Espresso Machine, Art, and Heirloom: Strietman CT2 Review

[@wretchedpkmn]

"Quick heat up, thermally stable, high forgiveness, small footprint, high quality, easy to repair, and absolutely stunning" Lance you can't keep praising yourself like this

[@LanceHedrick]

I mean, I'm quite a catch.

[@pierrex3226]

@@LanceHedrick You are. And if you start CrossFit, you'll break the internet.

[@dragonflykat]

@@pierrex3226 Hes fine the way he is.

[@magnumxlpi]

​@pierrex3226 Crossfit? LOL remember when they let the guy die this year? How about all the dumb exercises that are an orthopedic surgeons' wet dream?

[@Featherheads918]

I bought one of these a couple years ago and paired it with an HG-1 Prime hand grinder. Consistently great espresso and I 😊regularly get complements on the beauty of the machine. When not in use, it lives on a side table in my DR and people think I am showcasing an antique.

[@gpapa31]

You’re so spot on about lever espresso machines. I’ve been using them since the beginning of my coffee journey (minus the gloomy Nespresso pod years) and I can’t see me going to a pump machine unless I develop mobility issues. I’ve tried a few (including spring levers) and I always go back to direct. I love the connection I have to the process. On top I enjoy their simplicity, very low operational noise and low maintenance. And without advocating for superiority (because at this level it’s subjective), strangely enough the best espresso shots I have had - I’d say a good 80% - have come from levers. So Lever person for life 🙌

[@thebass0tard]

Wonder where 80% come from, when you use only lever machines 😅 Sorry for that

[@tammasus]

Hey! What lever machine do you use??

[@TF.520]

Agreed!

[@gpapa31]

@@tammasus Cafelat Robot and La Pavoni Esperto Abile. And frankly I don’t see myself getting anything else. I’ll be happy to have them till the very end and pass them down to the next gen. Only thing I am investing (upgrading) is grinder.

[@tammasus]

@@gpapa31 thanks!

[@danielkraus6613]

Been using my CT2 now for about 10 months. Owned a few other machines in the past. It will never leave my possession. The build, quality of materials, ease of use, silentness, and minimal maintenance all combine to make it a joy to use and look at. It will always have a place on my counter.

[@kanzakruzer7775]

I’ve had my CT2 for 8 months and love it.

[@FatNorthernBigot]

This beautiful machine will go well with my top hat and monocle. 🧐

[@ericpmoss]

It is so flexible, it also works with pirate hats and Viking helmets.

[@FatNorthernBigot]

@@ericpmoss 🤣 Stylish!

[@AnotherAyushRaj]

and a Bripe

[@TysonStole]

Long time coffee/espresso drinker, but have only been getting "nerdy" about it for the last few years; first by James, which I believe is how I came across your channel a while back (watch Morgans now as well). There have been plenty of machines I've learned though you that I've enjoyed, but I think this is the first I've been really jazzed about. Like you said, expensive, but for something that could last to the point of being passed down, worth it in the long run. I consider myself a minimalist and tend not to purchase things until I'm really ready to settle on a single thing long term. Me thinks this could be a winner in that department. As always, thanks for the thorough review. Love your energy and the way you present information in your videos.

[@Grigory108]

Have you considered La Pavoni Europiccola? Ultrareliable, to be passed in generations... But 3 times cheaper. And less hassle for warmup.

[@LanceHedrick]

Less hassle? Not true. Lol This is faster and more consistent. And I enjoy my la pav(s) a lot.

[@Grigory108]

yes, you are right, I am not correct about amount of hassle: 1) easier lever is slightly more convenient 2) PID temperature makes learning curve of easier by a lot In comparison I liked in La Pavoni: 1) even the smallest boiler can hold enough water for several shots. One refill for several shots. 2) integrated steamer What is your preheat times of La Pavoni? Mine are ~5-7' - comparable or faster (La Pavoni is notoriously hard to make consistent shots)

[@LanceHedrick]

@Grigory108 this one can pull several with one fill. And there is no temp surfing. That time is right to get the boiler to boiling but not long enough even with dry pumps to fully prime the machine, if you've ever measured with probes.

[@kg-Whatthehelliseventhat]

Good for you. You already know how important a really good grinder is. Also great water makes a huge difference when brewing. Please come back and give us an update if you do buy this unit. Best wishes. 😊

[@TheLever]

Completely agree, the CT2 is a wonderful machine and really appreciated that you also spoke about the background of this machine and the studying of the vintage models that led to this design. The only note I have is that is thermostat controlled and not PID controlled as you say, I'm quite sure it didn't change as I know Wouter has some quite strong opinions on PID's.

[@LanceHedrick]

Correct. It is thermostat.

[@YoYoD4]

Yup

[@m4tth3wh]

Always love the simplicity of manual lever devices that have less chance of things breaking, produce an amazing result and give you a little fun and joy in your day each time you use them. 🥰

[@ashish_ramnani]

Hey Lance. This is unrelated to the video but just wanted to say thank you for getting me started on my espresso journey. This whole time I thought that espresso required substantial investment. Thanks to you, I realised that a picopresso and a timemore c2 grinder would do the job. I made my first espresso today and it was absolutely fantastic. Thanks for your dialing in and latte art tutorials. You're a gem ❤

[@chrisc9960]

I’ve been looking into this machine since you posted the video. I finally bit the bullet and purchased one today. I can’t wait to get my hands on it. Thanks

[@robinvanderspek]

After a couple of years of not being into coffee that much, i mis the ritual and taste of making coffee with a good espresso machine. I purchased a good grinder and now waiting for my new espresso machine to be delivered. While on my holiday found your channel and watching all of the content you’ve made! Incredible how every aspect of coffee making is explained in great detail! Thank you for all your hard work and i will keep following your channel! Greetings from the Netherlands!

[@DamirZrno]

I wanted to buy this for over a year, but had to wait for lance his review! Fucking love it

[@markhicks5569]

Honestly this was my first and now my end game machine. Totally agree it is hard to pull a bad shot. Complete control. It makes the most delicious espresso. I pair it with the Kafatek mc6. Very rewarding to use and enjoy. Wouter is a genius if you ask me. Thank you a ton Lance for reviewing! There are very few videos out there on this gem.

[@nnemos]

I have one and love it. And enjoy it 2/3 times a deal. No PID, but a longer lasting thermocouple though. Heats up in 7m. I love prepping my baskets outside the portafilter, something that’s quite unique with this machine and I think you should explore. The tapping stamping etc without a bulky portafilter is great

[@rajindergill9480]

Been waiting for this! Pairs so well with a HG-1 grinder.

[@33phu55]

Excellent review. As a happy owner of a CT2 I absolutely agree with what you say. Just a note though, the distribution tool and the mesh baskets don’t come with the CT2, they are extras. Keep it up!

[@adambeatty8939]

Can you comment as to how pulling successive shots affects overall performance and workflow. If I need to pull say 4 shots, would a semi-auto be better suited? I really want to get into levers but I’ve been holding off to find the right fit. Thank you kindly

[@aelucsogard2153]

LOVE IT! Definitely ORDER ONE … The price is more than fair 🎉

[@roelservice]

Great review. I'm a long time Strietman CT1 owner and not as skilled as you are, so great to see that you are enthusiastic as well! Its a great machine and Wouter is a real artist

[@MBergyman]

I wish more machines were this simple.

[@zixzysm]

Fun seeing this. I got the ES3 when it was quite new, in 2014 IIRC. I believe it is, like, #6 or #7 of the ES3:s. Still working, using it every day. Modded it with Gabor's pressure meter + piston (they improved the original piston between ES3 and CT1 I think), got a stainless funnel, and that is about it. Makes lovely coffee. Lately I added the Argos, but TBH I almost only use it for milk drinks, the ES3 is easier to use for pulling espressos - and it only needs 15g compared to the Argos' 18g.

[@jalalelhayek2932]

My $.002 Super fun to see you discuss a machine I own! I’ve had this machine for a year or more. I agree if you’re careful with your coffee and puck prep it’s hard to make a bad shot. One thing that I love that I don’t think I was mentioned is that the machine is VERY quiet, almost silent. I previously had a pavoni (that I found when someone put out in the curb!) and then a decent and I can say this is a far more chill housemate to have. I really dislike the porta filter - from puck prep to locking in, I find it frustrating. As a shorter person I find the lever harder to pull than a pavoni, but maybe I’m grinding too fine. Finally I’ll say if you have any qualms about the aesthetic, those will be magnified in real life so make sure you like the way it looks. I also agree it’s pure craftsmanship and art, so if it does appeal to you, rest assured it’s simply the finest version of this type of machine that you could own, while also being very unique. Cheers.

[@TRDFanatic]

My first espresso machine was a direct lever, my last espresso machine will be a lever. Lever life! Great vid Lance!! Now to scrounge up $3K for the CT2…..

[@beecat4183]

Minimum about 2700 USD before import duties and fees, in case someone is looking. I'd love one, but that's a lot. With that clearance it needs an integrated scale option.

[@ShaneCopelin]

Art work is what I think of when I see this. SOO beautiful. Awesome hearing that it can make some incredible espresso.

[@ericpmoss]

I had a CT1, and one of my favorite aspects was its absolute silence. Paired with an HG-1 grinder, it was a lovely quiet experience. And wow were the shots beautiful.

[@robertmullins9639]

I really enjoyef seeing your excitement over this machine! All the best! ✌️

[@mackbooker8368]

IF…WHEN…I get into espresso, this would be the machine/tool/heirloom for me! Thanks for the introduction! Bravo! 👏👏👏

[@ElFlipo1337]

Would love the see a video comparing different lever machines ♥

[@Hionimi]

I love this a lot, also love that it's made in my home country, but my, 2300, this is really for the die-hard Espresso lover. Nice to hear though that it's very forgiving.

[@jamesfoxdavies]

Finally! I’ve been waiting for this. Zero gas since I bought this

[@tesilab994]

The drip tray design is stunning, and I love how it is secured to the base.

[@Drayzha]

Ironically I was just looking at these so Im glad you finally did a review on one🙏🏻

[@k2u364]

So happy to see this review ! I had my CT2 for a few years now and I couldn’t be happier ! The only thing I sometimes struggle with is the right grind size

[@RichardStroffolino]

If the Strietman is the porsche, my little europiccola is a Karmann Ghia. Really is a lovely machine, and I like the idea of machines created to last a life time. Thanks as always for a great video Lance!

[@Simply_CH23]

Last year Wouter (pronounced wow - ter) gave a demo of this machine at Sprout Coffee in the Netherlands, beautiful machine, I got to pull my own shot on it as well. Beautiful machine, pulls shots very nicely. If I ever tire of my La Pavoni, this might be the upgrade to get.

[@diganta2329]

Hand grinding & hand pulling Can’t beat that experience :)

[@dragonflykat]

This is so beautiful!

[@rkytr.2765]

Wow. It’s thing of beauty. I am very happy with my Lelit Bianca, but I am always thinking of getting a lever machine. Maybe this one.🤩

[@hamdanismail3668]

Excellent video, great machine

[@_Brewn]

I adore the Strietman! Some Time in the near future i will get one as my Pursit part on my bar just for its beauty

[@martinmanzi1830]

Have to say...I'm kinda jealous! So cool Lance, congrats

[@88sstraight]

Beauty, thanks Lance! I love my blue Robot, but I dream of brass and copper…

[@bungeoppang210]

No PID in there to my understanding. Awesome video 💪

[@LanceHedrick]

Yeah it's a thermostat. Whoops

[@jordaintan5951]

I own one! It uses a thermostat, not a PID! Great vid!

[@TomJones-tx7pb]

The motion of the water through the puck is vertical. The easiest way to visualize such things is to take the parameters to the extreme, where it is easy to see that the primary factor is the depth of the coffee. If the puck is almost of zero diameter then all the water flows past every grain of coffee and the pressure differential per unit of height is very low. If the puck is very wide then very little water flows past each grain of coffee and the pressure differential is very high. With a smaller diameter, you will have to grind coarser to prevent the extraction from "chocking". With a wider diameter you will have to grind finer to restrict the flow so that there is enough contact time between the water and the coffee to achieve extraction.

[@nathanshelby1446]

Thanks for the amazing review as always! Love your coffee videos. Thanks for sharing your passion for coffee with us!

[@TheMartinChnnl]

Great video Lance, but please please please, ALWAYS show us the crema inside the cup after pulling the shot!! We NEED to see it!

[@TheMartinChnnl]

Oh and BTW, I left you a message with an idea about YOU creating the PERFECT home espresso machine with a good team of people. I leave you here a few ideas of what it should have: - 49mm group-head and portafilter - Boiler + thermoblock (for brewing and steaming at the same time) - Boiler feeds input water from the thermoblock instead of cold from the water tank (to avoid temperature drop while brewing) - Boiler recirculation (like self-Heat-Exchanger) for better group temp stability - PID + Dimmer mod from factory (built in with fashionable looking knob like if it was a small hi-fi music equipment good-looking volume knob) - Pressure gauge (of course) - Easily upgradeable with kits for measuring brew pressure and brew temp - Adjustable from the outside OPV - PERFECT TEMPERATURE STABILITY - Small, compact and no more than 10kg (since the boiler feeds from the thermoblock, it doesn't need to have a big boiler) - Button to disable/bypass solenoid valve (for blooming shots) - Heavy portafilter (for temp stability) - Comes with naked portafilter - Easily upgradeable to ultra compact rotary pump (Micro-Vane rotary pump) or two versions of the product. - Super high pressure steam (maybe 2 thermoblocks? [one for heating and second one for drying steam]) - Having a way to pre-load the water-circuit with pressure for faster pressure-building of the shot (to emulate a rotary pump) - Maybe the "volume" knob which controls the pump and thus the pressure of the pump, prevents the need of an OPV valve.

[@gpapa31]

I second that. :)

[@LanceHedrick]

I don't pull darker roasts typically..there is very little crema on my coffees lol

[@TheMartinChnnl]

@@LanceHedrick did you happen to read my message about my idea of you creating a new perfect home espresso machine that is both relatively portable but at the same has an almost perfect temperature stability? We all need a machine that can really, really, really resemble the shots that a 5L-boiler-rotary-pump commercial machine can provide... and that at the same time is small enough to take on vacation! And I personally believe that the only person with the knowledge and the contacts to bring that machine to life is you.

[@RegrinderAlert]

@@TheMartinChnnlA commercial espresso machine with dead-flat temperature curve is nothing to be desired. I want repeatability, not stability. Never ever have encountered a coffee where a intentional temperature drop towards the end wasn’t a slight improvement.

[@rodebietjesmetspek]

absolutely lovely machine, great review.

[@Valspartame_Maelstrom]

the open boiler is so cool love it

[@simonw4304]

Nurri L, Vostock, Argos, now Strietman... this just gets harder to choose 😁

[@maurice_kenji]

I was kinda hoping you would love this one! Wouter Strietman builds his machines less than 30 miles from where I grew up. Next espresso machine I get (my pump machine has some years of service ahead of it yet) will be this one, or maybe whatever Wouter Strietman comes up with next. There’s nothing I don’t like about it.

[@AlbertWeijers]

This guy Wouter is living a few km's from me! His name Wouter is pronounced: Wow-ter, keep the second w short, wow as in "how".

[@markachternaam5207]

Or simpler even: it’s pronounced same as “outer”

[@elenna_alexia]

@@markachternaam5207 if you have a Dutch accent, yeah 😁 but yeah it's a reasonable approximation for most native English speakers.

[@NA26626]

Love your stuff! I'll never buy this but still enjoy the content

[@Kiaulen]

I definitely can't afford this one (still have my eye on that Ascaso because we do 100% milk drinks), but I might try that flair neo sometime. Thanks for the excellent review of a beautiful machine. ❤

[@JeepBigE]

Beautiful lever machine!

[@markburns84]

Yo man, great video as usual. Suggestion, you absolutely need to review that new Ninja Luxe premier espresso machine. Will it suck? Hmm, most likely, or who knows? But it's absolutely doing interesting stuff that's never been tried at it's price point and I know I'd be incredibly interested to hear your take. Keep up the good work man!

[@espressoarabic]

Questions! 1- can you fit 19g-20g coffee in one of those baskets? 2- did thr PID make a difference for you compared to flair pro2 ? I owned flair classic/pro2/F58, my best espresso is from pro2, unfortunately work routine was long enough to justify the F58 (upgrade). Interested in TASTE comparison with Flair pro2 AND the Vostok? Could you compare the shot taste?

[@mr_glasses]

wow... I want one. It's gorgeous.

[@darylfortney8081]

Beautiful machine... would be super cool if somehow the scale was built directly into the base with the display on the polished stainless stand underneath the drip tray to free space for larger cups and some manner of matching milk steamer. I'd probably buy one if that were the case... maybe CT3

[@mikni4069]

I always dreamt of that machine, seen it and it was a dream, but price kept me away from it… when I get tired of f58 I’ll get it.. Absolutely gorgeous looking and 49mm makes absolute fantastic espresso on all I tried…

[@TomJones-tx7pb]

It would not be hard for Flair to sell a part to reduce its 58x down to 49x.

[@mikni4069]

@@TomJones-tx7pb Probably not, but I doubt they do it as we are venturing well into niche territory here, it could also easily be fixed with a step down solution like through a portafilter or basket.

[@Saw90388]

That's it you convinced me!😭💸

[@KeithDins]

This looks great. Last month or so I'm not enjoying Lattes anymore. I was going to get the new Decent machine coming out and now questioning if I need a machine like that for espresso only if I go that direction.

[@zetaxman]

Love mine also...good pulicity for Wouter here. Cheers

[@eliosanchez1828]

How would you compare this machine to a Flair 58? That works similar way by direct flow in the handle. My only difference I could think that this machine would be obviously more temp stable. But if you could share your thoughts on that I would appreciate it!

[@BC_CARS]

I finally got my pre order XBloom. Honestly pretty rough experience getting it, but 2 days into using it and I love it. The coffee xpods I got with it taste great. I even got some grisini geisha columbian coffee and wow.. that shit got me wired all night

[@philindeblanc]

THAT is a sweet machine! Love the metals used. I wonder what FLair could come up with for a higher end lever machine....I think a good price point to target would be under $500 for Flair. Wont be as nice as this...Look at that drip tray...And I bet Strietman can lower that drip tray.

[@hui80]

Please note: the uniterra nomad has also a 49.5mm basket! 🎉

[@ALEXANDER090264]

And now I need one

[@DanFlynn]

This is beautiful, wish the Meticulous espresso had the option for smaller baskets

[@doctordonutdude]

I think the main stigma against smaller basket sizes comes from the fact that, by en large, the smaller the basket, the cheaper the machine. A glance through the Amazon catalog will show a direct correlation. Additionally, a bigger basket (generally) lets you make more espresso. Of course, once you get passed 50 mm, that stops being as true, but if you're trying to upgrade from only pulling single shots, bigger lets you make more espresso.

[@kennychio416]

Thank you very much Lance as your video show me a clear picture that this type of manual lever machine 100% fit my life style. Appreciated deeply for your indepth explaination and would like to ask if possible could share us the link that we could buy the valve plungers (pressure display similar to the flair 58) compatible to CT2?

[@adammurphy188]

Love the CT2 praise. I’ll love this machine for life. Any chance you could share where you got the purple cup from? Love the look.

[@fscottqc]

So speaking of lever-action, manual espresso machines and aspect ratios… what are your thoughts these days on the Flair devices, specifically NOT the Flair 58, but the normal one up through the pro series. They have a much smaller diameter and deeper baskets than most of these espresso machines you’ve been reviewing lately. I have an original Flair that I have been getting REALLY good espressos from, but I’m not a barista and don’t have much of a benchmark. I only have my experiences, KZbin channels, and chemistry background. Thanks!!

[@braxtonjens7839]

Dude, this has been a dream machine since I’ve seen it on HB years ago. But I have a LP I got from a garage sale for $30 (usd) and it needed to be refurbished. I don’t know if I’ll ever get arid of it. But I still dream of a Streitman

[@AshrafAbdu]

I encourage you to refurb your LP sad to see it not in use. It should be relatively easy to refurb, good luck and like Nike ads says Just do it!

[@shatty56]

Take it with an anecdotal grain of salt, however, I'm convinced that aiming for resistance feel rather than bar with my robot results in more consistently tasty results. Same coffee, same grind size, boiled kettle. Some days 7.5bar peak, sometimes 9 bar peak, similar feel. Tasty shots each time, not always identical flavour yet I suspect a 7 bar well made shot beats a channelled or squirty 8.5 (chasing 9 peak) bar shot every time. Not sure I'd have learned that without a pressure gauge. However, now I no longer care the gauge doesn't face upwards.

[@plantex625]

As another Robot user Ive been trending the same way despite my strong desire to control and measure everything. At first I was trying hard to standardize pressure, time, etc on a spreadsheet but now Im slowly heading to a place where I go off "feel" and the look of the stream coming out. On the one hand its cool to have it be more art than science, but on the other hand Im strongly craving something like a Decent

[@TomJones-tx7pb]

That variation comes from subtle but real variances in the puck prep. I agree with your approach, especially that things tend to go more wrong if you take the pressure too high for the puck you are working with. This is also the reason I have a hard time thinking I would like a machine where you pre-program its pressure profile.

[@thamtham4924]

You are right, you need to use one machine with gauge so you don’t need it on another one. I have gauge on Pavoni and it help a ton on my learning.

[@matz4k]

What a beautiful machine, looks more like a piece of art than a coffee maker. That tamping though, look really uncomfortable. Wondering what the reasoning behind the outside locking on the portafiler is, because it feels just wrong :D

[@leon_wolke]

What do you think of oldschool single shot baskets? I immediately thought about them after the last video.

[@MorrisGruiters]

Very nice review Lance. How would you say this compares to the Bezzera Strega if one likes dark, smooth, creamy, chocolaty espresso shots?

[@BonsaiClubRO]

How does it compare to a flair neo/58? Is it a substantial difference in taste quality or just something marginally better (diminishing returns) ? Asking because it is in limited availability and it is hard for regular consumers to do a taste comparison between them.

[@mikicourt5339]

Lance… would you choose this machine over the Argos?

[@contemporaryartist6542]

It’s magnificent

[@andreasuardi8485]

Hi lance , ct2 or cremina ?

[@barista.dennis.dautel]

Why isn't there a basket out there yet for a 58mm portafilter to 49mm? There are so many types of singleshot baskets, such as the one from La Marzocco, but no one has yet come up with the idea of ​​designing a basket that is deep enough so that you can get a 14g shot on a 49mm diameter with a 58mm portafilter. @Lance: do you perhaps have the contacts to get this started? It would be really interesting to emulate a Strietmann espresso in conjunction with a Sanremo You or Decent, for example. best regards, and thanks for this great video again! Dennis

[@m.brechi2861]

Lance, have you compared the ims competition super fine mesh filter basket to the normal IMS and the Sworks basket for light roasted beans?

[@Pentaprysm]

Can confirm that the shots are VERY tasty!

[@danymeeuwissen5973]

I totally get why there's no pressure gauge. When I use my 58 with the SEP app, I'm mostly watching the flow rate reading from the scale and not the pressure.

[@magnushaugen7854]

Beautiful machine. Looks like quite a few of the ideas for the Meticulous might have come from this?

[@WushuTaz]

Thanks for the detailed review. Will you be doing a video on that vintage Faema lever in the background that always distracts me during your videos?

[@karlmansson8319]

What is that beautiful machine in the background? The large lever machine.

[@sympathetic_crustacean]

It's a vintage Faema. Not sure what the model name is.

[@TheLever]

It's a single group Faema Marte

[@karlmansson8319]

@@TheLever Thank you! It is absolutely beautiful.

[@craigjones5060]

Beautiful machines, no argument. Aspirational iin fact. Beyond my pay scale but I do have an Elektra MCAL which i I love far more than my Leliit Mara X. B oth great but for different reasons. Totally concur with your findings on the espresso from the 49mm baskets Had a Flaiir Classic for travel and and good results but the MCAL ia another level up on it

[@omarhani]

It would be really cool if the machine could slide up and down the bars with locking points so you could have it could be adjusted to whatever hight is needed.

[@miin108]

The creator mentioned that it is not possible from his experimentation as this will affect the current stability of the machine. Hence why the current design has little space between drip tray and pf. Making it able to move upward to give more space toppled the machine upon pulling tbe lever such as the europiccola where pulling shots requires your other hand to hold the machine a bit in order for it to not topple upin pulling the lever

[@adambeatty8939]

How is it at pulling successive shots, say 4-5 in a row?

[@michaelnoyes5557]

so nice!

[@nodusk]

I WANT ONE. Fine, I'll buy one.

[@Panos3412]

Hi Lance! How would you compare it with Odyssey Argos direct espresso machine?

[@isfiyiywafibc6qaiiiiiiiiii570]

It doesn't have a PID, it has a simpler bang-bang temperature controller.

[@rustybridges1641]

sheeeeesh that is a pretty machine

[@Jahloveipraise]

I was about to pre order the step down basket, do you think I should do standard flow or high flow? I have no idea lol I use wafo spirit for 58mm but not sure how this would play in 49 lol

[@Horologiist]

How long does it take to reduce temp by lets say 2° between two shots?