Analytic Idealism Explained

Part 4 of Essentia Foundation's and Keytoe Academy's joint course on analytic idealism and its implications.

[@surrendertoflow78]

“Brain activity is the image of the phenomenon, not the generator…” I’m trained as a neuroscientist and i whole-heartedly agree with this statement. 👏🏻

[@mikekleinman6275]

enlighten this, most are materialists

[@reydg432]

And yet our bodies do emit wave fields that coexist with the universal feedback loops, right? If that's the case then, could it be that the universe is dismissive of our wave field? Are we sure enough that we've already mapped out the complete spectrum of the dynamic feedback loops of this reality? Or is the human-based POV a fraction of the universal mind? Are we a fraction of the intermixing of "nothing" and "something" that are both full of energy? (Casimir Effect)

[@bertanelson8062]

Yet we experience our ability to affect matter. This may not be "brain" doing this but the field we emanate. Our field could be emotions & thoughts creating wave patterns intertwined with wave patterns of the perceived phenomenon. Brain may have little more to do than be an interpreter of information senses bring to it.

[@CFChristian]

​@@bertanelson8062 Such as a filter? I ask bc Bernardo gave an answer to this a few years ago on the TOE podcast. Disregard if I misunderstood.

[@slowdown7276]

You are a nincompoop neuroscientist then.

[@sonia-lu2rn]

Im beginning to grasp the concept and it makes sense in a profound and far reaching way. Thanks for your content and interviews. They bring me peace and perspective.

[@desertportal353]

Bernardo, you have written such helpful books outlining with clarity such as Schopenhauer, Jung and others who are otherwise impenetrable for such as me. I really wish you might do the same with the work and words of Frederico Faggin. Many thanks for all that you do.

[@EarthMan1932]

To be very honest these concepts are exactly same as my meditative experiences. Thanks Bernado for confirming that using science. 👍

[@leandrosilvagoncalves1939]

Thank you for posting!

[@michaelbarker6460]

This is all incredibly fascinating and I'm glad I found your content. I wish I could talk to you because I have so many questions. Just long story short I don't have any academic qualifications, in fact I do manual labor as an arborist, but for whatever reason I've had a strong interest in philosophy for many years (I'm 31 now, still young and learning) I would never pretend to be an expert in any of it but I feel like I have a decent grasp on certain topics. I just try to always be critical of what I believe and figure out what's wrong with my ideas more than anything else. A few years ago I started experimenting with psychadelics and realized the potential for understanding some philosophical concepts a bit better while tripping and afterwards. Obviously you just can't go around telling people this because you're then disqualified as not having anything useful to say. So I've kept it to myself but have used the knowledge I've gained to further my exploration into philosophy. A few months ago I took the biggest dose I've ever taken. Far more than the "heroic dose". Of course there's a lot to say about that but the thing that might be the most interesting to someone like you is sometime after the trip when I was investigating a few ideas I realized I suddenly gained the ability to understand, at least to a degree, Idealist philosophers like Schopenhauer, Hegel, much more of Kant and others including your work and also even old religious texts. All I know is that this stuff was totally impenetrable to me before my big trip. I only knew about Hegel because of the joke that you aren't actually supposed to read Hegel but only what other people write about Hegel then checking out a little bit of it myself and not understanding anything But now here I am and at the very least I have convinced myself I understand people like Hegel and other idealists far better than I could before. But I'm also assuming it has something to do with my trip where in part I had the experience of being or appearing as a point of consciousness or experience or spirit above a "formless void" then willing the world into existence concept by concept. Even the most basic concepts like this and that, here and there, light and darkness, day and night, one and many, space and change, motion and time. Creating objects giving them names and counting them. Identifying with self and other. It seems that unironically the creation as told in Genesis 1 is a far more accurate description of how man came to be through the lens of mind or experience than anything that I've seen elsewhere. It would make sense it's told the way it is and has lasted this long if many other people have had a strong enough psychadelic experience where they will the world into existence eventually waking up as Adam in a garden. Obviously it's just speculation but it also makes you wonder what other story could those long ago possibly have told if the only concepts they had to work with were space, motion, self, other, and nature. So we got Adam, Eve, the garden, doing and desire. Perhaps the first event or conflict could be about the apperance in consciousness a threat to survival creates. It looks like a "snake", feels like "fear" and wills you to "act" More concepts. Then they don't just get kicked out of the garden they will themselves out by conceiving of it as a different place entirely. It's the world of man where a serpent is always hiding under a bush or a bed out of sight disguised as the experience of anxiety and fear. How do we rid ourselves of that experience of the serpent or Satan or sin , how do we get back to the innocent garden or heaven where the serpent isnt allowed and we feel at peace? Do we make more concepts which we stack one on top of the other creating an enormous Tower of Babbel that's now today bigger than its ever been? Can we build our way back to God with more complicated things and ideas? Or do we do the opposite and start deconstructing those concepts and dismantling the tower. Strangely the words of Christ when viewed from this lens don't seem like such a bad idea. "Lay not up for yourselves treasures upon earth, where moth and rust doth corrupt, and where thieves break through and steal:" "But lay up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where neither moth nor rust doth corrupt, and where thieves do not break through nor steal:" And thats just a tiny part of the Bible. In other ancient texts and scriptures we see similar things because they were simply describing the world as it had been willed by their experience at that point in time using the only concepts they had which was all that existed. That was reality. It's still down there exactly as it was acting as the foundation that we've built upon. After my trip I first noticed things like that started making a lot of sense then thought maybe I had gone crazy but eventually came across the idealists again like I mentioned and realized they were talking about the same thing. The world as mind, will, experience, representation. Honestly I have so much to say and so many questions to ask that I would love to get your response and any resources that you think could help someone like me. Also let me know if this is even something that at all interests you or if you think I'm getting things horribly wrong. It just makes so much sense to me and the more I think about it the more I realize how important it is that others start thinking about it as well.

[@luismoref]

Very interesting, have you read or watched Rupert spira? That's how I found Bernardo.. I think you would like.

[@ThingODoom]

Lovely post

[@TrevHassy]

Late to the party, but this is awesome to read through. Reminds me of Dr Hugh Ross breaking down the creation account in Genesis from a Physicist’s perspective, but reading in ancient Hebrew. Once you throw out dogma and stop getting in the weeds of modern translation, it makes far more sense.

[@SolaceEasy]

WTL;DR & feeling pity that you aren't feeling seen. Merge again with the impersonal. Don't need to buy no tickets. Go anytime.

[@pepedestroyer5974]

*2:03* The position of analytical idealism *2:57* The stuff measured by our sense organs *3:27* importante question how do we make sense of the fact if everything is mental? *4:12* Dissotiation *7:05* What happens to the mind of nature under dissotiation *9:11* Brain activity is the image of the phenomenom, not the generator. *9:16* And of course the image correlates very well most of the times with the phenomenom it is an image of. *9:30* Because what the phenomenom looks like correlates with the phenomenom. *9:37* why measurement does not tell us the complete story? *10:31* For instance *12:54* Importante *14:40* Are you sure Bernardo? *17:47* Materialist assumptions of Physicalists.

[@hydrorix1]

As brain activity reduces, you become more aware. Taken to its logical conclusion, when brain function ceases --i.e., you're dead--consciousness expands and NDEs show that. The brain is a Perception In Consciousness.

[@jamesmercer8442]

Excellent phonomenolgical observations. But, can you provide a video that hightlights the insigths of Merleau-Ponty. And, how about an online debate or discussion with some of the materialist physicists--Suskind and Penfield--with yourself and others in your camp. Bring the discussion into a clear spectral light, that allows us to peer through the lens of 'deep reflection on the topics' addressed. Thanks! Cheers

[@taonow369]

I think the reason we can describe the same room in a similar fashion is because we have been both have the same mental idea about the room through conditioning and the fitness pay off theory of Don Hoffman The description of the idea of the room from a African Tutsi warrior may be vastly different The idea that the mental production is individual is accurate in that it can be inferred a collective cultural idea or mental societal biological system

[@iscottke]

Very helpful 😊

[@danielarel5061]

Great stuff! thanks! So if dissociation usually happens as result of trauma, where the mind cant handle the situation and so fragments, and if we are the dissociated parts of the general mind of nature (God?), what happend to this great mind? did Nature/God had a truma, and so divded itself into many alters/souls?

[@alanmcbride6658]

God - that or whom from which everything emanates - expands into infinite selves for his own pleasure, as a past time.

[@RaeRaesRaveReviews]

no joke... i sliced my foot open when i was 12 and didnt notice. It didnt hurt until I saw the puddle of blood on the floor and realized it was coming from my foot. Suddenly it was extremely painful. I ended up with stitches.

[@user-pb3lh3vx4k]

Thank you very much for your very clear presentation. Please, I need your help in order to understand how "our sense organs (physical)) can mesure some stuff which is mental". Thanks a lot and congratulations for all your work.

[@AtypicalPaul]

Very fascinating

[@JaseboMonkeyRex]

His radical humility makes me want to believe him...

[@frankjspencejr]

As you point out, all that we have access to are first person experiences, so nothing beyond that can be assumed, especially if it’s logically inconsistent. No actual defined self, no actual external world, no others can be assumed.

[@mikefaff-livingintheillusi9636]

0:46 video time. Let’s start from the beginning. There is an objective world out there beyond our individual Minds that is self-evident. If you were where I am right now, you would describe the building where I am in a way very consistent with my own description of it… Mike: Anytime I hear the term “self-evident,” it is time to start questioning the premise. We would have commonly held beliefs if you and I were raised in the same culture, country, religious persuasion, educational system, etc. Beliefs are correlated into a complete belief system. Therefore, when I observe your building where you are, I will render it much the same as you do. My rendering is an inside construction and has nothing to do with the outside energy system. Once rendered in the mind, the conscious part of the mind projects that inside construction onto the outside energy system, and on a conscious level, you and I will believe there is an objective world. What you think of as an outside objective world is an inside rendering based on your belief system of input information from your senses. However, if you and an Amazon tribesman from deep in the Amazon looked at your building, I am not sure you and he would see the same building. You and I are programmed to see the same building. Nothing exists until you render it. Nothing exists until you measure it. There is no outside consistent world. The only world there is your inside-rendered world, and when you are not rendering that world, it is only energy, and there is no outside world. We live in a rendered world of our own making. It is an illusion, of course. Peace Mike

[@moonchildmari]

I am interested in that study discussed at 5:05 about that woman's brain scans when experiencing different alters due to having dissociative identity disorder. if anyone has a link to the study or knows where this study has been referenced I would love to see it.

[@frankjspencejr]

How are thoughts, which occur to a subject, and are therefore essentially input to that subject, transmitted away from the subject to other subjects?

[@artdadamo3501]

In reference to reduced brain activity at about 13:00. "“To make biological survival possible, Mind at Large has to be funnelled through the reducing valve of the brain and nervous system. What comes out at the other end is a measly trickle of the kind of consciousness which will help us to stay alive on the surface of this particular planet." ― Aldous Huxley, The Doors of Perception / Heaven and Hell

[@melancholicat3132]

How is this diferent from the kantian point of view?

[@slowdown7276]

How does analytic idealism explain anesthestic effect on brain lowering awareness/consciousness?

[@TheExceptionalState]

Transpersonal mental processes - a modern term for beings of the hierarchies which can affect thinking, feeling and willing.

[@gireeshneroth7127]

The mind is living the lies that it beholds of consciousness.

[@SolaceEasy]

Folks with Dissociative Identity Disorder can be effective enough in this world. Just doing their own life experience. Sister of one of my closest friend has DID. Lives independently and usually successfully.

[@SolaceEasy]

Please don't "fix" alternatively wired people. Aid effectiveness.

[@AtypicalPaul]

So do you think it could be possible that a human could re associate to a point they could re connect to that which is outside of their direct experience?

[@TheTastyPancake]

I think that's what happens in psychedelics and meditation. People experience things that are not from this world or their normal "human" perspective.

[@joshuabaehr44]

I think I find this theory unintuitive because of its language, not its actual claim. Saying the universe is mentation gives the sense that the same quality of mind I experience as a person, though transpersonal, is analogous to that of the Universe. This suggests a kind of subjective sense embodied throughout the cosmos. This seems anthropomorphic to me. I do think that the subjective and objective of the cosmos is of the same quality, though in different states. Something akin to form is emptiness and emptiness is form. Perhaps this is the same thing you're saying?

[@frankjspencejr]

0:54 “there is an objective world out there beyond our individual minds, it is self evident” how so?

[@peznino1]

Pretty out there hypothesis...i think the Spagehtti one is more plausible

[@Michael-el]

Sometimes I wonder whether “mind” is the right word. Most people probably think of the human mind. Plotinus et al spoke of the “One” but I’ve heard they thought even that was saying too much.

[@reydg432]

Maybe this reality is just a mind that has a more stable Physics versus our baby human minds that are meant to act as little minds meant to intentionally deprive ourself of our eternal omnipotent nature, while slowly regaining it through the process of entropy which is a form of energy transmutation back to what we were originally, an all-encompassing mind.

[@elaninoiu2925]

What I don't understand, then, is who is/what is this "I", or "us", in this all around transpersonal mental existence

[@unknowntexan4570]

There isn't a flying spaghetti monster because this idea is conglomerate of imminent mental ideas. Transcendent mind, however, may have good reasons for believing in.

[@taonow369]

The mental processes of the all does not include us ? I offer it must to describe it as the all - whatever it is - god the Tao consciousness- is a total definitely a singularity beyond our pay grade

[@patbaptiste9510]

Every-thing is consciousness. Finally this message is begining to spread like rings in the water throughout this *Reality Simulator* which so-called humans call a planet...

[@Ivuspp]

O universo é feito de processos mentais transpessoais

[@okruzni838]

"There is no spoon"

[@pepedestroyer5974]

*0:30* *0:40* *0:47* um, let's start from the beggining

[@pepedestroyer5974]

*13:43* *14:06*

[@innerlight617]

17.23: "..Am i sure about it?No i am a monkey, i can't be sure about it,but i live as though analytic idealism is true...." So do i..😊

[@gabrieltopan9315]

is it not matter , love , life , mind , chemie , fisics , will , pasion , kindnes truth , lies etc?

[@bernardofitzpatrick5403]

They matter and are an essential part of the dashboard of life. The dashboard of life is not trivial . . Or is it negated, just given it’s rightful place. The plane flies by its instruments without the pilot actually seeing or sensing the outside weather.

[@jamesfulmer7080]

Did I just hear a SOUTH PARK reference?

[@fun_at_work]

*Opens debate* Ok folks, we are a disease process caused by trauma. Universe got r*ped, yo.

[@enomikebu3503]

He starts with a axiomatic “the world is not material “ which is a bold conjecture and mistaken because his theory is that the world is all ‘mental’.

[@TheTastyPancake]

This is a video series. The episode before this one was called "Why materialism is baloney" and this was continued from that. So he had already established why the world is not material. That was explained in the previous video.

[@soniahazy4880]

🌈🧩💎🛸🪷🙏

[@billygugen8104]

There is a flying spaghetti monster. His name is Sal.

[@gendashwhy]

Sal plays "The Choking Game" well... Limp noodles happen.

[@tomatoversace3427]

My name is Sal.

[@frankjspencejr]

If you can just declare that it’s intuitively obvious that there’s an external world, then materialists can argue that it’s intuitively obvious that there is a material world.

[@SolaceEasy]

Strict materialists contest intuition.

[@MichaelJones-ek3vx]

I just watched a very poor critique of analytic idealism. People make criticism for understanding the evidence and structural logic of it.