Can you hear the difference between a cheap and expensive violin bow?

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Esther Abrami

Esther Abrami

Күн бұрын

Пікірлер: 6 000
@estherabrami
@estherabrami 6 жыл бұрын
The name of the piece I am playing is Monti Czardas, here's the link to buy the sheet music: amzn.to/2tngQ3W My Violin Recommendations: For beginner to Intermediate, Stentor Student 2: amzn.to/2IAHsVF For Intermediate to advanced, Violin Stentor Conservatoire II: amzn.to/2ZrPDc8
@gigachu9295
@gigachu9295 6 жыл бұрын
@Esther Abrami You're adorable!!! I just want to grab your little face and give you a big wet kiss!
@miguelmunoz5075
@miguelmunoz5075 6 жыл бұрын
Esther Abrami I'm sorry but can't really tell the difference😭😥😪😢👍👌😜
@dae-dae124love2
@dae-dae124love2 6 жыл бұрын
Esther Abrami no D difference
@bemeanerwithfeloniousdemeanor
@bemeanerwithfeloniousdemeanor 6 жыл бұрын
The last bow, in the last segment of the closing of the video had a much brighter sound than the other ones, it had a crisp sharp bite to it, it actually kind of bugged my ear (one is highly sensitive to sound, I'm part cat after all.)
@АлександрМилославский-ъ9н
@АлександрМилославский-ъ9н 6 жыл бұрын
Дорогая лучше всех
@Visci1000
@Visci1000 4 жыл бұрын
the difference for me ; 500 dollars bow will let me play a good music in my house at the night with my wife and 2 lovely kids watching me. 160.000 dollars bow will let me play a good music on the street homeless alone, after my wife and kids left me.
@ilariacataldi6111
@ilariacataldi6111 4 жыл бұрын
🤣
@krishiyer3990
@krishiyer3990 4 жыл бұрын
😂🥴😜
@ohraider
@ohraider 4 жыл бұрын
Stop, it’ll be worth it
@ladypink8520
@ladypink8520 4 жыл бұрын
Hahahhahaha true fact
@1RajatS
@1RajatS 4 жыл бұрын
Is it 160 thousand dollar bow who would afford it????
@yukiousuzumi2595
@yukiousuzumi2595 5 жыл бұрын
I can make the $160,000 bow sound like $5.
@gabrielatorres6288
@gabrielatorres6288 5 жыл бұрын
me too
@fableemasters
@fableemasters 5 жыл бұрын
Me too! 😂
@phoebem
@phoebem 5 жыл бұрын
me too!
@brycewilson1696
@brycewilson1696 5 жыл бұрын
Same
@fluffball1296
@fluffball1296 5 жыл бұрын
lol same!
@nigelnightmare4160
@nigelnightmare4160 5 жыл бұрын
To me the 90,000 bow sounded more soft/mellow than any of the others(which I prefer) but the 160,000 really did sound raw/clear sharp and crisp.
@onlyjjongich0804
@onlyjjongich0804 5 жыл бұрын
Yes, I do have a similar thought with you
@carlsethna8219
@carlsethna8219 5 жыл бұрын
I agree....40K and 90K were better than 160K
@marcossp6258
@marcossp6258 5 жыл бұрын
@@carlsethna8219 I had the same impressions.
@ramonsanchez5411
@ramonsanchez5411 5 жыл бұрын
Same with your observation. In addition, its sound quality would correspond to location/occation - to - location occation basis.
@superfluityme
@superfluityme 5 жыл бұрын
I thought the same; and when she played the $160,000 bow fast it actually hurt and I had to turn down the volume.
@SuzetteLDay
@SuzetteLDay 2 жыл бұрын
To be honest, after watching (and listening) to this video 5 times, I feel the $90,000 bow sounded the best. It was crisp yet soft and melodic. The most expensive one sounded rather harsh and scratchy to me. I think your music is wonderful and when I'm down it always brings me up again. Thank you! Oh! And I'm a cat lover, too!
@dagmarmitterboeck4575
@dagmarmitterboeck4575 9 ай бұрын
Je prefere l' archet 90.000 , qui est le mieux à mon opinion. Bien de choses de Dagmar de Vienne
@faraboverubieskerry
@faraboverubieskerry 2 ай бұрын
Exactly. I thought the same thing both times. Interesting how some of us prefer that
@involucionada
@involucionada 6 жыл бұрын
The cheapest bow is more expensive than my violin.
@Knallbart
@Knallbart 6 жыл бұрын
mine too! XD
@minyoungson8293
@minyoungson8293 6 жыл бұрын
Victoria K that’s unfortunate
@bany1688
@bany1688 6 жыл бұрын
Same hahaha! Bought mine for PHP2,300 which is just around $50 😹😹😹
@b00i00d
@b00i00d 6 жыл бұрын
haaaa haaaa just what I was thinking too!!!
@martinaaguirre5228
@martinaaguirre5228 6 жыл бұрын
Hanooian same jajajajaja
@eouzcuemarz3114
@eouzcuemarz3114 5 жыл бұрын
the difference that I just is heard is when you mentioned the price of each bows. 👏😁
@aprilcapina63
@aprilcapina63 5 жыл бұрын
Eouz Cuemarz 😂😂😂
@yousefyousef495
@yousefyousef495 5 жыл бұрын
Lol
@angelobarken4002
@angelobarken4002 5 жыл бұрын
The $90,000 bow was the best sounding to my ear, as it coaxed a rich sound from the violin, without the brazen volume of the most expensive bow at nearly twice the price. Though, if you were playing in the open wilderness of Asia, the volume produced by the $160,000 bow was unparalleled. .
@Macklyn3232
@Macklyn3232 2 жыл бұрын
Truth
@KimAhrina11
@KimAhrina11 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed
@greyhounds1433
@greyhounds1433 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed ( Time Stamp 1:07 2:20 )
@НиколайГеоргиевич-ю3д
@НиколайГеоргиевич-ю3д 2 жыл бұрын
Что с вами,она играет на одной скрипке.
@bor.7412
@bor.7412 2 жыл бұрын
@@НиколайГеоргиевич-ю3д речь идет о четырех разных смычках, один из которых стоит.......OMG 160 тысяч $
@johnhidalgo1575
@johnhidalgo1575 3 жыл бұрын
As a professional drummer I pledg I will never complain about the cost of sticks and brushes and heads again !!
@johnybrokeit
@johnybrokeit 3 жыл бұрын
LOL ...I feel ya, dawg! ...I was looking at buying the Roland V-Drums TD-30 that this gentleman named tony royster demos on youtube and i feel horrible to say i will need another year to be able to afford it, and here we are talking about ONE freakin BOW.. just the bow for 130k! Haha. Wow!
@FoxBonly
@FoxBonly 2 жыл бұрын
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA ............
@superhunk1989
@superhunk1989 6 жыл бұрын
Yes, I hear the differences super clearly. I don't know whether it's because of the quality of the bow or the way you play the violin. The expensive bow has a rawer, richer and more natural low tone at 1:22 - 1:35. The expensive bow has a clearer/cleaner high tone at 2:32 - 2:43. Like I said, it's possible that you fool us and play the violin with the same bow the whole time: this means, the way you play the violin causes the differences.
@GamesTDK
@GamesTDK 6 жыл бұрын
The real reason people can't hear it is because everything is compressed into youtube quality. That means all 3 were compressed by the same compression, so the dynamic range is much less after compression, less distinguishable.
@GamesTDK
@GamesTDK 5 жыл бұрын
@Sha ne Well considering we're taught that human hearing is from 0-20khz, but in reality human hearing is really from 20hz-18khz. By the time you're about 20, most people lose the top 2khz, and if you're in construction you may lose down to 15khz. Ultra low frequencies aren't audible, but you feel it. We design circuits typically for 0-20khz, with a 20db/dec roll off at 20khz are 0db. You might still hear 21khz, possibly, but 22khz might be too low that it becomes inaudible, sometimes depending on how fast or slow the rolloff is you'll get more frequencies out of it. If you're a software engineer whos designing an algorithm for maxim'um compression to save server space, or inversely to minimize data footprint, you'd design a brick wall filter in software that cuts off everything from probably 40hz-20khz, maybe 18khz if you believe majority of people can't hear 20khz. Then you do the dynamic range compression, because realistically computers and computer audio doesn't have the capacity to reproduce that kind of dynamic range anyways, so it doesn't matter. Therse two things you need to consider when thinking of this, the software and the hardware, and often times they don't communicate with each other. Hardware engineers design typical metrics, sometimes we cheap out and we build cheaper circuits that "work well enough". Software engineers mostly try to optimize the solution, in this case if you're a youtube employee you probably want to minimize data footprint. You design for whats practical. Any of those high end headphones and speakers that advertise something like 20hz-50khz, is mostly full of crap and just marketing. However, well designed drivers can produce more dynamic sound, so it does sound "better". They'll also probably produce a faster response, so going from 10khz to 15khz might take 20ns instead of 40ns. However frequencies is usually determined by the filter circuitry going in to the speakers, so unless they're active speakers or headphones, don't believe it. Even then, unless you're a dog you can't exactly hear above 20khz.
@procrastinartist2825
@procrastinartist2825 6 жыл бұрын
I dont care about the differences but Esther seems like a very polite girl and so kind
@sweetchildomusicians4621
@sweetchildomusicians4621 6 жыл бұрын
Jarod76 That’s what I tell myself. Yet here we are, two screw ups. Still going.
@DanieleDerelli
@DanieleDerelli 6 жыл бұрын
Probably the 160k is made with hair of angel and wood from the garden of Eden.
@AtikaRusy
@AtikaRusy 6 жыл бұрын
Daniele Derelli u just make my day 😁
@Aya-ef8on
@Aya-ef8on 6 жыл бұрын
Like a magician's wand.
@tabletunouno599
@tabletunouno599 6 жыл бұрын
when you play it all the virgin girls come to you
@leyshamarina1934
@leyshamarina1934 6 жыл бұрын
Daniele Derelli JAJAJAJAJAJAJAJAJA You made my night 😂
@monicamonca7430
@monicamonca7430 6 жыл бұрын
Daniele Derelli 😂
@rileybski
@rileybski 5 жыл бұрын
“the cheap one is $500” *stares at my $25 amazon bow*
@lotiiny2083
@lotiiny2083 5 жыл бұрын
My whole violin costs less than $200
@magicbusgb
@magicbusgb 5 жыл бұрын
My violin kit comprehensive of bag bow and violin costed 26 euros lol
@fluki1185
@fluki1185 5 жыл бұрын
Aww🥺
@rebecca1823
@rebecca1823 5 жыл бұрын
My whole violin + case + bow + electric tuner cost less than $100
@jerbear8672
@jerbear8672 5 жыл бұрын
i felt this comment too hard
@dawnie10
@dawnie10 5 жыл бұрын
*expensive bow vs. MORE EXPENSIVE BOW
@citer5574
@citer5574 5 жыл бұрын
I asked professionals what bows they use, most of them use 300-400 dollar bows.
@whojoe8227
@whojoe8227 5 жыл бұрын
@@citer5574 professionals dont use 400-500 dollar bows xD
@citer5574
@citer5574 5 жыл бұрын
@@whojoe8227 they do
@whojoe8227
@whojoe8227 5 жыл бұрын
@@citer5574 very few yes. But the majority not xD. I play violin and know lots , looots of professionals.
@moniquecastelli8058
@moniquecastelli8058 4 жыл бұрын
Lorraine de Castro LOL THATS WHAT I SAID
@galileofigaro4747
@galileofigaro4747 5 жыл бұрын
The “cheap” bow is five times more expensive than my whole violin, and same price of my digital piano😂
@ILikeBirds
@ILikeBirds 4 жыл бұрын
Galileo Figaro lol
@galileofigaro4747
@galileofigaro4747 4 жыл бұрын
I Like Birds 😂
@nikolatesla9337
@nikolatesla9337 4 жыл бұрын
Hahaha than sad dude hahah
@galileofigaro4747
@galileofigaro4747 4 жыл бұрын
Language Learner Ikr😂
@oliviapereira364
@oliviapereira364 3 жыл бұрын
Well, Bach, you should have thought about that before having that many kids...
@Sara_G23
@Sara_G23 4 жыл бұрын
the more it gets expensive it becomes smoother and the high notes get even more higher
@holo6883
@holo6883 4 жыл бұрын
When she moved from 90k to 160k, I felt that
@HugeGamma
@HugeGamma 3 жыл бұрын
Lol
@RichAtNaxos
@RichAtNaxos 6 жыл бұрын
For most of the people I know, $500 is an expensive bow.
@charlenepak7027
@charlenepak7027 6 жыл бұрын
Cheap bows are like $50 dollars!!!
@DerLiesl
@DerLiesl 6 жыл бұрын
$500 is a normal price for a student level bow. A professional bow is at least $2000.
@hellfeather2011
@hellfeather2011 6 жыл бұрын
For real
@rlynch2857
@rlynch2857 5 жыл бұрын
To get my bow rehaired it costs 200
@joelguillot1379
@joelguillot1379 5 жыл бұрын
amen!!!
@jeffharper410
@jeffharper410 5 жыл бұрын
The 90,000 bow was the best performer. The cheap bow was at times squeaky and thin sounding , when played slow the two most expensive had a smoothness to them but overall tone goes to the 90,000 dollar bow. I was surprised at the subtle differences.
@khushimishra7359
@khushimishra7359 5 жыл бұрын
Looks like u know a lot
@jeffharper410
@jeffharper410 5 жыл бұрын
@@khushimishra7359 I did once take violin lessons, but much more important is learning critical listening. It is hard to say if it is even the bow as having played before, so much can be just the slightest amount of pressure applied to the bow. Whether it is the $90,000 bow is more suited to her in weight and balance or she just applies the right amount of pressure to it? How much rosin was applied to all 3?We can't know. But listening carefully when she played using it , every note was just a little sweeter.
@roastertruck
@roastertruck 5 жыл бұрын
I agree. The 90,000 had solid deep tones.
@jeffharper410
@jeffharper410 5 жыл бұрын
Something I did not comment on before, the $160.000 dollar bow is louder and focuses best on the upper octives. In a large orchestra it would stand out more. I still think the $90.000 dollar bow digs deeper into the lower octives and sounds better for a soloist. I should comment on what I am listening to this on. I am streaming this into a custom stand alone tube DAC , Manley Labs amplifier and Tekton speakers all wired in pure silver and Teflon . So I can really hear into each bow. I do think she is bearing down harder on the $160.000 dollar bow than the other two. And this can account for the loudness .
@dreglanoth3320
@dreglanoth3320 5 жыл бұрын
500 and 160 000 is not a subtle difference ah musicians are as crazy as snake oil sellers
@ruiloureiro2557
@ruiloureiro2557 6 жыл бұрын
I am not a musician but I clearly notice the difference and I prefer the 90000$ the sound is more profund and round. the most expensive is too sharp as well as the less expensive.
@youssrairene9280
@youssrairene9280 6 жыл бұрын
Rui Loureiro same
@dendikurniawan8577
@dendikurniawan8577 5 жыл бұрын
*Q* :"Can you hear the difference?" *A* : well yes, but actually no
@woodybrison
@woodybrison 3 жыл бұрын
If you really really want a bow that sounds good, really really good, take 160 thousand dollars and give it to support an orphanage, soup kitchen, children's hospital, or the like; then buy a $10 bow and see how beautiful the Lord will make it sound.
@jordanguerrero1423
@jordanguerrero1423 3 жыл бұрын
@@woodybrison wtf lol
@ekeneduru8489
@ekeneduru8489 3 жыл бұрын
@@woodybrison WOW! Bless your soul.❤
@leavesofdistinction1679
@leavesofdistinction1679 3 жыл бұрын
I can hear the difference, but only because I played 1st chair violin for 2 years. That $500 bow was more than the $50 I was charged each month to rent the instrument and bow, from the school, with a case and rosin. This is why music programs are so important!
@samantharose4952
@samantharose4952 6 жыл бұрын
Yes! I can hear the difference. Especially with the faster piece, the mega expensive one is much more crisp and clean sounding.
@SimonStreuffViolinEducation
@SimonStreuffViolinEducation 6 жыл бұрын
its the audio...
@estherabrami
@estherabrami 6 жыл бұрын
Its always difficult when recording as of course the audio never sounds as it is in reality but when playing I personally felt the last bow was more 'crispy', the audio might have affected the volume in certain bits but I think the clarity has stayed true to the reality.
@Schwallex
@Schwallex 6 жыл бұрын
There was no faster piece. This is the same piece throughout. Jesus Christ.
@ayakakimura283
@ayakakimura283 6 жыл бұрын
Samantha Rose lol my whole violin set cost a total of 70$
@catrionamacdubh989
@catrionamacdubh989 6 жыл бұрын
Samantha Rose I totally agree...
@viktoriiafedorova
@viktoriiafedorova 6 жыл бұрын
Ofc there is the difference...there is actually a BIG difference in "color" of sound. That expencive one sounds really deep and rich not like opening old doors xD Keep up the good work. Ughhh i wish i had enought money to buy a new flute🎵 Have a nice day everyone ;)
@leibibi9806
@leibibi9806 6 жыл бұрын
160.000 Is cheap
@eduardovillalon7496
@eduardovillalon7496 5 жыл бұрын
Esther: “Did you perceived the differences between them?” Me: “Yes 😍” Esther: “Which one did you preferred?” Me: “Yes 😍”
@robertoa.m.3984
@robertoa.m.3984 4 жыл бұрын
Yes.....I am also in love with her.......😘😂😂😂😂
@dimarv1
@dimarv1 Жыл бұрын
Dr pajin
@oldconspiracydude236
@oldconspiracydude236 6 жыл бұрын
I can't afford a bow right now so I am just borrowing a horse's tail when he is sleeping
@sevanakrizan7393
@sevanakrizan7393 6 жыл бұрын
Old Conspiracy Dude your comment cracked me up
@chief45fuel76
@chief45fuel76 6 жыл бұрын
Lol
@SimilakChild
@SimilakChild 6 жыл бұрын
lolol
@jetscan2nl
@jetscan2nl 6 жыл бұрын
Probably the best comment over here :-))) Two thumbs up.
@enerpro2955
@enerpro2955 6 жыл бұрын
My horse never sleeps 🙁
@vapertrail6669
@vapertrail6669 6 жыл бұрын
I learned on a $20 bow and a $150 violin. Sending 40k on horse hair and a stick seams a little nuts to me. My last car was 38k and had leather seats, GPS, XM radio, and a warranty. For the price of that bow, I could have a new car, a violin w/ bow, and have enough left over to fly to Austria and see Paganini played buy masters in person.
@WhiteWulf0414
@WhiteWulf0414 6 жыл бұрын
Ray Stetler To become professional its necessary bro. Just like athletes spend 100k easily on trainers and gear and fitness over the years. You spend 100k to 200k to open a business easily. If you dont care about things like that and want to work a common job under a boss doing what your told. Should keep those opinions to yourself unless you are in similiar shoes. Damn man college can be just as expensive. She took a route she loves and she is happy. Pretty sure her career puts more then enough money on her table for her to afford. She probably got sponsors that helped her get started just like any talent. These instruments are so well constructed even someone such as you would probably not be able to make in a hundred years. Hand made no doubt with love and care.
@vapertrail6669
@vapertrail6669 6 жыл бұрын
WhiteWulf0414 , this young lady undoubtedly has more talent than me and I'm not taking that away from her. My job was combat comm and I've seen first hand how inferior equipment can be detrimental. My point was a bow, no matter how good, isn't worth $40k. That's like these chefs that spend ridiculous amounts of money on a knife. Does the knife work well?...yes. Does it work better than a $100 knife?... No. These prices are artificially inflated because the manufacturer knows some idiot will buy it so they can show off how much money they have (or how stupid they are) on instagram or KZbin. Just like gold toilet paper and diamond iPhones, some spoiled girl or Dubai show-off will buy it. Like I said before, it's horse hair and a stick. Just because she's a professional violinist, doesn't change that fact. P. S. If you don't like people expressing their opinions, maybe the internet isn't right for you. Have a great 4th of July.
@MrMachiavelli357
@MrMachiavelli357 6 жыл бұрын
I’m with you bro. Gonna buy a $100 violin set and play. Only person or persons I want to impress won’t know or care about the difference.
@Sorestlor
@Sorestlor 6 жыл бұрын
Just remember $100 violin's cant get you all the way you might have to upgrade to say a $500 to last you a few years or a $2000 violin+bow which should (if you look around stores for a good one) get you to the point where it actually sounds really nice and can play most reasonable things. Expensive bows and violins are necessary for soloists but there is a point where it isn't getting you much more if anything at all.
@cinnamorollsmom
@cinnamorollsmom 6 жыл бұрын
i want to RETWEET this comment 💀
@mamamaumamam
@mamamaumamam 6 жыл бұрын
The more expensive the violin bow is, the sadder the sound gets, mainly because of the price
@Abc-qs8ir
@Abc-qs8ir 6 жыл бұрын
mamamaumamam Hahaa, and the sadder the buyer is
@jillhoola3653
@jillhoola3653 6 жыл бұрын
mamamaumamam Haha! Good one!
@camirowe6139
@camirowe6139 6 жыл бұрын
Hahaha
@calebhoffman6705
@calebhoffman6705 4 жыл бұрын
It’s not so much the sound it’s how the bow feels and how it plays.
@AndySpicer
@AndySpicer 3 жыл бұрын
Uh, that’s seems exactly backwards to me. The sound is the only thing that matters. How it feels and how it “plays” may impact the resulting sound but that still makes it about the sound. Doesn’t it?
@lf198
@lf198 3 жыл бұрын
@@AndySpicer I think he’s saying it becomes more user-friendly/ergonomic
@danielesbordone1871
@danielesbordone1871 6 жыл бұрын
Esther , from $500 to $90000 , they sound very similar. The difference can be heard only with the $160000 violin. It has a more excited kind of sound.
@Knallbart
@Knallbart 6 жыл бұрын
The excitement is probably comes from holding a decently sized house in your hands, though. :P
@yuiotre
@yuiotre 6 жыл бұрын
With an audiophile sound quality playback setup you can hear the differences between the bows. And yes there was a big difference between the last two. I found that the more expensive they were, the more organic and with more dynamic range for expression the sound character became. They all were pleasant to listen to, but I could feel that the more expensive ones were more inspiring and inviting to play with more expression. However for the listeners sound preference would be also a considerable factor for choice of what is favorable.
@nakiflo
@nakiflo 6 жыл бұрын
On the slow piece, I can’t hear the difference between a 500$ or the $90k. But on $160k I can hear it. On the fast piece, the $500 gonna throw out the door. The next one already makes a big difference. But the $160k on the fast track, the sounds jump. 👍
@malikulamin9948
@malikulamin9948 6 жыл бұрын
phto148 It mean you're no an audiophile, because you need another tools to know the difference..
@angelosdeltoro9992
@angelosdeltoro9992 6 жыл бұрын
well , idk if you play violin and have tried a few different bows but. Its not only the sound that changes froma good bow to a bad one . Its the ease that it provides to the violinist . If you play with a 500$ bow and 160.000 , trust me it will be like playing tennis with a rock and with a good tennis racket
@Samgiffywiffy
@Samgiffywiffy 6 жыл бұрын
For me the difference is not huge as the prices got more expensive (at least on youtube anyways), however the question is, did you feel more comfortable and in control as the prices rose?
@estherabrami
@estherabrami 6 жыл бұрын
Of course it can be hard to hear on video as the sound is compressed but personally when I was playing I felt I was able to produce a bigger range of colours when playing slow passages and play in a cleaner way in fast passages as the prices went up.
@andsalomoni
@andsalomoni 6 жыл бұрын
+Esther Abrami But in which building features do the bows differ as the price rises?
@captainmarkgray8856
@captainmarkgray8856 6 жыл бұрын
The artist is the most important variable. Aside from that, you also have to play without prejudice so it would be nice if you didn't know which was which because I seemed to notice a difference in how you played each. That aside, the $160K one was brighter, more treble if that is what you like. I do not so I prefer the more mellow bows with more rich tones but hey, if treble is more treble and bass more bass all is good if that is what you like. In the end it is personal preference. I prefer the rich full notes of the other bows but we could watch her play anything or just talk all day. Nice smile too!
@geigenatelierbrusch469
@geigenatelierbrusch469 6 жыл бұрын
I agree with what You say.
@captainmarkgray8856
@captainmarkgray8856 6 жыл бұрын
Me too :-)
@jesselbaptiste4702
@jesselbaptiste4702 6 жыл бұрын
100% Agree
@SyssySyssy
@SyssySyssy 5 жыл бұрын
The most expensive hurt my ears the most. Honestly the cheaper ones weren't actually bad at all.
@appleguy169
@appleguy169 5 жыл бұрын
Syssy99 Syssy99 I couldn’t tell a difference and I have a 10,000 dollar or more violin made one year before world war 2 ended 1944.
@luisdiaz71956
@luisdiaz71956 5 жыл бұрын
Weird flex but ok /s
@MissyLaMotte
@MissyLaMotte 6 жыл бұрын
The cheapest one does sound a bit "scratchy", especially on the slow tune. I find it harder to pick up on the difference between the other ones. To me, the $ 90000 one sounded the most pleasant for the slow tune. On the faster tune, the most expensive one had the clearest and most brilliant sound, keeping the notes apart and not blending them together so much, if that makes any sense. Don't know if that difference would be worth $70000 or even $120000 more, though ;)
@adriengrabinski7376
@adriengrabinski7376 6 жыл бұрын
I do agree for the slow but on the fast part somehow the cheapest sound good to me, but what do I know
@summerghost6551
@summerghost6551 6 жыл бұрын
Wtf $500 for me is expensive enough
@elifylmaz9591
@elifylmaz9591 6 жыл бұрын
Veronica Archiekins ABSOLUTELY
@BesnePrasiatko
@BesnePrasiatko 6 жыл бұрын
Try box of milk with glued strings
@samsungsmartfridge8632
@samsungsmartfridge8632 6 жыл бұрын
Yeah my bow is $35
@Altrote100
@Altrote100 6 жыл бұрын
Totally... That´s way the guittar is more popular
@justolive845
@justolive845 6 жыл бұрын
Veronica Archiekins IKR
@chriss6356
@chriss6356 6 жыл бұрын
I'm not sure still, I guess you need to ship those bows to me so i can try them out.
@alankwan1
@alankwan1 6 жыл бұрын
I don't see so much diff between 40000 and 90000. Of course , there is a so much diff when comparing with the price of 500.But I am so sure there is a significant diff of 500 and 120000. The difference is high frequency much more transparent ,smooth and sweet.
@thenthen4440
@thenthen4440 6 жыл бұрын
lol.
@bepassionate3247
@bepassionate3247 6 жыл бұрын
Great funny comment
@jewerly3843
@jewerly3843 6 жыл бұрын
lol
@akshayagopalakrishnan3343
@akshayagopalakrishnan3343 6 жыл бұрын
Physics Only 9
@ademkhmila3384
@ademkhmila3384 5 жыл бұрын
The difference depends on the player's skills . Give a masterclass violin player a 5$ bow and he will make it sounds as 500k bow and give a 500k bow to beginner and he will make it sound like sheeps
@kanna9308
@kanna9308 5 жыл бұрын
True true true true, I was looking for this comment. Completely agree ♥
@dripmal7469
@dripmal7469 5 жыл бұрын
100%🤣
@danieljamar5639
@danieljamar5639 5 жыл бұрын
ahh no
@mariomorenomusic
@mariomorenomusic 4 жыл бұрын
Is a difference but the sounds changes. The cheap one sounds noisi without boda, the expensive one sounds so clear smooth with body. I think the difference Is where to use It and who Is going to use It.
@brattingprincess
@brattingprincess 4 жыл бұрын
There is a limit on how the bow responds though so I do agree with changing as you move up in répertoire.
@miluiel_92
@miluiel_92 6 жыл бұрын
In the beginning i barely heard any difference at all between the tree first, but the 160 000 was a huge difference than to the 90 000. but when you played the faster part there was a clear difference between all of them.
@mrmeanmachine1971
@mrmeanmachine1971 6 жыл бұрын
i agree during the first part the diffrences were their yet less noticable (echo and clearnis are diffrent though) yet the second part really pointed out the diffrences and they are huge
@diegopadillaperez4057
@diegopadillaperez4057 6 жыл бұрын
I think that the best for this violin is the bow of 90000, it has a beutifull sound, better than the bow of 160000.
@elenademotadengra9414
@elenademotadengra9414 6 жыл бұрын
I agree, and it's good to know that someone else does!
@nnnnttttuuuu
@nnnnttttuuuu 6 жыл бұрын
I am with you
@heatherwebber9747
@heatherwebber9747 6 жыл бұрын
Yes agreed the difference between the 40,000 and the 90,000 was most marked . I would also purchase the 90,000 one.
@uchihaitachidan
@uchihaitachidan 6 жыл бұрын
The 160000 sounds too bright for me.
@nanozone3706
@nanozone3706 6 жыл бұрын
me too
@abbyag
@abbyag 6 жыл бұрын
I feel like the more expensive the bow the more clear the sound and the more responsive the instrument is to the bow.
@tgrimes175
@tgrimes175 6 жыл бұрын
I call bullshit. If you were blind folded you could not tell the difference. I could not tell the difference and I have a B.M. from Berklee College of Music. I had to strain just to hear the VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY subtle difference. Certainly not worth paying 900 dollars for a bow that practically sounds identical to a 40 dollar bow.
@abbyag
@abbyag 6 жыл бұрын
Travis Grimes I wasn't only talking about in the video. I've been to a shop and tried different bows with my instrument and I feel the difference and hear the difference. I know you have a degree from prestigious school and all, but it's just my opinion.
@Syrinx222
@Syrinx222 6 жыл бұрын
Hello fellow Berklee alum! I too could only hear a very subtle difference. The more expensive ones were smoother, and less scratchy. In any sort of mix, you wouldn't be able to hear a thing.
@ericksonlk
@ericksonlk 6 жыл бұрын
The $500 bow is already good enough, the difference (if there is any) maybe wasn't captured by the microphone.
@abbyag
@abbyag 6 жыл бұрын
Leon Erickson I agree, the video didn't capture the quality of the sound from bow to bow, but when you actually are there trying different quality bows you can hear and feel a difference.
@ADELONSI
@ADELONSI 3 жыл бұрын
You are so professional so I didn't find the difference between all. The professional musician can do miracles, and you did 👍😊
@brandonchoi5598
@brandonchoi5598 6 жыл бұрын
Plot Twist: They are all the same bow
@--Music-gt3tq
@--Music-gt3tq 6 жыл бұрын
CheesyWood yup😂
@AlexRiversMusic
@AlexRiversMusic 6 жыл бұрын
CheesyWood How would they be the same when they all sound diffferent?
@brandonchoi5598
@brandonchoi5598 6 жыл бұрын
Alex Rivers Its just a joke :P
@Schwallex
@Schwallex 6 жыл бұрын
Second plot twist: when you rehair your $160k bow, they put the same hair on it as they do on my $200 one. You paid an extra $159800 just for the stick that never even touches the strings. Thank you for supporting the economy.
@brandonchoi5598
@brandonchoi5598 6 жыл бұрын
Schwallex lmaoo
@UlfKloo
@UlfKloo 6 жыл бұрын
I was kind of surprised to find that the more expensive the better, both in tone production and response.Maybe the $40.000 bow is the best value for a top performer though, because it seems to perform very well both for producing a full sound and for fast passages. But I'd go for a bow by one of the great contemporary makers for a fraction of the price :)
@estherabrami
@estherabrami 6 жыл бұрын
I think I agree I enjoyed playing on the François Voirin very much and actually also loved the Joseph Henry. I should do a video modern vs old bow haha!
@Esteban93sc
@Esteban93sc 6 жыл бұрын
Please! jaja it would be very very interesting a video of modern vs old bows clasified by you for example by the comparables bows or whatever you consider (maybe its need at minium a 1000usd bow to start compare with old bows or things like that). It would be very help full to guide maybe intermediate and adnvanced players who sometimes dont play profesionaly but just for fun. Please do a video like this :D
@YehonatanLevi
@YehonatanLevi 6 жыл бұрын
please do, i am deeply intrigued
@mikem8861
@mikem8861 6 жыл бұрын
Is there a much lower price for a world class bow? And do these much higher prices reflect the collectability of the bow, i.e. historical maker of the bow, prominent performers who used the bow? In the guitar world the prices go thorugh the roof if the vintage guitar was used by a famous performer, especially if many great recordings were percieved to have been made with this instrument. Is this the case with the higher priced bows? Obviously great craftsmanship is noticable in any age that it was created.
@riley_oneill
@riley_oneill 6 жыл бұрын
You are an amazing musician but I think revealing the prices of the bows sort of set people up to favor the most expensive one. A double blind test and then a poll would probably reveal that we can't tell much of a difference.
@erikwahlstrom976
@erikwahlstrom976 6 жыл бұрын
Exactly.
@joellebrown4423
@joellebrown4423 6 жыл бұрын
i agree with this
@drtnzhr3446
@drtnzhr3446 6 жыл бұрын
I don't agree with this. It is possible to hear that the more expensive bow is better by far, just need to listen properly, and to be honest, don't tell me there isn't much difference between $500 and $160,000 bow. Just don't. It's like you said that $100 low-end basic smartphone is better than some brand's $1000 flagship. It just isn't. It is probably that valuable for a reason.
@riley_oneill
@riley_oneill 6 жыл бұрын
The point of the double blind test is that people aren't told which one costs more and just have to categorize what one they think fits each price point. There is also the limiting factor of the audio recording methods and acoustics of the room she is in. Perhaps those highly attuned to the craft could tell a difference but if you go and ask random people I think they would have a difficult time and would likely not match them right.
@pat2000m68
@pat2000m68 6 жыл бұрын
Question is, is there a $159,500 dollar difference. I suppose if money is a cheap commodity it is.
@SofSof.
@SofSof. 4 жыл бұрын
I like the 90k one the most. It sounds so nice and soft. The most expensive one gives a very crisp sound, but I prefer the more rounded sound of the 90k one
@musicisitall
@musicisitall 6 жыл бұрын
90.000 sounds the best. more tonal expression, warmer.160.000 more high details
@LionsGateCorp
@LionsGateCorp 6 жыл бұрын
Indeed, as I was about to write the same.
@newcan1701
@newcan1701 6 жыл бұрын
because of the psychologist of the musician ...
@StarBiscuit-e6z
@StarBiscuit-e6z 6 жыл бұрын
i 2nd that.. the 160k's sound is worst than 90k
@愛唱歌的懿個人
@愛唱歌的懿個人 6 жыл бұрын
Agree, 90K sounds the best 👍🏻
@hacnilanyiapowher5040
@hacnilanyiapowher5040 6 жыл бұрын
okay it depends what colour of the sounds you vote but the $90.000 and $160.000 are made by very different material if you are a fully professional you will be able to pick what bow is the superior between 90k and 160k dollars. thx
@brianlam257
@brianlam257 6 жыл бұрын
I can't hear the difference. What's wrong with me...
@lilianaventura5239
@lilianaventura5239 6 жыл бұрын
Ma Sato i know my ears are bad and i dont hhere it
@RidhinSain
@RidhinSain 6 жыл бұрын
Ma Sato me to
@Saints-alive
@Saints-alive 6 жыл бұрын
Hahahahah me too they all sound very good
@nccelloman
@nccelloman 6 жыл бұрын
Listen for clarity and depth. The 160k bow helps her violin sound brighter and focused. Also, try headphones. It helps.
@tasyarosenna88
@tasyarosenna88 6 жыл бұрын
Probably cuz we're not a violinist. 🙈
@jasonbyu75
@jasonbyu75 6 жыл бұрын
I had to fast forward during parts of this because I only listen to violin music played with bows worth over $40,000 made with the hair of scandinavian girls raised for this purpose, who wash their hair only with New Zealand spring water.
@vivirreiramar9797
@vivirreiramar9797 6 жыл бұрын
LoL
@hotchalupa
@hotchalupa 6 жыл бұрын
This made me laugh out loud (and not in the typed acronym way).
@summerghost6551
@summerghost6551 6 жыл бұрын
Jason Burt tf lmao😂😂😂
@sigurdgravem
@sigurdgravem 6 жыл бұрын
lmao
@oliverjason
@oliverjason 6 жыл бұрын
you should definitely check out Bows made from the pubes of elderly women from Zambia. The course hair gives it a dark raspy tone.
@realmariela
@realmariela 3 жыл бұрын
Regardless of the bow, this girl's amazing 🤩
@roneet2
@roneet2 6 жыл бұрын
I think I can detect more differences when the slower music was played. With the faster passages, they all sounded pretty much the same except with the last bow that cost $160,000...that one sounded more crisp and sharp. But seriously, I think the $500 bow sounds good enough...why pay thousands of dollars more for just a slightly crisper sound??!!
@cdreid9999
@cdreid9999 5 жыл бұрын
er youre wrong. its the hair that makes the sound.. the piece of wood has pretty much nothing to do with it. Theres a video on here of a guy (violinist) talking about the "vintage"/antique etc violin market and.. how it's basically a scam. Theres a shop in europe that will precisely copy any violin you bring them.. (NOT cheap.....). I think it was 10's of thousands to copy it. He took them a Stradivarius i think.. when he played the copy he said it felt and sounded exactly the same..
@ariwulandari7136
@ariwulandari7136 5 жыл бұрын
Agreeeeddd
@foxmitchell5571
@foxmitchell5571 6 жыл бұрын
Huge difference, yes! (and great playing, btw!) Would be neat to hear a couple more bows in a not-so-high price range, something below $10k.
@estherabrami
@estherabrami 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much! I will try to keep that in mind for my next videos :)
@FaustoM7432
@FaustoM7432 6 жыл бұрын
i don't think is it possible to evaluate this kind of instruments from a youtube video. there are too many filters from the original sound and your ear. First is the microphone used to capture the original video/audio, and then all software encoder used to save the original track in a compressed format for youtube, and finally your pc speaker for the reproduction. Any of these components cut part of frequencies and harmonics, and then makes the final audio track, fully different from the original.... if you want do a good comparision you have to listen from live.
@gersonmenezes9289
@gersonmenezes9289 6 жыл бұрын
Tizio Cajo Right
@brandyl349
@brandyl349 6 жыл бұрын
Tizio Cajo g ge
@noahman27
@noahman27 3 жыл бұрын
either I'm imagining it, or with each step up in expensiveness of the Bow, the music sounds more and more beautiful and more and more alive.
@helcaraxe0411
@helcaraxe0411 6 жыл бұрын
They all sound fine
@LizzySkater13
@LizzySkater13 6 жыл бұрын
Dolphin of Arda lol
@jeungrioppa5937
@jeungrioppa5937 6 жыл бұрын
Dolphin of Arda you must not play the violin
@helcaraxe0411
@helcaraxe0411 6 жыл бұрын
Jeungri Oppa I do. Sure some sound a little better than others, but they all work, and that’s all that really matters
@kibainuzuka2363
@kibainuzuka2363 6 жыл бұрын
agree, i also play violin and can tell the difference but they all are sound fine to me xD
@helcaraxe0411
@helcaraxe0411 6 жыл бұрын
Kiba Inuzuka Akamaru is cute
@Din976
@Din976 6 жыл бұрын
the only major difference that I've heared was when you ised the 160,000$ bow , it was far smoother and higher tones had...lets say better highlights
@LSDSimus
@LSDSimus 6 жыл бұрын
I heard that too... However I have to admit I've heard a lot of muffling artifacts throughout the video - then the 160k bow and BAM! Crystal clear pitch for few seconds there. And then Esther is talking again and... The muffle is back. So I guess the difference for that particular take is audible thanks to noisegate more than the bow itself...
@RPSchonherr
@RPSchonherr 6 жыл бұрын
I'll agree. The $160,000 bow was brighter on the high notes. Of course the other issue is how it feels for the musician.
@hunter.1
@hunter.1 6 жыл бұрын
true
@MrDIABOLICI
@MrDIABOLICI 6 жыл бұрын
imagine, how this major differences could sound in concert room
@hzuiel
@hzuiel 6 жыл бұрын
I have a really hard time seeing the justification for high price tag items like that except maybe if you are a performer that is recording music in a studio and a soloist doing live performances for sold out theaters and just every tiny bit matters. Obviously a bow priced in 10's of thousands or hundreds of thousands of dollars is going to sound better than a $500 one, 99.99999% of the time, but is it 10's to 100's of times better? Is a $160,000 bow 320 times better than a $500 one? Not even. You can get any bow rehaired with the finest available hair for under 200 dollars, and you can buy factory bows made with the highest grade sticks of the most desirable wood for $1000 or less. Extremely good quality carbon fiber bows are available in the 100-500 range. You could get a hand made bow by a professional luthier, not on a factory line, for likely less than 2000. You can check for straightness and balance with your own senses and bring a gram scale along to the shop to check for ideal weight, play test yourself, and likely with a little effort shopping around, find a bow that perfectly fits what you want for less than $1000, the only thing that could ever justify those high prices is the historical value of the items, in which case, why even do a play test comparison when the value is more about the provenance. It's like drag racing a 60 year old ferrari that was owned by multiple movie stars and is worth millions, against a $35,000 new mustang or similar sports car, you will not have proven anything with the test since the value of the expensive item isn't determined by it's ability to win races.
@sheri6492
@sheri6492 6 жыл бұрын
As a musician, your ear is developed and you reach a point where the tools (bow and instrument) that you are using are no longer on par with your skill level. However, if properly maintained, a violin does not depreciate like a vehicle, but they actually gain more value over time because the sound matures and develops. But, this takes years and years to happen. Each musician is different and their ear is attracted to sounds differently. Some like a brighter tone or a darker one. A rich sound or a mellowed one. It’s difficult to understand until you actually reach that point for yourself. But when you get to that point, those tools become your life. They become your passion and love. Those people will spend hours on end trying to push themselves into higher levels and greater work.
@dustincarl200
@dustincarl200 6 жыл бұрын
What is wrong with you? Hzuiel is 100% right. How can you deny the brilliance? You pretend to be at some superior level? Going out and seeking the perfect matirials and getting a custom bow made at a price that is not discusingly inflated is not only what a true artist would do, it is what many of the greats of the past actually did even when they could aford the centryies old scam. If you really think that it takes even close to that amount to make that quality of a bow, well then, I Wouldn't be questioning your musical ability as much as your intelligence. Sheridan must be one of those that blames their lack of ability on their lack of better equipment. Its people like Sheridan Lillico, exept with much more money that keep this centryies old scam going.
@dustincarl200
@dustincarl200 6 жыл бұрын
The ultimate goal of a musician that gets to the end of his frequency is to create a sound that can not be duplicated, and that does not come at a cost. Spending 160,000 on a bow in hopes that it is going to turn you into a virtuoso has been the false belief of many wealthy musicians. I personally love musical alchemy, and I think with it one could create something that is priceless.
@sheri6492
@sheri6492 6 жыл бұрын
Dustin Carl, I blame my lack of ability on my lack of knowledge and experience which I work every day to learn more and become better. I love my cheap little $400 violin and $200 bow for every penny that I spend on it. I am grateful for my teachers and I am even grateful for having the ability to make some noise. There’s no way in the world I could ever afford something like this, but then again most musicians cannot. I am not saying that quality is dictated by the price tag, because you can find a magnificent instrument and bow for so much less. Thank you for your feedback and your opinions, it’s always good to have eye openers.
@stevenschuyler9527
@stevenschuyler9527 4 жыл бұрын
Hearing this, the difference isn't in what bow you use, it's the TALENT of the violinist.
@Thuymusic
@Thuymusic 5 жыл бұрын
I can hear the difference but you play them both so well and brilliantly!!!!
@arohachanuwu9504
@arohachanuwu9504 6 жыл бұрын
Is that bow (the most expensive one) made from unicorn hair? It's more expensive than my house. (FYI I live in Philippines)
@chiruchan888
@chiruchan888 6 жыл бұрын
😂 i feel you. I'm from ph too, the cheapest bow, my goodness $500 is already an expensive middle class violin here in our country haha and I think the expensive bow sold usually in music stores is the one with pernambuco brazilian wood bow with mongolian horse hair usually at $75 - $80 😅
@arohachanuwu9504
@arohachanuwu9504 6 жыл бұрын
😂😂 ikr
@chiruchan888
@chiruchan888 6 жыл бұрын
😂
@arohachanuwu9504
@arohachanuwu9504 6 жыл бұрын
@immatroll13 😂😅 sml?
@CrypticPulsar
@CrypticPulsar 6 жыл бұрын
Hands down the funniest comment so far! I’m cracking my ass off!! 😂🤣
@jipke
@jipke 6 жыл бұрын
'Very cheap bow'. I'm not a violin player, but I-in my naïvety-would have thought $500 for 'just a bow' would already be spending a decent amount of money. $160,000.... REALLY??? You can buy a modest house for that!?!
@vivirreiramar9797
@vivirreiramar9797 6 жыл бұрын
Siby Manuel most all that listen aren't violinists, so it still wouldn't justify the price.
@MrOhioutod
@MrOhioutod 6 жыл бұрын
My bow was $300 and I consider it "student level." It's not a price you'd pay for a kid before you know if they'll stick with the instrument, but it's also the least you can pay and still get something that sounds moderately good. Ditto for my violin, which was $2000. I'd consider $500 to be reasonable for an intermediate player's first "serious" bow. Having said that, $160,000 is obviously way overkill for all but the most elite pros. At that price, there has to be some sort of "label premium," meaning either someone famous owned it, or a highly coveted manufacturer made it hundreds of years ago. You're not paying just for the musicality of it. For comparison, my teacher plays in orchestras and chamber groups, and she just upgraded her bow to one at the ~$3,000 price point. Her violin is more in the $6,000 range. But her main orchestra instrument is the viola, and hers cost $20,000 with a $6,000 bow. But it's not all in the price. You need to match the bow to the instrument. I've played a bunch of bows -- I've played some that were listed for $2000 and sounded horrid on my violin, and others at $200 that sounded great.
@zh3roabsoluth860
@zh3roabsoluth860 6 жыл бұрын
since she uses a Stadivarius ...
@777ДУХ77
@777ДУХ77 6 жыл бұрын
Jip Ramakers музыка Индийский сериал
@maxomilian
@maxomilian 6 жыл бұрын
Not in Toronto. $160,000 will buy you a carboard box if you're lucky , and don't even think about windows in your box .
@MrTau910
@MrTau910 5 жыл бұрын
Yes...a big difference in the higher prices bows verses the less expensive one..!! Thank you for allowing us to hear the demonstration..!! God bless 🙏
@SomeLittleShoe
@SomeLittleShoe 6 жыл бұрын
The 160,000 was so much better. A bigger, more beautiful sound. I know that's not thecorrect term. But I don't know the correct term.
@butterfly-rv6iz
@butterfly-rv6iz 6 жыл бұрын
Watch her expression ..... Completely fell inside music😍😍😍😘😘😘
@crazybenny8544
@crazybenny8544 6 жыл бұрын
Either way I'm listening to this with 10 doller earbuds... screwed
@TTurtle7
@TTurtle7 6 жыл бұрын
good point !! (-: I was immedeatly asking myself if a medium like youtube is the right place to make such comparisons - but I am not familiar with transfer rates, bandwidth ... maybe blueRayrecording and a good HighEnd would be useful for such ...
@dfbess
@dfbess 6 жыл бұрын
i cant remember who but i saw a post on facebook a while back that showed most high end earbuds and headphones are not really much better than the low end. unless you use the 3 to 5k studio versions, and earbuds like skull candy they found they used the same shit as the cheap ones ,they just advertised them as fancy , like beats..
@arash1620
@arash1620 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the test, The range, volume, and transparency of the sound significantly improved, step by step.
@user-sc8zj9sr5w
@user-sc8zj9sr5w 6 жыл бұрын
My bow was 30 dollars, I feel so sad watching this for some reason.
@sedge6591
@sedge6591 6 жыл бұрын
Don't feel sad... You are at least playing your violin with that bow, right? At $30 you can afford to play now, and one day, $100 and someday $1000...
@samuuciite
@samuuciite 6 жыл бұрын
He/she is entitled to be sad, in this material world, who cares if you can afford 500, wait, 500 dollar is my 2 months rent ish, haha, or 1600000000000, wait, is this money????????????????????
@sedge6591
@sedge6591 6 жыл бұрын
Of course he/she is so entitled. But does anyone really want to be sad? I am sad that I cannot afford a piano let alone the space for one, but I take comfort in the Casio touch keyboard that I found beside the dumpster because at least I can play. If DDAEH7 becomes the master of his $30 bow, imagine how rewarding a better one will be one day.
@bevnicholson9916
@bevnicholson9916 6 жыл бұрын
The fact that you play at all is something to be joyful about: save up and when you can afford it, go get a Coda bow. I replaced my cheap bow that came with my student violin with one of these around $500 and believe me it made such a difference to the way I played which is very inspiring. I will probably never replace it for something more expensive but it feels completely different - lighter and more responsive somehow. It really kicks you into another gear. Dont be sad tho' just enjoy what you have. I would love a really old violin but i know I will never be able to afford one unless I win the lottery so I am determined to do the best with what i have which may mean changing out the strings for something more quality but that will be a lot cheaper than replacing the violin and will make a big diference.
@dorel2625
@dorel2625 6 жыл бұрын
Don’t feel bad I paid the same for mine - the point is is to play.
@danielhan887
@danielhan887 6 жыл бұрын
At first I thought she meant violin when she kept saying bows because there's no way a bow could be $160,000 right? WRONG. I am aghast at how expensive a violin bow can be :o And the fact that she is calling $500 bows cheap ;-; I'm a broke boi #Sadboihours
@DovidShaw
@DovidShaw 6 жыл бұрын
Me too. I bought a bow recently for £7. Seems to be good enough for me.
@bumblebee7542
@bumblebee7542 6 жыл бұрын
😂
@Ai-Mindwave
@Ai-Mindwave 6 жыл бұрын
Oo how u just made me realize it wasnt the violin i was looking out for, but the bow. Wow.
@1223stanley
@1223stanley 6 жыл бұрын
theres a 42 million dollar violin lol
@GreenAppleee
@GreenAppleee 6 жыл бұрын
Hell when you have a 60$ Amazon violin that you’ve been playing for 8 years x_x that hurts
@ven4673
@ven4673 6 жыл бұрын
I definitely hear a huge difference between the first and last bows! But the difference between the 90k and the 160k ones are not very drastic. In fact, in my opinion, the 160k one sounds too sharp especially during the 2nd piece.
@drodolpho
@drodolpho 6 жыл бұрын
Ven I think this too, I prefered the $90000 bow
@suesan5111
@suesan5111 6 жыл бұрын
Ven Hey dumb and dumber, they are all made with near identical quality of horse hair. There is pretty much zero sound variable to a bow. Rosin might make a tiny difference, but not the bow.
@ven4673
@ven4673 6 жыл бұрын
Sue San Hey idiot, if you can't comment without insulting people, then how about you shut up and keep your filthy manners to yourself. And unless you are tone deaf, there is a CLEAR difference between the two.
@drodolpho
@drodolpho 6 жыл бұрын
Ven Again I totally agree with you hahaha
@suesan5111
@suesan5111 6 жыл бұрын
Ven ha ,ha Dumb and Demberest! Got nothing to sound about, but plescidbow,,, they not capable of understanding Gentile quality of REAL Sound, so just kanipshin, ass fucking sound. That's whut i heard. Truly
@bu872
@bu872 5 жыл бұрын
I honestly don’t see any difference 😂
@magnumpunch
@magnumpunch 5 жыл бұрын
No in fact you should hear it.
@ja_u
@ja_u 5 жыл бұрын
magnumpunch bullshit, honestly I can and never will understand the reasoning behind a bow costing $160.000.. Sure there is a very very very slight difference (probably also better noticable if the 500 and the 160k wouldve been olayed right after another instead of a gradual increase) but it in no world explains such a horrendous price
@FeLiNe418
@FeLiNe418 5 жыл бұрын
@@ja_u 90% of the price is for the brand.
@bu872
@bu872 5 жыл бұрын
Jacku Dark yes, the quality of the sound depends on the player, not on the bow or instrument. of course, that changes a bit, but not much to pay 160K on a bow of 1M on a violin
@nemo663
@nemo663 5 жыл бұрын
Just a little
@fatehdarwsh9245
@fatehdarwsh9245 6 жыл бұрын
The 90,000 is the best
@maxmin2031
@maxmin2031 6 жыл бұрын
The difference is there. But to be honest, you can bring in a hundred bows worth $500, test play it and they all sound different. Each bow is unique in its way. the question is will you pay $159500 more for slight difference in sound. At the end of day your strad will still sound like strad. String sets make more difference in sound than bow for lesser price discrepancies
@nomon95
@nomon95 6 жыл бұрын
i"m audio amplifiers enthusiast,,,and the qualituy sound/prices is irreal.Amplifiers with!000 dollar price sounds good(8 points for example)and a very high expensive amplifier may sound 9,50,but the difference in price is 100 times higher, or more(some audio systems costs more than 1000000euros) !0 ponts dont exist.is impossible .no amplifier have the capacity to give all the sounds instantly. a lot of factors make his limit(rise time,,slew rate,damping factor,,,Tim,,,thd,etc). the worst point is in the record a good record with a good audio system,,may sound good,,, a regular record with an ultra expensive audio system will sound regular. Remember:Audio output=audio inputXbeta beta is the gain in db but this is a theorical formula Audio output=audio inputx beta`+thd+tim+noise+hum.+ phase shift..etc etc.
@secoseco8387
@secoseco8387 6 жыл бұрын
I think that the expensive is the player
@leilani8184
@leilani8184 4 жыл бұрын
I only hear a little difference. Prob because u are soooooo good! I know I’m pretty late but. U got a new subscriber!
@KostaTepedelenev
@KostaTepedelenev 6 жыл бұрын
Not worth buying a bow over 15 $ unless you got tons of cash.Yes I can hear the difference and it's not worth 160 000$
@mayurhazarikafromassam
@mayurhazarikafromassam 6 жыл бұрын
I agree
@Aquariuswolfify
@Aquariuswolfify 6 жыл бұрын
I can hear the difference and I like the smoother mute sound of the cheaper bow over the expensive bows that give and extreme crispy sound
@abdallahsharadqah6751
@abdallahsharadqah6751 6 жыл бұрын
Ceylon Coates You heared the difference 👂, and didnt see👀 that she is using the same violin 😂
@sandikawijayaaji7271
@sandikawijayaaji7271 6 жыл бұрын
There are no really big different, the important is man behind the gun...
@KarenBriggs
@KarenBriggs 6 жыл бұрын
or woman...
@strawberries5430
@strawberries5430 6 жыл бұрын
Either woman behind the bow
@sandikawijayaaji7271
@sandikawijayaaji7271 6 жыл бұрын
DeadRecorder hahaha..very funny lol
@bethanyking4659
@bethanyking4659 5 жыл бұрын
When a bow cost more then someone’s rent lol
@nightshaderebel
@nightshaderebel 4 жыл бұрын
Or... house.
@vernonpark470
@vernonpark470 5 жыл бұрын
*PLOT TWIST* All the bows are the same and shes just playing the piece differently each time
@billyreinecke
@billyreinecke 5 жыл бұрын
Plot twist #2: it's the same bow each time and she is playing identically. But she's so gorgeous that one would believe anything she says.
@kdsf12
@kdsf12 5 жыл бұрын
Hint: take a screen shot of each bow. Tell me if the wood is the same colour.
@mariomorenomusic
@mariomorenomusic 4 жыл бұрын
Not true... the difference is shows. The sound Is like play any Piece in a 4000 usd piano vs a Bösendorfer or a steinway.
@raytry69
@raytry69 4 жыл бұрын
You can find the same small features (irregularities, errors) on "all different" bows.
@jenniferblue1387
@jenniferblue1387 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you!!
@manot8273
@manot8273 5 жыл бұрын
My full violin set is 40 USD!!!!!!!!!!
@jub8891
@jub8891 5 жыл бұрын
nice. how is it working out?
@asisqueezylovediary6474
@asisqueezylovediary6474 4 жыл бұрын
Hahahhaha aliexpress?
@wallewaltz
@wallewaltz 6 жыл бұрын
wait wait wait it's not the price of the violin, it's the price of the *bows*
@bobpfohl6268
@bobpfohl6268 4 жыл бұрын
THANK YOU ! I CAN HEAR THE DIFFERENCE, I just started following you on face book, i am looking into building violins in the future and now i think i will add bows to the list of things i will build!
@mrstanlez
@mrstanlez 6 жыл бұрын
I think for a beginner can be violin approx to $200. But for prof. player $90.000 or $160.000 is very close all sounds. Important are with $160.000 the sounds of highs & body of the sound.
@andrewturnbull5897
@andrewturnbull5897 6 жыл бұрын
This sort of demonstration suffers from multiple difficulties. It starts with the hair. To make the test remotely fair, the bows should each be restrung with the same hair, Siberian horse hair, by the same maker, to give each bow its best possible outcome. Next the tension must be identical on each bow so none has an advantage in speed or brilliance. Next, the demonstration must be double-blinded. No one involved may know the cost of the bow being played: that includes the player, the audience and the bow handler. All bows have to be treated as if they ARE the most expensive. Finally; at least 4 different artists at various levels of talent, really it should be 3 artists each at similar levels of talent, then plays the same piece. The piece itself is also important: something simple that takes advantage of all aspects of bow use while AVOIDING HIGHLY EMOTIONAL PIECES! The audience’s emotional state affects what they are hearing. My hypothesis is that there will be little to no distinction between the bows.
@cheerios2503
@cheerios2503 6 жыл бұрын
Andrew Turnbull Of course there would be no difference. Because you fucking redid the horsehair. Alot of the value of the actual bow. Is the horse hair.
@lukashf8440
@lukashf8440 6 жыл бұрын
@Kyozaki: None of the value of the bow comes from the horse hair. Most serious professionals rehair their bow every few months. To the OP: It's all fine to do a double-blinded experiment, but what you're suggesting doesn't seem to make sense. Bows are different than instruments since most advanced players can tell whether a bow is nice just from picking it up. They usually depend heavily on personal preference in playability (lightness, balance, etc.). Also, avoiding emotional pieces makes no sense. Part of the appeal to nicer quality instruments/bows is the emotional range and depth that can be pulled from them. Ideally, a nicer bow would elicit more emotion from the listener. That's not to say there can be cheaper bows that are very good. It's important to separate market value from playing quality. Still, did you not hear a difference in the video?
@andrewturnbull5897
@andrewturnbull5897 6 жыл бұрын
Lukas Hofstätter And this is why scientists do proper clinical studies. We understand how to eliminate subjective evaluations and replace them with objective ones. The tremendous value of this comes home in distinguishing between medical treatments that actually work versus those with no actual effect. Used herein, these techniques can prevent aspiring artists from thinking their abilities will soar with a tool costing tens or hundreds of thousands versus one that simply conforms most comfortably with their hands. It could save them from deep debt. Moreover, if they can afford the bow anyway, they could instead give the money to artistic charities providing instruments to students in dire need. By the by . . . stop swearing.
@lukashf8440
@lukashf8440 6 жыл бұрын
what..? it's impossible to do an objective test for something like this ("hear the difference" experiments). they're always going to be subjective. swearing when??
@joedempseysr.3376
@joedempseysr.3376 6 жыл бұрын
Andrew Turnbull Your experimental criteria are spot on. Your hypothesis, however, seems unfounded. One must actually perform the double-blind experiment before any conclusions can be drawn.
@KNHSynths
@KNHSynths 6 жыл бұрын
It's hard to tell, even being a musician myself. People that can hear 'huge' differences are certainly well trained and have the perfect ear, which I not have... But there is certainly a difference for the player, at least the stress to break the 160k one ! It "seems" only that the 160k is more precise, but I'm almost sure this is purely subjective. Next time try to invert the prices... I'm certain and can bet people will find the (false) expensive better than the (false) cheapest one... The experience will surely be interesting !
@feelgood8120
@feelgood8120 5 жыл бұрын
Olivier Dahan yeah, I remember an experiment where they exchanged wine from a costly glass to a cheap one and the cheap glass to a costly glass. Nearly 95% people voted that the costly glass wine tasted better where in reality it was the cheapest one.
@eceaker8951
@eceaker8951 5 жыл бұрын
In the second part, I felt it so deeply! Its like sound's spreading so smooth and connected!! e.g. using soft pedal vs using no pedal in piano
@AlexRiversMusic
@AlexRiversMusic 6 жыл бұрын
Yes, and the expensive one sounds way better. You get what you pay for with quality Violins and Violin Bows. Thanks for playing for us :)
@amandas1270
@amandas1270 6 жыл бұрын
i can't help wondering what u would have heard had u not know in advance which bow was being played :)
@tgrimes175
@tgrimes175 6 жыл бұрын
I call bullshit. If you were blind folded you could not tell the difference. I could not tell the difference and I have a B.M. from Berklee College of Music. I had to strain just to hear the VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY subtle difference. Certainly not worth paying 900 dollars for a bow that practically sounds identical to a 40 dollar bow.
@AlexRiversMusic
@AlexRiversMusic 6 жыл бұрын
Travis Grimes You clearly don’t play the Violin. You sound both deaf and Ignorant
@tgrimes175
@tgrimes175 6 жыл бұрын
Oh yeah, easy to tell the difference when someone is programing you with the exact instrument and price range. I am confident your ears are not as good as you say they are. If I conducted this test, you would not be told or shown the violin and price range. I guarantee you would not know the difference. Just like the flute video I watched. A PROFESSIONAL flute player could not tell the difference between 4 price range flutes, because the test was conducted without the visual or information and price range of the flute.
@banumathins
@banumathins 6 жыл бұрын
$40000 and $90000 are very nice to hear. $160000 is so loudly and not nice to hear.
@Vaneska59
@Vaneska59 6 жыл бұрын
I also liked the sound of the 40k one best. Kinda smooth.
@andytsui5724
@andytsui5724 5 жыл бұрын
I like $90000 that most
@user-fx5sw4jy7hYz9Hzi
@user-fx5sw4jy7hYz9Hzi 5 жыл бұрын
It's because you do not understand the purpose of this test. 160,000 bow can cover wide range pending on the skill of the violinist. 40,000 and 90,000 ones are played at it's max and to your ears that sounds nice but sometime depending on the piece you are playing, you have to up the game with dramatic sound which they can't deliver.
@brattingprincess
@brattingprincess 5 жыл бұрын
160,000 seems the most responsive
@4c00h
@4c00h 6 жыл бұрын
I'd get the $500 one, buy a house and take you out to dinner with the rest
@VillaShaw
@VillaShaw 6 жыл бұрын
4c00h lol not in Los Angeles, you won't...
@francogallardo481
@francogallardo481 6 жыл бұрын
4c00h smooth
@yunus6365
@yunus6365 6 жыл бұрын
4c00h Oooooo boy
@itouu5924
@itouu5924 6 жыл бұрын
Fluid
@carlnallysimon3896
@carlnallysimon3896 6 жыл бұрын
Lolllllzzzz
@admin92706
@admin92706 4 жыл бұрын
Beautiful playing & interesting topic. Could hear a major difference in smoothness between the $500 vs $40,000 but after that wasn't a huge improvement in sound. The return on investment is probably better off in the actual violin itself. Wonderful job & always enjoy your videos. Bravo!
@Ros8jbh
@Ros8jbh 6 жыл бұрын
am I the only one who can hear the echo is better and the higher pitch tone is smoother when she plays the 160000 one?
@vincentlewey657
@vincentlewey657 6 жыл бұрын
Especially on the second piece!
@alexdavidson7034
@alexdavidson7034 6 жыл бұрын
R.H H me too yaa
@MatthiasLenardt
@MatthiasLenardt 6 жыл бұрын
... for you fits best: slow 40000 ... and fast 90000 😉 ... enjoy!🙋‍♂️
@estherabrami
@estherabrami 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your feedback I indeed enjoyed playing on the Joseph Henry (90K) very much!
@mcgufbd
@mcgufbd 6 жыл бұрын
Completely agree. There was no noticeable difference in the 40k and 90k on the first piece. The 90k sounded the best in the fast. All are too expensive for me, but you play fantastic.
@AJSpinDrift
@AJSpinDrift 6 жыл бұрын
These were my thoughts too. It's quite apparent from this example how the bows reacted differently and are more suited a particular style. If I were to pick one however, it would certainly be the Joseph Henry, it really sounded beautiful with your Strad.
@lautarosantucho5756
@lautarosantucho5756 4 жыл бұрын
QUIÉN VINO POR UN POCO DE TODO?
@danteelcapoa8113
@danteelcapoa8113 4 жыл бұрын
como se llama la cancion??
@bubbleteakookie8114
@bubbleteakookie8114 4 жыл бұрын
Yo vine a ver como se llama la pieza xd
@nikolatesla9337
@nikolatesla9337 4 жыл бұрын
Wenas
@mahiaabarzua5555
@mahiaabarzua5555 3 жыл бұрын
@@danteelcapoa8113 Czardas, creo
@honestspirit56
@honestspirit56 2 жыл бұрын
I can hear the difference without question. You are such an amazing musician…..
@wassuphoomanimyourlocalali3784
@wassuphoomanimyourlocalali3784 3 жыл бұрын
It’s probably just me, but I feel like I heard more “crunchy” noises from the 160k bow than I heard from the $90.000 bow
@johnybrokeit
@johnybrokeit 3 жыл бұрын
Why do yawl use dots instead of commas in your numbers :) ? Like 90.000 for ninety thousand instead of 90,000 :) And yeah, I sort of heard the crunches in the 160k bow but maybe it came from the depth of the wood n entire instrument of the stradivari? Maybe the lady can let us know :) I would LOVE to understand what she hears in the bows as they go up in price. Sincerely. Im still in shock from needing to accept that bows exist that cost 160,000 dollars! I did hear the initial scratchiness of the first bow disappear into smoothness and polishedness (LOL) when with the second bow... and after that I couldn't hear what I believe I'm supposed to in the latter models.
@wassuphoomanimyourlocalali3784
@wassuphoomanimyourlocalali3784 3 жыл бұрын
@@johnybrokeit Whoops, thanks for pointing out my mistake with the dot, I forgot that you were supposed to use commas instead of dots when typing ___ thousand in numbers 😅 For the why do I put dots, that's more on because of habit. And yeah, perhaps it could have been the Stradivarius itself, but for further confirmation and investigation, we'll need Esther's opinion and explanation on what she hears in each bow :)
@FancyNoises
@FancyNoises 3 жыл бұрын
@@wassuphoomanimyourlocalali3784 isn't that something they do in Europe? :D
@wassuphoomanimyourlocalali3784
@wassuphoomanimyourlocalali3784 3 жыл бұрын
@@FancyNoises I'm not sure since I don't live in Europe lol
@linglingwannabe9135
@linglingwannabe9135 3 жыл бұрын
@@FancyNoises do you just assume everyone lives in the same continent as u?
@falahnhasann1343
@falahnhasann1343 5 жыл бұрын
My violin price is $100 connect with amplifier $15 and mic $10 You cannot imagine how i feel...happy and very happy .
@leavesofdistinction1679
@leavesofdistinction1679 3 жыл бұрын
I can! Rented mine from a school for $50 a month for 2 years. 🙂
@justfiddlinaround1128
@justfiddlinaround1128 3 жыл бұрын
When the expensive bow is twice as much as you make in a year...
@sophiegirl752
@sophiegirl752 3 жыл бұрын
I could definitely tell the difference! Wow. Beautiful. Searing. Leaves me with an echo in my bones.
@iontachdalba
@iontachdalba 5 жыл бұрын
Regardless of the differences in sound quality, it is obscene that any bow would cost $160,000.
@stephanchheang2559
@stephanchheang2559 4 жыл бұрын
My daughter’s bow was $0.99 at garage sale!! Lol!! It’s ridiculous because with that money I can down payment on a house in Long Beach California USA! Or feed my whole village in Cambodia for like 30 years on rice, fish and vegetables!!! Ahhhhhhhh!!!!!
@polymix2971
@polymix2971 4 жыл бұрын
Agreed, the ratio is a bit off here. Someone a long time ago figured out that rich aristocrats will pay stupid amounts of money for a fancy name and a fancy totally non biased musicians opinion on the product, I'm sure they split the money afterwards.
@SamBrickell
@SamBrickell 3 жыл бұрын
Stop misusing words. Piss off. In a World where people are literally starving it's "obscene" that you are wasting time watching a video on the internet when you could be working the fields... and yet here we are.
@mickthenick1
@mickthenick1 5 жыл бұрын
There's so much wrong with this comparison, I don't know where to begin. First, you should have had these bows played by a violinist who was not aware of what bows he/she was playing. Either intentionally or unintentionally, the fact that you knew which bow you were playing is likely - and at least possible - to have an influence on the way you play. Secondly, you should not have told us, the audience, which bow we were listening to. You could have asked people to comment on the differences they (think they) hear, or to choose some kind of order, without us knowing what was the cheaper bow and what the more expensive one. Then after a while, you could have provided 'the solution'. To address both of the above points you need a double-blind test. Any other test can be thoroughly biased. Lastly, and possibly damning for your 'comparison' is the fact that you or some assistant has evidently been tampering with the sound of the recording. There is a HUGE amount of background noise when you play compared to when you talk. And there are somewhat different levels of background noise - and an inexplicable difference in treble levels - from one bow to the other. Once we know you have been tampering with the sound quality (digitally 'enhancing' some parts) the whole recording is not to be trusted. Sorry, I don't fall for this.
@CoxJoxSox
@CoxJoxSox 6 жыл бұрын
Sounded a bit louder
@firepyro66
@firepyro66 6 жыл бұрын
she played louder.
@777ДУХ77
@777ДУХ77 6 жыл бұрын
Музыка индиски
@peterquill5729
@peterquill5729 6 жыл бұрын
Хакер Алик что за произведение? ??????
@망히-z9z
@망히-z9z 5 жыл бұрын
The bow hair and resin and hand skill make the tone. Heifetz can make any instrument sounds fantastic with any bow. I can too.
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