ESTJ LSE Personality - Explained in-depth

[@Just_Rusted]

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[@shaneaverystarr]

Coming back and seeing this video after my typing and our talk together makes it so crystal clear. Thanks @Rusted!

[@shaneaverystarr]

I think this is my single most favorite video of yours.

[@IsaacKing-yf4ty]

Gordon Ramsay has to be my favourite example of this type by far. He uses so much Te and Si when he criticises people who can't cook properly.

[@jjworld1393]

the thing u said about ne mobilizing is so accurate to my LSE friend. he literally brags about so many random things all the time and he does not understand that hes overdoing it

[@Just_Rusted]

Glad it's accurate

[@marynvos4028]

Excellent description of my father in law, absolutely all the details you mentioned. Loves his pringle shirts and BMW. Very aware of status and possessions, but not in an E3 way. Well done, I was looking forward to this. They can be real difficult people and when they are enneagram 1, fuuuuck, that judgy perfectionism and controlling OCD, coupled with pride and a pathological need to tell everyone what they should and how to do it.The man once bought me house cleaning products when they visited 🤯 No wonder my husband is E9 😂 you need a real thick skin and colossal powers of anger repression to deal with estj E1. There's good qualities too of course. The Arny clips were great. Cheers Rust!

[@jaredvaughan1665]

You make excellent contact with intuition and ethics to be a great teacher.

[@Wringfale]

Growing up with an LSE father is something

[@Just_Rusted]

Lmao they are something else as fathers

[@migattenomathis509]

But you can learn a lot from them, it can be really beneficial if they are not traumatising you yk

[@Wringfale]

@@migattenomathis509most definitely. They just need to learn to relax and not take everything so seriously lol.

[@Wringfale]

@@Just_Rustedespecially when you aren’t high in Te

[@Randomvideos250]

LIE here with an LSE father, I’m like the xanax version of him lmao

[@Vlixzw]

Ready to hear about this absolute Chadwick of a type!

[@Just_Rusted]

Big daddy doms

[@masterprocrastinator6026]

Great video, Rust, as always! I actually watched it with my mum, who's an LSE and a SO1. Some traits you mentioned didn’t quite fit her, like being annoyed by emotional expression or feeling unsure in relationships-she's fine with both. However, her focus on applying methods at work and creating an aesthetically pleasing environment definitely resonates with her, along with other traits that clearly make her an LSE. Overall, I agree that the characteristics you described generally apply to LSEs.

[@Just_Rusted]

Aushra has written something about LSEs emotion too "The LSE does not speak of good things, which they take for granted. Their grumpy emotions tend to suppress the emotions of others around them. The LSE believes that excessive emotions tire people and, as far as their dual, the EII is concerned, this is true."

[@masterprocrastinator6026]

​@@Just_Rusted I mean yeah I for sure agree that this applies to many LSEs, including many I've met personally, however I don't think this necessarily applies to my mum though, she's a fairly positive person most of the time. I guess she's kind of different than most LSEs in that sense ig 🤷‍♂

[@Just_Rusted]

If she is more positive person in terms of emotional expression why would she be LSE when they have Fe-?

[@masterprocrastinator6026]

​@@Just_Rusted I mean, because she's for sure an E1 and Te base and Si creative fits like a glove tbh. She's very perfectionistic, organised, methodical etc. Very focused on doing the right thing, and applying methods on others, but can also be sometimes critical and believing that she is right about everything and can be bossy as well. She's in no way an Fe base, she isn't really focused on emotional expression or influencing the moods of others and she's in fact also quite reserved. But she's not an introverted type either, since she's so focused on the outer world and correcting people and situations. I think she can be overwhelmed though by too much emotional expression and maybe dislike when people around her act too irrationally, so that might be an indicator of Fe- prehaps. I think she just is a more accommodating SO1 ngl.

[@rakhatkupeev0311]

“My typically overbearing mother” ahh type. Great and relatable description as always. Is there gonna be an ILE portrait?

[@jaredvaughan1665]

True, their Suggestive has only 1D of info, but LSE is motivated aspirationally by 4D valuing Fi. In fact, model G shows that privately LSE makes contact with sensation and ethics the way an SEI (mbti-ISFP) does publicly. And this means taking their partner to nice restaurants and surprise dates.

[@marynvos4028]

Nice observation, I have seen my Estj father in law doing exactly this - taking his wife on surprise getaways and trips.

[@shaneaverystarr]

Great video. Thank you!

[@MeliMeli66]

As an EII enneagram self preservation 4W5 INFP I would never get along wth an LSE. I generally do not do well with anyone trying to boss me around or telling me what to do. Probably would fly in a blind rage and punch them in the face especially if they are in my personal space. However, there are some aspects that I respect about the LSE because as a self preservation instinct type 4, I also believe in hard work, some measure of suffering to earn what you want and doing a job well. I am also a perfectionist. I cannot stand charlatans, people who talk but don't produce anything or liars.

[@Just_Rusted]

You are Te suggestive, you want to be told what to do and how to do it, this does not have to mean that LSE will scream at you with orders, you simply want guides when it comes to actions.

[@luoruizhe-v7v]

So basically every LSE is an Asian 40 year old parent

[@Kaizen_]

Biblically accurate asian parenting

[@OnlyPureSounds]

A lot of Asians are SJ’s nothing racist

[@sharpiesarecool814]

my LSE mother is constantly angry. there are those rare moments she is integrated to 7 tho. I understand where her anger comes from but I cannot agree with the way she expresses it. she believes herself never wrong. She is quite unable to see her own faults (like blind to it!) because in her mind she is right and has done no wrong. it's almost insane to me. she could potentially be a narcissist, but she gets along well with strangers. but she heavily verbally abuses my family. she becomes hysterical. she will almost daily if we are all together complain/blame/rant at us for 30 minutes-1 hour straight. her Ne is also fucking annoying to me, she cannot say anything simply and uses way too many details. she seems to talk a lot without saying anything meaningful. and she ACTUALLY talks about the weather everyday like the stereotype of a normie. it's always "i'm this or I'm cold" she is such a baby to me and it literally disgusts me as an intuitive. she wants to be treated like a baby even tho i'm her daughter. being around her my whole life has forced me to disintegrate to a 2 as she would disintegrate to 4 and throw tantrums and crying fits cuz she feels like a victim. i understand tho, her arranged marriage to my sp7 dad was terrible.... (it's a little better now after 27 years, they both are VERY sx blind, I feel like this marriage beat them down). she is so/sp 1w2. as sx/sp 4w5 i always felt like she and i were strangers. very weird/cold dynamic. she took 0 interest in me all my life (i think cuz she is sx blind). she can be chill sometimes cuz Si. and she gets more openminded as she gets older and older so that's good. i get more proud of her as i, too, get older, and appreciate the fact she stayed with the family. she was in her weird way extremely generous. so that is not wrong. i know she loves her family, she is just so sucky personality wise sometimes. thats like every Te dom tho lol (got an ENTJ grandma too). ENTJs are more cool i guess. more laidback when it comes to details. they are restless tho, can't stop moving.

[@sharpiesarecool814]

i just overall prefer Ni-users even tho i'm infp. there is always friction with every type im realizing. things are relaxed with fellow ne/si users, but there's more of a dynamic with ni/se users even tho we work differently. hence why i feel better around entj than say estj. i had an istj boss just about ready to fire me, i left before he could LMAO. but then i have an INTJ boss and he was so lax on me, he just "gets" me. like yeah we are BOTH not detail oriented lol. i quit and he is still okay with me working there again if i want haha, he grants me FREEDOM. he's like yeah go find yourself! even if it's risky lol. XSTJ need proof of you following your dream for it to be valid, thus se users are better for them. Ni is more individualistic, i think by the sheer reason it's rarer. if ni wasn't rare oh boy would that be suffocating a lil bit.

[@linnaeusa]

Yes, finally!

[@SunlightMoonlight10]

Underrated type!

[@anjociborgue]

That's 100% my grandma (she's SX1 too). This woman is a menace

[@rubeng9092]

SLI next pls

[@Just_Rusted]

Will happen soon i believe

[@TheOneWhoHasBlueEyes]

Rusted is cute as fuck

[@shaneaverystarr]

"!!! Damn it! Just quit fucking crying ok!!!???"

[@joanaalmeida8903]

Do you agree to debate with Jack from WSS?

[@Just_Rusted]

A debate would mean i talk with someone with the possibility of changing my mind which is not something i would do, i am not interested in western socionics.

[@joanaalmeida8903]

@@Just_Rusted its just for the seek of showing what theory/model makes more logical sense. Why not?

[@Just_Rusted]

@@joanaalmeida8903 There is no such thing as what makes more logical sense. Classic Socionics is ORIGINAL theory and it has been butchered and changed to fit peoples own frameworks, that's all there is to it.

[@joanaalmeida8903]

@@Just_Rusted just because its original that doesn't mean that can't evolve. Aushra is not a God and Socionics is not a purist religion, but a personality theory...

[@Just_Rusted]

@@joanaalmeida8903 There will always be people with enough intellectual narcissism to believe that they are the ones that will make things evolve. Aushra is not a god, she is the creator of a system, if you change the foundation of the system and it's principles, you are not using how socionics was intended to be used, you are butchering the system simple as

[@Solarqueenthesoverign]

The criticism of appearance is so true with this type even with my father, I found him unnecessarily fussy about the aesthetics of something. If someone is not in their optimum physical shape in his life, he points that out again and again and with a lot disdain. He attributes being ugly to being physically unfit. He is also really irritated if someone cuts corners. I as an LIE, Can spot where he is wasting his energy and time from a mile away. He doesn’t. He managed to do well in his career and always attribute his success to sheer hard work and will power. There was no strategy. It baffles me beyond belief how he worked his entire life without a goal in mind. This type is an interesting one. Estj infuriate me so much but I do like them at the same time because we have similarities but differences are big too. I have no respect for tradition. I embrace and advocate for change and novel ideas. They are too rigid and closed minded. They are inflexible and arrogant and I’m entrepreneurial and inventive.

[@Solarqueenthesoverign]

Wow ain’t that my estj dad then I don’t know what would be 😂 I’m an entj (probably LIE) daughter with estj dad and it’s been interesting 🤣

[@offenjoyer]

We should create a BDD p*rn section with LSEs as main characters, great vid.

[@rpd0825]

Nice vid, from someone w both parents being LSE lmao

[@AbuAb-ls8vy]

What would you type Five Hargreeves from Umbrella Academy? Javier mf said he is a LSE SO 1 ? What do you think about that, and also what would you type Jose Mourinho in football?

[@Just_Rusted]

Think Javier types him LSE E1 rather than LIE now

[@AbuAb-ls8vy]

@@Just_Rusted why?

[@giusemineo]

Lesgooooo

[@elqueridodavidson]

SLI

[@hadiza1]

💜👩🏾‍🎓📚💜

[@BigPapa64469]

cmon do iee allready

[@cobusvanderbijl6378]

Hi my dad I always think of as beieng lse. But he doesn't by music I don't think he owns music. I am always getting right fully speeches why didn't I think of that or did that. Reminding me always to do something or don't lol. Has no believe in personality types. Opposite of me buy I do love him would be screwed without him. Good day

[@Memento_Mori3210]

8:07 I can see Ben shapiro being an LSE or showing qualities of one but using that clip as an example of LSEs being factual over subjective is hilarious when mutliple geneticist can debunk his take

[@HAHA_MFer]

PLEASE GOD, allow us to learn the distinction between LSEs and LSIs--in what universe does Gordan Ramsey and Judge Judy try to "control their anger" or follow normative Fe etiquette? Definitely not this one. They routinely do the opposite, which is why, in part, they are so popular. They have no problem displaying their RAGE, whenever, and, however, it manifests--they have no decorum in that aspect.

[@Just_Rusted]

I don't think you understand what an LSI is like

[@HAHA_MFer]

@@Just_Rusted There is almost ENDLESS video of Ramsay and Judge Judy nearly going into cardiac arrest due to maxing out on unbridled rage, at very inappropriate times, and yet somehow that says normative, role Fe to you?

[@Just_Rusted]

Ramsay who imposes methods on everyone else on HOW to do X Y Z thing is Te ignoring now, sweet. 3. “Rage is the mighty god of the strong.” Tends to knock people out of complacency. The LSE does not speak of good things, which they take for granted. Their grumpy emotions tend to suppress the emotions of others around them. The LSE believes that excessive emotions tire people and, as far as their dual, the EII is concerned, this is true. In a conversation they press on the interlocutor, even trying to intimidate them, but if others are not afraid, they show courtesy and politeness. They take refuge in rage under extreme situations where they cannot cope on their own.

[@shaneaverystarr]

The thing is, I don't take my car to the car wash every single day... ...just every other day 😅, and once in a while I will have to double up if it's exceptionally windy or dusty. I keep the interior exquisite with not a crumb on the ground or on the dash. Everything has to be high quality, clean and polished.

[@RiRiRiPoks]

Erm but 16p typed Gordon Ramsey as ENTJ