Estonia: The Life and Death

[@buxisinbad4288]

First ship that arrived to rescue was MS Viking Mariella. MS Silja Europa organised rescue mission because they first received radio MAYDAY call from MS Estonia.

[@thegoldenpuppet3793]

Buxi Sinbad ugh Isabelle came faster than Europa and helped people when it was at the second stage

[@-moominremix-3280]

@@thegoldenpuppet3793 nope isabella was fourth to reach the area

[@pweirdonexistschanneldead2563]

@@thegoldenpuppet3793 U don't know anything here is the lane of ships that made it 1.Mariella 2.SILJA EUROPA 3silja symphony 4.ISABELLA U suck at this.i know everything about MS estonia

[@logthemini]

Wow an EXPERT

[@eriksimca9409]

and before anyone could reach estonia in time it had sunk already

[@sophiescents]

26 years ago 💔 Mariella arrived first, rescuing 40 people from the open sea (Estonia has already sunk by then) Horrible they didn't bring home the lost souls, Sweden had military equipment transported on this ship and didn't want this to be revealed so the government then decided Estonia should remain on the bottom of the sea (depth only 75m) and they also suggested it should be covered in CEMENT. 😱

[@SFtruckerWolf]

I was on sea that night too, on ship what ws goint from Turku Finland to stocholm. Morning before coming to Stocholm crew told us that ship from estland is sunken. Was very quiet breakfast that morning, like stockholm was also allmost like ghost town that morning. I am not sailor, I am trucker but made about 1400 trips with ferries. Two times have beeing in ferry what almost falled on side, one was 1 degree from that point that it comes up again, second 2 degrees. Two times on ship where was fire on machine room, with smoke up etc. and every 1 in 1000 ships are sinking, so don't come same ferry with me.

[@goawaylol9104]

SFtruckerWolf lies

[@kartupelitish1903]

Damn. Seems like some worthy life expierence

[@miguelvillanuevasaveukraine]

Wait Stocholm sunk the andrea doria

[@hi-vz4un]

@@miguelvillanuevasaveukraine Stockholm is "Oldest Cruise Ship" in current. But...She's going to be disassembled(Scarpped) because the shipowner MV Astoria has collapsed due to problems such as Financial problems (MS Stockholm, now MV Astoria)

[@citrice]

My grandparents died that day and I just can’t imagine there panic...I never met them which I think is a little better for me because I didn’t know them but still. And 2 days before they died my grandmother send a postcard to my mom saying that there happy.

[@BISMARCK-ks5it]

I'm sorry for your loss that must be a difficult video to watch for you 😣😒

[@MajorAce_usedtobeMechchad]

The trauma most be hard for you. May they rest in peace with all the other souls lost that day.

[@elmin82]

sorry for your granparents

[@lindastefanjansson3727]

R.I.P Estonia we will never forget you and my land sweden miss you :(

[@finlandball42]

*Tallink

[@saurasan]

My boss was working on Viking Mariella when this happened. She was called at position to help those few alive. In the morning she saw dead people floating in the ocean. Then some passengers at Mariella had nerve to complain to her how their shopping trip was ruined bc of this and just casually having a breakfast while watching ppl floating under their windows.

[@unclexeres]

Typical human behavior, it's always, all about me.

[@Anubis2862]

i guess some of the passengers are narcissistic

[@elmin82]

@@Anubis2862 yes and ignorants too

[@yea0276]

Shipster1912 do you want a little tip? When you are making simulation of real ship (real tragedy) add some information: how many people went on a board, how many died abd how many survived. Add info about size of the ship how long does it took to sink and some comment from you. Keep going and do what you do. Id like to watch more story's. Also remember that music and sound effect are very important. Im waiting for a next great sink-simulator!

[@petronilohuyo2622]

yea02

[@Balnazzardi]

Bit inaccurate, according to the witnesses Estonia had turned upside down before she finally sank, some of the survivors had been sitting on the bottom of the ship....also it was Viking Mariella that first arrived at the scene, not Silja Europa.

[@pweirdonexistschanneldead2563]

@balnazardi Ur right 1.marilla Then Silja Europa And the ship was upside down

[@patrickomusic]

The silja europe reccived the maydau call and send the nearest ship to the location.

[@FifoTheItalian]

It's a game, it cant be perfect.

[@nozomiyomi1039]

Wait Viking Line Mariella?

[@K2KOfcoursegg]

This is 4 year ago

[@classicmapper364]

Good video, but Estonia was completely upside down before final plunge.

[@vilhokivihalme9878]

Yes and the sinking part is unrealistic. The sea is only 80 meters deep and the ship was 157 meters long. According to some descriptions and animations, the aft already hit the bottom, while the bow was still on the surface.

[@kebab420]

Shipster used Virtual Sailor 7.5, which isn't always accurate. I'd know because I have it.

[@panzerivausfg4062]

@@vilhokivihalme9878 Estonia didn't hit the bottom while sinking. She sunk from the right side.

[@Roscoe.P.Coldchain]

Exactly what I thought and they all have made the same mistake when doing these sinking simulations

[@Roscoe.P.Coldchain]

@@panzerivausfg4062 she actually sank stern first and turned completely turtle before going down

[@David-nu6kw]

Complete design flaw. Once again the force of water greatly underestimated. Scary.

[@edwineriksson2882]

How to make the ship capsize in vehicle simulator?

[@carlpalomaki2796]

It feel so bad to see same bar and ship now to the bottom of the Baltic sea,where i travel many times in 1980 first on Viking Sally and last time from Vaasa to Uumaja.

[@CharlierPvPFSX]

aww, rip 852 people ;( .

[@Shipster1912]

Indeed, It's Liam by the way :P

[@mikugames360nice5]

Oof

[@nosacz8882]

😥

[@asasnat342]

@@nosacz8882 ok boomer

[@l0kaltpsykf4ll34]

5:01 this is kinda wrong , silja europa was the first to to organise a rescue mission because they recieved the mayday call from estonia first , the Viking mariella was the first on scene then silja europa arrived after mariella , all the ships that where involved & in order: 1. viking mariella 2,silja europa 3. silja symphony 4. M/S Isabella 5. GTS Finnjet

[@peterduxbury927]

Putting aside inaccuracies in your production, the Vid demonstrates in principle just how a missing Bow Visor will sink a Ship very quickly. Credit to Shipster 1912. Thanks.

[@jp-legal]

Problem is noone witnessed an open ramp. So this has no foundation in reality.

[@kenneththorberg6914]

Wake up sheeple , reality is waiting.

[@peterduxbury927]

@@kenneththorberg6914 So - I am asking: What do you find that was "unrealistic" about my original comment of two years ago? Sheepie?? I just don't get it!

[@mariacennet]

В 1:35 Эстония затонула. 4 судна, которые пришли на помощь через час, подняли 59 человек. Остальные провели в море 7 часов и 1/3 из них замёрзла. Примерно 100 человек подняли только в 9 утра вертолёты, которые кружились уже с утра долго люди провели в спасательных шлюбках, треть замёрзла.. 90% людей утонули через 30 минут после неисправности в шторм, но сильный крен был за 10 мин до потопления, у людей не было шансов, они просто не успели предпринять что-то.. Покойтесь с миром..

[@AncientCultist]

Hello, i'm here to translate what this guy or girl said, he/she said *At **1:35**, Estonia sank. The 4 ships that came to the rescue in an hour lifted 59 people. The rest spent 7 hours at sea and 1/3 of them froze. About 100 people picked up helicopters at 9 a.m. that they had been circling already in the morning for a long time, they spent in saving baubles, a third froze.. 90% of people drowned 30 minutes after a malfunction in a storm, but people had a strong roll 10 minutes before drowning there was no chance, they just did not have time to do something.. Rest in peace..* if anything is wrong, then it might be because i used Google Translator to translate that, also, this guy or girl is russian.

[@step1610]

@@AncientCultist thanks

[@TheMerryPrangster]

Don't forget Mariella was already there deploying lifeboats. Nice vid btw.

[@ΑθανασιοςΠαπαζωης]

Με

[@MysticianLuna_VG]

you mean liferafts

[@CarlySmith001]

I like how you re-enacted it

[@vakke5120]

Can you make a tutorial how you sank the ships?

[@swedenesc]

I’d actually like to point out a mistake: Mariella was the first ship to arrive at the scene. Silja Europa came second:-)

[@thegoldenpuppet3793]

Isabelle was first

[@tuiresmolsky1314]

@@thegoldenpuppet3793 Nope, Mariella was first.

[@thegoldenpuppet3793]

Well OK I'm wrong but Isabelle came 2nd

[@panzerivausfg4062]

Silja Europa came first, omg

[@l0kaltpsykf4ll34]

@@panzerivausfg4062 NO : M/S mariella came first , ' '' On September 28, 1994, Mariella was the first vessel arriving at the scene to assist the sinking MS Estonia (1980-built cruise ferry). This shipwreck disaster is ranked Europe's second-deadliest (after RMS Titanic) and the world's 3rd (after "MS Al-Salam Boccaccio 98" sinking) as it resulted in a total of 852 dead. The Mariella ship managed to pick up 15 survivors from the sea, plus another 11 brought by rescue helicopters as the ferry was used as main helicopter platform at the scene.'' source: www.cruisemapper.com/accidents/Viking-Mariella-ferry-1906

[@leonxrdd]

I know im late but how did you make the bow go away?

[@rhyjojones5877]

whats the name of the music playing from 4:21 please? great video :)

[@leechoochong6321]

My son knows a lot about MS Estonia. He said Estonia sank in the Baltic Sea. That sea used to be a busy area for ship.

[@SsVoyage1892]

Omg this video is now available in the usa again!! I haven’t watched this video since I went to mexico 2 years ago :O

[@vakke5120]

Can you make a tutorial how you turn ships like a 40 degrees?

[@boffis123]

It was not just Silja Europa that saved survivors from Estonia, Viking Mariella was the first ship to arrive and save people. Otherwise very good video.

[@gta92900]

but Silja Europa answered first or something like that

[@UncleanerBullet]

Silja Europa was first to hear the message and the Europa was in charge of the whole operation but it only saved 1 survivor and Mariella and others more, but Europa captain did his job super good I think its also thanks to him that so many got help.

[@elefteriosmouratidis]

its minegamer first to do what? To reply to Estonia.

[@nsbsvsvsbdnsnns9222]

+elefteriosmouratidis zzzv

[@cryssarn]

@XxXIdont have lifeXxX no. Listen to the radio transmission. Mariella was first on scene. Doesn't matter where you're from

[@xxblueflowerxx1038]

It's really hard for me to watch because my grandmother's mom died on the ship

[@gkfujiwaraesquibel7998]

2:25 this triggered the perfectionist in me

[@Titanic_401]

What game do you use?

[@alondecc]

Titanic Virtual sailor

[@sauliens7]

Hello. How did you removed the visor in the simulator?

[@kalliopiskenderoglou8012]

does enyone knows the title of the first song please?

[@nadejdajeanschmidt1015]

Don't ever forget, the small saving boats was open boats, so they was also full of fucking freesing cold water and dead boddies.

[@supertrinigamer]

Hey shipster, do you have the scenery still?

[@adrianusterraqueus309]

2:53 Anyone know the song name?

[@TheMiska91]

What music/soundtrack?

[@stianmathisen4284]

Carl Eric Reintamm did arrive the promenade deck 1 till 2 minutes after the loud 2 or 3 bangs that happened between ca. kl. 01.02 or 01.05. According to JAIC the bow visor fell of the ship around kl. 01.16. So the 2-3 big bangs, water on deck 1, and the following starboard listing did happen ca. 10-15 minutes before the separation of the bow visor! That is pretty strange, because that means that the sekvens of happenings did indeed start approximum 12-15 minutes before the car ramp could have let all the water inn on the car deck. That brings the questions on why the water came in on deck 1, and why the ship listed before the ramp fell down and the visor separated from the ship !? Reintamm did see something in the water that left the ship backwards to the left app. 10 minutes before the separation of the bow visor. Assuming that Reintamm looked backwards to the left from starboard promenade deck point of view, the thing in the water most likely could have hit the starboard side of the ship before the separation of the visor, and the opening of the ramp. If Reintamm speaks truth it clearly proves without any shadow of a doubt that the specific time of the the 2-3 loud bangs, the inlet of the water on deck 1, followed by the with 30 degrees starboard listing a few minutes later, that this sekvens of events clearly happened before the separation of the visor and the downfall of the ramp........

[@rellydpogi]

Estonia is a coolest ship ever thank you for creating this in Virtual Sailor

[@Zerebox2015-2020]

How did you remove the bow visor in vsf?

[@spino4313]

ZereLaatikko theres a model without the visor

[@nimpula]

Great video! :) Whats the song/songs you used in this video?

[@kokab]

It is sad. Why aren't there emergency exits on the side of the ship. And a platform to descend lifeboats all at once instead of them having to be thrown one by one from the top of the ship? We've gotten so advanced so why can't these measures of safety be taken?

[@the_alex_ellis_channel6923]

Complete Cock-up the Estonia was. Firstly, it was never designed to sail in seas like the Baltic. Secondly, its sister ship was dry-docked at the time, having repairs to the bow visor after the exact same thing almost happened to it.

[@Shipster1912]

+The_ALEX_ELLIS_Channel Sorry? Firstly, the Estonia was a Baltic ferry, so I don't know what you're on about there, mate...

[@the_alex_ellis_channel6923]

Shipster1912 It was designed for coastal waters, not open regions like the Baltic sea. While the ship was able to sail in the Baltic, the bow visor wasn't designed to withstand it. You must remember that it had been with other operators before going to Estline, and did not always sail in the Baltic.

[@Shipster1912]

+The_ALEX_ELLIS_Channel I know it did, but it clearly was designed for the Baltic, especially if its main route was Tallinn to Stockholm. That route takes her to the heart of the Baltic.

[@Bongo44551]

+Shipster1912 It was designed for the Stockholm-Turku route, which is sailed in 80% archipelago. She wasnt made for travelling non-stop on open waters, one of many causes behind the disaster.

[@MarineAqua45]

Personally I think that the ship itself was carrying some type of soviet military cargo in a truck or a car, which was parked in the car deck & someone ( probably the Russian FSB) didn't want that ship making it to Stockholm. Also why is it that there were members of Swedish Special branch police on-board this ship? Who was the unidentified man on the Bridge in the reddy-brown suit, whose decomposed body was found by Dave Mawston, when he dived the wreck? Why was another diver ( a separate diver in scuba gear) in the car deck poking around & when Rockwater divers discovered him, he swam away trying to hide from the spotlights shone on him? Why was Greg Bemis's ship stopped by the Swedish Navy, near the wreck-site & had his vessel boarded? Why did Sweden want to cover this wreck in concrete, when other ferry wrecks elsewhere, have been left uncovered, even though human remains are on-board? Why did Britain decide to bar its citizens from diving the wreck in a signed treaty?

[@NyxxyNightstar]

Where did you get this? I can't find it on the VS7 library and I've been looking everywhere for it.

[@Shipster1912]

It's a work in progress, I can't give her out

[@miiliigaa1]

Me as Latvian, im heartbroken to see how Estonia sunk. 24 Latvians died 😭

[@piidarrrpipele2800]

Tas viss nenotika netisham

[@docteur6667]

Is that the port of Tallin??

[@JR-jg3mf]

Nice video! R.I.P 852 pepoles... But why silja europa door is open!?

[@dr.maynard1962]

My parents died on that ship when I was 5

[@brandnazvi9354]

nice. but how you get those sky and water graphics realistic?

[@brandnazvi9354]

cool. whats the link

[@Shipster1912]

+TheAmerican Admiral it's private, bro.

[@brandnazvi9354]

okie

[@ItsSamHussey]

I wonder why she sank by the stern seen as the visor was at the bow

[@Balnazzardi]

According to the official report the water broke the windows of the ship from the rear first, so all the decks at the rear of the ship filled with water first. Also this is bit inaccurate as the ship had turned fully upside down before she finally sank.

[@vakke5120]

And amazing video!

[@Itapirkanmaa2]

Too bad the concept of the visor and the ramp are merrily confused in the video, apparently due to the ship simulation software used. The ramp was behind the visor, not all alone foremost in the bow as in the simulation. The visor was not meant to be watertight, the ramp was. The visor is the foremost shaping and shielding part of the bow that could and needed to be lifted hydraulically to gain access to the ramp. In the Estonia, however, the ramp was partly housed in the visor, which meant the once the visor was lost, it also forced the ramp open, and the car deck was flooded in minutes.

[@K2KOfcoursegg]

your a good animation drawing!

[@OptieEm]

Hes a.. what????

[@K2KOfcoursegg]

Fnaf Arthur a animation

[@K2KOfcoursegg]

Fnaf Arthur anyway what’s this simulator called ?

[@faekapira]

@@K2KOfcoursegg VSF, also this isnt a drawing its a game

[@K2KOfcoursegg]

aduritethatonedude and what is the simulator called?!

[@Brother517]

hey bro whats the music

[@atte_kortesalmi]

how you can get ships sink

[@ThisGuy9000]

Wait! I thought Mariella was first at the scene..Silja Europa captain only coordinate the rescue mission.

[@tsukirunsu]

what program did you use?

[@hoovythenoovy7633]

Virtual Salior

[@SuperPevan]

Where can i find it?

[@5ANDEZ]

You know, the author of this model didn't want any recreations of the sinking done..

[@ArronP]

So the front of the ship just fell off?? Strange....

[@Makrateli]

What's strange? It was not whole, so it went off hinges after a severe beating, kind of like a door can come loose if you bang on it hard enough.

[@faekapira]

there's a reason why it fell, the waves weakened it and eventually broke the locks so it disconnected, then the waves weakened it more to the point where it fell

[@sairaannopeeniksu3960]

amazing!

[@Shipster1912]

Thank you very much!

[@hoovythenoovy7633]

where did u get estonia model

[@hoovythenoovy7633]

?

[@RobinTheMini]

This is the Disney official story.

[@danilozivanovic03]

This is so sad 😢

[@RobaSkoba]

this silent hunter music tho xD

[@BrakeCoach]

Can you remake the sinking of Sewol(the Korean ship which sank when going to jeju island and turned too much that it capsized)?

[@73haba]

Estonia was a tragedy in my youth...

[@helene4397]

I was 4 years old that year. And my brother was born on November that year.

[@JubeliGaming]

It wasn't silja europe that arrived first it was Viking Mariella. good video ennyway

[@thegoldenpuppet3793]

No Isabelle look at the documentary film

[@tuiresmolsky1314]

@@thegoldenpuppet3793 Nope, Mariella was first on the scene.

[@Ambos123]

Game name pls

[@irma619]

....this music is definately from silent hunter ??

[@AntonioSilva-il4mi]

Jonh Lennon

[@mitte90]

i may be wrong but there was no rescue boats.. there was no time to release them.. some inflateble rafts was deployed tho but most got cout by the wind and did fly away or flipped.. most survivers was alone in the water only with float vests..

[@ovrpwr9188]

Simulator name?

[@mariosprekas408]

where could i find silja europa?

[@marmur2909]

In Estonia, duh. Sails from Estonia to Finland daily

[@thegoldenpuppet3793]

Wrong today it's in Latvia it's named Europa cuz it sails the whole europe

[@tuiresmolsky1314]

@@thegoldenpuppet3793 Nope, wrong again. She does not sail in hole Europe, she sails between Helsinki and Tallin regularly and sometimes to Latvia, that's it.

[@faekapira]

@@thegoldenpuppet3793 lmao did all your brain cells explode or something?

[@erikhan04gt80]

Please can send link for this

[@Cheddar_69]

What ia the game namr

[@Gryfder]

What is game used? Ship Sim Extremes? Virtual Sailor?

[@Gryfder]

Thanks!

[@RasmusHellenberg]

Vehicle simulator

[@thetman1097]

Darknova Runecaster virtual sailor

[@ravinlove3]

Deficere X t56hvvffrl

[@daneleach241]

10 cm of water in a ferry can sink it as it will make the cars easier to slide around and if it turns they will move to one side and flip it

[@peterduxbury927]

Thanks for that great explanation. I always wondered why 10cm would be fatal for this Ship.

[@pooltuunitud]

It will not slide the cars, the weight of the water moving to one side of the ship, if its 10cm or more on the car deck, causes the ship to list and heel over

[@unclexeres]

@@pooltuunitud I had to do the conversion from metric, 10 cm would be about 4 inches, being that was spread across the entire deck with the Sea state as it was would be a huge problem for stability. It and itself perhaps wasn't enough to sink the ship but the lack of stability and severe list allowed more and more water to flow in, dooming the ship and it's passengers.

[@CalebPlayz-y8s]

WHAT ARE YOU PLAYING

[@sr-lc6cw]

R.I.P Estonia passengers.🛐🛐 Sorry for your lost 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭 the year 1994 is gone for ever.

[@manyuping21e]

The rain and strom make this ship sink -_-

[@rellydpogi]

Shipster1912 your animation is cooler than mine because I watch 12 animation and I have something cool

[@rellydpogi]

Shipster 1912

[@yurivillanueva9337]

That's a game. Not an animation.

[@thehappypiano2985]

What is the name of this app

[@soovi4522]

It's a game on PC. Virtual Sailor 7

[@emmacashmore2762]

Why on earth did you use the Sherlock Holmes music a mind rebels at stagonation

[@ALEXF1LTR4TE]

download link??

[@sr-lc6cw]

DOWN-LOAD SHIP. Hihihi

[@amandaeklund8136]

Oh my gosh!! Poor people:-( This is just like Titanic

[@Ayeato]

Estonia was upside down when it sank.

[@helinah7732]

No?

[@faekapira]

@@helinah7732 yeah.. survivors even took photos on top of the keel

[@australiagamingvideos8826]

RIP all those people who did on that tragic day 28th September 1994

[@australiagamingvideos8826]

Heavy boi!

[@australiagamingvideos8826]

No

[@australiagamingvideos8826]

Fuck you

[@DotterSvea]

At what depth does Estonia lie?

[@Shipster1912]

240 ft.

[@DotterSvea]

+Shipster1912 That's not very deep! (Or perhaps my expectations were a little unrealistic) :P Thank you! :)

[@DotterSvea]

+Lempsu Thank you! :)

[@DotterSvea]

+Dante Birkoff Wow! Do you know which ship wreck is at the deepest depth?

[@DotterSvea]

Dante Birkoff I shall! :) God that's an unimaginable figure. I'm gonna google that as well, thanks! :D

[@martinpollet3835]

link of download please

[@gianaranez4949]

No wonder no ships work this way

[@RECHARGED77]

2:58 "EST no!" cried the fat controller. #MS thomastonia

[@William13490]

how to take bowvisor off

[@ESPirits87]

The video is inaccurate, the bow didn't let go until it sank, also the car ramp was upright at all times, the only way it could sink was because of a hole on starboard side. The ship lies at 70-80 meters depth, the ship is 157 meters, so it actually stood on the bottom for a while according to witnesses.

[@goawaylol9104]

The visor pulled the ramp down and the water went to the starboard side

[@ESPirits87]

@@goawaylol9104 inaccurate, the ramp was closed when divers went down, it was open about 30 cm, not enough water could enter, had to be a hole below sea line.

[@goawaylol9104]

I've always been told that the visor pulled the ramp down

[@goawaylol9104]

No,it definently did

[@lefty2660]

Silja Europas bow looked like it was gasping ._.

[@soovi4522]

I don't think there were that many lifeboats in the water

[@Veronica-ew8yc]

My dad workt at Mariehamn hospitahl and satt wiht 1women ho survived and huggd hear. Last year hi went to Estland and took hear to dinner wiht hiss wife hi still say that is hardest memory from that die

[@raze533]

How did you get the real sinking Shipster1912

[@marpollet4801]

download link please

[@hi-vz4un]

Estonia sank in waters that are shallower than Estonia's length. Estonia last minute She was presumed to have capsized with the stern in the water. But still slightly tilted to starboard, leaving only the bulbous bow and bow door. The ship sank and hit the bottom of the Baltic Sea in a storm, the cause of Estonia's wreck remains a mystery, and there are many theories as one of the causes of Estonia's wreck, but those theories are not. always have doubts

[@Odqvist89]

The simulation is wrong. The water tight ramp behind the bow visor were intact and closed. It was closed before, during and after the accident and it is still closed today.

[@faekapira]

no, the waves also loosened the ramp, causing it to fall. it was held up by the visor until it fell, opening the ramp and letting water freely enter.

[@Odqvist89]

@@faekapira The ramp was closed during the whole event and even after the wreck had come to rest at the bottom. There is evidence enough for this not to be an issue of debate.

[@faekapira]

@@Odqvist89 when the ship capsized, the ramp could've fallen to its original position.

[@Odqvist89]

@@faekapira Yes, but it did not, because the winches were still intact, all wire on them still, taught and snug. The ramp could have come loose and then close again, but no force of nature would have wind up the winches. It would look like spagetti instead. And there is also anecdotal as well as photographic evidence of passengers climbing down the beams at the back of the closed ramp when escaping the capsising ship. Thus, the ramp never opened. Not at surface, nor during the sinking and nor at the bottom. The watertight seal for the ramp, a rubber gasket, was severly damaged and abused by the crew, thus leaking a significant amount of water aboard. This can be seen on security tapes and was told by a surviving crew member as well. It is, however, not enough flow of water or accumulated volume to nearly support this simulation.

[@ilovethebalticsthreesimpnr5721]

Oh my! My mother's name is Silja.

[@SkylerFredKelly]

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