The sinking of the M.S. Estonia

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Blue Star Line

Blue Star Line

Күн бұрын

30 years ago on Wednesday, September 28th 1994, M.S. Estonia sank as she was crossing the Baltic Sea, with the loss of 852 (out of 989) lives.
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@UmaTheJackal
@UmaTheJackal Ай бұрын
My grandfather was on that ship that night it was also his birthday not something he called a birthday that day! Today he is 79 years old and talks about it! We celebrate at a baseball game on his birthday!
@dannys942
@dannys942 12 күн бұрын
I guess he was one of the lucky 137 who had to drift for 7 hours until rescue arrived. Gee this is one of the most morbid and bleak marine disaster!
@UmaTheJackal
@UmaTheJackal 12 күн бұрын
@@dannys942 Pretty much, but the man never talks about it as this a scar on his life
@OldShippinglines
@OldShippinglines Ай бұрын
You have brought this tragic sinking back to life, sir. Well done on the animation. Rest in peace to all the victims of this tragedy👍🏼👍🏼
@Blue-Star-Line
@Blue-Star-Line Ай бұрын
Thank you, Jamie. Hope you are well!
@mariaunosdotter7673
@mariaunosdotter7673 Ай бұрын
I'm from Sweden and I remember when I started the radio that morning and heard about Estonia. They say that almost everybody in this country knew someone who died on Estonia or know someone who lost a friend or family. I have a friend who lost a friend
@edwineriksson2882
@edwineriksson2882 Ай бұрын
30 years now...
@alexgrek6000
@alexgrek6000 Ай бұрын
The M/S Estonia sank on September 28th 1994 on its way from Tallin to Stockholm,if i'm not wrong??
@edwineriksson2882
@edwineriksson2882 Ай бұрын
@@alexgrek6000 From Tallin to Stockholm
@edwineriksson2882
@edwineriksson2882 Ай бұрын
I cant believe its true!
@Nationalistic_Swede
@Nationalistic_Swede Ай бұрын
@@edwineriksson2882fr
@Arska-q6c
@Arska-q6c Ай бұрын
​@@alexgrek6000 yep and your not wrong
@Thor-Sten
@Thor-Sten Ай бұрын
I remember the night, or rather the following day, very well, even though we were not affected. My uncle was a chief radio operator at the coastguard and heard everything over the radio. Little by little, new information kept coming in. We traveled a lot on the Baltic Sea by boat ourselves and found it hard to explain how this could have happened. After all, she wasn't a small ship back then. We followed all the news ourselves and hoped that it wouldn't be so bad. Accidents are tragic and happen, but it's a lot worse when you don't know why and how. As far as I know, the investigation is still ongoing. We manage to solve murders that happened 40 years ago. We dive to the Titanic and know almost everything about its sinking, but despite today's possibilities, we can't find the exact cause of the Estonia's sinking. Despite a depth of only 80 meters. My condolences once again to all the families and others involved or concerned. Special thanks also to the many rescue teams.
@dlsgrowyt2208
@dlsgrowyt2208 Ай бұрын
it was a submarine. because the hull had already started flooding before the visor came off (survival testimonies say this) and a holes been found on the ship. the ramp was also still closed when it started sinkign so it shouldnt have happened. most likely scenario is that a sub hit the bow and then the side (causing the sounds people reported hearing) and then after the ship started listing the waves and such broke windows and water came into cabins and halls thru that. (people said water was coming from everywhere, ceiling pads, stairs and so on)
@YevonZ
@YevonZ Ай бұрын
​@@dlsgrowyt2208people create conspiracies out of the dumbest stuff. The Estonia carried military equipment out of the eastern bloc previously, so Russia must have killed almost 900 people. As if the visor falling off and flooding the car deck wouldn't be enough to destabilize a type of vessel famous for capsizing.
@li.gren.
@li.gren. Күн бұрын
We know exactly what happened. But you think a big ship could just keep going with a huge hole in front going against the wind taking in water? Some people just can't seem to handle the fact that accidents, disasters and death can and does happen. Y'all are looking for conspiracies soothing you with lies that shit just can't happen it has to be some ridiculous conspiracy, in order for you to be able to feel safe in an unsafe existence.
@s0upra536
@s0upra536 Ай бұрын
Blue Star Line, I just want to let you know I remember watching your videos such as Estonia, a Nightmare At Sea, and Cruise Olympia loss of a ferry. A lot of that really contributed to my love for ships as a kid, and I'm amazed with how far you've come. Keep it up.
@Blue-Star-Line
@Blue-Star-Line Ай бұрын
Thank you very much for your kind words. I really do appreciate it!
@Mendeofc
@Mendeofc Ай бұрын
this was absolutely terrible. I'm from Finland, so that touches. My relatives also died in the accident I only remember how upset my grandmother was for a long time after the accident. She was not on board but her sister was and perished. My grandma never went on a ship after that. my grandmother passed away only about a year after the accident. part of the reason was his sister going away
@BHuang92
@BHuang92 Ай бұрын
30 years ago seems alot closer than the sinking of the Titanic! One of the worst peacetime marine disaster in Europe!
@edwineriksson2882
@edwineriksson2882 Ай бұрын
Baltic sea's Titanic
@user-fz9zk3v7h
@user-fz9zk3v7h 6 сағат бұрын
You did a great job on this video about the sinking of the Estonia, thank you very much ❤
@shannonTHEcannon_
@shannonTHEcannon_ Ай бұрын
Recently heard about this from tiktok and cant imagine how terrifying it must have been for on board passengers. The fact that it sank quicker than the titanic juat gives this sense of helplessness that makes this way more devestating (not trying to say that the Titanic was not as devestating of course it was) but with the titanic many people at least had a chance of survival. Does anyone know how many survived the Estonia if any?
@Blue-Star-Line
@Blue-Star-Line Ай бұрын
852 out lives were lost of 989
@shannonTHEcannon_
@shannonTHEcannon_ Ай бұрын
@@Blue-Star-Line Wow! I cant imagine the terror from both those who survived and those perished :(
@helene4397
@helene4397 27 күн бұрын
And unlike Titanic, Estonia was lost in a storm.
@shannonTHEcannon_
@shannonTHEcannon_ 27 күн бұрын
@@helene4397 Either way both incidents were horrific in their own way :(
@MiqueiasHiraoka
@MiqueiasHiraoka Ай бұрын
After 50 years, congratulations ❤❤
@BRAINROTTER9936
@BRAINROTTER9936 Ай бұрын
30 years
@eszett36
@eszett36 Ай бұрын
I have a recommendation: The MV E. Evanghelia. An Irish built ship owned by Greece that crashed off the coast of Constanța. Its wreck is famous among tourists.
@DavidReynolds-v2n
@DavidReynolds-v2n Ай бұрын
I lived near estonia Stockholm port. Same night seeing News about the disaster . I cried because we also joined eu
@frankgamingroblox
@frankgamingroblox Ай бұрын
Love the new pfp, and great vid bro!
@82AIRBORNE82
@82AIRBORNE82 Ай бұрын
"Titanic of the Baltic Sea"
@Theaviationlover-350
@Theaviationlover-350 Ай бұрын
And the weather repeated itself in baltic sea 20-30 ms
@soumaditya8115
@soumaditya8115 Ай бұрын
Nice video sir.
@wolfric951
@wolfric951 Ай бұрын
I hope they didn't say that "this vessel is unsinkable"
@dlsgrowyt2208
@dlsgrowyt2208 Ай бұрын
they didnt, and not to the titanic either. thats misinformation. the titanic was never claimed to be unsinkable
@thomasgarza9304
@thomasgarza9304 Ай бұрын
@@dlsgrowyt2208 The phrase "practically unsinkable" is used by the owners of the Titanic. With hindsight, it's obvious this phrase was a bad publicity campaign.
@DutchDukeMan
@DutchDukeMan Ай бұрын
hm intersting how it was a car ferry. i remember when i went to the UK by car a few years back the cars were also not secured in any way just parked in the lower decks. i guess they don't ever expect any crazy waves on these ferries.
@gregnelson9502
@gregnelson9502 Ай бұрын
I can't believe it's been 30 years and two days since the Estonia sank.
@mistervacation23
@mistervacation23 14 күн бұрын
It took 10 hours. It eased into the water like an old man into a nice warm bath - no offense. I tell ya, I hear people really stuff themselves on those cruise ships. The buffet, that's the real ordeal. Well, all vacations have to end eventually.
@DC10_AV
@DC10_AV Ай бұрын
This is gonna be lit.
@Donaldducc2
@Donaldducc2 26 күн бұрын
When I was 8 years old I was on that ship but Mariella came and rescue me :D
@edwineriksson2882
@edwineriksson2882 Ай бұрын
Baltic sea's version of titanic
@Lion_510
@Lion_510 21 күн бұрын
the Titanic disaster was less dire. the ship sank for 2.5 hours. Estonia sank in 28 minutes
@Theaviationlover-350
@Theaviationlover-350 Ай бұрын
30 years already. R.I.P for all who died
@LiikenneKuvaus_Katt
@LiikenneKuvaus_Katt Ай бұрын
I'm finnish i have been on ms silja europa and ms mariella the ship that ms estonia gave mayday call to and helped estonia a million times onboard maybe But right now i am bit sad because ms silja europa is somewhere else and i dont know when she come back here😢 and also mariella got sold away to Italy
@ryanpoulin5144
@ryanpoulin5144 Ай бұрын
Great video and sad story. A death blow like that in a storm🌩🌊 to a nice ship ⛴like the Estonia, it's sad.😢 Just out of curiosity, can you do a video of The TITANIC III from the movie TITANIC 666? That would be awesome to see and the other viewers would love to see that. Please leave a comment and like if you think Blue States Line shoud do a video of TITANIC III 🚢from TITANIC 666. Please and Thank you 🚢
@ats2320
@ats2320 Ай бұрын
I wish we would know the whole story
@daze00k
@daze00k Ай бұрын
What do you mean?
@Gabriel_Rojas_Arena
@Gabriel_Rojas_Arena Ай бұрын
A ferry built who had a grand evolution ended under the name of her country and sunk by a design flaw, potentially an unknown Submarine and under a terrible storm 🇪🇪 🇪🇪
@LiikenneKuvaus_Katt
@LiikenneKuvaus_Katt Ай бұрын
Good animation
@Blue-Star-Line
@Blue-Star-Line Ай бұрын
Thank you!
@kern3l
@kern3l Ай бұрын
30 years now.. im from estonia
@Lion_510
@Lion_510 21 күн бұрын
why did the protective door fall off after the nose fell off? an ill-conceived design flaw?
@li.gren.
@li.gren. Күн бұрын
To quote someone else: "A ship with a dozen flaws was allowed to sail on a route it wasn't meant for, with damaged parts here and there, design errors and lack of safety features... a nearly identical ship had suffered front visor lock failures in a storm, but the information was shoved in a drawer and not acted upon... it was the year's strongest storm, the captain hurried, one of the flaws expressed itself (front visor locks broke), a design flaw amplified the outcome (the visor pulled the car ramp down), early warning didn't come (camera coverage had blind areas, the bridge couldn't see the visor, sensors didn't show much), lack of safety features made the disaster quick and terrible (lack of a watertight separating wall allowed the entire car deck to flood). People knew that the ship had flaws, inspectors tried to stop it from sailing (a truck accident had damaged the car ramp and it was found to be sealed with old mattresses) but had no authority since they found the flaws on a training visit. The company pressed on and the ship sailed - profit needed making. A watertight separating wall was theoretically required, but the company applied for an excemption, and was granted the right to not modify their ship for use on open sea."
@oliverspitzer3787
@oliverspitzer3787 Ай бұрын
The ship was manipulated or not maintained- this could never happen
@li.gren.
@li.gren. Күн бұрын
Lol what? You don't think ferries or ships can sink, despite the countless examples of ferries and ships sinking? Must be nice to live an existence where nothing bad can happen accidentally, where accidents, disasters and deaths are unheard of.
@soumaditya8115
@soumaditya8115 Ай бұрын
Sir could you do sinking of the battleship Yamato please.
@RyanMcshane-ri4jw
@RyanMcshane-ri4jw Ай бұрын
Wat happend to it tho or how did it sink i just saw the front coming of
@li.gren.
@li.gren. Күн бұрын
You "just" saw the whole front come off leaving a big hole in front in a storm, and you wonder what happened?! It sunk of course, due to the huge hole in front, in a storm, sailing against the wind, taking in water...
@universe-ve4zq
@universe-ve4zq Ай бұрын
What caused the bow to randomly come off
@RoyaleFamilys
@RoyaleFamilys Ай бұрын
Probably the waves or just badly locked
@Mr.megalodon_Studios
@Mr.megalodon_Studios Ай бұрын
Structural stress caused by the massive waves during the storm.
@LollaKoop
@LollaKoop Ай бұрын
My dad’s birthday is 24.September with means the ship sink in 28.September and it was 4 says after my dad’s birthday?! Nahh I feel bad and I actually cried
@kasi5472
@kasi5472 Ай бұрын
30 years now.
@RutgerHarms
@RutgerHarms Ай бұрын
im pretty sure the weather was worse otherwise the bow cant fall off
@j_mack1996
@j_mack1996 Ай бұрын
Was that real footage in the beginning.
@sodo-tech
@sodo-tech Ай бұрын
no
@henri372
@henri372 Ай бұрын
I recommend watching the Discovery documentary from 2020 done by Swedes and Norwegians.
@li.gren.
@li.gren. Күн бұрын
You mean the unsubstantiated "documentary" that brought up different conspiracy theories, some of them in direct conflict with eachother that essentially meant that if one were true, the other couldn't be...? Nah, I'd rather listen to facts and logic such as a ferry will sink when a huge hole opens up in front as it sails against the wind in a storm.
@Donaldducc2
@Donaldducc2 28 күн бұрын
4:33 the bow is raised
@highlander5521
@highlander5521 Ай бұрын
The "offical version" of the sinking...
@HerpDerpNV
@HerpDerpNV Ай бұрын
verses the version you pulled out of your colon?
@highlander5521
@highlander5521 Ай бұрын
@@HerpDerpNV come on, there is enough. There would be a submarine collision, a suspicious cargo and so on. You know that as well as I do, why the wreck is not allowed to be examined, why did they want to bury it completely under stones and so on. If it had been a normal accident, why is there such a fuss about the wreck? There are still new cracks and holes that were discovered, the discoverer was then arrested. There is a coastguard or marine boat constantly circling over the wreck and so on, Google will help you, you've already made it here. There are countless versions, only this one has been made official
@highlander5521
@highlander5521 Ай бұрын
@@HerpDerpNV googleisyourfriend
@elriem-vm6yc
@elriem-vm6yc Ай бұрын
@@HerpDerpNV richtig toller typ, google halt du held...btw das video wie oft wollt ihr das noch hochladen?!
@captainyamato594
@captainyamato594 Ай бұрын
Next video video SS Titan next SS Bismarck next MV trans Asia Malaysia video next feri Malaysia video next SS of the gradisca hospital video next MV Britannic next MV georgic whistle video next SS Cap polonio next SS Cap arona next SS Cap Trafalgar next SS kaiser Wilhelm video ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️💯💯💯💯
@svenlazer7942
@svenlazer7942 Ай бұрын
the military vehicles are cut out for a reason?
@daze00k
@daze00k Ай бұрын
Bro what?
@svenlazer7942
@svenlazer7942 Ай бұрын
@@daze00k 4 military vehicles were on the ship. probably russian or estonia stuff for the us military research.
@p-osweden934
@p-osweden934 Ай бұрын
@@svenlazer7942no
@HerpDerpNV
@HerpDerpNV Ай бұрын
@@svenlazer7942 Why are you feeling the need to lie on a YT comment section?
@pga370
@pga370 27 күн бұрын
@@HerpDerpNV, а зачем обломки Эстонии забетонировали?
@JazzFan76
@JazzFan76 Ай бұрын
Not a good design to have the bow lift up fir a parking garage.
@JazzJaRa
@JazzJaRa Ай бұрын
The Estonia was never designed to operate on the open sea, it was designed for coastal areas.
@HendrikLindberg
@HendrikLindberg Ай бұрын
hole on starboard along 42meters height from 4 till 6m. 😢
@li.gren.
@li.gren. Күн бұрын
Yeah, let's ignore the huge hole in front that sailed against the wind in a storm - and instead focus on a much smaller gash on the side, most likely caused by either hitting bottom or during prepation for the later cancelled concrete covering.
@marguskiis7711
@marguskiis7711 Ай бұрын
The video is wrong because all the witnesses and divers say that ramp was NOT open, it was closed. Open ramp is total BS. And the ramp was above the water.
@Blue-Star-Line
@Blue-Star-Line Ай бұрын
Check your sources, kid. While you are at it, check your grammar and spelling too :)
@marguskiis7711
@marguskiis7711 Ай бұрын
@@Blue-Star-Line pointless demagogy
@Blue-Star-Line
@Blue-Star-Line Ай бұрын
@@marguskiis7711 Just like your previous comment. Don't forget your capital letters!
@marguskiis7711
@marguskiis7711 Ай бұрын
​​@@Blue-Star-Line I talk about the fact. No one saw the open ramp. I have read the official report btw.
@HerpDerpNV
@HerpDerpNV Ай бұрын
@@marguskiis7711 Please don't lie.
@GrannyEscapeMasterYT
@GrannyEscapeMasterYT Ай бұрын
Do Life Of The RMS Queen Mary
@Blue-Star-Line
@Blue-Star-Line Ай бұрын
This is something I techically made a mini movie on here! kzbin.info/www/bejne/bWK0iYyBr9ejmrM&ab_channel=BlueStarLine
@GrannyEscapeMasterYT
@GrannyEscapeMasterYT Ай бұрын
@@Blue-Star-Line ohhhh
@GrannyEscapeMasterYT
@GrannyEscapeMasterYT Ай бұрын
@@Blue-Star-Line what about the Life Of RMS Oceanic 1899
@Jakubwaligorski-ep8ky
@Jakubwaligorski-ep8ky Ай бұрын
Wow
@Thidavann_Soth
@Thidavann_Soth Ай бұрын
❤️‍🔥
@simsrp9253
@simsrp9253 Ай бұрын
Modt of the passenger died in cold
@unitedbros108
@unitedbros108 Ай бұрын
@Oliver7350
@Oliver7350 28 күн бұрын
eks laeval oli ikka kokkupõrge allveelaevaga
@fxbigtoelilzoui1696
@fxbigtoelilzoui1696 Ай бұрын
There is still 0 clarification to what really happend nor what happened to the survivors who later went missing, only thing for certain is there was military equipment onboard, what more is there to say?
@StudiomcmasterTV
@StudiomcmasterTV Ай бұрын
yeah, its really strange that the governments wont admit anything nor let anyone legally go investigate.
@fxbigtoelilzoui1696
@fxbigtoelilzoui1696 Ай бұрын
@@StudiomcmasterTV my mum knows personally the two dancers whos surname was Veide, they were from Pärnu.
@HerpDerpNV
@HerpDerpNV Ай бұрын
Why do you feel the need to lie about this?
@HerpDerpNV
@HerpDerpNV Ай бұрын
@@StudiomcmasterTV Its in only 80m of water. Recreational SCUBA divers can reach it. Go check it out yourself. Why would you lie about it?
@o.s.i.o.
@o.s.i.o. 23 күн бұрын
😢😢😢
@Nationalistic_Swede
@Nationalistic_Swede Ай бұрын
Sad
@alexgrek6000
@alexgrek6000 Ай бұрын
30 years since the MS Estonia sank.
@VladimirStepanov-e6h
@VladimirStepanov-e6h Ай бұрын
The time is running like a hell.
@jenturner5638
@jenturner5638 Ай бұрын
What game is this
@Cervus-zz1ox
@Cervus-zz1ox Ай бұрын
Its an animation
@jenturner5638
@jenturner5638 Ай бұрын
@@Cervus-zz1ox o thanks I thought it was but there’s a game on steam called ship simulator realistic and it looks like an animation
@Blue-Star-Line
@Blue-Star-Line Ай бұрын
This is not a game. It is an animation made with love, care and respect.
@jenturner5638
@jenturner5638 Ай бұрын
@@Blue-Star-Line Got it good animation man
@Marci998
@Marci998 Ай бұрын
For commemorate this disaster, I 3d printed a model of MS Estonia
@Blue-Star-Line
@Blue-Star-Line Ай бұрын
Very cool!
@cindyirizarry5767
@cindyirizarry5767 Ай бұрын
Today is a the first time i heard of this tragedy 💔
@Tseburator
@Tseburator Ай бұрын
kzbin.info/www/bejne/bqWpeamOaZeKiKM found some old VHS tape at home about Estonia
@Victor-uj1dz
@Victor-uj1dz Ай бұрын
😁😁😁😁
@MarinelAbadija
@MarinelAbadija Ай бұрын
2024
@martinkoitmae6655
@martinkoitmae6655 Ай бұрын
🇪🇪🇪🇪🕯️
@CustomChris
@CustomChris 5 күн бұрын
The Swedish gov is still trying to hide that they have scuttled this ship by accident with a submarine and don’t care about the loss of 852 souls. Humans are just a resource and that’s such a shame. May the Swedish will awake asap.
@li.gren.
@li.gren. Күн бұрын
LOL, such ridiculous stupidity. There's no proof whatsoever of any submarine skirmishes. But sure, keep telling yourself Estonia could have sailed on just fine on high speed against the wind in a storm with a huge hole in front.
@CustomChris
@CustomChris Күн бұрын
@@li.gren. Have a look on the latest photogrammetry. Huge hole on the starboard site 6x20m. It was slit open. The car ramp was closed at all times. When you don't know any details then please keep silent.
@li.gren.
@li.gren. Күн бұрын
@@CustomChris The car ramp wasn't closed at all times. But sure keep perpetuating that lie, but to what end? What do you gain from ignoring the facts and spreading misinformation? Feeling special?
@CustomChris
@CustomChris Күн бұрын
@@li.gren. It's misinformation to spread the result from the report.
@li.gren.
@li.gren. Күн бұрын
@@CustomChris lol at your erroneous and fantastical claim there was a 6×20 meter hole. "The hole in the hull was most likely caused by the vessel hitting the seabed, Rene Arikas, the director of the Estonian Safety Investigation Bureau, told a press conference in Tallinn, noting that its shape matched that of a rocky outcrop on the seafloor."
@GL____________69110
@GL____________69110 Ай бұрын
Hi, I'm G Lundström from Estonia. I have been studying the secrets of the Estonian state for 19 years. In 1994, the ferry Estonia was sunk with a bomb because it was learned that the police were waiting in Sweden. The business of the Estonian state is drug transit. In 1994, the cargo of the ferry Estonia was military equipment and drugs. Since I got drug transit from Estonia for my acquaintances, taxes went up and the economy went down. The Estonian state is to blame for the destruction of the ferry Estonia and they are covering it up as much as possible. Whole members of the Riigikogu and even the President of Estonia know all this. The Swedish state knows the right reason and the Finnish state knows the right reason. Its manifestation is a great miracle. Thank you, I hope you manage to make it public.
@daze00k
@daze00k Ай бұрын
Stop with these stupid conspiracy theories
@GL____________69110
@GL____________69110 Ай бұрын
Its the true!!!!
@mtlb2674
@mtlb2674 Ай бұрын
No, it is not true
@GL____________69110
@GL____________69110 Ай бұрын
@@mtlb2674 YES IT IS,I KNOW PERSONS WHO TOLD IT TO ME. AIN ALAR JUHANSON.
@GL____________69110
@GL____________69110 Ай бұрын
@@mtlb2674 AIN ALAR JUHANSON ONE WHO SURVIVE!!! THE WATER CAME IN UNDER THE CAR DECK!!!
@ArturKokars
@ArturKokars Ай бұрын
ehhh
@jaylay3453
@jaylay3453 Ай бұрын
Come on...Those car models did not exist early 90's. Crap.
@Blue-Star-Line
@Blue-Star-Line Ай бұрын
They are ALL based of 90s cars, actually. Get your facts right.
@jaylay3453
@jaylay3453 Ай бұрын
@@Blue-Star-Line Based....Well, they are all based on 1930's cars also. So thats about that.
@RoyaleFamilys
@RoyaleFamilys Ай бұрын
@jaylay3453 its animated
@jaylay3453
@jaylay3453 Ай бұрын
@@RoyaleFamilys No f***n shit. I was so sure there was 2004 Volvo V70 on year 1994.
@TheKingofTruth
@TheKingofTruth Ай бұрын
FAKE AND LIE, 😂😂😂😂😂
@FS-pz2rm
@FS-pz2rm Ай бұрын
Wtf?
@li.gren.
@li.gren. Күн бұрын
​@@FS-pz2rmThe King of truth knows that ships can't sink, it never happens. Oh, and that ferries can just go on business as usual after a huge hole opens up in front as they sail against the wind in a storm. Totes. /snarcasm
@midks
@midks Ай бұрын
30 years now.
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