The PiBoy XRS Is Finally Here But Is It Too Late For A New DIY Pi-Powered Hand-Held?

[@Alegzander1990]

At the 150$ mark, without a Raspberry Pi, that's way too expensive in today's handheld environment. No way this makes any sense right now.

[@krank23]

Agreed. It looks awesome, but not at that price point.

[@jeff15]

And.. if, you can even find a pi at msrp, not scalpers price $200+

[@Jucelegario]

I want something like this but for the MisTer.

[@murdock94]

That's my thoughts. I think I'd rather just buy a reasonably priced Anbernic or some such handheld.

[@Nobe_Oddy]

agree, if it was $100 I think it would be a okay deal.... but for $75 its an AMAZING DEAL..... so I'm not gettin it (well that and I use a SM4 with a different board that wouldn't fit)

[@phgodts]

Idk, this kind of product was awesome 4/5 years ago when we didn't have access to mid/high performance portable systems. Now with so many options in the market, it became obsolete

[@DiceRobo]

Yeah I think Rasberry PI as a emulation system is not really that practical anymore, the best use for them nowadays is as a arcade board since it has enough power to do alot of arcade stuff. But then again you can just throw a old desktop in one instead.

[@anthonykearney608]

@@DiceRobo or even if you want an sbc. there are far more powerful ones out these days than the pi4

[@arie1293]

I live near a Microcenter and they hardly ever show up these days. Like maybe a couple handfulls every few months or longer. Lots of picos and accessories but that's it. With availability of alternatives becoming more and more available and competively priced I worry about the future of the pi line.

[@michaelmonstar4276]

@@DiceRobo I would say it makes more sense to use one of the lighter RPis to emulate older games only, if you really want the old handheld formfactor as well. - I don't see the point of playing something more modern on a tiny screen anyway. I would want at least a Steam Deck for that (and I'm not even getting that one because I find the bezel too big), if I had to choose a portable device for more modern games that is.

[@samrogers8926]

After purchasing a Steam Deck I will never go back to something like this.

[@LoganE01]

crazy to think there isn't more cases like this....not just for the pi but for other SBCs

[@dub2536]

Agreed. 100% weird!

[@x7slim8x]

Yeah more focus on x86 SBCs would be nice. Some competition for these $1,000+ handhelds.

[@Ibiky_Stern]

I owe jetson nano for 3 years. And no1 make a project like nintendo switch (( it was rather powerful sbc, but only one team tried to do something. Pitty

[@NScherdin]

@@x7slim8x There have only been a handful of small x86 based SBCs that could be put in a handheld case and they just weren't powerful enough or popular enough to justify it. :( Yet, at least.

[@x7slim8x]

@@NScherdin exactly, but I see that market being ripe for the taking! Then release handheld shells for them and we can maybe come in under those crazy prices for the Aya Neo, OneXplayer, etc etc.

[@iam.jasonhoward]

Really sucks that this was delayed. Hopefully Experimental Pi will release a version that supports the CM4.

[@NeoTechni]

they should make one that uses the CM cartridge that the DMG case uses

[@ratykat]

It's a small detail, but I love how the rear shell looks like the back of a dmg with a cartridge in.

[@iblackfeathers]

as you have mentioned, the handheld gaming market has changed a lot the past two years. devices are more pocketable and polished now. those are big selling points. if i was able to get a raspberry pi for retail price, i would use it for something else related to computing. its supply issues has killed it for me in terms of gaming and other fun areas. due to its rarity, it is best use for useful work and automation and less as a toy because there are now better options for “toys”.

[@STakaYK4]

it really did get delayed quite the while great to see its out now

[@Sleth0theoriginal0]

Got a pi4 I've been sitting on for 2 years... with hdmi out, maybe this will finally be it's home! $150 isn't so bad on its own, but anyone without a pi is better off with an aya neo or steam deck by now

[@Steven64]

Finally! I've been visiting their website but said coming soon.

[@AED_001]

just seeing all those ports makes me happy

Amazing how much variety we have in the small handheld space right now. I'm waiting for my Miyoo Mini at the moment, which also looks incredibly powerful, especially at half the price of this case.

[@alucardnos13]

your eyes will pop out if you play more than 30 minutes in miyoo. it has only 2,8inch screen. This one has 3.5, which i find it also small. I believe that less than 5inches its not worth it

[@maciller8461]

@@alucardnos13 get that hate out your heart

[@michaelmonstar4276]

@@alucardnos13 That's what she said...

[@IRWPD]

Took a quick look at the prices of Raspberry Pi. Some people are selling them between $300.00 and $400.00. That's, crazy.

[@wulfyhowls1678]

Thank you for your work....i really enjoy your hands-on in depth look into different products and software....thank you for the entertainment i appreciate you eta

[@natevirtual]

Been waiting for your review for a while now as I got mine a few weeks ago!! Thanks for this! I hope the RPi 5 keeps the same form factor so as to make this device compatible.

[@Marctron]

Think this is great for us that have a spare pi laying around. I keep thinking about picking up a gen 1 gpi case for my zero w.

[@leonoliveira8652]

I can't wait for the Pi Boy Witch to come out.

[@AndrewAHayes]

For what you would pay for this + a Pi4 you might as well buy an X86 handheld!

[@wizzel22]

The Case is really nice, but let's face it: The Time for Pi-based Handhelds is over. High Power Consumption, Mediocre Screens and a boot-time straight outta hell. With the unavailability of Pi's it's the final nail in the coffin.

[@mutechannel13]

I agree with everyone in the comments. It is expensive as far as handhelds go. The odroid go super is a better handheld than these, but I bought one anyway. I have a DMG, so I wanted the XRS too. I am prolly going to sell them both in the future.

[@raleighcunningham2538]

Totally agreed. I got my Retroid Pocket 3 in the mail and I transferred everything from my DMG. loved that thing, but it just doesn't compare. The Retroid took me all of a few minutes of Android setup and app installation and I was up and running for less than what this XRS kit costs. Unfortunate timing all around for ExperimentalPi, I hope they can find another cool way to fill their niche with the tabletop arcade kits. I would buy a larger version of the one they currently have for pre-order

[@ericwatts7757]

How long did you wait for yours. Ive been waiting 2 weeks and still on order received 😬

[@raleighcunningham2538]

@@ericwatts7757 took about three weeks for me. The tracking number never updated once it left China though

[@ericwatts7757]

@@raleighcunningham2538 you mean in the shop app?

[@RealziesCuts]

Thank you for your ongoing commitment to covering all of the gaming device as possible 🏆🎮 It’s crazy how I have a Band-Aid on the same finger in almost the exact same place right now 😅

[@NIVO1972]

dual batteries rocks! now if that package could be dropped into a frame with a 6" screen and stereo speakers id buy a kit

[@kajurn791]

I like the kit, brings me back to when i wanted to DIY something like this a few years ago. 149.95 is a lot (though cheaper than what it would cost to DIY) and kinda makes this not worth buying it to me anymore given you can buy handheld devices for emulation for less than this + Pi 4 costs, still i can understand why it's that expensive. Would've liked to see a Pi 3B plate and adapter included for added compatibility, maybe a Pi 5 upgrade kit in the future. And a larger screen wouldn't hurt.

[@lcldiy6044]

It's too late to launch a PI product. The competition is fierce😆

[@stemdeckesupreme164]

I've got one of these and I'll admit it was expensive, But I wasn't really using my pi4 for anything before. I really enjoy it primarily because the form factor. It really does feel like a sideways DMG gameboy, and the feel of it just kinda makes playing retro games more enjoyable. My android handheld feels like a modern controller and it feels weird top try to play retro games on it. I also really like the upgradeability factor. I already swapped out the buttons for a set of original concave/convex indigo/violet snes ones. I can only imagine, especially since pi5 has been delayed till 2024, that we will be able to run dolphin and ps2 when it's time to upgrade to 5. I've also seen it said that experimentalpi has been looking into getting OLED screens sourced for future upgrades.

[@RixtronixLAB]

Well done, keep it up, thanks for sharing the video with us :)

[@Kikay0n]

Looks like a nomad. Very cool.

[@Mindereak]

Very cool unit, seems to be of good quality too, but at 150$ you can just buy a standalone handheld and leave your Pi alone.

[@Lothor001]

If people can even find a pi4. Its been out of stock for like a year now

[@jmr]

Wish I would have saw this before I bought the GPI case 2. This would be a better form factor for me and PI4 are way easier to get then CM4.

[@JudoGuy]

It looks fantastic but yeah, bit out of my price range without a raspberry pi

[@harleyn3089]

This looks like a big improvement over the PiBoy DMG. I honestly don't like my PiBoy DMG much at all. The cooling is terrible; there is basically a choice between leaf blower and overheating. Even passive cooling doesn't help, because it also has coil whine. On top of that, the controls are pretty mediocre. There's no way I'll pay $150 for this though, even though it looks like a better design than the PiBoy DMG.

[@michaelmonstar4276]

You were worried about an RPi 5 coming out in October 2022, but halfway 2023 there's no sign of that and the 4 is only just coming back in stock and to fairly normal prices. - Supposedly next year, though, but we'll see. - As for the formfactor... Yea, I worry it might change as well for existing cases that people want to keep using. But perhaps they'll keep it similar enough so it won't be a widespread issue.

[@craftymulligar]

I heard they make a lot of them. But I think they take care of top shelf costumers. Businesses that rely on them.

[@Watchandlearn91]

I can't imagine too many people buying this at that price considering how the handheld market has grown.

[@Sarge92]

in my opinion not only might it be too late for the piboy but if rpi does not get there proprities in order they might be at risk of being left behind by competitors who are ready to serve the market pi foundation has chosen not to serve when they decided to prioritise there industry partners

[@juzuvloke]

I thought about getting a switch modding it to run the stock ui and Android but even that doesn't make sense when you got the steam deck around!

[@Ness_and_Sonic]

In my opinion, they should have made it wider, shifted Start and Select over to the right side as C and Z or + and -, and placed a Home button next to Menu. This would have made it seem more natural for Sega Genesis, Atari Jaguar, Sega CD, Sega 32X, Sega Saturn, PC Engine/Turbo Grafix 16, and Nintendo 64 games while keeping a close to natural feel for other systems such as the NES, SNES, Game Boys, and PlayStation provided they edited the profiles for some systems to move start and select for 3 and 6 button systems when needed via core remapping. Example, using the as L2 and R2 on the Genesis and Nintendo 64 cores.

[@PPAChao]

If you could use this with other SBCs of that form factor (like the Rock Pi 4) this would be neat and, in a way, future-proof.

[@azispratama92]

love the project, sadly the price for the case and the raspberry 4 it self is to high here in Indonesia, i guess i'll aim for Anbernic or Ps Vita for retroemulation, also i already have the raspberry pi 3b with waveshare game hat in my retro consoles arsenals, thanks for the content ETA!

[@RoadRage810]

I have one coming but I also have a few spare Pi 4 around and a couple of Pi 4 gaming rigs setup. I just wanted something portable that I could take with me on trips that have me everything I had at home.

[@NScherdin]

You are the target market. :) Eg people with Pi 4s already that want to do something with it or upgrade/crossgrade to a new handheld case.

[@1232lesach]

Well its not really too late for one, just biggest downside is as cool as experimental Pi's handhelds are, the costs for the kit makes it very hard to justify anymore. As the Pi4 is expensive as is right now(140+), making it so you'd end up having to spend 300-400 or more on it all (adding in SD cards/etc too). When you can get some really nice retro handhelds for 150ish or less that dont really take much more than adding in SD card. The idea of Pi powered ones are so nice as I own a few myself, just they are sadly pi zero powered so cant do as much. Just cant see a reason to spend so much for a pi4 powered one when can say buy a new Anbernic RG353V/RG353VS/RG353P for like 140ish bucks that can play enough of the old retro console games that youd play on the two piboy handhelds without spending 300-400 bucks. Plus those 3 anbernic handhelds are android too, allowing people who arent as knowledgeable with linux based systems to easily emulate too (they are linux too as all 3 are dual OS). Plus android can slightly out emulate rasp Pis based on all experience I've seen. That's not even counting android phones themselves, even cheaper ones to a point, can do it all. Just those lack the built in buttons/feel/etc of a handheld device. If they weren't so high in costs, it'd really make them worth it but sadly their costs for the kits alone are usually so high that having to spend just as much for the rasp pi on top of SD cards, just makes it something that ends up very hard to do when for less than half of that total cost can get something that will usually play things just as well.

[@pgbollwerk]

A couple years ago, I would have been eager to buy one. But now that I have an Ayn Odin, this doesn’t appeal to me anymore. Nevertheless, I hope they are successful. They are a good company.

[@tomokig2655]

For me the price is simply too high - for this price you can get the Retroid Pocket 2+ or 3 (depending on the shipping and tax). And that is without the Pi... The biggest advantage is that it is based on the Pi with the biggest community in the background - so the system will get updates for a long time.

[@jonathanbutler6635]

I’m hoping the pi 5 has thunderbolt support and the same form factor. This would make it way easier to use and more compatible with new components. I know it would take a lot more programming but still.

[@wanamir6973]

I love the design!

[@Megatog615]

wish we had an x86 board we could put in this i'm really bored of ARM SBCs

[@adnerayala3409]

I wonder if this work with other single boards like orange pi etc...

[@allenfrisch]

Yes. Yes, it is too late. However... I am SUPER excited for the PiBoy Arcade unit from Experimental Pi that's due to come out next January! I have always wanted a Coleco Tabletop Arcade that could play a variety of classic arcade games.

[@labnine3362]

I'm really surprised we haven't seen a Chinese version of this Coleco type unit with a "Nintendo on a chip" emulating bootlegs of with misspelled NES games.

[@allenfrisch]

@@labnine3362 Manufacturers like Anbernic, Powkiddy, and others aren't very creative or nostalgic. The closest they get to what we enthusiasts want is to copy successful designs like the Switch, GBA, Vita, or PSP. Then they produce very minor iterations of hardware and the absolute minimum software upgrades from one device to the next. They're not bad devices, but they rarely ever innovate!

[@michaeldemers2716]

I have a DMG-01 with a Gameboy Advanced SP inside that only plays Gameboy and Gameboy Color I use in a Hyperboy. I have an series one GB Everdrive for it as well. It's really awesome. They have a new kit from Funny Playing I believe that puts a Gameboy Color in the DMG and they have screens that light up too if you wanted to go that route. I am playing Dragon Warrior I&II right now but it's also great for games like Burgertime Deluxe or Super Mario Land DX. The Hyperboy really gives it that Arcade feel.

[@Atalas5]

this would have been amazing two years ago, but now it is too high a price for the performance. I will keep this in mind, if a Pi 5 comes out, and it happens that it has the same form factor as a Pi 4. Wishful thinking, perhaps.

[@Chris-yc3mm]

Video idea if it has not already been suggested. With all of the items you tried and reviewed over the years, which have you kept and used and why? Essentially which have stood the test of time?

[@yadspi]

Just buy a Retroid 3. damn $150 without the Pi

[@dcknature]

Hurray!!! First comment and third 👍😉.

[@conzpiracy9382]

You CAN get more out of a cheaper handheld BUT, for a guy like me that has a Pi laying around, this, I think would be perfect for it. Price wise? On the other hand… maybe not.

[@peach4hubby69]

Dayum, looks almost as cool as the other one that is vertical and it has 2 joysticks instead of one.

[@Crushonius]

if the pi foundation does not pull its head out of its own a** and get the pi5 ready in the coming months it will be game over for the pi in general for close to two years now you rarely if ever could get a pi4 for anywhere close to retail price . and now its so old and so SLOOOOW the pi 5 better be on point we are talking at least double the performance or they are DONE

[@alexisramoncasado9441]

Thanks for the review, interesting.

[@sekazi]

I hope RetroFlag is working on something portable that uses a full size Pi4.

[@mohamedmostafamohamedmahbo5706]

Raspberry pi+this handheld You better get the steam deck

[@tamahagane6083]

Thanks for another outstanding review ETA. While this is a good form factor, I have found the quality of my PiBoy DMG to be iffy at best and wouldn’t buy this product as there are MANY other alternatives that are higher quality and more versatile than this would be. At a much lower cost, including the pi it might be an option. But not for me…

[@labnine3362]

I'm the target market for sure and to me this is an $80 item. I can't justify $150 with all the other similar projects I have going on. It looks like a huge upgrade to the RetroFlag GPI case (cramped controls for adult males). Hopefully, the price will come down in a few months. PS Too bad the D-Pad isn't something like the Retrocade Handheld. I can't stand those tiny cross-style D-Pads on my thumb.

[@dariuscurry7396]

Sorry Experimental Pi but that horse has left the born. This needed to come out 2 years ago.

[@Ibiky_Stern]

On the box picture looks between original gameboy, and a half of nds xD

[@RomanOnARiver]

How does this compare to the retroflag gpi 2 case? Can the USB c port at the bottom be used with a dock or dongle or is it power/charge only?

[@atobekeigo17]

oh wow this looks cool hope i can get this in my country

[@gabrielloos4509]

150 dollars for a shell and buttons... I was not expecting such a heafty price. I got the top of the line pi4 and i was hoping this was gonna be the new thing to give it new life. But thats an obsurd price

[@NScherdin]

You can make one for less? Not being snarky. If you can great, but I bet if you 3d print a case and roll your own PCB you wont do it for less.

[@georgemontanez4584]

@@NScherdin your defensiveness in the comments looks bad. The commenters made valid points: the price is high versus a retroid pocket 3, even before you consider the cost of the pi. Best of luck, hopefully enough people have a spare pi 4 and disposable income to make your bet pay off. I don't want to see any retro gaming product fail. We appreciate you trying to serve our community.

[@FlyLegy]

I wonder if this case do support older rpi iterations, like rpi 2 or rpi 3? From the video it seems like it uses the gpio pins for communication. The os and the hdmi adapter might be a different question...

[@bryman31]

pretty cool. sadly the introduction of the Miyoo Mini and its price point and fantasticness basically destroyed the chance of this being around long

[@skins4thewin]

Production is ramping up but prices aren't going down. Funny how that works eh?

[@DFXThomas]

To me, devices like this are being released way too late. A few years ago, I used to play all kinds of systems on my GPi case all the time. It was a neat little device with RetroPie, EmulationStation, etc. But since then, I switched to IPS modded original GameBoys and, more importantly, to FPGA based systems. I got an Analogue Pocket, an Nt Mini Noir and a Super Nt. I am not going back to RetroPie any time soon.

[@anthonykearney608]

i dont have any fpga systems. but i have a few anbernics. retroid pocket 3, odin on order. and a steamdeck

[@labnine3362]

Can't wait to get the Analogue Pocket. Ordered it last Christmas. Looks to me to be the ultimate handheld retro device. Don't tell my Evercade I said that.

[@trbdann2]

really surprised this wouldn't use the Command Module instead. This was cool a few years ago, this is very clunky today ☹. Even if you already have the Pi, price is 😬😬

[@wolfmercer]

That looks awesome.can the OG ASUS TinkerBoard v1 fit and work in this? its the only thing i could get my hands on.

[@vincentj9794]

I am surprised they are attempting to sell the XRS with there being a PI shortage and the scalpers market. With the price of this and a Pi4 on the scalpers market you might as well just buy a higher end handheld.

[@joeymcjoeysalot6596]

Would be interested if thermal paste or pads would help temps out. But I'm also not going to buy it so there is that.

[@eskimolost2012]

Where can one get one?

[@FR4M3Sharma]

Seems like it can fit 3000MAH Li-Po cells in there. The batteries are quite small, slightly larger batteries would be easily installed, but I guess we'd need to have them custom made.

[@zackdreak1870]

Idea looks good and interesting, price and it doesn’t even have the main component to make it work is a ripoff.

[@Madblaster6]

I build a pi3 Boxy Pixel GB and I'm thinking about selling it. I never use it over the Steam Deck and AYN Odin.

[@scottamero7909]

Have you tried using a different img and getting the volume working right ?

[@DavidP089]

Why didn't you put thermal paste on the pi?

[@janniklaskramer1531]

Hey, I am watching your Videos for so Long. They Always helped me with my pie Problems or how to set everything up! I am from Germany and the price for the Gameboy ist roundabout 150€ but a total of 70€ shipping and i have to pay an import tax. Do you still have that PiBoy and want to Sepp it? Thanks for your Answer :P!

[@nate_d376]

I want one, however the price is way too high. I'll stick with my DMG. If those have L3 and R3 maybe in the future I'll pick one up, I have enough pi4's.

[@sakitoshi]

this looks pretty cool, but i'm really disappointed that there is only a single speaker. that's a deal breaker for me.

[@apollolux]

It would be groovy to see this in a 6-button layout a la Nomad instead of the 4-button layout a la GBA that pretty much everything has. Also a slightly larger screen if they're gonna charge this much.

[@delsings]

Wow those aesthetics, I love the look of it. I do have a question, did it handle Sega Saturn and Dreamcast emulation, and if so how well? I might need to get this for a true retro handheld unit (heck that I could apparently stream with, what with that hdmi out adapter!). Thanks for this video!

[@hendrickchan4650]

Dreamcast is decent. Saturn not so much.

[@minikoopa8692]

Is it only compatible with pi4?

[@harleyn3089]

The original PiBoy DMG was compatible with the Pi 4, 3, and Zero. Also works with the Pi Zero 2 W. Not sure about this one, but I'd be surprised if other Pis don't work in it.

[@alansmemoriesofnothingands8029]

This late it needs Oled

[@delsings]

I mean the delays were understandable, what with the supply chain issues and all. Especially for microchips for the longest time.

[@BF4pawntard]

Oled would make it way more expensive and utterly pointless.

[@joshleyes2169]

What did you think of HDMI output?

[@jasoncamacho4526]

I wonder if I can add the raspberry pi 5 instead? I think I might put the plate in reverse for the I/O since the Ethernet connection is on the reverse side. I'm trying if the micro HDMI connection is moved on the raspberry pi 5. If it's moved then the HDMI adapter will not work.

[@stevenlewis711]

Experimental Pi really let me down with their last hand held. I don't believe I would trust them again. It arrived with a broke sd card slot, the original board and the replacement board i got to fix the sd slot, both had drift in the joysticks in less then a week. I had issues with their software from day one and never got it working right even though i have built plenty of other builds. I spent all my time working on each new problem and no time playing it. Every time i fixed something, something else would have gone out or stopped working properly. The concept is cool but from my perspective they gave up and sold me a POS to get out from under their inventory. And by the time i gave up on it, it was to late to return and the drift is really bad so i cant play it.

[@singletona082]

the one flaw in this. Getting a pi4. One fifty plusshipping. Plus... what. fifty for the pi4?

[@Cyberbyte_010]

As long as the Pi Foundation is serving business customers over DIYers, and the water cooler talk of the Pi Foundation and Broadcom disagreements, this PiBoy is sadly a waste of money. The Devs should have just shelfed this.

[@roflBeck]

It uses the big Pi 4 B huh? Cool, I have one of those. It's just hooked up to one of my screens, with retropie installed. This is tempting, but for 150 I dunno...

[@experimentalpi3267]

Just think it as battery backup pi case and a nice show and tell piece ;-)

[@roflBeck]

Yeah, maybe. I'll sleep on it.

[@deadering]

Back when most reasonably priced handhelds had performance so bad they couldn't even run SNES reliably I really wanted a handheld formfactor for my pi 2. I've looked at doing a diy one many times over the years but sourcing all the parts was too expensive despite the cheap handhelds being cheaper than just the non pi parts. I would have been happy with the same cheap screens and buttons just with a pi inside. Sadly the only pi dedicated projects have always been too expensive for what they are. While this one looks awesome I just don't see the point over a comparably priced entire handheld vs this without even the pi included. I thought for sure when the pi zero was released we'd get a ton of cheap handhelds using it as a base but no... I specifically want a GBA with decent display and enough power for 2d ps1 but not for over $150 like the free play one. It doesn't seem like too much to ask, and indeed various companies have offered similar devices much cheaper, but I'd still like a diy kit for the gba shell and not pay way more than a whole device. Sorry for the rant, this one just hit close to home since I've dreamed about it for years.

[@BonJoviBeatlesLedZep]

There's really no need for anything like this in the market anymore. The handheld market has really accelerated within the past two years. You can just get a Retroid Pocket 3 or Ambernic or Ayn Odin now.

[@adhtdkcug]

Is the piboy xrs comparable to the retroid pocket 2.5/3? Can u compare these two in a video. Compare value for money.

[@adhtdkcug]

Thank you

[@ThePigeonStoop]

If you already own a Pi I think it's worth. If you don't own a Pi, holy shit this thing is expensive and not worth.

[@NScherdin]

This is for people who already have PI 4 boards and want to play around with the Pi. We could have delayed release till Pi prices came back down to retail but why wait till then when we know there are millions of Pi 4s already out in the wild. We safely assumed there would be thousands of potential customers even now. We aren't some fly by night that will disappear tomorrow so its an easy sell. Buy it now or wait and buy it later when you can get a Pi 4 and feel like tinkering. Those people that keep pointing out there are lots of cheap retro handhelds are right. There are. And if that was our target market we would be worried about sales. Our target market, however, is RPi people that like playing around with the Pi.

[@kimvelarde8421]

Any update to your latte panda alpha handheld build?

[@davejay6855]

They really should have done a GameBoy ADVANCE design for this and change their original PiBoy DMG to a compute4 Module instead of a full fledged Pi (look at the LCL CM4, it's amazing) as nobody needs, nor wants to see, an ethernet port sticking out of a GameBoy... ...the ONLY people who will want something like this are in it 90% for NOSTALGIA... and this is a brand new design, not a nostalgic throwback. The Experimental Pi PiBoy and LCL Pi GameBoy do so well because they're essentially a Carbon Copy design with extra buttons, a GameBoy Advance PiBoy would do just as well if not better, but THIS? This can't decide what it wants to be and does neither well, lowering an already low interest.