S600 First Look, This Tiny PC Has Worlds Fastest i9 Mobile CPU! Apex Engineer Hands On

This mini PC has the world's fastest mobile CPU!
In this video we take look at and test out the new Morefine Apex Engineer S600 mini pc powered by an Intel i9 12900HK CPU with 14 cores and 20 threads! This thing is blazing fast! We run some benchmarks and test some gaming and high-end emulation like Wii U Using CEMU, PS3 using Rpcs3 and Switch emulation using THIS.
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00:00 Introduction
00:31 Overview
01:26 io ports
02:01 internals
02:53 s00 Specs
03:25 overall window performance
05:03 PC Gaming Test
05:59 benchmarks
07:14 more pc gaming
07:54 Wii U Emulation Test
08:24 PS3 Emulation
08:52 THIS Switch Emulation
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[@dicebeatsofficial2525]

I think you should make a chart or spreadsheet ranking all these small pcs

[@Laurie_H]

Totally agree because showing benchmarks means nothing unless you have something to compare them to.

[@Watchandlearn91]

@Garrus Vakarian I think it's more that it's just the same thing every time. Another small form factor/single board PC and the same games/benchmarks.

[@Doobie3010]

Wouldnt work, because they are constantly changed depending on part the manufacturer has available.

[@aliessa4958]

agreed would definitely help find just the mini for you. looking for one with the lest amount of watt drawn for a plex server.but looking throw all the videoes :)

[@Ramucho25]

Like some people say, it would be nice to have some comparisons between different mini PC solutions, used CPU, iGPU and prices, srtorage, noise.... Thx for the video.

[@heavybass3286]

Love this channel keep up the great content.

[@chromerims]

Am impressed with both the power consumption and cooling they managed with this. Really makes one pause to consider the possibilities with this device. Thank you, Prime!

[@TomNook.]

Was going to say the same... if you're impressed by this, you'll be blown away by the 6800U which uses less than half the wattage and better quality

[@chromerims]

Thank you, beloved friends and neighbors.👍 I am neither team blue or red. E.g. also running a zen3 hedt as well. I am just curious about a range of potential use cases and applications. To each his or her own. With much appreciation and kindest regards.

[@chromerims]

@Garrus Vakarian a subset of potential small business use cases where elevated IOPs wanted and gpu less so, along w small footprint, replaceable psu, and not too noisy. Fondest regards, sir friend.

[@chromerims]

@Garrus Vakarian True. There is a wide array of content teams creating tech videos and written articles for KZbin and other platforms. For example, some of them will only touch tech products that are released and being actively produced and marketed and will not discuss putative future products a.k.a. vapor-ware. Meanwhile, other teams maintain a laser focus on news announcements and the big launch events (e.g. Coreteks, a stylistically distinct channel that I can get addicted to). Eta Prime is somewhere happily in the middle ground, if that is even possible. For those who must make a capital allocation decision right now, then yes, the comparative performance stats et al. take precedence and Eta won't be of use (instead go to Tom's H/W, AnandTech, etc., etc.). But for others who can allocate capital later down the road a bit (and for the dreamers and man-childs), Eta Prime is plain ol' good fun. Indeed, everything . . . it is all good fun. Or it should be. Yours.

[@awesomehigames]

@Garrus Vakarian he doesn't do direct comparisons because there's always something new and dude tests something everyday. If you want head to head just watch videos on the computers you're considering since he usually tests the same games and it shows fps, temps, and power consumption

[@mannkeithc]

This could be a great mini-PC, but I would rather Morefine replace one of the ethernet ports with two USB4.0 ports with thunderbolt support. That would further enhance the power and flexibility of this new mini-PC. You could still use one of the USB 4.0 ports with an adaptor to provide a second ethernet port if needed, plus you could also connect an eGPU or extremely fast external storage etc.

[@jacklowkey2571]

Thunderbolt and GPU can be connected externally, it has been announced

[@sarazar8218]

@@jacklowkey2571 Where was it announced?

[@IRWPD]

Seems like an awesome mini PC. Looking forward to seeing more on it.

[@jaywarren3505]

would love to see you start benchmarking a couple sim racing titles during your pc tests. i'd love to have a mini pc mounted directly to my monitor on my sim rig.

[@pmarker]

I was looking into buying an S600 but it has horrible reviews on its Indiegogo listing. Buyers are reporting that their S600 machines crash too often. Even worse is Morefine doesn't respond

[@FredrikSvensson1979]

Got myself one of these and here is my experience / advice: If mounting a 2.5" SSD use really thin headed screws or screws only on the side faceing the RAM. Otherwise you'll end up having the screws touching the capacitators on the opposite side, shorting something and making the computer unable to start. Very difficult to figure out yourself, but Morefine sseems aware of it since they solved it for me more or less straight away after contacting them. Be careful when removing the lid. It is very easy to accidently pull out the wires to the wifi module and they can be tricky to get back in place. the lid is also a very tight fit, it is easy ending up scratching the case trying to get it off and on. The "super silent fan" is not very silent at all. Original fan setting makes it quite loud but you can lower the standard working speed in the boot menu, making it a lot more quiet without really affecting idling temp. Still the fan very frequently maxes out when one or more cores gets a bit hot and it is annoyingly loud. This is my biggest disappointment so far. Morefine support is helpful and quick to respond. Shipping to Europe was reasonably quick and I somehow didn't have to pay imort duties and VAT. All in all I am happy with my purchase and would recommend it.

[@arbyc8736]

How did you get the lid off? I know you remove the two screws but it is still on tight as you stated.

[@FredrikSvensson1979]

@@arbyc8736 I dont have any smart advice here, I just ended up using force to pry it open. Try prying it open by inserting something thin, but hard, and twisting it a bit. Make sure its made of plastic or something else that wont scratch it. Also make sure you start prying in the back of the computer. Like I said before it's very easy accidentally pull out the wifi wires otherwise. Good luck, hope it owrks out.

[@arbyc8736]

@@FredrikSvensson1979 Thanks. He says the top plate comes right off: I wish he showed it in the video. I can't find any place to start prying. For now, I think I'll use the pci 3 nvme slot as the bottom looks easier to open.

[@FredrikSvensson1979]

@@arbyc8736 I remember now that i used a slim screwdriver to reach inside the holes for the screws and push upwards on the part of the lid that bends down to hold the screws.

[@arbyc8736]

@@FredrikSvensson1979 I found a video showing how to open it. He used a small suction cup to lift off the lid after removing the two screws.

[@MODem_sr.]

I've got a little question for ya. In the ingame Benchmarks in the top row the 96EUs is a overlay. What is there standig originally?

[@And-vx6ry]

Should have desktop gpu slot or extension of some type for desktop gpu then that maybe be better than buying laptops. Still cool to see high end intel mobile chips in a mini pc.

[@Mineav]

Would much rather have an AMD chip with integrated RDNA2 graphics.

[@AchwaqKhalid]

Homelabber and developers will prefer more cores 🥳🥳🥳

[@hksduhksdu]

Agreed. Their B550 model is so stupid that they only have one NVM.e slot, if we need to use eGPU, we need to buy their dock, that’s kinda dumb. I rather have just a cable coming out using the simple PCI dock that ETA Prime always tests with. If their B550 model has two NVM.e slots, I will probably get that one.

[@joelconolly5574]

For... Work?

[@christians.9028]

Let’s wait till end sept for some amd minis 😙

[@hksduhksdu]

@@joelconolly5574 for work but very occasionally do some non-competitive gaming

[@cv990a4]

It needs that edge connector that allows you to put it in a PCIe slot, the same as that Minisforum mini-PC. There's CPU power to burn, there needs to be a way to connect it to a bigtime GPU card and then you'll really be cooking.

[@MegaRyan123456]

Better if it just had a thunderbolt port

[@KingKevin108]

Could you please do a video of what each of the benchmarks show, and what scores are good or not? Throwing numbers is cool and all and I know big numbers generally = better, but some baselines would be great

[@BuzzaB77]

I'm thinking this might be a good unit for music production. I Don't need the graphics , and every studio I go to I just plug my laptop into a screen anyway.

[@BuzzaB77]

Edit; to anyone reading, my hand was forced when my laptop just died. I ended up going with the hx90 and it's doing great

[@nolanmods7172]

Does it have thunderbolt 4? I would like to see this with an external RTX3060 or something like it.

[@xhancexd]

I wonder if you have heard about the "Lossless Scale" app, enables FSR on unsupported games, I wonder if you could Try using this on a systems like this which only uses igpu's

[@Bajicoy]

It is a shame that these mini pc are not compared against one another. I would like to see the performance difference between this and a TH50 and Asrock Nuc Box 1260P and a HX90 for good measure

[@hassosigbjoernson5738]

Aren't there figures, benchmarks and fps shown in many videos? It would be easy to rewatch an older video and compare these figures.

[@Bajicoy]

@@hassosigbjoernson5738 that expects me to do work lol

[@Leo_Vulkan]

Would be great to see a video tunning the cpu, because there are laptops with that cpu reaching almost 18k in R23

[@FelixGaunt]

I got a response from Morefine and there are no plans to add TB4 to this in the future. This perplexes me immensely...

[@marianoruiz9039]

CPU benchmarks are the same as the 1260P from the Wall Street Canyon NUC. The WSC NUC has a lower consumption and a Thunderbolt 4. Would be interesting if you can run the benchmarks again at a higher wattage, if possible.

[@milescarter7803]

I have some questions on disabling the E cores boosting the ring bus speed and would that improve graphics performance. Also using that extra power and thermal headroom for the P cores and GPU.

[@kostanomi]

Looks good! How does it compare to the minisforum nuc i7 for gaming?

[@yoskaldyr]

Great review as always. But why did you say nothing about fan noise? Fan noise on idle/under load is one of important metrics of mini pcs.

[@I86282]

Seems criminal not to have a thunderbolt 4 port.! But otherwise pretty badass.!!

[@nayyarrashid4661]

For a second I thought you said usb 4.0.

[@kajurn791]

Not worth buying at all for gaming, this'll be a beast for any CPU workload that benefits from more threads though. I imagine compiling code will be great on this, though i feel like it will throttle given the low amount of thermal mass on that cooler.

[@Bajicoy]

It depends on the cost and use. For someone looking for a powerful work and gaming computer there isn't anything else better at this size.

[@arbyc8736]

@@Bajicoy I was amazed that the size and weight is nearly the same as a standard 750 watt power supply.

[@DOMINIQUEHERROD]

GOOD GOD I NEED ONE !!!!!

[@TharcioSantana]

I would definitely watch a video of Mr. ETA testing if this 3DMark estimated game performance is trustworthy hehehe

[@warwagon]

Do you disable that animated wallpaper before testing starts?

[@davidkachel]

Looked at their website. VERY EXPENSIVE, even on sale, for a brand that I never in my life heard of, until I happened across this video, and I have been looking pretty hard!! None on Amazon says a lot, also.

[@W4TRI]

Any range of price? I don't do kickstarter/indiegogo ever for any reason so....

[@denvera1g1]

6900HS please morefine, and could you find the space to have 2 full sized desktop dimms or use LPDDR5 6400 with good timings?

[@jefffersonandoloko]

For your next project eta prime Dell Precision 3660 transformed into gaming an office PC that quite powerful

[@exxor9108]

For some of those games, the memory speed is what's holding the iGPU back.

[@oscarespinoza182]

This would help a lot! Can ETA Prime please create this or have a community sheet where we can compare across all of these mini's?

[@nikkismith8750]

Very tempting, but I'm going to wait for a Ryzen 6000 mini PC

[@srjuanjo]

I couldn’t wait! , I just bought the ryzen 5900hx

[@madsdgdhg]

And the Ryzen 6000 series mini PCs are nowhere to be seen. PS: great review as usual. 👌

[@blowncold1]

Hey ETA way to go with yuzu and dolphin coverage. How about using "descriptive" terms such as "plumber siblings" or "Lady Farts" (LOZ: Windwaker), maybe even 150cc go carts.

[@playerongaming]

Intel done amazing job with CPU's. If we add a E-GPU like 3090/80/70 then this totally a Full powered Gaming PC

[@bishop912]

There's no thunderbolt 4 port on it. It's really disappointing.

[@playerongaming]

@@bishop912 Yes

[@SeleAsuka]

What a beast haha.

[@followwebxd458]

I am new to emulation related things and don't understand why the last part is blurred out, could anyone please tell me?

[@agnelodearaujo7413]

It would be nice to see if it's able to run an eGPU.

[@akashicwiseman9285]

the game controller you are using.. which one was it?

[@anorinifx]

If u add an e-gpu, this will be an absolute beast machine

[@anorinifx]

@n n ah i see

[@FelixGaunt]

Talk about spiking the ball on the goal-line. lol No TB4....truly mind-boggling.

[@whateverittakes9000]

which keyboard is there in the background with yellow, grey and white keys?

[@bhok5228]

15% cpu usage 83 celsius..........dont seems very healthy

[@chrisgoodemote5576]

The cpu is great now give us a gpu that can help it hit 2k on high settings because gaming performance generally is gpu based and not cpu based so to hit the best frame rates we need a better gpu to get the most put of these mini pcs

[@BeardedPharmacist]

How many of these mini PC's are there?

[@MegaRyan123456]

Thunderbolt port would have made it perfection

[@MusicHavenSG]

If it comes with a RTX 3050 in that form factor that would be great.

[@theshoemaker1]

What's the point of latest CPU along with outdated DDR4 while it supports DDR5?

[@bobs.9375]

Where do you get your backgrounds?

[@stanthompson1010]

Was the blurred out game - Link’s Awakening?

[@scudsturm1]

u may want to test this beast against the deskmini or deskmeet with a 5700g inside

[@scudsturm1]

maybe with a navi 2 680M in the comparison aswell

[@raulvazquez9220]

So which is better the morefine or the beelink ser5 ?!? I’m stuck between the two. I want to be able to play up PS3

[@timothyneiswander3151]

Pretty cool but how well does it play Stray?

[@patroncarbon9796]

What is the price of the mini pc used in the video?

[@benjiebarker]

Does it have those m.2 ports for egpu?

[@milescarter7803]

The china sellers love ETA prime, he makes them such professional videos.

[@JW02828]

May you show us how to upgrade the memory

[@shamelfuller]

test this baby out with a e-GPU!

[@SB-pf5rc]

take a drink every time you hear 'this thing'

[@SeraphEvenstar9999]

What is the price of this bad-boy? Couldn't find one on the Indiegogo site.

[@Schattiz]

Why did you blur out Yuzu?

[@kukuyoutube4572]

Hi! How i can change the memory voltage?

[@PabstOban]

What is that animated background thing you are running there?

[@chasonlapointe]

It's Cyberpunk Samurai on wallpaper engine.

[@J0ermungand]

Hmm, I wonder how it does in gaming with an RX 6400 attached to that PCIe4 M.2 slot.

[@Zafiria]

not putting a thunderbolt usbc is a missed opportunity

[@Crazy_Comedy_0024]

damn tNice tutorials felt like i learned a new language or programming.

[@kurok1tenshi]

This lil buddy needs a V2 with USB4 to be able to attach an external GPU.

[@kikeledesma1519]

What is the noise level?

[@lambo-nut3793]

So where can this be purchased?

[@bzzerc]

compare this unit to the Ryzen 7 6800u with rdna 2 graphics really interested in how rdna 2 graphics compare to the UHD graphics in this unit

[@bthegawd8113]

Intel graphics is terrible. That’s all you need to know.

[@mingyi456]

Not exactly uhd graphics, but 96 eus of xe graphics.

[@srvuk]

Nice but that does drink a lot of electricity for what you are getting, which doesn't seem to be that much of a performance increase.

[@MOREFINE]

September 20th event starts soon...

[@fourex59]

Could you tell me if this mini pc supports virtualization?

[@shephusted2714]

we will have much more powerful cpu in minis very soon which makes this shady and ready for a price drop even before it is out of beta - basically accurate

[@arbyc8736]

There will always be something coming out that will be faster.

[@krupkeben]

👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍

[@bakakafka4428]

Shame there's no thunderbolt for external gpu

[@johnpp21]

is it possible to plugin external gpu?

[@scudsturm1]

that game in yuzu was obviously minesweeper with a big fish and some odd nightmares

[@ETAPRIME]

😂

[@wsmcke]

Needs a Thunderbolt 4 connector, for eGPU.

[@iamjimbodini]

No thunderbolt on an Intel NUC? Ugh... That's a tough sell.

[@FelixGaunt]

How does this not have thunderbolt 4? 🤯

[@RaffyART1995]

What keyboard od you use man?

[@_eraserhead_]

NuPhy - Air75 Wireless Mechanical Keyboard

[@gameguy7351]

Can i5 8250 with uhd 620 Handel pcsx2 emulator games lik god of war 1 & 2

[@arceriberarembertoliver3365]

Have Thunderbolt 3/4 ?

[@smg4gaming-poppyfromdreamw136]

Stray, Saints Row, Days Gone, Monster Hunter Rise and Forza? 🥧

[@kikeledesma1519]

Morefine S600 i7 vs Intel NUC 12 Pro i7, which is better?

[@teddym2808]

13026 is incredibly low for a 12900HK. Terrible. I get higher than that in my Legion 7i, 2021 model with 11800H! Alienware 15" laptop gets 17K. Well cooled 17" laptops get 19K ish.

[@BuzzaB77]

interesting. at what wattages though? this can't be thermal throttling at 86deg, its gotta be power right?

[@christophermullins7163]

Wonder if it's the 3200mh ram..

[@teddym2808]

@@BuzzaB77 Yes it's power limit throttling. Though.. if it's 86 deg at 65 watts then the cooling solution would not be able to handle much more

[@teddym2808]

@@christophermullins7163 Of course not, I am running 3200 here and it has been proven that even for 12th gen, the difference is like 1 or 2% and can swing either way. DDR5 is a gimmick at this stage.

[@milescarter7803]

'they used all the space for heatsink' Me: 'oh good, will have a nice heatsink' /Takes off cover/ Heatsink: Tiny Me: 😢 Needs at least 40mm height 5 pipe cooler, not 30mm 2 pipe cooler. Maybe even a vacuum chamber with 3 sets of fins. I will be very surprised if the 12600 or 12400 version of this doesn't post the same numbers. Save the money from i7 mobile, put in i5 Desktop = profit. Only problem is you can't explain to people that the i7 in a mobile is just to get people to buy it. It never has enough cooling to make it faster than the i5 version.

[@ExPsycHo]

Can play a 4k h265 remux movie with kodi? thanks for your videos 👍

[@heyndre]

Please Run 12900HK With ADT Link M.2 Gpu Dock 🔥🔥

[@_________-__________-_______]

can you use an external gpu ?

[@greendragon4165]

It will not burn with such a temperature in games?👀

[@GooseDaPlaymaker]

No TB4 port, huh? And GPU prices hitting an all-time low and a mini PC with a 12900HK, nevertheless...what a shame.

[@prashantbiswakarma1144]

Last request find and try ryzen3 4300u

[@torpedospurs]

This or the Beelink GTR6 6900HX?

[@zodiacfml]

nice but overkill CPU. I'd like something a more powerful iGPU like from AMD

[@guilherme5094]

👍

[@doge_guy]

so.... 6 p cores and and 8 e cores?

[@dnldesanderespeitado6415]

Can you upgrade an external video card on it? Please answer me!

[@dnldesanderespeitado6415]

Alguém pode me responder?

[@TheBobrovskij]

@@dnldesanderespeitado6415 yes

[@marcomorales3641]

No thunderbolt : ( extremely disappointing I cant comprehend having a 12900H or HK and not wanting access to that.

[@leonidas14775]

Is it supposed to sound like "Morphine"? That would be an odd name for a computer.