Eternity Is Here Now

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Rupert Spira

Rupert Spira

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In this discussion about time and continuity, we explore how it is possible that eternity is here now, why the mind will never be able to grasp the concept of eternity and what is meant by the mystical death. Like the moth dancing dangerously close to the flame this exploration of time brings us to the edge of the limitations of the mind and closer to the experience of eternity.
Rupert explains that the now has two meanings: from the perspective of awareness the now is eternity whereas from the point of view of the mind the now is a moment. What the mind calls continuity is, in fact, eternity or the ever-present. The mind adds its own assumptions to eternity and then stretches it out in time and therefore it speaks of permanence or continuity. There is a hint of truth in the idea of permanence or continuity but those ideas are truth filtered through the limitations of the mind.
In exploring this your mind has taken itself to a limit and it knows that it hasn't quite reached the understanding that it wants to reach. It has an intuition of it but it can't get past the idea of continuity into eternity. To make the transition from continuity to eternity the mind must be divested of its limitations. The mind must cease.
At some stage, the mind gets tired of this dance and says I want to experience eternity or love. And that gives you the courage to let go of the mind.
0:00 What Is The Experience Of Time?
1:03 What Is The Now?
2:12 How Time Is Perceived?
2:46 Eternity Is Here
6:10 Limitations Of The Mind
7:08 Dying Before We Die
7:50 When The Mind Ends We Visit Eternity
8:30 The Mystical Death
This clip was taken from one of Rupert's weekly webinars.
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@jorgetfreitas3167
@jorgetfreitas3167 Жыл бұрын
Rupert is like a bright sun in the dark world of my mind. He enlightens my understanding with his wise words Thank you Rupert my brother, friend and teacher.
@I-Am-Aware
@I-Am-Aware Жыл бұрын
You've stated that so beautifully. I feel the same for our dear brother and divine guide.
@omramana
@omramana Жыл бұрын
Good Lord dear Rupert. Every word you say pushes me ever so close to that precipice. Your words linger about me like a fragrance and deepens my yearning and sharpens my quest. Thank you my dear, my friend, my teacher.
@hereisalfi
@hereisalfi Жыл бұрын
Gratitude ❤
@TokyoDining
@TokyoDining Жыл бұрын
They really should teach this stuff in schools
@consciousnessbasedcosmos
@consciousnessbasedcosmos Жыл бұрын
If there is only consciousness, it must follow that time, space and matter are not physically real but mere appearance in consciousness. Appearance in consciousness is always now. It appears then disappears, then reappears. It is not continuous. It is discrete. The world appears continuous because this happens at a very fast rate like the continuity we see in videos or movies. Imagine a world appearing and disappearing but there is no change at all. Time will be redundant, not needed. The idea of time is needed when there is change in what appears in consciousness.
@ratuv_YT
@ratuv_YT Жыл бұрын
The best explanation of NOW (not time). It took me a long time to understand. NOW remains constant, and appearances (objects) change. We are not the object. Analogy - The TV screen remains the same, but the pictures/ images change.
@robertusky
@robertusky Жыл бұрын
Could it be that we are all the same person or being. My dog is me, and I am my dog, but we are in a different time frame within consciousness. We are likely the same being but in a different mathematical position. I also think that we are here as a medium for consciousness to collect information. Consciousness learns using mediums that collect digital information. Once we die, we immediately become a new medium once again until we die again, and we continue like that forever. Our next life experience might be very similar to this one because it uses the information we already collected. I think that my dog, my cat, a polar bear my mom, my neighbor, my brother, etc.. are all the same being, and they are all me, and I am them. I think that the information collected by consciousness, through me, is unique as no one will ever be able to experience what I saw or experience due to my unique mathematical physical position in the universe. So we are all unique in a way. I think consciousness learns from infinite amounts of eyes from infinite amounts of beings in unique awareness positions.
@debbiedebbie6026
@debbiedebbie6026 Жыл бұрын
Always brings tears of relief, that Rupert ❤
@atmannityananda-autognosia
@atmannityananda-autognosia Жыл бұрын
There is no question of one realising Brahman without a mind; realisation is possible only if there is a mind; - Ramana Maharshi Therefore we say that the Self-Realised Sage knows by his mind, but his mind is pure. Again we say that the vibrating mind is impure and the placid mind is pure. The pure mind is itself Brahman; therefore it follows that Brahman is not other than the mind of the sage. - Ramana Maharshi
@dennisharvey8287
@dennisharvey8287 Жыл бұрын
Really engaged by these conceptual beliefs if that's what they amount to. Reminds me of the Dao's statement that "you cannot know it but you can be it", which I frame as the mind conceptually being limited in trying to know the "flame" but it cannot be it, because once it does ...it meets the same fate as the moth...thanks so much Rupert.
@skyotter3317
@skyotter3317 Жыл бұрын
I am the flame! Thank you, Rupert!
@simonhitchenk9
@simonhitchenk9 Жыл бұрын
This comes at a perfect time for me. I find myself overwhelmed on occasion with the thought of eternity, but that is from the perspective of the limited mind. As ever so exquisitely explained by Rupert. Many thanks for sharing your wisdom 🙏
@nikkifrye7599
@nikkifrye7599 Жыл бұрын
Continuity of time and the ever present now. The moth and the flame. King Laird and John Smith. Incredible. The examples given to bring clarity. The mind is struggling, so hard to grasp, but it is only when the mine. Just stops and gets lost in silence that The light shines! Thank you, Rupert. ❤❤️‍🔥❤️‍🔥☀️ 11:38
@atmannityananda-autognosia
@atmannityananda-autognosia Жыл бұрын
No experience is possible without mind. Consciousness cannot experience itself without mind. Thus, in experiencing eternity (Consciousness) the mind loses its form state and assumes its formless state. And indeed, when mind merges into Consciousness, it acquires the nature of Consciousness itself and becomes luminous as Consciousness itself. Pure Mind is Brahman itself - Ramana Maharshi
@tammylewis9324
@tammylewis9324 Жыл бұрын
When I first began to try to understand the fact that time is an illusion I was sitting in meditation and higher self said “There are no ancient civilizations”.
@tarunnarang9701
@tarunnarang9701 2 ай бұрын
It’s all memories which gives the illusion of time
@tarunnarang9701
@tarunnarang9701 2 ай бұрын
Deeply embedded memories that we consider reality. Our mind is the collective mind. Just because everyone agrees with it we have accepted it as fact
@joy-yd4jf
@joy-yd4jf Жыл бұрын
Love you Rupert , thank you 💜💜
@tonynes3577
@tonynes3577 Жыл бұрын
A bit difficult to understand. But I like listening to Rupert.
@copyninja8756
@copyninja8756 Жыл бұрын
Thank you 🙏
@asphalthedgehog6580
@asphalthedgehog6580 Жыл бұрын
What I found surprising was an explanation I found on YT. Suppose we are 2-dimensional beings, living on the X&Y axis. We would move through space along the Z-axis, without experiencing it. However this Z-axis exists over its full length all the time, but we are not aware of it, we only know the current position we're in.
@I-Am-Aware
@I-Am-Aware Жыл бұрын
Thank you, dear Rupert, for another wonderful video. How indebted I feel to you, for helping "me" to recognize true Self. It seemed a long "apparent" journey, from the ignorant assumption that I was a "person" to knowing that I am actually Life eternal. Bless you and keep you. 🙏🏻🧡
@fhl60
@fhl60 Жыл бұрын
Brilliant! Thank you! 💕
@michaelbuhlmann6167
@michaelbuhlmann6167 Жыл бұрын
Very Excellent ❤️🙏❤️
@pilargarcia6724
@pilargarcia6724 Жыл бұрын
Interesantísimo!!! De mucha ayuda!!! Muchísimas gracias!!!❤🙏😃
@JonasAnandaKristiansson
@JonasAnandaKristiansson Жыл бұрын
So utterly beautiful. Poetry to "my" Being
@AzadehHeidariMoghadam
@AzadehHeidariMoghadam Жыл бұрын
This was wonderful! Thank you, Rupert.
@stemcleeds
@stemcleeds Жыл бұрын
My mind wishes that it was more powerful to understand Rupert better. Thank you for your continued effort to enlighten us.
@jillianfleer4039
@jillianfleer4039 Жыл бұрын
My approach to this is: Relax my mind or the unconscious and Consciousness, Rupert’s felt understanding/Reality will shine strongly in your experience.
@stemcleeds
@stemcleeds Жыл бұрын
Thank you friends. It's a journey.
@1Sparrow1
@1Sparrow1 Жыл бұрын
@@stemcleeds The mind makes it a journey. However, when the mind becomes aware of it's own limitation this understanding or insight is instantaneous and outside of time. When the mind through awareness sees it's own limitation it becomes silent without any effort. Then the "journey" or thought has come to an end. Then thought can operate when needed all the while being aware of what it can do and what it cannot do. Hope this helps.
@LifeDeathandStuff
@LifeDeathandStuff Жыл бұрын
That was amazing!!
@jmseipp
@jmseipp Жыл бұрын
The mind is trying so hard to figure it all out. I know someone who has been doing TM, Transcendental Meditation, for over a half century, and did the Gurdjief work for many years, is a Tibetan Buddhist, a Taoist, a teacher of A Course in Miracles, a minister and is now seriously studying the Bhagavad-Gita, owns thousands of books, many of them on Eastern Philosophy, has been in psychotherapy for most of their adult life and is suicidally depressed and has been their entire life. This person has never had any sort of Satori experience or simply deeply relaxed into the moment. This is the price one pays for being so cerebral and wanting to figure it all out with their mind. This can go on literally for decades! A good question to ask would be “Who or what wants to know?” Watch that too! It is all MIND!
@sherrybutts5947
@sherrybutts5947 Жыл бұрын
“NOW” the serpent was the most subtle creature or thing in the field
@GeorgetaBlanaru
@GeorgetaBlanaru Жыл бұрын
Thank you for clarifying this! ❤
@SanataniJoe
@SanataniJoe Жыл бұрын
It all becomes the mental gymnastics 🤸‍♀️, isn’t it? It doesn’t matter how long or how many times you explain that sugar is this sweet, that sweet, unless you taste the sugar you will never know the sweetness of the sugar. So unless you walk in the path you won’t know anything
@Rbrt0
@Rbrt0 Жыл бұрын
You won't know that you know
@SanataniJoe
@SanataniJoe Жыл бұрын
@@Rbrt0 😂
@grntvjn4452
@grntvjn4452 Жыл бұрын
@@Rbrt0 I've forgotten what I've forgotten, so I feel I know it all. And damn sure about it! 😂
@JonasAnandaKristiansson
@JonasAnandaKristiansson Жыл бұрын
It is not, and there is no mental gymnastics.. Who makes that idea and believe in it? Your or "the person"/someone? It is pure, it is poetry in motion without trying to be a poet, being expressed in, as and through Rupert, and "others" who've "come Home". There is no path, there is no door to knock on. Thy Kingdom Is Here/The Kingdom of Heaven Is/Exists Within
@Axito2
@Axito2 Жыл бұрын
Perfect !
@sunisagotirat1332
@sunisagotirat1332 Жыл бұрын
Wow 🙏🙏🙏💝
@lookmagazine2667
@lookmagazine2667 Жыл бұрын
If everything is change, then that change must be relative to something still. Zero. Ground. Just like all numbers are ultimately relative to 0. If something is still, it is unchanging and therefore not in time. Time, energy, space, activity, happening, experience….these are all just synonyms of change and change can only be known through memory ie. Mind.
@moonglow6639
@moonglow6639 Жыл бұрын
Only the now is real, everything else is a mental construct.
@TheHmmka
@TheHmmka Жыл бұрын
🍀
@carlosceriol1261
@carlosceriol1261 Жыл бұрын
If we live in eternity, why does the body age? Why do stars "born" and "die"?
@mikefoster5277
@mikefoster5277 Жыл бұрын
Yes, eternity must be here and now. But can eternity ever be experienced? Doesn't the very meaning of experience imply duality - the experiencer and the experienced? Perhaps God can only taste or experience itself _through_ this dualistic, time bound creation? The eternal divine dance?
@DeezeTheMACMAN
@DeezeTheMACMAN Жыл бұрын
🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽
@ajsalonius8455
@ajsalonius8455 Жыл бұрын
I want my dog back. He is gone. I want him here. I want him now
@klbat41
@klbat41 Жыл бұрын
RUPERT, DO U BELIEVE THAT MY INNER WORLD ( COLORS, SHAPES, FORMS, PICTURES, ETC.) COULD BE AS DIFFERENT AS YOUR INNER WORLD AS THE COLOR WHITE IS TO THE COLOR BLACK?
@ayeam5822
@ayeam5822 Жыл бұрын
We (awareness) will not KNOW OUR death just as we have not KNOWN our birth; This is because they do not HAPPEN to us. We are that which takes possession and gives animation to this vehicle. just because one drives a car it does not imply that one MADE the car. Simply enjoy the journey in the KNOWING that YOU are the driver and NOT the car. 🙏
@ayeam5822
@ayeam5822 Жыл бұрын
@@usr909 🙂 as you wish. 🙏
@ayeam5822
@ayeam5822 Жыл бұрын
@@usr909 after 2-3 years the conditions, limits and fear have taken root. Before this we simply KNOW that we ARE. come back to this state my friend if only for the wellness of your BEING. 🙏
@ayeam5822
@ayeam5822 Жыл бұрын
@@usr909 THIS is the moment my friend, your SELF has revealed itself through IGNORANCE. It is NOW that this SELF of yours comes back to YOU and dissolves at its SOURCE. A truly blessed moment. Take advantage my dear friend, take advantage of this. 🙂🙏
@ayeam5822
@ayeam5822 Жыл бұрын
@@usr909 Not forwards, not backwards, not sideways, go INWARD brethren. BE happy IN thy KNOWN self. To converse with you any further at this point would be the EXACT same as taking notes from one that is sleep talking 🤷‍♀ 🙂. Journey well and BE well my friend. Ohm🙏
@dba4292
@dba4292 Жыл бұрын
So the death of the body (that never is, but you can still use it so I guess it actually IS here then) also happens in the eternal now? When the body goes I’m still here in a green recliner with the TV on writing this on my phone? Some of us might already be dead then too just not knowing it? Just living in a sort of purgatory until info like this liberates us? And if eternity is here now with a body how can it also be somewhere else when the body goes. This moment can not be eternity it’s duality.
@simonc772
@simonc772 Жыл бұрын
The fact he said no to her says that he is still dual
@JonasAnandaKristiansson
@JonasAnandaKristiansson Жыл бұрын
No...
@anthonykology1728
@anthonykology1728 Жыл бұрын
the night of the dark soul...?
@balvenie55
@balvenie55 Жыл бұрын
How does this explain the ageing process. How can we grow old in a permanent state of now?
@Johnny_Zoom
@Johnny_Zoom 5 ай бұрын
Because aging has nothing to do with the now and time. We are in the now no matter what.
@johnwat7825
@johnwat7825 Жыл бұрын
Kronos is linear time. Kairos is a state of mind, that either is, or is not (present or not present)!.
@ravishing4533
@ravishing4533 Жыл бұрын
❤️ die to flesh
@robinaguenkel7534
@robinaguenkel7534 Жыл бұрын
👍🇩🇪
@joajoajb
@joajoajb Жыл бұрын
This will again sound like a party pooper to those who feel that Rupert has something sincere and genuine to share concerning Reality or Existence Itself. He really doesn't. What is happening here is really nothing more than Consciousness deceiving Itself. Sounds harsh?. Let's together look at what Rupert's model of Reality has been suggesting and see how it amounts to just that. Consciousness deceiving Itself. Some may think they agree with Rupert and his model of Reality. Most likely that is due to misunderstanding what Rupert's model of Reality really is about and what it really suggests. Actually, his model of Reality is nothing new, it's an old model of religious ideology wrapped under different labels. Allow me to make a few points here solely based on everything spoken directly by Rupert himself. If, anyone believes that, life is not already predetermined, then, you don't really believe what Rupert believes . There's a book metaphor Rupert used to use to show what he really believes about Reality and Existence. The metaphor says, all the pages, all the chapters and the stories are already all there, but, a finite mind can only read one page at a time. He no longer uses the metaphor. Not sure if he still believes that or not. That belief could most likely defeat the purpose of his talks. And, Rupert has always claimed that , everything that is ever known, is known by Consciousness and Consciousness alone. Simply because, Consciousness is the only one that can know. But, he then again claims, not only Consciousness knows, but, something called a finite mind also knows and experiences. And what the finite mind knows, Consciousness doesn't know, and what Consciousness knows, finite mind doesn't know. Very strange and Very convenient. Now, he can have the cake and eat it too. This allows Consciousness to deceive Itself, creating further splits in its own Psyche to split praises and blames. Which implies Two separate Realities or Existence. One that can be praised, and one that can be blamed. It's a form of Self deception. Consciousness deceiving Itself. Rupert would claim that All activities of life are activities of Consciousness and Consciousness alone. But, somehow, when it comes to all the sufferings of all life forms, Consciousness has nothing to do with it , all blames go to either finite minds, beliefs in separate self or the cultures. He claims Consciousness couldn't be the one causing all the pains and sufferings, after repeatly claiming that all activities are activities of Consciousness and Consciousness alone. This amounts to nothing more than, extreme madness and insanity. He again does the same thing in this presentation, blaming the finite mind for not understanding Eternity. It's like a man who puts on a costume, goes out, commits gruesome massacres and atrocities, and always ends up blaming the costume but never himself. Not, only this man is mad and insane but, truly sick. He needs to stop deceiving himself and start investigating his own psyche. This insane religious ideology is nothing new. This has been preached to humanity by many fanatical religious mystics and their followers for many, many centuries. The message is God is all great, all good and all loving, therefore, all the pains and sufferings had be brought about by something else other than God, like the devil, the infidels...etc, followed by countless religious wars, atrocities, burning people at stakes, every concept of sin and sinners, judgements, punishments...etc. All because God had to be all good and all loving. Change the word God to Consciousness, now Consciousness is all peace and all happiness, therefore, Consciousness couldn't possibly be the one causing all the pains and sufferings of life, It has to be something else other than Consciousness that can be finger pointed, and blamed, like finite minds , separate self, beliefs in separate self, if not, it has to be the cultures. The man who puts on the costume, has deceived himself for so long in blaming the costume, that he actually came to believe his own lies and deception, thinking it really is the costume that is responsible, but, never himself. The man is truly sick. What the man really needs is a self introspecting investigation into his own psyche. Consciousness is sick. It needs to stop deceiving Itself, and start investigating its own Psyche for all the itches and impulses as to why. The only Doer, Experiencer, Sufferer and Deceiver here is Consciousness and Consciousness alone. Not the devil, Not the unbelievers, Not the finite minds, Not the separate self, Not the ego, Not the beliefs in separate self, Not the cultures . Why does Consciousness always deceive Itself? Most likely that's how Consciousness or life gets to perpetuate Itself. Countless life forms are being eaten alive even at this very moment, some are barely days old, screaming in pain from the top of their lungs to no avail. All performed and directed by none other than Consciousness and Consciousness alone. We can never be too careful when it concerns the Absolute True Nature of ourselves, not just for our own sakes, but also for the sakes of all life forms and beyond.
@Anti79Hero
@Anti79Hero Жыл бұрын
I’m tired of the dance
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