ETERNITY's Secret Connection to ASGARD, Stormbreaker & the Infinity Gauntlet REVEALED

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@ScreenCrush
@ScreenCrush 2 жыл бұрын
What do you think of our theory?
@robbiecapaldi6495
@robbiecapaldi6495 2 жыл бұрын
Love it ❤
@daredevil9326
@daredevil9326 2 жыл бұрын
@@robbiecapaldi6495 lmao u watched the whole vdeo in just a min lmao lmao
@Ked7
@Ked7 2 жыл бұрын
@@robbiecapaldi6495 it’s been three minutes you haven’t seen it
@Lovelife86nj
@Lovelife86nj 2 жыл бұрын
Hey I think they hinted at eternity in age of ultron when Wanda messed with Thor mind… 3 statues.. it was a quick clip
@junezilla2235
@junezilla2235 2 жыл бұрын
Love it
@Kaijutopia
@Kaijutopia 2 жыл бұрын
Odin's quest for the Infinity Stones would make for a great prologue (Thor 5?). Unlike Thanos, Odin couldn't sacrifice the one he loved for the Soul Stone, as it would bar them from entering Valhalla, so he abandoned his thirst for power and became one of the universe's greatest protectors.
@MarkHougaard
@MarkHougaard 2 жыл бұрын
From Infinity War, "the soul stone requires a sacrifice... you must lose what you love." Not "who" but "what", not specifically a loved one/person. I believe it could be a person or quest or oneself, etc. Ultimate self sacrifice. Yes, the quote does go on to "a soul, for a soul," so I could be all wet.
@saihtama
@saihtama 2 жыл бұрын
F*ing call Watiti now
@all_hail_annihilus_lordoft3591
@all_hail_annihilus_lordoft3591 2 жыл бұрын
I would love an ancient prologue movie of the beginning of Asgard and the conquest that ensued going into Odins reign, revealing past instances that are the cause and effect of our present circumstances in the MCU. Wild but would be really cool/ jaw dropping awesome. if done right
@optimus2g
@optimus2g 2 жыл бұрын
@@saihtama How about not. He shouldn't come anywhere near a Marvel project ever again.
@andscifi
@andscifi 2 жыл бұрын
It could be fun. Though I think the ScreenCrush theory was that Odin used the stones to create that test so he wouldn't have needed to sacrifice anything because the test didn't exist until he made it. It's even possible that he made it that so that he himself couldn't get the soul stone since he knew he wouldn't sacrifice that which he loved.
@picklesbruh
@picklesbruh 2 жыл бұрын
Adding more to the loop/cycle/eternity stuff - Thor adopting Love is parallel to Odin adopting Loki. This shows how Thor is following Odin’s footsteps!
@apoorvsingh4459
@apoorvsingh4459 2 жыл бұрын
It's amazing how your theories even being outrageous make sense. This is the reason we are here on Screencrush.
@jerryf.7363
@jerryf.7363 2 жыл бұрын
It's sounds like a conspiracy thoery within a fictional world! I love it!
@marvmon4735
@marvmon4735 2 жыл бұрын
Now we a ODIN MOVIE
@richardenzmann1832
@richardenzmann1832 2 жыл бұрын
I am All here for Doug!
@deathsyth8888
@deathsyth8888 2 жыл бұрын
Bifrost (rainbow bridge)... A rainbow has multiple colors. Multicolored infinity stones... Physical manifestations of aspects of the universe. The Bifrost uses the energy of the universe to move people around and hence the reason it was needed to reach Eternity since that entity is the concept of the universe made into a single being.
@Kinobambino
@Kinobambino 2 жыл бұрын
Niceee
@mavvynne444
@mavvynne444 2 жыл бұрын
Not bad. But still far from right
@primaaditya7554
@primaaditya7554 2 жыл бұрын
💯💯Agree
@allamericanslacker2378
@allamericanslacker2378 Жыл бұрын
Rainbows have seven colors though, and there's six infinity stones so you've got one color more than you need.
@JeffEspiritu-r7f
@JeffEspiritu-r7f 7 ай бұрын
@@allamericanslacker2378 Maybe the 7th color is for eternity
@lordodysseus
@lordodysseus 2 жыл бұрын
That home alone edit was amazing!
@AriEl93333
@AriEl93333 2 жыл бұрын
I was just saying the same thing. Especially Odins laugh
@lordndrew
@lordndrew 2 жыл бұрын
If all the signs are true. The person who wrote the entire mcu story arc is truly amazing.
@JakeTaaylor
@JakeTaaylor 2 жыл бұрын
Aaaaand THIS is why Ryan Arey is my favorite. This is very well thought out, the reaching is kept to a minimum, these points are realistic and overall this seems highly plausible. Great shit!👍
@fingfangfoom2399
@fingfangfoom2399 2 жыл бұрын
He is 100% the best theorist… well 2nd best. The best is your mom.
@marklowther3228
@marklowther3228 2 жыл бұрын
Someone who works under Fiege: So, how does this all work? Fiege: I have no idea. Let's just put it all out there and see what the fans and KZbinrs come up with. Someone will piece it all together in a coherent fashion.
@kinglou1618
@kinglou1618 2 жыл бұрын
Yup screen crush just saved MCU
@vidinhadovini
@vidinhadovini 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly, I loved the videos and theories, but if you ask someone who only watch the movies and officials materials...this doesn't exist.
@diegor.8929
@diegor.8929 2 жыл бұрын
Also a very good, credible story lol
@ishankapoor
@ishankapoor 2 жыл бұрын
This theory is amazing, this also proves that Asgard was the most powerful realm out of the nine and even more stronger than omnipotence city, Odin did great things in mcu. Great work.
@colonelb
@colonelb 2 жыл бұрын
Odin definitely had two of the biggest stones in the universe, that's for sure
@MoneySpain1188
@MoneySpain1188 2 жыл бұрын
Was going to like this but it was at 69 and that was too nice
@bradpitt1263
@bradpitt1263 2 жыл бұрын
They really need a Odin story I would love to see his origin
@nimbacobloid9279
@nimbacobloid9279 2 жыл бұрын
Marvel Origins : The Allfather
@primaaditya7554
@primaaditya7554 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah Marvel plz
@thetrickster1365
@thetrickster1365 2 жыл бұрын
I like this theory, yet it annoys me when Odin, and asgard are barely looked upon with any great respect, considering the respect Odin apparently had in the universe being called the all father, having had at least 2 infinity stones(that we know of) and the interactions he and thor have had in saving the universe, yet The grand master had never heard of them, and in omnipotent city, no one recognised him, and Zeus barely acknowledged Odins death with any respect, considering how relevant the bifrost seems to be in accessing eternity. The mistake they made was in the first thor, making the events with the dark elves and borr only a couple thousand years ago, and then thor saying to surtur, "didnt my father kill you like a million years ago." Also making zeus the oldest and wisest and most powerful was a mistake, when Odin clearly had more wisdom and demanded more respect and fear from his enemies. Where as zeus was a joke and showed little wisdom or strength, in comparison. The mcu is all over the place, when it comes to stuff like this
@ytyoungrichnhigh
@ytyoungrichnhigh 2 жыл бұрын
which is very sad and ridiculous.. My Lord are you correct!
@joeycisneros9484
@joeycisneros9484 2 жыл бұрын
Thor said zues was the oldest and strongest of the remaining gods. Not of all time. I assume when Odin was around Omnipotent city was run by him and Zues came into control only after Oden died
@dariusdafigga
@dariusdafigga 2 жыл бұрын
In mythology, Zeus is considered the oldest and strongest of all the gods
@joeycisneros9484
@joeycisneros9484 2 жыл бұрын
@@dariusdafigga only in Greek mythology lol
@loxng6801
@loxng6801 2 жыл бұрын
@@dariusdafigga he's the youngest of the Olympians
@cameronschmit6472
@cameronschmit6472 2 жыл бұрын
Are we just not gonna mention that even back in the first Thor movie the bifrost always left a mark that has Eternity sitting cross-legged in the middle of it?
@OnurTheXbot
@OnurTheXbot 2 жыл бұрын
Thanos: I’m not afraid anymore! Sees Odin Thanos: AAAAHH Odin: Haha
@connquerer
@connquerer 2 жыл бұрын
I want to see a young Odin show! Going through all of this! This is just the coolest theory video I’ve seen for the MCU. So awesome!
@slamrahovart9024
@slamrahovart9024 2 жыл бұрын
This is literally my favourite video on the internet. I've watched it so many times. Thank you, Doug, for letting Ryan, create this.
@ryans7097
@ryans7097 2 жыл бұрын
Honestly like this theory a lot. I love Thor and learning about mythology so maybe I’m biased but I think the MCU could have done a much better job of diving deeper into Asgard and how Odin/Asgardians/ what the dwarves have built have played into the history of the MCU. Would just be cool to learn more about what they consider canon because I like a lot of this theory.
@ryadinstormblessed8308
@ryadinstormblessed8308 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed. Would have been awesome if they'd hired Neil Gaiman as at least an advisor for mythology insight and how to tie it into modern stories. Aside from his amazing novels, American Gods and Anansi Boys, he also wrote a book on Norse Mythology which was fascinating, funny and very entertaining.
@TheBaBaTV
@TheBaBaTV 2 жыл бұрын
It has to relate to the comics at least , this isn’t mythology … remember these are marvel characters still and have their own thing… mcu didn’t just add mythology for shts, these are actual characters ! So it has to correlate to the comics !
@ryadinstormblessed8308
@ryadinstormblessed8308 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheBaBaTV To _which_ comics exactly? Since when does long-term continuity matter to comic writers? Over the decades, every comic series has multiple story arcs, often retelling or retconning previous arcs, or just ignoring them to tell other stories without bothering to answer which of the origin stories or continuities is relevant to a current arc. But in the case of the Thor and Asgard comics, yes they've always had differences from the mythology, but always been more-or-less based on and paying homage to the mythology.
@jayhustle74
@jayhustle74 2 жыл бұрын
It actually does because Thor and Loki and several people in the marvel universe are victims of live life in a constant loop when tony and all others who have found out about time travel and the quantum realm all mentions reversing a loop which explains infinity a constant loop
@Snoodlehootberry
@Snoodlehootberry 2 жыл бұрын
Love this theory, Ryan. These hints have been circling around for a long enough. It’s nice, someone pulled them all together.
@mr.brownstone5716
@mr.brownstone5716 2 жыл бұрын
Even if this theory turns out to be wrong or never proven, it's still awesome!
@nolanpeters5462
@nolanpeters5462 2 жыл бұрын
I'd like to think the reason Odin lost his eye is actually that he cut it out and put the time stone in their so he could truly see the future.
@SabbirxL2049
@SabbirxL2049 2 жыл бұрын
this aint it chief
@b5media241
@b5media241 2 жыл бұрын
He lost it fighting Homelander.
@jamesbennett-moynes4034
@jamesbennett-moynes4034 2 жыл бұрын
In norse mythology he sacrificed it for knowledge and wisdom casting it into a well then throwing himself on his spear as a form of self sacrifice
@MarkHougaard
@MarkHougaard 2 жыл бұрын
@@jamesbennett-moynes4034 Interesting. Doesn't that sound familiar? Thrown, self sacrifice (denying the thing you love most), well (water), and knowledge & wisdom are strongly tied to the soul. Concept-wise, a lot like what happens on Vormir to unlock access to the soul stone. An exact match? No. However, myths/mythology are often founded on truths/facts.
@omalor
@omalor 2 жыл бұрын
I think it was scratched off by a flurken.
@proffxxl
@proffxxl 2 жыл бұрын
I think Odin's gauntlet was less fake and more prototype.
@SK4M_Freal
@SK4M_Freal 2 жыл бұрын
Yes bro, I like that idea rather than Odin fanboying and getting a replica. He obviously has a connection with the dwarves who made Thanos's.👌🏾
@yungqueso4211
@yungqueso4211 2 жыл бұрын
the fact that hela knew it was fake couild also be a hint
@ghiggs8389
@ghiggs8389 2 жыл бұрын
Perhaps the gauntlet was real and she was referring to the fake stones placed in it, because no one would leave THAT weapon loaded and ready to use.
@A.claire.perspective
@A.claire.perspective 2 жыл бұрын
Love this thought!
@jammbbs1688
@jammbbs1688 2 жыл бұрын
Odin once had the smarts to enacting different safeguards but beyond that he must have had the knowledge to it all taken from him as well in seeing what the final picture to it all on his deathbed
@hoyasfan459
@hoyasfan459 2 жыл бұрын
ScreenCrush is the best KZbin channel for reviews of all of the comic based shows and movies. The content and insights are great. Doug is the icing on the cake.
@robi6317
@robi6317 2 жыл бұрын
i was just about to type the same comment
@publicfreakoutcringe1918
@publicfreakoutcringe1918 2 жыл бұрын
The 'Home Alone' scene is AWESOME
@TheJazzWasALie
@TheJazzWasALie 2 жыл бұрын
been subbed for 2 years, I watch every new video you put out pretty much. this is the most hype one that I think I've seen.
@ltils9081
@ltils9081 2 жыл бұрын
I really wish they explained, or even hinted, at why the bifrost is key to finding Eternity. Just came across as super convenient, rather than based upon any pre-existing history of the MCU. This theory bridges it quite nicely but in Love and Thunder it was just like, "oh, okay then". Would love to have seen how Gorr found this out. Too much telling, not enough showing.
@Itstimetoplaythegam
@Itstimetoplaythegam 2 жыл бұрын
The sword told him
@Somniuh
@Somniuh 2 жыл бұрын
this has to be the best channel for Comic Book Movie related content on KZbin.. thank you ryan and the screencrush team!’
@deercamp2010
@deercamp2010 2 жыл бұрын
10:40 is just great! I wouldn’t stop at just Odin, Hela had to fall too. She was planning to conquer all too, maybe at Thanos’ side as Death. I bet that arc was looked at.
@mikeclark6447
@mikeclark6447 2 жыл бұрын
Enough of us fans shared theories about it as a possibility someone should have noticed.
@Flynn01979
@Flynn01979 2 жыл бұрын
Also, it just so happens that the Infinity Gauntlet was crafted by the same Dwarves that crafted Mjolnir and Stormbreaker. It's very possible that they made one for Odin thousands of years ago. Odds are Thanos knew that, which is why he sought them out to forge a new one.
@McKaySavage
@McKaySavage 2 жыл бұрын
Building on your theory of Odín using the time stone to see and plan for the best future, what will warp your noodle is that means it’s fully possible that Odin himself was the one who created and disseminated the great prophesy of Ragnarok to everyone, including Sutur.
@dmcarpenter3097
@dmcarpenter3097 2 жыл бұрын
I seriously love these, you guys are so good Kevin is taking notes on how to tie the MCU shoe laces
@riteshnalla4703
@riteshnalla4703 2 жыл бұрын
Damn man. What a theory. I definitely believe that this is how it happened. Maybe Marvel should make a spin off movie on Odin to explain everything
@castlecarry
@castlecarry 2 жыл бұрын
This might be your best video. Well done!
@Matthew_BKG
@Matthew_BKG 2 жыл бұрын
When you brought up the celtic knot, I knew immediately, because one, I'm at least half celtic in decent, and two, the ring I got for my ex-fiancé has a celtic knot on it for the meaning of eternity. I still wear it around my neck today, almost 2 years after we broke off the engagement, to remind myself that while I still deeply love her, she obviously was not the one I was meant to go through life with. She has her problems, and I have mine, we probably would never work out, but I genuinely cherish our time together, and if she wanted, I would genuinely run away to the ends of the earth with her.
@ChapzeeChait
@ChapzeeChait 2 жыл бұрын
@Ryan I love this video. I think you and your team put a lot of effort. And it is worth watch. Very clean video. Amazing details.
@Thunder025
@Thunder025 2 жыл бұрын
The “convenient” bifrost summoned by Heimdal is the same dark magic used by Odin to send Thor to Earth in the original Avengers movie. It takes a lot of energy to do it and it’s probably what sealed Heimdal’s fate
@stanroy96
@stanroy96 2 жыл бұрын
He was gonna die it didn’t matter the point of not dealing with any form of dark energy in marvel comics is to not have your mind warped it’s why hela had no chill and for scarlet witch thought that would be obvious at this point that’s why Mordo hates strange too
@tenthunknown
@tenthunknown 2 жыл бұрын
Odin didn't use Dark magic, the Heimdall sword was already plugged in the Bifrost, all Odin had to do was push Thor when the Bifrost opened.
@Croftice1
@Croftice1 2 жыл бұрын
@@tenthunknown I think he meant the first Avengers movie, not Thor movie. In Thor 1, Bifrost was intact, until Thor destroied it at the end fighting Loki, Avengers take place after that, so Odin had to find other means to send Thor to Midgard, which is that Dark Magic thing they talk about.
@Rebel_Soul
@Rebel_Soul 2 жыл бұрын
Great vid my man ‼️ Truly enjoyed this unexpected surprise.. well done 👍🏾
@kacarf
@kacarf 2 жыл бұрын
I usually think your theories and script predictions are far from being real but most of this one might turn out real. I hope we get to see history of MCU in the movies or Disney+ series.
@GCOMradio_Lyfeblood
@GCOMradio_Lyfeblood 2 жыл бұрын
This is a fascinating story connecting the stones, axe and hammer, the bifrost, Odin's history and a number of unanswered questions when it came to the fake stone gauntlet, bifrost markings, and everything else! Some studio exec/director/writer is cursing you at this point if they had plans to do something similar. It's very plausible the whole thing. Kudos to everyone involved with developing this MCU theory!
@james35124
@james35124 2 жыл бұрын
This makes me wonder, could Thor learn to use stormbreaker's bifrost as a weapon? Perhaps like a teleportation beam...?
@yungbubbadetokz
@yungbubbadetokz 2 жыл бұрын
He did when he 1st got Stormbreaker in Infinity War. Soon as he held it, him Rocket and Groot teleported to Wakanda
@smokingobe
@smokingobe 2 жыл бұрын
Love anything about Thor, or Odin cant wait to see Rune King Thor
@04Saleen256
@04Saleen256 2 жыл бұрын
I think Tony Stark’s arc reactor is powered by a synthetic infinity stone. It was a “new element” he created in Ironman 2 using his fathers research… his father’s work on Project Pegasus which was working with the Space Stone. This would also explain why Loki’s scepter, using the Mind Stone, didn’t work on Tony in Avengers 2012 when Loki tried to control Tony’s mind. One infinity stone was countered by another. The mind stone couldn’t overpower Tony’s synthetic Space Stone.
@ezekielmuleta398
@ezekielmuleta398 2 жыл бұрын
Just imagine thor still have a lot of things he didn't know about his father secrets, like the knowledge hela know about his father that thor didn't even know. There is still a lot of thing that will surprise us that we didn't know. No one know what mystery s are still there
@yoyomayne
@yoyomayne 2 жыл бұрын
Odin could also summon the bifrost through dark magic, plus his father already had that power of the bifrost so I don't think the space stone was used to create it
@swisskristin12
@swisskristin12 2 жыл бұрын
Very cool theory! Myriad is an adjective not a noun. So you have myriad ideas, not a myriad of ideas. That word became popular a few years ago and everyone uses it wrong. It replaces the word “many” if that helps.
@Croftice1
@Croftice1 2 жыл бұрын
You can still have "many of that stuff"
@EggShen905
@EggShen905 2 жыл бұрын
We really need a theory on the MCU's cosmology, in terms of which groups of immortal, timeless beings are a higher or lower orders than other groups. Are Celestials more powerful than whatever Eternity is? Can the Infinity Stones defeat Celestials? Are Asgardians (and Greek and Egyptian gods, etc) more like men, or more like one of these higher order beings? Can a lower order being become a higher order one? Are their multiversal versions of each Celestial/Eternity/etc, and if so how does that effect their various existences? So many questions. And in the Marvel comics there is actually a One-God type figure, an inscrutable being that rules over all of the above in every multiverse, though no one knows anything about him. Of course the MCU likely won't bring that into play, but it's there if they really want it.
@gabriel51366
@gabriel51366 2 жыл бұрын
The One Above All was considered to be Stan Lee, or Jack Kirby. Powers of the universe top to bottom: Tribunal - Eternity, Infinity, Chaos and Order - Galactus - Celestials. The Stones have the power to destroy the Celestials, but would require someone far more capable than Thanos(movie wise, not comics) as the Celestials would likely be prepared to stop him. Also, the Stones cannot affect, nor work in other universes. Hence in the drawer in the Loki series.
@EggShen905
@EggShen905 2 жыл бұрын
@@gabriel51366 You know, I didn't expect a useful answer but I'm glad you provided one. Thanks! So we haven't seen Tribunal yet in the MCU, but we have seen Eternity. OK. Are Infinity stones related to the being Infinity? Also, are these higher powers multiversal, and if not, how do they relate/react to their multiverse versions?
@gabriel51366
@gabriel51366 2 жыл бұрын
@@EggShen905 We have seen the Tribunal, sort of. In the recent Dr. Strange movie. The higher powers, like Eternity only represent our universe. The stones formed before time existed from the suicide of the first being that ever existed. The MCU changed how they were created, but I don't remember what.
@EggShen905
@EggShen905 2 жыл бұрын
@@gabriel51366 I believe the explanation was that the stones formed when the universe was created, or the stones made the universe by combining their basic essences, or something nondescript like that. So anyway, that means there's an Eternity in every universe? That seems odd, when there's only one of several finite beings like Kang (because he killed all the others) or America Chavez (because reasons).
@mikeclark6447
@mikeclark6447 2 жыл бұрын
@@EggShen905 America Chavez is from a world outside of the Multiverse. Kind of like Dormamu's realm exists outside of time and space. A universe all alone.
@evanpb
@evanpb 2 жыл бұрын
Dang, this is CRAZY and makes me really want a prequel movie / D+ series about Odin's Infinity Quest and the creation of Asgard
@SignumInterriti
@SignumInterriti 2 жыл бұрын
Is there a plot hole? In L&T, Eternity granting a wish seems to be a thing that Thor just... knows. Yet before Endgame the teams scrambles for some way to revert the snap. How come Thor never brought up Infinity in those conversations if he knew about it? Don't tell me he was being responsible, we're talking about Thor!
@davenixon8939
@davenixon8939 2 жыл бұрын
1st time I watched your videos. HAD TO Subscribe. I'm very impressed with the research and theories you've come up with!
@acsingleton1
@acsingleton1 2 жыл бұрын
I find these theories more interesting than the actual movies. Anybody with me?
@Effingslackin
@Effingslackin 2 жыл бұрын
10:47 *THE* best editing I’ve ever seen that truly made me laugh Also, where are the cool flames that Stormbreaker had when thro arrived in Infinity war?
@johnnybgood7526
@johnnybgood7526 2 жыл бұрын
We need Odin’s story on the big screen.. they could literally make countless movies in his story and I want to see em all, his entire life
@thelinkisblue
@thelinkisblue 2 жыл бұрын
We need an Odin prequel
@ReintGerts
@ReintGerts 2 жыл бұрын
We need an Ancient Avengers movie with Odin, Ancient one, Eternals (maybe) etc
@Ked7
@Ked7 2 жыл бұрын
@@ReintGerts not ancient one we know when she is from about. They need the name from the necklace.
@ReintGerts
@ReintGerts 2 жыл бұрын
@@Ked7 don't they say that no one knows the true age of the ancient one, and later that she used power from the dark dimension to keep her alive?
@Neutral-Party
@Neutral-Party 2 жыл бұрын
Yall. I was literally yawning (out of tiredness) as he played that clip. Trippy.
@instantdominator2121
@instantdominator2121 2 жыл бұрын
Well, the four cosmic entities were canon since Guardians of the Galaxy.
@seannsd9208
@seannsd9208 2 жыл бұрын
That line of tony at the end of age of ultron And thor landing his boat in the grass of omnipotent city
@lordjred
@lordjred 2 жыл бұрын
I'm so happy Eternity finally made his appearance in the MCU. His (its?) first appearance is the only Stan Lee autograph I have. Such a cool character.
@AcuPunk420
@AcuPunk420 2 жыл бұрын
I am always amazed and how brilliant this channel is! My favourite channel on KZbin 🥰
@spiderhamilton1
@spiderhamilton1 2 жыл бұрын
This theory is absolutely brilliant although it kind of falls apart at the end there with the leaving the door open and the death of Eternity idea. (Seriously, Secrets Wars is becoming your Mephisto) The only holes in it are the timing of Odin gathering all the stones while Bor's still alive and Thor's lightning powering Stormbreaker's lightning. I think finding the space stone was Prince Odin's first great quest and Odin didn't go searching for the remaining Infinity Stones until after Bor's death and he became king. And how does Gorr use Stormbreaker's bifrost if it is powered by Thor's lightning? I say it isn't Thor that powers Stormbreaker's bifrost. The original bifrost was built by Asgardians and drew power from Asgard but Stormbreaker was designed and created by the dwarves millennia later and they are much better cosmic engineers than the Asgardians. Stormbreaker is self-sustaining hence why Gorr could use it. Also, I believe Odin enhanced himself and others with the Infinity Stones before he split them up again. Hence why he, Hela, Thor and Heimdall all have greater powers than the average Asgardian. Frigga and Loki and others had to learn magic for their powers. The average Asgardian just seems to be virtually immortal and superhuman physically, like Sif and the Warriors Three. Odin could have just empowered himself and it passed down to his children Hela and Thor, and granted Heimdall his power (from the space or soul stone) which we see he passed down to his son.
@RJ1J
@RJ1J 2 жыл бұрын
This is interesting. What gets confusing in the MCU is that amazing powers are sometimes linked to stones or weapons, other times they are abstract and 'just there' with no real explanation. Case in point when Heimdall asked the Asgardian gods give him the power of the Bi-frost to send Hulk to Earth (That annoyed me a bit, seemed like a plot contrivance). How did that happen? Before then, he needed the huge contraption. So where did that energy come from? Are these gods in Valhalla? Are they intervening. They certainly massively help in Infinity War. I wish there was a little bit more explanation in the MCU about this issue, like this video (Which has a few mistakes you pointed out) . How and why are special powers granted, used, obtained and what is their source? Was Thor exposed to the space stone like Captain Marvel? And how/why is a power granted and used in different ways (Which is what Ryan is trying to figure out partly).
@spiderhamilton1
@spiderhamilton1 2 жыл бұрын
@@RJ1J In the Avengers, when Loki and Thor are talking on the rock before the fight with Iron Man, Loki asks how much dark magic did Odin call upon to get Thor back to earth. Heimdall called upon the "dark gods" to open a bifrost. Those dark gods and dark magic could be the 4 entities that created the Infinity Stones that we saw on Morag that include Eternity. Or the dark gods/magic could be from outside our dimension like Dormammu in the Dark Dimension. In the comics, Those Who Sit Above In Shadow are entities sort of worshipped and invoked like gods by the Asgardians so the dark magic/gods could be them. Unfortunately, all of these plot holes can't be plugged lol
@SK4M_Freal
@SK4M_Freal 2 жыл бұрын
Proper feeling this theory bro. All makes sense and you make a good point.👆🏾👌🏾
@andersonpeguero8908
@andersonpeguero8908 2 жыл бұрын
Almost like how Thor empowered the children. Makes you say hmmm!!!!!
@Kilovotis
@Kilovotis 2 жыл бұрын
@@spiderhamilton1 He did not call upon the dark gods, he called upon the Allfathers. The three ancestors of Thor, pretty much.
@lavidacigars
@lavidacigars 2 жыл бұрын
Odin references that it was his father, Bor, that defeated the dark elves. You see him appear using the bifrost, so it was pre Odin.
@mazhiwezakizo3513
@mazhiwezakizo3513 2 жыл бұрын
I think it would make sense that the Space Stone was in the possession of the Asgardian Kings for, possibly generations. I don't think everything has to come back to Odin though, alot of these points could be things that were established by earlier Asgardian Kings like Bor. I will say its weird that they are going out of their way to retcon (possibly) the godly status of Asgardians, in the earlier videos they were not real gods, but just advanced and powerful aliens, but now they are gods confirmed, but they are not immortal like other depicted gods, and bleed red blood while all the other gods we see bleed Gold, and only the most powerful of Asgardians appear to disperse into particles when they die, while all the other gods we see die do anyways.
@joserosa5342
@joserosa5342 2 жыл бұрын
Your theories are so amazing and feels canon.
@Van-xk7gn
@Van-xk7gn 2 жыл бұрын
What is the significance of Love, who is an incarnation of Eternity, welding Storm breaker now? Does it mean Eternity is now out to fight Chaos to stop it from ending the universe?
@chambersINC74
@chambersINC74 2 жыл бұрын
Yes yes yesssssss!! Ill take 2 please lol. Your on it. Thank you for your thought provoking videos! I love the deep dives . Keep it up!!!
@C-Swooop
@C-Swooop 2 жыл бұрын
Mikobashi, Knull, Nyx, etc. are all just avatars of Oblivion...another cosmic entity that often gets overlooked and forgotten 😏😎👌
@cha0sking220
@cha0sking220 2 жыл бұрын
Yeahhhhh!!!! Chaos King also appeared in Love and Thunder in the background!
@Ked7
@Ked7 2 жыл бұрын
@@cha0sking220 when
@Ked7
@Ked7 2 жыл бұрын
Knull is a fourth of the creation cycle. King in black The mother storm The phonix And black winter. King - matter Stom - life Phonix - life cycle Winter - end of the loop
@SportingRedwood
@SportingRedwood 2 жыл бұрын
Odin trolling Kevin McCallister has me DYING
@Son_of_a_Biscuit
@Son_of_a_Biscuit 2 жыл бұрын
If you look close enough, the Bifrost matches the colour of each Infinity Stone. Coincidence?
@Syed__kumailabbas
@Syed__kumailabbas 2 жыл бұрын
Coincidence... I THINK NOT
@Ked7
@Ked7 2 жыл бұрын
Rainbow bridge, rainbow…
@Son_of_a_Biscuit
@Son_of_a_Biscuit 2 жыл бұрын
@@Ked7 yeah, but orange is not the typical colour for a rainbow ^^
@spiderhamilton1
@spiderhamilton1 2 жыл бұрын
@@Son_of_a_Biscuit Yes, orange is a color of the rainbow. Are they not teaching Roy G Biv in elementary school anymore? Red Orange Yellow Green Blue Indigo Violet
@Ked7
@Ked7 2 жыл бұрын
@@Son_of_a_Biscuit ROY. G. BIV
@jnicophene
@jnicophene 2 жыл бұрын
Ryan, amazing work once again!! This is sooooo cool
@kraigpearlman3283
@kraigpearlman3283 2 жыл бұрын
Odin never used the reality stone or "built the universe". This is proven by the fact that he tried to "hide" the stones instead of using them to get rid of them (like Thanos did). Why would Odin keep them around if he supposedly used them and decided they were too powerful? Answer: he didn't. Fun theory though
@bronsonluks795
@bronsonluks795 2 жыл бұрын
I’m pretty sure that’s covered in the time stone part, he would see that they’re needed for certain aspects of the safer future to play out correctly, and if I remember correctly, didn’t thanos using the stones to destroy the stones seriously fuck him up? I doubt he’d wanna leave his kingdom without a strong ruler. And what if they needed them to defend asguard? Better to have it hidden than not have them at all. Now I personally don’t buy alll the stuff they were saying but a lot of it does make sense. Not to mention it’s literally confirmed that the space stone was in their possession and was chosen to be hidden away. it’s really not that far fetched when you realize it was definitely done with at least one, so why not the rest?
@adelismail9321
@adelismail9321 Жыл бұрын
That was incredible my dude it really sound s together
@hamdhanfiyaz4918
@hamdhanfiyaz4918 2 жыл бұрын
12:58, if Thor's lighting is the energy source of opening the bifrost then how was Gor able to open a bifrost in the centre of the universe to reach the eternity ??
@Crqn7
@Crqn7 2 жыл бұрын
I think stormbreaker has some energy in him from Thor, that's why gorr was able to use stormbreaker
@affanshaikh8492
@affanshaikh8492 2 жыл бұрын
yeah even Axl was able to use stormbreaker to transport all the children home
@mikeclark6447
@mikeclark6447 2 жыл бұрын
When Thor held open the iris at the forge, his very essence could have been imparted into Storm Breaker. Just a thought.
@XerouEffect13
@XerouEffect13 2 жыл бұрын
10:38 that Home Alone edit is way funnier than it should be. i about fell off the couch laughing.
@irmese06
@irmese06 2 жыл бұрын
Oh snap dude... So if you can’t see past your own death into the future using the Time Stone, and that limitation wasn’t particular to the Ancient One for some reason, then that means the only potential futures that Doctor Strange was able to evaluate were realties where he lived all the way up until Thanos was defeated. So there may have been more than just one outcome where Thanos was defeated - but Strange was unable to see those, because in those timelines, he himself would die at some point along the way! I bet Dr Nic West would be interested to hear this.
@Kinobambino
@Kinobambino 2 жыл бұрын
Which is strange because he did die he got snapped 👀
@Croftice1
@Croftice1 2 жыл бұрын
@@Kinobambino But he got unsnapped by Hulk and saw how Tony snapped Thanos and his army. He just didn't see the "inbetween" time, when he was snapped. "Not being able to see past your death" doesn't mean it won't work upon your "resurrection" anymore. So Strange saw the events up to the SNAP, then either black, or it skipped right to the REVERSE-SNAP and then he saw the rest.
@LotanLevant
@LotanLevant 2 жыл бұрын
That was one of your best videos. I wonder how much time and edibles went into this
@sunlynnhatchett3983
@sunlynnhatchett3983 2 жыл бұрын
If they do have a multiversal war and destroy a few universes, including their own, they could just move to other universes to keep the multiversal interest while introducing more characters from the multiverse.
@kenneth6571
@kenneth6571 2 жыл бұрын
But wouldn't that lead to an incursion
@brettlovell8761
@brettlovell8761 2 жыл бұрын
Rick Sanchez rules.
@benjackson6260
@benjackson6260 2 жыл бұрын
Instead of doing that, they can just save some people from a dying universe..
@Garnithron1
@Garnithron1 2 жыл бұрын
That's the very best theory you made my friend : )
@hernandezradrian
@hernandezradrian 2 жыл бұрын
If stormbraker is powered by Thor how come the bad guy (don’t remember his name) use it to eternity’s door ?
@brandonreed09
@brandonreed09 2 жыл бұрын
Well it could be part battery too, storing that energy for when it's needed.
@SynthaPak
@SynthaPak 2 жыл бұрын
Gorr the God Butcher….but to answer you question, I don’t know that’s a good question! 👍
@djphat1736
@djphat1736 2 жыл бұрын
AWESOME!!!!!! Love this. Great job man!
@rachagainstthemachine.
@rachagainstthemachine. 2 жыл бұрын
Great theory's. Only downside is alot of Odin's supposed visions of the future happened after his death, and as you stated the Time stone won't let u see past your own death. So Odin couldn't have set up things like imbuing stormbreaks mould with the space stone coz he wouldn't have known about it. Unless of course I missed something.
@Ked7
@Ked7 2 жыл бұрын
He knew something bad was coming after his death hela so that is what it was made for
@blackirish2073
@blackirish2073 2 жыл бұрын
I guess to answer that question we would have to know who Thor was talking to during his fight with Helena was it Odin or just Thor's subconscious
@SpFlash1523
@SpFlash1523 2 жыл бұрын
But he did theorize that Odin already had Stormbreaker (in concept) for the Dwarfs to make, ever since Thor returned the tesseract to Asgard, especially since Thor was eventually going to be the King of Asgard, hence "a king's weapon."
@gigachad1939
@gigachad1939 2 жыл бұрын
I think Odin knew that Thor might destroy Asgard in order to defeat hela, losing the only source of accessing the bifrost. That might be the reason he made sure that stormbreaker could summon the bifrost.
@mississippiparkers
@mississippiparkers 2 жыл бұрын
@@gigachad1939 Odin told thor and loki of the prophecy, so Odin knew it was coming. Maybe he had used the time stone to see what would come, like strange did?
@caliq7900
@caliq7900 2 жыл бұрын
Wow that was great! I love this and hope it to be true, great work on your part!!
@BYERE
@BYERE 2 жыл бұрын
The ironic and contradicting factor about the theory that Odin was controlling everything after viewing all the possible futures so that the "perfect future" would come to pass... is that it WASN'T him controlling it. It was He Who Remains, as established at the end of Loki. His power over the TVA and making sure the Sacred Timeline came to pass was what was controlling the future, NOT Odin.
@apolmedrano3914
@apolmedrano3914 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah but Odin didn't know what was gonna happen next, they all felt like they had free will. For example, Dr. Strange with the whatever million different outcomes vs Thanos. He thought there was multiple ways, he didn't known that the sacred timeline willed their win.
@BYERE
@BYERE 2 жыл бұрын
@@apolmedrano3914 Exactly. I'm not saying the theory that Odin had the Infinity Stones or was trying to make everything happen in a certain way, but that despite whatever he would have done, it would all have been because of He Who Remains. HOWEVER... that does bring up the question of whether Eternity and the like are ALSO being controlled by He Who Remains. Did they come before him, as they were there prior to the creation of the stones and thus the beginning of all time, or has his control over time become so absolute that He exists BEFORE the likes of Eternity and the Celestials and such, and are controlling all of their actions too?
@Ked7
@Ked7 2 жыл бұрын
@@BYERE no eternity and the othe seven are not controlled since chaos magic caused him to lose his grip on the timeline and why no one went there before
@krtadjordje
@krtadjordje 2 жыл бұрын
@BYERE okay, but, what if, he who remains, every time when manipulating time ( when it comes to celestials, eternity or, even Odin ) couldn't quite succed because while he was doing it, every time he wanted to manipulate something while Odine is alive, Odin would have seen it through the time stone ( not "he who remains" but the events and changing of the structure and consequences ) so he would then counteract and slide it to his or Asgard and Thors advantage? It's quite a mind vreaker and twisting paralel and multuvers WTF, but, it's kinda what it would be. Its not Dr Strange looking through time stone its legit GOD ( big G ) who evolved ( lost an eye for gaining wisdom, hey maybe because interactions with troubles "he who remains" caused whilist Odin was alive time ), who ( if we take this theory as a canon ) stroke a deal with eternity, embodiment of the universe...and he who remains how much he can manipulate time can't be stronger than eternity. Don't forget eternity made universe, and therefor made "the time" as its part of functioning. Soooo This theory is cool, and really true to the MCU we've seen so far
@gabriel51366
@gabriel51366 2 жыл бұрын
@@krtadjordje Eternity did not make the universe, he was born as the universe from the cosmic egg that spawned our reality. From the egg came space(Infinity), time(Eternity) and entropy(Death). Also, later in the MCU, they'll introduce the 4th, Galactus.
@Titanicwasaninsidejob
@Titanicwasaninsidejob 2 жыл бұрын
My dad and I have said for a long time that Thanos waited for Odin to die. And the Fake gauntlet in his treasure room was always because other beings thought Odin to still have the stones- from a time when he did seek/ collect them.
@henrybraxton482
@henrybraxton482 2 жыл бұрын
I love Thor I mean Thor the character this last movie just way too much comedy can we ever get a really action movie serious fate of the world Thor movie 🤷🏽‍♂️ is my point I watch The Gray Man last night on Netflix the Russo Brothers are just absolutely amazing I felt like I was in the theater the action was absolutely amazing Chris Evans gave just enough comedy Not over the Top I thought he played his roll well as the psychopath mercenary but my point is it was a better movie than Thor I mean can I get the Russo Brothers to give me an epic Thor movie where the accident is just absolutely crazy like it was in this movie and the suspense that existed with the twist and turns did existed as well that's all I wanted to say have a nice day
@tnoudy3524
@tnoudy3524 2 жыл бұрын
This is exquisite, my guy. The theory so good. I think it’s marvels actual plan.
@Jasmin-lg3gf
@Jasmin-lg3gf 2 жыл бұрын
You say one cannot see further than one's own death, but afterwards you say that Odin saw things that happened after his death. You have to decide which theory you use, you can't do both. You also say at first that the Bifrost is created, but at the end you say that it is summoned. Again, one thing is wrong here. I'm assuming you don't create the Bifrost, just summon it. In addition, the center of the universe does not necessarily have to have been built by Odin. Otherwise good video.
@Ked7
@Ked7 2 жыл бұрын
Um once something is created it is then somends. irl example the internet was created, now we use or summon it.
@Jasmin-lg3gf
@Jasmin-lg3gf 2 жыл бұрын
@@Ked7 Yes, but let's take your comparison. A simple computer is enough to use the Internet. In order to set up the Internet, however, you need an incredibly large infrastructure. Bifrost requires an Infinity Stone, this incredibly powerful axe, or something similar. What do you think it would take to create such power in the first place? It's more likely that the Bifrost was a part of the universe from the start and Odin just summons it.
@jay-s-kun4695
@jay-s-kun4695 Жыл бұрын
This man's editing is top tier
@Ked7
@Ked7 2 жыл бұрын
Hi. Mutants are born with the x gene. People who are mutated are different. Deadpool mutated not mutant
@teovu5557
@teovu5557 2 жыл бұрын
MCU is mostly influenced by the Ultimate line of marvel comics not 616 comics. And in the Ultimate universe Mutants were the results of outside mutation and experimentation. Even in the 616 comics they retconed the mutants to being experiments by the celestials anyways....lol
@Ked7
@Ked7 2 жыл бұрын
@@teovu5557 I know I was just saying this because he said that mutated people are mutants. Also ultimates are still just mutants since everyone that is a super isn’t called a mutant. Meaning something is still inside to begin with.
@teovu5557
@teovu5557 2 жыл бұрын
@@Ked7 lol I see you havent read the Ultimate line of Marvel. Every human with powers is a mutant save for Alien and Gods. Black Panther,Spiderman even Ant-man and the hulk in the ultimate line is termed a mutant.
@Ked7
@Ked7 2 жыл бұрын
@@teovu5557 ok
@Croftice1
@Croftice1 2 жыл бұрын
@@teovu5557 Ant-Man? What special powers has Scott Lang? Isn't the size change ability tied to the suit? They could also call Iron-Man a mutant then, because Tony had ... a magnet on his heart (which is something unnatural, isn't it?) and a high tech suit to fight bad guys.
@danieldunne4256
@danieldunne4256 2 жыл бұрын
Just watch this theory breakdown and my mind is blown. You're awesome.
@Psy8ern3t1k
@Psy8ern3t1k 2 жыл бұрын
For real though... I'm pretty sure that Screen Crush is the reason that the MCU even works anymore, considering all the "plot holes." Every time I watch a theory video here I'm like, "OMG, I didn't even notice that, but it makes So Much Sense!" I
@SamSilk
@SamSilk 2 жыл бұрын
In the comics, Thor isn't the son of Freya but rather the son of Gaia (well, up until recent revelations). Eternity could be his real mother in the MCU and he could have been made by his father as a weapon from the beginning.
@craigwilliams1073
@craigwilliams1073 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah it makes sense, Thor was absolutely nonchalant about telling Gore to take his wish! He knew, Thor knows more than the movies are portraying!
@need4boo
@need4boo 2 жыл бұрын
This theory as a 4 episode miniseries ahead of secret wars would be so good. Basically like Rings of Power but with Younger Odin and infinity stones.
@andrewboddie5415
@andrewboddie5415 2 жыл бұрын
🔥🔥 amazing video fr fr
@roguepadawan1984
@roguepadawan1984 2 жыл бұрын
Brilliant work & theory. Love your videos!
@kevinprice7620
@kevinprice7620 2 жыл бұрын
Wow, this theory would make all of the Thor movies so much better. Disney/Marvel needs to hire you for the next movie/series they make concerning Thor
@ericbrant6309
@ericbrant6309 2 жыл бұрын
Brilliant stuff Ryan
@theinformationcollector833
@theinformationcollector833 2 жыл бұрын
I adore the way you think and how you built this.
@lucius_vi
@lucius_vi 2 жыл бұрын
Great Video! Love all of It!
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