Ethanol mod for the Saab 9-5 Aero!

[@Jonttuk230]

Very good video, greetings from Finland!

[@TrionicSeven]

Thanks! :)

[@yoniajavon4923]

And from France, actually did more than 100.000km on my MY02 Aero using E85 it's great :)

[@Itsarealone]

Pikes peak is such a fun road to go on! After the tree line your car loses a good amount of power too

[@killerhangar94]

If you are based in Jönköping, we should really get coffee one day when im there keeping my mandatory brakes :D (Pros of driving the truck, can really meet people around scandinavia pretty easily :D )

[@TrionicSeven]

Yep, that's where I live! Hit me up on Facebook! :)

[@ivanfaresp85]

Hi master! What is the sw recomend to dual fuel with 630cc Siemens deka injectors?? Same process but different sw maybe?

[@uodavid]

Hello T7, Do you have know injectors upgrade for saab 93 2.8 v6. Please. Thank

[@johnc.umayam]

Kan man köra ecopower bensin med e85 ? Om jag ändra mappen till e85?

[@superstrongchedder]

Did your Saab come from the factory with the ability to run E85 ethanol and petrol? or is this something you have added?

[@AcidStyle79]

He is using T7suite to flash a new firmware version, read up on it it quite easy to do, you have to take in account that e85 burn with less calorific efficiency and hence you need to inject more, make sure your injectors are up to par most people when tuning on E85 use Siemens Deka but if you want stock power the red injectors are fine.

[@TrionicSeven]

The Aero only comes in a gasoline version and I flash the car with software that takes care of e85, just like AcidStyle79 said.

[@superstrongchedder]

+Trionic Seven: For Saab Enthusiasts oh i see. But do you have to change any hardware or does the software update /change take care of everything?

[@TrionicSeven]

As I talked about before I tried E85 last year with no hardware changes resulted in the fuel pump dying on me. That's to be expected. For the Aero, it runs more or less straight on, but with less power on e85 due to injectors maxing out. Again, can't really make a tutorial about biopower conversion as there are a lot of pitfalls and variations depending on model and condition of the car!

[@TrionicSeven]

But generally, the Saabs need only small, if any, hardware changes. Software takes care of the rest

[@christofferrushton3607]

Is that the Launch edition?

[@TrionicSeven]

Launch edition is model year 1998, this car is model year 2002

[@TheScardyBronyswe]

so that´s how a gas driven saab should sound like. mine just sound like a diesel and is going through a engine swap. greetings from skåne :)

[@TrionicSeven]

Argh, diesel noise isn't good! Hope your swap is going well!

[@Hammy0142]

quick question. I have a phase 1 saab 95 aero. 2.3t Abbot forged conversion blah blah blah. I can only get 99 octane fuel at pump. how hard is it change a normal petrol car to biopwer. of course mapper etc but what fuel pump and lines are required. many thanks

[@TrionicSeven]

Usually you just need to replace the pump, the rest works fine. Plus software, of course.

[@Hammy0142]

Trionic Seven u do the have to change fuel lines

[@TrionicSeven]

Source?

[@Hammy0142]

Trionic Seven I asked this in a saab forum on Facebook. the thing is. ethanol in the UK is very hard to get. near impossible. eBay is the only option. must be that they don't really know. but some forums on the net Were saying fuel lines.

[@TrionicSeven]

Experience has shown that you don't need to change the fuel lines in the Saab.

[@PNilssonen]

Hur mycket skillnad gör det att köra på 95 jämfört med 98? Har själv en aero och har bara tankat 95 hittills

[@TrionicSeven]

Bra fråga! Har faktiskt mest kört E85 själv och inte så mycket 98. Men om man tittar i OpenSID ser man ganska fort att motorn går in och begränsar när 95 börjar knacka, inte så med 98 och E85. Däremot verkar det inte vara någon skillnad i förbrukningen.

[@Rogers_Channel]

Hello. I to am a member at Trionictuning. Have John C:s Combiadapter too, but cannot find a thread where you can buy the casing for it. Could you point me in the right direction? I live in Jönköping too. I am thinking of going to one of the Saab meetings at Max too.... Would be nice. Are there any meetings scheduled this fall? Regards / Roger

[@TrionicSeven]

Hej Roger! Jag undrar om jag inte träffat dig när jag köpte gasdämpare till motorhuven för cirka 18 månader sedan, kan det stämma? Det har varit träffar på tisdagkvällar (kolla Trionic Seven på Facebook) men nu är det för mörkt, jag tror vi drar igång igen i vår. :) Här hittade jag mitt case: www.trionictuning.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3618

[@Rogers_Channel]

Tack. Jo det stämmer bra. Har haft många gamla 9-5or och även några Aeros som jag försökt tuna lite själv och då blir det lite delar man samlat på sig.Nu har jag en 9-3 TTid -2008 som bruksbil men ska åka och titta på ett 9-5 objekt. En 9-5 Vector 2,3 Biopower som har motorproblem. Tänkte göra i ordning den och troligen också pilla lite med mjukvaran. Kan vara kul. Har förresten tillgång till Tech 2 om du behöver hjälp med det någon gång. Ha det gott. Mvh Roger

[@TrionicSeven]

Vad trevligt! Saknar själv tech2 och ibland får man behov av det :) Vi hörs!

[@kyle-gs4ec]

I am thinking of adapting my Viggen to bio power. Would you suggest a new fuel pump for the 2000 Viggen? To encourage the use of e85? I am planning to tune through Maptun

[@TrionicSeven]

Check out the biopower conversion thread on trionictuning. I recommend an upgraded fuel pump since the old one can die at any time with e85

[@TastyTyrone]

Where can I buy a bluetooth adapter for that app for a 2004 saab 9-3 linear

[@TrionicSeven]

The ELM327 can be bought at many car parts stores, or even ebay (but beware of fakes)

[@isaiah-lava5.086]

so all I need is an upgraded e85 compatible fuel pump to go e85 on my 9-5 linear? or is there more to it? I've been researching some people say different things

[@TrionicSeven]

You can wing it and use an original pump, it might last 1 km or 10 000 km, no way of telling. Have a good towing insurance :)

[@dwautokonsult]

Kan du tänka dig att göra den här grejen även åt andra ? har en 2001 9-3 185hk som frugan kör. Bor utanför borås så är ju inte långt att åka :D

[@TrionicSeven]

Njae, ändra program kräver att man kan ge support också. Bättre att du pratar med trimfirma!

[@dwautokonsult]

Support vid en sån här sak är ju obefintlig men jag förstår din inställning. Jag tog o pratade men Mackan och han skall hjälpa mig här under nästkommande vecka verkar det som. Tack för att du tar dig tiden att göra dessa filmer iallafall

[@TrionicSeven]

Mackan kan det mesta om Trionic, bra val.

[@mannya1313]

Hi Jonathan ,first of all thank you for all those great videos you have made, very clear and easy for everyone to understand ,I have couple of questions , is it necessary to replace the fuel pump? because it will fail using E85,and is Walbro GSS341 255LPH , special pump made to handle E85,,also its been about 3 weeks since you have converted your SAAB to E85 are you happy with the results?

[@TrionicSeven]

Hey Manny. Just look at my fuel pump replacement video from last year, the car died due to the pump failing after driving on E85. With the stock pump it's not a matter of "if", but rather "when" it fails. Remember that the 9-5 pumps usually fail even when driving on gasoline. My pump failed quicker as it was a cheap aftermarket pump the last owner installed. Very happy so far, consumption on the highway is around 11 l/100km.

[@t1mpetti]

John C? You mean John from Finland?

[@TrionicSeven]

No, johnc at the trionictuning forum.

[@jahasmitasmitas3338]

Ai carlssoni?

[@beezoluciano4178]

Benefits of this?

[@TrionicSeven]

E85 is a better fuel :)

[@jahasmitasmitas3338]

Burns cleaner, and gives power. But engine needs it about 30% more than normal gasoline

[@bgfelagund]

Hi, what kind of tablet/phone holder are you using on your dash? Looks convenient. I'm surprised you're running 95 octane. I'm stage 2 and converted to LPG so I use only 99+ or 100 octane whilst it's warming up and won't be trying 95. I was about to ask you if you are encountering lots of misfires or knocks on A95 but realized you don't have openSID.

[@TrionicSeven]

Check out my video on the Brodit phone holder: kzbin.info/www/bejne/g56udKJqpd2LhLM I have OpenSID, but not in this exact video. There will always be some knocking when running 95 octane fuel, however I do so much driving that anything else is too expensive.

[@broderperdurabo]

No "neet" more videos....