Etruscan Cities and Civilization

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Thersites the Historian

Thersites the Historian

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The Etruscans were one of the most interesting civilizations of antiquity. In this video, I explore some of the distinctive features of Etruscan civilization and also look at some of the key urban sites in Etruria.
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@danielwallace1759
@danielwallace1759 4 жыл бұрын
I'd say anyone with passing familiarity of Czech history is very accustomed with the word defenestrate.
@annascott3542
@annascott3542 4 жыл бұрын
That unfortunate incident in Czech history was exactly what came to my mind when that word was mentioned.
@adamhemr7390
@adamhemr7390 3 жыл бұрын
@@annascott3542 you mean all 3 of the incidents? :D
@leepeel7129
@leepeel7129 2 жыл бұрын
In the days before Red Bull
@lowersaxon
@lowersaxon 2 жыл бұрын
Haha. Indeed! The Czechs are Etruscans!
@isaacshultz8128
@isaacshultz8128 2 жыл бұрын
Lol
@MyMomSaysImKeen
@MyMomSaysImKeen 4 жыл бұрын
Hey man. Youre genuinely one of my favorite history podcasts, and as a blind hermit I absorb them like Netflix fans do their new shows, and love how you've expanded lately. I was long tired of Rome, but your covering of the Republic, and Consuls ignited interest in it yet again. The same applies to the American Civil War. Are you ever going to cover Bronze Age Collapse topics? I'm particularly interested in the Luwians
@ThersitestheHistorian
@ThersitestheHistorian 4 жыл бұрын
Hi, I'm glad to hear that you enjoy my videos and the range of topics that I cover. I have been planning to cover both Gaius Terentius Varro and Narses for a while now, but I have been a bit too busy to pull it off in recent weeks. Right now, I am also working on videos for class focusing on Rome and I will probably share those at some point in the near future. As for the Bronze Age, that is something that I plan to cover for sure. I'm not sure when I will be able to cover the Luwians, Hittites, or any other Bronze Age people, but my guess would be that I will get around to topics like that by the end of summer or early fall.
@ian_b
@ian_b 4 жыл бұрын
@@ThersitestheHistorian Luwians would be interesting as they're a bit obscure.
@yarazooom
@yarazooom 2 жыл бұрын
@@ThersitestheHistorian THKU for delving into this subject. I believe if we look deeper into early Florence & Sienna we could get a better understanding of the context for their politics and society. in reference to the use of the word ''sacrifice'', this is a anti-matriarchal & racially loaded word. it draws the meaning into a 'barbaric' practice that is morally judged today. in contemporary times this word's meaning conveys a thirst for killing by pre-christian humans & 'senseless' murder. but truly this supposed lust for blood is romanticized to make humanity feel that we are progressively 'better' than our ancient or modern cousins. the fact remains that animals killed for religious reason were never wasted nor were they killed for the love of killing. all animals 'sacrificed' were given to someone to eat. if animal liver was used for religious reasons, that was just 1 small part 'given' to extract a spiritual value. I know this bcuz there are many cultures living today in Africa & Asia & Australia that are classified as Bronze Age culture, with religious practices dating back over 5000 years. modern humans may have changed biologically but emotionally we are NO different. we love & we lose loved ones & we grieve. Humanity could not have survived without the INTENTIONAL respect for Life that has followed us from the trees to the gardens to the fields of Civilization. not to say that Humanity is 'without sin' but in another context, how many lives have been 'sacrificed' to the Industrial Age of 'cheap labor' & the economic fuedal systems?
@ericcloud1023
@ericcloud1023 2 жыл бұрын
@@yarazooom Where is the racial "racist" context for the word "sacrifice"? You can't just claim a word as racist and then never elaborate! Lol. I don't want to assume this is some SJW BS....but I really don't see how race can be tied to something so universal as animal/human sacrifice for religious reasons
@ericcloud1023
@ericcloud1023 2 жыл бұрын
@@yarazooom Also "anti-matriarchial"? WTF? How?!?!?! How could it be construed as such? Seriously I know this comment was over a year old.....but wtf are you going on about here?!?!?!
@ohitsjustmegod5276
@ohitsjustmegod5276 4 жыл бұрын
I asked you about releasing an Etruscan video a couple of months ago. Ive been patiently waiting for this one since Etruscan history is so interesting. Great vid!
@kennylong7281
@kennylong7281 2 жыл бұрын
The English word "Window" derives directly from Germanic "Windloch", meaning "Wind Hole". The Germanic Langhaus, with live stock at one end, and humans at the other, had a hole in the middle of the roof for ventilation.
@Cynnas
@Cynnas 2 жыл бұрын
Middle English windowe: c. 1200, literally "wind eye," from Old Norse vindauga, from vindr "wind" + auga "eye". Replaced Old English eagþyrl, literally "eye-hole," and eagduru, literally "eye-door."
@markp44288
@markp44288 2 жыл бұрын
I thought Thersites was full of BS on that one.
@Sinsteel
@Sinsteel 2 жыл бұрын
I think he means the latin word for window, which we don't actually use in Germanic languages.
@KRisziFicaTion
@KRisziFicaTion 2 жыл бұрын
@@Sinsteel Well a window is called a fenster in german nowadays
@hia5235
@hia5235 Жыл бұрын
@@Sinsteel Uno reverse.
@histguy101
@histguy101 3 жыл бұрын
"All of Rome's seven original kings were Etruscan" I don't mean to be contrarian here, and even though Rome's kings are a mix of history, myth, and Legend, they weren't Etruscan. Romulus was supposedly from Alba Longa, who's co-ruler was Titus Tatius, a Sabine King. Numa Pompilius was said to be Sabine Tullus Hostilius was the son or Grandson of one of Romulus's companions Ancus Marcius was said to be the grandson of Numa and a prominent Plebian family. Lucius Tarquinius Priscus is the first of what is sometimes called the "Etruscan dynasty." Priscus was said to be the son of Demaratus of Corinth who travelled to Tarquinnia, but Priscus was not allowed to entire politics in the city because he was a Greek, so he travelled to Rome. Servius Tullius was related to his predecessor by marriage, and a whole heap of different legends, from being the son of a slave, to the son of a merchant, to a god. Tarquinius Superbus(Tarquin the Proud) was the son or grandson of Priscus. He went to the Etruscans after being overthrown, but when that failed, he exiled himself to the Greek city of Cumae. From his family would be the first 2 Consuls/Praetors. We only really have the literary evidence for these people existing and ruling, like Livy or Plutarch, and they don't speak of the kings being Etruscans(besides the father of Priscus settling in Tarquinnia).
@marisadallavalle393
@marisadallavalle393 2 жыл бұрын
This is the first time I've seen the first...kings... family backgrounds. How very interesting, thank you.
@predraglazic1478
@predraglazic1478 2 жыл бұрын
Yes but Sabines are actualy Sarbines,or Serbs.Common deliberate mistakes is to swolow the letter so the western schools can change the history as they want.They will newer admit that the Serbs were the apache of the europe.Oldest nation worldwide which gave the letter,language,and culture to all europian nations.Try Vinča,6000 years bc.They used to have same letter as we today.You can beat the stone.
@folk-comrade
@folk-comrade 2 жыл бұрын
@@predraglazic1478 :(
@silviosposito375
@silviosposito375 Жыл бұрын
Exactly. Only the last three kings of Rome (also Servius Tullius with his Latin name) could be named "Etruscan". We could add Porsenna who perhaps ruled Rome over some years. You can find many more news on this in my historical novel "Gli ultimi Re di Roma" the last Kings of Rome; a first english edition should be done the next year.
@charlesfenwick6554
@charlesfenwick6554 6 ай бұрын
@@predraglazic1478 go discuss your theories with an Albanian
@deprime3360
@deprime3360 2 жыл бұрын
History dude.Seriously glad i found ur site.Im an imsomniac who happens to love history. Great work. Thank you kindly.
@PointedStew73
@PointedStew73 3 жыл бұрын
Love from Tarquinia❤❤❤ This video is pure art❤
@Liphted
@Liphted 4 жыл бұрын
You can always use the word "defenestration" when talking about the "defenestration of Prague", look it up right now!
@itsolivier
@itsolivier 2 жыл бұрын
Weird that we don't see this today though it would have evolved with the elevation of towers
@timothyrday1390
@timothyrday1390 2 жыл бұрын
@@itsolivier I remember reading the term in the history books, but then I actually lived in Prague this year and saw the old Town Hall for myself. The tower and floors are really small so it makes sense now.
@wojciechgrodnicki6302
@wojciechgrodnicki6302 2 жыл бұрын
Fenestron is the name for a helicopter tail rotor.
@allangibson2408
@allangibson2408 2 жыл бұрын
@@wojciechgrodnicki6302 Because the rotor is in a window in the tail…
@paulmanson253
@paulmanson253 2 жыл бұрын
@@timothyrday1390 It was explained they survived due to a deep manure pile. I remember looking at a video of that wall and thinking that must have been one massive manure pile. Most likely horse, but not something a person willingly contacted. Better than breaking your neck,but....
@kweejibodali3078
@kweejibodali3078 2 жыл бұрын
excellent. thank you for excellent history and narrated at a good pace ( not at break neck speed )
@elizabethsoares1073
@elizabethsoares1073 7 ай бұрын
Excelente aula!!! Muito obrigada!
@Amc933
@Amc933 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent. Many thanks...
@cruisepaige
@cruisepaige 2 жыл бұрын
Very nice. Great job
@hoponpop3330
@hoponpop3330 2 жыл бұрын
When I was in Orvieto we had lunch in a little place were archeologists we digging out Etruscan ruins or a tomb. There was a big hole in the floor in 5he middle if the restaurant.
@alejandrogonzalez1532
@alejandrogonzalez1532 4 жыл бұрын
Great video, your work is very informational, educational, and direct, by the way-you should make a Discord server if you don't have one. Keep it up!
@ThersitestheHistorian
@ThersitestheHistorian 4 жыл бұрын
I have a Discord set up, but I can't access it from this device unfortunately. Remind me and I'll send you a link when I'm on my main computer.
@kennylong7281
@kennylong7281 2 жыл бұрын
One thing is for sure: They were under strong influence from early Hellenic culture. Their topless females resemble those of the Minoan culture. They may have started out as a very early colony of the seafaring Minoans.
@geordiejones5618
@geordiejones5618 2 жыл бұрын
I like to imagine cultural diffusion happened a lot earlier than we have proper documentation to support. Archaeology helps in this search but its impossible to know the full extent of cross cultural interaction prior to the Late Bronze Age when it reached its first golden age.
@federook78
@federook78 2 жыл бұрын
The Minoans are not Hellenic culture, though
@voiceofreason2674
@voiceofreason2674 2 жыл бұрын
Topless females? Oh hell yea I’m thinking we got Minoan culture on bourbon street with all our tiddy bars
@kweejibodali3078
@kweejibodali3078 2 жыл бұрын
i think that topless or nude females are common across different cultures of those periods
@turistomer3702
@turistomer3702 Жыл бұрын
They were proto Turkic and spoke Uraltaic Turkic, and were part of a huge confederacy and were related directly to the troyans /truva, as well as the cornish and Welsh in Britain
@user-mb2im5nv9r
@user-mb2im5nv9r 2 жыл бұрын
Interesting facts about best WISHES regards All of You keep the eccellent work congratulations
@DesertAres
@DesertAres 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent presentation on these always, ever mysterious people of no single historical concrete origin opinion. Seems every 10 or 20 years a new theory comes up about their origins.
@KarimDeLakarim
@KarimDeLakarim 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks man,your great .
@DangerfieldN
@DangerfieldN 2 жыл бұрын
I've been to Chiusi - they have some good tombs. They were holding the door of one open with the remains of an urn. Nice people too
@ellen4956
@ellen4956 5 ай бұрын
Thank you for another very enjoyable video! I've wondered about a possible connection between the Etruscans and the people of Crete. Maybe that's a long shot, but it seems possible and might be why no one can figure out what the language of Crete was circa Linear A. Just a thought.
@a.westenholz4032
@a.westenholz4032 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for that educating general overhaul on the Etruscans, a society often passed over (no doubt because of the scarcity of knowledge) in the rush to get to the Romans. However, as someone who has dealt with the problem of ancient historians as 'historians', i.e. how they practiced the craft differently than we do now not to mention how they may have had a different perception of the role of history altogether from our modern understanding, it is by no means certain that a historian would necessarily seek out someone qualified in Etruscan, or that we can know what help the local people would be likely to give such endeavours. One would also think that those who still retained a working knowledge of their language and culture several generations after Rome's conquest, would be those the least likely to want to work with a well educated Roman. Of course this is not my particular field, so I admit I don't have any personal knowledge of the degree of ancient scholarship these particular ancient historians were known for. I am more familiar with ancient Chinese historians, and their concept of history and scholarship. Which needless to say, except for a few sterling exceptions, was very different from our modern ideas on the subject.
@lookitsafish
@lookitsafish Жыл бұрын
I love this channel
@d.c.8828
@d.c.8828 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent lecture--thanks!
@rursus8354
@rursus8354 Жыл бұрын
Another known relative to Etruscan was Rhaetic, spoken in the Alps. "Window" is imported from old Norse "vindauga" (wind eye). While the Swedes say "fönster" (from fenestra), the Norwergians and Danish still say "vindu".
@williamgrosbach4237
@williamgrosbach4237 5 ай бұрын
(11:38) The word “constricted” has the primary meaning of tightened, narrowed, or squeezed. The word is sometimes used as an alternative to the word “constrained”, perhaps because the two words have been conflated. The word “constrained” has the primary meaning of restricted, with the implication of the restriction being severe. The far more common (and, so, less impressive) word “limited” would be a better choice here for the meaning that seems to have been intended. The word “restricted” is a possible alternative, carrying the suggestion of the limitation being imposed. As a general rule, it is stylistically superior in English to choose the simplest and most common words that convey the desired meaning.
@kimberlypatton9634
@kimberlypatton9634 2 жыл бұрын
I had to laugh at your home ..what went through my mind when you first mentioned the paragraph .. the Estruscansalso must get all the credit for subvented the concept of an "HOA"!
@Master-vv4gn
@Master-vv4gn 4 жыл бұрын
Could you do a video on the Elamites? I think there interesting but I don't know much about them
@ThersitestheHistorian
@ThersitestheHistorian 4 жыл бұрын
Perhaps.
@ceterfo
@ceterfo 2 жыл бұрын
I use the word defenestrate as an example when I talk to people about how precise the English language actually is and the fact that words we don't have but recognize a use for we add to our lexicon and astounding rate in the modern era.
@Trenz0
@Trenz0 2 жыл бұрын
Never heard that word before. Might be my favorite word of all time now lol. What an amazing definition
@path1024
@path1024 Жыл бұрын
If one source says they came from Lydia and they spoke a language related to one from Lemnos, which is off the west coast of Lydia, then I think that's the most likely source. If they were only 10% influenced by Celts I think the Latins might have seen them as very Celtic. As for natives, it's likely they mixed with the locals. That explains all three theories to me.
@GhostSal
@GhostSal 4 ай бұрын
I don’t think the Latins saw them as Celts because recent DNA studies have shown they shared a common genetic lineage. The Romans did however call northern Italy Gallia Cisalpina (Gallia= Gauls Cisalpina= on this side of the Alps). Which was referring to the people and land just north of the Etruscans.
@ScythianGryphon
@ScythianGryphon 4 жыл бұрын
Nice choice of topic, Thersites! As for the origins of Etruscans, don't bother yourself too much with theories. Etruscans were probably just ancient aliens!
@wilhelmederveen9265
@wilhelmederveen9265 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the well-presented and informative lectures. However, I do notice some inconsistencies when comparing to Wikipedia as well as other podcasts concerning the period. For one, in this episode: Veii is located to the north/northwest of Rome instead of east along the Tiber as you state (wiki). Also, in your lecture on the early history of Rome you depict Brennus as leveling the scales in favor of the Romans while both historical sources on wiki (Livy) and a podcast on the history of Rome state that Brennus threw his sword on the weight-side of the scale, thus increasing the ransom; leading to the famous 'Vae Victis' statement. Just pointing out these minor discrepancies, love your work.
@marcelogartner9450
@marcelogartner9450 2 жыл бұрын
I missed what I could find in Tuscanny such as the sofisticated commerce,rich religion and advanced mechant marine. By the way,window in italian is finestra. I visited a beautiful anphitheatre. Sensational!
@kweejibodali3078
@kweejibodali3078 2 жыл бұрын
wiki has been known to be wrong, sometimes using incorrect sources, or leaving out some information
@marcelogartner9450
@marcelogartner9450 2 жыл бұрын
@@kweejibodali3078 I rarely use wiki,I use my kwoledge and more thsn 30 years of studying and reading. Several etrurian words were put in usage by latin speakers but I've never seen or read anything about Ilyria. They,etrurians , had a sophisticated society. The romans hated their guts and slaughtered most of them and poured salt on most of their agriculture soil. In italian the word for window is ,"finestre",etrurian.
@orcuttnyc
@orcuttnyc 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks.
@annascott3542
@annascott3542 4 жыл бұрын
What is the reason for the sunken roads?
@lidiabano4698
@lidiabano4698 2 жыл бұрын
Isnt that similar/same as Vincan alphabet? danube region which predates all these letters.
@loods2215
@loods2215 4 жыл бұрын
Niceeee i come from their land, I literally go to tarquinia every summer
@voltairines6352
@voltairines6352 2 жыл бұрын
Chiusi is pronounced Kiusi. Italian CH sound is very different.
@enricomanno8434
@enricomanno8434 2 жыл бұрын
Yes... even if you write in English technology.. Ch.. you pronounce as K.
@XIXCentury
@XIXCentury Жыл бұрын
@@enricomanno8434 technology
@jennabassil6108
@jennabassil6108 4 жыл бұрын
The Etruscan word for window has a very similar sound to the way I have heard my Swedish mother pronounce window in her 1st language of Swedish. The spelling is extremely different than how it sounds. I am aware that there are some very extremely different dialects in this small country due to spending some time there. It is hard in some situations for one dialect to understand another. I have heard this similar pronunciation in Stockholm. Spelling the word as I have heard it pronounced sounds like Fensterett or Fenstrett or a slight F+V sound in the beginning of the pronunciation. We also have a very celebrated holiday on 12/13 called Santa Lucia which looks very much like some Italian celebrations I have been interested in looking into lately. Very interesting!
@aadarshbalireddy2939
@aadarshbalireddy2939 3 жыл бұрын
Etruscan word for god "Aesir" will probably sound similar to a norse person as well. Think it's just a coincidence though
@lornalong6468
@lornalong6468 2 жыл бұрын
Swedish word for window is 'fönster' the window - fönstret the windows - fönstren The ö sound = ur or uh (as in the English word fur) French has 'fenêtre' which is a bit closer and as we know England spoke French for many years having French speaking nobility.
@MegaTang1234
@MegaTang1234 3 жыл бұрын
28:44 I'm confused, the slide says Third Samnite war but you said Third Punic war.
@ArkadiBolschek
@ArkadiBolschek 2 жыл бұрын
7:29 I'll keep that in mind if I visit Prague.
@GhostSal
@GhostSal 4 ай бұрын
Interesting history and a lot of debate on the subject. I would like to point out that the Latíni weren’t “related” to the Romans, they were the Ancient Romans.
@ThePinkus
@ThePinkus 3 жыл бұрын
26:25 I've just realized that the current name Cerveteri means nothing else than Caere Veteri, that being (the) Old Caere...
@iart2838
@iart2838 2 жыл бұрын
Seems as though they had contact with Egypt based on art
@TheEvolver311
@TheEvolver311 8 ай бұрын
Not really. Their art is far more naturalized Egyptian art is very ridged and formulaic with depictions having cultural and religious significance and hence not allowing for breaking with those standards. Those are very much influenced by Greek art.
@mariateresaancona8027
@mariateresaancona8027 2 жыл бұрын
Very well explained. I personally live close to one of the once Etruscan colonies. Please learn to pronounce the cities correctly...this will allow those watching, learn the importance of saying the names of the cities as they should be said. Other than that, the video is excellent...thank you.
@silviosposito375
@silviosposito375 Жыл бұрын
Only the last three Kings of Rome were "Etruscan". Read my historical novel "Gli ultimi Re di Roma" i.e. the last Kings of Rome; the first english edition is in progress. There is a new research about their language that seems to be related to the Kartvelian or south-caucasian languages (Georgian, Svan, Mingrelian, Laz). Also the Urartian language perhaps belonged to the same family, and so for that of the Hatti people, who inhabited central and eastern Anatolia before the Hittites' arrival in the region. Much work for scholars!
@chanaheszter168
@chanaheszter168 2 жыл бұрын
Veii roof decorations look very, very Greek. Any info on that?
@Happy_HIbiscus
@Happy_HIbiscus 2 жыл бұрын
dude, this is cool
@shoujocafe6757
@shoujocafe6757 4 жыл бұрын
Fuckin' love this videos so much. Roman history is so awesome ! Viva Roma!!!
@S3aCa1mRa1n
@S3aCa1mRa1n 4 жыл бұрын
Hello, Why did Titus Livius call the Etruscans the Luceres tribe ? There were only 3 tribes during the romulean times.
@magomedteps9372
@magomedteps9372 13 күн бұрын
Александр Моисеевич Пятигорский (р. 1928) - востоковед, философ, писатель. В 1973 году эмигрировал из СССР. С 1974 года жил в Лондоне. В этом году издательство «Новое литературное обозрение» планирует переиздание сборника прозы, а также перевод монографии «Who's Afraid of Freemasons? The Phenomenon of Freemasonry» (London, 1997).Александр Моисеевич Пятигорский: «Надо убить сначала всех, а потом заниматься пацифизмом.Такова метафора новой масонской ложи политической философии. Ты согласен, да? Но в то же время я выступаю за какую-то гармонию. И это соответствие человека и мира неразрывно связано с моим представлением об этногенезе. Когда чеченцы стали жить в своих тесных ущельях, тогда еще не было ни древних германцев, ни римлян, ни античных финикийцев (греков) - никого. И впоследствии никакие мимопроходящие монголы (китайцы), тюрки, индоевропейцы с севера и с юга не смогли чеченцев выгнать оттуда. Даже Сталину это не удалось, ибо Хрущев вернул незаконно наказанный народ на его место жительства».Из работы докторанта Института востоковедения Российской академии Наук. З.Х.Ибрагимовой:« во всей Евразии только у чеченцев и англичан генетический показатель нуклеотидной замены G  6 N16336 не равен нулю, у чеченцев он самый высокий 0.154, а у англичан составляет 0.014, у всех остальных народов он равен 0.0000…(академическим критикам нашей работы «Древняя Англия и Чеченцы» 1997-го года - А.Д.М.) писал в XIX столетии майор Властов: ". Сходство на территории древнего чеченского аланского народа Чианти этрусков (цанар) империи слов с латинскими, немецкими и английскими поразительно. Скажу более: я нашел в чеченском языке формы, встречающиеся только в образованнейших языках древнего мира. Я говорю об употреблении дательного с причастием и двух дательных независимых с причастием, которые согласованы с одним из них". Оригинальные бронзовые манжетовидные браслеты из тонкого гладкого листа, найденные у аула Сержень-Юрт (Чечня) не имеют аналогий ни в ближайшем культурном окружении, ни на Кавказе вообще. Их цилиндрический контур с острыми отогнутыми наружу краями отдаленно напоминает лишь западноевропейские браслеты из ранних памятников унетицкого круга. Это самые поздние отзвуки связей Северного Кавказа с культурами средней бронзы Центральной Европы. Перстни с двойными спиралями - одно из проявлений влияния ранней культуры Средиземноморья на Северный Кавказ через Центральную Европу (15; с.99; 115). географ Риттер, уже в XIX веке полагал, что " человеческий род людской мог расселиться по земному шару только из Кавказа, как центра своего...". Предания о выходе из страны элл нахов (алан) Азов сохранилось даже в древних скандинавских сагах, где часто говорится о стране элл нахов (алан)"Азов" и городе Азов, жители которых перенесли с юга язык, религию, сказания старой Скандинавии (16; с.2).Одним из первых высказал эту догадку майор Властов: "Чеченцы древний арийский народ, индоевропейское племя, их родство с народами Германского происхождения не подлежит сомнению. При некоторой смелости их даже можно назвать потомками сакральной территории древнего чеченского аланского народа Чианти этрусков (цанар) империи крестоносцев" (5; с.689)».​
@EasternOrthodox101
@EasternOrthodox101 Жыл бұрын
I will explain who they are exactly: The discovery of Tartessos has been one of the most important recent discoveries in Mediterranean archaeology, showing that the Tartessians were in many ways the equivalent of the Etruscans in Italy. So far they have only been known from a couple of obscure reference in Herodotos, but now archaeology is uncovering this remarkable civilisation, comparing Tartessos with the Etruscans. Both cultures are considered to be unknown mysteries, both languages are undicifered yet based on the Phoenician alphabet, AND both belonged to the same world's trade route of their Phoenician (Canaanites) partners: Tyre --> Tarsus --> Cartage --> Etruria --> Tartessos Tarshish is not just a name of one place, it is a nation, a greek sub-race of people, and all that proves that the people of Tarsus-anatolia, Etruscans of Italy & Corsica, and the Tartessians of south Spain, Gibraltar are in fact one people who gave their name to all 3 places: TARSHISH The geographer Strabo states that Tarsus was founded by people from Argos who were exploring this coast- another proof of Greek origins. Recent DNA research appears to show that at least part of the Etruscan population was related to people in Asia Minor, similar DNA tests on goats and cattle suggest Herodotus was right about Anatolian origins Old languages have called Etruscans by different names. The Romans calledthem Tursci or Etrusci. In Attic Greek they were called Tyrrhenians. The related name Teresh was used by the Egyptians, who also knew them as "Sea People" DNA analysis of Etruscan remains has revealed their links to northern Anatolia, whereTroy was located. The latest genetic finds in a few isolated towns in Tuscany have showncloser genetic ties to ancient Anatolia among the living population, unlike what is common in the rest of Italy. That points to their earlier home, before their coming to Italy. And since the Dardanoi derived their name from Dardanus (Dodanim), the founder of Dardania, an ancient city in the Troad, and Rule of the Troad was divided between Dardania and Troy + Homer makes a clear distinction between the Trojans and the Dardanoi- means that: Troy = Etruscan colony Dardania = Dorian colony -->2 sub-races of Greeks (Yavan) The root for Tarshish in the Semitic hebrew language of the bible is RSS, which quite resembles the name the Etruscans used for themselves: Rasana
@nisantasicoocugu216
@nisantasicoocugu216 Жыл бұрын
tarsus and myrtle where the Etruscans lived. Today, the kurgans remaining from the Etruscans and many artistic masterpieces are exhibited in the city museum of Mersin. Tarsus is a very old, very important city. The name of tarsus is frequently mentioned in the Jewish narratives of the Early Christianity and Babylonian Exile. It is even said that the ark of the covenant is in Tarsus. but above all you should not ignore the fact that the Etruscans were actually one of the ancient Turkish peoples. Because they called themselves "children of asana" or turchi. The Italians, on the other hand, named Anatolia as turchia, the land of the Turks. The inscriptions in the Etruscan alphabet and the Orkhon monuments in Mongolia dated to the 4th century AD have the same alphabet and writing style. Contrary to the so-called European historians, it is very easy to read the Etruscan script and even to speak with the same voices for someone who can understand the old Turkish. written from right to left. The midas monument in the city of Eskisehir, Turkey, and the "man rocks" steles in the city of Mersin are also artifacts from the Etruscans. you should examine the "pazirik kurgan" and other ancient Turkish ruins with the same architectural and aesthetic understanding of the Turks living in Central Asia living in the same time period.
@EasternOrthodox101
@EasternOrthodox101 Жыл бұрын
@@nisantasicoocugu216 No, that's is the most ridiculous thing I have ever heard in my life. The Turkic Ottomans who were multiracial Turkic people, unlike the original Turkic peoples like Turkmens etc. came to anatolia AFTER the Romans and weren't there in ancient times, so please don't re-write history because that is very bad and annoying. Etruscans are 1 of the 4 races of Greeks called Tarshish and Tarsus was their 1st colony. Latins/Romans/Italics were another one, called Dodanim, Hellas were called Elisha, and Macedonians - Kittim
@nisantasicoocugu216
@nisantasicoocugu216 Жыл бұрын
@@EasternOrthodox101 turkmen is not diffetent nation, or else yörük / Azeri / kazak / Kuman / peçenek / we all turk. Same language not different each other. But fins And magyars yes different than us present day. Just 1500 years ago we all speak same language btw. For example my name is Emre Arpad, Magyars called imre Also my surname came from Great King of Arpad… turkish version Emre Arpad / Magyars İmre Arpad.
@nisantasicoocugu216
@nisantasicoocugu216 Жыл бұрын
@@EasternOrthodox101 btw Tarsus never been greek city, they were semi control of romans but judea also roman state but they were israelites not latin or greek. Tarsus name was came king of tarzu (kizzuvatna era) far before romans..
@nisantasicoocugu216
@nisantasicoocugu216 Жыл бұрын
@@EasternOrthodox101 btw İ was born and living in Tarsus now 🤣 im phd history student my profession proto turkic and near east history. I can read ancient greek and I can understand mostly / also I can speak Assyrians and Hebrew. Turkish Jewish here btw
@magomedteps9372
@magomedteps9372 13 күн бұрын
Еще в 1913 году на сакральной территории древнего чеченского аланского народа Чианти этрусков (цанар) империи г. Калаки (Тифлисе) в канцелярии наместника Его императорского величества на Кавказе вышла книга, Константина Михайловича Туманова с названием "О доисторическом языке Закавказья".Автор, приводя в доказательство огромное количество топонимов (названий гор, рек, хребтов, ущелий, поселений и других географических объектов), а также данных из исторических трудов древних авторов, летописей, преданий, археологических и прочих материалов, приходит к однозначному выводу о том, что предки чеченцев были самым первым населением на территории всего Закавказья и южнее в плоть до Африканского континента. Эрибун (Ереван) название это территории древнего чеченского аланского народа Чианти этрусков (цанар) империи , переводится исключительно на чеченский язык - в далине изба, дом, хижина.Известный исследователь В.П. Алексеев в своих изысканиях подтверждает, что этруски - урарты представляют собой не только физических но и языковых предков чеченцев. В последнем издании материалов по истории СССР также отмечается о том, что ( урартский - этруский) принадлежит к особой языковой семье, наиболее близким к ним является современный чеченский язык. М.Л. Хачикян, Мар.Н.Я. в своих научных трудах отмечают о том, что Древней Передней Азии, начиная с середины 3-го тысячелетия до.н.эры, до-конца 1-го тысячелетия д.н.эры территории древнего чеченского аланского народа Чианти этрусков (цанар) империи был тем народом, культурное влияние которых на остальные народы данного региона в плоть до Египта и Северного Средиземноморья, было доминирующим. Культурное влияние предков чеченцев (урарто - этрусков) на европейские народы не ограничивалось данными языка.Такие мировые произведения литературы и фольклeра, как " Миф о сотворении мира", "Миф о Пигмалионе", "Миф о Прометее" и другие по мнению большинства мировых ученных возникли в пeрвые у древнего народа Месопoтамии, ныне представленных на Кавказе.Чеченцы (Нахчи).Именно на территории древнего чеченского аланского народа Чианти этрусков (цанар) империи в Месопотамии в частности Урарту зародилась школа и университет, где обучали различным наукам, письму, счету, геометрии, алгебре.Были найдены клинописные таблички, свидетельствующие о знаниях чеченцев в этих научных областях.В одной из них доказывается теорема о подобии прямоугольных треугольников, которую приписывают финикийскому (греческому) ученному Евклиду. Историкам стало известно, что на территории древнего чеченского аланского народа Чианти этрусков Чианти (цанар) империи городе Шадумуме (Урарту) её приняли за 17 веков до Евклида. Обнаружены также математические таблицы, с помощью которых они умножали, извлекали квадратные корни, возводили различные степени, выполняли деление и вычисляли проценты.
@gavinpeters5418
@gavinpeters5418 2 жыл бұрын
woven into thus is the feeling of Egyptians.. too
@selvoselvo1
@selvoselvo1 2 жыл бұрын
5:06 cannot find a latin root for window, word is from old norse. Fenestra? Oh i see it get explained later.
@tugger
@tugger 3 жыл бұрын
how did I miss this?
@xmaniac99
@xmaniac99 4 жыл бұрын
Etruscan borrowed the Greek alfabet ... euh no it really it is the Phoenican alphabet that was borrowed. Etruscan where literate before the Greek colonization. Also the is a massive amount of semtic loanwords from semitic langauages ... familiar names (like the etruscan written word for daughter), numberals, etc. Insights have changed here in the couple of decades.
@histguy101
@histguy101 3 жыл бұрын
It doesn't really matter who they borrowed it from. At the time they borrowed it, there were both Greeks and Phoenicians trading up and down the Tyrhennian coast. Historians say they borrowed it from the Greeks because it's more closely aligned with the Greek versions of that alphabet, and Etruscan art and culture was so Hellenized. By the time there is the earliest evidence of a culture known as Etruscan, Greek colonization and maritime trade had been going on, and what is known as the "Phoenician Alphabet" was spreading around the Mediterranean. The Phoenicians didn't invent the alphabet. It originated in Egypt, and was used next in the Levant(by the Arameans, Ammonites, Moabites, Israelites, Canaanites, etc, and spread out from there supplanting early writing systems.
@silviosposito375
@silviosposito375 Жыл бұрын
The etruscan alphabet (there are many variants) derives directly from the most ancient used in Italy, the greek-euboic of the isle of Pithecousa (to day Ischia).
@xmaniac99
@xmaniac99 Жыл бұрын
@@silviosposito375 those are outdated insights. it is commonly accepted the Etruscans where literate before the first Greek colonists brought their own borrowed Phoenician alphabet with them.
@wolf_pd
@wolf_pd 2 жыл бұрын
Upvote for the defenestration positivity!
@ellcaa4220
@ellcaa4220 4 жыл бұрын
1. Do you have/do you plan to have an "official" twitter for this channel? 2. Regarding your roman emperors tier list - you should have put Poopy Anus in S tier. EASILY. I mean, the guy probably spent the entire high school shoved into a locker. And yet, he not only managed to grow up to be a functioning adult (which by itself was an amazing achievement with his name), but also became a roman emperor on top of that! So considering the shitty hand his parents dealt him, he easily is the most impressive guy in human history. 3. I'm from Silesia. We're one of the three historical regions of the crown of saint Vaclav. We know aaaaall about defenestration c:
@ThersitestheHistorian
@ThersitestheHistorian 4 жыл бұрын
twitter.com/ThersitesAthens I'm not sure if it is "official" or not, but it is the only Twitter account that I use on the rare occasions that I sally forth into that cesspool. Pupienus went to a fancy prep school academy and had his paedagogus whip anyone who made disparaging remarks about his surname.
@Bookstorewalla
@Bookstorewalla 4 ай бұрын
Perhaps most importantly person/persona/personality: Etymonline lists it as related to Latin `personare`, meaning "to sound through", tentatively originating from Etruscan p(h)ersu ("mask").
@ruraledition
@ruraledition 2 жыл бұрын
The Etruscans grew wheat on the flat plains of northern agricultural fields.
@sfbadboy
@sfbadboy 2 жыл бұрын
What of Max Igan stating the language was Magyar?
@magomedteps9372
@magomedteps9372 13 күн бұрын
Самого древнего времени до начала новой эры на территории древнего чеченского аланского народа Чианти этрусков (цанар) империи полуострове Крым стоял Vl легион (железный) который построил лагерь в Рафанее, что в южной Сирии, там Vl легион стоял на протяжении примерно 150 лет. Отсюда Vl легион "железный" перебрасываются на боевые операции - в самые разные точки Европы и Азии. Этих операций в биографии Vl легиона "железный" было немало. Это и две кампании консула Гани Да Моци Корбулона в 54-58 и 62 гг. н.э., и неудачный поход наместника Сирии - Галла на Иерусалим в 66-м, и, напротив, закончившийся успехом поход во время его войны с византийской державой и арабским халифатом. Из территории древнего чеченского аланского народа Чианти этрусков (цанар) империи Италии, готовый уже вернуться на свою Сирийскую базу Vl легион "железный", неожиданно перебрасывают в дунайскую Мёзию, где Vl легион "железный" на камне не оставляют от прорвавших легиона Героев. kzbin.info/www/bejne/nZmzoaOtd56AhqM
@danvitale1825
@danvitale1825 5 ай бұрын
what does BCE mean?
@petercroves8562
@petercroves8562 4 жыл бұрын
It is too bad the works of Emperor Claudius 1st, were lost, he made a full history of the people, History ETC, With that all the guesswork and refinding what he put down would not have been needed!
@ThersitestheHistorian
@ThersitestheHistorian 4 жыл бұрын
Agreed. Cato the Elder apparently dedicated four of the books of the Origines to the Etruscans as well. I can't help but think that if Claudius' work on the Etruscans and Carthaginians had survived, that his reputation as an emperor would be higher.
@sneeringimperialist6667
@sneeringimperialist6667 2 жыл бұрын
I'd like to see a dna study. Their paintings often show them as having pale blue eyes and light but not blonde hair .
@c.l.a.u.d.e
@c.l.a.u.d.e 2 жыл бұрын
Considering men were all depicted with dark hair, while blonde only appears on women who were renowed for their use of sophisticated cosmetics, it'd be in line with their supposed origin in Asia Minor. Dying hair blonde used to be a custom among Romans, so they could have inherited that from Etruscans as with many other elements of their culture.
@grandmastertaco3022
@grandmastertaco3022 4 жыл бұрын
Much better audio levels on this one.
@ThersitestheHistorian
@ThersitestheHistorian 4 жыл бұрын
The ATR mic works a lot better with PowerPoint than with Discord/OBS for whatever reason. I just got a new mic today, so I guess we'll see if it is an improvement.
@corettaha7855
@corettaha7855 4 жыл бұрын
GrandMasterTaco good point. I thought he’d have a real mic by now. But no.
@florenceneri8240
@florenceneri8240 Ай бұрын
J'adore cette vidéo sur les étrusque
@magomedteps9372
@magomedteps9372 13 күн бұрын
Мировые ученые (среди них - всемирно известные Г.Горбигер и К.Гаусгоффер), которые доказали такую концепцию; Арийцы, в том числе и предки германцев, как раса зародились 30-40 тысяч лет назад в восточной Азии, там, где ныне находится пустыня Гоби. Там процветала высокая цивилизация, которая затем погибла в результате катастрофы, приведшей к появлению пустыни. Часть на территории древнего чеченского аланского народа Чианти этрусков (цанар) империи, посвященная в тайные черные знания, осталась на Тибете, в Шамбале. Остальные переселились на Кавказ. Затем на территории древнего чеченский аланский народ Чианти этрусков (цанар) империя продвинулась в Северную Европу, а на Кавказе остался Асгард - очаг на территории древнего чеченского аланского народа Чианти этрусков (цанар) империи дух, где сохранилась Чистая арийская кровь. Там - арийский корень. Это священная земля всех предков арийцев, говорящих теперь на разных языках. На Кавказе в Асгарде сосредоточилось все Позитивное, что таит в себе древнего чеченского арийского народа республики кровь -такова была основа господствовавше го в Германии учения, которое, по словам Гитлера, было даже чем-то большим, чем религия.108 И здесь древнему чеченскому народу наступает момент удивиться, ибо из дальнейшего мы узнаем, что хранителями "духа Асгарда чистой арийской крови" был воспринята сакральная территория древнего чеченского аланского народа Чианти этрусков (цанар) империи. kzbin.info/www/bejne/rYuoeHWgeKdsbqs
@alexshulha9236
@alexshulha9236 2 жыл бұрын
Can I post this video to my KZbin channel with translation to Ukrainian language for ukrainian speaking community?
@pavelavietor1
@pavelavietor1 4 жыл бұрын
Hello they are you. Saludos
@angeloavanti2538
@angeloavanti2538 2 жыл бұрын
my family dna comes directly from around the town of nola italy. no where else. we often thing of ourselves of etruscan. also that the conglomerate romans, who really had no culture of their own, took, stole and borrowed a lot of things from us including art, engineering, etc,,, our town of nola is on a plateau and it is walled. to this day our family name is on a few buildings there. so much more. the romans did a good job of wiping out our history to claim it for themselves.
@marisadallavalle393
@marisadallavalle393 2 жыл бұрын
It was the Etruscans built Rome, and whatever culture the Romans acquired came from the Greeks. How is it then that the Romans are so self-obsessed like they invented the world.
@BoycottChinaa
@BoycottChinaa 2 жыл бұрын
Tyrolian mountains northern Italy.. similar to their Greek name ?
@nickkuiper32
@nickkuiper32 2 жыл бұрын
The Etruscan writing/letters look very similar to Phenician and Nordic Runes.
@docter554
@docter554 2 жыл бұрын
They are all related
@turistomer3702
@turistomer3702 Жыл бұрын
They were really called tursakans and spoke Uraltaic Turkic, around 900 years later when the swedes/vikings became part of the GÖKTÜRK KHAGANATE and adopted the Göktürk alphabet with its runes and many Turkic words like Odin>odun(light/fire), and names like Thor, Hakan etc..
@XIXCentury
@XIXCentury Жыл бұрын
@@turistomer3702 I can't enjoy a single video without a Turkish revisionist making up claims.
@turistomer3702
@turistomer3702 Жыл бұрын
@@XIXCentury it is what it is, the etruscans spoke Uraltaic - Turkic, DNA studies show a whopping 98% match between the Turkish and the Etruscans and this study was undertaken by several Italian universities, the Turkish language has two main branches ; uralic( in reference to Ural mou rain range in Siberia), which is spoken by many of the nordics and European countries including Sweden and yes I know the Swedish language technicaly is German but it has so many (several thousand) Turkish words and uses the turcic runetic alphabet and the Turkic tengric belief system, hence Turkic names like ODIN, Thor, Hakan etc., When after the fall of troy, a party of trojans went back to the nordics and were received by the Swedish King Gyfyr, whom referred to them as Turcus and called them sons of Odin and said that his Turcus brethren had been living in center of the earth (in those days modern day Türkey was referred to as such in the nordics) and said that they had been tricked by a wooden horse and gave up his throne at once. Re:Swen Sturlesson Swen Lagerbring ( Lagerbring is an actual and a prominent historian and his works are far more comprehensive).
@glennwetherbee4495
@glennwetherbee4495 2 жыл бұрын
Is BCE pc for BC?
@alphaomega1173
@alphaomega1173 Жыл бұрын
Yeah it's ridiculous
@TexasViking_INFP-t_5w4
@TexasViking_INFP-t_5w4 2 жыл бұрын
Genius
@triciasomogyi5431
@triciasomogyi5431 2 жыл бұрын
❤️👍
@davegunner5670
@davegunner5670 2 жыл бұрын
I was one of them I am sure of it.
@TRUTHRULES777
@TRUTHRULES777 4 ай бұрын
🦉❤️
@isis082008
@isis082008 3 жыл бұрын
Italian..dalla finestra ... from the window!
@Sinsteel
@Sinsteel 2 жыл бұрын
Is the statue at 20:00 wearing a Celtic torque? lol (It is). Celtic women were pretty damn liberated btw.
@TheEvolver311
@TheEvolver311 8 ай бұрын
Nor really a sign of anything other than the woman wealthy enough to have a statue of herself made was also wealthy enough to have imported jewelry
@adizmal
@adizmal 4 жыл бұрын
Best defenestration scene in any movie is that one in Braveheart where the king comes back home and he's like, fuck this, and throws his fruity son's boyfriend/advisor out of the window, absolute savage. IRL I think the Czechs had a thing for it at one point too, can't remember and not gonna wiki.
@E.J813
@E.J813 2 жыл бұрын
🇹🇷if possible can you put subtitles, thanks
@robertferguson2468
@robertferguson2468 Жыл бұрын
Way too many ads. Love the content but bailed halfway through due to too many ad interruptions
@Odessia-ij5ys
@Odessia-ij5ys 2 жыл бұрын
Volterra was One of thier cities
@itsonmute
@itsonmute 2 жыл бұрын
Is it "fenestra" or "window" that supposedly has Etruscan origins? Because "window" seems to have Nordic roots.
@Sinsteel
@Sinsteel 2 жыл бұрын
Chariots make it a slam-dunk, they're Indo-European, regardless if the group they merged with kept the dominant language. Some of their stuff is SO Greek in style. Also wtf are they doing worshipping Apollo if we don't know where they came from?
@KeytarKris
@KeytarKris 2 жыл бұрын
Totally where the Ancient Greek rich and famous spent their summer holidays. Kinda like the Hamptons of the 1st to 2nd millennium BCE
@corettaha7855
@corettaha7855 4 жыл бұрын
Can’t believe the teacher told me to throw a man through a window 😱
@erz888
@erz888 4 жыл бұрын
would you say that society in pre-unification-under-Rome Italy was similar to the one in Greece? why does it "feel" less significant?
@cv4809
@cv4809 4 жыл бұрын
Because they didn't bother to record and document their history like Greeks did
@AnerLucero
@AnerLucero 4 жыл бұрын
Came here to write the same comment. The "dynamics" look similar. @C V maybe their records didn't survive.
@cv4809
@cv4809 4 жыл бұрын
@@AnerLucero if Greek records survived through the Roman conquest, there was no reason for the Etruscan records not to survive.
@AnerLucero
@AnerLucero 4 жыл бұрын
@@cv4809 bad luck
@ThersitestheHistorian
@ThersitestheHistorian 4 жыл бұрын
It seems to be a combination of a lack of historical engagement and bad luck in terms of what ended up surviving. The Romans were also lax with historical memory until the 3rd Century BCE.
@martinfalkjohansson5204
@martinfalkjohansson5204 4 жыл бұрын
Window is not from Etruscan origin, I think you mean the latin fenestra that is of Etruscan origin - window is from old norse, funnily enough, modern day nordic languages use a term derived from the latin fenestra (fönster/fønster).
@martinfalkjohansson5204
@martinfalkjohansson5204 4 жыл бұрын
And that is why one should not comment too early....
@Odessia-ij5ys
@Odessia-ij5ys 2 жыл бұрын
They lived in the region of Toscana and Lazio
@katehobbs2008
@katehobbs2008 2 жыл бұрын
Confusing that you keep referring to the 6th century etc, not the 6th century BC. Obviously the Etruscan civilisation was long gone by the 6th century AD but this would confuse many listeners.
@captnthracian2501
@captnthracian2501 2 жыл бұрын
Rassi or Rashani Check Vinca culture Find also Achille vase pictures and you will see on Zevs also 4c with Cross Serbona have it in few nations also Babylon or Vavilon same. DNA showing a lot with I2a Dinaric DNA
@turistomer3702
@turistomer3702 Жыл бұрын
The Etruscans or the TÜRSAKA as they were called spoke Turkic-Uraltaic, the name TÜRSAKA means Turkic sheep herders, Asenna which they referred to sometimes is named after their homeland on the shores of the caspian sea, it is also the name of the promised land in the hereafter, and the name of the she-wolf that would lead them there.
@magomedteps9372
@magomedteps9372 13 күн бұрын
По поводу исторической территории древнего чеченского аланского народа Чианти этрусков (цанар) империи. Некоторым историкам не плохо было прочитать уже давно доказанную историю в написанной книги ЭЛЛ НАХОВ ЯЗЫК КЛЮЧ К ЭТРУССКИМ ТАЙНАМ автор Плиев. Р.С. Плиев приводит исторические факты найденные многими учеными историками,где рассказывает о древних названиях не итальянских населенных пунктов таких,как ШАЛИ ВАЛЕРК ..и.т.д. В этой книге так же есть названия территории древнего чеченского аланского народа Чианти этрусков (цанар) империи местностей рек,имена мужчин и женщин, и многое др. kzbin.info/www/bejne/nYOtg2x3p5qGpc0
@blerimsyla7483
@blerimsyla7483 4 ай бұрын
Etruscan or tosci are abanian tribe did somebody compare just for curiosity
@Sinsteel
@Sinsteel 2 жыл бұрын
We know where they came from because they had horses and chariots. Anyone who knows the ancient world knows where those came from. Maybe they joined a local group and for some reason took their language. Didn't they also pass some clearly Indo-European gods on to the Romans?
@TheEvolver311
@TheEvolver311 8 ай бұрын
Horses and Chariots had spread into wider use bring adopted by non Indo-European peoples before the dawn of written history.
@Fatherofheroesandheroines
@Fatherofheroesandheroines 3 жыл бұрын
There's been a few people I met I wanted to definastrate...like the Gauls
@dulcemoutinho1651
@dulcemoutinho1651 3 жыл бұрын
a seculo = 100 years
@2coryman
@2coryman 2 жыл бұрын
Lemnos and the Minoans, The Etruscans were related to the Minoans of Crete
@mirke1234
@mirke1234 2 жыл бұрын
In Serbian liver is called: jetra. In proto-slavic etro. Sanskrit: antra. Why saying this? Well, it sounds like Etruscans, people working with livers.
@SacredDreamer
@SacredDreamer 2 жыл бұрын
I wondered if they were Rus - (Russia area ... But good call on the language phonetics. Their Goddess "Uni" is the Roman "Juno". Tonal affliction change on the vowels - "accent"
@SacredDreamer
@SacredDreamer 2 жыл бұрын
Liver - divination - and they have that bronze sheep liver which shows the celestial houses and what God and goddess lives where and in what house.
@jolantagenowefaukaszek6582
@jolantagenowefaukaszek6582 Ай бұрын
Etruski Tarchon pomaga Eneaszowi w zdobyciu księżniczki z Liwinium i tronu tego trojañskiego protoplasty Rzymu. Ciekawe, że Jego pochodzenie okazało się ... italskie, a nie kreteńskie wg. wyroczni.
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