Etzanoa: the Lost City

Sandra Randel, Interim Project Director Etzanoa, spoke to the Wichita Pachyderm Club April 5, 2019, about Etzanoa: the Lost City-the Great Settlement of the Wichita Indian Nation. The recently-discovered city dating to the 1500s will likely become the largest archeological site in Canada and the U.S. as it continues to be explored.

[@Annx70s]

Wherever two rivers meet is where traders traded. Salt Fork River and The Arkansas River in Payne County check it out. When the river is really low.

[@Simonjose7258]

12:36 No ma'am. Not true. Chaco canyon, the Pueblo peoples, Paquime, the Aztec, the Inca and many North American nations practiced agriculture and were settled. These few early contacts was all it took to almost completely wipe out life as they new it, just from disease. By the time the English arrive, they had dispersed and resettled, with some becoming semi-nomadic again. Etzanoa wasn't the only or the first in modern day United States. Archaeological evidence suggests that Native Americans first grew corn in the Southwestern United States around 4,000 years ago, and in the Northeastern United States about 2,100 years ago. The earliest Native Americans to cultivate corn were the Pueblo people of the American southwest, whose culture was transformed by the arrival of corn in 1,200 B.C. By A.D. 1,000, corn was a staple crop that sustained tribes like the Creek, Cherokee and Iroquois.

[@DD-qo1tw]

That was a very strange statement from her since she acknowledged the Cahokia sites, including a massive settled agricultural society with class division and everything and it peaked hundreds of years before the city they are studying here. I know they are eager to stress the uniqueness of their site so they can get as much attention and funding (both well deserved) as possible but it doesn't excuse playing into age old biases and misconceptions about indigenous Americans. Perhaps she meant to say they were the earliest known adopters if agriculture in that region in contrast to other groups in that limited region .. that's my most charitable interpretation of the misinformation she provided.

[@mwj5368]

In 1541 Cortez, so I read, was mislead away from indigenous people in New Mexico (I think called "New Spain" at the time by the conquistadors) area by a guy who was nic-named "El Turko" or similar name as he wore a turbin. From what I read they thought El Turko was from an earlier expedition that landed from the Gulf and Texas area and forgot the name of the military leader who led that Spanish expedition. El Turko misled Cortez and some of his soldiers into central Kansas hoping with the tall grasses he could make a run for it and leave them lost in the great sea of grass, only Cortez kept marking their path with markers. El Turko risked his life and Cortez had him executed for misleading them. Cortez was funded by Spain (King Phillip) and chosen to find the Lost Cities of Gold or Cibola. He like Onate was evil too and burned alive all the Zuni men of a village on a butte west of the city of today, Alubuquerque. This is a great find and amazing how there is a written record. It also, just my amateur view, partially indicates how many indigenous people populated the region which helps in trying to understand how many natives lost their lives violently and by disease with the conquest from the Old World and by the movement west by the pioneers and Cavalry. That one fellow called the natives relocated by the Trail of Tears to Oklahoma and the oil later discovered there as the "richest people in the world" which they made a lot of money... yet he failed to mention all the graft, violence, and death, and men who tried to marry into the Osage nation, (read "The Underground Reservation: Osage Oil" by Terry P. Wilson) and then came Frank Phillips with Standard Oil, Skelly oil, Conoco oil... and other investors profited immensely by far beyond what the Osage should have received. Thanks for presenting such an amazing and important project! It seems a miracle it was never bulldozed.

[@SEKreiver]

CORTEZ traveled to Kansas?

[@indigowizard9]

Start N Casody Ks. That's where the walnut starts, I've notices many mounds around El Dorado lake

[@BitStClair]

I have often wondered. There was frier that came north around 1549. Said he saw for himself there was "transportable wealth" to the north. From what i have read many of Coronandos men thought he lied. I do believe their indian guide lead them onto the plains away from the gold for a reason. I felt there was wealth around Quivera and questioned what. Bison was what i thought it was. This seems to solidify that. The precolonial Americans seemed more connected than we understood?

[@ElizabethTate-m9w]

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