EU Tries to Kill End-To-End Encryption

Today, we’re geting into the EU's controversial measures threatening end-to-end encryption (E2EE) under the guise of combating CSAM. Meredith Whittaker from the Signal Foundation warns that these measures could dismantle encryption and erode our privacy. The EU’s client-side scanning proposal scans messages before they’re encrypted, undermining E2EE and potentially opening the door for abuse.
Historically, sacrificing privacy for security has seldom enhanced safety. Examples include the NSA's PRISM program and the UK's Investigatory Powers Act, which expanded government control without significantly boosting security.
To protect your digital privacy, use messaging apps that prioritize E2EE, like Signal, Wire, Threema, and Session. Always use your own encryption and understand the technologies you're using. Operational security practices, like compartmentalizing communications, using pseudonyms, and regularly updating software, can help safeguard your data.
Stay informed through resources like the Electronic Frontier Foundation. This push to undermine encryption is about control, not protection. By understanding history, we can better guard against future threats. Stay safe, stay informed, and take steps to protect your digital privacy. Don’t forget to like and subscribe for more content like this. Your support is greatly appreciated, and I'll see you in the next video!
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00:00:00 - Introduction
00:00:52 - Understanding the EU's Proposal
00:01:52 - The Impact on Encryption
00:02:45 - The EU's Proposal and Its Implications
00:02:59 - The Fallacy of Security vs. Privacy
00:04:07 - Historical Examples of Surveillance Overreach
00:07:21 - Protecting Your Digital Privacy
00:09:46 - Conclusion
#opsec #encryption #e2ee #europol
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[@Laugh.Lagoon.Memes.]

Could you do a video on the difference between I2P and Tor and the pros and cons of using one over the other? Would also love if you can give a general idea of PGP encryption/signature, or if you have already, point me to the video, please? I tried doing some research on it, but I need it broken down barney style for me😅.

[@DoingFedTime]

I did it's here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/bqvGkp6pmr17las

[@MyKharli]

They keyboard logging you anyway so don`t worry about it .

[@notafbihoneypot8487]

​@@MyKharlijust use kicksecure if you're that paranoid or whonix, they use something called kloak which helps defend against this. GraphenOS has Gboard with internet access off, so nothing can go out.

[@notafbihoneypot8487]

​@@MyKharliI'd link to kloak but TY is kinda silly with links. Just look at Whonix explanation and solution

[@improvisedchaos8904]

@@MyKharli cyberdeck- fully custom builds , compile everything from source, ultra minimal install, connected via multiple devices across multiple networks before even touching the internet is about the best i can come up with. Oh and the laptop explodes after use.

[@Usmc913]

The term "Secure Backdoor" is a fucking joke. Just say were wanting non secure encryption. Which completely defeats the purpose of encryption. Do they actually believe the shit that comes out of there own mouth? Like is it pure incompetence or malicious intent?

[@DoingFedTime]

I think it's a mix of both, I actually recorded a Europol conference one time. The head of Europol started the conference out saying "anyone who grows cannabis in there basment is a terrorist" (I'm paraphrasing), At an end up blasting long after that, originally I was going to do a video about this showcasing the level of stupidity that actually exists in these agencies but at the time I really had to reconsider because something as dumb as that really isn't worth my time to begin with.

[@StefanReich]

@@DoingFedTime Terrorists? Ah yes, the terror of laughing your ass off and getting the munchies

[@ifrozenphoenix-real]

Thank god that it was prevented. Hope this regulation will never see the daylight.

[@IllIl]

Won't somebody PLEASE think of the corrupt governments?

[@MichaelOfRohan]

Youre not in charge bow Alfred Lixbill

[@J.0.E]

Orwell was right again. Everyday a step closer to 1984.

[@godividarr]

We've been there for several years now. 1984 wasn't prefaced on Big Bro seeing everything- it was the idea that you never knew if you were being watched or not.

[@mx338]

1984 is a joke and not a great or accurate book, can we please stop this meme. There's better arguments for privacy then "literally 1984".

[@oxylepy2]

Nah, we're boardering Brave New World, 1984 is just what people have latched to, despite the dystopia around them

[@Gameplayer55055]

@@oxylepy2 yes, Brave New World is the direct opposite of 1984. Actually I think first world countries have Brave New World dystopia, and regime countries actually have 1984 inside of them

[@iceManSwag]

@@J.0.E great book! I read it in English back in the days. I also started to investigate Windows 98 files from booting a bootable Windows CD recovery WinPE. I found lots of interesting directories that were hidden from normal users even if you have show hidden/system files etc checked. Most interesting was Internet Explorer had some hidden history folders that where hidden even from power users. Tracking of users slowly started already back in those days but PC's & Internet speed was too slow to gather big amounts of data.

[@thiesenf]

sudo rm -rf "corporate_bullshit" *

[@malace2]

Invading your privacy/rights via "ThInK aBoUt TeH KiDs". such a classic

[@Hunter_Bidens_Crackpipe_]

Meanwhile they have open borders with Africa 😂

[@Celestial_Cryptid]

Meanwhile the cia funds cartels who rampage across innocent people

[@kubakielbasa5987]

This argument went bad like milk on a windowsill

[@salpertia]

Pretty sure these guys have a track record of not being able to keep their data secure, so why would we trust them with ours?

[@hunterleach5710]

Banning in to end encryption is a huge security risk.

[@MichaelOfRohan]

Yup i almost wish it wouldve went though just for precedent. The entire eu as an entity would have had to rollback their entire economy, and they wouldnt be able to.

[@PplsChampion]

the "Four Horsemen of the Infocalypse" concept from 1988 is still in effect

[@Rustmilian]

They can't enforce this on anyone with a little knowledge. All they'll do is ruin business...

[@bigsussyopsec]

Ah yes, after the "TeRrOrIsT" threat, here comes the "KiDs"

[@projectsspecial9224]

This is no longer a backdoor, it's a barndoor! 😆

[@leichenkocher]

The fact that they're even thinking about implementing things like client side scanning is crazy

[@maciejanonymous]

its called recall

[@buzzdx]

@@maciejanonymous yeah, any sane person would expect their government or even the EU to step in and stop microsoft's recall. but they are dead silent, for it is exactly what they want. how can that even be legal?

[@c128stuff]

What is crazy is people not realizing client side scanning has been a thing since forever, but instead of governments, it is corporations doing this. Sure, everyone is talking about MS' recall now, which is a blatantly clear case of client side scanning, but it is seriously naive to think this hasn't been happening for about as long as it has been possible. It having been a thing since forever is not an excuse, it is merely pointing out how uninformed people really are.

[@tomtom1541]

@@buzzdx just so you know, iphotos and Google photos already scan your phone gallery on the client side.

[@notaras1985]

@@c128stuff so how does it affect my old windows 7 computer

[@kalebdye4378]

Love your content bro. Thank you for your dedication to the community 🙏

[@DoingFedTime]

The ridiculous time to comment! I appreciate you doing so is it helps support the channel.

[@zac2577]

In Australia you can't build hidden traps on your property since emergency services should be able to access your house

[@dave7244]

It is the same in the UK there was a famous court case in the 90s where we essentially lost the right of self defence in our own homes.

[@maxscott3349]

@@zac2577 Same in the US actually

[@wuketuke6601]

That makes sense tho

[@ajkulac9895]

Same everywhere

[@Aidan_Neff]

@@maxscott3349 only for traps u can still have guns though

[@naesone2653]

Been waiting for this one from you hell yeah thanks

[@newmzy0]

I'm old enough to remember when the US's Clinton Administration in the '90s wanted to implement a so called "clipper chip" into all communications tech - it provided strong hardware encryption BUT provided backdoor keys to law enforcement. People in power don't like everyone to have secrets, they prefer to restrict secrecy to themselves. As an Australian I'm a little embarrassed of our data retention laws but I wonder - if I use a VPN does that mean my ISP can't keep my metadata?

[@test-rj2vl]

They will ask it from that VPN company then. And for that VPN company your money is just 1 drop in large ocean so it's cheaper for them to comply. So you need to google what people say about this company before choosing one. And then you can still expose yourself because if you use same same facebook or google account with and without VPN then the end result is that those giants now know both your real IP and your VPN IP. So those VPN ads that talk about privacy are just money making machine. In reality you need to know what, why and how if you want to get actual privacy benefit.

[@d8rh8r35]

If by some chance it doesn't go through they can always just host their sketchy servers in Aus and use our local laws to side step any protections in place in your country.. Five eyes.... Keep your world safe...

[@jackle3002]

You’ve got this slightly wrong! There is no E2EE for any user of a smart phone or the next generation of computers. All of them will have Neural Processing Units, which perform the client side scanning pre-encryption as you use the device. Some of these NPUs may have the capability be commanded remotely to report flagged content the NPU observes. Either way it will be incredibly important to remember always.. that big government is watching everything you do on your device, whether it is actively or retroactively. E2EE is dead until we move away from Apple, Microsoft and Google.

[@carlospenalver8721]

That beard took 12 years of college to grow, ✊ more power to you and the birds nest in there

[@-Vamp]

keep the vids comin' man. always love to see a new vid from you pop up on my feed.

[@LycanDarkoRabbithole]

Damn dude, production value going up! Great work killa

[@int32_]

This is a bit misleading. The EU is not a monolithic entity. There are at least 3 different entities involved: the EU commission (which can propose laws), the EU parliament and the EU council. While the commission loves to propose weird regulations, the EU parliament usually stops them and right now is against chat control.

[@docmalitt]

Only one thing I can say - self-hosting; just don't throw your old laptop in the garbage and spin a server. Do not depend on Close Sources software. Yes, it requires a bit of learning but it gets easier (with docker) every day for regular ppl to have self-hosted software/app for communication.

[@armanis1234]

And degoogle

[@sidensvans67]

The Government has a Back Door that is now a Barn Door .

[@Laugh.Lagoon.Memes.]

Love your content, man, very educational. Keep up the great work!!!

[@DoingFedTime]

Thanks, will do!

[@rrosie1966]

Thank you for the summary, it is great and provides an excellent video preview. Keep up the great work.

[@valrina]

Mandatory backdoors are the same as trying to regulate keys (physical ones, like fire/emergency keys). You need to define the backdoor in law making it basically public.

[@ChrisHaefner]

Thanks for the update sam

[@nightiandsnowlover6789]

Broooo I remember you, you used to be a guest in canov's youtube channel You are that guy who escape FBI for years Respect from Bulgaria🇧🇬

[@leoworrall9449]

With all the modern “neural” chips embedded in modern devices they can basically intercept a message before it is encrypted. These AI chips will have the ability to know what is on your screen at all times. The only way to have encrypted communication is to do the encryption on a separate offline device and then move the encrypted message to the online device somehow.

[@archuserbytheway]

Maybe we will go back to the ol' days of sending pigeons as messengers?

[@leoworrall9449]

@@archuserbytheway pgp = Pigeon Guided Protocol

[@Synflood-dot-txt]

Amazing video Sam, thanks

[@naesone2653]

I would have a question for you if you are okay with answering, regarding privacy its a spectrum how much you want to sacrifice of your time and ease of use, where do you personally draw the line and are there some things you don’t do because they don’t get you much value in regards to privacy. Maybe you could make a video about being private on the internet and your best practices or so ?

[@DoingFedTime]

I honestly really don't care about my privacy I do care about security, but not so much privacy. Not for me personally anyways. I care more about your privacy being protected than mine because a lot of my information is already out there.

[@naesone2653]

@@DoingFedTime fair, I went a bit down the rabbit hole and seems like privacy is dead anyways and if not you need to go through extreme lengths to get somewhat solid privacy lmao.

[@armanis1234]

True, but still possible at least limit exposure

[@mx338]

The proposal for this could not be agreed on again, and was put on hold for now, but unfortunately not discarded.

[@mercedesc350e5]

It’s ok, I just got a sweet secure phone I think it’s by anom or something? But seriously. Another great vid. I like this length/depth.

[@boomknight1015]

Ending E2EE would mean hackers now have access to all of your info. Not some, all of it. Basically using HTTP at that point. HTTP is used by hackers and tiktok, apparently.

[@MichaelOfRohan]

Cold spray additive manufacturing >_>

[@valrina]

"Feel free to google that" You trying to get me on some list or what 😂

[@debilista]

And the EU sees itself as something better than China. I give up, im leaving this sinking continent once i finish my degree. These guys have no idea how hard and resource hungry scanning AI client-side is. How many legit apps or websites would be massacred by some irrelevant officials who are so bright they cannot open .zip files but decide all technology. Lack of resources to implement scanning killing off small apps is esentially enabling and deeply encouraging monopoly as if current lobbying and bribing for favorable laws was not enough. Or that a nokia from 2004 would not handle any scanning and would be illegal. Absolute joke that just proves that democracy is not the best people ruling, but anyone that gets enough people to yell their name is the one to rule. As immature and wild as picking popular jocks as captains of teams during PE in middle school. Policies and common welfare is nowhere in the equation because the crowd decided and everyone who disagrees with the majority gets no power. Scientific method and all common liberties we got were an extreme minority views at one point, to not respect minority views is to despise our own origins. It is a blasphemy to criticize anything that the majority supports and it is treated as hostile as if i told bad stuff on church some 50 years ago. People believe we advanced but we did not, we just changed our pantheon and what was sacred yesterday is not sacred anymore, and what was not sacred yesterday is sacred now. People only know of democracy as a religion and solution but people forgot that separate states were also meant as a quality check, combined with freedom of movement people would leave tyrants but in europe and america on federal level cannot flee from it. Wasnt federal law meant to be only the absolute necessary, now extended to any whim of the congress? Or in europe where our cops ask no questions really whether to extradite anyone? It could even be made up accusations and a headhunt from a government and nobody cares. We got it so good we can live entire life in ignorance and never feel any meaningful consequences for it, while a minor cut in finger was enough to depart back in the day where everything required attention and wisdom. Now we can believe whatever delusion we pick and get by, pursue pretty much any career and get enough food to live, even if we break the neck we can live till old age thanks to modern hospitals. Consequences are gone and ignorance and arrogance is beyond belief. As usual a peasant cant do anything while his lord sets the rules without any quality control just to exploit more. We have not advanced much from middle ages besides having more wealth and a bit more knowledge, the same backwards spirit that burned witches, bullied scientists and allowed executions on a whim of any lord powerful enough. Now that the laws are getting tighter, all common sense gets illegal or gets you harrassed if legal, monopolies are set up so hard i do not feel like i want to achieve much in this world. I honestly do not wish for a house, career, fame or even having ever a family of my own. Overrated. There is nothing worth of notice and aspiration of any sentient being in this world. And the sacred majority is the reason for demoralization of everyone else.

[@monkaSisLife]

not happening 🤣 any smart company would instantly switch to a different country outside of EU to prevent this from happening

[@elibrown6513]

Love your content bro.

[@SF-eg3fq]

loving the content uncle

[@TransNeingerian]

Digital data encryption protectionn needs to be added to the first amendment.

[@baraka629]

EU about to violate it's own GDPR 😂

[@projectsspecial9224]

Rules are made for others, not for themselves. Exceptions to the rule always exist. 😅

[@lazymass]

We see pretty big backlash all over EU, so I hope as always in the past, they will not.

[@Kaiyats]

Signal is good however one thing to consider is if you or your friend have the Default notifications set to Name and message the app has to send the notification through Apple/Google servers to get to you and the NSA stores that to bypass the encryption entirely, so set it to name only

[@Phanatic89]

Client-side scanning.....does this essentially mean on a hardware/device/OS level?

[@EvansEkene]

Thanks for another great masterpiece of information. What is the best VPN you can suggest for us to use?

[@notaras1985]

Build your own

[@limeadeTV]

Alot of what the EU was doing wtih Apple and Microsoft was really good but this makes absolutely no sense.

[@iceManSwag]

What they do is ban the Worlds best Antivirus Kaspersky in USA. I remind you the Pegasus was found by Kaspersky.

[@iceManSwag]

@@brony_in_the_sticks Kaspersky opened up a transparency center in Switzerland because of the prior accusations from USA. They are building the software under survivance from independent monitoring organization in Switzerland. How is that not enough. You can also download Kaspersky specifically written for USA or the EU. Kaspersky also opened office in USA to comply with US laws. This is obviously done in order to hurt Kaspersky products. This is the same as what USA & EU doing to hurt the Chinese car industry by increasing taxes for their cars. I'm sure Microsoft does lots more on data collection from their Windows & Office users. You have too really deeply debloat Windows nowadays. I also add lots of Microsoft surveillance services to block using HOSTS file although best way to do is block them using 3rd party firewall from Kaspersky or another 3rd party firewall.

[@shifureisaikyou2055]

What is the name of the Outro?

[@piantamk8498]

oh please can somebody think of the children?

[@janet.snakehole]

this is my favorite channel ♥

[@DoingFedTime]

Thank you for taking the time to comment Janet!

[@Celestial_Cryptid]

The world sees China as something to look up to in all aspects and China seems to be looking up to North Korea, it’s so tiring thinking about the future

[@Cutest-Bunny998]

The client side scan is dumb. TAs will just rip it out of the application. Moreover, backdoors to encryption is an utter nightmare; it was a dumb idea when the US tried it in hardware in the 90s too.

[@HollyTroll]

what's ur opinion about SimpleX Chat for privacy?

[@DoingFedTime]

I like it a lot the developers known documentation talk about the ease and integration points with the Tor network. I'm disappointed in myself that I actually forgot about this one after editing I really wanted to get this live had been working on for a little bit in conjunction with a few other videos to that I'm trying to push out but I've been getting sidetracked with other things.

[@HollyTroll]

@@DoingFedTime no worries man, thanks for the awesome content

[@cojo4803]

How will this affect dnms?

[@Rennu_the_linux_guy]

thankfully here in the US E2EE is protected by the fourth ammendment

[@projectsspecial9224]

But they will find ways to navigate around it or exceptions to the rule, like mandatory backdoors as emergency failsafe for exigent communications. 😮

[@ardwetha]

Na, they don't break end to end encryption. They just install a small little backdoor, no need to worry, look how cute it looks.

[@everydayearrape]

Good video, Very informative! I'm in for spreading awareness but making people aware isn't helping to stop this fear (05:27) right?😂

[@potatocrispychip]

the glowies are acting up again who did i vote to do this

[@iamwitchergeraltofrivia9670]

😡😡😡 i want usa privacy

[@DoingFedTime]

I'll second that.

[@test-rj2vl]

Problem is that it affects large number of innocent people while those who aren't can do a simple chat app in php within few hours. And you may think that "Oh but not everyone can code" - as a developer I don't see a reason why ChatGPT couldn't do it for you as long as you have basic idea of what, why and how.

[@wuhtusername]

Here before 100k subscribers 🙌

[@user-ly7bj9gb5v]

End to end encryption? Same in english please?

[@DoingFedTime]

Hahhaa, sorry, secure communication that gives you privacy.

[@nezu_cc]

Europol can try, but PGP go brrrr

[@John-pp2jr]

1984

[@bobtarmac1828]

EU overreach. Can we demand to …cease Ai? Or else be… laid off by Ai, then human extinction? Or suffer an… Ai new world order? With swell robotics everywhere, …Ai jobloss is the top worry. Anyone else feel the same?

[@IvoStunga]

If this happens, I'm switching to dumbphones and be done with this enshitification already. Won't be a problem really, because I already don't have any of those a-social networks on my phone and I watch KZbin only on my PC with my adblocks and no-scripts in place, or GJ

[@HAVOCSTUDIOS]

Simle X chat is also a good choice!!! 👍👍👍👍👍👍

[@mapu1]

Thats fucking insane, and would destroy security, as if you make encryption illegal means anyone can read your stuff, not just authority. If they need the key, get a warrant and get it from person with the key, don't just make more copies and leave them laying around where anyone can get them. Plus its not like you can't encode your messages manually, so it doesn't even stop criminals. It legitmemetly just makes crime easyer and thats about all it does.

[@GhostPrivacy]

You provide a great public resource, thank you for being you. We're also very concerned about digital online identity & transactional privacy and we're doing whatever we can to help. Check us out sometime =]

[@cvport8155]

Tox chat ?? Good ??

[@DoingFedTime]

In my opinion is very good for my understanding it has tor integration, and tanned encryption, and it's peer to peer architecture meaning that is very difficult to rate if not impossible.

[@suchtberater]

tried* they failed, for now. They will try again tho, as is tradition.

[@caiocouto3450]

never thought i would see gimli talking about tech stuff lol

[@Dragonfire511]

European Union of Socialist Soviet Republics.

[@Emlt]

So American…

[@IvarsRuza]

How to avoid criminals to use these cool super private products, like Signal?

[@alexandrustefanmiron7723]

EU can ...

[@xoxoxo-42]

xoxoxo

[@n.park1]

Ai thumbnail (｀Δ´)

[@veathemenace]

Bro please don’t ask people to google csam lmao there gonna get put on a fucking hitlist

[@StefanReich]

You don't get on a "hitlist" for googling a word

[@Archaic.]

"what does csam mean" and the like arent gonna get you on a list if thats it

[@YTDeletes90PercentOfMyComments]

Do you expect to find any in the images tab? Google would get put on a "hitlist" if you could

[@Synflood-dot-txt]

🙄

[@peterkunley]

5:23 Look I bet this comment won't get pinned or like but if replied I'll do 10 push ups which won't happen I hope.

[@hvher]

Rare EU L

[@chrisrosenkreuz23]

Our fault for putting up with this socialist bs

[@wakeupNeo_]

a random question but do you think wifi can really cause cancer?

[@V530-15ICR]

Nope

[@wakeupNeo_]

@V530-15ICR but how do you know for certain?