Eureka Update #12: 223, 9mm Progress, and 300 Blackout Prototype

[@shaneerhart9349]

The 9mm for IPSC just melted my brain 😂 awsome stuff and thank you for thinking of the run and gun crowd

[@intothenight1993]

Looking good. Glad you are being fussy with the parts and not settling for second best👌

[@AustralianSportingAgencies]

Thanks 👍

[@Louis-fr1zy]

Looks so good. You guys are doing an awesome job.

[@AustralianSportingAgencies]

Thanks so much

[@AussieStandsWithRussia]

Well done lads. Your have really targeted the market with the users in mind. I'm drooling over the 9mm

[@AustralianSportingAgencies]

Thanks mate

[@greatdane3343]

Fuck Russia

[@glennllewellyn7369]

Oi! Can it my friend!

[@AussieStandsWithRussia]

@@glennllewellyn7369 ?

[@AussieStandsWithRussia]

@@glennllewellyn7369 ?

[@tonydique4554]

Awesome. Manufacturing firearms is hard. Plenty of US companies put out substandard product. Thanks for putting the work in 👍.

[@AustralianSportingAgencies]

Cheers mate!!

[@jamesaustralian9829]

A kid with no education made the world's most reliable gun, still in use today - AK 47

[@brendendyson8470]

Can’t wait to see this in the stores

[@AustralianSportingAgencies]

Me too, I think we won't see them in stores until April when we get on top of our backorders.

[@vintagetintrader1062]

I’ve ordered a 9mm, now I find in the future I can have a 300 blackout with also 12” barrel and short front grip, things just get better :) Not going to shorten my Howa mini bolt action in 300 Blk now

[@AustralianSportingAgencies]

That's it mate, we try to add as much value to this setup as possible!

[@user-hv5nt8xs2l]

When will we see a large frame version for .308 etc? Will we be able to adjust the gas screws without having to remove the forend? Also loving the updates and the amount of effort you guys are putting into this system to make it as reliable and strong as possible.

[@AustralianSportingAgencies]

The factory gas system will not be adjustable but i am sure there will be a after market one. If so with a long screw driver you can adjust it without taken the handguard off. 308 is most likely going to be mid next year as we need to do a fair bit of a redesign.

[@siknis21]

No update on NSW?...

[@AustralianSportingAgencies]

Rick was mumbling something in the lines of rockets and butts.....I can't say more as it is with the lawyers but be sure that we will tell you as soon as we can announce anything, good or bad.

[@tribe-of-Zabulon]

NSW WILL GET THE ''RAINBOW'' COLORED ADDITION

[@AustralianSportingAgencies]

@@tribe-of-Zabulon I should have one soon :)

[@tribe-of-Zabulon]

@@AustralianSportingAgencies

[@deadchivalry1698]

​@@AustralianSportingAgenciesI thought WA was supposed to be the problem child for firearms ownership. Is NSW normally this difficult or are they just making this rifle into a special case?

[@TehBr0]

The 9mm looks so awesome and will have so many applications, praying it becomes available to NSW.

[@AustralianSportingAgencies]

It's just a matter of time, and I agree. She looks like a lot of fun 😀 and she is 😀

[@bpgsontz1072]

I can't wait till I hear ozzy reviews verdict on this!

[@AustralianSportingAgencies]

It will be something like......this gun is too expensive for what it is and I can't see a use case for it, I will just buy a pump gun. And if anything can break on it.....it for sure will while he uses it. Sorry....this comment is from experience from any of his videos of any of our guns. That said, I do hope it's a fair review if he chooses to do one.

[@braddaley1255]

least ozzie reviews has got the balls to tell it how it is.

[@AustralianSportingAgencies]

Let's agree to disagree. When you have knowledge of what happens in the background, then things sometimes look different.

[@bpgsontz1072]

I dunno, generally from what I have seen, if the rifle feeds and ejects reliably, doesn't show consistent reliability issues in general, shows acceptable levels of wear after some use, and shoots reasonably accurately depending on the platform, he seems to show credit where credit is due. How much something is worth is all a different perspective for each potential buyer. Frankly, if the rifle ticks all those boxes, I won't care so much about the cost being in the price bracket it is listed. If you are saying his results are rigged, i don't know what he could hope to accomplish by giving a rifle a bad rep, unless you are suggesting that his opinion is being paid for by the competition, which is a pretty wild claim without evidence.

[@AustralianSportingAgencies]

Don't get me wrong, I am absolutely not saying there is foul play. We, as a company, have been negatively impacted by his reviews and believe that these specific reviews have not been conducted in the right manner. This is more around the procedure and processes of tests than his opinions. So, learning from the previous experience, we would rather not see him review our products as long as the processes have not improved and become more scientific, but that's certainly not up to us. I personally have not seen his reviews for many years, so maybe they have gotten better from a reviewing process perspective, I can't comment on that. He certainly has a great loyal following and a place in the industry. We do wish him all the best as the more people get behind the industry, the better, even if we disagree with some participants on occasion. Hope that makes sense. Bastian

[@ZacDeclerck]

Pretty cool feature to block the gas port and cycle as a straight pull. This is definitely a con when considering other button/lever release firearms

[@AustralianSportingAgencies]

Thanks, mate. Rick was hoping for the acknowledgement

[@KB-ry4ly]

I have emailed Bastian, but putting it out there that a 2011 mag adaption for the 9mm would be very welcome to a lot of us IPSC shooters. Easily as popular as the CZ mags and I would think more so than the 1911 and Glock options. Please consider that as an option. Thanks.

[@AustralianSportingAgencies]

Hi mate, i am certain that we will have after-market adapters either made by us or other companies. It won't take long. But I'll be interested to hear from more people about the 2011.

[@richardoverton57]

Interesting. Good Updates! Thanks, Hope for your Success In these new Calibres. will keep watchin with interest. Dont think i ever be a future buyer? Have all I ever want in sca Taipan X 223 .out at the farm. Its Brilliant and economical. Fault free! I luv it! Sorry Eureka n ASA.

[@AustralianSportingAgencies]

Fair enough! Hope it stays that way....if it doesn't....you know who to call 😀 all the best mate

[@JackHoulihan-of5bj]

Any provision for aftermarket handguards? Would love to bolt up an AR18 handguard or similar.

[@smlefest4366]

Seconding this, maybe offered as custom option for those who want it, rather than the normal model.

[@vintagetintrader1062]

I would be happy with no front hand guard and just a simple cover to hide the 4 unused bolts, you are not bench shooting a 9mm

[@AustralianSportingAgencies]

Already in the making but I don't think we will launch it until March. We need to get through the current backorders first. I'll keep you guys posted on the development of the forend we considering as it gets designed.

[@deadchivalry1698]

Phenomenal work gentlemen. The perfect gun for target shooting, IPSC, and the zombie apocalypse. I can't wait to get my hands on one. I'm planning to buy the .223 version and getting a conversion kit to swap it to a 9mm a year or so later. Do you have a price for the conversion kits yet and is it something that can be done on my workbench at home or will it require a gunsmith to convert?

[@AustralianSportingAgencies]

We don't have the final price on the 9mm parts yet. Hence, we can't cost it just yet. You will be able to do the conversion within 2 minutes or less yourself. You can also get the whole upper group, then it's just 3 screws....piece of piss

[@deadchivalry1698]

@@AustralianSportingAgencies I'll probably get the conversion kit without the upper. Field stripping firearms down is fun and it means I can learn how the rifle works better. Keep up the good work guys.

[@AustralianSportingAgencies]

Thanks mate

[@tonydique4554]

Getting withdrawals here boys… no updates in weeks 😂

[@AustralianSportingAgencies]

I just finished the torture test edit. Rick just needs to sign off but he went to bed to early....fml 😅 it will come tomorrow

[@IamtheWV17]

Boy am I keen to see the 16".300 with a short forend!

[@AustralianSportingAgencies]

She'll be nice !

[@ssaa8664]

So will these rifles be a category A/B for QLD

[@AustralianSportingAgencies]

Cat B Bolt Action

[@BirnieMac1]

Dumb question, but how do the velocity profiles of the 300 blackout and 223 compare? Id imagine the 300['s extra mass probably leads to the rounds having a fair bit more kick/kinetic? Love your work Rick, the 300 looks incredible for a first prototype

[@AustralianSportingAgencies]

Thanks, mate. Before I give you an uneducated answer, I highly suggest going to google Ballistics of 300blk vs .223. Or ask the all knowing chatgpt

[@greatdane3343]

Short sounds good 👍 I'd prefer adjustable gas to a spring change though, for more flexibility.

[@AustralianSportingAgencies]

Fair enough! I am sure someone will make something 😏😉

[@greatdane3343]

@@AustralianSportingAgencies I am a long time 300BLK shooter that frequently swaps between subs and supers while out hunting.

[@AustralianSportingAgencies]

Don't worry, it's not hard to turn it into a tunable gas system.....says the non engineer 😉

[@greatdane3343]

@@AustralianSportingAgencies what do the engineers think about an asymmetrical load and long term wear on the bolt carrier/receiver by only having a spring on one side?

[@AustralianSportingAgencies]

We don't think it will make a measurable difference. You can always swap the sides around if you are concerned, but you will most likely find that you won't be able to tell a difference

[@mickyabroad3818]

How much of the firearm is made in Australia ?

[@AustralianSportingAgencies]

All the important parts, upper, lower, bolt carrier, springs. Barrel is US, Butt Stock Turkey. The main reason is that there is no supplier in the country or it is absolutely price prohibitive, and supply can't be guaranteed.

[@mickyabroad3818]

Impressive, good job. I’m curious, can more material be removed from the upper and lower hypothetically? (If the build budget was a blank check scenario). Would forging the receivers be considered in the future ?

[@AustralianSportingAgencies]

Yes you can take out material and you can make them look kick ass, the reason we don't do it is that it will increase tool time, meaning we can make less units in the same time, driving up the price. Oceania etc have their price point because of that extra tool work that goes into them. So yes, if you have the budget and someone who knows what they are doing....you can go kick ass on the receivers.

[@AustralianSportingAgencies]

The receiver is made from a solid block. If you want to inject mould it, it will not be as sturdy, and you would likely have to design it differently. Also, to pay for a mould, you would need vast quantities to find a break-even point. I'm not saying it's not possible. I'm just saying that we have chosen a different route for now.

[@Gshock25able]

I might get the 9mm instead of the 223

[@AustralianSportingAgencies]

Get one that you like most first, then buy the conversion later.

[@davidsmith9189]

Any possibility of other calibers in future? 10mm or 45ACP/Super? 458 socom, 350 or 400 legend? Larger calibers would make a nice pig gun.

[@AustralianSportingAgencies]

I think .308 is next closely followed by 6.5 creed. The rest will come later.

[@davidsmith9189]

@@AustralianSportingAgencies How can you fit that in this interchangeable platform?

[@AustralianSportingAgencies]

You can't. The 308 and 6.5 would be their own platform. The issue we have at this point is volume. You need a demand of 1000 or somewhere around there to rectify the design of a calibre. If we believe we could sell 1000x units of let's say 10mm, we will build it, but chances are very low unless we miss the market here?

[@davidsmith9189]

@@AustralianSportingAgencies Yeah I was not expecting it to be soon, maybe later down the track if the rifles are popular and work.

[@Dannyvk202]

Amazing work guys!❤

[@marciebalme588]

My Husband is up for one of these rifles

[@hembrasalvaje]

Good to see you are being fussy about it. As for bearing with you 😜 I'm not hairy enough for that 😜

[@AustralianSportingAgencies]

😁

[@MatthewFay-x1x]

Hopefully I don't get pounded in the comments for this, and it might be a stupid question, but why could we not manufacture the parts ourselves in Australia? Is it Labor costing? Or what? I was more tending towards Australian made, and boosting our own manufacturing. Assuming that Lithgow from my understanding (If I am wrong, please tell me) manufactures everything for their firearms? Or do they also import select parts as well?

[@AustralianSportingAgencies]

Cheers, mate, for the question. I'll give you a few examples when it comes to manufacturing in Oz: we can buy pretty much any part made in China at the same price we pay for just the raw material here. Another one is that if you are running low volume which we are ( in the couple thousands....not 50k units) paying for moulds that cost 10-20k usd each for each part before you pay for the part, is not profitable or our guns would cost a lot more. I believe Lithgow can do it as they produce for the military and they are part of a giant defence contractor, so naturally the commercial production would just be the creme on top and doesn't need to cover the costs of the machines. That said, I can not say that I do know their business, so plz don't quote me. So in short, there is no advantage in making products that already exist overseas here unless there is an import challenge or you want to ensure you have full control over the quality. The later part is the reason eureka gun co makes the crucial parts here. Hope that helps?

[@MatthewFay-x1x]

@@AustralianSportingAgencies Thats an awesome response. Thank you. It makes complete sense, wish I had enough dosh to invest, I'd buy all the bloody machines for you guys! I just really like Australians manufacturing stuff, and Aussies making our own guns is super cool.

[@npet6842]

All this trouble for just another non semi auto firearm .

[@AustralianSportingAgencies]

I know right, if we could have semis, we wouldn't need to go through all this effort!

[@mattrickard3716]

And yet somehow still easier than dealing with the political aspect of the problem.

[@bigtrev761]

🇦🇺😎👍🏁

[@tribe-of-Zabulon]

SO GLAD I HAVE REAL MAN HANDS

[@ashtonjanke3860]

Do you not have Jew hands?

[@AustralianSportingAgencies]

lol

[@tribe-of-Zabulon]

@@ashtonjanke3860 AH YOU DID HAVE THE BALLS TO REMOVE AN ''E'' AND PUT A ''W'' IN PLACE! LOOK UP THE NAME OF MY TRIBE, NOT PART OF AVI'S MOB! AND YOU MIGHT LEARN SOMETHING.

[@tribe-of-Zabulon]

@@ashtonjanke3860 THEY ARE A DIFFERENT TRIBE, GOOGLE THE LOST TRIBES. YOU MIGHT LEARN SOMETHING.

[@tribe-of-Zabulon]

@@ashtonjanke3860 DIFFERENT TRIBE THEN MINE.

[@gw5436]

308? An update on a rifle that suits us primary producers please?

[@AustralianSportingAgencies]

Yes but not likely until April/May at this point. We first need to get the numbers out before starting the redesign of the 308