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Euro nymphing is for CHEATERS! Or is it? In this one, you're the judge and jury as I share my experiences Euro nymphing for trout. This facet of fly fishing is so much fun and helps to catch more fish, but has a learning curve. What are your thoughts on Euro nymphing?
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[@fudd126]

Howdy Tim I am 54 years old and just started Euro nymphing last year.. it is a blast and a game changer no doubt...... I think if we practice wet hands and keep the fish in the net and in the water . The trout should be fine ... I also love Tying simpler flies paragons in France flies and Sneak attack

[@TimCammisa]

Glad you enjoy it as much as me, "game changer" is a great way to describe Euro nymphing! Regarding the consequences, they are there and it's something I want others to be aware of. Keeping our hands wet definitely helps, but hooks are hooks and they have a way of finding themselves all over a fish. Catching more fish just simply increases the number of fish being jabbed in other locations aside from their mouths. I appreciate you taking the time to comment, plus thanks for mentioning my Sneak Attack pattern! Tim www.troutandfeather.com

[@donaldbragg2115]

I used to fish this way on the Green River and Little Naches in WA back in the mid 90s, but with a Berkley 8 1/2 ft spinning rod and daiwa reel. A guy from CA moved to WA and showed me, he said just take a hook put it on your mono line with no weight, then root around in the water for rock worms(little bug that builds a house of sand grains) and use them as bait...fish after fish after fish, never caught so many trout. I moved out east and stopped fishing like that, but recently got into fly fishing and now see this euro nymphing and it brought me back to those days and weeks using a spinning outfit to do basically the same thing. Now I want to try it with a nymph rod and nymph, seems like it would be way easier than using a spinning outfit. :)

[@TimCammisa]

Very similar process, Donald, and if you have any questions about Euro nymphing, feel free to reach out: [e-mail] Thanks! Tim

[@pawoodsnwater7551]

Thanks Tim, definitely not cheating but almost directly goes against what we were taught with traditional fly fishing. When I do it, almost feel like I’m disrespecting fly fishing. Perdigons and Czech style nymphs for the most part, seem to not follow any bug hatch cycles. Sometimes I feel like I can close my eyes and pick out a perdigon or a Czech style nymph and the fish will hit it without rhyme or reason, very effective but weird. Almost feel like the fish hit the bead and not the “fly”. Maybe another video for another time, ha! Right now gonna stick with regular fly line fly fishing, but definitely will euro nymph when I feel it’s necessary. I still love the bugs, the life cycles and the challenge of matching the hatch. It may catch a lot of fish, but to me , it’s a lot more than that. Maybe the title should have a question mark at the end? Again, great video Tim! Thank you!

[@edherrmann182]

Tim, I appreciate your comments in this video. As I look back over the years, traditional fly fishing was something I had had handed down to me by my father. But in recent years I made the switch to euro nymphing. Since I was always busy when the best fly fishing was in the spring, I was denied the opportunity because work was prime time important (farming). But now as I am retired it was time to get back to what I loved. Euro nymphing made that enjoyable since what you identify as cheating; became the only way I fish today. I feel that I am making up for all the years I missed due to work. It’s more fun catching fish than dreaming about the ones I never caught. Now I need to try all these streams so many like you video highlight throughout the state. Thanks for all your videos.

[@chrislantz4264]

Great video Tim, thanks for sharing your thoughts. There are certainly times that Euro nymphing is so effective it feels like you've enabled some sort of fly fishing cheat code. As a novice fly angler, nymphing under an indicator was something I've always struggled with. Discovering tight line techniques and experiencing moderate success almost immediately is finally what gave me confidence in fishing nymphs. That carried over in helping to improve my ability to fish an indicator rig effectively by a great deal.

[@TimCammisa]

Thanks for sharing, Chris, and I'm glad you didn't read TOO FAR into the "cheating!" :-) Fishing this style is definitely fun, and like you mentioned, I was throwing an indicator yesterday, as I needed my rig on the other side of a swift-moving river...the best of both worlds combined. HA! You mentioned you're a novice, welcome! Shoot me an email with any questions you ever have: [e-mail] Thanks again for taking a moment to comment. Tim www.troutandfeather.com

[@cenobitetoastcrunch8803]

When fly fishing, if you're not "cheating" you're not trying. I've went through the guilt and shame phase when i was Euro "nymphing" a dual fly rig with a pink Squiggle worm and an Eggstasy egg pattern on the point. I felt dirty lol. I had to sit down for a minute and reevaluate my life choices. I finally decided to keep going, but I'd periodically look around to make sure nobody was looking at the mortal SINs that were tied to my leader. Two "flies" that aren't (or are) "Flies". The Squiggle worm / Eggstasy combo is absolutely a stock trouts worst nightmare, and I am a shameless wretch LOL! Great vid!

[@TimCammisa]

HA HA, so you get it, too?!? I know what you mean, but in the end, this is simply fishing. We each have a decision to make, from dry flies, articulated streamers, or a worm/egg combo. Have fun with this and I appreciate you taking a moment to comment. Tim www.troutandfeather.com

[@CrazyAboutFlyFishing]

I've just started Euro Nymphing. It's been pretty successful but I haven't yet found it that much more successful. I'm just in the beginning though. Would love your feedback on what I am doing wrong. Great video. Thanks for sharing.

[@davidhunt6322]

I've hired a guide for 12th May to see what this is all about, lots of questions to ask! So excited to learn a new style after watching your video, thanks. 👌

[@TimCammisa]

Awesome, David, and please let me know how it goes for you: [e-mail] Like anything else, there is a learning curve, as you undoubtedly know. I dedicated nearly an entire season to Euro nymphing...and it was ABSOLUTELY worth it. Good luck and be sure to shoot me an email. Tim www.troutandfeather.com

[@davidhunt6322]

@@TimCammisa Sent you an email with some photos of our day, possibly in your spam box 👍

[@alexargyros7186]

Love this video, Tim. Thanks. One question: could you briefly outline how the way Pat Weiss fishes is different from someone like Josh? Does Pat float the sighter all the time? If so, how does he get deep without sinking the leader?

[@TimCammisa]

Hi Alex, and that's tough to do. I specifically wanted to focus on learning how to float the sighter, which Pat gave me an incredible foundation. I am unsure if he does that all of the time, but I would guess not. However, I can assure you that the depths achieved are considerable when using fine tippet and weighted flies. Shoot me an email with more questions, Alex, as this is another aspect of Euro nymphing that truly ups your game: [e-mail] Thanks! Tim www.troutandfeather.com

[@gofusmoholl3462]

I’ve been flyfishing since I was a little kid but discovered European nymphing then in the early 2000s. Wow it’s amazing the numbers and quality of fish I’m catching now compared to before. Even when the water is stained and high I can still catch a great number of nice fish. I love Tying up simple patterns that are effective Catching fish. I just bought a euro rod and it’s worth every penny. I love your videos .

[@TimCammisa]

Thanks for the kind words, Joseph, and glad to hear that you enjoy Euro nymphing as much as me! What can of rod did you purchase? Thanks again! Tim www.troutandfeather.com

[@johnnylightning1491]

Tim, have you talked to the fish? What do they think about euro nymphing? Inquiring minds want to know. Keep the good stuff coming.

[@TimCammisa]

Hi Johnny, and I just got back from a trip in which we had some intriguing conversations. In short, they dislike Euro nymphing, as they are getting tricked WAY too often! ;-) If I hear more, I'll send you a report. Tim www.troutandfeather.com

[@theineptflyfisherman]

hey tim! i've been fishing with josh also. euro is the way to go to catch trout. but i'm glad you mentioned the conservation aspect. even if we do everything correct in handling the fish, there is still a mortality rate. even if we could be as low as 10%, that's one dead fish for every ten caught. we know euro is all about the numbers. just my thoughts. cheers!

[@OldDominionTroutBum]

Really great video Tim. Amazed how a lot people that think Euro nymphing is “easy”. As if you take fly line out of the equation, put on some “anchor” flies and suddenly trout lose all inhibitions and race to hit your fly. Just like anything else, it is a technique that requires practice to get better. Learning the nuisances takes time on the water. Once you have the foundation down, you can expand to dry-dropper, light flies, floating the sighter, casting at distance, etc....It just a super effective technique for fly fishing. One that requires practice to become proficient, just like any other approach to fly fishing.

[@augustgresens3528]

Right - there is no magic formula. There are many other things to master in fly fishing that go beyond the technique - like being able to read the water and understand where fish might be in different seasons. Tim was already an accomplished angler in these other dimensions so it is no surprise that a euro technique made such a big difference for him.

[@OldDominionTroutBum]

@@augustgresens3528 100% agree👊

[@TimCammisa]

Your comments are appreciated, and when I first started, the beginning was rough! Figuring out when to strike, the rod angle to choose, and even tippet lengths were all new concepts. I absorbed every piece of information I could, including podcasts, magazine articles, George Daniel's book, and talking to others online. Though a steep learning curve, it's one that I personally believe was worth the time. Easy? Nothing in fly fishing is easy. I think it's easy to forget what our own beginnings were like, even with a traditional fly line. Thanks for the time, and I'm curious: What resources did you utilize when learning? Tim www.troutandfeather.com

[@TimCammisa]

Thanks for the kind words, but I would also argue that Euro nymphing forced me to truly examine water differently than I used to. Knowing it was such an effective technique for others, I pushed myself to really break down its intricacies...which took time! Then when I got to new water types that I didn't fish regularly (slack water especially), I became very intentional in determining ways the Euro nymph system could apply to them. Most importantly, I dedicated an entire season to this year and absolutely encourage others to do so with whatever new system they're learning, be it swinging wet flies or fishing articulated streamers. Again, I appreciate the kind words...and if you do come up with a magic formula, please share it with me! ;-) Tim www.troutandfeather.com

[@augustgresens3528]

@@TimCammisa The usual suspects :) Devin Olsen, George Daniel and Lance Egan. Time on the water with those materials was the key for me (and I'm still learning of course). I find Tom Rosenbauer's podcasts, books and videos also incredibly helpful for things like reading the water and understanding how fish behave under different conditions.

[@AndrewLakey]

It is a very effective method...we have been using the techniques for years but the advancements in equipment and techniques gained through competition have defiantly made an impact.

[@TimCammisa]

Agreed, Andrew, and well said! Many have been using many areas of Euro nymphing, all to varying degrees of success. As more companies have jumped on board, the advancements have significantly grown and become more mainstream for all. It's such an addicting style, isn't it? Tim www.troutandfeather.com

[@johnsamothrakis4621]

Great Video Tim , Thanks 👍

[@TimCammisa]

You're welcome, John, I truly appreciate the kind words! All well on your end? Tim

[@johnsamothrakis4621]

@@TimCammisa Hi Tim , all well here, was out on Thursday , only 1 trout. But am happy, hope all is well with you & your family, looking forward to your next tying video, learning a lot watching your videos . Thanks

[@jaykaneshige2201]

Hey Tim. Enjoying my subscription... My 'home water' is the Upper Sac near Mt Shasta. On this river, 'tight line / high sticking' was started in the 1920's by a Wintu Indian, Ted Towendolly, and made famous by Ted Fay in the 40's - 70's. I've added a couple Euro nymphing concepts to my highsticking and I feel it has benefited. Tight lining is an amazing technique, but I don't know if it or Euro nymphing is cheating, but I feel folks only focussed on Euro nymphing get cheated out of the full experience in fly fishing. When my cousin who is totally sold on Euro nymphing after one trip (with the same basic results/numbers as his previous 'conventional' trip) tells me 'matching the hatch' is not important, I think is truly unfortunate. I've read an article about a young Pennsylvania Euro guy who had the same attitude towards his traditional mentor. While I dredge the freestone bottoms with my Ted techniques, there is nothing I love more than figuring out what the fish are feeding on by reading the rocks, rise forms, flying bugs, flows, etc. and getting success. That is when I eagerly change my tight line setup to whatever is necessary. I've been fly tying since I was 12 yrs old, and I'm thinking much of the flies today are becoming 'lures'. While flies like the perdigons got me interested when they were first introduced, I've become disenchanted with the monotony. Heck-- even Vlad's Polish nymphs had more intent to resemble some bug! So maybe Euro nymphing is not cheating, but many out there are getting cheated of the full experience for fly fishing.

[@TimCammisa]

Thanks for the comments, Jay, and excellent thoughts shared with us. I agree with the sentiment completely, though I would argue that I know many "traditional" fly fishers who have the same approach...i.e. fish without enjoying the full experience. Here's my one-minute video talking about that: instagram.com/p/COaP4S7jzkZ/ Thanks again for taking the time and hope to run into you on the water! Tim www.troutandfeather.com

[@alltroutdout7746]

I been doing this for years now and man I LOVE IT lol.... now tryna move to STEELHEAD ESN this fall and I cant wait to smash the tribs we have here in Ontario

[@TimCammisa]

The Euro Nymph addiction is real! Thanks for the comment and verifying that style. Do you have a rod picked out yet for steelhead? I use a modified noodle rod with a Euro setup and it works so well. Tim www.troutandfeather.com

[@mikelundrigan2285]

Hi Tim, Thanks for replying! I have been fishing for trout since I was 5! Started with worms! I am 67 now. I taught myself to tie flys at 14 by reverse engineering a fly I was given and never stopped! Almost all my trout fishing has been with a fly rod since! I almost always fish a Muddler style fly on the point and a smallish wet on the dropper (usually a #12 picket pin). This combo has caught thousands of trout for me over the years! Hardly ever fish dry flys as I never felt the need and it was very hard to get decent dry fly hackles where I live 50+ years ago! As for some “purists” being “offended” by using a spinning rod, I think that is simply malarkey! I remember meeting Dick Swan at a sportsman’s show in Toronto many years ago and listening to him tell me about the advantages of his noodle rods for steel head in the Great Lakes! Did buy one but not his! If that method was good enough for someone like him....! have it all these years later but never used it! But you have now reminded me so perhaps it will get some use at long last! Tight lines!

[@TimCammisa]

You got it, Mike, and I appreciate the information. Fishing is something we all love and I'm glad you've been confident in the ways in which you do so. Thanks again! Tim www.troutandfeather.com

[@anthonykocis8232]

Tim, I was always frustrated with the indicators, knowing there is so much slack between the indicator and the fly in broken water so when this technique came around I went all in, I love it and it's been a game changer. However, I still indicator nymph when the fish are hard to reach or on big water or on very steady long riffles it still works good. I'd rather dry fly fish, euro nymphing is tiring for sure. I also love to wet fly fish when the fish are active. It is a nice break from euro, but euro is my go to and I catch a lot of fish. It is amazing how fast a wild fish can spit out a nymph and you will find that our with euro.

[@TimCammisa]

Thank you for sharing, Anthony, and you mentioned some excellent points. Indicator fishing remains a part of my arsenal, and it can be effective (and fun!). I haven't swung wet flies in awhile...you may be persuading me to do so. Thanks again for the thoughts! Tim www.troutandfeather.com

[@Niallkelly7310]

This is my first year Euro nymphing. I’ve caught hundreds of fish since the start of the season. E.g. on a new stretch last week on the barrow I’ve never fished before, I caught 40 trout in a few hours. It’s an amazing method and I love it

[@TimCammisa]

Awesome and glad to hear you love it, too! Tim www.troutandfeather.com

[@rewolfe333]

Tell me more !! I fish a small stream in northeast pa and also spring creek in state college. Can I use a 9' 3wt(that I already have or do i need a longer rod? ) also what does the euro leader look like? Help me out bro. Thanks again and again for everything you put on utube.

[@TimCammisa]

Yes...use that rod! The first one I used to Euro nymph was exactly that length and weight. The first leader I used: amzn.to/3bnWmvp Thanks and let me know how it works for you. Tim www.troutandfeather.com

[@richardferrara86]

Good stuff Tim! It’s amazing the difference in catch rate using a “euro” approach.

[@TimCammisa]

Thanks, Rich, that means a lot coming from you. For others that are reading these comments, is this your primary tactic, or do you incorporate other fly fishing styles when on the water? Tim www.troutandfeather.com

[@richardferrara86]

@@TimCammisa I incorporate other tactics as well. On all but the shortest of outings I’m carrying a minimum of 3 rods on my person at all times. Sometimes more. A rod to nymph with a light leader. A rod with a thicker leader to fish dry dropper or float my sighter. A rod to fish a single dry, and sometimes a rod to fish a single or double streamer or swing wet flies. All rods will have a leader setup that satisfies FIPS rules.

[@dalesheehan9404]

Tim. How would I get info about floating the leader? Thanks

[@TimCammisa]

Hi Dale, what kind of information are you looking for? There may be some online, though if you have specific questions, shoot me an email: [e-mail] Thanks! Tim www.troutandfeather.com

[@jeremiahgonzales3290]

I have been fishing Since I was a little boy. I got my first flyrod when I was 13 years old. I was always taught to dry fly fish when I first started out. I had decent success. now I’m 36 i’ve been dabbling with Eurostyle fishing. And I have really struggled with the technique I’ve caught some fish. The other day my friend and I were out on the water and we were using indicators, And that’s the first day that I had a break out day Caught way more fish than normal. So here I am trying to learn the technique of Tying euro flies. But one thing I’ve learned in life is to be flexible and to go with the flow of whatever the fish are doing best that day.

[@TimCammisa]

Well said, Jeremiah, and I'm excited to know you had that breakout day! Learning a new style always involve a learning curve...stick with it and shoot me an email with any questions: [e-mail] Thanks! Tim www.troutandfeather.com

[@PeachyFlyFishing]

Thanks Tim, I thoroughly agree with your sentiments. I love euro nymphing, though I had thought for years that it looked a bit boring just hanging nymphs under the rod tip. But after discovering some of the longer line nymphing techniques using spanish and french style leaders I've totally changed my mind about that. It's skilful, it's exciting, it's versatile and as you mentioned first and foremost, it's deadly. I also share some of your reservations about being careful with it. I had a morning recently here in Australia where I caught 65 trout from a 200 metre stretch of river. Not a big river either, only a couple of rod lengths wide. That caused me to think very carefully about how I handle fish and really made an effort to take good care of the ones that I catch, and to release them in the best condition I can. And also at some point, after catching enough fish, maybe I will change to another technique or just stop fishing. Thanks for sharing!

[@TimCammisa]

Thanks for sharing, and I'm glad you took the plunge into Euro nymphing! It sounds like you had an incredible morning...and I am waiting for that invitation to Australia! ;-) I appreciate your thoughts on the notion of catching more fish and thank you ahead of time for sharing this video with others. Tim www.troutandfeather.com

[@PeachyFlyFishing]

@@TimCammisa Any time you come through Sydney I'd be happy to take you out for a fish! :)

[@TimCammisa]

@@PeachyFlyFishing I’m in! 😉

[@samburgio8825]

My story exactly...I nymphed Joe humfery style...no floating indicator....caught lots of fish like that...now I fish a micro leader 10 foot 2 and 3 weight nymph rod and it's awesome.

[@TimCammisa]

Thanks for sharing, Sam! It's great to know you're into micro leaders, as they allow for so much sensitivity. Able to share the leader formula? Tim www.troutandfeather.com

[@samburgio8825]

@@TimCammisa u got it. I have not been to trout and feather in a while...real busy...good busy. I'm going to hit that site up this weekend and get back to you for sure. Good fishing! 😎✌

[@jesspetro2389]

I started euro nymphing a couple of years ago and absolutely love it! Before my husband and I would catch a couple of fish a day and be happy but when I started euro nymphing I was catching 3 times more fish than him! After a couple of months of watching me catch so many fish and he would only catch a handful his jealousy got the better of him and asked me to teach him. Now we both euro nymph and absolutely love it! Before we would have days where we wouldn't catch any fish, that never happens anymore. We got skunked for the first time in over year a couple of weeks ago! 1 time in over a year that we didn't catch anything! I consistently catch 20 to 40 fish whenever we go out and people can't believe it but we've got the pictures and video to prove it! We are both always very careful and how we handle the fish and make sure we touch them as little as possible and get them back in the water as fast as possible. It really made our home waters feel like an entirely new place to both of us! I learned watching videos on KZbin from Devin Olson and Lance Egan mostly. They both have great tutorials out there as well as their euro nymphing video series, I bought all of them and still continue to research and learn and love it! I also absolutely love tying flies for euro nymphing!

[@TimCammisa]

Hi Jessica, and it sounds like you're all in, too! I really appreciate you taking the time to comment on how it has worked for you and your husband. I'm curious, did you use a traditional fly line prior? Or was Euro nymphing your introduction into fly fishing? Thanks again! Tim www.troutandfeather.com

[@ChristisKing117]

As some who is just getting into fly fishing and someone who hunts and fishes for food. If there is a way for me to increase my odds of putting food on the table, I do it within the areas fishing/hunting regulations. Secondly, casting all day long is not much fun. As a beginner fly fisher, its very easy to gets discouraged when you are still learning how to dial in the one particular fly they are hitting on. It’s too easy for me to revert back to drifting night crawlers on my spinning rod and know I’ll get fish to put on the table. When starting whatever is the easiest and most productive, is the best way to get and keep people in fly fishing.

[@TimCammisa]

Thanks for the comments, Bill, and this is the way that I introduced my wife to fly fishing (for those very same reasons!). If you ever have specific questions, let me know: [e-mail] Thanks! Tim

[@uni_shadow164]

I have upped my game utilizing this Euro style nymphing! When I used to catch 1 or 2, now becomes 5, 7 or more! I have caught more trout in the last 3 years on a fly rod than the previous 20 years combined.

[@TimCammisa]

Thanks for taking a moment to comment, and I completely agree. Moving past fish numbers, do you also feel that Euro nymphing has given you perspective to examine water differently? In my experience, I believe it has done so, plus given me more confidence, especially in waters where I used to catch few or no fish. Thanks for continuing the conversation and I hope all is well! Tim www.troutandfeather.com

[@SF-ku2hp]

I caught more trout in my first year euro nymphing than the last 10 years using a spinning rod. It’s addicting a lot of times gotta take a break after catching so many. Wish I would have gotten into it sooner fly fishing always seemed to have that hard learning curve this is a lot easier that slinging drys and much more effective most of the time.

[@mikerapeer4848]

I love when you go to a spot and nobody is catching anything using traditional methods and I come along euro nymphing a pull some trout out. Just happened on big pine creek when it was blown out.

[@TimCammisa]

Ha ha, I know EXACTLY what you mean, Mike! Now the bigger question: Do you share the tactics you're using if they ask? Tim www.troutandfeather.com

[@mikerapeer4848]

Yes I do. I also tell them where to find videos to get them started in euro nymphing. That helped me. I even show them the nymphs I’m using and what there called and where to find them also. I share all my knowledge with whoever wants to listen.

[@Gulgonful]

Here’s a hot take for you Tim: Euro nymphing, tenkara, and cane pole fishing are all the same and are all great techniques. I euro nymph and tenkara fish by necessity. Most of the smaller waters I have access to are tight, brush covered, rocky streams with great brook trout populations. The flies are easy to tie, the technique is simple, and the results are great. It’s a no brained for me. Euro and tenkara for trout and western fly for anything else.

[@TimCammisa]

Thanks for sharing, though it's tough to argue that any two styles are all the "same." Do they have similarities? Absolutely, but I just returned from Iceland, and my group fished Euro, Tenkara, and traditional fly. The Euro leader was able to fish at distance, over 40' away, and deadly...until the wind kicked up! Tenkara was the surprise winner for Arctic char in tight situations, again until the wind kicked up. Each has their place and I believe that being proficient at many styles is a benefit to anglers. Tim www.troutandfeather.com

[@johnshand6176]

A controversial heading but a great video and one I will think about when next on the Tongariro River down-under with my Sage 4 weight ESN and barbless hooks. Kindest regards.

[@TimCammisa]

Thanks for the comments, John, and I think your setup tells me your thoughts on Euro nymphing! Any additional thoughts to share are greatly appreciated...or an invitation to fish there! ;-) Thanks again. Tim www.troutandfeather.com

[@philipvankampen3394]

Man, what a tough subject. I mean, sometimes I'm out 'euro' nymphing and other days I'm swinging wet flies. Sometimes I'm looking to slay 'em and other days I just want to pull out the trout spey rod and swing all day. I was the first of our little group to start tight line nymphing and gradually everybody else has ended up adding 10'+ rods to their vault. Personally, I committed to one year of fishing a mono rig setup. It taught me a lot about fly fishing and, ironically, I became a better caster in the process. The margins for error casting a 30' leader with weighted flies is certainly smaller than casting a dry fly. And ultimately, you are going to want to actually cast these flies. Lobbing is for bobber guys. ;) Cheating is casting bait. But, casting bait isn't cheating if you're bait fishing. Of course, if you're bait fishing with a fly rod I might not want to have a beer with you - unless you're paying?

[@Echowouldgo]

First time euro nymphing yesterday. Cleaned up on a difficult river while everyone else pulled out their hair trying to match the hatch with no success. Fly fishing is a style and an ethos. Choose your own adventure, preach stewardship and conservation, have fun and don’t listen to the haters.

[@TimCammisa]

Really glad you had success with this style, Aaron! Keep it going and shoot me an email with any questions: [e-mail] Congrats! Tim

[@dannybarker442]

It is a great way to fly fish and catch many trout. When I was growing up in the Appalachian Mountains of West Virginia and Virginia for Brook trout, we used to fish this way in the late forties and fifties. We didn't call it Euro nymphing, but we used short lines fishing various flies with split shots in those small streams. We used both conventional tackle and fly tackle. The fly line never left the rod tip. The world has rebranded this long ago fishing technic used by hillbillys with tungsten beads 60-degree jig hooks instead of lead shot 90-degree jig hooks and Euro nymphing rods instead of conventional rods. In my opinion, it is an improved technic, that catches a lot of fish, not a new one that the world has been led to believe. Danny Barker, Fly Fishing Guide

[@TimCammisa]

Thanks for the comments, Danny, and at the end of the day, we're just fishing. ;-) That's a good thing, no matter the name of the style. I love to Euro nymph and am thankful for the modern gear that truly has refined this concept. I hope all is well and Happy New Year! Tim www.troutandfeather.com

[@marcbaeten8884]

Agreed. EN is way more effectiv. But be honest catching one on a single dry fly is by far the best. For me it is all about the quality and not the quantity. But yeh it is so personal

[@TimCammisa]

Hi Marc, and you hit the point PERFECTLY! Fly fishing is wonderful because it allows each of us to choose our own lanes, whether it involve Euro nymphing, articulated streamers or dry flies. Sounds like you've chosen a couple of good ones. ;-) Thanks for taking a moment to comment. Tim www.troutandfeather.com

[@chach3]

My catch rates went up at least 6 times as many fish. I used to have 5 fish days but those turned into 30 fish days. The most I have caught in a day was close to 60.

[@TimCammisa]

Hey Ryan, thanks for taking a moment to share. It's crazy how this has really changed the game for so many fishers, and I'm glad you've had a similar experience. Do you feel it's benefits have also upped your dry fly game, too? Tim www.troutandfeather.com

[@dannyjett7225]

Hi Tim Danny Jettt here. In regards to your question should we fish Euro Nymphing more or less? It would be my opinion we should retain all fishing styles including Euro Nymphing. Fish are handled by anglers every time we catch one. As long as we wet our hands and not handle the fish very much. Then the fish slime protective coating would not be removed too much. As long as that fish is immediately returned to the water, then it will survive. I have fish I have hooked prior and even 3 or 4 times and all were very healthy. True some are hooked too many times causing holes and tears in the mouth. But the mouth skin does grow back. The only other down fall would be the fish learning the technique and refusing to take the lure. Thanks Tim for the excellent video. It was great.

[@TimCammisa]

Danny, great comments! You and I are on the same page here; Euro nymphing is another arrow in the quiver. I appreciate your suggestions for others when it comes to handling fish, too. Thanks for taking the time and I hope you're fishing season is going well! Tim www.troutandfeather.com

[@dannyjett7225]

@@TimCammisa Thanks Tim.👍👍

[@kenharman4858]

Been tying nymphs for a couple winters.

[@brianmacelroy636]

Another fantastic video Not cheating .. just good fishing

[@TimCammisa]

Agreed, Brian, it's a method I love and am pushing myself to learn more about! How has the season started for you? Tim www.troutandfeather.com

[@bobmatuzak2263]

Consequences. That’s an interesting point. When I first started euro nymphing my numbers went way up but lately my numbers are trending down. I think the fish are wising up. I spoken to Josh about this and he feels the same way. It’s not as easy as it once was. it’s a little tougher but I still catch more fish than traditional nymphing. But I definitely can see consequences.

[@TimCammisa]

Just like all things, Bob...the fish seem to learn, don't they? ;-) That means we simply have to adjust and get better, too. I feel the same way, so I've spent a little more time getting off of the beaten path. Thanks for sharing your thoughts and I hope all is well! Tim www.troutandfeather.com

[@edroberts8405]

I been fly fishing for over 30 years and for the last 4 years all I been doing is euro nymph, I love it. I been teaching new people to fly fishing how to euro nymph right from the start and they pick up euro nymphing faster and catch more fish. So people are staying with euro nymphing fly fishing and not quitting as they would with just fly fishing.

[@TimCammisa]

Thanks for taking a moment to comment, Ed. Why do you believe people stick with this system more so than others? Does it relate to catching more fish? When my wife started fly fishing a few years ago, Euro nymphing was the system I first showed her. Like all others, there was a learning curve, but her drifts are excellent and she really enjoys the system. We've had to reintroduce a traditional fly line when taking trips on lakes and in the saltwater, but that's another fun facet of fly fishing she's enjoyed learning. Thanks again. Tim www.troutandfeather.com

[@j.r.dewyer7163]

Great video. I was introduced to euro nymphing by "kids", 30 year olds, who fish competitively about 8 years ago. (I'm in my mid 50's). It has changed my way of fishing. Crazy numbers as you stated. And the biggest fish. Several 2 ft + fish. I too, will keep cheating 🤣🤣🤣

[@TimCammisa]

Ha ha, so cheating is fun?!? ;-) Fortunately, it's about way more than just numbers, but has really changed the way I approach fishing. Thanks for the comments, and please share this with others so they can enjoy the fun, too. Tim www.troutandfeather.com

[@JerrodPotter]

Yeah, if I fished the same stretches of water that I normally fish in the Willamette Valley of Oregon by indicator nymphing, I'd probably catch around 5-10 fish in a 8 hour period. But my "normal" numbers on the same stretch of water, over the same amount time, I'll haul in between 40-80 fish. It's pretty crazy.

[@TimCammisa]

That's so crazy...yet I know it's true. Fly fishing isn't all about numbers, but under many conditions, Euro nymphing is truly incredible. Thanks for taking a moment to comment, and please consider sharing this video with a few friends. Tim www.troutandfeather.com

[@marathonguy999]

Joe Humphreys taught me the Tuck cast 23 years ago n I never looked back. Learn the tuck and you will never have to cheat again!

[@raydickert8602]

I love to euro nymph to. I do think in some rivers it can be a handicap also. For instance this past weekend I fished a stretch of the hiawassie river in Georgia. It belonged to the campground we were staying. After walking around a bit I noticed they had fish feeders on their property to. These fish would hit euro nymphs so hard and violently they would snap my flys right off the tippet. All I had was 5x and 6x tippet with me. I brought 5 to the net. These fish were hot. 16 to 18 inch fish were dogging me. The big fish in their would snap you right off. Next time I go back their. Streamer rod in hand and the fight will be on. I also have got caught up thinking the euro game was all their was. I’m 52 a life long streamer addict. Tie all my own flys. Euro nymphing is addictive just from the numbers. This weekend the trout showed me it could be a crutch to.

[@TimCammisa]

Well said, Ray, and thanks for mentioning this to others. There is a time and place for Euro nymphing, as is there for the other styles. I look it each as arrows within my quiver...and choose accordingly. Streamers, now that's fun! ;-) Have any recommended streamer patterns to share with us? Thanks! Tim www.troutandfeather.com

[@raydickert8602]

@@TimCammisa believe it or not my favorite streamer pattern is the cheech leech pattern by fly fish food. The olive and Halloween colors have accounted for a lot of my big brown trout and rainbows. Down her in South Carolina we mainly have stocked and delayed harvest rivers. So I when the river is rising and up some the hold over trout like to play. Another pattern of course is their to. The complex bugger in the copper color man it’s lights out.

[@TimCammisa]

Those sound like some EXCELLENT streamers, thanks for sharing!

[@swimmaster406]

State College fisherman here, I switched to Euro Nymphing last year and I actually can't get enough of it. No joke, all I fish are dark colored perdigons as my point fly and a sexy walts as my tag fly. I catch 8x more fish, and the perdigons have caught me 18-19" fish. I think it's more fun than dry flies and streamers too honestly, I love it. George Daniel got me into it through his class at PSU and has taught me tons of information.

[@TimCammisa]

Hi Justin and glad to talk to a fellow fly fisher who enjoys some of the same water! I appreciate you taking the time to share your experiences...plus the details with those two great patterns. George is an inspiration for all of us and I'm glad he got you moving in this direction. What are some of your favorite waters to fish in that area? I LOVE the J! Tim www.troutandfeather.com

[@mikelundrigan2285]

Interesting! Wouldn’t drop shot fishing with a fly rod be very similar and effective too?? And couldn’t one use 2 or more flys at the same time at different heights in the water column? Could use a long limber Spinning rod and open face reel instead and drop shot flys too! More than one way to skin a cat!

[@TimCammisa]

Hi Mike, and drop-shot fishing is another style for sure. In that system, the contact is more so with the weight versus the flies. It's a great system to use, especially when wanting to drift multiple small flies in fast or deep water, when their weight alone won't put you in the correct position. But the spinning rod? Ha! I'm sure others may be offended by that suggestion, though I will counter that the Euro nymph rod is getting close to a noodle rod. ;-) More importantly, this is fishing and all about having fun and selecting the method(s) we prefer best. Appreciate your comments and hope to hear more from you in the future on my other videos. Tim www.troutandfeather.com

[@steelhead6368]

I just got into fly fishing transitioning from centerpining or float fishing. All this hype with euronymphing.... Simply... for me, if I'm going to euro nymph I'll just stick to float fishing with centerpin reels.

[@mbranle1]

Without question this is a more effective way of presenting subsurface patterns to fish holding in the lower third of the water column. The question that has been nagging at me lately is this... When the time comes to teach my kids how to fly fish, is it unfair to them to start them with this technique? Me, you and probably most of the commenters learned the sport in a much different way. I personally read books on insects, hatch cycles, and how to create feathered imitations. I studied others' techniques and spent countless hours experimenting with traditional methods of fly presentation. I've been on the water for 35 years, fished different parts of the world, etc, all because of the work it took to get me here. Starting kids right off straight line nymphing will reward them with the thrill of hooking fish, but with a tradeoff IMO. I think kids will not learn properly loading of the rod (ever try to double-haul your micro rig?), line management, the feeling of a soft vs. fast flex rod. Then there are the patterns... I use one or 2 perdigon patterns in 3 different sizes for an entire season in Central PA. How will a kid learn the entomology and "matching the hatch" if she/he is shown a handful of patterns that the fish just cant resist all year long? I'd love to hear your feedback.

[@samburgio8825]

👍

[@TimCammisa]

Thanks!

[@djuengst2000]

I’ve been “euro nymphing” cuz I don’t like using a strike indicator. On small streams it’s the only way to go. I don’t think you can euro nymph on a lake or large pool. Maybe I’m doing it wrong? Also, I love your fly tying videos.

[@TimCammisa]

Hi Derrick, and thanks for taking a moment to comment. Great questions! For large pools, I use a Euro rig, with a dry fly (or indicator) at the top, then a small nymph off of the point. It's an excellent technique. On a lake? I'll have to think about that one, though I tend to only use this system in moving water. Thanks again. Tim www.troutandfeather.com

[@FlyFishDan]

I’ve never tried Euro Nymphing...perhaps it’s time :))

[@bigron8346]

I have the whole setup but haven't tried it yet.

[@TERRYBIGGENDEN]

I feel Euronymping is just the latest 'thing' . I go fishing for the sheer pleasure of being in a lovely setting and working to see if I can catch a fish on a fly-wet or dry. If I get a couple, I'm pleased. Who cares about volume? I donlt care how big they are either )I do like bigger than fingerling of course!) :-) Honestly, ir's a bit balmy. :-(

[@TimCammisa]

Thanks for sharing your thoughts, Terry, and that's the best part of fly fishing: We each get to choose our own lane. No matter what the next fisher is doing, the sport is where we choose to take it. For some (including myself), that involves Euro nymphing, but it's not for everyone. I remember a few years ago during a presentation I was giving, I made a statement, something like, "And of course, everyone loves to catch fish on a dry fly, the best method." Immediately after speaking, two people came up to me and explained their favorite methods (nymphing for one, and throwing articulated streamers for the other). It was a quick reminder that we all have our own thoughts, opinions, and ideas...and that's a GREAT thing! Thanks again, Terry, and I hope all is well. Tim www.troutandfeather.com

[@TERRYBIGGENDEN]

​@@TimCammisa Thanks for the thoughtful reply I appreciate it. I do what you might call conventional nyphig and appreciate other kinds of fly fishing. I use traditional wet flies and try dries when possible. I also am a big fan of kebari flies on conventional gear. I hope I wasn't too rude. Our trout season ends this weekend. but we can fish for other species (perch and carp-carp her are a total ecological disaster and we are required to kill them. Best wishes and I love all your experience and advice. :-)

[@TimCammisa]

@@TERRYBIGGENDEN of course, and your thoughts were great, too! Sorry your season is ending...where do you live?

[@TERRYBIGGENDEN]

@@TimCammisa Im in Australia (NSW). We have a four month quiet time for breeding, although we can fish in lakes and dams. Many rivers are declared trout streams, while others are open all year. We have a very different climate compared to other places-very variable rain and flows. We also have cold weather in many places, and tomorrow it will only be 2degrees C where I often go. :-).

[@GeorgeSemel]

Well, I don't care, I been casting flies since 1963. Will I take it up, honestly I don't think so. But you can go break a leg with it! (good luck to those of you in Rio Linda) I know a few that have jumped both feet into it. As for me, I like the blue line thing and brook trout. If anything I may buy a 7'6" 3 wt just for that. I really don't get started till the end of June going into July. I like the thin water and terrestrials, midges, and well trico's. The trico's forced me to get up make the drive to the only game in town, the West Branch of the Farmington to fish the spinner fall. 70 miles one way, I leave my home at 3:30 in the morning so I am all set up and ready as the sun comes up. I fish to around 11 am. And there are few people around. It's been more crowded than usual the last two years. This year it's been terrible with crowds. As for the other thing, fishing is still a blood sport even with catch and release, there is a percentage of mortality and it should be considered. Over the long term, there may be some effect on trout populations, especially wild trout populations. No, it's not cheating, but I think we should give a lot of thought to the number of fish brought to the net. We have bag limits, catch and release is widespread and accepted, maybe a landed fish limit or hook up limit should be considered. An unwritten rule something self-imposed.

[@TimCammisa]

Thanks for sharing, George, lots of good stuff there. Like you, I love to chase brook trout, and prefer to do so with a bamboo rod I built myself. If you ever decide to get into Euro nymphing, don't hesitate to reach out with questions. Thanks for taking the time to comment. Tim www.troutandfeather.com

[@lindalyon]

Just because we can catch way more fish, doesn’t mean we have to.

[@dalesheehan9404]

I’ve been a successful nymph fisherman over the years. Once I stumbled onto euro Nymphing my numbers have gotten crazy. Today I was out and slammed them in water that would have been practically unfishable using traditional Nymphing techniques. I am a big time fan of euro Nymphing.

[@TimCammisa]

Glad to hear about the success, Dale! I felt EXACTLY that way when learning to float the leader. I'm curious: What was the difference for you today? Tim www.troutandfeather.com

[@dalesheehan9404]

Tim today there was a stretch that was ripping at a good clip and you needed to get down quick,so it was fast water with very short drift opportunities.Any other method I feel would have never gotten to the fish. My leader is .008 with 4x sighter and 6x tippet it’s a very thin system.

[@bigron8346]

Sounds like you have an awesome wife!!

[@TimCammisa]

Ron, you have no idea! :-) Are you a lucky guy, too? Tim www.troutandfeather.com

[@rickbobrick6573]

Can't remember the source, but as a DFO guy this quote sums it up for me: "[Euro]Nymphing is like drinking prune juice, very effective but a little awkward to brag about the result."

[@TimCammisa]

Ha ha, Rick, thanks for sharing. Fortunately, fly fishing is about having fun, the bragging stuff can be left for others. Euro nymphing is another quiver for me, an has made me a better fly fisher. Have you tried it? Tim www.troutandfeather.com

[@rickbobrick6573]

@@TimCammisa No Tim, I gave up nymphing many years ago. Clearly a very effective style, to each his own - as long as its legal. My guess is that the legions of Euronymphers out there will find that its effectiveness will diminish over time - especially with attractor nymphs. Take a look in George Daniels' fly box and you'll have trouble finding anything but hatch matching ties. It is much harder for trout to get conditioned to naturals v attractors; the current barrage of Perdigon "flies" will find the same fate as most fad flies.

[@bobhammond8067]

Caught my biggest fish Euronymphing!!

[@TimCammisa]

Yes, Bob!! Give me some details! Fish types, fly, leader setup...any are appreciated! Plus, if you have a picture of the fish, shoot me an email: [e-mail] Thanks! Tim

[@bobhammond8067]

Rainbows, standard Euro set up with a sighter, 5X to 6X tippet. Rainbows were around 20 inches. Point flies were heavy Golden Stones, with pretty non descript perdigone droppers. I use a Cortland Competition 10'6" 3 weight, or an 11' 2 weight, also a Cortland. Line is Cortland Euro for both rigs. I lost 2 fish that were much larger than 20, I believe. Both were hooked maybe five feet out from where I was standing, and both took off like freight trains. A better fisherman would have caught them, I believe.

[@MTtyer]

After many decades of fly fishing...my old-fart opinion is that euro nymphing is an "elementary" way to fly fish. I a person likes it...fine. If your goal is to just catch more fish on anything...fine. But traditional fly fishing, at least for me, is just more......"satisfying"..... It just gives me my "peace". Just saying..... :)

[@TimCammisa]

Thanks for commenting, Bruce, and I'm curious about "elementary" for this system. From my personal experiences, typical nymph fishing involved a standard fly line, a nymph leader, and some split shot (indicators occasionally). For this system, I am now making constant adjustments to my tippet, rod angle, weight selection, and water type. Though I've been involved in Euro nymphing for years, I still am researching leader systems and strategies to enhance casting and fishing. Does it catch more fish? For me, absolutely. With that said, I LOVE a traditional fly line when fly fishing on lakes, saltwater, and dry fly fishing. Casting with one is like nothing else, again, in my opinion. Fly fishing is so awesome, as it allows each of us to choose our own lanes. Based on your comments, have you Euro nymphed and prefer other methods? Tim www.troutandfeather.com

[@josesfishingchannel6592]

I forsee this type of fishing method being heavily regulated or outright outlawed in the state of Michigan. Similar thing happened to dropshotting, and three pronged weighted hooks. Fishing here is a billion dollar industry that is carefully regulated. The state will soon take notice that euro nymphers can potentially decimate this industry. Sad but I see it coming....

[@josephlehosky6889]

If you are worried about the fish, don’t touch them. Use a release tool to remove hook without taking fish out of the water. If fish is too large to release that way, use the largest net you can carry and unhook it. Then allow it to recover in the net before releasing

[@TimCammisa]

Thanks for the comments, Joseph, and the notion of catching more fish goes a tad farther than simply touching them. As many understand, fishing increases the potential to harm fish and it was my intention to make others aware through this video. I appreciate you sharing some excellent tips to reduce our impact. Thanks again. Tim www.troutandfeather.com

[@chrisvandonsel365]

Hmmm ? Noodle rod , nymph , old hat

[@TimCammisa]

Ha, Chris, you're pretty close! I build bamboo fly rods, too, and when I use my Euro nymph rod, it's more of a stiff butt with flexible tip...but with a strong recovery after the cast (unlike bamboo and noodle rods). Now the old hat, that's optional. ;-) Thanks for the comment and I hope all is well! Tim www.troutandfeather.com

[@jodypower4606]

I've been euro nymphing and it is way more effective in my opinion. Where I live not many have heard of it and I won't tell them the real numbers anymore, they won't believe me anyway. Lots of bigger fish too, and places you can't really fish properly any other way

[@TimCammisa]

The comments are appreciated, Jody, and I know what you mean re: the numbers. Let's take this another direction: If you had to return to "traditional" fly fishing, do you think the strategies you learned Euro nymphing would improve that facet for you? Tim www.troutandfeather.com

[@jodypower4606]

@@TimCammisa I still do like to throw dry flies and streamers. I'm sure euro nymphing has helped with other types of fly fishing, but I think of it more as another tool in the tool box. It just so happens to work amazingly well

[@robertandersson331]

what a fish

[@TimCammisa]

Thanks, Robert, it was a fun one! How's all with you? Tim www.troutandfeather.com

[@robertandersson331]

@@TimCammisa im ok its close now to flyfishing lol

[@TimCammisa]

@@robertandersson331 Glad it's almost there for you!

[@jamiestewart4087]

They used to say that nymphing was for cheaters too.

[@TimCammisa]

Ha, exactly, Jamie! Funny how things change over time. So I'm curious, are you into Euro nymphing? Thanks for the comment. Tim www.troutandfeather.com

[@jamiestewart4087]

@@TimCammisa I have been known to throw a nymph or two, but not with a euro rig. That's cheating Tim!

[@TimCammisa]

HA! Well said, Jamie!

[@johncomitz9479]

It’s pretty sad that “ numbers “ have become the driving force of fly fishing for trout to some fly fishers. It’s great that Euro nymphers are catching so many trout. It’s fun to have success when fly fishing. However, I must say for me some of my best days out on a stream have been a two trout day. Life is too short to become so focused on numbers. Stop and smell the roses - flora and fauna that encompass the “whole” of the fly fishing experience. I have been fly fishing and tying for 53 years. Maybe that’s why I feel the way I do.

[@TimCammisa]

Thanks for the comment, John, and you're not alone in your beliefs. Catching fish (i.e. numbers) has always been part of the sport of fishing, and fly fishing is an extension so it's naturally there. The beauty of our sport is that we're each allowed and encouraged to drive in our own lanes. It sounds like you love fly fishing too and don't worry too much about what others think. Thanks again. Tim www.troutandfeather.com

[@rushthezeppelin]

I love doing Euro nymphing but man nothing beats a 3-5 trout day swinging huge streamers. I just love the grabs and trying to read water for a streamer hit (even if the vast majority of hits comes on the dangle for me lol). It's especially something else when you get that hit on the other side of a stream in some slack water literally milliseconds after your streamer hits the water.

[@jeffcopenhaver2217]

If you ain’t cheating, you ain’t trying! Lol

[@TimCammisa]

Ha! Too funny, Jeff. So does that mean you're into Euro nymphing? Tim www.troutandfeather.com

[@jeffcopenhaver2217]

@@TimCammisa yes it does Tim. Growing up and living in Central Pa, high sticking was what I grew up on. So when euro nymphing hit the scene, it was a seamless progression for me.

[@rudyruiz9521]

Like everyone I want to be successful and catch something. However, I just don't enjoy European Nymphing. I've done it successfully many times and it just isn't fun to me. I enjoy the satisfaction of a great cast and even a retrieve with streamers. I get more satisfaction making a perfect cast than catching the fish, so for me it just isn't worth doing.

[@TimCammisa]

Thanks for commenting, Rudy, and this is the beauty of fly fishing: We each get to choose our own path. Tim www.troutandfeather.com

[@shawnworr]

Sure it's fishing, like in a barrel, just don't call it fly fishing. The guides in NY would resort to this method with clients that were new to the sport. Send them home happy.

[@TimCammisa]

Hi Shawn, and thanks for your comments. I actually find some of Euro nymphing to be quite challenging, but it's a method I love and turn to. Can you explain how this differs from fly fishing? Thanks! Tim www.troutandfeather.com

[@MoultonDave]

piscator non solum piscator

[@TimCammisa]

Lots of great fly fishers out there, and I consider Euro nymphing another arrow in my quiver! www.troutandfeather.com

[@bucknakediam5837]

I love cheating when the fish aren't taking anything of the surface, can make for a great day when the fish aren't rising!

[@TimCammisa]

So what do you think about a dry-dropper from a Euro rig? Tim www.troutandfeather.com