Europa Universalis 4 - Castile - Tutorial for Beginners! #6 - Ending the War

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[@marcelobk1000]

Quill, there's absolutely no relation between your size and the amount of overextension you get. It's a simple as: 1% overextension for each point of uncored development, modified by administrative efficiency. You can see that the total amount of development you got from Granada is 27 (15 from Granada, 6 from Almeria, 6 from Gibraltar), so 27% overextension.

[@TheDsterman]

+marcelobk1000 He probably thought it was the same as in EU3, where you get the over extension modifier if you have less cored provinces than non-cored ones.

[@mattbenz99]

Can confirm. I have been playing as Russia lately and I am still shocked by how little territory I am allowed to conquer at once. I span half of Asia and I can only take a few provinces at once.

[@ZootTM]

Thanks for sharing your insanely rich knowledge on this game with us!

[@Zacchaeus55]

It's so interesting to see videos like these. I bought this game when it came out and gave up on it after about 20 hours since it was just too difficult. Inspired by this series I fired it up again, playing as Castile. Everything went fine for about 7 years then Aragon declared war, wiped out my entire army and fleet and stomped all over my territory. So I gave up and started again; this time I managed to ally with Portugal and Austria - thus avoiding an early declaration from Aragon and got to the point where I could try to boot the Moors out of Iberia. Unfortunately they had allied with Tunis and they wiped out my navy so I couldn't continue to prosecute the war and had only sufficient war score to claim 2 out of the three provinces. My religious strength wasn't high enough so I couldn't start converting the population and naturally they were threatening to rebel. I had therefore to keep my armies at full strength whilst trying to build up my navy. During this time I suffered some really crap events which wiped out my stability and my relations with the Papal states and lost me over 100 ducats. Just at the point where I had built up my navy again Aragon declared war; Austria decided to join in despite being my ally; Portugal refused to join me because it was at war with France. Aragon and Austria dumped over 40k troops on my territory, wiped out my army. Not seeing any way to recover from this I gave up once again. So just how do you guys that make these videos make these games look so easy?

[@johnnycolon8408]

Plenty of failures I am sure. This game really is hard. It takes a lot of tries and retries to finally get to the point where you can manage yourself well enough to survive and a little bit more. Even more attempts to get better at the game and actually make your country a very powerful one. Unless you are a natural genius at the game well that's a different story

[@scroogietw6878]

Philip Greig Maybe your difficulty is too high

[@HuntressMedia]

Reading the above basically reminds me of my experience with this "game" and leads me to wonder...how does this = fun? Especially with no real victory conditions or goals to start with - weee! can go on and on, aimlessly! Hmmmm... (I KNOW I KNOW, you make your OWN goals as you go....shhh!!) ALL that being said, quill definitely makes it seem amazing and rewarding...

[@jakobsoegaard1]

I mean...you could just cheat There is a button under the esc key, Press that...BOOM! Commands... Search up EUIV cmds Then, ohohohoho.

[@donkeymilkman8934]

I lost on the first day as the Ottoman empire by not knowing how to unpause the game. Your not the worst.

[@MrSneakyGunz]

Your enthusiasm is contagious Quill.

[@doublecrosserthunder]

Great tutorial! You always have good reasonings to do something and you explain it splendidly. It makes me more aware that there is always reasons for everything I do. I always thought I'm a slow tempo player but knowing that there's so much more to learn makes me think I really need to go much slower to absorb and study every interface and features in the game. You did a great a job explaining that and whats more excellent is you explain as you play which makes me more attached to the gameplay. Great job!

[@jamesbalestrino2670]

I was totally clueless playing this game until I started to watch your series of tutorials. Now I'm completely hooked on the game (and loving other paradox games as well). Great work and great explanation of everything you covered. Really grateful for all your work. Thanks again!

[@patricklenigan1650]

Hey! thanks for the tutorial! I can tell that this was all made before the game state switched to how it is when I bought the game (a week ago), but it has seriously helped me out for my EU4 Twitch stream!

[@rados5334]

Quill18! It is not Christmas but Easter! You are bombarding us with great videos all the time!

[@ViniciusJorgeMunhoz]

amazing tutorials. I watched some complete arumba series but I'm learning i'm learning a lot more here!

[@sdarkpaladin]

Shoutout to Arumba for politely asking paradox to add in the admin points counter at 3:00

[@tomaselizondo92]

Actually overextension doesn't really depend on how big you are. It's just 1% per development of the province before applying modifiers. So 100 uncored development is 100% overextension no matter if you are The Papal State or the Ottomans.

[@aarongorton1984]

no it not

[@Neptune9563]

with almost 1000 ours of experience this is still explaining some things i never cared about

[@aarongorton1984]

i have Victoria 2 experience and vic 2 is less complex than this game believe it or not vic 2 is best but both games are amazing im hooiked

[@ieuandeakin5012]

thank you so much for this series, i started grand statergies with CK2 and i found it easy ish, and EU4 is on sale on steam so i thought 'screw it ill buy it' and damn is it completely different, your tutorial series has helped me grasp the basics so far, even if i did goof up with alliances too early ;p

[@Azarif367]

Hey, quill. Thanks for the videos.

[@smiggy1968]

Good stuff Quill. Thanks. Keep up the good work.

[@battlemode]

I bought this a year ago and not touched it yet, but this tutorial was brilliant and I'm ready to get stuck in now :)

[@ThePolfAlmighty]

This series is great! Would be even better if it was more frequent.

[@castellante8160]

Hey, Quill. One thing, a double L in Spanish is pronounced like a y. Sevilla is pronounced like Suh-vee-uhhh. Not Sah-villa.

[@whicker7069]

so I am a huge hearts of iron player. I recently decided to try out EU4 and I was lost. This is definitely a great series to watch to learn how to play.

[@adrianatgaming8640]

thx quill i now formed spain integrated aragon and naples and have sizable colonies in south america

[@juaniev7990]

Im following along and my heir died in a random event now frace and Aragon might be fighting a succession war against me and it says I might be the lesser part of a personal union

[@xarmanhsh2981]

frace?

[@juaniev7990]

@@xarmanhsh2981 Yes Frace- you heard me

[@poilboiler]

Exploration is vastly better than Expansion for colonizing, you get two colonists instead of one but more importantly it uses diplo points instead of the much more valuable admin points.

[@TheHedzerG]

France got wrecked, maybe you can vassalize armaniac now, i believe you also get missions to continue the reconquista later to get provinces in northern Africa, might also be good to explain the increased coring cost there.

[@andrewokeefe408]

An attack in Brussels 💐 piece to the country, families, and Quill...

[@lukedeets5016]

at this point in the series I think I may be ready to play the game! haha

[@Bill_Garthright]

I bought this game a few years ago, when it went on sale. Never played it. (Well, I'd already owned EU3. Never played that, either.) Then the Conquest of Paradise DLC went on sale, so I bought that. _Still_ didn't play the game. Heh, heh. Finally, just recently, I decided to play it,... as the Iroquois in North America. I'm completely lost! But this tutorial has been a big help, even though the native societies in the Americas play somewhat differently. I only wish the fonts were bigger, because my eyes aren't that great. But yeah, I think I'm starting to figure it out. Thanks much!

[@Zimfab01]

+Bill Garthright I think there is a mod on steam which makes the fonts bigger. Just search for "Better UI" on the workshop.

[@Bill_Garthright]

Zimfab Hey, thanks! I'll check it out. Incidentally, playing the Iroquois has been a blast. I've had a great time. I didn't think I'd survive, but I've been lucky. I finally got westernized - and turned Catholic, which certainly caused a lot of problems - and I've got a big enough army to keep even European powers friendly. Nothing much has happened for awhile (it's the mid-1700's now), so I might start a new game. But this has been so much fun that it's going to be hard to find anything to match it, I think. Again, this tutorial has been great. It really helped.

[@beenladen4924]

I like that "give us all your gold and stop existing as a country" is a generous peace offer :D

[@flacsmada]

do you recommend harsh treatment to curve rebels while you core? Also, do you recommend increasing autonomy?

[@sherman128]

I'm preparing to play the game but I think I know what the technology discount was about. You said earlier that you'll get a penalty if you try to upgrade too early in history, I THINK the discount comes from being later than when it was developed in history? Someone let me know if i'm right haha

[@ParkerDaiGames]

I have taken over all of scotland as England however I am unable to annex them, why is this?

[@empressram217]

I thought for sure he would choose the religious tolerance option for stability points. I did not expect the Spanish Inquisition.

[@WolfgangBrozart]

So with unrest is it just advised to leave troops there and if they rebel smash them? I'm playing as Ottomans and am dealing with a few high percentage unrest provinces while trying to convert them since they were Orthodox before. I've cored everything and am working on conversion but it's taking forever with only one missionary. Their Autonomy is 75% already, would it be wise to just put it at 100% and let it cool off over time or just let them rebel and kill the rebel armies?

[@davidxg9774]

Or, you can give then more autonomy

[@cryctchr9717]

In my game Portugal my Ally took over half of Granada so it’s a 50 50 split and I can’t end the war, what should I do

[@aarongorton1984]

Victoria 2 trade is more complex as you have numbers for preduction most ppl auto it and forgert about it

[@KarhuGaming]

Any time I play Castille, I never vassalize Granada; only annexation. What would be the relative benefits of vassalization?

[@Ecdyson]

+Karhu Gaming You'd avoid the ADM cost of coring and, since Granada does not have increased coring cost, you could feed moroccan provinces to them, later force Morocco to give up its cores and integrate the land at no additional cost.

[@KarhuGaming]

Ecdyson Ah. I see. Thanks for that. It sounds like its gaming the system somewhat -- as opposed to any attempt at mirroring historical practice -- but I can see the benefits.

[@marcelobk1000]

+Karhu Gaming In this case, since you have claims on all their territory from the mission, the only benefit i see is using diplo instead of admin to get the cores. But vassalization is great when you don't have claims on all the territory for purposes of AE using conquest CB. Using this CB you get 75% AE on the territory you have claims, but 100% on everything else. If you vassalize, you get 75% of the AE of a annexation. It will act like you have claims on everything. It's a great way to reduce the AE you attain.

[@danjal87nl]

As a vassal they don't give overextention and if you integrate a vassal I do believe you don't have to core or something like that. So if you've been going heavy on the conquest path its occasionally better to spill out some vassals. Similarly if you're breaking up a larger country into smaller bits then you can create a vassal, subsequently slowly feed it bits in following wars and then integrate that vassal as a whole - which also ought to avoid some of the negative consequences of plain annex. I also believe vassalization affects aggressive expansion differently. Especially when you "free" a nation and make it your vassal. With the specific Granada/Castille situation you generally wouldn't run into that problem I'd imagine. But Quill is showing the general options for the mechanics. Not 'just' applied to a Castille game.

[@The-Seeker]

vassilizing allows you to force convert them without doing it yourself

[@yotsquidi]

I just reached this point in the game. While France in yours is getting smashed by England, in mine, they've just annexed Portugal...

[@schlaumensch]

I'm searching for a game like CIV6 or EU4 which is not too hard to get into. I have never played something like this and I would love to try something out, but I want to start with something relatively easy to learn... Any recommendations? Or should I try CIV / EU? And which one? Thanks guys :)

[@KaneDeitsch]

Obviously it's up to you but, speaking from experience, if you want to start playing grand strategy games I would suggest actually playing Civilisation 5 with all its DLC (Gods & Kings and Brave New World). Like most recently released Civilisation games, vanilla Civilisation 6 is lacking mechanically in some areas as well as issues with AI and balancing. Civilisation is easily the most popular grand strategy series in terms of amount of players because of its accessibility (Civ 5 I don't think has left the Top 10-15 concurrent player list for Steam since its release or something like that). With regard to EU4, there are a whole throng of similar games built on the same Clausewitz engine and published by Paradox (Crusader Kings and Hearts of Iron to name a couple). If your criteria is to find a game that is easier to get into, I would personally lean towards Civilisation rather than the former (note: I am well aware that the notion of 'easier to get into' is in some ways subjective but simply from a mechanical standpoint EU4 is far more complex as shown by Quill's videos). A personal favourite of mine are the Total War games made by the Creative Assembly. While they certainly don't possess the same level of intricacy on the campaign map with systems such as trading in EU4, it's the real-time battles that add a whole level of addiction. Their games are set in a wide variety of periods and their most recent release (Total War: Warhammer) is not necessarily the best game to introduce yourself to the series - Total War: Rome 2 still regularly has thousands of people playing it and it may be more appealing to play if you are not a fan of Warhammer and the like. Hope this helps.

[@nebojsakmezic9763]

I know I am little late to that reply but similar to this and far less complicated - Knights of Honor. Brilliant game. A bit to easy after a while but still brilliant

[@samuelwhite3173]

What do I do about losing Great Power status?

[@linusr5213]

Is it a good I idea to make your ruler a general if he has a heir and is military 6?

[@adrianatgaming8640]

Nope uwont like such a good king to die

[@DT-jr8uq]

21:22 scared the shit out of me I was on headphones

[@alexanderrutherford7021]

Just tried this in a game. Granada was allied to Tunis and Morocco. It started off well until the Moroccan navy destroyed mine and then landed a 15k stack which was then followed by another 10k stack sent by Tunis. I quit.

[@aarongorton1984]

its not too difficult once yo uwatch his videos youll be iotching t o playt on it with no sleep like i am i played 10 minutes on it but ive never played any eu game and IM HOOKED BUT I HAVE logged 1000 hours or more on Victoria 2 which i think is just as good fo a game there both identical games even ui is but both good games i love it

[@CommissarMitch]

I almost always gets Echonomic ideas no mater which civ I play as. Is that a bad strategy?

[@marcelobk1000]

+Mike Fluffgren Considering Admin points are the most precious one, you have to be careful with which admin idea group you pick. On my games I can only pick 1 admin idea group, normally for my 2nd or 3rd slot. Economic is a cover all, never weak, solution. It's not a bad strategy, but another admin idea group can be even better, depending on your nation. As Brandenburg, for example (my most played nation, by far) I struggle between picking Religious or Administrative, but never have even considered Economic. Brandenburg is a conquest heavy game, where stability or cheaper mercs and cores are way more valuable than money or development. It matters on the nation you are playing, but Economic is never a wrong pick, it may just not be the best one.

[@CommissarMitch]

Thank you for the advice. I will need to read on to the different ideas more and then make a better pick.

[@emmanuelrodrigues5046]

Hey everyone need some help with eu4 ! In my game with burgundy , i was stuck and scared to attack any countries around because of austria protectim them (i'm still new in the game) , so i was with the idea of attacking a countrie with weaker army , so i notice that novgorod was damaged because of the war against moscovie and take that chance and attacked novogorod , i move all my fleet with my soldier in it and land in novgorod attacking them with no casus belli , after some month i took all of is land , i am at 100% for the trade peace etc etc , but its mark that i cant take is land because i can't legitimate them ? Can someone explain me why i can't do that ? Its because its to far or an other reason ? do i need something special to take all is land ? Thx anyway :)

[@tristandevin3653]

You've got no claims on that land, so you can't get it

[@emmanuelrodrigues5046]

Yeah i understood after , that i needed land near novgorod to have a claim , but thx anyway ;)

[@aarongorton1984]

only difficult thing is is the confusion with trade but once used to it ull be ok

[@josephvalenti1508]

Is there any way to go beyond 400 years with a dlc or extension???

[@josephvalenti1508]

I want to buy the game but that’s the only thing keeping from buying

[@r1pperduck]

I've played Castile 3 times and always get wiped out by France :(

[@rockingFrosch]

I'm curious how many actual eu4 "newbies" are watching this. I'm getting the sensation that there aren't that many around. Even tho, to be fair this game is so complex you won't ever fully comprehend it. :D

[@MrBones301]

Hey true but HEY!

[@Sahuagin]

+wie Frosch I am definitely an EU noob. this is way more interesting than his other EU videos.

[@bobbatcher6021]

+Sahuagin That makes at least two of us EU noobs!

[@TheEarlGreyHot]

+Bob Batcher I have also just started trying play it so this is the most perfectly timed series ever.

[@armareum]

+wie Frosch There are dozens of us! Dozens!

[@Vearru]

10:54 Quill & Sans

[@derpper6173]

SOMEBODY ANSWER ME QUICK: IS THIS GAME WORTH BUYING EVEN THO THERE IS SO MANY DLCS NOW?? Thank you.

[@Bill_Garthright]

+Derpper Depends on what you like. Note that there are often _great_ sales on this game and all the DLCs. You can get it cheap if you wait for that. I'd put it on your wishlist at Steam and at GamersGate. With luck, you'll get notified when it goes on sale next.

[@snickle1980]

Yes, it's worth buying vanilla. The game is so dense...castille is the key to all of this.

[@uli9601]

So i was watching this since I’m new, France declared war right after I did the reconquista

[@Zamolxes77]

Damn, France really got its teeth kicked out, has less territory than during 1431.

[@billy_boi]

I got 0 - 0 - 0 King OMFG!!!! :(((

[@AbdulGoodLooks]

Enrique sucks . Recommended you make him a general hope he does then use administration power to regain stability

[@blazingpurple2130]

now i just gotta play and finally not be tempted to cheat the shit outta this! :)

[@kristss8534]

(V) ;,,; (V) Why Not Zoidberg?

[@austing1662]

(V) ;,,; (V) Why Not Zoidberg?

[@The_Paradox__]

Ok... pronounce Sevilla like Seveeya and Melilla like Meleeya

[@aarongorton1984]

WOW I LOVE THE FACT ai can creat there own country though sepretism i love the mechanics in this game with dlcs

[@aarongorton1984]

its boring playing wit heasy nations like castile i love beirng Poland Austria or some small place like brittanyt and building it up FEELS MORE SATISFYING WHEN YO UWIN but make sure you have art fo war rights of man and oen more dlc then ur good togo otherwise not as fun

[@Tetrix0]

You were not even using your missionairies.

[@aarongorton1984]

hooked hooked hooked but castile france ect FAR TOO EASY TO WIN evne tho theres no goals why i hate it Victoria 2 has goals and has GREAT POWER MECHANICS :) AND SECONDARY POWERS

[@adrianatgaming8640]

1453

[@jakobsoegaard1]

AdrianAtGaming Its going down. Im yelling timber!

[@dogbonetv4821]

after watching these vids i realized how way off base he is on alot of things. simply leaving troops on captured territory doesnt make unrest go down; on each of the armies, theres a button to click to make them quell unrest. also, if you drop troop maintenance cost to save gold dont forget to bring it back before you fight, otherwise you have zero moral and no matter how big your army is youre fucked.

[@lukakapanadze6179]

Have you even watched the videos? He actually mentioned the second point a few videos ago and the first point in this video.

[@rottle4879]

HISSSSSSSS

[@Lucip11]

7 years to take 3 provinces. War mechanics of this game is so bad. 30 years to fully govern it.

[@meap1022]

He's playing it safe, this is a beginner tutorial. I was able to take part of Aragon and all of Granada, in around 6 years. Coring took only 6 ish months then rebels got crushed in less than a year. Converting them is laughably easy . No way it would take more than 20 years to fully govern a new province, I have no idea what your talking about. The systems not perfect for sure, but no game is.

[@Bill_Garthright]

I bought this game a few years ago, when it went on sale. Never played it. (Well, I'd already owned EU3. Never played that, either.) Then the Conquest of Paradise DLC went on sale, so I bought that. _Still_ didn't play the game. Heh, heh. Finally, just recently, I decided to play it,... as the Iroquois in North America. I'm completely lost! But this tutorial has been a big help, even though the native societies in the Americas play somewhat differently. I only wish the fonts were bigger, because my eyes aren't that great. But yeah, I think I'm starting to figure it out. Thanks much!

[@Jackerco]

Why would you buy it if you dont plan on playing it

[@Jackerco]

and why did you buy the next game AND the DLCs if you were never gonna play it