EUROPE'S MOST CHALLENGING APPROACH | FORGET Innsbruck, Samos or Madeira: Fly to AMSTERDAM

[@4HolerPoler1]

Thank you so much your for kind comments. You did a far better job than I did Sir. We were in a BBJ2 (B737-800) and tankering fuel (Amsterdam’s fuel is expensive) so our approach speed was around 135 knots. This is only the second occasion I’ve circled the BBJ onto Runway 04 and to be honest, it’s much safer just to land on 36 Right and spend an extra 3 minutes taxiing. But not nearly as much fun and as challenging! Thank you for such a great channel. My very best Duncan aka 4HolerPoler1

[@A330Driver]

Thanks Duncan, it's much easier in the sim though. Thinking back to my time on the 737 I'm pretty sure if I had to do this for real it would not have been as flawless as it was here in the sim. The -800 can be a beast at times, especially at light weight. After covid I was quite happy that our passenger numbers increased quickly again and our planes got heavier again. Flies so much nicer at 60t than at 50! Agree on the fun and challenging part! Though I much prefer that in the sim than in real life. Give me a great visual at any time, but I'd rather do an ILS in CAVOK/Wind Calm conditions than a 30kt crosswind on a wet runway! Thanks again for your great video, without it I would never have believed it was even possible to do that in a 737!

[@holobolo1661]

"Because your engines and wingtips need to be separate from the ground." Always good advice 😂 Yet another cracking video, cheers mate

[@A330Driver]

😂😂😂

[@Hydrazine1000]

@@A330Driver Well, if an engine or winglet is ripped off, it _may_ technically still be separate from the ground. The parts may be _in contact_ with the ground, just lying on it, but separate in the sense that they are not mechanically attached to the ground. (Though if the winglet burried itself into the ground, it is no longer separate from the ground.) Fully pedantic: It would be more accurate to state that it is frowned upon to let the ground separate the engines and wingtips from the aircraft.

[@LuxPlanes]

Wow! I never imagined something like this would be done in the 737 either! Very cool video :)

[@jwenting]

I've seen it done by 767s and 777s coming in for maintenance.

[@spritnemo8785]

I’ve worked at the hangar along the threshold of 36R and can definitely confirm that this is done quite regularly.

[@dwoodkamp4550]

I live near Schiphol but i never seen it before. I know the hangars at 36 it must be a weird thing to see a plane approaching off the centerline at 36? It's almost approaching towards the hangar?😅

[@CrapUsername62944]

I’ve flown it myself quite a few times in biz jets. It’s convenient for the VIP terminal when the airport is using the northerly runways. It saves many precious minutes. And great fun! 😉

[@Deyan_B_Travels]

You've flown this approach better than the pilot in the real-life video! Congrats and thank you!

[@A330Driver]

haha, flying in flight sim is certainly easier than flying in real life. No multi million dollar equipment below you, no passengers behind you. And a lot less mechanical turbulence.

[@viktorekman863]

​@benjamintoft7947he delet the comment, what did he say?

[@niklaspilot]

I've done this approach, a lot of fun actually! Really something you don't do often as a pilot outside of Business Aviation

[@sergiocivetta2630]

Thanks!

[@JohannesFabender]

But this not a published standard procedure at AMS. Like the FRA runway swing on final approach only suitable for LH as the home base carrier. The former Kai Tak HKG IGS guided final Approach from the south is similar, end 1998. It was only CPT‘s duty to perform the final left turn at 500 feet AGL. There was also a displaced thresh hold on RWY 13. It was the so called checker bord Approach and also challenging for many airlines, gusty crosswind from the mountains.

[@A330Driver]

What makes you think the visual swing over at FRA is only for LH? I've already flown it on at least two other airlines and seen even more so it. Just like the above is flown by many different operators and not just homebase carriers.

[@yta7777777]

Thank you Emi! I like this type of video the best😊 I'm very thankful for the time and effort you put into your channel. The quality is top notch. Thanks again!

[@vanguard4283]

Very nice video NG driver and you are quite right about how challenging this approach is. For what it's worth in the business/corporate aviation a lot of the times they don't land with an affective standard fuel as they cost affectively do in the airline industry, but usually with 90 mins of extra flying time on top of standard. You can even see it on the BBJ video you linked where the wing tanks are still close to full and thus the Vref appropriately so is higher at 133. It makes a lot of difference in handling. Thx for the video Captain.

[@A330Driver]

Indeed, though I doubt you'll ever get me away from the "minimum fuel anyone?" :D

[@vanguard4283]

Amazing comment 😂 who knows?! maybe there is a hidden Jet jockey within the NG Driver, what's an extra title next for the NG/A Driver. 😏

[@hurrapelle6508]

Have a look at circling 29 ENAT. Usually the wind is maybe 30 knots from the west during the maneuver, otherwise we would land tailwind on 11. Especially interesting in winter with snow and reduced vis. ILS 36 circling 18 ENTC also a good one.

[@The_Dutch_Pancake]

Great video. I have seen big planes making this manoeuvre a few times, also from the other side of the runway. But never knew why they did that, now I know. Thanks👍

[@ghl3488]

I had a go at the R24 approach from R27 in the 747 full motion sim at Cardiff when I booked 2 hours in it. I made it with some help but I think I would have made the evening news. My sim instructor said the accident was survivable, what a cheek.

[@Tiger313NL]

There is footage floating around here on KZbin somewhere, of a 747 freighter flying into Amsterdam on the on approach to runway 27, sidestepping to runway 24. That way, the freighter needs much less time to taxi to the cargo handling apron. ATC usually asks pilots beforehand if the pilots are okay with that procedure. Some are, some aren't. Usually the pilots who fly there regularly, are well known with it. The trick is to stay above the glide slope for the first runway, then make a turn to the glide slope for the second one.

[@2684dennis]

i dit it yesterday and today with a 747, also 36r approach and visual landing on 4, both succes landing.

[@GulliNL]

I used to work in the office of Hangar 11 with a view on the very end of runway 04. In my first week I had no idea it was a live runway (most hangars there are for maintenance) and suddenly a small business jet taking off came screaming past my window with quite a steep bank angle on it. Gave me a hell of a fright, and my colleagues were laughing their @sses off. Good times, cool place to work.

[@CrapUsername62944]

I’ve flown it myself quite a few times in biz jets. It’s convenient for the VIP terminal when the airport is using the northerly runways. It saves many precious minutes. And great fun! 😉

[@tshuseppegarcia3252]

very nice video but i think there is a more challenging approach in switzerland for samaden airport (LSZS) would be a nice video if you try to land there

[@peterjongen7174]

At strong winds from the SW there is an other approach at EHAM. RW24 starting via ILS 27 and then circle to land at RW24.

[@Iamwatchingyou75]

There is also the circle to land to rwy 24/22 out of ILS 27. Not sure how hight the break off is, but KLM Embrears really like the break to 24 if available because it greatly reduces the taxi. Also ILS 22, circle to land 24 is done sometimes during heavy winds Their is a RNAV 24 available, but the main landing rwy will be 22 during typical storms in Amsterdam. The occasional widebody that can’t land on 22 will do the 22->24 circle to land.

[@jwenting]

There is also the transition of the ILS27 to the visual 24 and visual 22 (both can be granted, visual 24 for cargo aircraft, visual 22 to the GA and maintenance aprons).

[@BigJetTV]

What a great simulation 👍🏻 I’ve seen/filmed the approach from the other end into 22, seems a slightly lesser turn? But that approach into 04 is crazy 😮 thanks for sharing 🙏🏻

[@christopherstolzke1931]

Made the same approach yesterday, but in the opposite direction. Approaching RWY27 and then turn on RWY22, very challenging but made it smoothly on the ground! :D

[@A330Driver]

The most exciting thing of the 27/22 swingover is that it's actually flown by 747s as well! Purely incredible!

[@jwenting]

@@A330Drivernot seen it done by 747s, they do do the 27-24 transition when going to the cargo terminal. Have seen it done by 767s and the occasional 777 though.

[@MrTchou]

Other interesting and difficult approaches are the RWY 23 approaches into LDSP (Split, Croatia) on a left turn you need to keep the bank angle into parameters, and not overshooting the path, while keeping speed and descent stable and it’s a visual.

[@jedrinck]

This is my favourite approach, I've flown it maybe 6-8 times total in the Lear 60 and Phenom 300 in the last 10 years. No offset to the left, just turn at the right time, aim for the threshold of 04 and roll out pretty much as you touch down. Seems so wrong and feels so right!😀 Admittedly easier to do when you don't have to worry about engine strikes.

[@dwoodkamp4550]

I live near Schiphol and these landings on 04 are very very rare because the wind at Schiphol is for 95% coming from the west almost all business jets landing on 22 and sometimes on 27. But very nice video especially that live one never seen it before.👍

[@erich930]

In my instrument training, circling approaches were always fun! It's a lot easier to do circling approaches in a tiny little Piper Warrior than in a 737 I'd imagine.

[@ridefast0]

Reminded me of the old Hong Kong dog-leg approach into Kai Tak! As carried out by every commercial flight for decades. I rode in a BA flight with a go-around, just to maximize the fun.

[@CarsonCrist5]

I’m gonna have to try this one! Great video as usual!

[@A330Driver]

Hope you enjoy it!

[@jaap82]

In this case, you might like this 747 landing on Amsterdam as well. Challenge for this video: guess the runway between 9:16 and 9:45 kzbin.info/www/bejne/fYPXiIGQrMx6pJosi=kyWu5X7ppl4m-ZJo

[@bertoverweel6588]

There is a video on KZbin of a 747 Martinair Cargo appr rwy 27 and then land on rwy 24 at EHAM. Great landing.

[@Jorge-jc9td]

Great video, I recommend you to try landing Santos-dumont runway 02R in Rio, since I discovered that airport I dont stop flying there...

[@A330Driver]

I already did and it's a great approach indeed 😄 kzbin.info/www/bejne/g3zGpnqqrbiagtksi=3pgBOVCz_S-l64rk

[@vincenthuying98]

What’s interesting is that this runway 04 for years didn’t show up in the flight contours of AMS. Of the ones I’ve recently seen, only the northern approach to the ‘oostbaan’ shows up. The southern approach is kind of footnoted in the sidelines of the aalsmeerbaan. Of course the construction of the aalsmeerbaan and the kaagbaan interfered with the original southern approach of the oostbaan. For years the official story has been that this approach was abandoned. Well, these videos simply show how AMS still keeps back info on the flight paths they allow. This whilst their own story is that the southern 04 approach was abandoned for safety reasons. Airports and safety apparently still are a thing to work on. Cheerio

[@MatthewKiff]

You should look at the approach to runway 25 at Paris Le Bourget. You fly the ILS for 27 down to about 2 miles and then a slight right followed by right left turn to put it down on 25 without flying overhead De Gaulle.

[@csyoutubeacc]

Nicely done mate

[@hajow9303]

I've seen a 27 turn to 24 landing at AMS as well. With a 747 no less.

[@guysterges1382]

switch from 27 to 24 is done regularly by the 747F, because the cargo-ramps are situated at the end of runway 24.

[@MathijsKok]

The DC3 that was based at EHAM used to do this all the time. Incredible sight to see.

[@A330Driver]

Indeed! Now on the opposite side from 27 onto 22 they fly 747's. Surely gonna be a topic as well!

[@heffron91]

@@A330Driver If 747's would circle (doesn't happen too often), they would most likely circle from 27 to 24, not to 22. Here's a video; kzbin.info/www/bejne/fYPXiIGQrMx6pJo. 747's do land on 22 but in most cases that would be due to 22 being main landing runway and then they'd come in on the ILS 22.

[@LennardA320]

You have just another amazing Approach just switching runways at the end. You Fly ILS RNW27 and if you are somewhat in front of it you deviate to the left to land at RNW24 There is a video from mightymkl (Rare circling to land approach for runway 24 at Amsterdam Airport Schiphol.) EHAM AMS

[@jip5873]

Great job, captain! There is also a YT-video from a KLM/Martinair cargo 747 circling from 27 to 24. Exciting to watch.

[@A330Driver]

27 onto 24 is one thing, I know at least one 747 pilot who did 27 onto 22. THAT is a challenge! And will surely be the topic of another video!

[@VinDieselS70]

My paternal grandmother's dad, Adrian van Hengel, crashed with his two engined private plane at approach to Schiphol after a flight from Austria together with Goodwin Von Brunowski in 1936.

[@Danno-df9hq]

6:38 - "Your engines and wingtips need to be seperated from the ground". If this isn't a great line for merch than what is? :D

[@kiereluurs1243]

Crazy. 'What could possibly go wrong?' As a Dutch I didn't know our national airport had created this hazard.

[@Rhinozherous]

Awesome! EHAM is such an incredible airport!

[@jonneexplorer]

Damn! I need to try this! I recently got a volunteer job at Aviodrome, the primary aviation museum here in the Netherlandfs, I will be joining their sim team! We havea simulator that dates back to the 50s and is currently configured to simulate the 737. Might make for a nice challenging approach to give pilot visitors, or even our primary training pilot who flew for KLM!

[@A330Driver]

I flew that sim earlier this year when I visited the aviodrome. Personally I would have prefered it to be kept in the DC-4 configuration (or whatever it was beforehand), but certainly it's an experience!

[@Ztbmrc1]

Cool approach. I know they regularly fly, under heave stormy conditions, with wind from the west, the ils rwy 27 followed by a circling to rwy 24. There they have a bit more space to perform the left turn to rwy 24. I am going to watch the video of the real thing now!

[@BillySugger1965]

That’s insane!

[@thealmightysnark5878]

I'll have to pay some attention to the business jets next time I work on the M-buffer(next to RWY04). Never noticed this before!

[@TobiasLauner]

I have done that exact approach several times in real life 😃👍🏻 Same with ILS 27, swing on RWY 22. This is even harder.

[@FlyFromHome]

That looks nuts! Nicely flown though, pretty sure I’d have ended up on the grass 😅

[@jakobnrlem4239]

I have flown that approach a few times.. And I love it. I do however think Innsbruck, Sion, mostar, narsarsuaq or vagar is more challenging 🤗

[@rtbrtb_dutchy4183]

Circling minimums are around 900 feet. I fly BBJs, but never flown this approach, but I would break off much sooner and swing out to the left first. 🤷🏻‍♂️ But even by waiting that long, I still don’t see this as being a difficult approach. Come fly with me on our trips, I can show you some much harder approaches than this.

[@ALT326]

There is also a same approach on runway 27 and then swing to land on 24

[@AVIATIONSOUNDEXPERT]

Aircraft was a 737-800BBJ2, N737M of EIE Eagle Inc, which was delivered in April 2002. @Emanuel Why dont you make just a normal approach to Rwy04? Would it be helpful to create a waypoint for extended centerline? You said that the EGPWS would possibly trigger. Is it not recommended to inhibit the terrain warning?

[@andreaferrarini5210]

Have you already given a go at Reggio Calabria (LICR). Very challenging approach with manouvring close to the ground, and is actually flown in real life regularly (mostly as a circling, though an NDB procedural approach exists which is rather fun!)

[@SwedroneAerial]

Tried it in x-plane from Hamburg with an A330 big fail 🤭 Ended up on the highway after excursed rwy 4 at the end😳 To hot and high

[@PluckyUnderdog]

Well, it's challenging as it's so bloody busy (I've flown in and out a few times on vatsim since buying the excellent scenery) but I still think Innsbruck is a lot more challenging, personally. To be fair though, this approach did look pretty challenging.

[@LePerlashez]

This looks very similiar to rwy 21 approach in Nantes LFRS.

[@leef9242]

You should try KCRW-definitely not the most challenging but it can be a little difficult for larger aircraft

[@Photoshopmanipulator]

I cannot hear reverse engine thrust in PMDG 737 sound in msfs 2020

[@tontesligte293]

What about ams approach 27 with break off visual to land 24 with 747-800 cargo, happens regularly

[@A330Driver]

Like this one? kzbin.info/www/bejne/fJK2Z2qqbtiSrtksi=a-L5WRL3lmGWP6Jp

[@alistair676]

This puts taking off in a C172 from rwy 22 in a different perspective... :D

[@gummelspak]

You should try Isafjördur (IFJ/BIIS) in Iceland if you think this is challenging.But of course that is done on the Q200.

[@PRIME3170]

Sweet video!

[@ttvFairPlayerPL]

LOL I have never seen such a things before. This should be prohibited :D, Imagine to do something like this in windy conditions or reduced visibility. It is sick :D And this tuchdown zone is sooo short, there is no space to make many corrections, it is like be or not to be :) Greetings from Flight Sim Enthusiast.

[@VulcanOnWheels]

Thank you for showing us this approach. Your English is excellent, but I suggest you look into the pronunciation of "occurred".

[@JackJohnson-cm6jk]

Afair they also do 27 24 swings for Airliners. I think i saw an KLM Ejet do this on FR24 a while ago.

[@A330Driver]

27 onto 24 isn't quite the same though, you're manouvering MUCH higher. I just learned they do 27 onto 22 occasionally though, THAT is a great one as well! Coming tomorrow on the channel!

[@firefox3187]

Leeds Bradford’s crosswind in bad weather is fun too😅

[@A330Driver]

You bet so! Bristol is also a blast in stormy conditions (pun intended)!

[@boojryt]

That landing was butterrrrrr

[@brianprice7812]

Nice! I would argue that the circle to land DME West RW08 at LOWI is much, much more difficult to execute. You did a video on that as well. Arriving from the south one must execute a holding pattern to re-orient to the west. Then follow the opposite runway ILS down until DME shows 4.2 nm to landing, then break to the left and just before you hit the Alps hang a right. Then a few seconds later take over and hand fly a 180 descending turn, with little visibility of the runway. Then line up and land.

[@semaex]

exactly. Circle to Land in Amsterdam is a piece of cake against LOWI circle to land in IFR.

[@meneurdujeu]

Try Bergamo with wind over the Alps on way in

[@jenswaldram5955]

You’d probably be surprised they also do this a lot to runway 22 from runway 27. You need to get really low below the glide and then do an even sharper turn. Haven’t seen it but there’s probably evidence from that as well.

[@A330Driver]

Indeed I was! Talked to a guy who flew the 747 and did that a few times. Video coming up for sure!

[@nDrewbeatz]

Absolutely amazing! Can you do a Salzburg visual runway 33 please?

[@A330Driver]

Hi, I did that in a Livestream already, though not 100% sure which one. Maybe try the search function and look for Salzburg on my channel, I'm sure you'll find it.

[@nDrewbeatz]

@@A330Driver aww didn’t know that. Will do, as I find all your videos really helpful and very informative. Thank you!

[@larsw8776]

Now, I have to ask why you would get fired for doing this approach, if the controller asks you to do it? There are circling approaches which require a hand-flown segment with 180° turns which to me, as a layman, look far more difficult to do. For example, Innsbruck rwy 08, or Calvi rwy 36. Calvi is extremely challenging.

[@A330Driver]

Lowest altitude to the completly established in a circling is 300ft. That includes being on centerline and glide. Starting one at 200ft would be a gross violation. Now these are legal limits for airliner operation, for private jet operations limits are lower, that's why they can do it. If ATC asks you to do something or not does not really matter, they can ask you to fly into a mountain, you'd still not do it. Ultimately it's *your* responsibility as PIC to ensure safe flight, not ATCs.

[@larsw8776]

@@A330Driver OK, I see. Thanks for the new information. So the minimum altitude for the rwy 25C swing in Frankfurt, as an example, would be also 300 ft to be established on 25C, or rather 500ft, like for a visual approach?

[@OlesonMD]

I spent 20 years flying approaches to AMS, in B-767’s and B-777’s. Nothing difficult here at all.

[@evertdeboer]

As I remember it (till 2009: EHAM was my home base flying Dassault Falcons) you could request the circling, but it was not mandatory. 🙂

[@A330Driver]

I guess you just used it as a time saver then? Were there any delays involved if you asked for the full procedure for runway 04?

[@evertdeboer]

@@A330Driver Yes, as a time saver. Our passengers were usually not the most patient. 😊 I don't remember ever to have used the full 04 approach. The 22 however we flew frequently. What also happened was that we were cleared for 27 and requested a circling (comparable to the one you demonstrated) to 22.

[@AudieHolland]

However, the Innsbruck Landing Challenge in Flight Simulator involves a 747. When in reality, only smaller planes may land there.

[@A330Driver]

You could of course also take your AN235 into Helgoland, what kind of a challenge though would be!

[@Markenature]

The approaching is so beautiful

[@A330Driver]

And a heck of a lot of fun to fly!

[@OpinionatedHuman]

I bet that must look as amazing seen from the ground

[@A330Driver]

You bet so! Must be incredible indeed!

[@borsi99]

Dear Emmanuel you show again what professional pilot you are👍🏼 Perfect landing; congratulations. I always wonder how you can steer your aircraft so fine and precise! As you have told us in an earlier video all your sensitivity settings for your yoke all originally set which means by default with no changes. I did it the same way on my yoke but on short final when landing in one of my pmdg 737s I never can move my yoke so precisely as you do. That means the nose goes too much up or down.. Is there a „secret“ behind to do this like a professional..😅? I try and try but… Thank you for your wonderful and so much interesting videos! Al the best to you. Boris 🇨🇭 P.S.: I use the boeing style thrustmaster yoke I think like you do.

[@AudieHolland]

I have a similar issue when trying to land the Superhornet onto a carrier. My workaround is to zoom in slightly, which gives me more sensitive controls for the moment.

[@yams900]

I will try in DC-6 ! It doesn’t look too hard, but I’m sure I’ll regret saying that :) Danke !

[@A330Driver]

Must be FUN in the DC-6! I got to give that a try as well!

[@HerbertTowers]

Try dealing with any American Airbase in Europe when their ATC folk have more than one aircraft to deal with. Even more difficult is getting away and getting them to co-ordinate with civilian ATC agencies.

[@cheukyinho1204]

Does anyone get some Kai Tak vibes on this approach?(Same turn b4 touchdown,same low flying above ground)

[@ulfsas]

Most of Norway is much more challenging. Like circling in Alta. They have mountains. Amsterdam is easy compared. A an airline pilot we could also have flown this if we needed without complaints from the airline.

[@flare242]

This is an interesting one. Are there specific reasons for WHY would someone do this approach IRL in the first place, instead of just landing on 36R? Just traffic?

[@A330Driver]

Saving lots of taxi time as 04/22 are much closer to the general aviation apron and the maintenance facilities.

[@umi3017]

While the turn start at around 200', shouldn't you still use 890' cycling minimal as per regulation?

[@flying-squirrel-SK]

This is quite crazy manoeuvring for a big jet!

[@A330Driver]

Indeed it is!

[@dragoclarke9497]

I would not have wanted to be the first 737 trying that!

[@Jessie-Z90]

Please also look into EHAM ILS 27 break 24 or 22 for GA

[@A330Driver]

Coming up over the next couple of days. Did you know they even flew the clrcling onto 22 with the 747? Really impressive!

[@schweinsteigerbastian4371]

I’m a little confused about the landing minimum for such kind of approach procedures.Can we release the flight base on this kind of procedures?And if we do so ,which minimum we should use?The circling minimum on the ILS charts of R36R?

[@joanllorachferrando9276]

I'm no expert but since this ends in you doing a visual manouvre for the other runway, I reckon the Circling mininimums should be used for this approach.

[@RuTaill]

Thank you for this interesting tutorial! Why don’t pilots/ground crew directly attach the GPU without using the APU and then switching off the remaining engine? Is it because of the danger of engine suction in the vicinity of people?

I was not aware of this cool landing, sure must try it in the simulator at some point. However, i still think Madeira is more challenging.

[@A330Driver]

Why so? You got much more room for manouvering at Madeira as you're much higher above the ground.

Indeed. However it's a much longer turn with more room to make a mistake. With mountains to crash against if you go wide. Here we have the runway in sight the whole time and we start the approach stabilized on an ILS until the last moment. And the often windy conditions at Madeira make it even harder as plenty of videos on KZbin can confirm. Just my opinion though.

[@kingofsimulators3242]

I think the circle to land app into rwy 36 in Calvi is the hardest approach I have ever seen in europe so far. Here is a link and you could try in one of your future videos: kzbin.info/www/bejne/ip-QgpSZhamZfJo But this one in Amsterdam looks also fun

[@Manuel-9-]

I was about to mention the same one, but this one in Ams is insane

[@A330Driver]

Nah, look at how high he still is when he's stable on final! Just joking, it's an awesome approach indeed, but nothing beats just how low you got to manouver on this one here at AMS. Stay tuned for tomorrows video by the way, they do the same on the opposite site and they do that even with 747s!

[@Manuel-9-]

@@A330Drivertry it, Calvi is insane, you are extremely unstable on final. Captain Joe has a very informative video flying there. But you are right, this video, and I’ve watched the real life one straight after yours, is absolutely insane. I wonder how it is in real life to play with the throttle in an approach as this one, given that turning so low should bring some funky ground effects, right? I look forward to your video tomorrow!

[@Clarence_Oddbody]

Have you flown into San Diego?

[@A330Driver]

No, I haven't.

[@737CargoGuy]

Well if you fly that approach like every other month the Challenge goes away quite qickly haha.

[@kinglun99]

I would love to see an approach for skps

[@blancfilms]

Dutch Kai Tak

[@DirtyRocha]

Nice video, but definitely nothing challenging about this, I'd stick to Innsbruck, Samos or Madeira as real challenges in Europe. You want a more complex thing?, there was a very specific and special approach for the DC-8 at Tijuana, Mexico in the 1960's, which involved VERY tight turns in final for RWY 27, also the adding the restriction of having the physical US border on the right side.

[@A330Driver]

"Nothing challenging"? About how close to the ground can you get for your manouvering? Innsbruck, Samos, Madeira all manouver MUCH higher above the ground, much more room for error.

[@DirtyRocha]

@@A330Driver I get your point, but you are on "flat ground" mate, for example that other approach I mentioned in Tijuana you do have to remain 1000 AGL around the final 3rd of the circling @ 170KTS and flaps 35 before touching down, however...... you have hills and mountains around you and as I said, on top of that NOT leaping into US airspace inadvertently

[@mcshiggitypilot5901]

Looks like fun!

[@emaniemporio2071]

Hey Emanuel. Which software do you use for Recording? Regards

[@A330Driver]

Hi, I'm using streamlabs for everything, recording normal videos and streaming.

[@tontesligte293]

Nice one