Europeans On Ice! 2018 Porsche Macan vs Alfa Romeo Stelvio Snowy Review

( www.TFLcar.com ) What's a better Ski car? Is it the 2018 Porsche Macan or the Alfa Romeo Stelvio? Watch this video comparison review to find out.
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[@TFLcar]

Thanks for watching. You can also see Nathan review the new Acura NSX on snow here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/rYbccpynotiZfqs

[@prisca6216]

Is there a review on the range rover

[@davidebonannini640]

Get a Quadrifoglio and you can disable whatever you want. I think Alfa should make a version to fill the gap between 280hp and 510hp though.

[@henrychen8067]

alfa doesn't have a real good v6, so they can't. (QV has a Ferrari engine)

[@arrugginiscono]

Alfa Romeo could use Maserati V6 engines, available with powers between 350 and 450 horsepower.

[@dinopappous6639]

@@henrychen8067 ...and that's a bad thing ? Porsche = Audi....you like that better ?

[@miks564]

@@henrychen8067 It's the opposite, they have such a good V6 engine, that they're competing already in the top end. :) Compare it to the Macan. In this video we've a Macan S with a 3.0 V6 with 350HP The Macan Turbo has a 2.9 V6 just like the Stelvio Q, but with 450HP. But as you say, one is a Ferrari (F154 variant) engine. The other an Audi TSFI engine from the RS4 / RS5 models.

[@La-yt1wr]

@@henrychen8067 They could've used the base V6 from Maserati, but at that point that probably would've affected sales of the Levante & Levante S.

[@meloc4036]

You can turn traction control off in the twin turbo V6 Stelvio Quadrifoglio which is a direct competitor to the Macan tested in this video...

[@uby80]

a wrong video comparison for many reasons: 2.0 liters vs. 3.0 liters 280 hp vs 400 hp Did you want to do a race or take a test in the snow? because it is not understood You complained that Alfa did not detach the traction control, why? If I'm on the snow I need all the help systems!! or not?

[@per6605]

NO!!! If you are on snow, you need to be able to disengage the traction control. Otherwise, the TC will throttle the engine, the wheels will not spin and move loose snow away, and the car that won't move out of its way. You're stuck. Trust me, it is no fun at all being stuck in the middle of nowhere when it's -15°, because some idiot car manufacturer decided that the TC should not be allowed to disengage "for safety reasons". What safety? How is it possibly "safe" to have a car that refuses to move?

[@shokkatoammerda]

I really love the Stelvio!

[@gbrianjohnson]

My only comment is that you are comparing a 2.0 Turbo to a Twin Turbo V6. Not exactly a fair competition don’t you think?

[@AbcD-td4ml]

Brian Johnson it’s not like there was a race! If it had a bigger engine it would not change anything. Just another suv like all the others. If you like handling quality and fun. And getting a good price after a few years, the macan is the better option. Even with a two liter engine.

[@TomazHilton]

But Still, hes complaining that a Standard Stelvio dont have a TC off switch.... which it shouldn't being a standard Trim. where as the Porsche Macan Tested is of the GTS version (rated at 400hp vs 250 for the regular version) is the Performance Model which Performance Trims will always have a Off Switch or a Mode where it makes TC less sensitive. THATS the problem with this video.

[@665Thunder]

great point, with a fairer comparison of the GTS vs the Quadrifoglio the Macan would stand no chance

[@AbcD-td4ml]

665Thunder Ha Ha Ha litle frusty? The Macan turbo ! Wil kick the ASS of the Mazda with alfa logo. There is No better suv than the macan. Maybe not in hp but for sure in cornering and handling. Maybe look a few reviews?

[@TomazHilton]

Dude..... This "Mazda with a Alfa Logo" Set the Record for SUV's on the Ring., Lets see them Compare the Standard 252hp Macan vs the 290hp Stevlio and see what happens

[@owobis]

In February 16, 2012 Porsche announced the final name for the car to be Macan, an Indonesian word for tiger. However, the pronunciation of the "C" in Macan, is like "ch" as in "Choice" or "Chips"; Not like "k" as in "Cool" or "Come". Because if the C is pronounced like K, "Makan", then the meaning in Indonesian language becomes "To eat". Totally different meaning. Just FYI.

[@Ingefurly]

There is a hidden procedure for disabling all traction controls in the Stelvio. The QV 510 HP version has the Race Mode that disables the controls quite completely. In the other versions you have to do a trick disconnecting the battery. Well... in a comparative test with both cars with totally disabled controls, you could see with your eyes what a perfect 50/50 weight balancing, a patented suspension design and the Giorgio platform can do...

[@denalisiomontpellier4064]

Stelvio Qv is not 50/50 weight distribution, has been tested by everyone at 53/47...usual FCA unreliable lies

[@Ingefurly]

@@denalisiomontpellier4064 the small difference is due to the Q4, with the motorized clutch and differential on the front axle. The Q2 and RWD versions are 50/50. Anyway, you should hat off in front of an Alfa Romeo.

[@martingunawan1590]

Italian vs German on ice. Great video!

[@Schcarraffone]

Martin Gunawan yes like comparing monica bellucci and FRAU MERKEL OR FRAU BLUECHER OF "FRANKENSTEIN JUNIOR" ...

[@Mamo878]

Macan GTS: from $69k Stelvio: from $42k So there's that.

[@shotokanslammer1]

Mamo the Stelvio also comes with Fiat quality / reliability...

[@dinopappous6639]

@@shotokanslammer1 .....AHAHAAAHAHAHAHAHHA...PORSCHE = VW RELIABILITY !!! HILARIOUS...watch this kzbin.info/www/bejne/joPGoXVqqc6SoNE

[@dinopappous6639]

@Ethan Pae HAHAHAHAHAHAHA DOUSCHY DOUCHERSON !!!!! kzbin.info/www/bejne/joPGoXVqqc6SoNE

[@dinopappous6639]

@@shotokanslammer1 SHOWS what you know about the GIORGIO PLATFORM !!! STELVIO and GIULIA designed from the GROUND UP NEW BY FERRARI SKUNKWORKS TEAM.... Not VW GOOBERS !!!!! Drink the German Kool Aid SUCKER !!!!

[@prisca6216]

@@dinopappous6639 did you even watch the video? Smfh

[@danielrico3006]

Where is AR Stelvio QV?

[@sparklander]

Glad you were able to drive a variety of cars. Enjoy your videos!!

[@albertoarcudi8431]

Alfa Romeo Stelvio

[@MrEugenio1994]

It would have been interesting to listen which one was faster AND safer to drive in that same circuit.

[@MrEugenio1994]

you can't turn the stability control off on snowy street unless you want to crash.

[@AbcD-td4ml]

Eugenio A 🤪

[@knightrider697]

Why didn't you pick the Quadrifoglio Verde Stelvio (2.9V6 TwinTurbo, 510HP, 600Nm, race mode)? *This comparison is as serious as Woody Allen's comedies are.*

[@slopetechno]

Thanks for this unusual and super valuable content! This makes the purchase decision for me, finding out I would not be able to turn off traction control in the 4 cylinder stelvio. I'm shopping the used market, and the Quadrifoglio Stelvio (which Davide B. says you can "disable whatever you want" in) is out of budget.

[@heartmommyinpa]

I think the Stelvio is an awesome looking car.

[@teerexness]

We've had one since 2019 and I can't recommend it highly enough. Beautiful to look at, inside and out, and amazing performance for an SUV. I'm sure that the QV version is a hoot, but you don't need that in the real world. The Q4 version is very quick. Also, dependability has been excellent after ditching the well-known problematic OEM battery. They've probably eliminated that issue by now anyway. It's also a great value compared to other European choices.

[@soiceyboy33]

We know whos been watching the Grand Tour recently !

[@ferrari466]

You can take off the traction control on the board computer easy on the stelvio ........... guys

[@MrEugenio1994]

I don't think so. Other journalists complained too. Although I believe the intervention parameters vary for each driving mode.

[@665Thunder]

forums or a willing to talk mechanic can help you... ;)

[@marremane]

they can't cuz they where too poor/lazy to get the Quadrifoglio version witch would actually be a fair comparison

[@fartman10284]

Making the Italian snow tires work really hard

[@k.r.v.4219]

Nathan!!! It’s called DYNAMIC MODE!! You of all people should be able to dial that in!!! What do you do during the informative sessions!!??

[@NathanDAdlen]

K. R. V. Nope. We were in EVERY SINGLE mode and even the Alfa rep said there is no way to fully defeat it.

[@k.r.v.4219]

nathan adlen nope there is no dynamic mode, or no you did not use it? The idea is not to defeat it, but use the dynamic mode to get the most out of all driving aspects.

[@NathanDAdlen]

Nope - you cannot deactivate the TC system in either of the three (dynamic, normal, advanced efficiency) modes. I tried every mode, every permutation of the modes using different types of driving inputs - it never allowed sliding.

[@NathanDAdlen]

Why watch then?

[@NathanDAdlen]

So are you. Goodbye

[@k.r.v.4219]

Ok now I’m waiting to see the Ferrari developed V6 Alfa Stelvio go up against the Mecan Turbo. That would be a true comparison!! But I’d be very happy with the Stelvio Turbo 4. Of which I’ll be seriously looking into in the near future. We need to wait till the new house is finished and all settled in, before I treat myself to a new Vehicle. Still not sure what I want to spend my 40k+ on, a nice SUV Like s Stelvio to an R/T Durango, or a Challenger R/T Scat Pack or Charger 392!

[@mattt9184]

K. R. V. It depends if your looking for the brand name or not. I think the R/T Durango is one hell of an suv ( I own one) but it’s not very flashy.

[@665Thunder]

I guess the best way woud be to test drive, Stelvio will have the best drive feel and the others the practicality... Alfa is coming with a bigger SUV only in the next couple of years

[@chrisc2184]

K. R. V. Don't think 40k will buy the turbo or the Stelvio but you will not be disappointed which ever one you get

[@sotirisbakaimis3276]

unfair. You put in the same phase a 2.0 l engine & 3.0 l twin turbo???????

[@philtripe]

when is it a good idea to turn off traction control in real life? they should call it the "hold my beer" button...the only place you could ever use it is in a snowy, empty parking lot

[@andreataccani5286]

stickloaf i agree

[@danno321s]

Back in the day it was common to disable traction control to get out of plowed in space. Rock the car back and forth to generate momentum then either forward or backward and out.

[@johng4527]

one of the first things i do when i get in my car or truck is turn off the traction/stability control, especially if the roads are snow covered.

[@665Thunder]

The Alfa Romeo traction control is also thought for heavy snow conditions, it will allow some slippage to get you out of trouble. Disabling TC to handle better in snow on a 4x4 is a thing of the '90

[@dinopappous6639]

TURN OFF STABILITY TO GAIN TRACTION ? WTF ARE YOU DRINKING....GERMAN KOOL AID

[@slsrme]

It has 3 settings on the dial DNA D= Dynamic drive this will give you the speed and pick up you need. I have the Sport model when in D you will get more sporty handling and less traction control...in the N= normal driving you still get a great deal of pep and more control and torque, in A = all weather you get lots of torque, pull, and control for wet roads, snow, and hauling. You need to know your cars before you do a test drive video. I have a friend who had a Macan V6 and he couldn't keep up with me in all 3 tries. He now has a Stelvio, he traded his Porsche in that following weekend...lol's

[@teerexness]

Exactly! This is a fun, but but ultimately unprofessional video. Notice no track times or hard data of any kind either. I don't personally think that ease of defeating the traction control is a very wise idea, particularly in snow and ice. Especially away from a closed course, in the real world.

[@andreyeliseyev]

Have you had any PSM error messages when drifting in the snow in a Porsche?

[@dinopappous6639]

Probably the most unbalanced nonsensical car review on the internet..... 4 Cylinder Turbo vs Twin Turbo 6 ....Thanks for the check Franz and Hanz...when can I cash it ? Ever hear of Alfa's Twin Turbo 6 with 505 HP ??? And 0 - 60 in 3.3 sec ??? DUH ?? FORZA ALFA BABY !!!! THE KING IS BACK !!!!

[@dinopappous6639]

@Joseph Pae Porsche equals VW

[@dinopappous6639]

@Joseph Pae So...allow me to educate the CLUELESS GERMAN FANBOY....When you look under ANY Porsche bonnet you will find VW LABELS EVERYWHERE....The Giulia and Stelvio were developed under the watchful eye of the late great Sergio Marchionne who put together a FERRARI SKUNKWORKS TEAM to develop the Engines, Suspensions, Steering, Braking and most importantly the AMAZING CHASSIS of these cars.....Chrysler and FIAT are NOWHERE TO BE FOUND YOU CLUELESS BUFFOON....Keep forking up the MOULA for your GLORIFIED VW !!! FORZA ALFA BABY !!! THE KING IS BACK !!!

[@dinopappous6639]

@Ethan Pae Hard to believe when you spend so much time being mesmerized by my greatness....FORZA ALFA BABY !!!! PORSCHE = GLORIFIED VW !!!

[@dinopappous6639]

@Ethan Pae Some originality GERMAN FANBOY TOOL PLEASE !!!! FORZA ALFA BABY !!!!

[@prisca6216]

If you're snow driving, it's not the engine that matters. Only traction control. It's not like they're racing. DUH!!!!!!

[@PaceyPimp]

Alfa really needs to add the ability to fully turn off traction control on the next update..

[@teerexness]

I'm usually not a fan of nanny's, but most people don't drive SUVs on racetracks or closed courses. In the real world, I think it's much wiser for non-professional drivers to let the car make the best decisions. Especially in snow and ice, on real roads. In traffic in or near densely populated areas, the people going "wheeeee!" are the people in the ditches.

[@PaceyPimp]

@@teerexness Yes your but turning it off is not default and turning it on only people who like a sporty feel would do. So it's good to give both of the options but not force one way.

[@UlusowMD.]

When everything else didn’t work Nathan said gelato 🍧 @1:52 hahaha.....

[@chrisshore9000]

Why not the 2.0t vs 2.0t. Do you guys have that video?

[@davidebonannini640]

I think i've heard him saying "because is german (the Porsche) and is fun as hell". "As hell". Because it's German.

[@CrazySteTV]

If i can't turn Traction & Stability Control off: I DON'T BUY IT

[@MultiPurposeReviewer]

The front end of the Macan, while toned down a bit by comparison, looks VERY much like a Urus.

[@AHMEDMOOSAJI]

I spot an NSX throughout the video please tell me a review is coming soon

[@TFLcar]

Here you go: kzbin.info/www/bejne/rYbccpynotiZfqs

[@eaenlle]

Porsche - button pusher's delight

[@67claudius]

But how many buttons are there in this Porsche? the Germans are always kitsch.

[@thethreatwrestling.7053]

Honestly, my 2021 Honda CR-V AWD seems safer than these two in snow. I don't look to be the faster but to be the safer in all weather conditions.

[@La-yt1wr]

Just think the Alfa is like Apple they want to be safe but with the Porsche it’s like Android you can customize everything.

[@AbcD-td4ml]

Lavonte A 🤪

[@alejandroarco3016]

of course, paying almost 30k€ more..you're right man,go for it¡

[@miks564]

Not exactly. You see, Apple is expensive but it sells you state of the art Apple technology. Porsche is expensive but it sells you SUVs made over VW platforms with Audi TFSI / TDI engines.

[@andreataccani5286]

Alfa all the way

[@bicimotoworld4115]

Andrea Taccani a car that doesn't let you shut off tracktion control? never ever!!

[@thewhiteEagle]

of course Alfa romeo the best motor of all it produce 280 hp and 400 nm ..no car deliver that power and have a less price of porshe macan....viva alfa romeo

[@andreataccani5286]

Mr. World how many times do you turn off traction control? Maybe once in an year

[@bicimotoworld4115]

Andrea Taccani i dont know where you live, but where i live, from October to March i turn it off very often! but thats not the point, the point is that i want to be able to turn it off

[@walterdjardino1968]

Andrea Alfa Romeo Stelvio Quadrifoglio $81000, (505hp) this Porsche Macan Gts as tested $89000

[@DaddytechEnt]

*there's go to be some back door top secret way to turn off that traction control in the alpha. you know like up,up, down, down, left, right, left, right, B,A,B,A,Select, Start on the old nintendos*

[@miks564]

If you took the 3.0 V6 Macan, why didn’t you took the 2.9 V6 Stelvio instead of that 2.0?

[@miks564]

@Ethan Pae In this comparison it would've made a difference, because if he got that Stelvio, he could then have all the driving assistance turned off. So, the fun he was craving and found on the Macan, he could have had it on the Stelvio as well. The only advantage on the Macan is that on the Stelvio, the torque vectoring is not possible to switch off, so the system would still be providing traction to every wheel as needed. But that doesn't stop the ability to drift.

[@prisca6216]

@@miks564 it's true. The engine has absolutely nothing to do with snow driving. If it was the base macan, it can still snow drive as well,

[@miks564]

@@prisca6216 I know it's true. But the question remains. If instead of the 2.0 Macan, they've decided to bring the Macan S with a 3.0 engine for this test, why didn't they took the same approach with the Stelvio? Because if they did, they could've switch off the ESP and have the same kind of fun on the Stelvio. This is all about the fun of sliding in the snow, not about the ability to do it. I know the base Stelvio is very competent off road, there are videos showing it on the internet, but unfortunately it doesn't allow the ESP to be turned off, so no fun.

[@miks564]

@superjoe1 Title of the video "Europeans On Ice! 2018 Porsche Macan vs Alfa Romeo Stelvio Snowy Review" Question in the title: "What's a better Ski car? Is it the 2018 Porsche Macan or the Alfa Romeo Stelvio? Watch this video comparison review to find out." And they take a 3.0 against a 2.0. Which is convenient, because the 2.9 which is closer to the 3.0 would provide a very different result and conclusion than the one found on this video. But everybody knows that. It's convenient, that's all.

[@prisca6216]

@@miks564 oh, jeez you make everything seem so complicated

[@1970HondaCL100]

No ability to turn off traction control on the Alfa? That's a fail.

[@k.r.v.4219]

Carcaine it’s all in the driving mode selection!

[@fallguy4209]

Probably have to put it in dynamic which is sport mode

[@blockeduser5769]

The point of AWD is to go , not spin tires. Protect Driveline from that dumb ass teenager that looks just like you but only has half a brain.

[@Sir......]

Remove ABS fuse and that probably would do it.

[@ajyahzee]

Well as a journalist if he knows how to use a smartphone and google it would be resolved pretty fast

[@bugheman]

Chocolate brown leather looks good

[@Blankadoodledo]

Great video...also...i loveeee buttons in the car.

[@dinopappous6639]

BECAUSE I PREACH THE TRUTH....I'm NOT A SHEEP LIKE ALL THE GERMAN FANBOYS... The history cannot be denied.. "Ferdinand Porsche[3] (3 September 1875 - 30 January 1951) was an automotive engineer and founder of the Porsche car company. He is best known for creating the Volkswagen Beetle" "December 1945, French authorities arrested Porsche, Anton Piëch, and Ferry Porsche as war criminals." "Anton Piëch was an Austrian lawyer and the son-in-law of Ferdinand Porsche. He headed Volkswagenwerk GmbH between 1941 and 1945, which produced the Volkswagen vehicles (KdF-Wagen) at the factory in Wolfsburg, Germany." "Ferdinand Karl Piëch (born 17 April 1937) is an Austrian business magnate, engineer and executive who was the chairman of the supervisory board (Aufsichtsratsvorsitzender) of Volkswagen Group." SHOULD I GO ON ? CLEARLY PORSCHE = VW !!! "Vittorio Jano was an Italian automobile designer of Hungarian descent from the 1920s through 1960s. At Alfa Romeo his first design was the 8-cylinder in-line mounted P2 Grand Prix car, which won Alfa Romeo the inaugural world championship for Grand Prix cars in 1925. In 1932, he produced the sensational P3 model which later was raced with great success by Enzo Ferrari when he began Scuderia Ferrari in 1933." CLEARLY ALFA = FERRARI.... I CANNOT CONTINUE TRYING TO EDUCATE IDIOTS !!!! MIC DROP ON ALL THE GERMAN FAN BOYS

[@mastermastromastello]

I’ m italian and I can not stop to laugh lol

[@thomasluggiero3413]

They ended up being failures in The Grand Tour in just dirt. The Alfa has craploads of HP too.

[@protogenxl]

Buy a Raptor -Hamster

[@blockeduser5769]

the interior on that Stelvio really luxurious and good lookin Now if it only had the reliability of a Toyota or a Honda

[@adammacejko1194]

Blocked User its better.. Google it

[@blockeduser5769]

Adam Macejko Name one vehicle made in italy or germany known for reliability xD

[@adammacejko1194]

www.whatcar.com/news/reliability-survey/

[@blockeduser5769]

Adam Its obviously a nice car. They just don't make enough of them compared to Toyota or Honda to even come close to make real life reliability data analysis. It might be reliable as hell, but it will take decades to hear consumers say goin to buy a " Nice reliable Italian Car "

[@adammacejko1194]

Blocked User what is enough to be respectable? I think the whole thing is just in our heads.. new Alfa Romeos are as reliabilite as any usual car in that segment...Google it again

[@Tenshockbelgium]

This looks as a Porsche sponsored comparison. They should have taken the direct rival stelvio QV which humiliates the Macan or tell about the price difference between these two

[@JC-rm6pm]

Macan destroyed the Stelvio, after all, as the most popular mexican reviewer said, "Macan is the only car you need"

[@adammacejko1194]

JC4 price different od over 30k... Ok than... They should compare basic Macan or to ide Stelvio Quadrofoglio

[@giovannibrunetto9208]

Alfa Romeo for ever.

[@bananarepublic8985]

Porsche sounds way better

[@adammacejko1194]

Banana Republic its V6... obviously.. compare stelvio quadrofoglio V6...thats something else...

[@vassallo49]

Stelvio Quadrifoglio 510 HP V6 twinturbo!

[@christopherhayes2434]

He is having fun

[@chili_d]

But how do they handle as the manufacturer intended? I don’t care about traction on a lake. I want good traction on the street.

[@vwr777]

The Porsche representative used to be a car reviewer, right?

[@bennyang8049]

I tried my best to get the tail out on the Stelvio in an empty parking lot. It just wouldn’t let me even with 0.8g and at high rpm

[@aurorajones8481]

Who is rockin the white NSX in the snow?! I WANT THAT BITCH!

[@RarelyReplies]

How much sunscreen does that forehead need on a sunny day? Holly hell

[@scottgraham152]

What MF setting should I use in the snow 18 GTS

[@romanohaan4042]

You should have taken the stelvio qv, now you had top of the line mecan and the cheapest stelvio...that isnt fair!

[@prisca6216]

It's traction control that matters, ya little dipshit

[@srvtx6527]

Great video on traction control

[@enjayrap]

I’m just watching the NSX at 5:25

[@prisca6216]

Andys mountain range

[@chiane1968]

What a weird video. Tells me nothing, and then praises the Porsche for NOT keeping traction.

[@alfamonk]

I was wondering what Artie Lang was up to these days.

[@hothippo6013]

I am very interested in that Range Rover at 4:28

[@bojantrivic6852]

Why didn't you compare QV to GTS? There you can turn off the traction control and the rest. Not a good comparison.

[@vladsaghin7644]

The Porsche guy used to work at Autoguide right?

[@NathanDAdlen]

Vlad Saghin yep

[@MishaAutos]

the grand tour part 2

[@NathanDAdlen]

M. O.G. Sure, but we filmed this a week before the episode aired.

[@thewhiteEagle]

the lights of the macan very ugly espicially from the front..i like the stelvio because it have a different design of all it's compititors

[@andreataccani5286]

Fadi Jiha I agree. I hate the 4-led points headlights, they look cheap and ugly

[@AbcD-td4ml]

Realy??? The stelvio looks like all the other boring SUV’s ! If you take the alfa badge off it looks like the first cheap Kia driving along.

[@andreataccani5286]

Dennis B. Mmmh... do you compare the historic triangle grill to a Kia?

[@AbcD-td4ml]

Andrea Taccani alfa killed his history a long time ago.

[@AbcD-td4ml]

Andrea Taccani nobody buys the gulia for a reason. People Are disapointed in the quality. The historic triangle is messed up because of all the problems the cars have these days.

[@Raffaelgalardi]

Poor comparison - youre not comparing anything thats on the same platform other than the shape. This is why you've got so many dislikes

[@shawn12132]

Please return to reviews!

[@NatureRecycleFlorida]

Porsche would be more reliable

[@giuseppelapomarda598]

NatureRecycleFlorida stereotypes, everywhere

[@luissantuzzi5891]

NatureRecycleFlorida vai a vedere la classifica di warranty direct..... buon divertimento

[@dinopappous6639]

IF it wasn't a glorified VW

[@wolfsburvviann]

enjoy your check engine light (I admit it even I'm a vw fanboy)

[@czealtamahawk1228]

Porche and Alpha Romeo are still lacking Android auto, Apple car play, Touched Gui control, and very expensive to maintain.

[@Enrique-yd4ei]

that's not the Stelvio for that Macan, maybe QV should be better.

[@MrEric96744]

Can you review the new Acura NSX?

[@TFLcar]

Here you go: kzbin.info/www/bejne/rYbccpynotiZfqs

[@alexistosta2399]

Alfa all the way. No maker beats the italians...

[@prisca6216]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/j2nYe6RngL11n80

[@16jnajm]

Why the hell would they not let you turn off the traction control?

[@prisca6216]

Bc they dumb af

[@miks564]

I agree they could at least allow turning the ESP off. That would help for this kind of driving experience. As for the traction control I believe it's because the way the electronic torque vectoring system works. If you disable it, you also lose the ability to lock the rear differential which is something nice to have for drifting. I guess they've decided it was too much effort just for drifting. Maybe we could have a future version of this system with that in mind.

[@dcpc08161992]

Hello, why haven't anybody do a video on the 2017/2018 Toyota Sienna AWD van on a snowy road? Yes, I know SUV is all the rage but then there are parents out there that drive minivan and wondering about the only van that has All Wheel Drive in the US.

[@NathanDAdlen]

dcpc08161992 I desperately want to. Maybe this spring

[@ttgautam21]

Porsche way more fun than Alfa...

[@Michael_Livingstone]

I'm surprised that the Alfa actually started and didn't appear to break down in the cold!

[@luissantuzzi5891]

Bentley Kawasaki peccato che nella classifica affidabilità della warranty direct molte porsch siano in fondo.

[@adammacejko1194]

Oh cmooon ...dont believe those gossips

[@Schcarraffone]

Bentley Kawasaki and you expected.provably some wise guys with guns and.cannoli right?

[@davidbicchetti]

The Porsche looks like one of those german tanks which have proved totally unreliable in Syria, a real shame not what it used to be.

[@alejandroarco3016]

please tell us how many people will deactivate the traction control when goes to work or just to the market or maybe go up or go down the mountain when is completely snowy just for fun, really...I mean...really? hahahaha and next time compared something balanced and not this, here in Europe the Stelvio 280hp(56k€) 0-100KMhor 0-60mph 5,7s or porche gts 360hp (81K€) 0-100 kmh or 0-60 mph 5,2s ... with the Stelvio quadrifoglio version you can deactivate the traction control and get more fun for sure...but all who prefers a name go for porche and be happy knowing that owns a brand and who owns and Stelvio will be happy everytime riding this car and smiling when pass aside on the road one of these supposed supercars....

[@alfaromeo3501]

If you used a twin turbo v6 porche ,you should have used a twin turbo v6 stelvio. Not fair

[@dinopappous6639]

OMG !!!! At 0:25-0:26 ....Can a center console look any more convoluted than the Macan's ? Whatever happened to simplicity and elegance ? Oh yeah, that would be Alfa....

[@shotokanslammer1]

Dino Pappous when you’re taking that luxury Fiat into the shop for the 3rd time in a single month - just tell yourself at least you have a nice center console LOL

[@dinopappous6639]

@@shotokanslammer1 HAHAHAHAHAHAHA....you really want to enter into the "reliability" discussion with your "GLORIFIED VW" !!!! 911 IMS Bearing anybody ? PLEASE...don't drink the German Kool AId Hanz and Franz are pouring ! Audi + Porsche = GLORIFIED VW ALFA = Ferrari .....NEXT !!!!

[@dinopappous6639]

@@shotokanslammer1 Watch this ... 400 HP and 406 lb ft of TORQUE and 7 speed PDK leading to 4.62 0-60 vs 505 HP and 443 lb ft of TORQUE and 8 speed Auto leading to 3.94 0-60.... and it's $10 K Cheaper and it's Ferrari engineered Vs VW (EMBARRASSING) and it has a RWD bias vs a FWD bias....OK...FORZA ALFA....GOT IT....MIC DROP !!!!!!

[@dinopappous6639]

@Ethan Pae ETHAN...YOU LOVE MEAT BALLS !!! JOSEPH PAE'S MEATBALLS !!

[@dinopappous6639]

@Ethan Pae Koengsegg is SWEDISH BULLSHIT !!! NO LEGACY NO RACING HISTORY ....BULLSHIT !!!

[@737henri]

HaHa, you want to be on youtube too! But then in the crash-video section...;-)

[@DoctorChange106]

having fun in the snow on a private course is not the point - bad vid, only good for button happy freaks - LIFE in the real world is most important.

[@NathanDAdlen]

Kevin Niemi We have regular reviews too. Given that we were at a winter driver event and interviewed both vehicle’s reps - why is this a “bad” video??

[@DoctorChange106]

I said why above, review not for me, but fun for YOU.

[@NathanDAdlen]

Whatever -

[@diegodiegito7248]

Alfa Romeo Stelvio !!!!!!!!!

[@Alex.AL_26]

make a video of a C43 AMG in the snow

[@dinopappous6639]

I PREACH THE TRUTH....I'm NOT A SHEEP LIKE ALL THE GERMAN FANBOYS... The history cannot be denied.. "Ferdinand Porsche[3] (3 September 1875 - 30 January 1951) was an automotive engineer and founder of the Porsche car company. He is best known for creating the Volkswagen Beetle" "December 1945, French authorities arrested Porsche, Anton Piëch, and Ferry Porsche as war criminals." "Anton Piëch was an Austrian lawyer and the son-in-law of Ferdinand Porsche. He headed Volkswagenwerk GmbH between 1941 and 1945, which produced the Volkswagen vehicles (KdF-Wagen) at the factory in Wolfsburg, Germany." "Ferdinand Karl Piëch (born 17 April 1937) is an Austrian business magnate, engineer and executive who was the chairman of the supervisory board (Aufsichtsratsvorsitzender) of Volkswagen Group." SHOULD I GO ON ? CLEARLY PORSCHE = VW !!! "Vittorio Jano was an Italian automobile designer of Hungarian descent from the 1920s through 1960s. At Alfa Romeo his first design was the 8-cylinder in-line mounted P2 Grand Prix car, which won Alfa Romeo the inaugural world championship for Grand Prix cars in 1925. In 1932, he produced the sensational P3 model which later was raced with great success by Enzo Ferrari when he began Scuderia Ferrari in 1933." CLEARLY ALFA = FERRARI.... I CANNOT CONTINUE TRYING TO EDUCATE IDIOTS !!!! MIC DROP ON ALL THE GERMAN FAN BOYS

[@prisca6216]

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[@dinopappous6639]

@@prisca6216 German Kool-Aid MALAKA TOOL FANBOYS

[@prisca6216]

@@dinopappous6639 pure bullshit

[@dinopappous6639]

@@prisca6216 LIKE YOUR MAMA

[@dinopappous6639]

@Ethan Pae LIKE YOUR MOMMA !!!

[@AbcD-td4ml]

The Porsche in my opinion looks way better. The finish of the materials used Are from another level. I drove both cars and got the macan. I think if you take the badge of the alfa it looks like a Kia or a Mazda suv or any other korean car. The interior finish is realy cheap. And the gearbox had an error. But the dealer fixed it. During my testdrive. Ok the macan is more expensive! But you wil get your money back if you trade the porsche after a few years. The alfa wil go down fast in value. Also the Porsche factory has way more budget than alfa. And it shows. Nice test. 👍 Thanks

[@andreataccani5286]

Dennis B. Are you serious? The leather of the seats is the Pelle Pieno Fiore, handworked by italian artisans

[@AbcD-td4ml]

Andrea Taccani sure have fun with your italian kia.

[@andreataccani5286]

And when you buy an Alfa you buy a piece of italian design. It's way way better looking than the Macan, both in the interior and in the exterior.

[@AbcD-td4ml]

Andrea Taccani did you see the cheap plastic dash in the car? Did you drive it? No pelle pieno fiore or whatever leather can hide that.

[@AbcD-td4ml]

Andrea Taccani it looks like a Kia from the side. Maybe the italian designers had to Many italian wine? Take the badge of and look again! Not everything is beautiful because it’s from italy. I like italy and toscany. But this car is not special. Serious! Take a fhoto of the Mazda suv put it next to a photo of the stelvio! Realy....

[@geegergwisley7977]

The Alfa is the over protective mom who never lets you have fun

[@andreataccani5286]

Geegerg Wisley drive it on a twisty road and you will have fun.

[@felixarbable]

i mean its a soccor mom car so

[@Eeaotc02]

felix crab haha all crossovers are.

[@charleswill497]

Really? Who cares so much about turning off traction control?

[@wqdeqwe]

LOL why is there a Acura NSX there LOL

[@Wolfson47]

Why would you compare the Macan GTS to the base Stelvio? Why not the base Macan? Of course the Macan GTS is better, it costs twice as much.

[@prisca6216]

NO!!!!!!!! IF YOU'RE DRIVING ON THE SNOW, ONLY TRACTION CONTROL MATTERS!!!! smh, italian fanboys

[@Emdcrp]

Wtf? Is not a just comparision. Why you dont use the stelvio QV. Stupid comparision No sense in this comparison. Omg. If tou choose the qv you be abble to switch of tration control....and you see the stelvio win in all types of floors.

[@chriswaggett163]

Stupid review. I have a Stelvio Veloce that I crossed checked against the basic Mecan. No comparison. Alfa so much better out of the box. GTS was over twice the price & not twice the car. Not even close. Base Mecan is dull. And what’s with 40 buttons FFS? Objectively & practically (it’s an SUV), the Stelvio is the better vehicle. Period. Want a sportscar, buy a manual 911, want a drivers SUV, but the Stelvio……plus they are not common like Mecans 😉

[@joerogan2317]

Review the honda crz!