Eurovision 2024 - What is happening? Perspective from inside the Press Room

#eurovision2024 #esc24 #esc #joostklein
The behaviour I have witnessed here in Malmo has been despicable.
These are my thoughts and feelings being here right now.
It’s confirmed now that Bambie from Ireland 🇮🇪 did not rehearse. This is uploading as we are waiting on news from Greece 🇬🇷 and Switzerland 🇨🇭

[@Dennio83]

this could turn out to be a pretty important video. thumbs up for the braveness and honesty!

[@VenlaKaroliina]

This is wrong. Absolutely over exaggerated sanction. Joost should sue for defamation. Ebu's decisions have put everyone at harm way: the artist, audience, countries and the hole concept of the festival. Ebu needs to reflect it own actions and a purge needs to be made. And maybe there should be a search for another sponsor for the event, someone that doesn't effect on Ebu's decision making.

[@geraldinehorton1410]

Joost was behaving with blatant antipathy towards Israel. He's the bully.

[@johnvanderpol2]

@@geraldinehorton1410 So that is a reason to be disqualified?? You just proved the point everyone is making. Moroccan Oil -> They don't even dare to give it their own countries name.

[@marcelrenes2435]

​@@geraldinehorton1410 when did he show is 'blatant' antipathy towards her? I don't understand what you are saying.

[@enriqueali]

Martin Österdahl and the EBU were more than happy to take money from sponsor MoroccanOil, an Israeli company. They forgot though: whoever holds the purse strings gets to call the shots....

[@jasporflex1976]

There are many different companies sponsering the Eurovision from many different countries. Why focus only on the Israeli one? Is it related to obsession with the Jewish state? You trying to make it seem like the Jews are the ones pulling behind the strings.

[@Me.ddddddddddddd]

Good for them

[@dirkjanleene6917]

Thought so too

[@KimVerhaaff]

From what i heard it was Joost making a hand gesture to a camera person. After he had asked them several times not to film

[@Dave-es2lp]

In an area where it was agreed not to film.

[@KimVerhaaff]

@@Dave-es2lp exactly!

[@QuamfyMarc]

And Joost was in high emotion after his outro for his parents. So it looks like a setup of the camera women. Israël forces in play?

[@AMC66765]

@@QuamfyMarc oh come on, you can't start speculating and blaming them for everything, this really isn't on, it's becoming like 1930's Germany now.

[@dinovukusic4921]

Congrats on being brave!!! Finally someone saying out loud what many others know its happening but remain silent!!

[@simbian5900]

I'll just add the main sponsor Moroccan Oil is an Israeli company. That can also explain a few things.

[@madelenezarifa9827]

Yup. Always blame the Jews, of course. 🙄

[@jasporflex1976]

There are many different companies sponsering the Eurovision from many different countries. Why focus only on the Israeli one? Is it related to obsession with the Jewish state? You trying to make it seem like the Jews are the ones pulling behind the strings.

[@johndawhale3197]

You don't deserve that beautiful cat in your profile pic...

[@uadmin]

The reaction from the Dutch was this: Joost went from the performance to the green room and had asked not to be filmed. This was not respected. So he made a gesture to fuck off. This is what we do in te Netherlands. And then there was a complaint. Really!

[@MrDen-lv5uj]

What is okay to do in the Netherlands doesn't mean it's okay somewhere else or with somebody else. It might be offensive and really unpleasant. Even if he hadn't been happy being filmed, he could have reacted in a different, more appropriate way. Besides, I think he knows the rules well. So, his actions have led to these consequences, unfortunately.

[@demi3115]

@@MrDen-lv5uj So you think it's okay to keep doing something desspite the other person saying No multiple times is okay? You're delusional.

[@gertstraatenvander4684]

@@MrDen-lv5uj Yeah, harassment may be perfectly okay in the genocidal Apartheid state, but it's not so much outside of that.

[@uadmin]

@@MrDen-lv5uj Well, thank you. You know you are incorrect.

[@petervanderweerd]

@@MrDen-lv5uj we don’t kill.

[@memaisrandom]

Well done on speaking out man and stay strong, horrible situation. Israel should never have been allowed to compete.

[@k5bu14]

How can delegation from Israel behave as human beings in competition if they don't do that in real life.

[@HZ-fg9sf]

💯 Man, this hits hard. It's sad some of them are brainwashed to the point they don't even realize it though.

[@JohnZonneveld]

@@HZ-fg9sf we as western world have created the Israeli problem by giving them land that belonged to the Palestinian people and not to the western world. We gave something away that didn't even belong to us. So question is who is brainwashed??

[@swiftly26]

More press need to speak out about this immediately

[@RobinAsp77]

Lokal press is biased though

[@chrike01]

I admire you deeply for speaking up about this and I hope it doesn't bring your position in jeopardy! I'm very curious about your view on the Joost Klein situation now that some details have come out to the public.

[@dracuul78]

Thanks for providing some insider's insight. This is going to be a very unpredictable live show...

[@hydlidevlog]

I feel your thoughts. I can imagine that the atmosphere might be tense. Take care and hang in there!

[@petervanderweerd]

I do have something to say about this. Your previous post - getting emotional whilst viewing the Joost Klein official music video - was wonderful and completely authentic. This is of the same level. Thank you for your words.

[@NicoleGroothuijsen]

So for everyone who wants to know what happened with/to Joost this is the official statement of the Avro/Tros (Dutch broadcasting) about all this: “We have taken note of the disqualification by the EBU. AVROTROS finds the disqualification disproportionate and is shocked by the decision. We deeply regret this. An incident occurred after last Thursday's performance. Against clearly made agreements, Joost was filmed when he had just gotten off stage and had to rush to the greenroom. At that moment, Joost repeatedly indicated that he did not want to be filmed. This wasn’t respected. This led to a threatening movement from Joost towards the camera. Joost did not touch the camera woman. This incident was reported, followed by an investigation by the EBU and police. Yesterday and today we consulted extensively with the EBU and proposed several solutions. Nevertheless, the EBU has still decided to disqualify Joost Klein. AVROTROS finds the penalty very heavy and disproportionate. We stand for good manners -let there be no misunderstanding about that- but in our view, an exclusion order is not proportional to this incident. We are very disappointed and upset for the millions of fans who were so excited for tonight. What Joost brought to the Netherlands and Europe shouldn’t have ended this way.” I’ve read somewhere that the threatening movement was not more than a wave of the hand towards the camera. But that is not really confirmed. Why he was being filmed against prior made agreements and her continuing the filming even though him asking her several times to stop….seems like harassment to me.

[@88channel-zo8ju]

If he wasn't against you know who he wouldn't be banned. Literally the main sponsor is from you know where.

[@florianmeier3186]

The question is if that camera woman knew about that agreement. In principle press is allowed to film and report from the event. That is its purpose and as long as it is not in a restricted area or in clear private zone like washing room or against press codex, a prohibition needs explanation. This content also creates just new rumours without proof and does probably not help to deescalate the situation.

[@88channel-zo8ju]

@@florianmeier3186 It doesn't matter, he was speaking publicly against you know who and he was removed on first minor offense. Making stupid things up to justify it doesn't change THE FACTS.

[@galaxia4709]

@@florianmeier3186 The guy of the video is contradicting himself. He says he doesn't know the facts but claims EBU uses double standards and should disqualify Israel too. Nope, they can't punish the girl from Israel for what other people from her country did. Besides, Israeli behavior might be a response to what other countries did to them like Spain who allegedly booed during Israeli performance. We don't know the facts so shouldn't judge and we can't blame EBU for using so called double standards. The candidate from the Netherlands however misbehaved, violating the rules himself, smashed smartphone out of employer's hand, made a vulgar gesture and threatened to hit her if she did it again, let's assume the IT was if she would film again. While he probably didn't have the right to refuse being filmed in the first place. It's childish at least and he could have just walked by and the filming would have been over.

[@florianmeier3186]

We don't know the facts and if it was minor. That is what NL EBU-members say.

[@sandracosta29]

All teachers know 2 types of bullies: the blatant open one - threatening everybody in public and bragging about it - and the silent bully - the one that does nasty stuff when everybody is not watching. It is often a verbal, insiduous, manipulative human being. Finally the victim cracks... and the silent bully plays the victim, and wins. You can cheat the entire planet. Not teachers, they know this destructive behaviour too well. And that's what a certain nation looks like: the silent bully.

[@africx]

This!!! You are so on point! Silent bullies are frustrating to say the least, and everybody dealing with one have my compassion ❤

[@Me.ddddddddddddd]

Boohoo

[@motherofslavs8761]

Chriiiis my heart goes to you! I was happy for you and that you are there! It brakes my heart that this is what happend to you. Please stay safe and take care of your self man! Lots of love from Croatia! You are soooooo brave!

[@ESC_ChrisM]

Thank you so much!

[@daninosaurus]

I love my country's song, because for me it was an anthem, Zorra, but I wish they decided not to perform....

[@Me.ddddddddddddd]

I'm supporting Israel love Spain entry though. Cracking pair bums on them guys lol

[@Tejiknasten]

It's sad that one of the happiest events during these dark times, are being destroyed by hatred and shameful behaviours. I feel sorry for the host broadcaster, Svt. It can't be fun to try to deliver a great show, when the EBU does so many mistakes.

[@Tiasung]

Its only partially the EBU. Its also certain countries (representatives.. dont think their people agree) seemingly to actively want to ruin the event.

[@HZ-fg9sf]

Thank you for speaking on this. Talk about not bringing a contest to disrepute... The irony, the hypocrisy, the double standard. All of this should be looked into. If it is true that Joost got physical which seems strange then that is a serious allegation. They should look into the cause as well. If it is verbal, I agree that the Israeli delegation should be disqualified because they broke the rules as well.

[@HZ-fg9sf]

Update: It wasn't physical. He basically made a warning move. Things have been blown out of proportion. He didn't want the camera on him but the camerawomen didn't listen so he "scared' her. Ngl, this reeks of using a smaller incident for ulterior motives in order to dq him. Not a good look so far. While what he did is not great and certainly foolish, it doesn't warrant a DQ. I hope the artists stand together in solidarity and all threaten to boycott unless his dq is revoked. Police have determined it isn't serious enough to detain him. They passed it onto the prosecutor to determine whether to pursue this further. That is standard practice for minor infractions. Let him perform in the meantime. Should the prosecutor determined to prosecute (which I highly doubt) then have his judgment be in court. Not like this.

[@antoniovaccaro2160]

Thank you for your important report.

[@mariana-vw6jl]

thank you so much for your insight!!

[@nursajarah]

Israel and its EBU cheerleaders have ruined Eurovision. Guys i have watched this contest since 1968, have not missed a single edition and never ever have I seen such level of disgrace achieved by the ESC organization..Martin Osterdahl and its board have to resign and a new start has to come as tbe only way for Eurovision to survive 2024's sh..

[@HZ-fg9sf]

I ditto the sentiment. Talk about not bringing the contest into disrepute... Oh how many bad decisions were made for us to get to this point.

[@Zycoreination]

That fact that Israel is allowed to participate when they banned Russia is insane. But that aside, why are they allowed to participate if they are acting like this to other artists? I mean they banned the Netherlands...

[@jasporflex1976]

It had mostly to do with the relationships between the EBU and each country's respective broadcasting group. Russia's broadcasting organisation had violated EBU rules for years, and its invasion of Ukraine is probably what broke the camel's back. Israel's broadcasting organisation Kan is not in violation of any guidline. Furthermore, Russia invaded a participant country whilst Israel was invaded by a non participant country. Seems like an easy distinction. (Btw, Azerbaijan and Armenia also competed during their recent conflicts.)

[@DobuDobuDobuDot]

Look at the main sponsor of this event and you know why Israel is in there.

[@Zycoreination]

@@jasporflex1976 I know and all are good points for why there is nuance, however I still think it's not the right decision to keep Israel in at the moment, it is disrupting the contest no doubt.

[@dominickjvlogs]

Im sorry when did Ukraine go in and kidnap a bunch of Russians while filming it and posting it online ? Comparing the two things is completely bonkers!

[@helengunter378]

Are you ok My Guy? Russia invaded Ukraine. Hamas invaded Israel 🇬🇧🇮🇱🇬🇧🇮🇱🇬🇧🇮🇱

[@YippieAJ]

Thanks. That took guts!!!

[@ahmedseelawi2948]

Mad ! Thanks for sharing

[@Róisín_of_the_Hawkeye]

Thank you for your report ❤

[@bekind3433]

I am expecting some kind of boycott! I wouldn’t be surprised, if some countries would pull out.

[@suzanne2650]

Thank you for speaking up.

[@jffrancisco_]

RTP, the portuguese broad cast, is pissed! They already were before, but after they delayed the video I think they will fill a complain.

[@alifishies]

I honesty can't fathom the EBUs double standard of letting Israel compeat when they didn't let Russia compeat. She has even lived in Russia for like half of her life which doesn't make it any better. I do feel a little bad for all of the hate she's getting. She probably has the same motives of any other partisepents, but you're just simply not only representing yourself at Eurovision

[@bowerbird7463]

And, she has American accent, not Israeli accent. So how Israeli is she?

[@karvakorva1.2]

​​@@bowerbird7463She lived her first 6 years in Israel and the last 2 years. Total of 8 years. Her mother is Ukrainian and father latvian. She's european jew. Just like the Luxemburgs performer. No hate towards her from anyone still, we're being called antisemitic. Like, wtf.

[@christopherbremner7493]

For me i was ok with Israel being allowed to perform because i seperate broadcaster from country when it comes to ESC but now broadcaster is breaking the rules so they should be out

[@lagofala]

Fake news. It was due to a confrontation with a production crew member, not the Israeli delegation.

[@robinkane.]

What rules were broken?

[@Klayhamn]

you have no idea what you're talking about, they didn't break any rules.

[@babygrogu845]

Anyone who harrasses Marina Satti before GF and while she is still recovering from pharyngitis must be psychopath - woman is probably already nervous enough and sick. Marina we stand beside you🇭🇷😻🇬🇷 And Bambie Thug are such an amazing artist and bullying them for speaking their truth is the direct violation of human right of freedom of expression🇭🇷😻🇮🇪

[@alebe7224]

Are you serious with your comment about whatever represents Ireland this year? All the while she was crying about how this is supposed to be apolitical and now she wants to cause a stir by siding with the terr*rists? That’s the behavior of a toddler at best …

[@lanamereltube]

Apparently there is one constant in all these incidents....Israel

[@yael1473]

That constant is called antisemitsm

[@Hamstersarecute-bb2eb]

Sir do you feel that way about the holocaust?

[@whocares8129]

​​@@Hamstersarecute-bb2ebgood in playing the victim. History repeating, now Israël is doing the same in Gaza.

[@Hana9916]

@@Hamstersarecute-bb2eb My family was in a concentration camp (not Jewish, but Slavs...), so believe me I am aware of the Holocaust. I agree with @lanamereltube

[@cherrycupcake6327]

So v true!!! It's not antisemitism because I'm Jewish!!!

[@AMKLAX]

Thank you for sharing!

[@cricetomannaro000]

The double standard from the EBU was already clear enough when they banned Russia for political reasons and allowed Israel to partecipate even though they did the same thing as Russia but since it's a great financial partner to the EBU and the West is okay with it, then it's all good. The worst part is that the show reputation in permanently damaged now.

[@melanchabba]

exactly, thank you

[@tomseppe6406]

Tbf russia went to war with another eurovisian participant, while morally this isn't worse, it makes sense to not let a party compete who declares war on another party thats also competing

[@oprex1]

Russia was banned because they were kicked out of the EBU. This due to them not having free press. Has nothing to do with the war. They were not banned 2014 when they invaded Crimea.

[@Klayhamn]

if Ukraine is allowed to participate, so should Israel.

[@Tiasung]

Russia and Israel are very different situations. And also, please dont bloody use Russia as tool to attack Israel. Have some decency. Russia should not have been banned either, but blame the EU/NATO for that one. They can't publicly do that with Israel (since unlike Russia, Israel has always been friendly to the west), which is why they are using ''protests'' and the contestants from certain countries (which are indirectly/directly decided by their goverments, btw) to speak out against Israel.

[@mariannelagerwaard-heijkoo2117]

Thanks 💙

[@BullishBear777]

Good video. Dutch peopole don't like to be treated that way. They will say some back. We are not like most countries that would just let things go. We are very direct.

[@Nmh2el]

May the Avrotros sue the EBU for millions if this disqualification turns out to be unfair.

[@melaniesjournal8998]

Thank you for the update. There are so many rumours swirling around but hearing this and the situation with Joost Klein of the Netherlands delegation... it would be too much of a coincidence for them not to be related, if the clip of the aggressive Israeli media to the Dutch team is anything to go by...

[@gumus6625]

Make an official report of this pls and stay save

[@philipchambers5410]

Fuck this.. I'm Irish and I know we are high in bookies but the Swiss are as well so for either country to tell Israel to fuck off... Wtf is going on

[@philipchambers5410]

Meant vote for either

[@SyndroOmCani]

This needs to go viral.

[@KimVerhaaff]

Its probably because Bambi thug and Greece could win. And so could Joost have. Its sad, but obvious what is going on. Heartbreaking. Apparently Israel has to win

[@geraldinehorton1410]

So you were wrong and prejudiced.

[@ev569]

This video should go viral

[@tinainokc]

Thanks for your commentary!

[@sjelos]

I am so sorry that you're going through this at your first gig. Is there a way to connect with the other reporters to perhaps try and file a complaint of some sort? Because all of you whom I follow are saying the same things.

[@lbmdf8532]

Thank you

[@notcontentwithlosing]

if all these allegations are true, what is going on? You saw what happened to Joost - One official complaint and an investigation was started. Is no one filing complaints or is the EBU not taking complaints about said country seriously? And if no one is filing complaints, why not? These are genuine questions by the way, not gonna speculate in the comments.

[@BrianMaher]

Bambie lodged a complaint and Israel were talked to about their behaviour. It's complete double standards compared to how the Nederlands have been treated. Title sponsor is Israeli so the show must go on...

[@notcontentwithlosing]

​@@BrianMaher "talked to about"? that's fucking wild. The hypocrisy is real.

[@LanaMarusic]

But none of you knows what actually happened? Most of the people here in the comments are highly anti semitic and don't even realise it. Geez 🙄

[@notcontentwithlosing]

@@LanaMarusic I don't know who you're talking to but I am talking about the EBU and their double standards. I would still have the same problems if say, Ireland would've been the instigator. Yes, some idiots use the ESC for some blatant antisemitism but to be critical of problematic behavior is a normal human reaction.

[@LanaMarusic]

@@notcontentwithlosing You're talking like you know what exactly happend. Like you've been there and witnessed everything. That's what I mean.

[@ELGee1]

Then file a comllplaint someone and disqualify isreal also. More reason to that then one indçident from joost.

[@natv6294]

You know ppl try to blame them for their ethnicity back in the 1930s too, just saying

[@fishyq5077]

The EBU received complaints but did nothing about it.

[@MariaCarabin]

Thx for updating us! 💔 Love from🇨🇭.

[@emmaslyons]

Typical bullying. All they have is DARVO

[@bekind3433]

Double standards for sure.

[@francescojsb]

But are we talking about the same EBU that, starting from the 2022 final, did everything for a year to make Sweden win in 2023, and despite this, if it hadn't stolen Finland's votes it wouldn't have even succeeded ?

[@alicethroughthelookingglas6305]

Thank you for speaking up. we have a right to know what is happening.

[@ianadam3393]

the ebu is so shit. i am so angry right now. they have no respect for the artist and the fans. i was banned from the esc insta channel. if they cannot tolerate freedom of speech then dont hold a competition

[@bachho1286]

thank you for speaking up!

[@robertboender5816]

I will never watch Eurovision ever again.

[@borogath1973]

I sure as hell will watch tonight. Gonna be 🔥🤣

[@egispetronis7290]

😂

[@Gailtoday]

Who cares?

[@Loug522]

Their mods will have a really hard time doing the damage control in the chat, I will watch just to laugh at the shit show it will be.

[@sandy57ful1]

Eurovision was always going to implode this year, unfortunately...

[@tom.jacobs]

We now all know what is the steps against abuse, talk to police and that is enough for disqualification.

[@twistedelegance_]

Exactly

[@josephstarr1014]

the eurovision is finished time to forget about it & good riddance

[@Special-Creature]

It’s crazy how Europeans are being hated by their fellow Europeans from Germany simply because they criticize Israel.

[@mark9294]

What does this have to do with Germany?

[@Special-Creature]

@@mark9294it’s known that Germans absolutely support the terrible that’s that are happening to people in Gaza. And you are attacking anyone that is only slightly criticizing Israel.

[@gabesalgado789]

I speak Hebrew and I rewatched the broadcast. If Bambie Thug thinks it was against the rules, then Graham Norton would have the UK d/qed every year for multiple violations. "Prepare your curses" is an obvious double entendre related to the theme of her performance and was meant to be funny, whether you found it so or not (I didn't).

[@Booklover-coffeelover]

Everyone vote Croatia 🇭🇷 - or whichever country of the other 23 (mind you, 23). Someone save us from the mess this is about to become

[@RobinAsp77]

Better if everyone voted for the same.

[@JohnZonneveld]

Don't vote, EBU is only interested in your €€

[@88channel-zo8ju]

Vote for Croatia yeah, they stopped the jews once in history, they will again.

[@jackieoconnor4926]

Brave man. Bravo 👏🏻

[@yiorgosorion]

What’s verbal abuse though? I feel like the definition is rather broad

[@galaxia4709]

Is threatening to hit 'verbal' enough for you?

[@Tinka22]

Eurovision Chris-is.

[@bekind3433]

Russia is out, why is Israel competing?

[@Wrexham_AFC]

Why is Ukraine competing? They’re bombing their own in Donetsk and Luhansk.

[@Lera4kalera4ka]

Because hamas is not a country its a tiny city gaza of trrst islamists

[@Debora_BR_IL_NL]

Russia is an aggressor country that set a military operation for conquering Ucrania. Israel is defending its citizens after a massive, unprovoked citizen's massacre and kidnapping and set a military operation to fight terrorists who promised to repeat the slaughter, and to rescue the hostages.

[@yael1473]

Google is free, why not look it up?

[@androsdiamond]

🤑🤑🤑🤑

[@rebeccahooper7968]

The show should be BANNED arms supplied to all countries by the UK

[@Zycoreination]

Subbed, good video 👍

[@bowerbird7463]

Europe falling apart, thanks to Israel politics

[@robinkane.]

Thanks to Islam

[@spoopythings]

@@robinkane.facts

[@skurtbert]

As the police is involved I’d guess it’s a little worse than a “verbal altercation”. But who knows.

[@gertstraatenvander4684]

It's not.

[@callosamiusprometheus7350]

It was just verbal. Even EBU has said that.

[@seppa193]

The police confirmed nothing physical happened, so if there was anything at all it was just verbal.

[@melindamuller4466]

The Dutch broadcasting corporation has released what is known so far. The woman wasn't even TOUCHED. The Israeli delegation has been harassing other artists the entire time, and yet still she is allowed to participate.

[@DanielledeVreede]

If you go to the police instead of talking about things with the other party, then the police is involved. They'll investigate whether action needs to be taken. Says nothing about what actually happened

[@lamiiiija]

They are allowing Israel to still participate but nit Netherland

[@lamiiiija]

Not in mean way but like…

[@neukenuk]

Bravo

[@swiftly26]

Crown the witch!

[@nursen2106]

regardless of the mistkes of the israeli broadcast and delegation etc, we still don't know, why Joost was finally disqualified? What are these roomers about an incident with a staff member? Why not wait, before screeming, bring Joost back? I mean some commentators here. not the video content. I would really like to know, what did switched it? there must have been a moment there

[@uadmin]

Can't help it....final remark: kzbin.infoa6i6eiRBkvI

[@איילתיעקב-כ1ח]

It's clear that you don't know all the details and the situation happened prior to the incidant with Bambie.

[@alvinara2076]

It’s a competition between countries, what do you expect? Ofcourse it gonna be political. Everyone try to make it political ….the singer, the viewer, the voters and the most problematic one is the protestor. I can’t blame EBU completely just how bad they handled it. Everyone try to take their chance to make it political.

[@Klayhamn]

ya - greece and cyprus giving each other 12 points each year is not by coincidence. the contest was always political. if you want to make it not political, remove the flags and national identities (and even that won't eliminate it completely)

[@Alexthe_LucasTDplayer]

@@Klayhamn Η ΕΛΛΑΔΑ ΠΕΡΣΙ ΕΔΩΣΕ 4 ΣΤΗΝ ΚΥΠΡΟ ΓΙ'ΑΥΤΟ ΜΗ ΛΕΤΕ ΟΤΙ ΘΕΛΕΤΕ

[@Paramart]

I can think of 2 reasons for the disqualification, sexual misconduct or violent misconduct. they haven't said so we are left to speculate.

[@Velnar.]

We do actually know by official statements! Here it is, the extremely bad thing he did (sarcasme 10000%): he was filmed against what was agreed upon by a camera lady behind the scenes, Joost warned her to stop, she did not, he made a threathening movement.......thats it, she harrased him, he was stressed as he was about to go on stage within half an hour and got very mad, but HE NEVER EVEN TOUCHED HER........

[@melindamuller4466]

The Dutch broadcasting corporation has released what is known so far. The woman wasn't even TOUCHED. The Israeli delegation has been harassing other artists the entire time, and yet still she is allowed to participate.

[@JohnZonneveld]

None of it, a fucking gesture

[@galaxia4709]

Always be careful to trust dutch people. The candidate from the Netherlands smashed the smartphone out of employer's hand, made a vulgar gesture and threatened to hit her if she did it again, let's assume the IT was if she would film again. While he probably wasn't in his right to refuse being filmed in the first place. He also could have just walked by and the filming would have been over with.

[@JohnZonneveld]

@@galaxia4709 if the EBU has balls they would show her footage. They made an agreement that he wouldn't be filmed off stage and that is exactly what she did.

[@ElfenLied987]

Truely shocking carry on by Israel

[@nikivee9130]

Do we know when and why this harassement started?

[@sallycar3114]

THANKS ANGELINA FOR SINGING IMAGINE ❤❤😍😍😍😍

[@NatteSuiker]

Down with Österdahl!

[@arnemielken]

What is going on?

[@simbian5900]

queer olympics of virtue signaling ...that is going on :D

[@FountainWeeper]

I love when people virtue signal about virtue signalling. Pot calling the kettle black.

[@terrymann1341]

This is supposed to be a song contest, A SONG CONTEST! Leave the politics out of it as this is meant to be entertainment. a contestant has been kicked out for his behaviour, not the end of the world. What is that old saying? The show must go on....

[@melindamuller4466]

The Dutch broadcasting corporation has released what is known so far. The woman wasn't even TOUCHED. The Israeli delegation has been harassing other artists the entire time, and yet still she is allowed to participate.

[@lzzrzzr06]

When the politicians ignore the people, the people start do find other ways to get their message across. So, this song contest is an opportunity for people to get their message across because their opinion is getting silenced on "official channels". It is sad actually that we have to deal with that and we don't know what REALLY happened..

[@Adam-326]

Well, the contest was always political, since it was created to promote peace amongst the European nation states, which has mostly been achieved. Therefore, it no longer serves its original purpose and has become an outlet for the promotion of leftist ideologies. In any case, as much as people should support the state of Israel, they should not vote for them in this year’s Eurovision, which they should’ve recused themselves from. Vote for Croatia, they’re essentially the only one that isn’t overly degenerate or political.

[@q-tarcana7610]

Willful ignorance for the sake of personal entertainment should NOT be an excuse, especially for a song contest that uses #unitedbymusic as their slogan, while having a country that actively is in a war engaging in racial segregation. We aren't united, this isn't Eurovision as it should be because EBU ruined all perspectives of it when it made the POLITICAL DECISION of inviting and keeping Israel in the competition. So do not twist this into being the public being too stuck up, it was the EBU that expected us to stay silent over a clear injustice that THEY THEMSELVES have brought upon this song contest.

[@JohnCederdahl]

This circus should end, no more ESC! It's not about music anymore...

[@cherrycupcake6327]

Disgusting!!!

[@madelenezarifa9827]

Except that both the EBU and Swedish legal authorities have definitely stated that no other delegation, including Israel, was involved. Joost is an adult who’s responsible for his own actions.

[@santilic4836]

Croatia is the real winner ❤

[@Klayhamn]

"Hurricane" playing in the background

[@johndawhale3197]

The true winner

[@notyourbusiness1863]

I’m sorry I’m keep watching and waiting for actual real examples and proof of the double standards … all I hear on repeat abuse but what actually the abuse is - nothing… if you have proof just fu***n show it!

[@mark9294]

Well he did mention that Kan representatives booed Bambie Thug and made a “sleeping gesture”

[@notyourbusiness1863]

@@mark9294 and I’m supposed to trust this guy I’ve never seen? That’s clearly act little political towards Israel? When you come up with a ch accusations at that level please provide some actual evidence to back it up not just words. Especially there is a organizer committee that should be alarmed about such behavior! You are all journalists there and yet not one of you have a picture or video proof of that… that’s what I call it “lie”

[@mrrkdino]

Hold on, Bambi was constantly speaking against Israeli so she desveres what she gets. Terrible song anyway.

[@henriikkak2091]

Are you inciting violence?

[@jasporflex1976]

​@@henriikkak2091How is calling her out for her hate inciting violence?

[@reluctanttraveller275]

I could do with a few more specifics....

[@JohnZonneveld]

Joost seems to have made an aggressive gesture towards a camera operated by said woman. He repeatedly asked her to stop filming, at the end he made the gesture. He never touched her. This happened during his walk off stage towards the green room Thursday night

[@galaxia4709]

The guy of the video is contradicting himself. He says he doesn't know the facts but claims EBU uses double standards and should disqualify Israel too. Nope, they can't punish the girl from Israel for what other people from her country did. Besides, Israeli behavior might be a response to what other countries did to them like Spain who allegedly booed during Israeli performance. We don't know the facts so shouldn't judge and we can't blame EBU for using so called double standards. The candidate from the Netherlands however misbehaved, violating the rules himself, smashed smartphone out of employer's hand, made a vulgar gesture and threatened to hit her if she did it again, let's assume the IT was if she would film again. While he probably didn't have the right to refuse being filmed in the first place. It's childish at least and he could have just walked by and the filming would have been over.

[@justcomments1239]

This is nothing in comparison to the treatment of Eden Golan, how it wasn’t even safe for her to leave her room

[@karvakorva1.2]

Well... That's why you don't represent a nation committing genocide rn. Europeans wanted Israel to be banned this year, EBU let them in. So... What you expecting? Ofc we protest. But that shouldn't be physical violance.

[@AMC66765]

@@karvakorva1.2 16 nations had Israel as their televote winner, what 'Europeans' are you referring to?

[@mark9294]

@@karvakorva1.2speak for yourself. You don’t represent “Europeans”.

[@petervanderweerd]

She shouldn't have been there in the first place. Genoside should not be tolerated, or is it?

[@dyrleifunabergs6070]

​@@AMC66765 because the pro pali people all boycotted

[@trao1938]

Here's what the big problem was this year, and it's something we won't see a lot of pocasters say out loud, because God forbid they lose subscribers by going against the fold; This year at Eurovision, bullying a contestant was considered fair game. Because we don't approve of what her country is doing, we felt it our obligation to make the two weeks she spent in Malmo as difficult, and as uncomfortable as possible. If she's harassed, threatened, booed, ostracized..too bad. Because we don't like her country, and the most convenient way to show that was by taking out all our aggressions on her. The woman spent two weeks with bodyguards, and fearing for her life. Too bad, we hate her country, so that means she deserved spending those two weeks in absolute torment. Should anyone have stuck up for her, and said, "Hey, we can all agree that what's happening there is vile, but how does antagonizing this woman for 2 weeks help that situation? All this woman did was agree to participate in a song contest." NO WAY, WE SHOULDN'T DARE COME TO HER DEFENSE in any way. Because if anyone of us is seen being nice to her, IT MEANS WE SUPPORT ISRAEL'S WAR. Or at least that's what will BE SAID about us! And there go our FANS AND SUBSCRIBERS! No, no, the POPULAR thing is to go along with what everyone else is doing, and that's to CONTINUE BULLYING HER, while at the same time PREACHING PEACE. See, it's okay to discriminate against someone that hasn't done anything wrong, just because of where they're from. And if EVERYBODY'S doing it, we can escalate the tensions so high that the contest becomes a MISERABLE EXPERIENCE for everyone! And then we'll blame her for that. Here's the reality of the matter..Despite a barrage of complaints, Eurovision/The EBU allowed Eden Golan to participate in the contest. This means that no matter what our opinions are about it, Eden Golan had AS MUCH RIGHT to be there as anyone else. And ANYBODY who found this decision too unbearable to accept could've boycotted the contest, withdrawn from participating in it, and refused to report on it. We all had that option to walk away. But we didn't. Because actually TAKING A STAND against it would not have served our OWN personal interests . All of these outspoken armchair activists may like to see Eden gone, but they like their celebrity, their content creating, and their subscriber/fan base a lot more! When it MATTERED, and when it involved actually personally SACRIFICING something of importance, nobody budged. So all the grandstanding and mischief that went on these past two weeks, all the emblems, body paint, and nail decor antics to show solidarity, all the mockery and disrespect towards Eden as the cameras rolled amounted to nothing more than theatrics to secure GOOD PRESS.. ":Awwe, you painted your nails in a certain design, what a thoughtful and loving person you must be!" "You put a cryptic message on your forehead- God, what a brave and incredible sacrifice that was!" I would've had more respect if one contestant was filmed offering Golan a moment of simple decency and humanity. But then, doing so would've put that person's own reputation on the line once the photo went public, and they'd be condemned and ostracized by the masses as well. Let's hope all these heroic activists continue their righteous rage for a cause so important to them that displaying outright vitriol towards a song contestant seemed warranted. But my guess is that most of them stopped worrying about Gaza the moment Nemo was handed the trophy.

[@may51973]

That's way she is eager to join the IDF in Gaza

[@trao1938]

@@may51973 Do you have any idea at all what happened to Israeli men, women and children on October 7th? They were murdered and r**ed by Hamas groups, who launched 3,000 rockets at Israel that day. Over 1,140 dead. Over 130 hostages still not released, and they are still finding their dead, ra**ed bodies today. These were innocent civilians attending a concert, violently murdered, kidnapped, and se***ly assaulted. If this happened in your country, would it surprise you that your citizens would want to retaliate and fight? Some of those murdered and kidnapped were from other countries. Would you still support a country that had done these atrocities to your people? I am not pro-Israel, and I think the genocide that is taking place is horrific. But to claim that one side is 'pro peace' while the other is 'pro-war' is incredibly naive. Of course we don't like it. But we weren't the one's being attacked and massacred that day, either.

[@RobinAsp77]

Why was my comment removed?

[@RobinAsp77]

All i said was that its good bambi made a propper complaint 😏

[@tamarataylor6476]

Interesting how no body's being accountable and puts it on Israel because it's easy? Even the incident with Joost was blamed on Israel for some reason. I see the pattern.

[@melindamuller4466]

Accountability for what? They are filming them without their consent, they are bullying journalists. They are propaganda tools for a country in an active genocide. The EBU is covering up the booing with fake cheering. This entire thing is absolute bullshit.

[@natv6294]

Blaming them isn’t new, ppl did that in 1930s too.

[@fishyq5077]

@@natv6294 Genocide was wrong then, genocide is wrong now. Stop being on the wrong side of history.

[@flaviospadavecchia5126]

What are you even talking about? The poor Israeli representative is the one being booed on the stage and enduring constant bullying from fellow singers and the media. You just want to see what you want to see.

[@HZ-fg9sf]

And you are seeing just what you want to see. Both things can be true.

[@jonathancasey3959]

She's been kept away from everyone and not allowed to mingle!!!!

[@Eva-Kars]

Of course, it's sad that one individual has to endure the hate. However, this is not about her, but rather her being the representative of a country that is committing a genocide, something that, despite the complex past of Israel and Palestine, should not be condemned by any (EU) country or resident. Eden and her team should have known what they were getting themselves into. Personally, I believe it would have been best for everyone if they had decided not to participate this year. I hope Eden and her team receive the proper support for any stress they are under. However, I think we, as people, should not let it go unheard that we do not tolerate the violation of human rights and the terrible circumstances, both mental and physical, the real victims are dealing with!

[@LanaMarusic]

​@@Eva-Kars Let's not forget that the real victims are on both sides.

[@Klayhamn]

@@Eva-Kars question - how did you protest against the attacks by palestinians on october 7th?

[@AMC66765]

I'm glad this year is over, it's been the worst and most toxic ever. I totally respect your thoughts as someone who was there Chris and don't dispute them but frankly all these comments here blaming everything as a set up by Israel are not on, and not proven. Are we turning into 1930's Germany now? I think I'm done with this show permanently. Whatever happened to Joost, or anyone else is all down to the EBU and mismanagement of everything and that is that. I am so fucking sick of fan toxicity this just isn't worth it any more.