EV Truck Braves Land of Extremes & Uncovers Heat Pump Hack!

[@hieyeque1]

One thing I noticed when operating an EV is that the trip becomes all about the EV and charge management. To me, this shows how we're in the infancy of the whole electric vehicle revolution. We'll know we've "arrived" at our EV future, when you go somewhere and you don't think about charging at all. I think this will happen when energy density doubles (or at least 50% more) - and chargers are a common as gas stations.

[@Davran2742]

I absolutely agree: ev technology is advancing rapidly, and the next five years is going show incredible changes in battery technology/chemistry.

[@truckedupevs]

Great comment! We now have two provinces that I've travelled in where that's the case. What I'm doing isn't typical. Many people with evs never think about range or charging at all because of their use case, which is surprisingly a large percentage of ev ownership. But this is such a good issue to raise. The speed at which things have already changed is mind-bending. We're not there yet - but we are certainly close.

[@MrKOenigma]

After 4 years of electric driving this is now happening quite often to me.... I simply do not care anymore on daily use

[@truckedupevs]

@@MrKOenigma When back in BC I never give any thought to range or charging - or basically anything 'novel' or 'challenging' - because it isn't. There is very little, if any, inconvenience with owning an ev in daily use. Thanks for the comment!

[@hieyeque1]

@@truckedupevs Thank you sir. For our everyday use situation, it's a non-issue. My wife and kids took a 4,000 mile road trip over the summer - and it was an issue. Given, we have the base model M3 (which has a small battery). But there were a couple of close calls especially with temps around 114 in the desert (the grand canyon area).

[@roberturen8569]

I really enjoy listening to your trips while I am at work. I have had my Lightning lariat since July of 2022. Best vehicle I have ever owned. I wish mine had the heat pump. No mater it’s still a fantastic vehicle to drive.

[@truckedupevs]

I almost bought a Platinum 2023 for the same price, but I thought it would be better for the channel/viewers if I could demo the new tech. All ev trucks are truly amazing, especially since they are in their infancy. Thank you so much for supporting me!

[@junehanzawa5165]

You might find it interesting that Ford sells the Lightning in Norway. That's right, Norway. They love it there. And and they have pull through stall for towing all over the place.

[@gusbarber00]

I don't understand why we don't have more pull through chargers. Likely a cost issue or a space issue.

[@junehanzawa5165]

@@gusbarber00 They're coming. Many are under construction or planning stages now. It's been mostly due the spaces constraints given to providers by landlords.

[@truckedupevs]

Norway rocks! 90% of all auto sales there are now evs - and car fires are still 20-to-1 againt ICE vehicles - a little tidbit for the FUD chuckers 🙂 BC Hydro is starting to put them in all over British Columbia. I've seen several pull through stalls on my journey. You'd think some techie would have tuned in to 100 years of gas stations and figured this one out...

[@gusbarber00]

@@junehanzawa5165 Good to know..thanks

[@junehanzawa5165]

@@gusbarber00 If you want to see how some places are going to look in a few years, search for "The Crazy Charging Park of Norway" recently released video.

[@taragwendolyn]

Did you remember your towel for that coffee shop? 😂

[@truckedupevs]

You ALWAYS have to have your towel!

[@thomasrutledge1052]

Thank you again for the scenic video. It’s absolutely beautiful up there.

[@truckedupevs]

It really is!

[@canadianrcpilot9048]

For cell signals, you might want to look into getting Starlink mini. Folks have been using it in their cyber trucks and RVs and it works great especially for rural areas.

[@truckedupevs]

I had Starlink at my acreage where there was zero cell signal or internet, and used it for a few years, but it has its issues for certain, as well as cost here in Canada, as you likely know. It's not cheap.

[@WhizBack]

Another great video! Sad to hear about Winnipeg. I have driven across the country a couple of times (pre-EV) and Winnipeg was the rest stop in the center (although it's not really... you've got about double the distance from Vancouver to get to Halifax). Got new tires and had the car checked out there. Everyone should take some time to do it. MY next trip - likely next year - will be via EV. I can guarantee it won't take any longer than driving a gas car as my wifes bladder range and my coffee range is lower than the range of the car (OK, I confess, I'm not a truck guy). Anyway, we will probably take 4 to 6 weeks to do it so we can actually soak in the awesomeness. Thanks for taking us with you.

[@truckedupevs]

Thank you, Robert! Halifax is worse. Stay tuned for that one! I am exactly the same. I've got both your wife's bladder and your coffee obsession 🙂 If I make it 3 hours without a stop, there might be a 'scene'... When my trip is wrapped up I'll definitely be over 6 weeks but I'm also shooting b-roll and doing a pile of camera placement stuff. For a total Noob, this is eating away my time - and then 20~30hrs. per video in post production in seedy motels with no internet. 4~6 weeks on a pleasure trip would be amazing! Again, I'm so thrilled to have you along for the ride! Feeling the support daily. (PS - what ev are you considering?)

[@jamescriss6440]

Thanks!

[@truckedupevs]

Woohoo! Oat milk Lattes for a week! Thank you!

[@JodyYestrau]

Enjoy your videos because you are not shying away from pointing out the disadvantages with EVs. I hate paying for gas which is why I don't own a truck. Though a truck is handy when stuff needs to be moved. Which is why I'm looking at the lightning. Sorry you had bad experience in Winnipeg. Manitoba is my home, and I have often said its not as friendly as indicated by the license plates. Keep on Trucking. 👍

[@truckedupevs]

Thanks Jody! I loved Manitoba, especially Flin Flon! I could easily spend weeks up there camping and exploring - and everyone was over-the-top friendly. I hope that came across in the video for the most part. But yeah, outside of Super 8 East actually volunteering to support my channel, I felt threatened driving around. It came as a big shock, actually - but I wasn't going to let that deter me from the whole positive experience I 'd had up until then. And then the charger stuff ended that idea. They're there - in a very small number per capita, but so many were out of order. I think it will come around eventually. I saw a fair number of evs around. I think moving around openly in a truck doing truck things in Manitoba, however, is still limited for the time being due to the charging network. I hope you don't hold it against me :-(

[@buddywhatshisname522]

I test drove a slightly used platinum lightning recently, and man what a beautiful truck!… I may have to buy it.

[@truckedupevs]

If it hadn't been for wanting to demo the heat pump with my viewers, I'd be driving a similarly-priced 2023 Platinum. It's a freakin' sweet ride! Thanks for the comment!

[@jamescriss6440]

My wife and I are really enjoying your videos. We noticed that Winnipeg was not the friendliest city we ever visited when we went thru there last year. Quebec City was much better, even though we don't speak French. Anyway, enjoy a cup of coffee on us. thanks for your videos.

[@truckedupevs]

Thanks for the BIG cup of Joe! Seriously though, your support means a lot to me.

[@3184Patrick]

as always great video!

[@truckedupevs]

Thank you!

[@chrisspanswick7312]

A fellow HitchHikers fan.👍

[@truckedupevs]

I've never trusted mice...

[@dalepettigrew5071]

I’m curious to see the next one, I’m from NW Ontario originally and I think the stretch from Kenora to Thunder Bay might be a bit dicey, Good luck and keep the great content coming!

[@truckedupevs]

Oooh, it's been TOTALLY tested, I assure you :-) Stay tuned!

[@rxibot]

Excellent video bro keep up the great work!

[@truckedupevs]

Thank you, my friend!

[@jameshart3382]

Manitoba Electric Vehicle Association has participated recently in the northern transportation symposium in Thompson. It was our past president that went up using his Tesla Model Y.

[@truckedupevs]

Yeah, if one backtracks to the Pas and then goes up, one can knock off about 150km, I'm guessing. A Y can totally do it. My truck? Not so much. One charger en route and that whole zone opens wide up for EV truck folk with boats and trailers!

[@economicprisoner]

6:20 I definitely did some range testing after purchasing my 2011 Leaf. We had to drop the speed to 80km/h to make a charger a few times.

[@truckedupevs]

My daughter owns a used one (2016) and drove it from Vancouver to the Kootenays in British Columbia, over 5 mountain passes! She's almost as nuts as me - but she made it!

[@daDors71]

FLO is part of the Blue Oval Network, I think you should be able to use plug and charge. It worked for me in Sask. Enjoy your videos.👍

[@truckedupevs]

Nope. It's part of the Network. Many are - but no Plug & Pay, at least not every time I've tried, which makes it being part of the 'network' completely redundant. I still have to use my RFID card or app. Right on my screen it shows an 'x' on Plug & Pay. So far, only Shell Recharge and Tesla seem to work.

[@truckedupevs]

Are you using the navigation screen in the truck, the new Public Charging Icon portal, or the FordPass? It seems to vary between all three considerably (which is also stupid). I would love to get this to work, but it should just,,, uh, work.

[@daDors71]

@@truckedupevs I have a Mach e and I did use Ford nav. I used the app the 1st time to initiate and the 2nd time at the same charger I thought I just plugged it in. I rarely fast charge so maybe I’m having a brain fart.

[@truckedupevs]

@@daDors71 You might be right, though. Ford hasn't got its act together yet in integrating all these different charging portals. There's 3, for crying out loud! It's a problem, especially when it's trying to migrate everything over to Google Maps. I mean, the truck won't even precondition for the fast charger if Android Auto is used. There's too many links to break in the chain. I am certain Ford is frantically trying to iron all this out, but yeah, Plug & Pay and the Ford Blue Oval Network has been a complete dud from my perspective. I use Android almost exclusively now for trip and charger planning, and I really hate doing so because Ford's navigation is so much more user friendly.

[@trapper411]

Not my favorite choice of a drink, but not too bad😊

[@GlenScart]

Was charging battery plugged into house outlet, unplugged and went to plug into fast charger to top off when I got warning “ high voltage system malfunction requires service “

[@truckedupevs]

This is now the 3rd case I've heard of. Has me worried about the Ultium battery structure. Sandy Munro had concerns too. I would still buy one being that it is fully covered under warranty and most assessment are a fire risk is extremely low (probably why it tripped a fault). So sorry to hear this, Glen. Please email me anytime at [e-mail]

[@mrjonlor]

Oh man. I’m really curious to see how it goes when you get to NS. We were there last summer in our Mach-E and the charging infrastructure past Moncton was…dicey… I hope you have a better experience.

[@Boomtendo4tw]

Magpies are my favorite too. We have them here in California as well

[@truckedupevs]

I love how they cock their heads when listening and interested - just like our Golden Retriever!

[@fifthcircle1]

Fun video. The answer is 42. 😉 One thing interesting to contemplate on all EV's, any standard outlet is an ev charger. Sure, it'll take you a long ass time, but it still charges. Additionally, a campground is full of charging spots. The infrastructure for fast charging is not fully there yet, but if Buc-ees is any indicator, its coming! I recommend you taking a road trip South, and hitting the closest Buc-ees (probably Springfield, MO). It's crazy! 🤣

[@truckedupevs]

We should have known all along it was the mice... I've heard amazing things about Buc-ees! We have some neat things starting to percolate here in Canada also,. One of them is in the next video! Stay tuned!

[@ryandoyle4344]

Can the Lightning be towed charged? If so, that's great safety info to know for remote areas. Possibly faster than some charging options. Watched an old video about tow charging a Tesla model S (Warped) wherein the battery charged 1/3 in 25 miles at 70mph.

[@GlenScart]

Like your videos, I live in Winnipeg Manitoba Nice that you visited the province. I have a 4WT , got late August. Been good but 3 weeks ago main battery failed and waiting for replacement, no one knows when it will come in. One thing I found out is it uses half the power going 80 km ( 50 mph) than 115 km ( 70 mph). Why I am saying this is if you think you will be short of power to get to next charger , slow down. 😊

[@truckedupevs]

You're preaching to the choir, and so important to keep focusing on. It drives me nuts with all these American based ev channels like Out of Spec, TFLEV, state of Charge and others, who do these 70mph range tests and then say the vehicles don't stand up to 'real-world' EPA range. This is something I've been preaching on the channel and have actually said in every province so far. The slower you go, the more range you get. It feels so counter intuitive for so many ICE folk, but it makes tons of sense. In every one of my 'challenging periods' I was averaging 10~20km below posted speed. Sorry to hear about your 4WT! That's horrible news. Any info on what happened?

[@charlesashurst1816]

We happy few. We EV pioneers. Soon, it’ll be easy because we blazed the trail.

[@KlemensEV]

So you turned cabin climate off and you ended up with more range, which you certainly should have. How did having a heat pump option help this? I would love see a comparison of the heat pump to the non-heat pump equipped lightning. Great work and your are having fun in CA. If you are coming to the maritimes, I may make a trip to meet you (from US and Maine).

[@truckedupevs]

Thanks for the comment! It's not as simple as that. Let's take a winter day. A resistance-heater Lightning owner turns the heater off, bundles up and puts on extra long johns - and still loses range. The fact is: It's still cold outside; there is no method to input thermal management in a manner that can offset this effect. Then, after a few dozen miles and no longer being able to feel their privates, said Lightning owner turns on the heat. Now they are drawing electricity through a glorified baseboard heater, which further beats the crap out of the range. In comes the Vapour Injected Heat Pump, a marvel in engineering over at Ford (possible Skunkworks project?). It's not creating the heat. It gets it for 'free'. Sure, like a home heat pump, it has to use some energy in the process of distribution & must follow the laws of physics, but it is incredibly more efficient. However, unlike your home heat pump, it is not as dependent on the variance in temperature from indoor-outdoor. Instead, it's using the thermal generation from the truck itself. So, firstly, when turning on the heat in the cabin in a heat pump setting, it's not burning all those electrons for a resistance element. That's Win #1. Win #2 is when you close that heat loss to the cabin - you ADD it to keeping the batteries at optimal temperature in the cold. In the end, unlike the resistance model, you are increasing, not simply offsetting a decrease, in range. I'm just an old fart, ev truck-owning dumb-ass, so please stand by for the real engineers to roast me alive, but I think I have the premise as to why it worked so well for me on the road, and that's my take on the tech and what I've gleaned from it. I hope this helps.

[@truckedupevs]

By the way, I'm 3 weeks ahead of my vids. Already wrapping up New Brunswick, in Nova Scotia currently, then PEI, and then flying back to BC. My wife has forgotten what I look like :-). Newfoundland will be in the spring. I've run out of time and weather. Maybe a visit will be a possibility then!

[@koryleach9660]

I'm debating on buying some 18" wheels from a different Ford pickup to put some winter tires on. I'm thinking the 18" wheels should also help in the winter for range due to the lower weight in addition to increasing traction due to larger side walls on the tire. My dad and I used to go up to Amisk Lake. It's in Saskatchewan but we'd drive up through Manitoba, La Pas and Flin Flon, to get there. It's beautiful countryside. I'd love to take my family up there, but I'm a bit leery due to both our vehicles being EVs. (Lightning Flash and an EV9.)

[@rolandjarrett611]

I bought 18's but steel wheels will not fit over the brakes so you have to order aluminum wheels. We run 10 ply winters, and there is a very limited selection in the 20's.

[@koryleach9660]

@@rolandjarrett611 yeah, I wasn’t planning on steelies. I was looking at some F-150 takeoffs.

[@truckedupevs]

I have a friend in the Kootenays who takes his Lightning into some pretty dicey places all the time (the Upper Incomappleux Valley where he does research). He shredded his stock tires twice, and then jumped up to a ten ply Nitto heavy-duty truck tire on 18's and has never looked back. Better wear, excellent winter traction, tough as nails, and not a huge drop in range. I know this sounds crazy, and everyone makes fun of this concept, but give it some thought: Turn your ev into a series hybrid temporarily for deep backwoods/extended range journeys with no infrastructure. Pick up a tri-fuel generator that powers at 4~5k watts, can run on propane, gas or natural gas. Take you bbq tank and a Gerry with $20 and you're golden. It's exactly what Ramcharger is doing and all long range hybrid concepts in the works, but Ford has yet to install an auxiliary input port. That means charging like you're at a Level 2 for a few hours. However, a generator not having to do any load-related work (cam, crank, alternator, drive, tranny, diffs, etc), it all goes into electrons. I haven't run the math fully yet, but I'm thinking you'll be able to extract far more range out of the fuel than an ICE engine could, even with heat loss. I'll be doing some tests once I'm back but I think one could add 1~2 hundred kms by running the genny at the campsite/fishing hole and dramatically extend range in tight spots. If anything, it's piece of mind to do the wild stuff! Thanks for such an excellent question Kory! Expect more content on this in the future!

[@rolandjarrett611]

How do i precondition for public charging (bc hydro) as an example?

[@truckedupevs]

Simply add it as a charging destination in navigation or on your Ford Pass and drive to it. The truck does the rest. Here's a link to Ford: www.ford.com/support/how-tos/electric-vehicles/public-charging/how-do-i-precondition-my-mustang-mach-e-battery-for-dc-fast-charging

[@vvarLEADER]

awsome video! are you going to do a price breakdown at end?

[@truckedupevs]

Possibly! Possibly. My channel avoids the Out of Spec deep dive stuff to some degree. I'm not that smart. But I think I'll give a breakdown of averages, highlights, shocks, and overall impressions (there'll be some geeky, nerdy stuff, for certain, being that I'm both)

[@Maxxmentum]

The Bare in a T-shirt rocks :)

[@truckedupevs]

The Beluga Whale looked somehow perverted in a T-top....

[@dhands100]

So if you had run your whole trip still running your heat pump but with the on board external power off, how much do you think your range would have been increased?

[@truckedupevs]

Oh, that's a tough one. That would take some serious math and I'm not that smart. I don't think it's huge. In fact, I'm certain it's very small. But when I'm trying to retain every electron, I could see it made a difference. This is a pure guess, but after doing this multiple times, I would say a 1km or 0.6 miles per charge cycle? It's minuscule, but when push comes to shove that could be the difference between making it to the charger or leaning into the bumper of a dead truck to get it to roll :-). Driving a 3 ton block through the air at speed takes a crap pile of electrons. Running a circuit that at best is drawing a trickle is a drop in the bucket. The biggest change was certainly the heat pump.

[@dhands100]

@truckedupevs Thanks for the reply. Do you think your heat pump is, say double as efficient as the resistive heater in your previous Lightning?

[@dhands100]

@truckedupevs Also, they make 12 volt electric blankets so that might be a low power way to keep warm without running the heat pump too much. People use them in their tear drops overnight.

[@truckedupevs]

@@dhands100 These would all be guesses, and I don't like throwing out numbers without having evidence to back them up. I can certainly say that it is far more efficient. I also have a cool experiment coming up once it's cold enough here in Canada, and then we should be able to see some very interesting stuff in real world applications! Stay tuned!

[@dhands100]

@@truckedupevs will do subscribing

[@ericwolff6059]

Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy reference?

[@truckedupevs]

Always!

[@peiguy1982]

What's your highway speed for efficiency? I usually stick between 96 to 100 km/h. Boring yes, annoying un huh, but good for road tripping. Even on the 110 divided highway.

[@truckedupevs]

110 is the killer. It's difficult to actually have a na accurate # due to the wind storms, but definitely around 31kwh/100 km. Since then I've been averaging 25~27, but most of the highways I've been on have average between 90~100, which as you note, makes a substantial difference. In Saskatchewan and Manitoba, until my little heat pump trick, i was barely able to squeeze out 390km from 100% to limping in the the charger. Through most of Ontario & Quebec, I'm hitting around 430-450km from 100%. Kep in mind almost all of this is primary and secondary highway. Back in BC, I exceeded the EPA consistently - but I imagine that will change in the winter :-)

[@peiguy1982]

@@truckedupevs Yeah I have 36k km on my 23 XLT SR and my average for the lifetime of the vehicle is 30 kwh/100 km. Do you know if the 24 has both heat pump and resistance heat? Would suit the extreme temps this winter better that way. Hopefully they didn't go all heat pump like Tesla. My forum search had mixed results for what Ford did with the heating. Electrify Canada will keep you going now once you are in the Maritimes, had you done this trip last year things would have been dicey here (especially in NS). Enjoy the journey!

[@truckedupevs]

@@peiguy1982 There's no resistance heater, but extreme temps are fine. The Vapour Injected heat Pump doesn't operate in the same manner as a home heat pump in that the management of heat variance is coming as much from an internal source (batteries) as it is from the outside temps. Thsi is why Teslas still keep good heat even here in Canada in the middle of winter. Ford's new design is a real marvel according to engineers who have looked into it,. Tehre's several online sources, including one or tow on KZbin if I recall that get into the meat of it.

[@peiguy1982]

@truckedupevs Yes I've heard of the heat scavenging before. Okay that's what they did interesting. Although I do think Teslas start dropping at under minus 25 ambient or lower. I figured Ford would have had a resistant back up. Does the heat scavenging not come from the motors as well?

[@MADAmechanical]

The Pas is pronounced "the Paw". I think I heard you say both ways in the video.

[@truckedupevs]

I hedged my bets 🙂

[@leroyharder4491]

I saved a young magpie once. Thrown out of the nest for probably a good reason. He was a complete $ss. Pecked visitors on the head as hard as he could, terrorized the neighbors. I remember him chasing the neighbor lady around her car. Appalled and laughing at the same time. He joined a magpie group, flew off and probably crossed the wrong human and disappeared. He had a magpie friend that was much more polite, had conversations with her. Not all magpies are horrible.

[@truckedupevs]

Sounds like most of my college alumni...

[@bradabernethy4234]

The ev truck ride was a great vid. Of note, kilometer rhymes with millimeter. Pronounced like Kilowatt and kilogram.

[@truckedupevs]

Thanks for the support, Brad! It's okay....I won't hold your accent against you 😉

[@jonnyroy]

42 hey!

[@truckedupevs]

Now - that's something one shouldn't ask without Deep Thought...

[@justinl2545]

Maybe next video you can recite some Vogon poetry.

[@truckedupevs]

"Oooh, flagrathethemob, how I footh thee!"

[@rolandjarrett611]

This quite interesting, I picked up a lightning flash last weekend and I have an Ioniq 5 (my 2nd hyundai ev). So my comparisons between the two are stark. Let's just say Ford could have spent a lot more time doing some home work.

[@truckedupevs]

That's fantastic that you have that insight. I imagine top of the list is the vast difference in charging speeds and curve rate. If you don't mind, I'd love to hear more.

[@rolandjarrett611]

I have a long list and will share at some point ​@truckedupevs

[@seumasmackinlay]

I think the Pan Galactic Gargle Blaster is served at The Restaurant at the End of the Universe...?

[@truckedupevs]

With a lemon and a brick...

[@michaelmackey754]

Great video! I noticed one of your comments you said oat milk lattes for the next week are you vegetarian or vegan?

[@truckedupevs]

I'm on a 'doctor-induced diet', so yeah...I live off bark & twigs.

[@RolfSchlup]

Now if we can only get our ordered Rivians delivered to this fine province. Been waiting for 5 years now....

[@truckedupevs]

Right!? Truthfully, I would be driving either a Rivian R1T or Silverado RST EV had the dealerships in my area actually tried using their brains - and if Rivian would wake up and realize that selling their vehicles only within their service centre radius won't help them - because every person with a Rivian is going to do what Rivian said they were built for: going into the back country and seeking adventure... Which is exactly where they'll break down - not in downtown Montreal or Vancouver 🙂 Open the floodgates, Rivian! We want our trucks!

[@RolfSchlup]

@@truckedupevs I've been pestering the Rivian Customer support folk with little to show for it. Not sure who to talk to

[@truckedupevs]

@@RolfSchlup Rivian sales are down. This is why. Until they change this dumb policy, they'll lose market.

[@captainofbluepearl]

👍

[@InternetDude]

It's pronounced "the paw" not "the pass" - I went there once back in 2007.

[@truckedupevs]

I used both to cover my bets 🤪

[@camrodger8638]

It is my understanding that there are two Tesla Supercharger sites planned for Winnipeg. Kildonan Place and Grant Park. I stand to be corrected.

[@truckedupevs]

That would certainly improve things. The bad news is that over 70% of EVs in Manitoba aren't Teslas, and few, if any, are NACS-adaptor-approved vehicles or have received theirs. Co-ops have been amazing across the country, but I was shocked to see so many out of order or faulting in the city with the Red River Co-ops. It's the one big hole in the province. Looks like things might be happening toward Thompson, and every other region is doing well.

[@andrewt9204]

I somewhat disagree about hotel charging not being part of the critical infrastructure. If I have to stay overnight anyway, I'd rather top up while I sleep vs heading to a fast charger and waiting 20-40 minutes. We definitely need both highway high power DCFC and 240V AC charging to make this work a lot more seamlessly. But IMO more AC and 25-50KW DC in every parking lot is almost more important at this point and time, at least in the US. If every hotel, restaurant/store/mall, hospital, etc. has cheaper to install AC or sub-50kW charging I would feel so much better road tripping around the country. Even on the tesla network I've run into issues. I mean, it would be cool if nearly every town had 20+ high power DCFC stalls that you could park at overnight and not tick everyone off, but that's expensive.

[@truckedupevs]

I keep hearing about road tripping or downtown living. If you're staying overnight at a hotel, sure. But to truly go head to head with ICE, this is about having a network for driving from one place to another without sitting for hours. Yes, plugging in when at work, at the gym, at the university are all important, and at the hotel when vacationing, but that isn't the normal use case. Everyone is in a rush, and won't even get out of their car & walk 30 feet to buy a Frappaccino. Level 2s are woefully inadequate in competing with conventional methods. I never said any hotel, mall hospital, etc should have anything other than a Level 2. DCFCs would be stupid, expensive and a waste for that application, but that's not addressing the biggest range challenge at all. Meeting deadlines, delivering goods, or having Trucked Up Coffee Stops that are delayed hours because of inadequate fast chargers en route (or none at all) is unacceptable in moving the needle forward. I stand by my rating, especially when other provinces are doing it brilliantly.

[@Jeddin]

Just keep your charge limit set to 100% on road trips. Theres almost never a reason not to just leave it there. If you come back to vehicle and disconnect at 80-90% for battery health. Fine. If you run late and it continues to charge past 90% great. ABC. Always be charging.

[@truckedupevs]

Actually, there's a lot of reasons to not leave it at 100% in regular use. I am often at different locations overnight when not doing crazy things like this trip, and I never want to charge to 100% for battery health. When at home, of course, that can be separate, but as is often the case, I don't want to be going outside in the middle of winter at 3am to unplug a level 2. That's the whole reason for having it. However, you are right. For trips that are over a period of time and range matters, just leaving it at 100% makes sense and is smart... that obviously didn't stop me :-) Lesson learned.

[@Jeddin]

@@truckedupevs at the end of the day do what makes you happy however for the sake of your mental health do not drive yourself crazy worrying about battery degradation from 100% SOC in cold weather as degradation in the cold is significantly reduced with 100% storage even up to 100 days. It barely increases degradation over the battery being at 80% stored at 20°C Battery degradation from 100% soc becomes a significant problem after the battery is stored at higher temperatures not in your cold canadian winters. Look up in Google the article “Derating Guidelines for Lithium-Ion Batteries” or refer to the youtube video EV Battery Health with Dr Jeff Dahn Dalhousie U time marker 45:28 that battery degradatiom reactions in the cold are virtually nil. At the end battery degradation is a chemical reaction. It needs heat to drive it.

[@Jeddin]

@@truckedupevs KZbin deleted my response due to the source material linkage. Basically what I’m saying is don’t worry about 100% battery storage degradation in cold temperatures as it is a chemical reaction does not occur in the cold. Refer to the KZbin video EV Battery Health with Dr Jeff Dahn Dalhousie U at 45 minutes and 28 seconds.

[@Bfranklyn731]

Just sayin, chevy electric silverado 2025 long range is 496 miles😮

[@truckedupevs]

Haha! Yeah, had an order for one of those...

[@KlemensEV]

I am at 520 miles with my 4WT…consistent. A firm 430-450 on the highway at 70+. What a difference from my Lightning SR…..I cannot wait for colder weather…

[@Bfranklyn731]

@@KlemensEV nice! 2025 getting a range boost , 496 epa rated!! Maybe 550 local driving!! That's what I plan on buying next summer but maybe the lower range truck due to financial restrictions 😆

[@KlemensEV]

@@Bfranklyn731just remember no EPA ratings on the 2025 yet….

[@Bfranklyn731]

@@KlemensEV maybe those were gm numbers I saw. But gm is usually accurate.

[@Longsnowsm]

The next time some @rsehat says "well it wasn't free, the taxpayers paid for it". Ask them when they are going to put up the toll booths on their local roads? You know, so the "tax payers" wouldn't have to pay for all those "free rides on their roads"... LOL That should shut them up. I don't care if it is paid or free, if the infrastructure is there people will come. That good will however does make an impact. And you told more people to come up and see those good folks. Cool trip. Serious pucker factor running on fumes like that! Been wanting to see the testing data on the new heat pump. Ford just announced they are putting the heat pump in the Mach-e for 2025. That potentially is a big deal.

[@andrewt9204]

Same with tax subsidies on oil/gas. If they argue that we need subsidies there, the return on investment on electrical infrastructure has a better payback. However I feel like once something is well established, we shouldn't be piling on these huge subsidies anyway. We shove billions to almost a trillion indirectly every year into big oil and its effects, all for a one time use product. We still need some subsidy of course to ensure critical transportation stays healthy, but that's a lot of taxes that could go back in our pockets or just move a fraction of that to smart electrical and charging infrastructure and we'd be set. That benefits everyone and would probably lead to cheaper electrical rates. I mean US taxes are insanely more complicated than that of course, but that's the general idea.

[@Longsnowsm]

@@andrewt9204 This subsidies game is a bad idea. People will freak out if they had to pay the actual price for that oil and gas without those subsidies. Gradually phase out the subsidies so people can adjust to the price shock and I think electricity is going to look a lot more attractive. For independent minded souls who want to produce their own electricity that is an option too. Can't really say that about oil and gas! LOL Maybe cook up some of your own alcohol for running vehicles might be a thing!

[@andrewt9204]

@@Longsnowsm because of my close proximity to my neighbor and their trees I can't use any meaningful solar. I have a couple 100 watt panels just for keeping a couple 12v lithium batteries topped up to charge my portable power stations and power a big inverter if I need to. My next house will definitely have provisions for having enough solar to charge my car.

[@charlesashurst1816]

I'm goin to Jackson in my electric ride We trekked the Tetons together. We took in the splendor of it all. Now we're headed back to Jackson, to recharge our electric car, yall. I’m goin to Jackson in my electric car. I’m goin to Jackson just like a movie star. When they laugh at you in Jackson and they say “Oh that’s tough luck,” they’ll lead you round town like a stolen hound towed behind a diesel truck. Go on to Jackson, you big woke flake. I’ll be waitin in Jackson. Eatin my cake. When I get into that city, people gonna straighten up and look. Now there's a man in his handsome cab and for a woke flake I mistook. I'm goin to Jackson I'm in my electric ride I'm goin to Jackson, got science on my side. Charles Ashurst 2023 9 23

[@charlesashurst1816]

performance of by the All Charlie Tabernacle Choir available on Soundcloud.

[@InternetDude]

Are you being paid by Ford to drive across the country? What is your real job or sponsor?

[@truckedupevs]

I wish. I have no current sponsor - although I'm working with a couple of parties that might be interested. KZbin requires any sponsored video to be disclosed or it gets demonetized or pulled. I sold my biz last year and currently hope to get this channel to a break-even point. As has been clear in many of my videos, I've been pretty hard on Ford when it screws up something. I'm no 'fanboy'. My next ev truck won't be a Ford.

[@InternetDude]

@@truckedupevs I have seen a few videos here and there by you. I am in Sask and watch EV videos because I've owned 3, so KZbin suggests your videos sometimes. I was wondering how you afford to do this trip, I know now.

[@InternetDude]

@@truckedupevs when you pass back through Sask, visit Lloyd at Superior Tech in Swift Current, he converted an old 80's Porsche to EV and has a Lightning and R1T. Also, in Maple Creek, visit Dylan at Maple Creek Stucco and Stone. He has at least one Lightning and new Silverado EV. He has installed a diesel heater for his Lightning in winter and absolutely uses his trucks for work on a daily basis. Towing, hauling, distances etc. Definitely worth getting I touch with both guys for a chat or even a little exposure of real life examples here in the prairies.

[@InternetDude]

@@truckedupevs I only have a Model S and RAV4 PHEV at the moment. If I needed a truck, hands down it would be the new Silverado EV.

[@truckedupevs]

That's my 1st choice for my next truck too.

[@GF-hh9qv]

When I take long road trips, I put my generator in box just in case, have not needed it to date, but zero range anxiety.2022 Lightning Lariat, and being from Manitoba I can always fish while I wait... Gone Fishing

[@truckedupevs]

Well, you might guess what's in the back of mine :-). Never used. Not once. Hasn't actually been fired up since I bought it (I should really do that). I'm doing a series of videos in the future on exactly that, and talking of the series hybrid concept and the DIY approach and the hope for a manufacturers' solution. Also one future-planned video involves a challenge with a buddy's diesel overlanding! Should be epic! Stay tuned!