Electric Viking's False Rant on F150 Lightning Debunked!

When it comes to EV trucks, the segment is often fighting an uphill battle to combat all the FUD and misinformation spewed out about them. What's worse is when a so-called pro-ev channel starts doing the same!
Electric Viking's Sam Evans is fast becoming a poor source for accurate news on EVs by not bothering to check sources before churning out a prolific amount of sometimes questionable content.
This week, the F-150 Lightning ended up in his cross hairs. Too bad almost ALL of his points are beyond misleading!
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[@electricviking]

As I said in the video, I love the F150 Lightning - I hope more people start buying it.

[@truckedupevs]

But all your content in this video is inaccurate, Sam. Are you going to leave it up? At least do a follow up and correct it. Let's celebrate these amazing times of having so many choices with evs, and now ev trucks. There's no need to bash a product or company that hasn't actually failed in the manner that you've claimed. Good luck with the channel. It's obvious you're doing very well, but put out more of this kind of misinformation and you start entering the 'Scotty Kilmer' zone. I suggest going back to your 'who am I" video from three years ago and ask whether or not you're still on that mission. Up until recently, I religiously watched your channel. Not so much anymore.

[@truckedupevs]

And by the way, more people ARE buying it.

[@brita654]

@@truckedupevs Scotty Kilmer?!?! 😂Now that’s some serious bashing🤣

[@truckedupevs]

@@brita654 Fair.

[@truckedupevs]

I did say 'if' he keeps putting out misinformation, he's walking toward that road. He's no Scotty Kilmer but this can be as dangerous for people considering ev trucks, especially the Lightning.

[@fromgermany271]

I heard from a very credible source (by listening to some of his videos) that the Viking is not the brightest boy in town. 😂

[@rolandjarrett611]

My experience of his channel has been very poor. I deleted it from my feed.

[@truckedupevs]

I keep subscribed just to hear what he's churning out, but it's getting worse. This latest is a prime example (well, 'latest' might be inaccurate; he's probably put out another five while I typed this...)

[@badwabbit1973]

all the facts were well hidden within Hunters laptop! or nestled within covid origins!

[@ryandoyle4344]

Left his channel b/c of blind reporting of foreign news sources

[@truckedupevs]

@@badwabbit1973 LMAO! Troublemaker!

[@badwabbit1973]

@@truckedupevs sometimes gotta have a memory and a past time,, was never into evs but steadly watching your reviews for the poorer folk !!!

[@TroySavary]

Tesla fans loves to point out the Lightning is not a ground up EV, but a converted ICE. So? As the specs show, the ground up Cybertruck performs no better. Plus, the Lightning has the advantage that most accessories for ICE F150s just fit and work.

[@EnriqueAThieleSolivan]

That is true. Ford is designing a new Ford Lighting platform that is designed for the foundation of the new Ford Lighting. IT will use less parts, reducing the manufacturing cost. Ford has a plan for the future. The and a good CEO on this difficult times. important thing is how long it will take to advance on ev manufacturing and production rate. Hope Ford does well. J F is a very honest man

[@mrlogboy]

I hate it when people say everybody or all. I know several KZbinrs who are mega Tesla fans that love the Ford 150 EV and when they compare it to the Cybertruck it comes out about even. The main difference is in these two vehicles are a persons choice and what one vehicle has the other vehicle doesn’t have vice versa and so for all the KZbinrs I watched they’ve all said that the this vehicle is an amazing vehicle. So all the major fan boys of Tesla walked on KZbin agree with you that the Cybertruck and the F150 are both amazing vehicle vehicles and some like aspects of one and the other and both have found flaws in both of them.

[@pan6593]

I think the thing about is that a non-bespoke EV platform is simply a half-assed approach, the result however can be-and in this case is- be really good nonetheless. The same applies for the BMW i4, which quite the same is also a hybrid/ICE platform - and yet performs great. However, it is indeed disappointing from a technical point of view, given how long electrical vehicles are and even more how long they could be on the market. It just shows lack of innovation and slow rate of adaptation.

[@truckedupevs]

Well said.

[@truckedupevs]

Good point. We need less of 'us vs. them' and more celebration of this amazing period of growth in adoption.

[@chriseberle8363]

Glad you put this video out. The numbers that Sam put out are flat out wrong.

[@truckedupevs]

I was very uncomfortable about putting it out, but this kind of, uh - 'content' - has to be called out. Thank you for supporting me.

[@joecushman6030]

The problem with Ford lighting Is the behavior of the dealerships. That’s awesome that they are reducing the carrying cost but they will still figure out a way to screw customers

[@truckedupevs]

CEO Farley I think is equally fed up with them, but keep in mind that many states that are supposedly 'pro free market capitalism' have protectionist state legislation that makes it illegal to sell a vehicle without it going through a dealership, which basically is the antithesis of capitalism and more a form of corporate welfare. Theses auto CEOs are screwed because they MUST sell their fleets through these buggers. It's a double edged sword. Many Teslas are still sold out-of-state because direct Tesla sales centres are not permitted. Same goes for Rivian and Lucid.

[@paulgoudfrooij6561]

I stopped watching the Electric Viking long ago because of things like this.

[@RideshareOtter]

The ElecVikn is a paid tesla shill. his grift is so blatant it's goofy.

[@SebastianScida]

Sadly I think he's doing it for free is a cult member

[@truckedupevs]

I don't think he or anyone else is paid by Tesla. Tesla is so bad it doesn't even have its own media or PR department. He's like many. Tesla has great positives, and has really moved the needle forward with the advancement of electrification of automobiles and forced the world to change - but that dog doesn't hunt anymore. Tesla has become a corporate representation of a vile, caustic, polarizing individual, and very little focus on the driver experience and benefits - with more almost exclusively on manufacturing simplicity to make more money (something every fanboy will point out, that all the 'other' ev makes are losing money, as if that matters regarding customer benefits). Rarely does a Tesla 'believer' acknowledge this - because they're in a cult. To start going against Tesla, the fans will roast you alive and you'll be excommunicated - expelled from the 'clan'. Just ask Ben Sullins or E For Electric. I think how Ben has re-invented himself and broken free from a Tesla-is-perfect narrative is a tough thing to do when your whole gig is wrapped around it. He did it. Few others will. I feel for Sam. He's going through a lot with his family right now, and he seems to be churning content to make more money - and it looks like it's working well for him. Too bad the quality of what he's pumping out is increasingly diminishing.

[@havnfunb4]

I agree 100%. Sam seems to want to pump out videos as quickly as possible and he is very pro Tesla I find lately. I take what he says with a grain of salt. Chevrolets numbers are going to ramp up with Equinox and Silverado EV’s

[@truckedupevs]

Equinox and Blazer numbers are already fantastic. In fact, I think GM just dethroned Ford this month. In Ontario & Quebec, there are Blazer and Equinox evs EVERYWHERE! I see more than Teslas. GM has a few winners in the can, I'm certain. Still drooling over that Silverado EV (but don't let Thor know!)

[@havnfunb4]

@@truckedupevs I convinced the wife to buy the 24 Equinox EV. I absolutely love that vehicle. Have my eye on the 25 Silverado EV LT

[@truckedupevs]

@@havnfunb4 You and me both!

[@EnriqueAThieleSolivan]

May they will sell 100,000 for each model for a total of 200,000. What does that mean? Only that the US is acepting ev trucks as a very good alternative wich is what Elon wants: to electrify not only the US but the world.

[@bobparry4575]

Thanks for doing this video. I have thought for quite awhile that "The Electric Viking" was a pompous, biased and basically not very well informed on what he was spinning. There are an amazing number of these so called Journalists out there. Not just in the EV world, just try and get accurate info on just about anything. The mainstream News Media seems to have given up on factual reporting, just see what is happening here in Canada with news reports on the two main political adversaries in this country. Spin, Spin

[@TroySavary]

Pompous is a good word. He is so smug about Tesla, as if driving one makes a person superior.

[@jonvelde5730]

The Electric Viking is not "mainstream media". So there's your problem. Sam is just a guy with a video camera, not an actual journalist. Its like getting your news from Phil down the street.

[@bobparry4575]

@@jonvelde5730 No I realize that he is not Main Stream, just a general comment on the state of information accuracy

[@truckedupevs]

@@jonvelde5730 Well said. I have a background in newspapers, editing, & publishing, but I am no journalist. I have a good understanding of editorial standards and I can say with confidence - almost no one purporting to be a 'reporter' or 'journalist' on KZbin is following them.

[@truckedupevs]

Misinformation of any type is hurting our communities and undermining our ability to debate among friends, to interact with other countries, and secure our children's futures. Denigrating one thing to prop up another lowers the bar rather than raising it, in my view. At the very least, I have an obligation as a content creator to call out falsehoods when I see them, I think ev trucks are an amazing breakthrough for transportation, and a pure joy to own and drive - but they're not perfect by any stretch. Critical dialogue is not only accepted, but encouraged on this channel. We can all get things wrong... But this isn't that. What do you think about this video? What are your thoughts on Sam Evans' content above? Let me know in the comments below. Be supportive or critical, but always respecting community guidelines and healthy debate. Thank you! I look forward to your comments!

[@darpompie4354]

Thank You for setting things straight. It's nice to see a content creator that actually fact checks their material rather than going after made up click bate BS just to get clicks. To profit by falsely damaging another company is immoral. I know Sam is going through some personal problems right now and probably has less time to fact check, but come on. Pumping out BS is not the right way of going at it. I use the watch Electric Vikings channel a lot but it's just become a Tesla fanboy site now and I hardly watch it anymore. Too bad, because he use to be more neutral and had some great videos. At least I can get my truck EV fix from your site now, keep up the great work!!

[@truckedupevs]

@@darpompie4354 Thanks Dar. I think the trauma his family is going through has only accelerated things. He seems hell-bent on churning out as much content per day as physically possible, and none of it is being verified first. Since his wife's diagnosis, it might be a hope to get more revenue? I don't know, but the number of times his videos have claimed a "game-changing battery revolution" followed by zero data and a field full of crickets is approaching epic proportions.

[@taragwendolyn]

Thank you for continuing to make informative videos. I think your experience crossing the country is doing a lot to counter the fud that's out there about EVs, and things will only get better from here

[@truckedupevs]

Tara, you are so awesome, and your ongoing support is a good boost when I wade into content like this. Thank you as always.

[@thomasrutledge1052]

We enjoy our Tesla here in Texas, but even though I’m retired I’ve always liked the F 150. Since last year I’ve decided to to keep an eye on a ‘24 or ‘25 Lightning Flash. I appreciate the feedback you gave me on this truck. I won’t be using it to work, but it would fit my lifestyle great. I want you to know that I support you 💯% on these topics . I think Sam also really likes the Chinese EVs also. Thank you so much for setting the record straight with actual research and data. Very refreshing to see that in your content. Keep them coming. 👍

[@truckedupevs]

@@thomasrutledge1052 Wow. Thank you Thomas. Al this support makes it so worthwhile.

[@taragwendolyn]

@@truckedupevs Can't wait to see the Ontario & Quebec videos... I saw that you had a meetup in Val d'Or, and I'm hoping that means you made it through La Vérendrye Wildlife Reserve - it should be a stunningly beautiful drive with the fall colours out. :) (and I'm secretly hoping you make it up to the Gaspesie, because that should also be gorgeous this time of year)

[@Mathingon]

Great video, always good to call out misinformation

[@truckedupevs]

Thank you for supporting me. Not my most comfortable type of video, but necessary sometimes.

[@aussiebaz5363]

I just unsubscribed "The Electric Viking". I've picked him up on things too, 20 posts a day, sucking up to Tesla and trashing their competition when convenient. What a shame. Damn I hate false information. His Musk bias had me wondering what subs he is getting. A sad state of affairs.

[@truckedupevs]

I think he needs to go back and watch his own intro video on himself from 3 years ago, his principles & values, and contemplate whether he is still meeting those intentions. No one can monitor that much content and provide good, unmanipulated 'news' in this day and age. I wish him well, but he's hindering, not helping his mission with poor content like this.

[@Derpy1969]

I unsubscribed him two years ago because he was the EV spammer.

[@aussiebaz5363]

@@truckedupevs Yes, I've been suspect for some time now, it's a business now, not an information site. His leaning to Tesla has me turning him off and now, after the light you have shon, I have unsubscribed. A pity, but like you say, the whole world is going down this path of bullshit. So very sad.

[@michaelcox6559]

Thank you for clarifying that, I had just watched Sam's rant yesterday and was.shocked by what he said. Keep up the good work

[@truckedupevs]

Thanks, will do!

[@ctfan1486]

Ive been thinking about a new F 150, v8 not ev, and check 5 different dealers to see what discounts were out there. And naturally the ev topic comes up. All the sales people i was with said they cant give ev's away. One said a good month would be 1 mach e leased. Probably comes down to local markes. California is supposed to be the biggest market.

[@ImLivinSD]

@ctfan1486 I live.down in SoCal and I have seen 1 or 2, You really have to be looking for them.

[@neiljohnson6815]

Electric Viking appears to be on Tesla's payroll. I no longer pay him any attention.

[@truckedupevs]

I wouldn't go that far, but he is definitely biased to that brand, and loves the Chinese automakers as well.

[@perrytalkkari4166]

Great information you provided. I actually watched the video in question. I’m glad I got the truth behind F150 lightnings. Good job

[@truckedupevs]

Thank you Perry!

[@perrytalkkari4166]

@@truckedupevs I’ve subscribed to your channel. I’m looking for reliable accurate information on EVs, before deciding to purchase one.

[@truckedupevs]

@@perrytalkkari4166 I really appreciate your support. Welcome aboard!

[@arecibo1974]

I purchased my 2023 ford lightning last year and this year I got my tesla model 3 2024. I don’t need anything else besides these two models. But I choose the lightning first over the Tesla because it accomplishes any possible thing that needs to be done. For the price, there’s nothing better. I will buy it again in a heartbeat.

[@truckedupevs]

I have good and bad views on the Lightning, as I've covered in my videos, but I do think the truck checks off the most boxes - currently - for an ev truck. That said, healthy criticism instead of blind brand loyalty is essential to making these products better. Worshipping one brand while incorrectly bashing another doesn't help with educating people on evs overall. I wish Sam well, and his channel is obviously far more successful than mine, but I hope he can prosper while ensuring what he is putting out is accurate.

[@arecibo1974]

@@truckedupevs I agree 100% with you. I tell everyone the good and the bad things of both vehicles but definitely the lightning is my favorite.

[@timothylynham107]

Thank you for clarifying Sam's misinformation. I've watched many of his videos over the past three years. I think he's a puppy mill that produces bumf about EVs. He makes his money by churning out sensationalized videos. Just watch how many times he uses the phrase "game-changer." I don't trust him anymore.

[@KingLutherQ]

It's only been a year since the Cybertruck started production and it is already the 3rd best selling EV in the US. Tesla has yet to scale the Cybertruck to its full production rate, and already it has outsold the Ford Lightning's total sales for 3 years. What is limiting Cybertruck sales is actually production rate (not demand). Tesla is selling Cybertrucks as fast as they make them with a wait time of one month. The Cybertruck is still in its early stage of ramping up, so, it's too early to judge the demand. For perspective, Tesla will produce a limited amount (50,000 units) this first year, but will quickly ramp up to an annual rate of 150,000 units by the end of next year when all the production kinks have been ironed out. But the fact that the Cybertruck has sold 27,000 units on its first year at a price of $90,000 (foundation series), actually hints that it will be selling like pancakes when the price is dropped to $60,000 next year. Really, you are the one who sound clueless.

[@johnnyquid-xj4kk]

Well said.

[@truckedupevs]

It has not outsold Lightning's total sales for 3 years. I am happy to debate any point and I welcome standing corrected, but please use accurate numbers. Ford sold 15,627 units in its first six months in 2022, much better than Cybertruck in its 1st six months, taking 9 months to sell 16k. Year to date only, Lightning has sold over 23,000 units and anticipated the last quarter will top this one at 7k. Ramp at Ford was slower due to challenges at the factory, but still has incressed sales year over year sonce inception. Also, the Lightning hasn't been out for 3 years. The first production vehicle sold in June, 2022. Tesla had a wait time originally of 4-5 years based on its preorders. That pent up demand has now been met by the looks of things, burinng through the preorders already and only a month wait is a poor sign of things to come. The first adopters are all done, and now the reality check on sales sets in. I think it will continue to do well, but nowhere near as well as originally anticipated (that is my opinion). Time will tell.

[@brita654]

​@@truckedupevs I Think that the price of gas is going to start being a problem for sales. It has dropped to about 285 here in mass. That combined with pre-orders/early adopter sales drop and environmental/climate denial are going to continue to be hurdles. It appears that the government has told big oil to go ahead and drill all you want and make your money now, even though it is contradictory to electrification of vehicles. And it appears that big oil is ready to go down with the ship because as energy suppliers for vehicles, they have not lifted a finger to enter the electrification of vehicles. At least to the naked eye, maybe they have divested behind the scenes. The good news is that Tesla has risen to big oil status or bigger and GM is making a BIG splash in electrification. How long can cheap gas continue? We are going to see the free market, take twists and turns. But in the end governments of the world will have to continue to acknowledge that electrification is far far less destructive than fossil fuels and continue to act on it. The F150 Lightning has a VERY bright future.....Why? Because its an F150 !!!!

[@NeilHarrison-p9h]

As an Ioniq 5 driver (Canadian) who has just driven from Southern Ontario to Vancouver Island ( with stops in between) and back , I have enjoyed your truthful and real-world assessment of the charging facilities across the country. I had already become a little suspicious of ‘ The Electric Viking’s’ presentations without any real information to go by. I was glad to have my suspicions confirmed!

[@truckedupevs]

That's on nice ride you have, and I envy your charging speed! Yeah, he seems almost exclusively negative of any brand other than Tesla and China made.

[@bowefamilyEV]

Great video. I would point out for the CT that it's the top selling EV over $100k and it is impressive that they are moving so many units at that price point. Time will tell if that increases as they drop the price and even perhaps can secure qualification for the federal tax incentives. Those 2m reservations (myself among them) was based on the original timeline, pricing and range so it's also not surprising so many canceled (or like me got the Lightning in 2022) for one or all those benchmarks falling short.

[@truckedupevs]

All great points. Thanks for the input!

[@charlesb4267]

I haven't really paid any attention to what stock of Ford Lightnings the dealers around here were stocking so I looked at the dealers in Grande Prairie ( which you were not far from ) and I see the larger dealer which has a huge fancy new building to complement their volume of vehicles they handle up in this part of Alberta, they have one Lightning on their lot currently which is listed as new but its a 2023 model which I find odd to see if the sales are on the rise. So then I looked at one of the Ford dealers in Edmonton and they had E Mustangs as well as a few Lightnings and again the age of them and the massive ( or at least in my mind ) discounts on the 2022 model year of up to 29000.00 and to even have a few 2022 model cars is a shocker. As to the Lightning, they even have a new 2022 model, a couple of 2023 models with 25000.00 discounts and three 2024 models with a lesser discount. My question is why would these dealerships still have 2022 and 2023 models if they are in such demand, and why the huge discounts and still they sit on the lot ?. They may very well be selling decently in some locations but I am not getting that vibe in central or northern Alberta that customers are too swift to buy them up.

[@truckedupevs]

Excellent point. I went to 3 dealership lots when I was on the road, and none of them had discounts on the windows of the Lightnings they had. However, I noticed a trend. When the Lightning first came out, there was a massive back-order. Ford started building factories to meet demand - and the dealers started drooling. Within months, both in Canada and the US, massive 'market adjustments' were glued on the MSRP, sometimes $50k above it. Furthermore, the vast # of pre-orders were for XLTs and the Pro. But the large profits were all in Lariats and Platinums. In 2022 & 2023, almost every single Lightning on dealer lots were the top trims, trying to exploit the demand. People walked in the tens of thousands, and demand crashed. Dealers were suddenly stuck with inventories of these things and started stripping off their mark-ups, but it was too late. Both Ford and the dealerships paid a significant price in self destructing their own product. But demand remained higher than most vehicles as far as year-over-year growth, despite them. In 2024, Ford rolled out the new Vapour Injected Heat Pump in all Lightning trims, making everything older far less efficient in winter. All of these factors have certainly had an effect, but the biggest is your neck of the woods. In central/north Alberta, municipalities have been noted as declining charging station applications from ev companies. Furthermore, municipalities like Cold Lake and High River are claiming they are losing thousands and pulling their chargers even though towns, cities and private companies are opening them up all over southern Alberta & the rest of Canada and making a profit. I'm not sure if these are the reasons for your area, but they certainly play a factor. The overall Canadian numbers a pretty clear. New vehicle registrations of ev trucks are up substantially from the previous year, and sales are only climbing. But North of Edmonton is an EV truck desert, for obvious reasons.

[@bobparry4575]

Here in Chilliwack there are no 2023's and have not been for months. The local dealer sells Lighnings as fast as they can get them. When ever I go out for a drive I see several Lightings every time. They are selling just fine here. You milage may vary be location.

[@charlesb4267]

@@truckedupevs I got that impression as well as per orders that were put in with all the impending excitement and then as they took so long to build and perhaps the reality that they were not going to get their truck charged for free like the Tesla or cheaper anyway, and that they came to realize their home service wasn't able to feed the power for a fast charge etc etc, interest would naturally fall back. The other day I was at a chev dealer in GP and in front of their building as its been build fairly recently, they had two chargers where customers park as they come and go as I was and no EV happened to be making use of them although that was just a snippet of time in the scheme of things so no idea what the GM theme is as per who can even use them. Speaking of that I had to laugh as per the Birch Hills County theme, that is not far from where I am and although I pay little attention to the charger, I have never happened to see a vehicle sitting there when I have passed by that parking lot although you obviously did make use of it. This summer has been a total mess in that little town with the main street ripped up ... long ago I used to drive through on that road to the grain elevators they since have torn down and the train has not gone through there in years. What you would not have realized is that even the two fuel stations that used to be in that town, they no longer exist so the residences of the town have to drive to Rycroft to fuel up, typical declining rural town. But anyway yes up in the Peace country its vast and on the sparse side population wise with a rural theme and the main industries are oil and gas and agriculture ( and forestry ). Very different from the more urban theme of better maintained roads and closer to fuel stations as well as more charging opportunities without the vast distances between them.

[@brita654]

@@truckedupevs Its a valid point about the heat pump because as a 2023 Lightning owner I have found myself with buyers envy that I dont have that and maybe should have waited a few months for the 2024. So its possibly true that people dont want the outdated model so there it sits. And when when the 2025 comes there will probably be another upgrade that will kick my ass lol....possibly the new charge port?

[@truckedupevs]

@@brita654 Don't feel bad. I had buyer's envy right after I bought the Flash, with Ford offering free home chargers and installs - and then GM rolled out the new Silverado LT trim and lowered the price on all the others. I've been kicked so hard in the soft spots, I'm starting to sound like Michael in a Thriller video....

[@davidlloyd1526]

I suspect that Electric Viking has a lot of shares in Tesla. As what he terms "legacy auto" build more EVs, his investments are probably going down.

[@truckedupevs]

I won't speculate myself as that would have me doing what I'm pointing out :-), but he is a fan, no doubt.

[@pstoneking3418]

As far as charging goes, I'm a firm believer that heat is detrimental to all lithium batteries. When you DC charge, your battery gets hotter than when it's slow charged. I bought mine to use locally so i charge at home.

[@jimmckinley8110]

I was surprised to see this Electric Viking video. I own a Lightning and I love it! Thanks for the debunk.

[@truckedupevs]

Glad you appreciated it. Thank you for watching!

[@sennewald]

New sub from Germany. First vid I have seen from you - amazing high quality content you are putting out. Thank you so much for that! (I also watch the Electric Viking - but it is obvious he is constantly pushing it too far and has no time for proper research, considering the amount of videos, BUT he has a very said family thing going on so I am generous and forgiving and wish him and his family all the best in the world)

[@truckedupevs]

Thank you so much for the support. Sam is under incredibly stress and I think he is doing this almost exclusively for his family. But he can't profess to being an 'ev journalist' or reporter without checking his sources. His channel has basically becoming a bit of a video mill, and that's not helping his cause long term.

[@sennewald]

@@truckedupevs I totally agree with you. Still and apart from that I feel very sorry his family. It was very important that you made things clear. As a consequence he should delete or mark wrong stuff.

[@cariaddrums]

Good video. I watch the sam evans vid and instantly thought ' this is odd' He will loose trust very quickly.

[@truckedupevs]

Thanks for the support. Yeah, I'm seeing lot more of this. Not good.

[@KaiPonte]

Good video! I see one or two F150 Lightning trucks daily here in Los Angeles. I do also see at least one Cybertruck on the road. Nice to see more EV's.

[@truckedupevs]

Thanks for the support! I agree. It's a pleasure to finally see so much choice.

[@WhizBack]

Keep up the good work. I am sick of misinformation coming from all sides (on more than just EV's of course). I've had an EV since 2018 and sure, back then there was a learning curve... mostly learning that range anxiety is not so much a thing once you actually have an EV. For around town driving, never having to even thing about range, fuel, or anything else, and never having to see the inside of a gas station unless I want some beef jerky, far outweighs any additional planning needed for the occasional road trip. Oh and not dropping $100 for a fill every week or so also helps. Within the first 2 weeks, I knew I would never go back to a gas car again. Anyway, I know this kind of video sucks your personal time, but I'm really glad you made it and did a great job to boot. Thanks!

[@truckedupevs]

That's exactly how I feel. I really appreciate the support, and yeah - not my 'focus' video, but necessary sometimes. Keep in touch!

[@cwqrpportable]

Wow, thank you very much for putting out this video to fact check some channels like Electric Viking. Please, keep up the good work. I’m in aN F150 Powerboost hybrid right now but can see me going electric eventually. Curious to see Ford’s T3.

[@truckedupevs]

Thank you for your support! It's great to hear you're exploring the transition to electric. Ford's T3 is definitely something to keep an eye on!

[@dgmcdnld]

just curious are the sales numbers to dealers or end user customers? I own Tesla and the Lightning and they are both pretty good for different reasons.

[@truckedupevs]

This a common question and a good one. Please forgive me for the cut-and-paste, but I want to reply to everyone: "It's a good point but not that much of a factor. If we look at length of days of inventory held, and insurance registrations in the us, the number might be back a month each quarter but it washes out close to even, which is pretty good being that inventories of ICE vehicles, especially at companies like Stellantis, are piling up."

[@johnbeaule3393]

How was the charging in Northern Ontario? Are you still making videos of your trip?

[@truckedupevs]

Yes, I am John. Stay tuned! I can only manage one video per week while still managing to drive, shoot, do b-roll, work post-production, thumbnails, remain married, and plan the next route and Stops - hehe. Ontario was a gas! (Pun intended 😉 )

[@Jeddin]

Sam doesn’t intentionally spread FUD. In fact he’s very pro EV. It’s just that he simply reposts articles he comes across as a video summary without any independent research into the subject (5th grade level school report level of work and understanding)

[@truckedupevs]

That sounds about right. Thanks for the clarification!

[@tannermcnabb4836]

I should also add.....and this may be anecdotal, but they've seemed to be selling quite quickly the last 3-5 weeks. For quite a while before then, it seemed there was a decent amount of inventory on lots. The last 3-5 weeks I've actually been trying to test drive them or work out deals, it seems over half the stock on most dealers' websites is already spoken for. I had 3 trucks from 3 different dealers get sold from under me while going back and forth on pricing, options, accessories, etc. Be interesting to see what q4 actual sales looks like for them.

[@Boomtendo4tw]

I used to think Cybertruck is neat looking but I've come around to finding it ugly. It's narrow and tall looking and looks unfinished without paint or a wrap. With a wrap it looks so much better. I still think Silverado is the best ev truck available

[@truckedupevs]

I kind of agree with both of your assessments. I can believe how many Tesla fans conveniently overlook the butchering g of Franz's original design, which was more shark-like. Now it looks like a metal pug.

[@brita654]

I have seen a couple CT in jet black and they look much better than stainless. Much better…..but not better than my Lightning

[@truckedupevs]

@@brita654 Haha! Yeah, when they're wrapped some of them look pretty sweet.

[@daveyboomboom]

Ouch!!!

[@truckedupevs]

I have to call it like I see it.

[@ianburton5624]

This is the first time seeing your channel, and I subscribed right away. I’ll be doing some catching up this weekend. BTW if you are on a cross Canada tour right now when do you think you will hit the Maritimes?

[@truckedupevs]

I'm currently in Muncton. Thanks so much for the sub!

[@truckedupevs]

Where are you?

[@ianburton5624]

I’m in Bedford, just outside Halifax.

[@truckedupevs]

I'll be in Halifax in the next several days. I'll post my Stops tomorrow evening on FB and YT community page. Come by for a cup of Joe!

[@Kevbo380]

Trucked Up Community Notes!

[@truckedupevs]

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[@Kevbo380]

Twitter thing… 😂

[@truckedupevs]

HA! I hadn't even thought of that!

[@chrisspanswick7312]

Brilliant piece of detective work. The FUD is leaking out to the general public. Thanks for challenging it.👍

[@truckedupevs]

It's not all roses for the Lightning though. Ford just halted production until January. That's like 10+ weeks - because they're not getting themselves out of the hole it's in selling at massive losses. 100% sales gains per year are all fine and dandy, but Ford likely needs 400% per year to make the bird sing - and they're not even close. It's a bit of a shock that Ford is so far underwater when other ev makers - including GM - are starting to break even or at least get close, especially when much of the Lightning parts chain came from the ICE F150 bin. It has me somewhat perplexed, actually. I'll be doing a video on that when I'm back. Still, facts are critical, whether it's good, bad or ugly for the ev truck segment. I really am grateful for your support, Chris. Won't forget it.

[@loriw2661]

I’ve had my 2023 Lightening XLT for 8 months now and I absolutely love it!! I’ve had 4 ICE F150’s, an Explorer & and Expedition. My Lightening is by far, the best truck I’ve ever had. It’s fast, it rides beautifully, has tons of storage, quiet, amazing A/C and just plain fun to drive. Highly recommend!!

[@truckedupevs]

It's just a no-go to ever go back once we've owned an ev truck. Thanks for sharing your experience!

[@BrianMichael-k6d]

The Electric Viking is clearly an investor in Tesla. This effects his bias on EVs.

[@truckedupevs]

I do my best not to speculate, but he is a 'believer', that's for certain.

[@ekaddo]

yeah, i have 70,000 miles on my '22 Lightning Lariat ER and Electrify America plan. Overall I've had a good experience and this is my 1st EV but 7th F150. Love my Lightning.

[@truckedupevs]

Nice! Thanks for commenting!

[@tannermcnabb4836]

Ordered our lightning just this week, and are taking delivery in about a week...i guess from your video that its from one of these regional centers. Thanjs for clarifying the incentive thing and showing the real sales figures. It does impact potential buyers, myself included, to hear info as it was being presented

[@truckedupevs]

Congrats, Tanner! Did you end up going with the Flash? I think it's due time for a BC/Kootenay EV truck BBQ (although I have to eat the veggie wieners...)!

[@tannermcnabb4836]

@@truckedupevs we did yup 👍. Oxford white, with the max tow, 9.6kw, and the factory AT tires on it. Honestly coulda done without the factory AT tires as I'm a tad worried about the increased rolling resistance on highway/towing trips but we'll cross that bridge when we get there. Spray in bedliner, some basic splash guards, and that's that! Just have to build it a prefab shelter/carport now before full on winter ❄️

[@truckedupevs]

@@tannermcnabb4836 Congrats!

[@andrewt9204]

Charging performance is my biggest complaint of the lightning. It's why I dont have one. I wouldnt drive outside the daily range every day, but enough that it is an issue.

[@truckedupevs]

It's not the best, but since I've driven a LOT in both the standard and extended range models now, I can say that if charging up at home overnight and then going on the road more than the maximum range, the best thing is hitting a +150kw fast charger for 20 minutes and jacking the truck up to 60~80% from 20~30% in around 20 minutes, then moving on. That first 'ramp' has a boost period where I'm charging at around 180kw. That's not blistering fast, but it's not slow. The Silverado EV is lightning fast (hehe) at 350kw, and can go almost the same distance on a charge as an ICE truck ca on a tank. It's the on area Ford could improve upon, fro certain. Thanks for the great comment!

[@andrewt9204]

@@truckedupevs Well, I live in rural MN and drive all over the state, so range is a concern around here, as is the extreme cold range loss. My Model 3 LR does ok, but I still can't get to the northern border, at least in the winter time. What I actually want is a plug-in-hybrid F150, or Ranger. I hate to go back to gas, but I think in a hybrid I would be OK with that minimal gas use. Especially if it has like ~150mi battery range for majority of my commutes. Then just a simple non-turbo little 3-cylinder 30-40Kw generator to keep it going down the road. Would also be great to use it as an ice house generator for when I'm fishing on lake of the woods.

[@dmmartinez9]

Electric Viking will lie to his viewers for his own gains out of both sides of his mouth.

[@truckedupevs]

That seems to be a developing theme. I think it's more about him trying to drive revenue? Pumping out as many attention-grabbing headlines as he can find - and it seems to be working. He's become a bit of a video 'puppy mill'.

[@Stan-at-KangarooIslandTV]

Good on you for setting the record straight. I don't watch that other channel as it's no good.

[@truckedupevs]

Thanks Stan! He does manage to unearth a LOT of stuff that sometimes slips under the radar, and he's one heck of a hard worker. But a bare minimum of research is essential. Thanks for chiming in! And based on name alone, I've GOT to go check out your channel! Keep in touch!

[@truckedupevs]

My bad! I completely forgot about your Polestar adventures! I've visited a few times and liked your content. New subscriber!

[@brendykes1202]

Sam lost all credibility some months ago when he promised to delete his channel if Tesla was having layoffs. They were and he didn’t. He never even apologized or acknowledged his mistake. Also: 90% of his videos claim something is a “game changer”. I don’t think he knows what the game is anymore except for KZbin grifting.

[@mmmclay]

Really enjoyed the serious conversation in this video & it pushed me to subscribe, please make more videos like these. Appreciate your honest take, backing yourself up with sources & the education on EV trucks.

[@truckedupevs]

Thank you! Will do!

[@codycouch]

Just purchased a Flash today and love the truck. My only disappointment is no “phone as key” on the flash or garage door opener. I guess I didn’t do my research. I came from the Mach E GTPE. I can’t believe those aren’t standard. You can’t build a vehicle reputation on technology and not offer “phone as key”. I’ll get over it because the vehicle is amazing and I love it much more than my GTPE.

[@truckedupevs]

Congrats! Actually, it was a pretty low move by Ford. It wasn't always that way. They took a pile of FordPass features and rather than making it ubiquitous for all trims, it restricted those features to the Lariat and Platinum. Pretty shortsighted and cheap if you ask me.

[@truckedupevs]

If enough owners call in and let Ford know how displeased their loyal buyers are, it might reinstall them on all trims.

[@khoatran9482]

Stopped watching Viking dude a long time ago. Dude straight up Tesla stock owner no doubt about it.

[@Ken-m3c]

I love my F150 lightning. I have had it about two months. It is very quiet, very fast , comfortable ride and spacious. I think sales will take off once more people test drive one.

[@truckedupevs]

Thanks for sharing. The good news is every quarter is a sales record above the year prior - and it's accelerating, which is why FUD clickbait videos like these are all the more frustrating.

[@pstoneking3418]

I imagine the cybertruck is a quality truck. When I bought my lightning, one of the pluses was that it looked like a regular truck. I love science fiction movies, but I don't want a truck that looks like it belongs in one of those movies.

[@truckedupevs]

I agree.

[@davidbruns1471]

The Ford lightning is by far the better choice for most people…!

[@truckedupevs]

Choice is so important. It all depends on the application. What is awesome is we have the ability to now go out and really SHOP for an ev truck, and more is on the way. It's just great for the consumer overall. Thanks for the comment, David!

[@pgiatrakis]

Thanks for your hard work and objectivity, I appreciate your take on Electric ⚡️ Viking. I personally have 3 Cybertrucks on order and I’m waiting for the same price and specifications promised. I will probably wait a very long time, maybe forever. I love the idea of a stainless steel shell vehicle. That being said I think the F150 lightning is a better vehicle in many ways and the Silverado EV too. I’ve been watching electric ⚡️ Viking for years now and he doesn’t really show or indicate a hit piece kind of channel. If he’s spreading FUD then it’s through his neglect. He loves EVs and dislikes hybrids and plug-in hybrids. His information usually checks out. He does seem to dislike Ford. I go to his channel for solar, wind, battery and Tesla news and don’t watch his reporting on the EV competition because I think it’s destructive to EVs in general ( yet helpful at times) but mostly reporting on the shortcomings of GM or Ford IS JUST BORING. Personally I think the objective is to make a comparable EV to Tesla at a profit and eventually a profit that can allow the company to sustain itself. The lightning is better but is it’s manufacturing sustainable to turn a profit? If your right about electric Viking it’s seems he is suffering from a little confirmation bias. In a world full of irrational biased Ford lovers and irrational biased EV haters and a world full of irrational biased diesel lovers it stands to reason why his little voice leans towards an unfavorable view towards Ford. If true he’s probably barking up the wrong tree because we need to help everybody to make the transition to electrified vehicles. Just my opinion and thanks for your wonderful channel 👍👍👍😀✌️

[@truckedupevs]

What a great and thoughtful comment! I think he's under a lot of pressure with so many personal things going on, especially with his wife, but I have noticed he seems to be trying to pump out as much content as possible, often putting out 2~3 videos per day! At that rate, it simply isn't possible to back-check sources. It shows in how he will produce a video 10 minutes long saying what could be said in 30 seconds. That's stretching the video to get more favourable algorithms. I've watched his channel since he launched it about 3 years ago, but things have slipped toward supporting one brand and bashing others vs. advancing clean tech and vehicles. I sincerely hope he goes back and watches his original "who am I?' video from 3 years ago and refocus on the channel's principles because he is a good guy t heart, it seems.

[@garywright8758]

Cybertruck is still ramping...but yes, they need to drop their prices. Their 500 mile range was bullshit...I think that pissed off a bunch of buyers. Plus the $7500 tax credit, is still not guaranteed..

[@EnriqueAThieleSolivan]

True. Most people unrealistically believed a $50K (or was it$40K?)in 2024. I was in Road atlanta about a 2 weeks ago. There was a Chevy silverado with a MSRP of 96K. It has a 12v architecture, many computers, does not have OTA updates, no steering by wired. That Tesla can include 48V architecture, and ethernet routing of signals, with steering by wire and a few other advances features for just 80K (foundation series is over) is just amazing. Price at $80K will drop with better batteries (new batteries always cost less), with the reduction in cost achieved by mass production (that means at leas a production rate of 250,000 per year. The Chevy Silverado ev is a magnificent truck also. I have not seen the Ford but reviews say it is also very good too.

[@GoodyLindley]

rare to find this much honesty - thank you. And thank you for having the courage to call out FUD.

[@truckedupevs]

Not something that I'm comfortable with, but somebody's gotta do it..

[@GoodyLindley]

@@truckedupevs 😍

[@markjohnston7285]

I own a 2023 lightning and I absolutely love it. Best vehicle i have ever driven and I will never go back to gas. It was also the best financial decision I have ever made. 40000kms and not a single significant issue. 1 minor recall and that’s it. Oh I changed my washer fluid a few times.

[@stanwilliamson2812]

@@markjohnston7285 you must not venture very far from home.

[@truckedupevs]

Haha! Exactly, Mark. I can't tell you how many business owners have made the switch for the very same reason. I'm hopinh to interview a few in the coming months.

[@ElMistroFeroz]

Yeah we get enough FUD from people who feel threatened by the EV industry so we don't need any from "our own".

[@truckedupevs]

Exactly.

[@zoulourichard]

Welcome to Québec! We spoke before about off roading with the Ford Lightning. Well, I did it this summer to my hunting camp and came back with flying colors! (With my ATV in the bed). I would share images and video with you if i could.

[@truckedupevs]

That's awesome! Send them over to my email. [e-mail]

[@colincameron6263]

I deleted him ages ago when i realized he was just a Tesla cult follower.

[@jarrodf_]

Sam (Electric Viking) is a shameless Tesla pumper. I commented on Sam's ludicrous F150 video, too: 'From year-to-date Sep 2024, Ford sold 22,807 F-150 Lightning EVs, an increase of 86% year-over-year. Ford is the second best-selling EV brand in the US in 2024, with sales figures up 45% YTD Sep 2024. US EV sales were up 11% across all brands YTD Sep 2024. Tesla EV sales declined -2% YTD Sep 2024.'

[@mrlogboy]

Well, mr Australia goal has been reached. When anybody puts anything on KZbin we’re hoping to get lots of views and what better way to get lots of views than a controversial topic and misinformation. lol thank you for your help and clearing up the chaos

[@truckedupevs]

LMAO! That seems to be the game plan in this day and age. Thank you for your support!

[@cadamwil]

I watched one of that dudes videos and liked it then another popped up and I blocked his channel after watching it. I could tell he was willing to play fast and loose with the truth to get clicks. Thanks for calling him out.

[@truckedupevs]

Thanks for supporting me!

[@BrianMichael-k6d]

Good video. It is nice to see someone show their sources.

[@truckedupevs]

Thanks Brian!

[@truckedupevs]

If someone claims something, they better back it up.

[@MegaHops1]

The incentives are excellent, but are they making any money from the Lightning?

[@truckedupevs]

No, Ford isn't. But with that said, they're constantly bringing their losses down. Ford expects to break even on their ev division by 2025. That's a tall order for a legacy auto company. We'll find out soon enough if they're successful. Great question.

[@MegaHops1]

@@truckedupevsI hope they get it done. I own a 23 XLT ER, the best Ford product I've ever owned. I don't see myself owning ICE.

[@brita654]

@@MegaHops1Same here. 2023 XLT ER and hope I’m done with ice

[@mcZED38]

Nice video. I've always found the Viking more pro China and BYD than Tesla. I wish your video had discussed more "meat and details" of financial numbers for all of these manufacturers regarding EV sales. Are all of these lightning's being sold at profit? What impact are import regulations on battery components having on costs, if any? Anybody can sell a gazillion widgets but if sales are at a loss it's not sustainable.

[@truckedupevs]

That would make for a great video! I think you've inspired me :-). It will have to wait until I'm back from this crazy Canada-wide tour, but if you like, send me a reminder to [e-mail] in about a month and I promise I'll dig into that very topic. Thanks for the great feedback!

[@berndkahlau9770]

He’s bashing everything German as well and it seems he is a Tesla boy all along

[@humanresources3545]

Things change over time. I'm not sure what information Sam had at the time. Ford recently dramatically dropped the price of the Lightning which boosted their sales considerably.

[@brita654]

I also liked how you pointed out that Ford has been selling Lightning for 2 yrs already. It’s kinda like phones unfortunately. Every yr there’s newer better more advanced models. But I can’t afford a new EV every yr so presently my lightning is the original iPhone but still performs very well. Yeah that Chevy is better(not too fond of the Triangle as much) but I also paid like 40k less……. THATS FORTY THOUSAND DOLLARS!!!! Woah

[@truckedupevs]

Exactly how I feel. On the sales side too, Ford and its dealership networks really killed the sale of the Lightning from launch to end of 2023 by milking the demand, but I think they've learned their lessons (well, maybe not the dealerships), and sales are now picking up significantly. The new RCC distribution concept is pretty smart and serves the customer well. Farley is trying to move as a close as possible to Tesla's direct sales model as he can get away with, in my view. And yeah, that number you just quoted is one of the most powerful reasons why a Flash is in my driveway!

[@downix]

A small note; the Model 3 also had a refresh. That should drive an increase in sales as well as the incentives. As for Sam saying that the Lightning sold under 3k, the line right above it, the e-transit, was just under 3k. Perhaps he looked at the wrong line on that same chart you were looking at? As for the Cybertruck sales, what needs to be kept in mind is that the sales were fulfilment for preorders, some of which were done years ago. Now that those preorders are fulfilled, this is where we will see the Cybertruck demand numbers.

[@truckedupevs]

Sam has now commented and made no apology, retraction, or correction (I pinned it, and then responded) Your points are bang on, 100%. I didn't want to go down that road or I'd be called out as 'anti Tesla', but yeah, those notes are accurate. Cybertruck should do great. I hope it does. But facts matter. I am thrilled we all have ev choices - a lot of them - for the first time in history. That's something to celebrate, and I hope people will buy what works for them.

[@andrewpalmer9634]

As ex continental hgv driver from Britain,We need correct information We need this transition if not for the planet ,for our children !!Great content Love your trip around Canada !! I Believe within a very short time we could do all goods delivery's with Batteriey vehicles if the Tesla Semi holds up to Scrutiny!!?? We need the truth spoken there are plenty of F U.D artists !! ❤ from the other side of the pond

[@brita654]

Right on! So many people overlook the concept of our kids world

[@hamiltonasseiro6671]

The Electric Viking is an EV fan boy. Only that.

[@FermeRagnaruches]

Welcome to Quebec. If you intend on passing through Quebec's north shore (la Côte-Nord) by road 138, you can stop by my meadery! I also have a Lightning that's used for my beekeeping activities and so on. (Now I'll watch the video)

[@truckedupevs]

I'm already in Nova Scotia, heading up Cape Breton Island tomorrow. I would have loved to have come out! I'm now out of time. I have to head back very quickly to get back in BC by a certain deadline, but I am coming back out in early summer, 2025 to film a journey across Newfoundland Labrador. I also have a man who uses his Lightning off grid in Ontario and has an interesting story to tell. It would be wonderful to do a feature on you when I come out to do that. Could you email me at [e-mail] if that sounds like an interesting idea to you? Thank you for reaching out!

[@benjamindbarr]

It is October as well, when everyone knows it's the best time to buy a new current year model of anything because they are trying to make room for the next year's model.

[@truckedupevs]

Good point.

[@Skotty64081]

There's an upsetting large amount of BS in public media. It's upsetting in part because I believe most of it is intentional and in bad faith, and that really pisses me off.

[@MindofMatter]

You just got a new sub. Never seen this channel before but my buddy sent me this video. Great job

[@truckedupevs]

Thanks for coming along for the ride! I really appreciate the support.

[@Josh-179]

It seems like Lightning naysayers (not Sam necessarily as he does like the truck) are forgetting how full size ICE trucks regularly put like $10K on the hood on average to sell. Particularly before Covid. This went on for years well before these trucks got crazy expensive. No one said ICE F-150's and Silverado's were failing.

[@truckedupevs]

Great point, Josh! Thanks for chiming in.

[@Bonta768]

Oh noes! TU EVs I love your vids and I love Electric Vikings vids. Yeah Sam made a mistake and should have back checked more, but I don't believe malicious intent. Bad info is not his habit. Thankyou for the truth and much more details.

[@truckedupevs]

I think he's overworking himself and putting out too much content to the point where he can't do due diligence to ensure what he is uploading to YT is accurate. This isn't his 1st video that as been horribly inaccurate lately - and that's okay. We can get information wrong. But deleting comments and not correcting it once it is pointed out is another matter. I think he and I have a similar mission of moving the needle forward on sustainable travel and energy. I just think he's losing sight of his original intentions a little bit by doing a lot more attacks on brands rather than celebrating all the good that having this massive ev variety available to consumers does. I wish Sam all the best.

[@taxman121]

Great job with the response to misinformation! Love my 2024 Flash!

[@truckedupevs]

Thanks, and appreciate your support!

[@alosman7121]

I respect both of you I wonder if you have reached to him before you posted your video

[@truckedupevs]

Sam has a habit of deleting or not responding when challenged on his videos. I did exactly that, pointing out that his video was not correct No response, so I proceeded with the video. He can now respond if he so chooses. It is up to the content creator to back check their output. He's not doing that.

[@skylershank9309]

I've been commenting on the Viking's inaccurate statements for months on his channel. With no replies. Which is no surprise. Glad others besides myself are concerned about his 'standards.'

[@truckedupevs]

I've had a lot of comments that I should have reached out first.I did. But why? He's churning out videos at a crazy rapid rate with no checks and balances. That's on him to respond, but like you said, he never does, or just deletes posts he doesn't like.

[@roberturen8569]

I stopped listening to the electric Viking a long time ago because of this very issue. He does this all the time. Great job on exposing this

[@truckedupevs]

Thank you Robert! Glad I'm not alone.

[@brucedunham1463]

Cybertruck is just butt ugly! When I first saw it, I thought it was an April fools joke.

[@truckedupevs]

At first I didn't mind it. But I can't believe that no Tesla YT channel has commented on how the final version is a complete bastardization of Franz's original design. I know what you're thinking, "WTF?? Design? It's a freakin' triangle!" Yes, but take a look at shots of the original: Long, aggressive trunk, wide, angled sloping side with slight curve giving a bit of a shark feel, aggressive stance, impressive clearance, and brilliant truck and range specs... ALL gone. Now it looks like a triangular pug dog or pot belly pig. And none of the specs were achieved. Not one (PLUG: I did a video way back on it here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/oZaylHmQltabm7s)

[@pstoneking3418]

At central Illinois Ford dealerships, the lightnings are selling as fast as they appear at the dealerships.

[@truckedupevs]

Even though most of Sam's statements were false, Ford did just halt production at Baton Rouge for a total of 8 weeks. It seems to be they are over supplied. I imagine their overall q4 final will far exceed 2023, but Ford needs more than 100% sales increase y-o-y; they need exponential movement to offset their massive new factory build & R&D/Skunkworks costs. They now have been told loud and clear that truck buyers won;t tolerate dealer exploitation and 'market adjustments' and the pricing now reflects the sweet zone. Ford will manage its way up, and we'll keep seeing starts and stops like this until the T3 roll-out, I'm guessing. But ev trucks are going nowhere but up in every segment by every manufacturer. As reviewers keep saying, It's the overall best value truck out there, ev or otherwise. Tghanks always for the excellent insight and comments!

[@brandonv8721]

Wish the Lightning had slightly better charging performance. I don't drive much, but i do make a few 2k mile round trips each year through middle of nowhere. Probably ending up with a Sierra EV

[@truckedupevs]

The 2 GM products are outstanding for range and charging speeds, the two areas where the Lightning doesn't keep pace. Of course, I've just driven 15,000km and I'll double that before returning, and it hasn't been an issue. Keep in mind that to get those charging speeds you need reliable DCFCs that can deliver 250+kw speeds. The Lightning 'boosts' to about 180kw for about 8~10 minutes before slowing to the 120~150kw range, just like all ev SOC curve cycles. However, GM can hold at the fastest for longer, but also has twice the amount of batteries, so your wait times won't necessarily improve all that much. All a good thought exercise before buying. Silverado EV and Lightning were top of my list.

[@brandonv8721]

@@truckedupevs the GM twins aren't getting much worse efficiency, so they are still getting more "miles" per min of charging assuming your charger can support. I believe the GM twins are doing that high speed charging at a still reasonably low C rate and i can keep the battery much lower % charge rate day to day. This does come at a cost in weight and money. I do think the lightening has a better cabin, less complicated suspension, is quieter, and probably a better day to day vehicle. It also takes F150 parts and aftermarket so it will probably be supported longer. The F150 frunk is so big. It should have most bugs worked out at its current stage.

[@truckedupevs]

@@brandonv8721 Nicely said, Brandon.

[@greenenergi9427]

Love this video. Thank you for getting the facts straight. I’m excited to watch your next video.

[@truckedupevs]

Thanks for the support & feedback!

[@gardoni]

Of those 7k sales, how many get to customers? Or are those sales to dealers?

[@truckedupevs]

It's a good point but not that much of a factor. If we look at length of days of inventory held, and insurance registrations in the us, the number might be back a month each quarter but it washes out close to even, which is pretty good being that inventories of ICE vehicles, especially at companies like Stellantis, are piling up.

[@Molishious]

Tesla went pretty quickly from offering their $80,000 Cybertruck only to reservation holders to having it available to anyone. Seems like they went through the reservation list quickly. It’s hard for me to be subjective as the Cybertruck doesn’t appeal to me but I do wonder what the true market for it will be. Right now the trucks I see rolling down the road cost the drivers at least 100 grand and it amazes anyone would pay that. It’s fascinating to see it play out.

[@EnriqueAThieleSolivan]

Even with the Foundation series high price, Tesla will not maker a profit until at least 7 more months. Elon himself declared it need to ramp for 18 month for the CT to start making money. The CT is a bet on the future. Price will go down with new batteries and increased manufacturing rate. Tesla jusyt added FSD supervised to it.

[@raimonddeieso7433]

Oh the Viking, never found hid info information credible, he is just a Tesla fan boy, he is on the cool aid big time from Tesla.

[@sesmeltz1965]

Thanks for this! I’ve taken issue with plenty of Sam’s videos. I’m thrilled there are so many great electric trucks out there! I love my Sierra EV and hope everyone else is enjoying theirs. I don’t get why these guys feel the need to lie in order to belittle their competition. We have enough of that from the braindead anti-EV types. The CT would be my absolute last choice, but I’m not making stuff up to undermine it either.

[@truckedupevs]

Thanks for the support, and congrats on what I consider one of the most beautiful (and capable) ev trucks on the road. Keep in touch, and email me some pics of that sweet ride!

[@humanresources3545]

Do you get 440 miles out of it?

[@sesmeltz1965]

@@humanresources3545 about 470 unloaded, 310 with a 6k lb trailer

[@sesmeltz1965]

@@truckedupevs will do! How do I email you?

[@truckedupevs]

[e-mail]

[@kempkennedy3542]

If I could afford an EV truck (I cannot), I would go for the Rivian personally so I guess I have no dog in this fight. Interesting information though.

[@truckedupevs]

I tried buying one. I couldn't. Rivian still restricts what geographic regions they'll sell to, to ensure they have the ability to service the truck within range. Great adventure trucks, for certain. I did a video on why I bought the Lightning here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/rquck5mvYtB6a68

[@rpsmith2990]

There always was something that seemed wrong about Electric Viking, so I don't subscribe to his channel. But that makes me perhaps the thousandth person to tell you this.

[@truckedupevs]

Haha! Yeah, that and the fact he mass deletes posts that challenge him, it seems, according to the comments.

[@paulmoscatt6529]

He is wrong of course... but Ford did have trouble selling the F150 lightning earlier in the year. When I purchased in August there were about fourteen 2023 F150 lightnings in my RURAL area. These trucks were not selling. 2024's were piling up even more. Ford had to do something. On August 1'st Ford had added the 0% financing without taking away some of the other offers. Those fourteen trucks were sold within two weeks. I was looking at various ones and was watching them go bye bye! And I got one of them! All in all I got $14k off MSRP and zero % financing. Again, this was a 2023 model year, new, but sitting on the lot for a year. Deals on 2024's were not even close to as good. But since then, Ford has managed stock pretty well in my area and they are selling.

[@newscoulomb3705]

The Electric Viking has always been a Tesla shill, and he chronically misstates information about other EV automakers (oddly always negatively🤔). In terms of the other trucks, the Chevrolet Silverado EV is still ramping customer sales because the first, direct-to-customer model (the RST) only became available a few months ago, but I'm not sure that it will outsell the Cybertruck or Lightning until the LT trims are available. The Cybertruck has been a massive disappointment, though, because it only appears to be a ~2% conversion rate from the claimed 2 million reservations. Funny enough, that also seems to be the same retention rate for FSD (less than 3% of Tesla owners opt to keep their FSD subscription).

[@truckedupevs]

Great comment.

[@theforge4591]

I thought that guy promoting Chinese EV.

[@perrytalkkari4166]

Have you heard from him at all? In regards to the information you provided and what you’ve corrected and to apologize for his poor content.

[@truckedupevs]

Not a peep. Also, I seriously wasn't going to post. I left several comments, each one cranking up the pressure to respond. Sam has a habit of deleting a post he doesn't like (check out the comments below. Seems to be an ongoing theme). I doubt mine are still up. So, my last post was, "if you won't take it down or put up a correction, I'll put this up," and I put a link to this video. Still...crickets.

[@thenuzi2623]

Closing the gap ?? They are light years behind and not going to catch up for a decade or maybe never...

[@truckedupevs]

Spoken from someone who's never owned, used, or driven an ev?

[@shannell580]

Yeah….put that loser in his place. Is lightning folks gotta protect our reputation 🤣 love to dispel these fake reports. Lightnings are doing great!

[@truckedupevs]

Lightnings are doing great, and his report was all full of holes, but I don't have any animosity for the guy. In fact, I'm certain he is going through some incredibly tough times with his wife's diagnosis. Since then, his channel has changed, and he's become almost obsessed with churning out a video mill. I think he's losing his way, and I wish him the very best getting back to principled, positive focus on helping people learn about a bright, electric future. But videos like this have to be called out - and there's a lot more from where this came from. All we have to do is look at the comments below. Sam has been deleting or, for the most part, ignoring any comment that calls him out.