EV1 - Driving it the final week before the crusher.

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Darell Dickey

Darell Dickey

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@doctor567
@doctor567 6 жыл бұрын
"The car's batteries get only about 120 miles per charge." in 1997 - LOL
@darelldd
@darelldd 6 жыл бұрын
Right? It took Nissan until 2018 to create better range in the Leaf.
@eivis13
@eivis13 5 жыл бұрын
@@darelldd you do understand that the leaf 1.0 is a full sized car, not just a 911 interior compacted? Still, ~200km is a good range for an ev, even today.
@cardinaloflannagancr8929
@cardinaloflannagancr8929 5 жыл бұрын
True but also consider recharging and no high-speed ones at different locations as now.
@leneanderthalien
@leneanderthalien 5 жыл бұрын
@@darelldd yep: the Leaf as much bigger batteries, but is aerodynamicaly totaly innefficient, so not netter: today is the best aerodynamic electric car the Tesla model 3...
@darelldd
@darelldd 5 жыл бұрын
@@eivis13 Uh, yeah. I "understand". I've owned all these cars. The LEAF 1.0 came 15 years after this car! And it was not "full size" by any means. You'd be surprised at how much room there was in the EV1 even though it was only a two-seater.
@mirainosymphony
@mirainosymphony 5 жыл бұрын
120 miles per charge = about 192km, and it is close to 2017 Nissan Leaf. If GM kept up improving EV1 instead, we could've enjoyed better electric cars than now in less expensive price than nowadays.
@michaelramsey82
@michaelramsey82 6 жыл бұрын
This car was so far ahead of its time. Even without lithium batteries it had 120 miles of range, and my 2012 Nissan Leaf only got about 80 miles when it was new. Imagine where EVs would be today. This is why I will never buy a GM car - even though the Bolt looks promising, GM will never erase the damage it did to the EV world by crushing these cars. RIP EV1...we lost you too soon.
@sariuy1
@sariuy1 5 жыл бұрын
I think it hade 80 Miles
@OneManOnFire
@OneManOnFire 5 жыл бұрын
Mike likes trains As a gm car salesman by law the factory must stock/produce replacement parts up to x (my guess is 10 years. Could be wrong) amount years. It didn't make sense to keep these cars and parts around. I live in California and we sell a ton of Bolts. Also the EV1 name will live on as AV1. Honda, Toyota, and Ford has ever cars back then for lease only. No need to hate on GM.
@aaronr1926
@aaronr1926 5 жыл бұрын
I think a lot of why the ev1 died was the big oil companies wanting to get rid of competition they saw how well the ev1 did and wanted to get rid of it to save their paychecks
@imzjustplayin
@imzjustplayin 5 жыл бұрын
In defense of the leaf... The EV1 with lead acid had 16-18KWH battery which is the same capacity as the Chevy Volt. The later versions had a 26KWH NIMH battery but due to the design of the vehicle, while the NIMH versions had a larger capacity battery, the efficiency went down 50% because they had to retrofit a cooling system that used the air conditioner so the total range didn't increase much. It would have required a complete redesign of the vehicle to use the NIMH batteries properly without a massively energy sucking cooling system. Don't go by the 'range' the vehicles were rated at, those used older testing methods. I had one of these vehicles, 1997 EV1 and the range was quite a bit lower than its actual rating. They were fun vehicles and I liked the sound of them when driven but they weren't ready for prime time by any measure. I think GM crushing these vehicles was a travesty and it really left a sour taste in my mouth for their 'commitment' to green vehicles. I own a Tesla Model S now.
@tommyw.9424
@tommyw.9424 5 жыл бұрын
GM of today isn't the same people. Your logic makes sense only if you look at corporations as always the same thing. I'd buy a Mustang GT500 today even though Henry Ford was kinda a Nazi, because it isn't the same Ford anymore.
@jriley1992
@jriley1992 5 жыл бұрын
This video came out 10 years ago and it seems like everyone is watching it now for some reason.
@darelldd
@darelldd 5 жыл бұрын
Apparently linked from Doug DeMuro's review of the EV1 owner's manual. 300 new comments and 100 new subscribers in the past three days. Yikes.
@Jaggrawr
@Jaggrawr 5 жыл бұрын
@@darelldd Start making EV videos! :)
@forresttm
@forresttm 5 жыл бұрын
10 years later.. and KZbin showed me this video.. Thanks for uploading it.
@darelldd
@darelldd 5 жыл бұрын
Welcome!
@peterkroeker753
@peterkroeker753 5 жыл бұрын
Sir why was it crushed its automotive history
@darelldd
@darelldd 5 жыл бұрын
Crushed because it represented a better product than what was currently making corporate profit.
@SamAbraham
@SamAbraham 5 жыл бұрын
I like how we’re all getting this in our suggested after 10 years. All I did was watch Doug’s vid on the owners manual
@neubro1448
@neubro1448 5 жыл бұрын
By the time when the second generation Prius launched having less advanced technology than the EV1.
@dcdude345
@dcdude345 5 жыл бұрын
shout out to this guy for hitting skids in this thing Probably the only ones ever recorded for this vehicle
@ravisriram6746
@ravisriram6746 5 жыл бұрын
Sad that GM, of all companies, was so ahead of its time and killed it's own electric car.
@Jushwa
@Jushwa 5 жыл бұрын
The one time that GM made a great new car that everyone loved and actually wanted. But instead of letting people actually buy it, they make sure to crush and destroy every last one of them. GM should have never been bailed out. They've been digging themselves their own grave since this decision. They already had spent a billion bucks developing and even building the EV. They had already done it. You can see the passion the creators put into this project. Had they just made more of the car they would have been leading the auto industry and beaten Nissan to market by 10 years. But why would you want to do that? That might actually be a good business decision and we at GM only like to go bankrupt, cost the government millions, and make shitty fucking J.D. Power commericals.
@oldaccount5757
@oldaccount5757 5 жыл бұрын
Shwa Andary cheap Tesla’s for 30k are the future with rising fossil fuel cost ;)
@zangardo3937
@zangardo3937 5 жыл бұрын
Wonder what the Doug score would be on this?
@nunabizness
@nunabizness 5 жыл бұрын
This is proof it’s not that we didn’t have the technology but greed is what killed these amazing cars. Fuck these oil tycoons!
@livingchutoy5422
@livingchutoy5422 5 жыл бұрын
Incorrect. They did not have the Technology to sustain the project back then. The EV1 required far too much maintenance to be considered practical. The cost of the vehicles maintenance was far too high for the average person to afford and thus the reason why these vehicles were leased and not sold outright. The project failed to produce adequate results and was terminated. Greed was not a motivating factor here. I was in California at the time these were produced. I saw them 1st hand and even test drove one, The cost of the Lead Acid batteries, alone, would have caused a lot of strife and left vehicles sitting in driveways as owners would have to take out loans just to deal with the issue of replacing them. The level of Technology was simply not where it needed to be in those days.
@brewergamer
@brewergamer 5 жыл бұрын
Democrat California regulations prevented GM from going any further with it: "In addition, the cost of maintaining a parts supply and service infrastructure for the 15-year minimum required by the state of California meant that existing leases would not be renewed, and all the cars would have to be returned to GM's possession." Source: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_Motors_EV1#Cancellation
@darelldd
@darelldd 5 жыл бұрын
100% not this. There is no law that has a minimum support time for cars that are out of warranty. I'll leave this comment up. But please stop posting the same inflammatory and incorrect information multiple times.
@JandCfilms1
@JandCfilms1 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you Doug Demuro for forcing this in my recommended videos.
@Omar-em7rl
@Omar-em7rl 5 жыл бұрын
it's *Daddy Doug
@JandCfilms1
@JandCfilms1 5 жыл бұрын
@@Omar-em7rl *Daddy Demuro
@scottskinner577
@scottskinner577 5 жыл бұрын
I had to re read. Thought you said Dong Demuro lol
@radstayathomedad9178
@radstayathomedad9178 5 жыл бұрын
It’s weird how related videos just show up after you watch something. This video is a decade old!
@Arch3t3ct
@Arch3t3ct 5 жыл бұрын
Spinning my tires even in the slightest like that in my neighborhood would cause all the old folks to come out for blood. Luckily you had a gem that was so quiet, such an interesting car that makes me wonder what they would be like today if GM never scrapped them
@Marco911
@Marco911 5 жыл бұрын
ikr, I tried to fly a rc helicopter on my street once and like half the neighborhood came outside...
@asrr62
@asrr62 5 жыл бұрын
i know what you mean lol.
@MrKscollier
@MrKscollier 8 жыл бұрын
Ev1 looks much better then the Chevy Bolt. It could have been revolutionary with todays batteries!!
@darelldd
@darelldd 8 жыл бұрын
+Tesla Fan It was already revolutionary in the 1990's, of course. Today GM should have been releasing their 4th generation EV. Instead, we're about to see their second FIRST generation EV. And that'll come out maybe a year before Tesla - a company that didn't even exist when the EV1 was created - will release their truly THIRD generation EV.
@maxiethefoxxie
@maxiethefoxxie 5 жыл бұрын
That's sad. They should have let everyone keep them.
@bfun4615
@bfun4615 6 жыл бұрын
What a neat car! Such a shame to destroy something that could have been so useful. My EV doesn't even peel out like that.
@darelldd
@darelldd 6 жыл бұрын
There was a wee bit of a trick to defeat the factory traction control. Learned to do it early on, and had fun ever since. :-)
@EP1CNELSON
@EP1CNELSON 5 жыл бұрын
They said it wasn't profitable, they lied. It was extremely profitable, but they were afraid it would make their combustion engines useless.
@darelldd
@darelldd 5 жыл бұрын
Ha! There's a guy who knows!
@snappy452
@snappy452 5 жыл бұрын
Stuff like this is why you went bankrupt, GM. You had it and you dropped it because it couldnt be married with the brand and so you didnt know how/care to advertise it. What a disgrace. America had the world beat and we trashed it instead.
@isaakwelch3451
@isaakwelch3451 5 жыл бұрын
I had no idea this video was out there. Rare footage.
@smellymellysgameplay8084
@smellymellysgameplay8084 5 жыл бұрын
Why did these cars HAVE to be crushed ?
@gregs_garage
@gregs_garage 5 жыл бұрын
This video was ahead of its time.
@SKOMPAS
@SKOMPAS 5 жыл бұрын
Apart from the fact it looks like it was made in the 90's
@hasnomoney1800
@hasnomoney1800 5 жыл бұрын
wow 10 years ago GM didnt want nothing to do with EV's. Now on there home page, they talk alot about there future tech on EV's.
@Tore_Lund
@Tore_Lund 5 жыл бұрын
I presume they've kept the old pressing tools so they could start production again, this time with Li-ion batteries?
@JustARegularNerd
@JustARegularNerd 5 жыл бұрын
Hold on, a video from 2009, and comments from 6 minutes ago, an hour ago, another hour ago, 4 hours ago, just some video about EV1s being crushed due to the manufacturer? Good guy KZbin algorithm.
@YoungBloodGamer
@YoungBloodGamer 5 жыл бұрын
Doug Demuro sent us here
@reginaldbowls7180
@reginaldbowls7180 5 жыл бұрын
OI!
@frank1015
@frank1015 5 жыл бұрын
i would of stored it in a shed or storage container and claim that it was stolen.
@LBZDreamer
@LBZDreamer 5 жыл бұрын
True dat
@WildWildWeasel
@WildWildWeasel 5 жыл бұрын
Damn thing sounded good for an EV of the time, and didn't really look that bad either.
@luckygirlfromtheislands7592
@luckygirlfromtheislands7592 5 жыл бұрын
It looked good in red and I love the noise it made.
@Shyzah
@Shyzah 5 жыл бұрын
lol youtube recommended this to like a million people 10 years after being uploaded.
@herbienbrian2
@herbienbrian2 5 жыл бұрын
The elite realized that it was too good for this world
@TheResistorNetwork
@TheResistorNetwork 5 жыл бұрын
The music in this video is perfectly 90s. A truly amazing car, well ahead of its time!
@fisioserv
@fisioserv 6 жыл бұрын
GM came with the excuse that they didn't create a market for this ev1.(lost lots of money) But how can you get this car off if u lease it to your customers, why not sell it. once its yours then spare parts batteries and other replacements can be sold. the gains would be far greater than a lease. I think it was planned to be scrapped. well TESLA got in the void and made a success. GM is now playing catch up.
@TranscendentalAirwaves
@TranscendentalAirwaves 5 жыл бұрын
They leased them so that once the laws were changed they could collect them all up again and pretend like it never happened.
@voicetube
@voicetube 5 жыл бұрын
AGREED! Thank you Mr. Musk :-)
@OneManOnFire
@OneManOnFire 5 жыл бұрын
fisioserv GM is playing catch up? Did you know GM sells an all electric car called the Bolt since 2016. The price is $37,000 brand new before discounts.
@bandombeviews6035
@bandombeviews6035 5 жыл бұрын
They didn’t want to deal with servicing these, or competitors getting them. If they sold them, they could have sold it at a massive profit margin since nothing like it existed.
@darelldd
@darelldd 5 жыл бұрын
You had me right up until the end. The cars were not gathered up and crushed because their "experiment" was over. They were crushed specifically to avoid having to make more of them when GM realized that they'd just proven to CARB that EVs were viable.
@paladindoesd2
@paladindoesd2 5 жыл бұрын
thank you youtube for recommending this 10 years later
@mydogisdead414
@mydogisdead414 11 жыл бұрын
Thanks for paving the way for us second generation electric car owners. I rent the battery but own my car, I wouldn't have done it if I didn't see the documentary or the news.
@darelldd
@darelldd 11 жыл бұрын
What a lovely, positive comment! Thanks for stoping by. Cheers to you for being part of the solution.
@antonio_ws6
@antonio_ws6 5 жыл бұрын
After doug review the owners manual youtube knew it was time to bless this video
@AeroPrixma
@AeroPrixma 5 жыл бұрын
Antonio is that your evo
@darelldd
@darelldd 5 жыл бұрын
Wow. Is this what it feels like to be blessed? I thought there'd be more rapture.
@AHADKhan-pg7lr
@AHADKhan-pg7lr 5 жыл бұрын
KZbin recommendations 2009...nah 2010..nah 2011...nope 2012....hmm 2013...shmmm 2014...zzzzzzz 2015.......... 2016.....uuuhh 2017.....psssstt 2018.....hmm maybe....nahh 2019....here u go... Seriously...
@Roostertailin
@Roostertailin 5 жыл бұрын
Honestly
@timaustin2000
@timaustin2000 8 жыл бұрын
It's just heartbreaking. Watch the movie "Who Killed the Electric Car" and you see that it's actually more than that: it's criminal. There was demand, the car (by the third gen) was brilliant, owners were raving about it and had it gone into full mass production across the country it would have been successful and profitable. But GM wanted to sell Hummers so,....
@debla7532
@debla7532 8 жыл бұрын
GREAT vid on Netflix, yes. Very criminal, yes. Hummers, oh yes, let's promote the worst of all business and human behavior. Not to mention, the way we're expected to worship the hucksters in the hallowed halls of the US car industry. It's over. There's a reason children's stories like The Wizard of Oz and The Emperor's New Clothes hold up after hundreds of years.
@spazzman90
@spazzman90 6 жыл бұрын
I guess the question will always remain. Many auto makers had proved that a viable zero emissions vehicle was possible. Why exactly did the California Air Resources Board decide at the last minute to reverse their mandate for ZEVs?
@omgwtfbbqstfu
@omgwtfbbqstfu 5 жыл бұрын
@@spazzman90 because they proved it was possible, not viable. It took a 2 decades past and a decade of building ultra luxury ev's by tesla before they could drop the price down to 35k, and even that's not really encouraged because even with selling just the expensive ones, they are having trouble making a profit. Both corporate bosses and the car unions were extremely corrupt back then as well, they could have never done it even if they had the technology.
@motorbloxx
@motorbloxx 5 жыл бұрын
Welcome to another episode of: *WhY iS tHiS iN mY rEcOmMeNdEd??*
@Esdeath_0001
@Esdeath_0001 5 жыл бұрын
You watched Doug read the EV1 Owner's manual
@ValentineC137
@ValentineC137 5 жыл бұрын
*Makes electric car to show people why they're bad* *People love them* *_Oh fuck crush it_*
@Xixu.co.6
@Xixu.co.6 5 жыл бұрын
You don't actually believe that, do you? They could've easily just made the car bad if they wanted to prove it was bad. These were experimental cars and at the end of said experiment gm had absolutely no interest in being responsible for them. Being able to service cars costs a lot of money and these would still be haunting gm service departments to this day. Easier to crush them and move on.
@krollpeter
@krollpeter 7 жыл бұрын
I suspect by now GM could be the most advanced electric car maker. How stupid was that?
@darelldd
@darelldd 7 жыл бұрын
Pretty stupid, in my estimation.
@jakedeutscher
@jakedeutscher 5 жыл бұрын
8:20 looks like the current mustangs rear tail light area
@calculator5909
@calculator5909 5 жыл бұрын
Now that's trippy
@ToddyBeer69
@ToddyBeer69 5 жыл бұрын
No wonder😄
@mewtwo255200
@mewtwo255200 5 жыл бұрын
And five years later, bailout! And who is the EV king? TESLA! Could have been GM. Oh well.
@LynxStarAuto
@LynxStarAuto 10 жыл бұрын
Great camera for 2003 standards! The sound of the EV1 brings back so many memories. I got to see and drive one back in 2000, at tech school. Back then it was used as a teaching platform, with GM loaning one to the school. No idea what became of it 14 years later. It was an interesting piece of technology, no doubt could have owned the hybrid market today. Instead, Toyota did thanks to the Prius.
@darelldd
@darelldd 9 жыл бұрын
+Lynx Star Automotive (Gabe V) Thanks for the nice words on the video!
@ATXMEX78
@ATXMEX78 5 жыл бұрын
All the cool vehicles gm would have produced by now from sedans to suburbans.. damn shame. We were all cheated by big Oil!!
@viseberg8527
@viseberg8527 8 жыл бұрын
the EV1 sounds like a jet turbine!
@BeyondDuctTapeFixItRight
@BeyondDuctTapeFixItRight 6 жыл бұрын
I thought the same thing.
@murocossie
@murocossie 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks to you I saw what an EV1 drives like. My best compliments for you!
@SkippyThorson
@SkippyThorson 5 жыл бұрын
Amazing video. Thank you for documenting this car for the future. Very little exists about it, so videos like these will be awesome in the future of advancing EVs. Coolest thing is, with that flowing center dash, you can see a good bit of 2011 Chevy Volt!
@darelldd
@darelldd 5 жыл бұрын
You're welcome. But of course Doug is currently getting all of the credit.
@Phantom096
@Phantom096 11 жыл бұрын
Seen lots of reviews and test drives of the Volt, Tesla, Volare and others but when I see the videos of regular people driving the EV1's I am impressed by the technology, sound and the way it all works together with not one drop of gas used. Not to mention the look of happiness on peoples face. This car was something especial no doubt. Thanks for the reply.
@YALE70
@YALE70 8 жыл бұрын
It's at least nice to know a small handful of these are still kicking around at universities and museums.
@downhome7500
@downhome7500 10 жыл бұрын
It definitely is a goddamn shame what became of this car. It's great that you had the pleasure of driving one for a while.
@ryanc4761
@ryanc4761 6 жыл бұрын
Great vid! Thank you for putting it together. I drove an EV1 at a test drive event, racing against a Corvette and off the line the EV took it. What a great car.
@DESUDESU24
@DESUDESU24 5 жыл бұрын
That would explain why they killed it. GM killed so many great things trying to protect it's precious golden child.
@rhcplover100
@rhcplover100 13 жыл бұрын
sounds so cool! i'm 17 and if they still made them today, i would be proud to drive one
@rnward
@rnward 6 жыл бұрын
This brings back so many memories - I had a blue 1st Gen one, then got someone in SoCal to assume the lease, and leased a red NiMH one, and of course had to return it to its doom. It's one reason I will never buy a GM product. They only made 1150 of them I think. At this time, at work there were 2 other guys with EVs - an EV1 and a Honda EV plus. We were on the fringe for sure, but always were hoping that it would catch on. Thanks for posting this.
@darelldd
@darelldd 6 жыл бұрын
Awesome. I wonder if mine was your lease return?? Mine was still considered Gen 1, but but with the updated Panasonic batteries.
@stefspec
@stefspec 16 жыл бұрын
Great video Darell! Thanks for archiving this historic footage.
@ASorushY
@ASorushY 5 жыл бұрын
stefspec 10 years has past since you wrote ....... lol
@MisterLumpkin
@MisterLumpkin 5 жыл бұрын
GM could have owned the EV market if they had persevered with the EV1. They probably would have short-circuited the formation of Tesla Motors and today would be selling their tech to EV latecomers.
@q.q.q.6851
@q.q.q.6851 5 жыл бұрын
MrMathiasdv GM will pull a dumb move everywhere
@rkan2
@rkan2 5 жыл бұрын
The problem was though, GM couldn't make any money with the EV1... It just allowed them to make more money in California, with other cars... Even still, Tesla isn't exactly swimming in profit, yet.
@MisterLumpkin
@MisterLumpkin 5 жыл бұрын
@@rkan2 - GM never even tried to make money from the EV1. It was a response to the California law in force at the time. They only built about 1100 of them and never sold them outright. As soon as they managed to lobby CA to weaken the law, they abandoned EV1. They didn't know what they had. They were like Xerox with the first GUI computer and no idea what to do with it because all they could think about was copy machine toner. Ironically, Rick Wagoner, CEO at the time, said killing the EV1 was his worst decision as CEO and is now on the board of ChargePoint.
@omgwtfbbqstfu
@omgwtfbbqstfu 5 жыл бұрын
They probablywould have gone bankrupt, was 1 dollar gas days then, and even now, Tesla's having a hard time being profitable at a reasonable price. GM was corrupt and the unions were also corrupt, the stories of drugs and hookers at plants are notorious, its why the japanese couldn't even really help them to fix their production standards to the toyota standard back when they were cooperating. The conspiracies are a fun explanation, but the reality is more mundane and dirty.
@loganluke6690
@loganluke6690 5 жыл бұрын
I don’t know why this popped up in my recommendations 10 years later but I’m glad it did. Wasn’t around to see one in the wild but I got to see one at the Peterson not to long ago.
@mindthreatx
@mindthreatx 5 жыл бұрын
What a fantastic car and absolutely love the super-futuristic layout of the curved dash layout. So rad!
@oleogabalo
@oleogabalo 5 жыл бұрын
This is a valuable historical document. Thank you for posting. It has a weird back to the future feeling. It was a sad and stupid mistake to discontinue this project.
@darelldd
@darelldd 5 жыл бұрын
You're welcome! Thanks for the nice words
@nothingtoseehere177
@nothingtoseehere177 5 жыл бұрын
How does an auto maker sue an entire state? That just shows you who is really in charge and making decisions.
@ShaunDobbie
@ShaunDobbie 8 жыл бұрын
If I could have any car, it would be that one. To me, it is the most legendary car ever and the sound is phenomenal.
@angelgjr1999
@angelgjr1999 8 жыл бұрын
Sounds like a plane taking of. :D
@cpufreak101
@cpufreak101 8 жыл бұрын
unfortunately, only 40 were spared and only 3 of them run. one got a complete overhaul since GM took the motor, batteries, and all the controllers, they just pretty much had an EV1 rolling chassis and they stuffed in various components from other EV vehicles, the 2nd was another university project, haven't read up into it much. the third belongs to the Smithsonian, only one left unmodified from the factory, it is however rarely on display. there used to be a fourth when a university had a complete one with the inverter Disabled, it didn't take them long to re-enable the inverter and have a factory EV1, unfortunately, they killed it trying to make an autonomous pizza delivery vehicle, something broke in the shifter and no replacement parts have been found, so it's been stripped and is now sitting out in the elements covered in dust. don't ask me why but i'm still holding out hope someone locked one away in a garage or a barn somewhere, although i highly doubt it for the small production numbers.
@kens97sto171
@kens97sto171 5 жыл бұрын
What a collosal and short sighted thing to do. GM could have been where Tesla is now.. and years ahead of anyone else. EV's are not practical for everyone.. but many would be perfectly happy with them. Why not let the people who wanted to keep them.. just keep them A long term fleet could have given them even more information about possible issues.... Such a dumb ass thing to do. They haven't learned much either.. closing the Lordstown plant is just as short sighted and stupid.
@omgwtfbbqstfu
@omgwtfbbqstfu 5 жыл бұрын
This is the myth, this was a time when gas was a buck a gallon, and there was a reason why Tesla took 20 years and has been selling cars like the model S for close to 100k, and many way past that price with options. The battery technology was not there at the time, and these cars were crushed because of the very same short sighted laws forcing that decision to be made as the car maker didn't want to be saddled with the life time support costs. The very people in california pushing regulations to force these one off experiments were the types who would never buy american vehicles back then, so it was hardly a cooperative environment.
@MikeKobb
@MikeKobb 12 жыл бұрын
I'm glad you posted this, Darell. It's nice to hear the old EV-1 whine again. Damn GM anyway.
@AndrewJaws
@AndrewJaws 9 жыл бұрын
haha! I'm so glad you actually took it for some spirited driving.
@darelldd
@darelldd 9 жыл бұрын
+Andrew J (Jawse36) :-) Pretty much always.
@darelldd
@darelldd 12 жыл бұрын
Mr. Falcon - having owned and operated EVs with lead, NiMH and Lithium chemistries, all I can respond with is that rumors of my "absolutely wrongness" are overrated. I'm thrilled that you work with the batteries. I drive the cars.
@dannyleepiloote7384
@dannyleepiloote7384 5 жыл бұрын
Damn i want one now
@carbomaniac4020
@carbomaniac4020 5 жыл бұрын
Well sadly you will never get one
@royzuniga4368
@royzuniga4368 8 жыл бұрын
I love the sound of that car!
@darelldd
@darelldd 8 жыл бұрын
It was tuned on purpose to make that sound.
@TheSeanUhTron
@TheSeanUhTron 8 жыл бұрын
When pushed by CARB (California Air Resources Board), GM developed the EV1. When GM and other auto-makers pushed back and successfully sued CARB, they crushed the EV1. Despite how much we need and like the EV1, GM doesn't care and wants to keep doing the same ol' thing they've been doing for almost 100 years.
@darelldd
@darelldd 8 жыл бұрын
To be accurate, it actually worked the other way around with CARB. GM demonstrated that an acceptable EV could be made. And THAT is what gave CARB the confidence to be able to create a mandate. Somewhat Ironic that GM pretty much created the push from CARB by building this car... and then turned around and sued CARB to avoid having to make the car. It would be comical if not true...
@solarstacks
@solarstacks 7 жыл бұрын
GM finally learned and the Chevy Bolt is available in many cites all across the USA. It took a while but was worth the wait. I have a Tesla model 3 on order and drive a used 2012 Tesla model S now. Amazing.
@mediumgrey1947
@mediumgrey1947 6 жыл бұрын
When corruption becomes obvious.
@BTS-yu3jq
@BTS-yu3jq 5 жыл бұрын
8:56 is why they crushed them
@michaelramsey82
@michaelramsey82 5 жыл бұрын
Yep. Another reason why I will never buy a GM car. They killed off a brilliant EV and gave us fucking Hummer instead.
@BTS-yu3jq
@BTS-yu3jq 5 жыл бұрын
Lol right. 5k pound suv with 5 cylinder
@mr8I7
@mr8I7 5 жыл бұрын
Some nerd needs to remake this car. It’s clearly got a small but hardcore fan base.
@devinbender8428
@devinbender8428 5 жыл бұрын
A C That’s the Chevy Bolt
@tech-kyle
@tech-kyle 5 жыл бұрын
@@devinbender8428 Before that even, there were plenty of "compliance cars" like the Focus Electric and Chevy Spark EV. I thought they'd feel thrown together, but I went in on a whim to test a used Chevy Spark EV thinking I wouldn't like it and I signed the papers for it a few hours later.
@Jaggrawr
@Jaggrawr 5 жыл бұрын
Check out tzev.com. He's rebuilding one and is almost done.
@zerokoolTV
@zerokoolTV 11 жыл бұрын
Just finished watching the documentary about who kill the electric car and boy I' tell you, these car looked great. Not only no oil no gas no dirtiness. Damn it if only people would have some BALLS and NOT give in to profit and the oil companies. What a great car from GM!!!!! Such a shame. DAMN IT!
@carlydreal3486
@carlydreal3486 8 жыл бұрын
This car is like the "Dodo" of of cars
@sp94svt
@sp94svt 5 жыл бұрын
@dougdemuro brought us here lol. This might be the best quality video I seen that's 10 years old !!
@darelldd
@darelldd 5 жыл бұрын
Awww, thanks.
@rkan2
@rkan2 5 жыл бұрын
But the Actual video is more than 15 years old! Uploaded to KZbin as a 6 year old video!
@darelldd
@darelldd 5 жыл бұрын
I was distributing it on DVD for quite some time. Back in the day, it wasn't possible to upload a video this long to KZbin (if I remember correctly). Also I had copyright issues with the news segment and the music (drives me nuts when it is music that I own, and I'm not making any money off of this!)
@RandomActivities
@RandomActivities 8 жыл бұрын
The EV1 was a really cool car! It's a real tragedy that they were all taken away and destroyed. I don't believe the claims that drivers didn't want it. The hydrogen fuel-cell car was a waste. They should have kept the EV and developed gas/electric hybrids.
@Claro1993
@Claro1993 8 жыл бұрын
RandomActivities Well, they did as a response to Tesla, and now they have the Chevy Volt, and the Chevy Bolt EV.
@FrancisMaxino
@FrancisMaxino 6 жыл бұрын
Nice looking vehicle, reminds me of a classic Citreon with those back wheels the way they are. Seems counter productive and insane to have these things destroyed the way they were. Sometimes advancements in technology for the better are too good to be true and must be suppressed so that the older technologies can still make a profit and not be threatened. Imagine if the same thing had happened to petrol engines in the time of steam, most engines would still run off coal...
@TruckingShooter
@TruckingShooter 5 жыл бұрын
So sad, I worked for a Saturn dealer in chicago when these were around, sadly we never got them. Thankfully you made this video back in 03 and many others can enjoy a snip-it of these cars today. Thanks for preserving this bit of history.
@darelldd
@darelldd 5 жыл бұрын
Cheers. Thanks for the support.
@Minkey0
@Minkey0 5 жыл бұрын
I hate gm for crushing them, my dad drove one back in 98 and he loved it, wish they coulda stayed
@FireSwordl
@FireSwordl 6 жыл бұрын
Very sad :( a great car ahead of its time :(
@the13joker
@the13joker 12 жыл бұрын
thank you for responding. sorry for your loss.
@GearheadBrasileiro
@GearheadBrasileiro 8 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much for this relic of a video, Darell! I've had the opportunity of seeing one of those, sitting on a lonely corner of the College For Creative Studies building in Detroit. I'd already read about it, and never thought I would have the opportunity to see one, let alone sit on the car and interact with it. I even went so far as to take home an old brochure that was sitting on a pile of documents by the trunk, one of those from the Gen-2 vehicle (with testimonies from famous owners and other curiosities about the EV1). A very kind professor at CCS gave it to me, after noticing how interested I was in the vehicle. These were wonderful cars, and of course we can understand the reasons for its demise by GM (regardless of the usual conspiracy theories indicating that it was a huge political and economical move), but it's tough to see them as a dark page of history.
@kennybruder8653
@kennybruder8653 7 жыл бұрын
This makes me want to cry.
@darelldd
@darelldd 7 жыл бұрын
It seems odd to say now, but didn't at the time: It DID make us cry. Returning the car - knowing its fate - was more than just losing a car. It was losing what that car symbolized. At the time, it appeared that the age of the modern EV was over before it ever had a chance to get started. There were some dark years.... and now here we are. GM could have been dominant in this space, but spent hundreds of millions to throw it all away, and start over a day late and a dollar short.
@kennybruder8653
@kennybruder8653 7 жыл бұрын
I definitely understand both the personal and broader pain, and I agree about the prospects of GM back then. That board of executives simply lacked principles. The industry revamp that resulted in Wagoner and friends being ousted was one of the proudest moments in United States history.
@RoverNathan
@RoverNathan 5 жыл бұрын
Why did it have to get crushed
@DavidFilskov
@DavidFilskov 5 жыл бұрын
Oil companies still had money to make, I guess. EV1 got in the way.
@SonnyGTA
@SonnyGTA 5 жыл бұрын
Nathan Cole watch...Who Killed The Electric Car.
@thegiantfinds
@thegiantfinds 5 жыл бұрын
Big oil refused to let any survive. People wanted to buy them outright and there was just no option.
@adamdion7574
@adamdion7574 5 жыл бұрын
The battery was good for only 120 miles, so they had reasons not to produce it... That's actually a good range. We just started to get ovet that with modern electric cars. Literally just a few years ago. But now it's so important to build them, but it wasn't 20 years ago? Bullshit...
@michaelramsey82
@michaelramsey82 5 жыл бұрын
The EV revolution should have happened back then. GM realized that electric cars were too good, and represented a serious threat to the oil industry, so they tried to kill them off. Ten years later, we got the Nissan Leaf and electric cars made a comeback, but their development was delayed a decade because of what GM did.
@adamdion7574
@adamdion7574 5 жыл бұрын
Mike likes trains ten years later they came back because they realized they could make even more money on our back with EVs lol
@lolitasedyte224
@lolitasedyte224 5 жыл бұрын
Imagine replacing that rear window lmaooo rip bank account
@Gunzee
@Gunzee 5 жыл бұрын
You're lucky to have driven the car for 6 years? It's so sad the oil companies can push companies this way. The car companies can survive but i hope the oil companies days are numbered. What they did in Africa was a insane disgrace. I would have had it 'stolen' and hidden or stored. Can you imagine how great the ev's could have been if they kept at it? PS, you have an absolutely angelic little cherub there. PPS, 120 miles is actually really good especially back then. For inner city driving 120 should last 4-5 days or just enough for a weeks worth of employment commuting. Is beyond sad how short sighted companies can be. Hell samething occurred in the mid /early 1900's. The US had many ev's, trams and cars.
@dontknowagoodname3215
@dontknowagoodname3215 5 жыл бұрын
sorry if i disliked your comment i accidently tapped it oops
@TheObsessedGardener
@TheObsessedGardener 7 жыл бұрын
That charging port! Awesome.
@DaRealRoachDoggJr
@DaRealRoachDoggJr 6 жыл бұрын
Am I the only one who liked the look and style of it? The wheel cover and wrap around glass on windshield and rear windshield.
@darelldd
@darelldd 6 жыл бұрын
You aren't the only one. It definitely grew on me as well.
@bouchandre
@bouchandre 9 жыл бұрын
Those who killed the EV1 must the shitting their pants over Tesla now.
@WollyhoodStudios
@WollyhoodStudios 9 жыл бұрын
+Alexandre Boucher "Hey! Let's hinder innovation and curing the planet's failing ecosystem for profit!"
@Patchuchan
@Patchuchan 9 жыл бұрын
+Alexandre Boucher During a 2006 interview Rick Wagner the former CEO of GM said he the considered axing the EV-1 program his worst decision. A lot of ex EV-1 owners went on to buy Priuses.
@darelldd
@darelldd 9 жыл бұрын
+Patchuchan Those EV1 -> Prius -> Rav4EV -> Leaf -> Tesla. I can't count how many people followed that path.
@DehnusNorder
@DehnusNorder 8 жыл бұрын
+Alexandre Boucher Well as Stephen Colbert once said :"I can't decide if you're a super vilain or hero" to Elon Musk :P. :D
@Maserati7200
@Maserati7200 5 жыл бұрын
If I leased one of these I would’ve hid it somewhere indoors (Friend’s garage or something) and reported it stolen. After the investigation died down I’d keep it in my garage. What would happen if I miraculously “found” it years later, like today, with the current EV climate. Would GM really demand it back and scrap it? I bet if they stopped production, but let you original owners buy your cars, they would be worth a considerable amount of money... I could imagine them even to this day going for $40,000 or more on the used market. It’s a piece of history, and a damn cool one at that. Also, your daughter is adorable!!
@MischiefMeerkat
@MischiefMeerkat 9 жыл бұрын
Fortunately the electric car wasn't killed, it just lost the first few rounds. It was only a couple of years later that hybrids were introduced. And now we have the Tesla line, the nissan leaf, ford focus electric and several others! I have a Civic now, but my next car is going to be an EV => I can't fucking wait..
@StrongEnough78
@StrongEnough78 14 жыл бұрын
This was so sad! The ones not being saved for display are getting crushed. What a waste! I would have liked to have one. Perfect for work and back and around town errands. Just save my regular car for long distance trips. Thanks for sharing this video with us, I've never seen one in person even just in magazines and on TV. But your video gave a better perspective on what they were like. Pretty gutsy for a little car too!
@Bigdave_8286YTube
@Bigdave_8286YTube 9 жыл бұрын
Thank for Sharing Darell. I would have been heart broken to give her up, she was a beauty :D
@darelldd
@darelldd 9 жыл бұрын
+David Jackson There have been two times in my life when I became emotional over a car. First was turning in the EV1. That symbolized the end. The EV movement was dead before it started. We were done. The next time came when I recently drove a Tesla P90D. Wow. The game is over, and we've WON.
@bassamsiraj2175
@bassamsiraj2175 5 жыл бұрын
Man this car looks sick! Even for the standards of 2019, this is an amazing interior!
@chuckdzx
@chuckdzx 6 жыл бұрын
Shoulda stole it from yourself
@darelldd
@darelldd 6 жыл бұрын
Yeah, except I didn't want to go to jail.
@speedcat80
@speedcat80 5 жыл бұрын
This thing even sounded very well 👍
@SonnyGTA
@SonnyGTA 5 жыл бұрын
Great video!!! I wonder what the ramifications would have been if you (or any owner) would have said, someone stole it. Sorry. Would they charge you? I wonder.....
@lowket
@lowket 7 жыл бұрын
The Big Three sabotaged and killed the electric car in those days. Good luck trying that today with Tesla taking over the market.
@BeyondDuctTapeFixItRight
@BeyondDuctTapeFixItRight 6 жыл бұрын
Studebaker built and sold electric cars for a decade in the early 1900's. It was the 800lb gorilla back in the day. Had an electric car market materialized, it is Studebaker that would have dominated the market. Who knows, the "Big 3' may have faded away 100 years ago had that happened.
@gsilva220
@gsilva220 5 жыл бұрын
A wild battery artificial shortage appears!
@risingembersgaming7740
@risingembersgaming7740 6 жыл бұрын
I love it! So sad it's gone. Would've loved to have one
@grndiesel
@grndiesel 15 жыл бұрын
It breaks my heart everytime I see a home movie of an EV1 like this. If there was ever a chance of me buying a new GM product, its gone for good. Can't get over the sound of that car.
@Darrell1981
@Darrell1981 5 жыл бұрын
Team Recommendation is here. Never heard of this car but this needs to come back.
@FalconFour
@FalconFour 12 жыл бұрын
I drive a LEAF too, and I built an electric bike battery out of lithium cells to upgrade from the lead it came with. Same voltage, same capacity, whole-new-bike level of performance versus the new lead batteries. Lithiums are in a class of their own that neither lead nor NiMH can ever touch.
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