Everything You Need To Know About The Witness For The Final Shape

[@joshuawood1462]

Does anyone else need a campaign all about The Nine besides myself? That's one story arc that they've only scratched the surface of. Hell, I'd be happy with a Season of the Nine.

[@quiethate]

I thought there already was a season of the 9 beginning of d2

[@quiethate]

Nvm I’m wrong

[@user-BadUsername]

i think they might be a big player in D3

[@jg7630]

Same. Also would like the factions to come back and be something we have to deal with

[@ten4c10us_ace]

​@@jg7630I've been saying that since they fled the Last City.

[@ATFprdepartment]

I still love that the only time the Witness goes full mask off and breaks from its calmness is when Calus points out how petty they are for just using their “infinite power” to effectively pour salt on a snail because they’re an ultimate hater

[@TheLateNightBird]

This right here! The Witness is no different then a spoiled child getting it fav toy taken away and then throwing a fit!

[@courtoiis3679]

They HAVE to show us what happened in the first collapse

[@Dr_argon_themadman]

Yes

[@Plushy955]

Yes ​@@hal0justcal865

[@Dr_argon_themadman]

@@hal0justcal865 YES, I want to know what happened during the first collapse

[@lunazara6775]

​@@Dr_argon_themadmanHow exactly would knowing details about the First Collapse be significant enough to the story to warrant spending time away from the ending of the entire 10 years to talk about it?

[@The_anime979]

I agree

[@sly_tendencies87]

Beautiful work Evaze.

[@R0YA1GUARD]

I’m new to Destiny. I think what’s scary is that I understand the logic the Witness has. In real life, humanity does strive to ‘usher ourselves into a Golden Age.’ The problem is, achieving a Golden Age as ‘perfect’ as the Precursors is commensurate to an eventual ‘Collapse’ and ‘existential/morality crisis.’ Caused by no limitations to technological, biological and worldly advancements, and no wars, famine, climate disasters etc; puts a civilisation into a state of complete pampered wealth, peace and eternal knowledge of pretty much everything makes you think *’What’s the point? We have all this wealth and advancement for what? We have no purpose… nothing to resolve or fight for… nothing to live for.’* Because they have achieved ALL meanings and requirements for a so called Golden age thanks to the Traveller, the Traveller inevitably makes them thirsty to create a campaign “to impose meaning” and end all suffering and malevolence by using ONE more act of suffering and malevolence to ‘winnow and calcify the universe into a final shape.’

[@louiejackson2312]

What if the witness was called the shitness and it shitted all over the place

[@lukesayer9149]

That would be legitness

[@The_anime979]

💀💀💀💀

[@SmokinTonic]

so beast mode

[@Oogway876]

What if The Witness was called The Freakness and instead of calcifying reality it twerks all over it I’m edging rn 🍿

[@MolokoMinus]

This shouldn’t have made me laugh, but it did.

[@Elnato23]

Great recap before Final shape, hopefully it brings some great story and lore for us

[@urbanpharaoh354]

Eyes up guardian world we know will be one to never forget not about story but friends we make on the journey no guardian left behind nor forgotten

[@darkblu117zcrookedneck8]

Where did the Traveler come from? Is it being of pure Light or Great Machine of Light. Hmm?

[@08karlos]

We saw the Witness well before the Witch Queen ...REMEMBER the line we are not your enemy We are not your Friend, " We are your SALVATION "

[@reamoinmcdonachadh9519]

The Precursors did not grasp that it was NOT the "Gardiner's" (Traveler) place to answer questions about "Purpose". Those questions can only be answered from within one's self, they were granted all the gifts and tools of learning to discover "Purpose" for themselves. The "Gardiner" (Traveler) had no part to play, it's 'job' was already done.

[@ten4c10us_ace]

Spot on!!!

[@bruceayers512]

Where do the Nine fit into all of this? I havent heard anything about them in eons.

[@edge4266]

I imagine they’re waiting to see whether or not The Final Shape happens. We know they can’t interact with physical reality directly so I’d imagine that they’d have as much stake in The Final Shape being stopped as us as it would end their existence

[@Cookie11202]

I’m excited for this.. I wonder if they would give us alternate endings how the final shape would end.

[@Fail-Safe-1]

Still want a single player Vanguard play

[@somerandomdude7785]

Aren't the Precursors a name for the shiny white Vex models?

[@lyr1x302]

We call the species the Witness was born from the Precursors (just a fanbase name) while the White Vex Precursors are Vex from the distant past

[@randomkidwithautsim]

i am so exited

[@Ill_Omen95]

So what was the witness doing before Destiny 2 and the pulse of light The traveler emitted in the post credit cutscene? Were they just floating in space waiting for a sign of the traveler?

[@ITACHI9005]

Yup that sounds about right

[@Vishalx01]

This is what I don’t understand too concerning we’ve been fighting the hive since D1, who wouldn’t be here if it wasn’t for the witness. Surely he was aware of the light/traveller whereabouts.

[@landenstephens4032]

He was working with Savathun, Savathun actually caused the first collapse with help from the witness. Savathun then betrayed the witness

[@dudeydude77_clips]

probably playing Halo

[@superelite5133]

I thought it was implied that the traveler had pushed the witness back during the first collapse? I think it was in a stasis or recovering its power all this time?

[@dillonrodriquez9873]

What happens to his head smoke? Does it just forever smolder and cause cancer or is there a limit? Like is everyone coughing on witness brain all the time?

[@doncheadle694]

What if the witness was called “the freakness” and instead of making everything not exist it made everything freaky

[@Wolverine1992-z5m]

i hope chaos reach super will be add to prismatic at somepoint

[@goldengod31]

Prismatic is a bargain bin class. It is so that u use the most least used abilities in the game and so that bungo doesn’t have to develop new stuff.

[@wilburforce8046]

@@goldengod31bro did not watch the KZbinrs who got early access. Combined with class exotics (only works well with prismatic) that new class is absurd. It gives you free ability spam like your in a campaign mission section for no cost.

[@Soupsty]

Who else is hyped for the final shape?

[@danielhornby18]

I was but it's 3h and 20 mins after lunch and still can't play it

[@CDcooper3876]

I just hope the expansion doesn’t disappoint as many have before

[@The_anime979]

Light fall disappointed me hard but it was desint

[@princephillip1481]

Many?? 🙄🙄

[@lastword9047]

​@@princephillip1481 Destiny 1 launched day The Dark Below D2 launched day Curse of Osiris Warmind ShadowKeep Beyond light and Lightfall and a couple of seasonal stories

[@abelortiz3010]

@@The_anime979 people were just too quick to judge. There was nothing wrong with letting the veil be a mystery for us to uncover. Lightfall was an 8/10 year for me

[@The_anime979]

​@@abelortiz3010ok but I am just saying that I did not like it alot it was desint

[@reamoinmcdonachadh9519]

Ah, the Nine, well I figure they will show up somewhere within the Pale Heart, at some point. The Nine are everywhere.

[@iwaskillcam1434]

So I think in the raid we will fail to end the witness. There is a 12 player activity where I think we will finish him off after the raid has been completed

[@morgothz0]

What IF the vex are in fact the construct of the precursor, like, their own AI that we're left behing when they merge and became the witness, they may be not have recognize the witness as their former master (except for the sol divisive or something like that), and the "goal" of the vex is in fact the original idea of the precursor?. Then this theory can be easily destroy by the fact that if it was the case, the Vex should already know everything about light and darkness... XD

[@brandonelliott7482]

Just got light fall been waiting way too long for this.

[@seanraines8459]

1 more day and then we finally put an end to the light dark war guardians

[@adamboy0559]

Not fully. The story won’t be complete till the raids beaten. Bungie said themself the story continues into the raid where we will finish off the witness finally.

[@seanraines8459]

@@adamboy0559 but it is only the beginning of the end

[@ten4c10us_ace]

Not necessarily. The Witness isn't the Winnower. The Darkness will endure but suffer a blow losing the Witness.

[@ThePilot7274]

Set your heart set your light ablaze and fight with all that you have been given and all that you have earned, fight to honor those you have lost and fight to protect the friends the allies the family you have made, fight to protect those who cannot protect themselves no matter the cost fight with everything you are for we are the light of hope we are defender's of the last city we stand for what is right in this universe for WE ARE THE GUARDIANS AND DESTINY DOESN'T DECIDE OUR FATE WE DO AND WHEN WE FACE THE WITNESS WE FACE IT TOGETHER AS ONE

[@spiralkingxiii9496]

That last line in caps hits hard 🔥 great hype statement hours before we face the end! Stay frosty friend see you in the wild

[@simonmandel2621]

I’m calling it now. The precursor species were ancient humans ❤️

[@elvisrelvis2774]

I’ve only played the first Destiny for a few hours and thought it was just ok. Looking at the Witness and reading up on some lore, I might want to finally play the game/this expansion. I usually play single player campaigns. Is this game truly worth buying?

[@vanessaoftheundead2613]

The story and lore is amazing but it isn’t a single player story game. If that’s actually what your looking for then you should probably look elsewhere

[@booyah09]

Its definitely fun, but not only do you have ALOT to catch up on, but it is now at a point where a lot of the good stiff is hidden behind pay walls. You have to purchase dungeon keys, and DLC that enables you to do several raids.

[@Thefirefan15]

The pyramids were first teased at the end of red war when the traveler woke up.

[@ten4c10us_ace]

Okay, I'll play along... what if the Witness name was the Litness and he traveled across the galaxy to see who's worthy of the drip, sparrows, and ships?

[@gson7288]

Basiclly the witness is Madura

[@lyr1x302]

Real

[@ChrisBrooks-k2r]

But what it the witness fear

[@mohammadgm1247]

Imagine bungie will make what if TV shows 🤔

[@ten4c10us_ace]

TV series period!! Endless amounts of content to chose from!! They're sitting on a goldmine!!!

[@Obozo_Gaming]

So. As a non-Destiny fan, is The Witness *THE* bad guy of Destiny?

[@TimWesley]

He is bad guy for the upcoming expansion The Final Shape which launches today June 4

[@Obozo_Gaming]

@@TimWesley Alright, thanks. I saw a couple places saying he was the main bad guy pulling the strings behind everything in both games.

[@ten4c10us_ace]

​@Obozo_Gaming there's some truth to that but the Witness is guided by the Winnower. Making him #2 in the chain of command.

[@edisonlaw934]

I wonder how difficult Salvation’s Edge (raid) will be and how hard this boss will be

[@adamboy0559]

So far from the released osts there’s 3 potential raid boss themes been picked out. Potentially then that means there’s 3 bosses in it along with puzzles. Could be wrong it’s all just speculation

[@LeViz101]

Has anyone ever questioned how are the pyramids ships paracausal?

[@HavelTheRock1119]

We not gonna mention the Illuminati symbol at around 6:30

[@Lenny4]

I want to know what the traveler is?

[@phifan-mia1503]

For those that don’t know the final story wasn’t average at best. But the gameplay is still smooth.

[@Reaper22352]

We seek an end to suffering. Why do you resist…?

[@wade_west]

Bungie been watching evangelion neon Genesis I see.

[@hardwellonair5255]

My witness, make me ( guardian) your disciple ❤

[@battymatty9854]

We seek an end to suffering. Why do you resist?

[@bori1008]

I think we need to lose. We are to cocky imo. We need to fail to come back stronger.

[@Lexbut]

Off topic but it I swear if they make a destiny 2 tv series or movie and f it up I’m going to BE SO MAD I bet there’s something in the works tho

[@johnmauricio5610]

At this point I'd be happy if the servers aren't messed up for 3 days like usual.

[@rafaelgomes8835]

Why... Why do i feel that defeating the witness isnt going to be as cut and dry as we think?

[@stickables3]

35 minutes ago, I've never been this early

[@Thecraziestmonkee]

It’s today🎉🎉🎉🎉

[@nathanlamb1794]

I can't wait to see more of your content love it. First

[@melvinjenkins7360]

I didn't know the witness was a whole race of aliens

[@ShervierJ]

The game did say it to be fair

[@JM1992]

You didn’t play Destiny this year? It was shown to us in season of the deep

[@melvinjenkins7360]

Yea but this story convoluted and I never really looked into it

[@Code-Red424]

​@@melvinjenkins7360 it's not that convoluted everything ties together pretty easily

[@SNIPERjeffO_O]

But what did it witness

[@Johnny-ln1ih]

I honestly don't care about the witness, i want to know what exactly its the traveler and who its inside, because most of the time i think the speaker its the traveler.🤣

[@patrickstoute4085]

I would love when Rhulk gets a change of heart and kicks the Witness to oblivion 😅 . We can only hope... 😁

[@GustavomendesReis-k2u]

He's too fanatic to do that

[@patrickstoute4085]

@@GustavomendesReis-k2u 😁nice one!!! 🤣.. im so getting it! This made my day! Thx !

[@adamboy0559]

Way too much of a servant. He pretty much worships the witness. It saved him and gave him his power he owes his existence to it.

[@lawrenceolmstead6615]

why do i HAVE A 29GB UPDATE FOR DESTINY 2

[@trailmountain8336]

Naruto: the final shape

[@ThatTomato19]

I'm hoping we can decide to serve the Witness if we want to Edit: Apparently I can't hope for this

[@Spartan-bl4pq]

Terrible take

[@ShervierJ]

Why tf do you think that would happen 😂

[@xXx_Regulus_xXx]

Destiny has never really had a branching storyline

[@ThatTomato19]

@@xXx_Regulus_xXx I know it probably won't happen but I can hope

[@ITACHI9005]

That definitely won’t happen this isn’t Skyrim

[@imnotgivingyoumyname810]

Please make him into an actual compelling villain instead of this planet wide unlifing amorphous blob of nothing.

[@MrBeefTot187]

We won’t be fighting the witness. Traveler will betray us and side with the witness and we’ll have destiny 3 revenge

[@Okino569]

Bruh

[@Code-Red424]

That literally makes absolutely no sense.

[@Johnny-ln1ih]

Naaaa The witness and the traveler will merge into one create the final shape and Destiny 3 The Final final shape.

[@goldengod31]

Alot of this seems like philosophical mumbo jumbo, just trying to complicate a simple premise. How can u impose meaning by just wiping out existence, I don’t get it. Thanks for the vid Evaze. You have been my primary lore master for sometime now.

[@saulw6270]

Because life breeds suffering the way to end all suffering is with no chaos a perfectly constructed final controlled outcome

[@gson7288]

It’s been a yr??? So much so stopping the witness asap. Who waits a yr. Vanguard is tripping wit poor strategy

[@Code-Red424]

It's not exactly that they waited it's just that they didn't know how to do it they were figuring it out those things take time lol

[@gson7288]

@@Code-Red424 naw, I woulda took blame riven for the egg search deal. It ws a yr my man’s; an emergency at tht they coulda did so much more. N moved faster

[@legendary5181]

I really love this expansion but I can't afford it😢, I don't even have lightfall

[@Felwinter0]

I hope the witness destroys us in the raid and achieve the final shape I want to know what is the final shape

[@adamboy0559]

Watch the launch trailer it shows it, those people being made into statues are what it seeks. If everything is frozen there is no death no life no suffering. It seeks to prevent all suffering and this is how it wants to do it

[@michealcamacho947]

E

[@willgoodall1529]

I still hate The Witness' character design. So cartoonish. It looks stupid

[@iurinardoni1622]

Education

[@hadrienbage4599]

The witness is just a random meaningless succession of words in the philosophy lexicon put together to try-hard make it seem like an in-depth vilain while its whole premise is just the usual “life is suffering, I am edgy big bad who wants to make the universe go kaboom” I am the first to enjoy digging into a character’s complexity when it’s intentional and planned from the beginning by the writers. The witness on the other hand is such an obvious instance of improvised, convoluted, cheap and superfluous meaningless gibberish that tries so hard to sound philosophical it seems like a 10 years old prompted chat gpt to write the thing. How can anyone not see the most generic vilain under this pile of Ali express grade philosophy is beyond me.