Evaluating Fallout 4's DLC- Incompetence meets brilliance

[@speks36]

I don't know if you'll see this but there is an alternate ending for Oswald in Nuka World. If you travel north to a town called Bradberton in Nuka World, you'll find the body of Oswald's girlfriend. On her body is a goodbye tape. If you present the tape to Oswald, he'll give up Kiddie Kingdom willingly after realizing he has no reason to stay.

[@TITAN_101]

Yah I feel that tape validates him "giving up on his protect the kingdom goal so easy" more

[@YOSEPHALLEN92]

I killed him to obtain his sword and hat ahahah

[@trikshotz2955]

@@YOSEPHALLEN92 it’s a cool hat

[@escalatingbarbarism5096]

@@YOSEPHALLEN92 You get his sword and hat no matter what.

[@hossdelgado626]

@@escalatingbarbarism5096 Guess they didn't wanna wait

[@definitelyhooman7939]

Something interesting about the Automatron DLC! If you enter the Mechanist's Lair dressed as the Silver Shround, she will begin addressing you as such. You'll have the option to speak as the Silver Shroud (similary to the original quest) and even get unique dialogue because "The Mechanist" was a villian from the original show (evidently the girl based her alter ego on the character). It's an interesting touch to an otherwise simple interaction, I just wish more of the game had moments like that.

[@Aceriex]

Nuka World also has the option to speak as the Shroud if you interact with the sheriffs in Dry Rock Gulch dressed as the Silver Shroud. one more interesting thing is that Overboss Colter will have different comments depending on your outfit (i.e. Vault suit, Silver Shroud outfit & power armor)

[@LadyDoomsinger]

I always wear the Shroud outfit, just because I have a thing for black trenchcoats. Hate the shroud dialogue options, though. The female PC voice sounds absolutely ridiculous (which is probably intentional, since her voice acting is pretty good otherwise.)

[@kasuraga]

I did a large portion of the game as the silver shroud specifically because of moments like this. It was really fun

[@cth0nic668]

can also sneak into her lair by getting some key or something dr, she freaks out about it. both concepts are combined with the silver shroud outfit as well.

[@Leotheleprachaun]

Isn't there flavour dialogue from Cito if you are cosplaying Grognak as well? Been a hot minute since I played Nuka World thanks to Gage being bugged after you place the final flagpole so it just keeps me in the dialogue camera with no control over anything. Can't even 3rd person camera to get out like the other times it happens ("Sturges, tell'r." Being one i remember as it happens EVERY time, so i don't even discover Concord anymore)

[@maxzapsgamingzepzeap2337]

Fun fact, if you’re wearing the full Silver Shroud outfit when meeting the Mechanist, you get entirely unique dialogue options that allow you to respond to them as if you were the Shroud

[@lolbuster01]

It's not really worth it, but it is cool that they did that.

[@iknowslotabouttanks7246]

Not only that but the silver shroud costume is actually usable in dialogue with sheriff hawk

[@shhs1227]

@@lolbuster01 it's a video game. nothing in it is worth doing unless you want to do it

[@bacd-nn2lg]

I don't think that he spend that much playtime in this game to try it out.

[@pilovwithketchup]

​@@shhs1227yeah but i think he's trying to say that the writers could've done a better job than to include a few lines that don't matter/don't change the course of the quest, fallout new Vegas for example would do a much better job

[@AshenVictor]

I think the biggest "you have to be a raider" problem in Nuka World is that the only stuff to raid is *your own stuff*. If there had been fewer player settlements and some of the sites had been occupied by other factions like the Gunners then putting raider settlements near them to funnel their resources into your settlements would have been a fun option.

[@wastelanderjb1]

You CAN actually raid into unclaimed settlements but if you do the minutemen quest to it's completion or near completion, then you have few or zero options to do that. It's obviously a ham-fisted "you get your evil / raider play option". I did another separate playthrough for Nuke World so I owned few settlements going into it and it was better. Still a crap DLC.

[@ernestomartinez-fortunazna7208]

absolutely. Raiding goodneighbour, taking over bunker hill, and a big final heist right in diamond city. Collaring anne codman? I say yes to that.

[@aprinnyonbreak1290]

I dunno. Constructing deathmachines that I pose to defend places that I then steal from seems like the perfect death spiral due to eccentricity and need to steal garbage at all costs to leave a Fallout 4 save file on

[@MultiKamil97]

Yeah, it sucked. I didn't help all those settlements, only to raid them afterwards. Where's the logic.

[@SotiCoto]

That is one half of the inherent contradiction of Nuka World. The other half is that it plays to an idea that doesn't work at all. There is zero incentive whatsoever to play nice with the Nuka World Raiders. Whether you're some hero of justice or a wandering murder-hobo looking to kill people and take their stuff, the logical result is the same: You go to Nuka World and kill everyone there. Teaming up with gangs of backstabbing psychopaths is not a sensible course of action for ANYONE... well, unless you're too weak to handle things yourself, in which case you're too weak for the DLC in the first place.

[@mattcollett9370]

I think the story of Nukaworld is lacking, eapecially if you choose the “good” ending. But I absolutely LOVE the location and clearing out the different parks. Also the music is amazing

[@johnadams2900]

Haven’t even bothered to play all the way through it. I love the idea of content focused exclusively on an evil play through, but it should be free content if it can’t cater well to both play styles. It’s a shame, because the few times I tried a play through of it the location is dope and has a lot of attention.

[@minecraftys]

Not sure how he got the audio bug with the arena pack leader segment. I never had that issue ever both on pc n console. Wonder did anyone else have tnat issue n i agree it would be annoying lol

[@roger5555ful]

The ambient "desert exploration" from Nuka World is VERY similar to new Vegas

[@mattcollett9370]

@@johnadams2900 an expansion this size definitely shouldn’t be free… just be the bad guy lol it aint that big of a deal

[@goovindnarula6470]

@@mattcollett9370 It should not be free what is saying that just be the bad guy LOL isn’t really fair in an rpg. Somewhat insulting

[@yyflame]

I like the “are YOU a synth” question in far harbor BECAUSE of how ridiculous it is when you actually think about it. It clues you in that Dima isn’t quite what he seems and is instead a charismatic manipulator who gets what he wants/needs out of people by whatever means necessary

[@ThrillaWhale]

I got the same vibe, and I do appreciate its implications. I was beyond done with dima when immediately after making a show of apologizing for killing and replacing avery, he then turned around and suggested the exact same thing with the Children. It sounded less like the final evil for everlasting peace and more of a scary continual blueprint for the future.

[@yyflame]

@@ThrillaWhale for me it clicked when finding out that not only is Kasumi not a synth, but Dima knew all along that she wasn’t a synth. It made me realize that Dima probably gives the “are you a synth?” spiel to everyone who walks through the door that he thinks could be of use to him. When first playing I started anticipating finding out that Dima was the only synth there lol. Obviously that didn’t happen but it would have been funny

[@ThrillaWhale]

@@yyflame Damn, that too.

[@tommylieb4863]

His "test" to see if you're a synth literally sounds like a cult leader. Something like "an unaccountable feeling of isolation, and a feeling that you belong somewhere else".

[@WorthlessDoNotReconnect]

@@tommylieb4863 But you ARE a synth, if you don't believe me, why can you use VATS before you have the pipboy

[@LabMatt]

Facing the Mechanist while dressed as the Silver Shroud is the most fun I had in that DLC

[@tsquishy7840]

i thought i was the only one. The dialogue that you can hear is just amazing

[@averymorgan7784]

Not the most fun iv ever had but it was funny as F

[@allenholloway5109]

@Johnt Schmichal One of my favorite things to do in base Fallout 4 was to constantly cosplay as the Silver Shroud as a roleplaying opportunity, because it was one of the few things that first had the beginnings of actual roleplay. Plus I already knew that the Mechanist was a comic book character from older Fallout games. It would make sense to add dialogue for that. The only reason I DIDN'T get the result organically is that I looked up stuff about the DLC before playing it.

[@CloppingIsMyThing]

@Johnt Schmichal Tbh the amount of people who find stuff organically in a game is very low.

[@logicalwren8061]

@Johnt Schmichal He probably did but just figured it out online

[@TheAwesomeDarkNinja]

I always thought it was funny how Sierra Petrovita managed to navigate Nuka World completely unscathed considering she hardly ever left her home in Fallout 3.

[@giovannicervantes2053]

She fiended so hard for quantum she grew a pair and left girdershade

[@Sammy-qx5mx]

Maybe the constant Nuka radiation gave her some strange sort of supernatural powers? The fallout series as a whole tends to play with the idea of magic, ghosts, and even aliens every now and then. So having a nuka powered mutant running around doesn't seem too out of the question for the series. Or maybe Sierra's already dead and what we see isn't a living person but just an echo of what once was...

[@giovannicervantes2053]

@@Sammy-qx5mx i mean if you drink enough quantum you'll start to piss pure strontium 90 blue

[@GritimoTheOdd]

I've assumed they didn't because they thought she was nuts. If she was so crazy/obsessed about Nuka Cola she was probably too crazy to enslave and she probably would not understand to follow orders and pop the bomb collar on her first day as a slave. but since her obsession/mania is nonviolent they just let her wander around because they think she is harmless. At least that's my head cannon anyways.

[@secondBAR]

Or maybe because entering from the commonwealth is seperate to entering from capital wasteland, and she probably bribed the raiders, lord knows a girl that drinks that much nuka cola would have a lot of caps to give out

[@kikrinman1450]

It's too bad you didn't notice that the "Tourist Lady" Sierra, is a returning character from Fallout 3, where she had her own Nuka Cola related sidequest. Edit: You should give this game the New Vegas treatment, where you make a third video about sidequests and companion quests. It's a meaty part of the game, and you're really missing alot otherwise.

[@beepbeeplettuce5890]

I mean, I once played fallout 3 Then 4 back to back and I didn't even notice

[@Astroman10]

Maybe that's because most players probably didn't even find/care about Tourist Lady ...

[@warandconquest6522]

Alexei Galloway the real question is: did you pimp her out for the more caps from her neighbor

[@johnadams2900]

@@warandconquest6522 gotta help a bro plow that beanfield

[@steelrain714]

@@beepbeeplettuce5890 her quest required like 100 nuka quantums so there was no point in doing Edit: it was only 30

[@clearspira]

Vault 88 is the biggest waste of potential in the franchise to date. Despite every Fallout fan since the beginning of the series wanting to roleplay as an Overseer in their own custom vault at some point in their lives, Fallout 4 gives us what is basically a big settlement with a few crappy missions attached.

[@wesss9353]

The npc pathing was stupid, they group up and don't do anything...

[@JJ-tc5tt]

Only if we could use overseer terminal to see and build the vault like what we could do in Fallout Shelter. Well, at least that was the thing I was expect when I saw the screenshots of that DLC which looks kinda like Fallout Shelter.

[@jakechristensen6961]

@@wesss9353 that happens in almost every settlement if you have enough stuff built, bc the vanilla settlement system is a little shaky

[@wesss9353]

@@jakechristensen6961 that was the only settlement I tried to build up... I mostly build water farms... Fallout 76 sucked for a water farm

[@mr.i.a8026]

but hey at least this dlc gave us a waifu ghoul.

[@baddragonite]

Bethesda seems just so afraid that the player will miss out on something or anything at all. They don't really allow you to fail and as a result no playthrough is really unique.

[@lorencproductions]

It’s really the polar opposite of something like Dragon Age Origins or New Vegas in that way. An interactive movie rather than an actual role playing game.

[@LadyDoomsinger]

I'm starting to think Morrowind was a complete fluke, that they never intended to have a deep and compelling story, and the lore and intricate political drama was all accidental. That, or they realized it was way too much work to put into a game, when a basic action-shooter with the barest pretense of a story was enough to get people to pay them.

[@themudpit621]

Lots of the good content is hidden and entirely optional. You can even leave Preston in the church and never meet him, game adapts. Same with any faction except the institute. Plenty of unique playthroughs, just gotta think outside the box. What impresses me when I do this is how they planned for it all.

[@LadyDoomsinger]

@@themudpit621 Of course. Well all know the mark of good game development is to hide the content where most players never see it.

[@CantusTropus]

@@LadyDoomsinger I think it's more the case that their game design philosophy has changed drastically since those days. Oblivion taught them that dumbing down was the way to go and Skyrim's overwhelming success only reinforced that lesson, hard locking them into that development mindset for the next decade at bare minimum (realistically, it's probably going to take longer to get out of it if they ever do, maybe if Starfield and TES 6 are massive failures it might happen but I wouldn't count on it).

[@_The_God_King_]

Taking Nick to Far Harbor makes the Acadia experience far more memorable

[@chrisbutler3353]

This is such a good idea. I'm doing my dlc on my current character before I finish the main story. And I was aligned with the brotherhood. Just after securing all the nukes at fort strong. And after going to Acadia. And only scratching tbe surface of things. I am hoping when you have to kill danse that maybe he can go to acadia or sometning. I'm for sure going and getting valentine. I feel for the synths so I am going to end my allegiance woth tbe brotherhood. Unless i find out the synths are pos then I hope i can tell the brotherhood aboht them and we can Kill them. So many possibilities. I love this game. And I am ao happy to have finally commitwd to it.

[@_The_God_King_]

@@chrisbutler3353 Nice!; Enjoy :)

[@Dr-Weird]

I accidentally took him with me when I met dima the first time. Made me love nick so much more, felt like I was the "Friday" to his detective.

[@_The_God_King_]

@@Dr-Weird That's awesome!! :)

[@Aishatwo2]

Very true

[@tuph4088]

There's actually a mod for Nuka World where you can launch a minute man attack to take back Nuka World. It's pretty neat.

[@Greenley013]

I love that mod it adds to the pile of "why wasn't this included already"

[@BC21beats]

@Andrew Ryan well too bad I marked another settlement on your map

[@GevlekteWalruz]

*sad ps4 noises*

[@MyNameIsGhost]

Well too bad I wanted to be a raider the whole time 😈😈

[@tuph4088]

@@Greenley013 'adds to the pile of "why wasn't this included already"' if that isn't the perfect way of describing Bethesda's content, I don't know what is.

[@IsaacClodfelter]

It is incomprehensible that the genuinely great writing of far harbor exists in the same game as Preston Garvey

[@wheatgod9125]

when you realize bethesda just stole far harbors story from a mod, it really isn’t

[@thelel6591]

@@wheatgod9125 shutup. the author of the mod even denied that they stole from him

[@eyeballpaul700]

@@wheatgod9125 complete, bare faced lie

[@ShadowSonic2]

I mean, Preston's not that different from Yes-Man...

[@IsaacClodfelter]

@@ShadowSonic2 while they may serve a similar purpose their execution couldn't be more different.

[@vithepiltoverenforcer8778]

Oh yeah, the whole "build your own vault" was appealing til I realized just how much of the vault space was, and would remain, empty space. On top of that, the experiments were extremely limited and uninspired, especially with all of the vaults that you got to explore across multiple games.

[@Destroyer_V0]

There is only so much you can do before the lag gets too bad. Filling out the starting space is pretty feasible, alongside some decent room furnishing... but ya start to feel it is about as far as you can go when spotlight turrets lamps don't work.

[@ramiel7666]

I just shot the overseer ghoul in the face and left.....

[@dammarxo]

It just works

[@delta2372]

Like the guy said it would have been better if the vault was already built with rooms and you just need to add furniture, electricity, food purified water etc and you have an open door to the vast constitution site that you can explore.

[@bennyheadofthechairmen8808]

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[@wruxiz6104]

The story with Dima creating a refuge to escape the grasp of the Institute, just for him to resort to their ways and become what he sought to be free of in the first place, I thought atleast, was really great story writing on bethesdas half

[@EnclaveSgt]

Yeah that was actually a genius twist. Fortunately I was gonna wipe out the synths anyway. I always side with Allan Lee, and wipe everyone out including Avery

[@pedrovasquez3535]

@@EnclaveSgt bro

[@cannondorf]

@@pedrovasquez3535 what do you expect from Enclave scum?

[@cleshsesh6155]

@@pedrovasquez3535 Man's called Enclave corporal what you expect tbh ahaha

[@EnclaveSgt]

@@TigerWave01 God bless the Enclave and America brother

[@josephg2011]

I’m kinda sad you didn’t do the RoboBrain vault side quest in Far harbour

[@emptykey3699]

This quest is bugged, sometimes you can't start it at all

[@zachdave3803]

Really never had any problems with it and always enjoyed that quest.

[@jaywerner8415]

@@emptykey3699 Not that im aware of, maybe he just didn't visit the vault.

[@emptykey3699]

@@jaywerner8415 as far as I remember you have to be hired by robot to start this quest, in my first playthrough robot didnt appear at all.

[@DJWolfHouse]

For real

[@Rougerogue1]

I found the companions individual quests to actually be some of the best in the game so I'd say it's worth it, especially for Cait and Macreedy.

[@BucketOfFail]

I loved Cait's questline.

[@gewuerzwanze5627]

Since mcready is way too whiny for me i never took him along. Whats his quest about?

[@honorguard7616]

@@gewuerzwanze5627 Family to sum it up without spoilers

[@glowhoo9226]

@@gewuerzwanze5627 his son is dying from some kind of plague and you help him track down a cure.

[@twistedintent7963]

Macreedy does not even go to give his son the cure. It would of been cool to see his actually leave and get a new quest a month later in game about his travels and a third option to give him a false cure to be extra evil, not really interesting, additionally you never heard about his son ever again

[@practicaleffectsofficial]

"Incompetence meets brilliance" should be Bethesda's official slogan

[@falksi3182]

No. Just "Incompetence meets more Incompetence"

[@Shellackle]

Maybe "Incompetence sometimes meets brilliance"

[@smooth37]

Nuka World could have been so much more if the rides could be fixed and NPCs could visit each land. Still fun, but I get the feeling that something was cut from it.

[@bucky699]

No their slogan is "its not a bug its a feature"

[@randgrithr7387]

I think there's a little of that slogan in us all.

[@MoostachedSaiyanPrince]

I legitimately love the Automatron DLC for the Robot customization alone. The fact that I can take Codsworth and turn him into a Sentry Bot with industrial construction equipment and Tesla coils for weapons is nothing short of spectacular.

[@aidenpommee766]

Is his pathing still fucked tho?

[@georgekerscher5355]

But then you can't have him wear a bowler hat

[@HendyVelarius]

I should note Codsworth is a special mr. Handy and has significantly better stats than the mr. Handy you can build in the workbench. Its much better to build custom ones rather than editing him. He lose his bonus stats the moment you put him in workbench.

[@MoostachedSaiyanPrince]

@@HendyVelarius I don't care one bit about the stat hit. Roaming the Commonwealth with a literal murder machine that politely speaks with a British accent and calls me master is worth whatever stat tradeoff I have to make to get it.

[@jerry3790]

I love the fact you can talk to the mechanist as the silver shroud

[@swaws7810]

My favorite thing about Far Harbor is that they allow a chaotic evil ending, where you convince Dima to go to Far Harbor, rally the residents into attacking Arcadia, detonate the nuclear submarine, and shut off the fog condensers. I haven't seen anyone talk about this intricacy of the DLC and it makes me wonder if anyone else has done the same thing. Besides that I also liked the option of informing the Institute or the Brotherhood about Arcadia and basically instigating an occupation on the island.

[@thesealtamer9910]

Yup I love that you can say fuck it and just ruin everything. In my “evil” character I just let everyone get decimated. Bombed the children without convincing them to do it. I don’t want them to die willingly. Turned off the condensers and went in just to see the animals kills everyone. Made sure the girl you’re looking for stayed in Acadia then informed the institute about it and reclaimed them.

[@boneman-calciumenjoyer8290]

You can actually pull that off in multiple ways, I murdered far Harbor and the Nucleus, while getting the brotherhood to destroy Arcadia. Wasn't expecting bathesda to let you do that.

[@capnskurk8679]

@@7735a I killed preston in my world he pissed me off too much xD

[@Garnog404]

@@capnskurk8679 I always send Preston to the Castle and let him wear the General Uniform. Keeps him happy and away from my homies.

[@john-paulsilke893]

@@Garnog404 give him a settlement to himself. For extra fun send any synths you find in your settlements to live with him.

[@Arcian]

It actually boggles my mind that the same people who made Fallout 4 made Far Harbor. Just goes to show they are capable of making great things, they just choose not to most of the time.

[@prestonm-f382]

Fun fact! The lead writer of Far Harbor is a different person than the lead writer of 4 or Nuka World!

[@yerite2521]

I remember hearing they worked on Nuka World and Far Harbor at the same time as two different teams. So I guess the Far Harbor team had some real big Fallout fans in there while Nuka World seemed to have the more "shootery/haha funny characters" side of BGS

[@Kris-ok2eu]

@@prestonm-f382 yeah it’s not Emil Pagliarulo as a lead writer which is exactly why far harbour is really good.

[@legion999]

@Arcian Exactly, this is what pisses me off most, FH shows bethesda as a whole is still capable of good things, but they just dont do them

[@nagashtheundyingking4404]

Also have a theory that the developers and designers have great talent it's just the higher ups breathing on their necks for cash

[@urdad9724]

I do love how wandering the fog in far harbor you never feel comfortable or safe the atmosphere is great

[@LadyDoomsinger]

I kinda wish it was impossible to target the Hermit Crabs in VATS until they "activated". Like how the Spore Carriers in New Vegas worked. You gotta wonder how the VATS system distinguishes living creatures from environment and objects. Is it movement? Body heat? Noise? How does it know what is alive and what is not.

[@povotaknight2063]

@@LadyDoomsinger probably heat. Every enemy has heat I think.

[@LadyDoomsinger]

@@povotaknight2063 Yeah, but friendlies have heat too? So does engines and terminals. And if machinery has a "different" heat signature than living creatures - why are 1st and 2nd gen Synths counted as "life forms"? I'm definitely overthinking this...

[@povotaknight2063]

@@LadyDoomsinger I guess for robots it's heat generated by the machinery? This is also just video game logic

[@bennyheadofthechairmen8808]

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[@kireta21]

Bradberton being reduced to head in jar in vault hidden under Nuka World is a reference to popular myth that Walt Disney had his head cryogenically frozen and hidded somewhere under Disneyland. Truth is, while Disney expressed interest in being cryopreserved after his death, he died before cryo facility was ready to accept "clients", and was cremated instead.

[@marsmonke4160]

Ironic that he got cremated

[@iLuv2Cheat]

pfft, that's EXACTLY what a trillionaire head living in a glass jar under Disney Land plotting global domination would want you to think...wake up sheeple.

[@sharkslayer6581]

That's what the liberal media wants you to think. I know the truth. I've seen the head...

[@Pieguy123456789100]

You can later inform the brotherhood or the institute about the synth colony on Acadia and then they’ll raid the colony with you joining the raid.

[@USN1985dos]

When I returned to Maxon the first time after wiping out Acadia with the people of Far Harbor, I was really hoping for a congratulations on my slaughter.

[@giovannicervantes2053]

I think you can also rat them out to the institute or inform the railroad about them or something

[@eustacebagge5873]

His girl died, if you find her corpse and holotape before encountering Oswald, you can give him the holotape and he will leave with his ghoul folk and live life rather than stay at Nuka World

[@YourVideosDogchitHeresWhy]

Where's the dead bch bro?

[@alterbaum1271]

@@YourVideosDogchitHeresWhy Northeastern corner of the map, town/village called Bradberton.

[@declanmillar6356]

The first time I encountered the Hermit Crab I thought it was just a burnt out van in the parking lot. It scared the ever loving hell out of me. Far Harbour has probably the best Enviroment/Local Enemies in any Fallout Title

[@LadyDoomsinger]

I kinda wish VATS didn't work on them until they attacked. Like the Spore Carriers in New Vegas.

[@povotaknight2063]

@@LadyDoomsinger god I hated that vault

[@LadyDoomsinger]

@@povotaknight2063 Really? I thought it was awesomely creepy. Like an isolated little horror game in the middle of an RPG. Only thing that really bugged me about it, was how I kept blowing myself up trying to purge the spores. Had to resort to using Turbo to have enough time to run when the gas exploded.

[@masterblaster2678]

@@LadyDoomsinger It had a cool design and all, but still. Fuck. That. Vault. Not saying it out of genuine hatred or dislike, just. Man it's so creepy in there.

[@LadyDoomsinger]

@@masterblaster2678 That's what made it so great.

[@thesologoldfish]

43:53 Cait actually had a really good quest line and her VA did a really good job, her whole thing was you helping her with her drug addiction

[@artful620]

I like curie too, I love the fact it's a robot that wants to be human. I do the quest everytime (mainly for her op stims)

[@warp302]

@ArtfulBoss620 curie is literally the most op companion in game becuse she will loot wepons on her own after you get her a gen 3 body and switch them up depending on what's happing

[@samakiraroyjanssen6326]

@@warp302 she also doesn’t have up that scales with you. Just straight up 600+ hp, more than any other if you were lvl 100.

[@warp302]

@Samakira Roy Janssen I didn't know that I just remember I hot her in her human synth body and I gave her like a hunting rifle or something go kill some raiders and then all of sudden she has a flamer just Barbecuing raiders and I'm just like did she auto loot someone for that dam

[@artful620]

@@samakiraroyjanssen6326 with or without power armor?

[@Icebrick2]

Aw, I'm disappointed you missed the rest of the Mariner's questline.

[@tinyman1144]

Especially when you hunt the red death. Man the way she explains the size of it when you tell her to tell the truth, sooo funny

[@bigbastard7582]

And the murder mystery at the robo-brain vault

[@ceilingfan3589]

Also the bowling ball launcher ( i forgot the name of it)

[@Palerax]

@@tinyman1144 You wouldn't believe how much I tooled up before facing the Red Death.

[@tinyman1144]

@@Palerax Oh man. Same. Never laughed harder in all of fallout 4 than when I saw it after doing prep (even tried loading an extra gun I couldn't fit into my carry weight on the boat, not that that worked anyway because it isnt the same boat the whole way there you get teleported onto a new one)

[@nickharper8682]

RIP dogmeat, seeing him on that poster reminded me he passed only recently.

[@cdogthehedgehog6923]

The fuck

[@TalicoKat]

@@cdogthehedgehog6923 The actual dog they used for Dogmeat died, from what I recall

[@cdogthehedgehog6923]

@@TalicoKat well that's a fact I didn't need to know. Bummer.

[@JonathanRossRogers]

Puppies!

[@o.o1389]

River the dog that was cast and voiced Dogmeat. Thought it was funny they used a female dog actor for a male dog part.

[@StrayFinality0]

1:08:31 I felt so bad for DiMA here, just the way he talks he sounds like he genuinely is having a sort of internal crisis and deep sorrow for what had happened without him being able to remember. Easily the most relatable character on an emotional level

[@davidhong1934]

Then, he remembers that he's supposed to be the Fallout 4 version of Ulysses, so he immediately reminds you that there's no way to resolve the Far Habor storyline peacefully, letting you decide which of the available options (all but one designed by Dima himself) is least bad.

[@Bacxaber]

@@davidhong1934 Is he though? Ulysses is a failed attempt at a mirror character, like the ebony warrior in Elder Scrolls. Basically an endgame god like you, to either provide a tough fight or to make you feel bad for the things you do in videogames. But DiMA doesn't do either of those things.

[@davidhong1934]

@@Bacxaber Both _New Vegas_ and _Fallout 4_ give you the option to make big decisions that will change their respective regions. Ulysses and DiMA are there to ask you, the player, if that's something you're ready for. If Ulysses is a look into the dirty truths left hidden in the present, DiMA is a look into the past, and both are supposed to inform you of the decisions you have or will take. Ulysses tells the Courier that society, for what it's worth, is still deeply flawed, despite all the attempts to keep the ugliness hidden. - Caesar's Legion will die with him -The NCR is run by bureaucrats loyal more to personal desires than their nation - House will inevitably turn the world into a row of smiling computer screens - An independent Vegas will be run by tribals one step away from reverting to their fomer savagery No matter the choice the Courier makes, the flaws will remain. Ulysses simply hopes that the Courier will either be wise enough to confront them or be strong enough to blow it all up and stert over. DiMA is an explanation for why the Institute exists as it does. Early on, people in the Institute really did want to keep the peace, but everyone in the Commonwealth hated them, especially after the provincial government collapsed. At some point, to minimize the damage, some9ne like DiMA probably tried replacing a settlement leader with a Synth. When it worked, the institute tried it again. And again. And again. By the time the Sole Survivor meets Father, they've been doing this for so long that it's become normal, and they can't understand why they shouldn't. It doesn't matter if the Sole Survivor agrees with the Institute. All that matters is understanding why they do what they do. One day, when the Commonwealth is rebuilt, when society is at it's most fragile, that decision will come up again, and it won't be pretty.

[@rogerphone481]

@@davidhong1934 who are you, who are so wise in the ways of science

[@bennyheadofthechairmen8808]

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[@colemantrebor1610]

Best part about far harbor is real and consequential skill checks. It really makes the whole experience feel much more like classic fallout.

[@thatnonody8983]

As someone who was born and raised in Maine for 18 years, Far Harbor is the ONLY reason why I play the game, the atmosphere, the old ports, the story, man it was.. Nostalgic to come back in Fallout form.

[@marcc16]

Seeing Bar Harbor from the top of Cadillac mountain at sunrise is magical.

[@Darkhunter218]

Not that I'm from Zion National park but the feeling/atmosphere of Honest Hearts made it one of my favorite expansions. Far harbor is pretty amazing I could definitely see why you would choose it as your favorite.

[@tazmania7785]

I've never been to Maine but I've always liked The Costal environments. I liked Far Harbor

[@TheCocomunges]

I’ve visited Maine multiple times(Bar Harbor) was hilarious to hear him call Far Harbor “Bostony” can’t imagine Maine people would take lightly to that

[@100acatfishandwillbreakyou2]

@@TheCocomunges Did you go through New Hampshire to get there?

[@casedistorted]

“You can spare her and she will become a merchant, or you can shoot her and she’ll become a part of the ground” I died.

[@joshuaxiong8377]

Sounds like you became part of the ground.

[@Asuka.the.Perfectionistic]

@@joshuaxiong8377 lmaoo

[@Ma1q444]

Are you still dead

[@AlliedX]

She did too

[@krixpop]

so Chris Anderson, how does it feel to be part of the ground? asking for a friend ...

[@KAPTAINmORGANnWo4eva]

The idea of having 46 INT on a 10 point scale made me die laughing for some reason

[@EinFelsbrocken]

460 IQ 😎😎

[@GinSoakedBrain]

You can overdrive all SPECIAL stats by 1 (total 11) permanently using debufs from drug addictions once all SPECIAL stats are at 10 and then grabbing a bobble head. Moreover, one SPECIAL stat can be 12 permanently by debuffing and reading the You're Special book. Lastly, any stat can be temporary buffed with drugs which is what the Hubologists are doing. It's just a fun quest to do for an intelligence build character.

[@logicalwren8061]

@Phani teja The point is having 4.6× more of a stat than what is allowed. And to be fair while I'm not sure if its canon or not Fo3 and FNV have special in day to day. Vigor Tester and the You're Special book

[@bouin91]

@@EinFelsbrocken man, the idea of 1point SPECIAL = 10 IQ points, has me rolling. 10 points in SPECIAL is 100 IQ genius.

[@EinFelsbrocken]

@@bouin91 tbf; apparently 100 is our real world average; so I shouldve went with 20 IQ per Special point. But my already bad joke would even be worse/less understandable if I wrote "920 IQ" 😂

[@mizar892]

The operator drug that only works on farmers DOES come into play. When you finish recapturing all the parks, you get to start capturing commonwealth settlements as a raider. You can get the drug from the operators that makes persuading settlers (instead of just killing them) to fork over supplies.

[@zeyolivetree]

I always thought when DiMa asks you about being a synth that he was just trying to prove the point that the line between synthetic and organic is thinner than you think, rather than being a genuine plot point.

[@Hello-lf1xs]

That makes a lot of sense honestly given how close Gen 3(?)synths are to humans as a whole

[@ScriptDefect]

@@Hello-lf1xs there’s also a terminal in the institute that talks about a synth that can slow time and tell the percentage on what it can hit

[@monkeyporche225]

I always thought the "Are you a synth" arguement was flimsy and could literally be applied to anyone at all since memories can be plugged into synths. So anyone weak willed enough could be convinced they were a synth which is annoying.

[@SotiCoto]

Its poignance or lack thereof hinges entirely on whether you consider the division between human and synth to be a meaningful one or not. The distinction meant about as much to me as my character's blood-type... which is to say I couldn't even begin to give a fuck. And even the ways the player character has to answer the question convey far too much conviction and intensity for a topic I was long since sick to death of.

[@pejman3]

@@ScriptDefect these are all moot because synth are unaffected by radiation (thanks to the fact that they are made with FEV) so the player character being able to experience the effects of radiation or even have some mutations (through perks) outright makes it impossible for him to be a synth

[@LASAGNA_LARRY]

Did he not do the quest "Brain Dead" at the Cliff's Edge Hotel? It's honestly one of the best and most unique side quests in all of Fallout 4.

[@YeTheGOATNoCap]

Bethesad kinda ripped off a modder who made a very similar questline.

[@J.B.1982]

That was good and he didn’t cover it or missed it. I didn’t do it myself the first time around because I just forgot about meeting that robot at the hotel.

[@theketaminekid1241]

@@YeTheGOATNoCap Yeah okay dude.

[@ellie8674]

@@YeTheGOATNoCap i mean yeah it's got a similar premise, but the details themselves are very different.

[@Nopers_]

@@YeTheGOATNoCap This feels like saying someone copied the Simpson’s. Modding has it’s finger prints everywhere, it’d be hard not to at some point.

[@vendetta543]

0 out of 10. Didn’t talk about the epic boss fight with the Red Death.

[@alexandrehenrique7203]

you can only kill him with a *mini nuke* to the eye, my grandpappy told me that, he did, we also need the entire marines, otherwise its basically impossible

[@adamgray1753]

The Red Death is the best pair of menacing red flashlights ever! With the appropriate mod(s) you can turn the Red Death into the most magnificent fleshlight ever.

[@RitzyYeti]

@@adamgray1753 I really hope that is a typo...

[@gratuitouslurking8610]

Shin Red Death is a good add-on with this to be fair. Gives the proper respect it deserves.

[@rust9542]

@@RitzyYeti I hope its not...

[@coolvideos605]

At the end when DIMA is executed by far harbor it leaves me with a quote, “Just because you do the right thing doesn’t mean you get to feel right in the end”

[@LadyDoomsinger]

The coolest thing about building your own robots, is when you mass produce them to serve as Provisioners between your settlements - basically connecting the entire Commonwealth with robot supply lines that also happen to clear the roads of any hostiles that spawn nearby. This is particularly useful in survival mode.

[@TheOldMan-75]

I just wish these settlements had a bit more of an impact than basically just roleplaying in your head that you've made some NPCs a little happier.

[@LadyDoomsinger]

@@TheOldMan-75 Agreed

[@Kspice9000]

No! Settlement lines are for those I force to walk the wastes with a knife and a sack on their head. Looking at Marcy

[@jamiehall-hanlon3104]

@@TheOldMan-75 100%

[@SmEiF-]

if the next fallout non online or online game doesnt involve all out settlement wars im not interested it past time we have that

[@doarner]

Another aspect of the Automatron DLC involves the half questioned half liked mechanic of building settlements, if you put a robot as a supplier for each settlement their morale doesn't go down for some reason, that keeps you building robots and making the settlement with the robot station the main target of every raider, super mutant and synth on the Commonwealth.

[@adamgray1753]

Wait, what?! You mean I can somehow get *ONE* of my Settlements to act as the singular "Trouble Beacon" so none of my other Settlements get attacked, doarner? Sorry, if I sound stupid about this. This is literally the first time I ever heard of this concept. Every time time I have ever done the Automatron DLC I breezed through it never putting any real thought towards anything else about it.

[@PlebNC]

This is new to me. I'm aware that robot companions have fixed happiness so they're detrimental if you want max happiness as they can't be more happy. This makes sense logically but heavily decentivises using them as settlers. Although not gonna lie there's some amazing mods for Automatron like Thomas the Tank Engine sentry bots and customisable Securitrons.

[@doarner]

@@adamgray1753 It has something to do with the morale of the settlement, when you send a human settler for trading the happiness of its origin site lowers a bit and apparently, i am not sure haven't seen it in my gameplay, it won't raise above a certain percent if the human remains as trader, with robots that doesn't happen. The problem is how many robots are sent from one settlement in particular, i used Red Rocket and always showed around 17 to 20 settlers, all robots trading and everytime there was an attack with 6 auto turrets and Codsworth, Ada and Jezebel fully upgraded.

[@a.monach7602]

An amazing way of using the robots for settlements is as supply convoys. Use Graygarden, Mechanist's Lair, and Boston Airport as links to not affect settlement happiness. Having 100+ Brahmin guards patrolling the Commonwealth is what I describe as the "endgame" of Automatron.

[@angellovecharm7759]

I always felt like you could've found a holdout of traders in the galactic zone (cause of the insane defence possibilities) giving you a different faction than just the raiders and fleshing out the non-raider option

[@adaptorperish1322]

I agree. Managing to hack the robots there (since, you know, traders aren’t very good fighters), would make sense plot-wise. Like, if you would’ve sided with the merchants, one of the enslaved people in the main park is a tech-savvy dude, who could’ve worked there in the past and still have an override password or something. Or you could trick him to give it to you. Or send him there and then kill him, because raiders and all that. It is a missed opportunity, but the update was big enough already.

[@tinyman1144]

Let's be honest here, we could spend ALL DAY coming up with many, many ways the nuka world could have been improved choice and story-wise

[@adamgray1753]

And Todd Howard would have us all on his Ignore List, @@tinyman1144. Why? Literally anything is better than what we got in the Nukaworld DLC.

[@LeriHunter]

@@adamgray1753 Because the last time some modders hyped their product, it was The Frontier.

[@Gooopi]

I love how in the vault Tec workshop they basically tell you the missions are bad by allowing u to just throw out the overseer

[@holmanthehorror6127]

As In the quests are bad quests or that you are asked to do bad things? I personally enjoyed the experiment quests.

[@awkwardGardener]

Fun Fact: he's uncreditted but the announcer/radio show host in Nuka World, Redeye, is voiced by Andrew WK Also the whole thing with the Operators' chemical experiment is actually a thing there you can get chemical grenades that make intimidating settlements easier. It's small but still kinda neat. Also also if you have Robotics Expert you can actually use it in unique speech checks to bypass the mini quests in Dry Rock Gulch. You can also bypass these if you go there dressed as the Silver Shroud with even more unique dialogue. Nuka world has some actually good additions, but too bad it's so otherwise kinda meh overall and these changes were only added in the game's final DLC.

[@Joey-rs7uq]

There were a lot of little nice thing in Nuka World, I enjoyed the mystery murder mansion in the south west of the map as well. Making a raider theme park is a really cool idea and fits the quirky fallout dark humor well, I just think the bones and story of the DLC couldn't hold it up and it just deflates like an hour in. Lots of missed potential.

[@toiletcomputer]

No way, I dint know that was Andrew wk

[@kelduarjudgester9083]

I liked walking around Nuka World as the silver shroud because some unique dialogue. The Mechanist fight has a lot of dialogue if you’re wearing The Silver Shroud costume as well, disappointed he didn’t know that before hand because it makes the story a little more interesting

[@SharkyMcSnarkface]

Honestly my favourite thing in the dlc was Nate's cowboy speak. I bet the VA had a lot of fun doing those lines.

[@amg4436]

There's another end to far harbour, able to return to the commonwealth and relay news to the factions. Brotherhood invading Acadea was fantastic

[@Dirty_Harambe]

Came here to say this

[@primary2630]

Damn I didn't know that

[@Dillpickle1997]

I was doing a full blown Brotherhood fanatic run and went to tell on Arcadia on a hunch. Had no idea they would ACTUALLY go there in force Blitzkrieg-style

[@dicedude1071]

Sadly the only interaction with children of atom in the commonwealth post far harbor is a single line of dialogue in the crater. I wish it turned children of atom friendly, and maybe had some questing in the main map too

[@titanjakob1056]

I remember screaming “death to heretic- I mean synths burn in holy fire!”

[@DKlett1]

I also remember being able to alert the Brotherhood of Steel of Acadia‘s existence and them coming in and fucking shit up

[@collincaperton6718]

You can also alert the institute and they come to reclaim their synths

[@ramiromen6595]

The railroad too, yet i don't know what they do

[@collincaperton6718]

@@ramiromen6595 they just send an agent over to investigate and protect it from future attacks

[@METALmurdererOG]

@@collincaperton6718 so their usual nothing useful?

[@sealtealforever5397]

@@METALmurdererOG Lol so true, hate the railroad and I only have one save because they are so bad

[@Havenosoul]

My favorite part of far harbor is finding that vault with all the robobrains that make you solve a murder mystery. And the unusual option to bang the robobrain girl was way funnier than it needed to be.

[@warp302]

What

[@Havenosoul]

@@warp302 I didn’t stutter

[@warp302]

@richard stevens I need to get a new pc so I can replay fallout 4 cuz I don't remember any vaults in far harbor that's more or less what my what was about 😅

[@Havenosoul]

@@warp302 you find it basically by exploring the island and there’s nothing that points you to it if I recall correctly. Fun times.

[@warp302]

@richard stevens alright when I get a new pc I'll definitely have to go exploring some more funny I can run new Vegas no problem but fallout 4 nope

[@borisasenov7982]

Also you do know that there`s a vault full of robots in Far Harbor and you have to solve a murder mystery, right? RIGHT??? I know it`s just a side quest, but it`s an ACTUALLY GOOD side quest in Fallout 4. And for me it`s probably the only memorable vault in the game. Hope you haven`t missed it. Otherwise great video as always! Cheers!

[@ProSurviver]

@@deanrazor9023 there's a mod for new Vegas called autumn leaves which is pretty similar

[@harmfulmelody5958]

@@deanrazor9023 a murder mystery isn't exactly a new or original concept, and if you want to go with it being a ripoff then that mod alongside many other murder mystery's are also ripoff's.

[@Alucard-gt1zf]

@@deanrazor9023 yes it was inspired by that mod, but all mod designs are owned by Bethesda as per the terms of service so so what?

[@polishrocker93]

@@harmfulmelody5958 the OP was simply saying it was a quality quest. Nothing was mentioned about it being original. Almost everything in today’s world is a ripoff, but what matters is you do it in a way that stands out from the crowd.

[@LinkedUno]

5 years later when I think of Fallout 4 I only remember 3 quests: - The Cabot House quest (F4's alien quest) - Cait's companion quest - That one murder-mystery vault in Far Harbor I'd say that there are some good quests in this game, but they are submerged in a sea of radiant quests and busybody work. Unless I had a list of notable quests to actively seek out I'd rather save the time if I were you.

[@ClonesDream]

What about the pirate robots on their flying pirate boat? That's the one I remember most.

[@MasterGordon5115]

I remember one quest where you go into a submarine out in the commonwealth. Then you find out it's a Chinese sub from the great war. That quest was cool

[@LinkedUno]

Yeah, both of these were also good. Maybe we can list them in this thread as we remember them so Salt can choose whether to play them or not.

[@ItsRawdraft2]

Nick's companion quest was awesome too

[@GlaDi02]

Too bad that you look for quests when there is another settelment that needs your help. Anyway you are right. There were more memorable quests, but they are drown in the Glowing Sea of Prestons fucking settlements. Or Rhyse bitching. One with mayor of diamond city was cool. Right before blowing up the instititute.

[@evilkermit8104]

I accidentally put 4 fusion cores in the UFO on my first playthrough and was very confused by what happened.

[@ogloc6308]

Same lol

[@犬井いぬい]

Not only did I put 4 cores into the UFO, I stopped the spinning early so everyone’s head exploded while the ride was stationary. Needless to say it was extremely confusing.

[@TheRealAdaWong]

This game totally missed the “evil clone” opportunity, it would’ve made for some fun post-story content to go hunting after your evil doppelgänger. I remember installing a Terminator mod that sends your spouse, Preston Garvey, and your character model from the beginning after you as a Stalker type! It was so trippy fighting “myself” as well as actually exciting to run into them at random places. I remember they followed me to Nuka World, so before I could even fight the Overboss, I was flanked out of nowhere by murderbots. It was genuinely more memorable than most of the scripted scenarios that are few and far between.

[@VadymMykhailovskyi]

But what about Cliff’s Edge Hotel? It is a decent quest to mention. In Far Harbor.

[@redbasher636]

He really doesn't explore much.

[@fatalmistakes7773]

If previous trends hold, side quests are next in another video lol

[@svenskallaru9466]

It's just an autumn leaves rip off

[@yvindvego9404]

@@svenskallaru9466 the quest with the robots? Who a modder sued bethesda over?

[@patchselg4310]

I think he did not do the quest with the tiny monster either

[@realkingofantarctica]

"Incompetence meets Brilliance." You have such a way with words. You've perfectly summed up Bethesda.

[@Chuked]

This is the best game I’ve ever experienced

[@BlueBirdsProductions]

No, summing up Bethesda would be the other way around.

[@JollyWailmer]

@Spit Dragon just to add to this, Fallout 3 reworked the plot of Fallout 1 then added Liam Neeson, and Fallout 4 reversed Fallout 3’s Liam Neeson plot and added New Vegas’ gimmick of “pick one of these 4 factions to win the war and the territory” Bethesda made 1 original Fallout game and it was 76. And we all know what happened there!

[@BlueBirdsProductions]

@Spit Dragon What are you on about like the elder scrolls doesnt exist

[@ducksondork]

Still waiting on the brilliance part ngl

[@lilwelfarecheck3626]

There was something just so iconic and heartfelt about all of the NV dlc, even the worst of the dlc where still amazing and worth the prices. They all added new concepts, new dynamic looking maps and loads of content. They were all elaborate and connected to each other and the game too.

[@vahlok1426]

Honestly, on recent replay of the NV DLC, I don't think any of them can honestly be labeled as bad. Sure, one could argue for nitpicks and annoyances (like, I've seen essay length comments on people who think Ulysses is annoying and a dumb character, for example) but honestly I think they're all fantastic in their own right. They're no Mothership Zeta, that's for sure.

[@lilwelfarecheck3626]

@@vahlok1426 Yhea, I’ve never even heard of complaints towards Ulysses, usually people are fangirling over him. The main thing I heard that I kinda understand is how difficult it is to maneuver throughout Sierra madre. But you can’t label any of them as bad dlc. They all had great writing, deep characters that had more lore and story to them than just what’s happening in the current situation like what fallout 4 is. they really gave you that sense of a gritty, horrible disgusting world and it felt like a real apocalypse.

[@DreddPirateRoberts]

Hear hear. Obsidian really knew their shit.

[@BigFootTheRealOne]

Fallout New Vegas is so good it makes me wonder why the outer world is so meh

[@vahlok1426]

@@BigFootTheRealOne Me too. Me too...

[@redghost5705]

Far harbour is one of the best dlcs Bethesda have made. Its was incredibly well written and atmosphere was perfect. And i loved the children of atom, the nuclear sub base felt like a cathedral.

[@Nivrithi1]

Fun note: Red Eye (the Raider announcer from Nuka-World) is voiced by Andrew WK. And of course there's Elias Toufexis as Grand Zealot Brian Richter.

[@monkeeee]

Todd’s siren song finally brought you back

[@pnutz_2]

all of this. just. works.

[@alexcampbell4297]

Reject modern society

[@expendableround6186]

?

[@LostShipMate]

Like a moth to the flame.

[@mrybird4044]

You have forced me to imagine mermaid Todd, perched upon a rock, gentle waves in the distance as he serenades us to come closer to his siren money trap.

[@r.h.brekke5194]

What I love most about Far Harbor, and DiMA specifically, is that in the paranoia of who may or may not be a synth, Acadia finds itself (inadvertently or otherwise) gaslighting people into believing they are a synth. I think the purpose of the "player might be a synth" thing wasn't to plant actual suspicion in our minds, but to make us see that this IS gaslighting. Obviously we know our character remembers more beyond the bombs falling, it's not meant to FOOL us, but to make us realize that THIS is the kind of questioning DiMA puts people through, people who are much more affected by the synth paranoia in the Commonwealth than our unfrozen Salisbury Steak character. This is why, no matter who I side with, whether roleplaying or doing what I genuinely feel is right, I always end FH with DiMA facing judgement because he perpetuated the fear and loss the Institute has been responsible for. Not only has he actually been killing and replacing people (and the excuse that he was so traumatized by the actions that he wiped his memory don't hold up, since he's PERFECTLY WILLING to do the same to High Confessor Whoeverthefuck), but he is gaslighting others into believing they are synths, and getting them to abandon their lives to be part of Acadia. Pure intentions or no, DiMA is a monster through and through.

[@LadyDoomsinger]

Agreed. Not only is he willing to do it again with the High Confessor; but he literally makes the suggestion one breath after apologizing for what he did to Avery. "Sorry about killing and replacing a human being in Far Habor. Now help me do the same with the Children of Atom." Nice, DiMA. Real nice. It was funny how Salt mentioned he felt DiMA was a sympathetic and nice character - when I first met him, my initial impression of him was that he was condescending, pretentious, and insincere. Of course, I realize that's just what I read into his tone of voice and choice of words, but it's interesting how different my impression of DiMA was from Salt's.

[@Kris-wo4pj]

@Michael Smith different writer than the usual guy and it ties into the old concept for 4 that got scrapped ie player character was an escaped synth from the Institute. Just cuz todd howard is a hack doesnt mean they dont have one or 2 decent story tellers.

[@johnrice5779]

(Spoilers) I destroy everyone. DiMA is a monster. The CotA are fricken crazy and don't understand radiation is not good for everyone. And the people of FH are exclusive (A.I.ist?) and xenophobic. None of them deserved to keep FH. Blow up CotA, get FH to attack Acadia, then cause the fog lamps to fail. Easy peasy. Island belongs to the fog monsters now.

[@LadyDoomsinger]

@@johnrice5779 Harsh. At least when I did that, it was entirely an accident. Honest.

[@johnrice5779]

@@LadyDoomsinger Harsh? Yeah, very. But the fog monsters don't have agency and are equal opportunity slaughter machines.

[@damon_von_volger]

At least in Nuka World they actually let you kill most of the park, like wow! The bare minimum of “let players lock themselves away from several questlines” was achieved! ONCE 💀

[@erek3034]

Was on survival and threw a grenade shi got rly bad

[@Vanillastump]

NGL, having a deathclaw farm as a settlement was great. Just like 4 chameleon deathclaws wandering around, non-hostile, but not protecting anything.

[@DanielSan1776]

On Spectacle Island, I’ve got 12 gunner traps set up as an XP, & Loot farm Idk if it’s a glitch, but I only get 100xp for the radiant quests from the Nuka World DLC And at level 100+ that’s nothing

[@aralornwolf3140]

@@DanielSan1776 , From what I experienced... The DLCs (Nuka World/Far Harbour) are tied to your level when you enter them. The higher level you are before going to them, the higher level enemies you find. Higher level enemies give you more EXP than low level enemies. Enter one of the DLCs and use it for EXP farm. As you level beyond a certain point in the DLC, enemies stop leveling with you... and then you get nothing in the way of for EXP. Which means, you go do the next DLC to continue leveling. With luck you could level beyond 100 easily... but, you eventually get to the point of near 0 EXP rewards.

[@Cyberc50x]

56:00 Knowing his designation code says you're working with Chase, if you were there for him at the Institutes orders then you'd be using a shutdown code instead.

[@conquerthevoid9932]

The problem is that the shut down code will also wipe his mind (not to mention Father/X3-88 mentioned it can kill the target), meaning you would not get the information you need from him.

[@thomasfrye6335]

An interesting fact is that the “mind control” drug does kinda come back later, but it involves a few speech checks. It also needs you to be doing the settlement raids

[@ActionScripter]

Yep, and also the note in the terminal about it only working on settler types is a bit of in-game justification for the persuasion grenades only working against settlers you're trying to strongarm.

[@bennyheadofthechairmen8808]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/rZSZqWSBhbalrMk

[@dakotasir9849]

You KILLED me with "I do not accept this fucking phony". I genuinely laughed out loud, and since I'm hungover and miserable, that's a feat.

[@yipperdeyip]

Time-stamp?

[@LilPhat999]

​@@yipperdeyip 27:25 ish

[@thomanator1000]

20:40 it actually does, in the raider settlement part. If ya go to the operators and talk to them they give ya a new chem and gas grenade, and if ya talk the settlers off their land/giving their supplies those two items reduce the difficulty of the speech checks.

[@SorowFame]

Yeah, I was really confused when he said that because the grenade does come up later.

[@ClonesDream]

Stop writing "you" as "ya" lol

[@thomanator1000]

@@ClonesDream no

[@daltonking6956]

"You can spare her and she becomes a merchant, or you can kill her and she becomes part of the ground" 😂 got me

[@Ckeymanx]

Just a note, you can say you'll spare the CEO and get the nuka cola jumpsuit, then just pull the plug and you'll also get the rewards for doing that, you can get both rather easily

[@berkowk]

And there is a way to clear out Acadia via BoS or Institute. What a great DLC, nice side quests, tragic characters, extension of Nick's history... P.S.: Coarser couldn't teleport due to tech limitations - you'll need to build special teleport relay on island to bring in Institute force.

[@jmjedi923]

man you'd think that someone who survived a vault would be really wary of them, and not really want to get involved in making one

[@Denazon]

You missed the haunted house in Nuka world, its quite interesting. Did you also miss the Red Death side quest in Far Harbour? Thats a good one as well.

[@thebiglich]

Also the vault mistery

[@ThwipThwipBoom]

Bethesda is American so there's no u in the Far Harbor DLC name.

[@shafietaheri]

@@ThwipThwipBoom cringe

[@dragoneye6229]

I beg to differ sir. There is no way you can miss a quest in DLC that does not exist. Unless of course you are talking about the very existent Far Harbor.

[@naedanger123]

ITT: People being cringe and pretending to not understand words

[@RACHERgaming]

Not gonna lie my first run of Far Harbor I was so pissed when DIMA got killed and they marched on Acadia, I went back and joined the Children of Atom to wipe out Far Harbor off the map. I changed my entire mindset into solely 'Fuck that town theyre getting fogged out'

[@michael3k80]

absolutely agree :D still i was a bit more hardcore and just disabled fog condenser's ...well they got the fight they wanted ....

[@birdz3676]

if i remember right you can send the institute to take over Acadia if you sided with them in the base game

[@jeebus2121]

I kill The Children of Atom regardless. It's Bethesda's horrible writing that has them be open to conversation in Far Harbor and openly, immediately hostile in the base game except for The Crater. This inconsistency is so annoying and without any lore to explain it that, well, they got to go.

[@adamgray1753]

So very true, @@jeebus2121. I mean my God, man! In Far Harbor you get to briefly meet that fart cloud of a Magick Woman in your Children of Atom Vision Quest. You are viewed as some great prophet for the Children of Atom in Far Harbor from then onwards. I am over here like, "What? Is Magick really real in the Fallout Universe?". Then you play the Nukaworld DLC. Harvey, or whatever that super ghoul guy is called, his Ghoulification really gave him Magickal powers. So yes, Magick is in fact real in the Fallout Universe. So with this fart cloud of a Magick goddess for the Far Harbor Children of Atom I am just too blown away to really think much of it other than this is just Refrigerator Logic. Just turn off your brain and everything will be a-okay.

[@bigbastard7582]

@@birdz3676 and you can wipe acadia with BoS

[@Isabelle-mp8rk]

A cool note on kazumi, if you are the leader of the institute there is a new npc you can meet and ask if she is a synth, to which he says it isn't one made by the institute but could have been reprogrammed. Also kazumi doesn't drop a synth component when killed, which like every single other synth does.

[@MahDryBread]

The Bill Nye gag had me in stitches

[@doremi4531]

I randomly decide to click this video and here you are

[@ArxCyberwolfPC]

@@doremi4531 It helps out the KZbinrs he watches when he comments, as comments are good for the KZbin algorithm!

[@Minecraftler2306]

Oh shit it is Mah-Dry-Bread

[@blakesims5748]

Wasn’t expecting to see another sub of mine. Love both of your content

[@spark_two]

Okay but what fossil did you take on your way to this video?

[@30Janni]

Even if it ends a bit too fast for my liking, Curie's Side Quest was realy heartwarming.

[@Slender_Man_186]

Also, Synth Curie is adorable.

[@Mr._Anderpson]

Yep, who doesn't want to turn their toaster into a fleshlight? Station her in Graygarden when doing BoS radiant quests, then stop in for a "nap" to enable the empty balls bonus XP when turning in the quests.

[@YeTheGOATNoCap]

@@Mr._Anderpson wtf lol

[@dannymckenzie8329]

Crunge

[@regarded9702]

@@Mr._Anderpson chad

[@quintussertorius4447]

On the subject of companion quests (besides Nick’s of course), the one I really liked was for Curie. It actually did a few interesting things with the lore. It isn’t amazing or anything, but I remember it and I enjoyed it.

[@completeninjastdgaming3967]

I think that Macready has a top notch one as well. Caits is alright too

[@Matt-td8xw]

The story she has in the old vault terminals are also pretty good.

[@gratuitouslurking8610]

Honestly, it kinda sucks cus sometimes you can't even tell what's a companion quest and what's a major quest. Preston's an obvious one, where his friendliness is 100% linked to the current state of the Minutemen, meanwhile Curie you have to know the secondary process of the memory den to trigger that. Others they'll just be chilling along and then suddenly when you fast travel they'll want to pour their heart out about such a good example you've been to them and such. Or like most the times I've played FO4, just be working on scrapping and crafting and suddenly Codsworth will get all teary-eyed, metaphorically. Probably why I like ADA so much, her companion attitude is tied squarely to the Mechanist plotline.

[@evanm1337]

About Kiddie Kingdom, you can actually find his S/O. She's dead, but you can find her. Essentially, she wanted to go out on her own terms, as detailed in a holotape. You can then go to Oswald and play the tape. He then backs down and lets you have the park.

[@Spardeous]

Remember when explosive collars on necks was taken seriously and entailed an entire DLC questline? Obsidian remembers.

[@Leavemealone670]

They weren’t taken seriously at all they were just fucking annoying.

[@simple-commentator-not-rea7345]

Literally EVERYONE remembers, quit pretending that Obsidian fans are the minority

[@rollutherhodie3076]

yes,quite. discouraging exploration,blaring in your ears...

[@Spardeous]

@@simple-commentator-not-rea7345 Just because public opinion has shifted since Bethesda shit the bed doesn't mean negate the fact that the quality difference is real. I don't expect Obsidian to crank out many gems in the future - without Avellone polishing their scripts and throwing out crappy writing, Obsidian's writing is only marginally better than industry standard.

[@JAy-vx3vw]

@@Spardeous The outer worlds was incredibly mediocre it was the writers that made people like it not the company

[@NickStrothers]

My favorite sarcastic sodium distributor delivers again! those are some pretty big shoes to fill.

[@Chuked]

Same

[@PlebNC]

"I made my slot machines force my dwellers to lose all their money." And thus Salt Factory became the enemy they swore to destroy: EA.

[@johndoenews1642]

The vault tec workshop offers way more. If you spend more time building your vault, you can build a real nice vault. But maybe more interesting is that the tunnels rech into the basement of an old drug store, which is occupied by a few gouls and count as part of the vault. Meaning you can build a pretty neat house there where no-one but you can come, which shares the inventory with the vault. It can also house 40 citizens. Asssign them to farms and put a bunch of water purifiers in the space next to the entrance and you have yourself a great supply of water and food for all your other settlements. I like to unlock vault 88 as soon as possible in most of my playtroughs to make it my main base and the drug store my main house.

[@jp12x]

"You name is Cleaned?" Typos are one of the smallest issues in the game...

[@mutedknght]

What is that cursed ass Gaia online avi

[@YouTubecanfuckagoat]

Too bad they happen when coding.

[@jackrabbit7789]

Casually ignores all the early game pay to win garbage "dlc's" that new vegas had. But no one can insult the divine gift that is new vegas.

[@bilboteabaggins8645]

@@jackrabbit7789 “pay to win” in a single player game…

[@meatbeatmania]

@@jackrabbit7789 pay to win in a singleplayer game?

[@VAULT-TEC_INC.]

My 10 year old son LOVED opening the traps and seeing what type of creature we had caught.

[@captain-commander8138]

Ya pet deathclaw is cool plus setting up death matchs is fun

[@snails6997]

@@captain-commander8138 Caesar's Legion spotted. Hail to the Caesar.

[@chudbob_soypants]

@@snails6997 *ahem* True to Caesar!

[@johnrice5779]

Totally not a PG-13 game...

[@GlennDavey]

There's something for everyone in these games, however far into it you want to go. Even the simple things can delight.

[@DHunt88]

Crazy part of the Vault DLC is that even it you make a massive vault that take up the entire cave, the NPCs dont path very far so they will never go to half of the vault.

[@MultiKamil97]

I was a bit sad you haven't mentioned Grandchester Mansion in Nuka-World. This place was a really nice addition to this DLC and the whole story about it was interesting and creepy at the same time. It even kinda introduces a real ghost. On the side note: Whenever you said "Children of Atom" I kept hearing "Children of Adam" and it was sometimes confusing to me haha 😆

[@freeaudiojungle4407]

😂 you pronounce stuff in a way I can't understand 😂

[@Deoxys_Used_Mimic]

The thing with DiMA is that his story is about him becoming the Institute (in practice); becoming what he hates most. What he did with Avery (and Tektus if you choose that route) is *exactly* what the Institute did with Diamond City’s Mayor. They replaced a public leader with a synth to pacify the rest of their people.

[@FelisImpurrator]

Technically, it isn't, because the contexts and motivations are different. DiMA may have committed a similar action on the surface, but the motivation was far more selfless and served an arguably necessary purpose: Preventing war between two factions full of irrational, dogmatic people who would have let their mutual fear and hatred lead to potentially the death of nearly everyone on the island, and definitely the death of a lot of people regardless. All his motivations are to help people as much as possible with the lowest calculable amount of sacrifice, and he still fully experiences remorse for having to make any sacrifices at all. In other words, he's a utilitarian, acting as ethically as the situation allows under utilitarian ethics, and as such is basically about as good as robots get in sci-fi writing. The Institute is far less ethically justifiable - they keep slaves, maintain control over their people with secrecy and violence, and use people as mere tools to be disposed of with no remorse and no attempts to find solutions with fewer sacrifices. They do everything to preserve their own perceived (status) and actual (technology) superiority, unlike the more altruistic original Institute alluded to in the backstory. What they practice isn't utilitarianism - it's merely callous authoritarianism. They're completely different.

[@doctorfluffnstuff403]

@@FelisImpurrator The road to hell is paved with good intentions. DiMA may have had good ideals, but the outcome is all that matters, and in the end they became the institute; a nebulous entity playing God with the lives and wellbeing of others. They're the same.

[@allenholloway5109]

@@FelisImpurrator It's not a matter of "did he become as evil as the Institute", it's using a direct connection to something the Institute did to draw a strong link to what DiMA is slowly becoming.

[@legion999]

Except that did nothing with Diamond City. It was pointless. Dima kinda had a more legit reason, but I only went along with it to not make Avery's death a complete waste

[@legion999]

@@doctorfluffnstuff403 Replacing Avery was super shitty and institute-like, but DiMA's faction did NOT become the Institute! To say they did is disingenuous and ignores all context. Did he start using the Institute's methods? Yes, well one method. Saying they're now the same or almost the same is nonsense. Do I really need to list the reasons why?

[@TyrooShino]

31:37 " You name is cleansed" ... 10/10 developers can't even check their own text for errors this many years after?

[@DreddPirateRoberts]

Like, is the player character able to see subtitles, too?

[@davidfutterer551]

@@DreddPirateRoberts In my headcanon the Playercharacter is a Synth... So maybe he can?

[@toiletcomputer]

I was thinking similar about masons loud dogs

[@Varangian_af_Scaniae]

Bethesda has re-released Skyrim 20 times on every kind of platform. But have not fixed a single bug since the last patch 2012-ish. They could have made a deal with the guy making the mod "Unofficial Skyrim Patch" which fixes thousands of bugs in that game and is essential to use. They could just have implemented his fixes and the base game would be 100-times better. But why waste resources on a product that sells great years after release. Bethesda know nothing about pride in their work.

[@josephlochner4789]

I found Cait’s quest to be very touching if you take the time to talk to her and listen to her history. Hers is one of the few interesting/compelling character stories

[@mangodango1733]

Caits childhood is how I imagine the kids living with the slavers in fallout 3 was supposed to come off

[@burntbacn]

The ending where you stumble across a miracle machine that instantly cures all addictions kinda sucks. But other than that it's great.

[@EnclaveSgt]

@@burntbacn I hate Cait after she's cured. She gets mad and will leave me if use chems. like come on ya goofy I need that jet

[@burntbacn]

@@EnclaveSgt that's just an issue with fallout 4's companions in general. No matter what you'll do something that annoys them, like going into power armour around strong.

[@iwakeupandboomimarat]

@@EnclaveSgt honestly im so glad that there are mods to remove companion approval going down just bc i dont want any of them to leave lol

[@swpercooldude8014]

Another great thing about the far harbor dlc that I dont think was mentioned is that you can also get 2 more endings in which u report to the brotherhood and institute about the synth base of acadia and they blow it up or reprogram everyone respectively. Also I think that if u did the railroad ending u may get another ending or at least some more dialogue with acadia. It really shows that Bethesda can make quality stuff if they actually want to.

[@lordpumpkinhead265]

A neat interaction is when you first meet Richter in Far Harbor. It is stated that he is ex-Enclave, but the Enclave trying to secure a pre-war nuclear submarine to use in future excursions would make complete and total sense. Plus, his story doesn't add up on how his team all died of presumed radiation poisoning when he looks perfectly fine and was "nursed back to health." I feel it's a far more likely headcanon that the recon part is true, and they figured out about the submarine before the Children of Atom arrived to take up residence, but not if the facility was able to release it, or the sub was even operable. Then, the Children of Atom took up residence, and the Enclave sent in Richter as a double-agent to investigate and report back if the submarine is operable and can be rescued.

[@patrickn.4113]

In addition to this, remember how Richter does not have the "hair falls out" hairstyle that all the others have. He looks pretty normal.

[@giovannicervantes2053]

​@@patrickn.4113 Mostly just the face paint marks him without it he looks like the average waster

[@teph1256]

You always blame todd for everything, but it's emil pagliarulo who was trully in charge of the games at bethesda, and he's the one with the shitty writing? you want to know why you liked far harbor? He wasn't involved. William Shen wrote it.

[@Astroman10]

Todd Howard is the LEAD Developer and ALL content needs to be approved by him. He can also make writers edit their stories to fit his dream! The reason the DLCs have better writing is Todd Howard and his team started development MONTHS after the game was released and thousands of reviews were made ... Here's an analogy for you to better understand: Todd Howard is the Disney of Bethesda games!

[@apolloforabetterfuture4814]

@@Astroman10 I'll say this for Todd, he's a good game lead but not a good rpg game lead. He knows how to make a competent fun game but not anything more. If you see Chris Avalon and Josh Sawyer in Fallout New Vegas they're completely committed to having all those details and depth rpg fans want so desperately but they couldn't have made Fallout 4 from scratch, it's a different skill set. They need to combine their powers to have the fun elements and the rpg elements

[@legion999]

You're right of course, but who put Pagliarulo in charge? Wasnt it Todd?

[@legion999]

@@Astroman10 "the DLCs have better writing" No, only FH has better writing. Others are still trash.

[@DubbleTee]

Can't believe Emil still has a job. His leadership is atrocious and we won't have a good Fallout until he is fired.

[@DivinityOfBLaze]

I played the nuka world dlc twice. Somehow watching this feels like I never played it at all because it was so unmemorable I didnt retain any memories of it.

[@lasarousi]

The best part is missing a single memory to unlock the nuka armor, spending hours trying to find it just to install a mod that placed a marker on it so you can realize it's just a paint job you unlocked no better than your current equipment.

[@cynicalclockworks9857]

I had the same problem. I know I beat Nuka World, but cant remember any details.

[@flatpepsi]

That's how I feel about my 150 hours of AC Valhalla.

[@Mattznick]

One of my friends gf loves nuka world and i can't understand why.

[@JohnSmith-ts8xp]

I don't have any fond memories of Fallout 4. I bought it begrudgingly because it was going cheap in a game exchange shop and can't remember anything from it that hit me as hard as the moment you first leave the vault in Fallout 3. The way your character adjusts to the light and the music that plays is one of my favourite gaming memories.

[@Halberdier-pasha]

I literally flipped a coin between buying Nuka World and Far Harbor, cool to see I got the bad outcome

[@dickkickem6472]

You bought nuka world?

[@Halberdier-pasha]

@@dickkickem6472 yup

[@vahlok1426]

I bought the pass at the time, was indoctrinated into the Bethesda-cult at the the time, and felt disappointment after disappointment. Meanwhile, a dumbass friend of mine kept belittling and chiding me for not liking it. Yeah, we aren't friends anymore.

[@BarokaiRein]

Oh boy what a treat! I honestly thought you wouldn't even cover these after playing through just the main story 4 times in a row.

[@roc_cave2107]

things Bethesda reused from Point lookout in Far harbor: an island, missing memories, the dlc starting with finding someones daughter, going to a place and being in a drugged to gain acces to a fanatic club, foggy, the daughter youre trying to find is looking into the leader, a quest involving a lighthouse, blowing up a submarine, the first part in the dlc is a wave based tower defence part,

[@yellowflannel8252]

Point lookout did it way better too imo

[@roc_cave2107]

@@yellowflannel8252 all facts, no fiction.

[@mrheroprimes]

@@yellowflannel8252 the main reason was better is because Bethesda still had competent writers.

[@yellowflannel8252]

@@mrheroprimes facts

[@tinyman1144]

Wait you go to POint LookOuT to find someone's daughter? I somehow never noticed this part of that dlc

[@jeremycarnes1656]

My first time playing FO4 was with the Game of The Year edition, so it came with all this stuff. That was enjoyable. I'd imagine bolting it all on via buying them all individually would suck. But as included extras, I enjoyed them. Nuka World was ludicrous and silly, Far Harbor was solid story in a solid, and environment, Automation was a fun questline, and having access to everything in the workshop from the jump off was fun.

[@nivannakingsman1383]

Mildly the same case here. I had fallout 4 as one of the first games I bought for my PS4. I didn't have Internet at the time so I played over and over to get all the endings. Then on a black Friday I saw game of the year edition and snatched it up for like 7 bucks. Basically got all dlc for 7 bucks and a new disk. Put my old disk away and started using that one and fallout 4 cemented itself in my personal hall of fame of games.

[@feno8104]

I really really want the devs at Bethesda to watch through this, especially towards the end. You've pretty much summed up where all their shortcomings lie, as well as their strengths

[@beanboy887]

I think you’re missing out not doing companion quests. They’re not a captivating as NV but they are fun cute little things to do on the side and I dont think there are any unlikable companion.

[@Hemostat]

Cait

[@supergoodadvice853]

@@Hemostat You have your opinions, no matter how wrong they are.

[@Hemostat]

@@supergoodadvice853 haha ty ty

[@doc207]

Except… *HIM*

[@vavra222]

@@supergoodadvice853 Thats just a point of view. There is no right or wrong in this matter, we all simp for a different companion. For one, i dislike Piper the most because of her attitude, Cait has a pretty good, tragic backstory which made me feel sorry for her and like her a bit more. But i cant listen to her accent too much. Curie is where its at, i cant help it.

[@vinndolyn5976]

I think that the “using the designation as a sign that you’re with Acadia” works because with most synths/institute agents they would just immediately use the relay shutdown thing to turn the synth off but having that info and not doing that means that someone he trusted must have given you the info

[@sparkyfromel]

The reward for katsumi return is excellent , if you save just before opening the chest you can repeat until you get a top weapon

[@johnmendoza7028]

There’s so many awesome side quests in this game, I’d say it’s a must. Cabot house is phenomenal, and there are other assorted quests that are really fun.

[@vexili]

To bad the main quest is hot garbage

[@EnclaveSgt]

@@vexili yeah its pretty fun the first time or two but every other character I've made since I completely ignore the main story and do a bunch of side quests and murdering npcs to death until I get bored and quit

[@datiger39]

@@EnclaveSgt yea that’s pretty much what I do, same with Skyrim lol

[@drlca6601]

@@EnclaveSgt Still waiting on a mod that properly removes it. There's always stuff they forget in the dialogue sadly. It's a WIP.

[@EnclaveSgt]

@@drlca6601 I've never heard of a mod that removes the main story