Evan-TX | Semen To Birth Is Proof Of God | Talk Heathen 06.30

[@jeff6660]

To think that Evan is capable of canceling the vote of a rational person is just terrifying.

[@scruffylookingNerfherder5742]

The Dunning Kruger effect at its finest. Painfully ignorant and proud as hell about. The caller's entire argument basically boils down to "I don't know it, therefore it can't possibly be true! And because I didn't know it, then neither can anybody else!"

[@antitheist3206]

I'm not saying we should implement standards for who can and can't vote, because that's very easily corrupted, but this is definitely a problem.

[@BoothTheGrey]

Yeah - so shouldnt politics (and the whole society) do everything possible to educate all citizens?

[@NotAPacifist825]

@@BoothTheGrey it's a feature not a bug

[@gazza595]

@@antitheist3206 There could easily be minimum standards of education, if everybody had a decent education it would at least reduce the problem. We can cure stupid be we can certainly reduce it.

[@MrMattSax]

So a 34 year old that sounds like an 80 year old who apparently never went to a science class thinks we should all just believe and not really care about evidence? Something to consider, for sure.

[@themplar]

Reminds me of Herbert from Family Guy

[@Mewse1203]

I thought he sounded like a 13 year old. Regardless, I was GOBSMACKED to find out he was 34!

[@davidmarquart3912]

A muppet

[@FourDeuce01]

Judging by what he said, he sounds like a slow 2-year-old.

[@mikesommer1914]

Funny i think he sounds like he is 5 years old

[@stoomurray327]

Evan is so simple minded and stuck in their ways, it's actually kind of a shame. I feel bad for people who struggle this much to think and reason properly to the point it affects how they fundamentally see and interact with the world.

[@TheSnoeedog]

The shame is that there is no legislation in place to limit their voting/breeding opportunites

[@lendmeyourear94]

Evan is a gold nugget for scammers.

[@petyrkowalski9887]

Accuser: I believe the defendant is guilty of murder. Judge: what is your evidence? Accuser: I dont have any but I believe it in my heart. Judge : thats good enough for me. Guilty as charged.

[@petyrkowalski9887]

@Joe dirty71 its sad really how deluded people can be

[@Sir-Complains-a-Lot]

I admire the hosts patience and friendly style of communication. I would have bitch slapped this guy off the air after the "i just know it" statement.

[@deeterful]

Right!

[@simonkoster]

Kenneth nailed it: it's about caring if your beliefs are true. If you don't there is really no point in having a conversation about your beliefs.

[@FrikInCasualMode]

Preachers and politicians all around the world love, LOVE this kind of people: simple - minded, ignorant and gullible. Appeal to their biases, stroke their ego for a bit, and they will storm the capital of your nation for you.

[@TheTruthKiwi]

You guys knocked it out of the park with this whole show and all the callers. Your patience, kindness and sincerity really shined through and mixed with sound, logical arguments really made the callers think about their positions. Well done. Bravo. :)

[@adriangeh6414]

Evan's tinfoil hat protects him from "Lies, lies, nothing but lies!!"

[@scamchan]

That "faith" stops a lot of critical thinking

[@keriozaraki]

Evan: „How frustratingly do you want me to present my case?“ God: „Yes“

[@leviphillip]

This is just sad

[@livingart2576]

Indeed. Education has failed this time around

[@timalimdim]

Kudos on the compassion from Kenneth and SR. Yes, Evan is a frustrating caller, but you never know where conversations like this will lead.

[@biogopher]

How quickly they go from "i dont know" to "definitely not billions"

[@FourDeuce01]

“Do you care whether your beliefs are true?” Evan: “Yes, everybody does.” Evan obviously hasn’t listened to any religious apologists.🤡

[@RaulPerez-jj5jj]

It k*lls me everytime I hear a theist ask the question "why do you need evidence?" 😂🤡😂🤡😂

[@aarrgghh]

shorter evan ... betty: "look, miss grundy is dead!" veronica: "archie killed her." betty: "what's your evidence?" veronica: "miss grundy is dead."

[@grantm6514]

3:00 Kenneth: What if a college teacher showed you evidence that the earth was old? How would that affect your belief? Evan: I would need proof. We don't have evidence. There isn't any evidence. Also Evan: 11:50 Why do you need evidence? (for God)

[@seanfenrir]

8:10 This is 100% FALSE. It was through conversation with atheists that I left religion and became an atheist myself. There is always value to a conversation.

[@steveswangler6373]

There is value in conversation with and for honest open minded people.

[@JJMDude]

I could never be this patient with someone this infuriating. This person behaves as though all opinions are equal and unassailable and that we can't know anything, so it's just about believing harder than everyone else. The rest comes down to "that science thing is unintuitive to me, therefore someone is trying to trick me!" They can't analyze evidence by any but the most simplistic means, and assume that evidence is manufactured to fool them because they KNOW they don't have the chops to weigh it themselves, therefore assuming that nobody CAN understand why the evidence fits the current models. Unrelated, but I'm so glad I don't believe in reincarnation. I can't imagine being unlucky enough to wind up as someone who thinks like this and can never break free to see with any kind of clarity. People like Evan live in a terrifying world they fear because they don't understand it, blind to the real threats who will use their ignorance against their own interests while warding off everyone with their welfare in mind.

[@steveswangler6373]

Has doubts or evidently thought he could sway the hosts and possibly listeners to his beliefs

[@acgsmith5937]

I've been looking for a crazy caller all day. Thanks Evan.

[@livingart2576]

Oh dear. This is the result of not understanding science but leaping to “god did it” Love the channel. Must be the flagship 😀

[@jasonandheatherscriver3306]

When he said "why do we need evidence?", I was done. His first statement was there is proof of god. He is not smart, maybe a 65 IQ at best.

[@Carlinisalive]

65 is being nice I say more like 3

[@teve90]

Nah he could be a genius but says really stupid things

[@wabbajack2]

IQ is a fucked, synthetic, nearly useless metric, but this caller is either so heavily indoctrinated he sounds like a moron, or he's a few bricks shy of a load.

[@mikeinmelbourne9491]

That was just tragic and saddening

[@herbieshine1312]

I feel so sorry for Evan and people like him. Utterly heart breaking that education and critical thinking are so flawed.

[@dalecs47]

"You don't need proof of god. Just listen to what I say and believe me without question. Do what I tell you to do and live your life the way I say to do. Hate who I hate and love only who I say you can love. And give me money."

[@richardctaylor79]

Evan is either a Troll or a homeschooled Bible child

[@lendmeyourear94]

or both!

[@seannelson3613]

Another perfect example of a call that should have lasted five minutes. If someone is adamant that evidence won't change their mind, further discussion is a waste of everyone's time, and the hosts are reckless to model that sort of behavior.

[@teve90]

The last few min the lame assdude was starting to break apart to be fair

[@hdub8093]

This call lasted 13 min too long.. I have no patience for idiocy

[@vestafreyja]

After listening to Evan who stated that he was 34 years old made me want to cry as he has the reasoning ability of young child. I'm wondering if he is the product of home schooling or was educated using Accelerated Christian Education because I do not believe that the public education system in Texas is that bad if he was educated at a public school; however if he was educated in a Christian school setting then all bets are off.

[@siyano]

Kenneth: "if you were given evidence of X would you keep your belief?" Evan: "Yes" well, then I dont know what to say at this point that even with evidence you willing to keep your belief

[@SB-cm9jh]

34?!!!!! At first I thought he was a kid and had a lot to learn. At 34, there is no excuse for such blatant stupidity.

[@Gamefan86]

Look up Nephilimfree here on KZbin. He is 60 or 61 years old 😄

[@SB-cm9jh]

@@Gamefan86 Ha...that reminds me of another old fool, Darth Dawkins/Gary Milne...so much arrogance through blatant ignorance.

[@PaxilRose]

Evan had the courage to call into a show and have his beliefs challenged. He's not out of the game yet. I'm routing for him. You're never too old to let go of bullshit. We need to nurture people like him.

[@trevorporter4776]

Evan, if you are accused of a serious crime do you want the judges and the jury to 'believe' that your are guilty OR do you want evidence of your innocence to keep you out of jail ?

[@vertigo4236]

Before an US court you are presumed innocent, your guilt has to be proven by evidence to be convicted.

[@trevorporter4776]

@@vertigo4236 True, and proven with facts & evidence not beliefs or faith, i guess.

[@peterlamboy5940]

Another fine product of the church.

[@g-mony767]

These guys have incredible patience!!!

[@louimoghaddam6476]

“Why do I need directions to go broom point A to B? I just believe once I start moving, I’m on the right path”!! Wow! Did I wake up in 12th century?

[@primordial82]

"That just warms my Grinch little atheist heart."🤣 Nice one Kennth

[@Mewse1203]

This is by far the most painful call I've ever listened to. Evan has ZERO critical thinking skills and sounds like he has had zero education. I legit thought he was a young teenager until he said he was in his 3os.

[@erl7466]

great show all around. this is what we come for, both the fallacy arguments and the well reasoned ones. thanks guys.

[@graydear3554]

two great hosts!

[@eduardofaria5577]

What the IGNORANCE!:POOR USA!

[@saveusmilkboy]

Evan is two years younger than I am. I don't know how to feel about that just at this moment.

[@markmiller7317]

I'm an ⚛atheist who was told that men choose the darkness over the light, I said only when I'm going to sleep!

[@SuperJal1979]

What is the difference between light and hard? You can get to sleep with a light on.

[@suburban-vampire]

Woah, it's pretty cool that WWE legend Paul Bearer called in.

[@FionaBranker]

Kenneth is so patient! I don't think I would have lasted beyond 90 secs of this call

[@grandvianna8551]

At this point, I'm completely sick to death of blatantly stupid people. No more time should be wasted on people like Evan

[@MacLaw3084]

i get it, but remember that other people hearing this may be persuaded to leave their faith.

[@BoothTheGrey]

In this show? Decision of the folks who do the show. But as a society? We should do the opposite and put all possible effort in all people to get more educated.

[@grandvianna8551]

@@BoothTheGrey but when you're met with people like this dude who just will not be honest and give stupid ass responses, why would anyone waste their time? They've had WAY better callers than this clown

[@vestafreyja]

@Joe dirty71 They would have us in the stone age in almost no time at all.

[@rageofheaven]

At least two thousand years old. This man just bet 1$ on the price is right. We don't have evidence of people going on the moon. What? We have retroreflectors placed from three lunar landings.

[@rageofheaven]

@@seasonedbeefs I've had it up to here with you so called "UK" people. What, with your lorries and your water closets and your Jeremy Clarkson.

[@crovax3000]

This sounds like someone doing a bad Jordan Peterson

[@moirasoma2863]

I thought so too!😂

[@DJ-73]

He almost sounds like Herbert from family guy.

[@SecondaryHomunculus]

Evan drank the Kool-Aid and did a full Oliver Twist "Please, sir, may i have some more please?"

[@Danny451]

As a "Christian" I believe the earth is around 6,000 years old. Who can possibly comprehend such a massive number like that?

[@Danny451]

@Joe dirty71 I was being sarcastic.🤣 If "Christians" had a brain that worked, Christianity would cease to exist.

[@stampcollectordenier]

The answer to the earth age is like a “Price is right” contestant answer.

[@sparki9085]

Literally just "im right because I'm right and theres nothing that can change my mind"

[@astrosci8864]

Now I know where "High Pitch Mike" from Howard Stern ended up.....

[@AlDunbar]

You gotta feel for the poor caller. He doesn't seem at all capable of understanding what others say.

[@MacLaw3084]

we need a question dodging meter/counter. (edit) episode one of me asking for a question dodge counter

[@Nocturnalux]

1:42 I mean…it is over two thousand years…!

[@owenritz1224]

Someone help Evan tie his shoes.

[@DJMaul1031]

I don't think Evan has ever set foot in a school, let alone a community college. 🤔

[@justinwolz4932]

"Why do you need evidence?" This might be the stupidest thing I've heard.

[@vitast2000]

This individual actually asked, "Why do you need evidence?!?!" 🤦🏽

[@rrpostalagain]

I think we were being a little optimistic to think that last call got anywhere.

[@glenhill9884]

Damn! This was one of the most respectful responses from hosts that I've ever seen. Kudos! Evan, think about why you believe without any evidence. That's what it sounds like anyway. If another person had a different belief with no evidence, which one should the hosts go with as more true?

[@heritagehorsedrawncarriage1069]

Evan is a special kind of special😅😅😅

[@facundotorres175]

"Do you care if your believes are true" "Well yes, but actually no"

[@themplar]

Just the voice acting alone makes me think he is a troll.

[@jaymercha3859]

i hope so.

[@erikvan9582]

This wasn't Jordan Peterson talking right,this was like JP talking in a low voice

[@nollattacykel]

This has to be a prank call, right?

[@tonydarcy1606]

Evan is obviously not the sharpest tool in the rack, but I will say that he had the balls to call in, and he waited over an hour to do so. For all his certainty, he evidently has doubts.

[@familyvideos5403]

Evan. You're 34. It's time to start reading. Time to start getting busy with life. No matter what happened to you as a kid.

[@squatter2983]

It's their fear of death so strong , will accept any gods or bibles that would save them from the finiteness of a painful death

[@Theproclaimed]

You know a caller is dishonest when they say we have no clue how old the earth is

[@beyondu77]

The hosts soft-walked Evan through this whole thing because it seemed like he wasn't too bright on this topic. It's too bad that religion prays on people like this and doesn't want them to learn more, because eventually, knowledge blows the whole thing out of the water.

[@deeporter7369]

Wow ! Just fooking Wow !

[@jamesdavies185]

Was this Herbert from family guy?

[@grapeman63]

How is it possible that students graduating from schools in some American states know less about the world around them than when they started? Or, put more strongly: why do some American states bother with the expense of an education system when 5 minutes of tuition would suffice (i.e. a single instruction to believe whatever you want despite overwhelming evidence to the contrary!) to prepare their students for life?

[@vestafreyja]

I'm not an American but I do wonder if those states that have the worst educational systems are predominately Republican states?

[@ramblingthoughtsandideas]

Pitiful what religion does to the mind.

[@Jeff.Paborada]

Is he really 34? I dont think so, he is so far behind on reasoning.

[@DeathStarU.S.A]

It's not about age, friend. It's about epistemology. My mom's 61 and she's just like Evan.

[@acgsmith5937]

@@DeathStarU.S.A My mom is 90 and she's just like Evan.

[@vestafreyja]

I'm 66 and some people might consider me to be somewhat educated as having earned a BSc in Psychology with a minor in Biochemistry, BSc & MSc in Computer Science and PhD's in Computer Science and Engineering and it makes me want to scream, cry or pull out my hair at the thought of individuals with such poor epistemology. What I do find encouraging is the rising numbers of Atheists, Agnostics and Non's in the younger generations.

[@daveydumpling]

These 2 are great but I still hanker after Matts more aggressive style.

[@jonerickson2358]

EVAN IS FROM TEXAS. THAT SAYS IT ALL!!!!!!

[@simonbriscoe5932]

Jesus wept…

[@Danny451]

I hear this "Jesus" character will be here "soon" too.

[@LM-jz9vh]

@@Danny451 He's been coming for the last 2,000 years even though he supposedly told his followers that some would still be alive to see the second coming. Watch the mental gymnastics of Christians who try to deny that false prediction.

[@gatorboymike]

Mickey Mouse sure has fallen on hard times.

[@bharathdeva9407]

🤣😂

[@skaface32]

...and these people get to vote....think about that

[@keithulhu]

I hope he calls in to another show and talks to Matt Dillahunty.

[@sparki9085]

Damn, starts the call off by saying that they do not care about factual reality. Incredible

[@Rob-fc9wg]

This indoctrinated idiot has been listening to his pastor.

[@towerdave4836]

Isn’t it depressing that people come to believe something first before they establish the facts supporting a belief and these people also have the vote 🙁

[@vestafreyja]

When I am introduced to a new subject or concept I'll look for the evidence that is available from reliable sources and attempt to draw my own conclusions and then I'll look at what the general consensus is from the experts in the field and if I find that my conclusion is different from what the experts hold the first thing I'll ask is what piece of information am I missing or understanding incorrectly and not that I'm correct. I tend to use the same level of epistemology across all things except for when I want to actually believe something I'll raise that bar in an attempt to eliminate or at the very least reduce any confirmation biases that I might hold.

[@shelliecarlson7015]

I'm thinking, Evan, and his Lady Aberlynn from Mr. Roger's Land of Make Believe, voice is a troll.

[@brucewilliams4152]

Evan, yes there is the evidence..... Geology, physics, chemistry demonstrates that the planet is 4 billion years of age.

[@juintevrucht6079]

When Evan mentioned the Earth floating on a sea of lava, I realized that he was probably referring to the concept of tectonic plates with lava beneath. I know we can't have a test for getting to vote, but it troubles me that Evan is allowed to.

[@Quiroze1]

Evan is proof that our school system has failed us

[@Rob-fc9wg]

Failed him!

[@henrim9348]

I feel so bad for this caller because they have the potential to fall further and further behind in the competitive society and world we live in. Eventually this refusal to think logically and critically catches up in other areas of life and they make poor decisions that impacts them careerwise or financially. I don't know if this caller simply refuses to challenge their thinking process or refuses to answer a simple question... why did they call in the first place? To proselytize?

[@Patrick77487]

A thousand years past this ignorance may be acceptable. No excuse today. Sad, shameful, disconcerting.

[@G_Demolished]

It’s not often that the evidence is literally a load.

[@darrinkemp1755]

God jizz.

[@TheOtterOnes]

I could not do a show like this I just dont have the patience

[@triplejudy]

I worship sixteen blue and pink winged fairies that fly out of my closet every morning at 6:22. I have a deep faith in them. My fairies talk to me and they: • answer my prayers • perform miracles, • fly through brick walls, • promise me eternity in “fairyland” after my death • are able to create a universe out of my “Reeboks.” • are able to resurrect and fly into the clouds after being dead for weeks and • turn my ice tea into a fine lager. Most importantly, they are written in chapter three of my Holy Book “Good News from the Closet Fairies,” authored centuries ago by their disciples {John, Paul, George and Ringo}. Do you believe in the “holy fairies?”

[@DeathStarU.S.A]

Aw, come on man, it just takes a lil faith lol ;)

[@snakeplisssken8095]

Sorry guys, but Evan was a waste of time. He already admitted that he doesn't believe in the moon landing (probably because of a lack of evidence in his mind, how ironic). I could assume he's a flat earther as well. Therefore...a waste of time.

[@paineretlaw3344]

Something about evan just feels off like their pretending to have that voice and that they're just trolling

[@Scroticus_Maximus]

Something is suspect

[@LillyTheLonelySock]

I don't know ... I actually think the caller sounded like they might have a learning disability. I felt bad for Evan.

[@jameshype8131]

Semen & egg = "god" and nobody knows hiw old the earth is. 😅

[@ajbowley2725]

Guys.... you shouldn't have asked him about a snake in the sky... Always ask about a mundane thing. That way you can give a specific example of how we determine if something is true or not. simply ask this question. Q - Can a human being run above 22 mph? Then you can open a discussion about how we would go about determining whether that is true or not what would count as evidence and how would we verify that it was accurate. Depending on what they say you, might want to say how about 25 mph?, how about 27 mph? You can go directly to discussing how we would know whether it's true or not..... incidentally Usain Bolt has been recorded at over 27 mph, and hundreds of athletes have been capable of running under 10 seconds in a 100m sprint, there's video recordings and multiple verifications / calibrations done on the timekeeping equipment. The average speed of a 10-second 100-m is actually above 22 mph. You could then be cheeky to make some points. You could say, my sister can run over 30 mph, do you believe me? I didn't see her do it myself but I believe it is true because I read my cousins diary and he said that it was true. You could then make a really good point. You could say do we have good reason to believe that my sister can run in excess of 30 mph? - if they are honest they will definitely say no we do not have good reason to believe that. Then you could say. I agree we do not have good reason to believe that. Is it fair to say then, it is certain that she can not run over 30mph? A - no we cannot be certain, no we do not have good reason to believe so but we cannot prove for certain. And that is all Atheiest can say about god