Evangelicals Call Jesus Woke, Liberal, and WEAK

[@Geospasmic]

We've been saying for a long time that if Jesus were born today, the right would call him a commie

[@DissociatedWomenIncorporated]

Because he was. He was incredibly based.

[@jemiinou]

My favorite one is that if Jesus came to America, Trump would deport him.

[@panda6907]

They've never followed christ. Jesus WOULD disown every evangelist and/or throw them from churches. Conservatives only want religion as a shield to lob hate from behind.

[@l6318]

Early Christian communities are one of very few examples of communism functioning as it would ideally. It probably helped that they interpreted: Jesus is coming back as: Jesus is coming back in like 10 minutes.

[@animeotaku307]

They would be the ones crucifying him again

[@JeantheSecond-ip7qm]

They’ll still accuse liberals of not being followers of Jesus while hating Jesus for being too liberal.

[@panda6907]

The funny thing is, liberals, atheists, and non-denominational religious people are ALWAYS closer to Jesus's teachings.

[@davidhatcher7016]

​@panda6907 And witches and spiritualists/pagans too.

[@user67999]

​@@panda6907fr, as an atheist I was mocking this false prophet.

[@psgForever-wr7ti]

I'm left wing but if you really think this is the status quo view of right wingers you're misinformed

[@psgForever-wr7ti]

@@panda6907 1. No one is closer to Jesus' teachings than anyone else, but even if they are... 2. Humility, as one of the most important factors of Christianity, is not displayed AT ALL in this comment; 3. It is physically impossible to be close to God without accepting him. I fear that that is the WHOLE message of the Bible, and the fact that you don't know that kind of helps my point (to prove its not circular reasoning, read John 14:6); 4. People that are fully left or fully right have this weird habit of always viewing the Bible as a political device, like politics first, religion second. This is whence views like this come; 5. People who study and apply the Bible are closest to its teachings. People who critically analyse it are closest to its teachings. For example, God doesn't care if you're a left wing or right wing: if you think homosexual acts are right, you directly contradict the message of the Bible in favour of your flesh, and you disgrace the Word because you believe something that doesn't even align with scientific beliefs.

[@involuntarilycelebrate]

I mixed black. My white cousin's grandma told me when I was about 6 years old, this would have been back in the late seventies, that I'm going to go to hell and there's nothing I can do about it because I was born part black. Good thing I didn't understand what the hell she meant, but looking back, wow that somebody could say something like that to a child. Unbelievable

[@mexme-me-2]

Mixed black is a contradiction

[@tofu_golem]

She didn't just say that to a child, but to a relative. Thank goodness my white grandparents chose family over hate.

[@benjaminmolina3456]

surprising how lots of hateful people hide with religion.

[@ladyraven3418]

Absolutely vile! I'm sorry that you had to go through that.

[@Goddess_Infinity]

So the believe is that one of Noah’s sons (Ham-descendants of Africans ) were cursed because he said his father naked . But Jesus was all crucified by the Greco Romans(modern day Europeans ) . So my question is why are Africans cursed, but not Europeans who actually unloved gods children Jesus? That was my wake up call .

[@musiimentadiana7776]

Jesus WAS liberal and woke in his time. He was even accused of trying to do away with the older laws (law of Moses) when he spoke of the Sabbath

[@alexaber9786]

In today's era, Jesus is solidly conservative.

[@Psyker_Unredactus]

It was considered REALLY WEIRD to worship only one God in the days of the Roman Empire. Unless you were Jewish. They didn't mind them because they minded themselves and didn't proselytize their faith trying to convert people. They also followed the laws of the Empire and were exempt from a lot of religious obligations and rituals that were a normal part of the Empire back then as a result.

[@kherevmikiel2486]

Jesus was neither conservative nor liberal, he was theocratic

[@Mortablunt]

American political binary doesn’t extrapolate well to other contexts. Jesus came to keep the law and said his mission was its adherence and preservation.

[@LonnieBhi]

Because the people that followed the religious laws were doing it for all the wrong reasons, their hearts weren't in it. It was performative, not love for their fellow brother and sister.

[@davidbingham4348]

I have a theory that bad stuff-random violence, disease, poverty, systemic injustice, etc. happens to the marginalized populations first, and then if the mainstream doesn’t care enough about those marginalized populations to fix the problem, it then spreads to the general population. The AIDS epidemic was just gays and IV drug users-until it was everyone. The drug epidemic was just black people (crack) until it was everybody (OxyContin). Random shootings (drive by) was just people in poor neighborhoods until suddenly it was in our schools. The mainstream population could save THEMSELVES so much misery if they just cared about the misery of others.

[@samuelcox358]

That sounds similar to the theory that creating things that help disabled people also tend to be helpful to the general public.

[@orangeTadpole]

Of course the right will see this as those bad things being spread from the marginalized groups as a consequence of those marginalized groups being tolerated, or “given more rights than everyone else”

[@LonnieBhi]

The government helped plant drugs in minority communities back in 70s & 80s, look at who was in control of government back then.

[@CiCodiCadno]

I agree, but just so you know, the AIDS epidemic was initially attributed to Haitians as well. Their plight, and the blame they were given in the epidemic is frequently forgotten

[@sapphicmoonwitch]

That's not theory, that's fact.

[@vladimirazubcekova7727]

jesus was literaly god according to their own lore...if he is weak then god is weak too since they are supposedly the same person

[@TMFJ747]

@@vladimirazubcekova7727 Hello! Make it make sense. Thank you, Vlad. 💯❤️💯❤️💯

[@williamchamberlain2263]

_Technically_ not all Christians believe the three-in-one, but I doubt that the Evangelikkkals in this example have ever thought about the various aspects of immanence, divinity, etc, etc

[@antediluvianatheist5262]

Their response is simple: they just don't think about it.

[@Psyker_Unredactus]

He was a fragment of God, if you really wanna get into the esoterica of it. A piece of Divinity walking the Earth to experience the mortal condition. Its kinda a big reason God calmed the fuck down. Jesus was still his own man. He still had to make his own way and make his own choices to get to where he was. And thats all there is to it. He was a decent guy who hated those who overtaxed and exploited the poor, who taught people what being a community means; looking out for each other. Loving without condition. Evangelicals now say that those things are "woke." Fucking insane.

[@DemonFoxAkira]

He sacrificed himself TO himself.

[@akinaharris4587]

If that isn't the definition of irony and hypocrisy, I don't know what is

[@CortexNewsService]

Actually, i think this might have crucified irony.

[@charlesallan-ks6gq]

God is an independent

[@Dani-Claw]

About time they recognize Jesus as the activist He was! They ignored it for so long because they kept using his name to do horrible things that are completely counter to Jesus' message. I am convinced if Jesus was around today in the flesh, He would be calling out the Christian church, and they would hate Him. Jesus called out the religious elite more than anyone else and actively chill with the rejects of society.

[@ursomajor5607]

Exactlyyyyyy

[@FishareFriendsNotFood972]

Calling 'turn the other cheek' a 'liberal talking point' is so amazingly ironic......

[@floydjohnson7888]

Okay, who used the "E Pluribus Moon 'em" line?

[@EmeralBookwise]

When the people star rejecting the literal founder of their supposed religion, that's when you know their faith is completely hollow and meaningless.

[@jeffrey1312]

Jesus is known for saying "Do unto others as you would have done unto you". Republicans find that too wordy. They just call it "Woke".

[@ladyraven3418]

As an ex Xtian, this is both unsurprising and infuriating. One of the major reasons I initially left the church, is because it seemed to lack Jesus in the first place.

[@panda6907]

I desperately need a new sect to go around as Jesus absoluteists, throwing money lenders, heretics, false prophets, liars, and con men out of church.

[@phi4721]

If you left Christianity because of Christians, you weren't a Christian in the first place because why would you leave Jesus because of people?

[@notafraidofchange]

See, and that doesn't make any sense to me! Why abandon Jesus just because some of His leaders in the Church are bad at representing him? They're fallen human beings (like you and me - I know, right? shocking!), and yes, some can be hard to listen to. And although my faith in them is shakable, my faith in Jesus is not. Even my own life may seem crappy from time to time, but I still trust Jesus when it comes to the direction of my life. Jeremiah 29:11 11 For I know the plans that I have for you,’ declares the Lord, ‘plans for welfare and not for calamity to give you a future and a hope. Romans 8:28 28 And we know that God causes all things to work together for good to those who love God, to those who are called according to His purpose. Matthew 8:23-27 (compare to Mark 4:35-41 and Luke 8:22-25) 23 When He got into the boat, His disciples followed Him. 24 And behold, there arose a great storm on the sea, so that the boat was being covered with the waves; but Jesus Himself was asleep. 25 And they came to Him and woke Him, saying, “Save us, Lord; we are perishing!” 26 He said to them, “Why are you afraid, you men of little faith?” Then He got up and rebuked the winds and the sea, and it became perfectly calm. 27 The men were amazed, and said, “What kind of a man is this, that even the winds and the sea obey Him?” Here's an interesting parallel in the psalms I once found to the above passage (the psalms are chock FULL of psalmists despairing and bringing forth prayer and supplication the Lord, and being delivered out of their hardships with a renewal of faith to Him who delivers): Psalm 107:23-30 23 Those who go down to the sea in ships, Who do business on great waters; 24 They have seen the works of the Lord, And His wonders in the deep. 25 For He spoke and raised up a stormy wind, Which lifted up the waves of the sea. 26 They rose up to the heavens, they went down to the depths; Their soul melted away in their misery. 27 They reeled and staggered like a drunken man, And were at their wits’ end. 28 Then they cried to the Lord in their trouble, And He brought them out of their distresses. 29 He caused the storm to be still, So that the waves of the sea were hushed. 30 Then they were glad because they were quiet, So He guided them to their desired haven.

[@panda6907]

@notafraidofchange see, and quoting scripture isn't enough. Especially when the validity of some of the new testament texts are up for debate.

[@kenyonbissett3512]

That’s because they are a cult not Christians.

[@The123dino]

If Fyodor Dostoevsky's short story "The Grand Inquisitor" is any indication, christians accusing christ of being too "weak" is not a new phenomena and has been a problem for 100s of years

[@magdadarling2655]

I freed myself from religion several decades ago. It was one of the BEST forms of Self Love I gifted to myself!

[@namitabhopal8763]

I love everything about this

[@panda6907]

Way to go! I'm so happy you were able to get out.

[@TMFJ747]

@@magdadarling2655 💯💪🏾❤️❤️❤️❤️💯💪🏾

[@Wveth]

Same. I never would have been able to heal as much as I have if I were still a christian. I know how much it sucks, so well done!

[@mintybadger6905]

I remember being a teenager and my youth pastor telling us “do you know who knows the Bible back and forth? Atheists!!”. That shocked me to my core. That people could read the Word of God and not be transformed and believe. Now that I’m an atheist, it makes sense.

[@martibee8984]

@@mintybadger6905 can confirm. Even a majority of the ones who don't know it well will look up whatever is being discussed to get the facts. Not something many Christians can claim truthfully.

[@SeekingTheLoveThatGodMeans7648]

well, if the rah rah of an institution is needed to do it, then it wasn't about a bible message at all.

[@panda6907]

Most atheists (in America) were at one point Christian, many very devoted to the faith. Reading the good word was my wake-up call. The atrocities and villain that is glorified in there was more than enough to walk away

[@TMFJ747]

@@mintybadger6905 💯❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️💯

[@KathrynElizabethJaneway]

I'm surprised he told the truth.

[@modernorpheus]

It's becoming fashionable to be less educated and knowledgeable about everything. The more you know about something, the less trustworthy you are.

[@phastinemoon]

It’s also worth noting that a lot of these people are big fans of certain philosophers and theories that say (or “say”) that having power and control over other people is good, actually (I use the quotes because so many of them love to cite Friedrich Wilhelm Nietzsche, except the versions of his philosophy that Reddit and incel forums like, and is nowhere near what he ACTUALLY wrote)

[@seileach67]

It's as if either accidentally or on purpose, they mix up/conflate the description of something that exists in order to condemn it, with proposing the way things ought to be.

[@animeotaku307]

Apparently, the version of Nietzsche that they’re so into was the version by his sister, who was super into Nazism.

[@anthonyhughes8026]

Ideologues have been co-opting Nietzche for their own agenda for a long time…

[@willmack3308]

One of the things that caused me to question Christianity was when I read the Bible from cover to cover. Among the absolute biggest hurdle in the old testament(and there were many) was the fact that God had “provided” the Israelites the land, but they had to wage a 7 year genocidal war to take it. The whole time I was thinking, if God promised the Israelites the land, couldn’t he have convinced the current people in that area to move? Better yet, couldn’t he have provided a nice uninhabited piece of land?

[@benjalucian1515]

Always my argument. For the Holy Land back then and for the founding of modern Israel. If god gave it to them, why did they have to fight a war for it? It's almost as if god had nothing to do with it and they just won it the usual way, by conquest. And actually they never really 'won' it at all since the ancient Hebrews never really got rid of the pagans living near them, and modern Israel has its headaches with the Arab folks still living where they've lived and not leaving.

[@brx8r]

I'm not sure you've read that right. What translation did you use?

[@sagesemadeni4024]

Not to mention that the land is basically a desert. You'd think god would've at least given them an area with loamy soil and decent rainfall.

[@benjalucian1515]

@@sagesemadeni4024 *Not to mention that the land is basically a desert* IKR? I'd always read how 'beautiful' the land was, and I asked a friend who went to Israel for a vacation if it was. She said flatly, "No." A co-worker went there and took pictures of the countryside and it didn't look beautiful in the slightest.

[@wargriffin5]

@@sagesemadeni4024 The Middle East was VERY different in the late Bronze Age. I wouldn't be surprised if ancient Israel was more in line with other Mediterranean climates, and therefore, very much habitable.

[@TheSunnymuffins]

Final form fundamentalism 😂

[@rummanamoledina4973]

This is theie final desperate bid

[@GaiaCarney]

@TheSunnymuffins - aka apostasy. Up next: The Antichrist and his cuz Beelzebub

[@anthonyhughes8026]

I wonder if the papacy is going to shrink the importance of Jesus in this new branding they have coming…

[@rummanamoledina4973]

@@anthonyhughes8026 Jesus will remain but as the lion of judah not as the lamb of god. The same thing has happened with the Hindu god Ram rebranded for war

[@Dr.Beetlejuice110]

It is gonna be a wild new year. Christian right is in charge and we are gonna see exactly what their interpretation of their religion is gonna do the USA. Good luck to us all.

[@panda6907]

The only way we get through this is by sticking together. Good people all banded and strong. May I recommend a visit to your local satanic temple?

[@surreallane9730]

Well, I hope that you would still push back and not lie down and wait for someone to save you. Help your fellow people and join a mutual aid and build a community.

[@panda6907]

@@Dr.Beetlejuice110 we only make it though if we stick together. Community makes us stronger. Now is the time to forge bonds between minorities and truly connect disadvantaged people with each other. Gay rights, black lives, everyone together, marching towards progress.

[@VampiraVonGhoulscout]

Good luck to the whole world because the rest of us will have to deal with it, too. AGAIN 🙄

[@panda6907]

@VampiraVonGhoulscout my advice? Deal with it before it's a problem. You know what's coming, put in the time and the safeguards.

[@TheRedStateBlue]

i was a republican until around 1995 or so, when the GOP fully embraced the evangelicals. i don't hate gay people. i don't want jesus in schools. i want rich people to pay their taxes. that makes me a RINO. so i vote down ballot democrat and have for almost 30 years.

[@danielcorona2188]

Jesus was liberal and a revolutionary! Thats not a bad thing its progress!

[@KathrynElizabethJaneway]

Ok, so it's just evangelicals now, no more calling them evangelical christians... No christ in it, officially. 😂

[@TheTerrainWizard]

There is no Christ like behavior in Evangelicals, though. 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@meemzing]

I've always just called them evangelicals. 😂 Not because I don't believe Xtians can't be extremist, but because actual native Christians exist in Asia and Africa. These paganized pirates are not it.

[@MaskedReviews]

Yes!

[@floydjohnson7888]

I came to look upon that faction as not only false in walking the walk of faith, but also having a poor grasp of theology.

[@tamiausten873]

I watched the Key and Peele skit of Jesus, Mary and a pimp. Of course there was a lot of swearing but the message of the Jesus was very clear . Jesus was calm throughout the interaction, Mary told the pimp "Jesus said we don't need things". He turned the other cheek when the pimp slapped him and when the guy got scared because who does that 😂😂 Jesus invited him to join them for dinner and the rest is history 😂😂. I mean it's a skit but damn, they got the picture better than most "Christians" do.

[@THEDOORIZCLOSED]

And in the story in the Bible Jesus was arrested. One of his disciples cut off the ear of one of the guards and Jesus chastised him and healed the mans ear. Never violent

[@Goddess_Infinity]

So the believe is that one of Noah’s sons (Ham-descendants of Africans ) were cursed because he said his father naked . But Jesus was all crucified by the Greco Romans(modern day Europeans ) . So my question is why are Africans cursed, but not Europeans who actually unloved gods children Jesus? That was my wake up call .

[@Goddess_Infinity]

So the believe is that one of Noah’s sons (Ham-descendants of Africans ) were cursed because he said his father naked . But Jesus was all crucified by the Greco Romans(modern day Europeans ) . So my question is why are Africans cursed, but not Europeans who actually unloved gods children Jesus? That was my wake up call .

[@warheadsnation]

@@Goddess_Infinity Because (a) the Europeans involved were the Romans, and St. Paul's later ambition was to convert Rome. And (b) the Romans got encouragement for the execution from the Pharisees - i.e., Jews. So once Christians split with Judaism and took over Rome, it was convenient to shift the blame for the Crucifixion from Romans to Jews.

[@gagaplex]

At least they acknowledge that they don't even follow Jesus, I guess. They used to try and pretend Jesus would hold their views.

[@warheadsnation]

They've found the replacement messiah they've craved for generations.

[@Fireandbubbles]

I was sent to a young earth creationist school when I was a kid, and I was “problematic” too. ❤ The only thing surprising to me about this article is that pastors are starting to admit it, but they encouraged this up until it got so obvious people were literally calling Jesus “woke” in a derogatory way, which threatens the pastors’ personal power.

[@MaskedReviews]

Yeah, it's fully on the pastors for preaching politics from the pulpit. They had the influence to actually help our country and chose money over compassion

[@bluntblade6887]

But why would they do that? Their whole reason is personal power, God is a nice little dressing to keep themselves in power.

[@godzilla964]

These guys never cared about Jesus’s teachings.

[@ChrisTian-rm7zm]

American evangelicals seem to love the Old Testament more than the New Testament. (With the exception of the Book of Revelation).

[@scrantonrogueofthesilvertr9031]

Old Testament is all about fire and genocide and rules and punishment. They love that shit. They don’t so much love the stuff about being a forgiving, compassionate person, caring for your community, and criticizing the wealthy.

[@jams1070]

Damn, not I (an atheist) respect the canon Jesus more than evangelicals 😂😂

[@thehighpriestess2139]

Literally the new Pharisees

[@jacobthelaserdragon4815]

Welcome to America, we took the worst parts of Christianity, Paternalism and Capitalism and kept NONE of the good parts! The system is working out FANTASTICALLY!

[@bellel.6666]

These people have been heretics since the 18th century. Merry Christmas 🎅 🎄 ❤️!

[@warheadsnation]

Evangelicals started out as egalitarian rebels against establishment churches. But once successful, they took on establishment values. No more so than in the Old Slave South, where the more powerful Methodists & Baptists became the more pro-slavery & later pro-secession. And those Southern factions became the biggest Evangelical forces nationwide. So their heresy was actually their mainstreaming into Southern casteism & inequality.

[@Vinnybin]

In today's episode of "Sadly, not The Onion"

[@greenben3744]

They really look at our jokes of them and think: "You know? I can one up that." Reality is stranger than fiction.

[@thethirdchimpanzee]

I like your channel! I am a white (straight/cis) male, but I am trying to hear from more non-white voices, especially black women.

[@sapphicmoonwitch]

Oh shit get the medals, get the cookies, we've got a hero Lmao performative ass

[@LiamODonovan-l6e]

I love your videos, shayna. i hope you have a great Christmas and 2025

[@hershadowalchemy]

If they're reacting this way to the safer teachings of Jesus, what will they do when they find out the MAJORITY of Jesus teachings that were intentionally excluded from their BOOK?? lmao

[@lynnefox4892]

Wait till they find out it's all fan fiction written decades and centuries after he was supposed to live 🤯

[@SeekingTheLoveThatGodMeans7648]

@@lynnefox4892 substantiation?

[@user67999]

Jesus was More moral than Christians😂😂😂 Love Jesus as an atheist.

[@antediluvianatheist5262]

@@lynnefox4892 this actually suits them, because then they can rewrite it the way they want.

[@VixxKong2]

Give us the tea, please

[@JoeSiegfried]

I don’t care how much bible the evangelicals think they know, their theology is very misguided, and just like the guy they worship in politics, it is woefully ignorant.

[@incomingincoming1133]

By their fruits you'll know them.

[@warheadsnation]

@@incomingincoming1133 Right now, I'm fearing mushrooms. As in clouds.

[@MaskedReviews]

Just the fact they have a living golden idol to worship is blasphemy by their own scripture.

[@incomingincoming1133]

@MaskedReviews ..do u think the ppl who say the statue of liberty is an idol in plain sight go too far?

[@MaskedReviews]

@@incomingincoming1133 the existence of statues doesn't make them idols, it's the worship. So yes, for some the statue of Liberty is an idol, but the problem is their attitude toward it.

[@disseria]

The whole point of Jesus is that he is subversive. That's the ENTIRE point of his birth, life, death, and ressurrection.

[@williamchamberlain2263]

Not really- he was subversive to the then-existing hierarchies/nations/governments, but the intention was that Christians would found a flatter more caring society. But then Paul started the process of turning it into an instrument of the Roman Empire, which Constantine finished.

[@disseria]

@@williamchamberlain2263 I wasn't talking about Paul.

[@MackerelSkyLtd]

@@williamchamberlain2263I haven’t read it myself, but I’ve heard “Paul among the People” makes a compelling argument that we’ve been misreading Paul because we missed the historical context he was writing into. Written from the perspective of a scholar on the ancient world.

[@cynthb]

I have a bookmark folder with a bunch of Bible quotes, mostly from Matthew, that I love to trot out at these folks. BTW I'm Buddhist now - raised Xtian, wandered around for a couple of decades, then here I am.

[@Stillwater23-q5r]

The thing is, one day they will face the Lord and have to explain it to Him. And they will be crying for the mercy they never gave.

[@ursomajor5607]

Exactly. I wish they would see the error of their unGodly ways, but some are so stuck in it.

[@93Current]

You can just imagine all these people arguing bible theology with Jesus. Jesus will be saying that he was misquoted, there are translation and editing errors, interpolations and even just plain inventions in the bible, and the person before him has interpreted it wrongly. He will probably say that ignorance of the law is no defence, then maybe someone will cite instances when clever legal arguments and considerations led to laws being amended. Poor old JC will probably get so frustrated he'll just send everybody the hell, saying that he did actually say that the road was narrow. I have always thought that christianity was like a school that contrived to send out 80% of its students still illiterate when they leave. If you read the bible literally, mankind was set up to fail. In the highly unlikely event that any of the Day of Judgement nonsense should prove to be true, then a good many smug christians are going to be very disappointed. Obviously, the concept of eternal punishment is totally disgusting, as well as completely pointless, but it has often worked as a nasty threat. Surely a proper christian would actually want to go to hell. For in that place there will be those in distress that they can give comfort to. Why would they want to just say, "Tough luck, I told ya!" while living the life of Riley in heaven?

[@ScotHarkins]

I argued with my once-KKK grandpa back in the late 70s and early 80s. He believed Black people were the "children of Cain", like Cain was turned Black. Scripture says Cain was marked on his forehead. "So, did the mark run maybe? Like seeped all the way down to his feet? But you said the Bible was literally true, so... Oh, and, how did Cain's descendants survive the Flood?" They told themselves a story, and stuck by it.

[@ZendreGlymph]

Merry Christmas Shayna! Thanks for your content! Hope you have a fabulous 2025!

[@UniquaDaBackyardigan]

4:12 I chuckled when you, a journalist, said "it literally writes itself", lol, I don't think that's possible.🤣. But seriously, I remember having a good laugh at this article with my atheist friend. I mean, we knew it was only a matter of time.

[@rebeccagibson9644]

Have a great winter holiday

[@dumendlovu3629]

3:24 and then when Enslaved people got their hands on the Bible advocated for their freedom

[@thegrunbeld6876]

Jesus was the woke of the Ancients.

[@scrantonrogueofthesilvertr9031]

HE LITERALLY WAS!

[@theotherky]

Knowing this, I now have to wonder what those Bibles with Trump's name slapped on them are saying.

[@trenae77]

This is why I appreciate that our Pastor teaches the WHOLE bible. Our current series is focusing on how Women who changed their world and time.

[@dannybrine8718]

"But whoever denies Me before men, him I will also deny before My Father who is in heaven" - Matthew 10:33 These people are not only denying jesus, they're openly mocking and insulting him.

[@d3pr0fundis]

Fascism is all about projecting strength and power (in the earthly sense of the words). It has always had an uneasy relationship with the message of Jesus, and often prefers neo-paganism since Norse or Teutonic myths and Roman gods were often significantly more vengeful and bloodthirsty. I’ve been waiting for this final form of American evangelical Christianity to emerge.

[@paulkerr7320]

Norse Pagan here, We have been working hard to get rid of them over the last 30+ years. Working under the banner of Odin is the AllFather, not the SomeFather. Its been hard but alot of progress has been made.

[@AlphaWolf096]

And the sad part is, as far as I can tell, even the Norse and Roman gods don’t like their ideology very much. Much less the Greek and Egyptian gods.

[@andreabrown4541]

Jesus was not a liberal. Jesus was a revolutionary. At least, Dr. Cone said he was when I was a child.

[@TMFJ747]

Deconvert ffs

[@hershadowalchemy]

I'm not sure Jesus would appreciate any of your political labels

[@TMFJ747]

@hershadowalchemy Ifffff he was real, doof.

[@hershadowalchemy]

@@TMFJ747 pls disappear.

[@andreabrown4541]

@@hershadowalchemy I suppose that depends on what version of Jesus you believe in: white Jesus or black Jesus.

[@skittlemilks1614]

The absolute state of men rn

[@panda6907]

I'm so sick of men. Why the hell am I gay!?

[@corporatecapitalism]

Hey don’t lump me in with those guys

[@JayzVeez]

Not all men are religious

[@753studios6]

Freeing yourself from the concept of “sin” is very liberating

[@Buc-eesGurl]

They are so double sided.

[@MaskedReviews]

Forcing schools to read the Bible is going to backfire on them BADLY. 😂 Critical reading tests are going to be fun. I don't think the evangelicals remember their English classes picking apart the classics.

[@richardryley3660]

If your belief is based in hatred and violence then absolutely you need to give up your beliefs. Outside of that I say live and let live. I have found most religious figures are peaceful, compassionate and liberal. Unfortunately the religions they found tend to eventually turn hateful and violent. Not all, but far too many.

[@timriehl1500]

They believe Trump is the new Jesus

[@susiebear3316]

I'm glad that I got to see this video. I thought that KZbin had taken it down!

[@TMFJ747]

@susiebear3316 I remember you. I hope you are prosperous in 2025. Be well.

[@ClarkDean-wj9go]

I know several people who call themselves "christians ". I don't know any christians.

[@andreroy8141]

Yeshua/ Jesus the Social Justice Warrior. Luke chp 4 verse 18) The Spirit of the Lord is upon me, because he has anointed me to preach the Gospel to the poor; he has sent me to heal the brokenhearted, to preach deliverance to the captives, and recovering sight to the blind, to set at liberty them that are bruised. His messages are directly aimed at the poor! Sorry Conservatives! Yes, Yeshua/Jesus is a Liberal! Proverbs chp 22 verse 22) Do not exploit the poor because they are poor and do not crush the needy in court, 23) for the Lord will take up their case and will exact life for life. Isaiah chp 10 Woe to those who make unjust laws, to those who issue oppressive decrees, to deprive the poor of their rights and withhold justice from the oppressed of my people, making widows their pray and robbing the fatherless. Ezekiel chp 22 verse 27) Her official's within her are like wolves tearing their prey; they shed blood and kill people to make unjust gain. 28) Her prophets whitewash these deeds for them by false visions and lying divinations. They say, This is what the Sovereign Lord has says'-when the Lord has not spoken. 29) The people of the land practice extortion and commit robbery, they oppress the poor and the needy and mistreat the foreigner, denying them justice. Philippians chp 3 vs 18) For many walk, of whom I have told you often, and now I tell you weeping, that they are the enemies of the cross of Christ, 19) Whose end is destruction, whose God is their appetite and whose glory is in their shame, who mind earthly things. 20) For our citizenship is in heaven, from which also we look for the Savior, the Lord Jesus Christ, 2 Peter chp 2. Peter is warning other Believers about false teachers. In verse 10) But chiefly them that walk after the flesh in lust of cleanness, and despise government. Presumptuous are they; self-willed, they are not afraid to speak evil of dignities. Matthew chp 25 verse 35) For I was hungry, and you gave me food; I was thirsty, and you gave me drink; I was a stranger, and you took me in; Deuteronomy chp 24 verse 17) Thou shalt not pervert the justice due the stranger, nor the fatherless, nor take a widows raiment to pledge; Exodus chp 22 verse 21) Do not mistreat or oppress a foreigner, for you were foreigners in Egypt. Leviticus chp 19 verse 34) But the stranger dwells with you shall be unto you as one born among you, and thou shall love him as thyself; for you were strangers in the land of Egypt: I am the Lord your God. Hebrews chp 13 verse 2) Be not forgetful to entertain strangers; for thereby some have entertained angels unaware.

[@JBofBrisbane]

I was a bit worried that was going to go on all night. But I get your point.

[@samuelcox358]

Yeah, I wouldn't be completely against bibles in school if they actually did read it critically. Especially the parts like the conflicting stories of jesus's death, the fact that there's 2 versions of the 10 commandments, the instructions for priests to make abortion potions to condemn adulterer women, how believers are supposed to have magic healing powers, SA by 2 daughters to their father, and the list goes on. Also would be nice for a better explanation for why there's books that were considered biblical but were taken out hundreds of years after jesus died. Funny how even after attending church for more than 10 years the pastors never brought up ANY of these things, even to explain or excuse them....

[@pillmuncher67]

Fun Fact: Since these people call Jesus weak, and since - according to Christianity - Jesus is God, they're calling God weak.

[@djwaglmuffin]

I keep saying it but we're in the age of the lukewarm church.

[@swoops7687]

Evangelicals finally learning that Jesus’s teachings are the exact opposite of the things they preach

[@zenosAnalytic]

Yeah. Idk if you mention it later in the vid, but the WHOLE REASON the "Southern Baptist Convention" even exists, why they broke away from the national Baptist org leading up to the civil war, is they thought it wasn't sufficiently pro slavery. Like: not even that it was ANTI-slavery; just that it wasn't loudly pro-slavery, and refused to change how it chose delegates for the national conference to favor planter-led southern congregations, so they could MAKE IT pro-slavery. Racism(and class, since the delegate changes would have empowered the white planters against more egalitarian northern and western white congregations within the denomination) is the WHOLE REASON the Southern Baptist Convention is even a THING

[@SamSpray-jg9hz]

This is hell.

[@TMFJ747]

NO SUCH THING ffs

[@sechernbiw3321]

A Catholic priest said something interesting to me shortly before he passed away in 2022. He said that the real conservative values of Christianity were the peaceful, loving, merciful and egalitarian values of Jesus, while the people who typically call themselves conservative today are actually innovators and right-wing modernizers, but just either aren't aware of it or else claim to be traditional in order to avoid the impossible job of having to try to justify what they want on its own merits. He said the people who call themselves right-wing traditionalists are inspired by a mix of what Christianity was like in the medieval period and what Christianity was like in the early modern period (1500-1600s), but Jesus's values are a lot older than the medieval period, and the medieval and early modern people were innovating and replacing Jesus's values when they came up with the right-wing ideas that are now claimed to be traditional values. He said he believed in the traditional values of Jesus and always tried to encourage right-wing Christians who say they are traditionalists to return to the eternal tradition of Jesus, which for him included things like healing the sick without asking for payment, caring for all outcasts, turning the other cheek, being compassionate towards all people no matter what they do, and standing in the way of all forms of cruelty, injustice or disregard of the unfortunate.

[@seankane8628]

The return of the "Aryan Christ"?

[@thedandyrobber1045]

So... They're dismissing the part of the Holy Trinity that represents mercy and kindness??? I'm not well versed in Christian lore, but I do understand enough to know The New Testament and Jesus are about redemption, salvation and mercy. I'm fairly certain that saying One third of the Holy Trinity is "weak" is blasphemous. As for the Son of God being "liberal", well, Jesus once turned merchants out of a temple: That doesn't seem very Liberal to me.

[@antediluvianatheist5262]

Wait till they find out the Lord's prayer was altered. It used to say 'and forgive them their debts.' And it meant money. Yup, debt forgiveness was literally in the lord's prayer.

[@kenyonbissett3512]

Not just money. You can owe people or they can owe you many things like loyalty, respect, help, etc.

[@Vohlfied]

According to Jesus all debts more than seven years old shall be forgiven.

[@kenyonbissett3512]

@@Vohlfied Deuteronomy 15, Old Testament. And Jubilee every 49 yrs. Interesting fact. Before WW2, all mortgages were only 7yrs in accordance with biblical standards/principles.

[@CorndogMaker]

and Jesus said "blessed are the billionaires for they are better than those dirty poors"

[@kfork814]

Huh

[@CelynBrum]

I'm from the UK. We're an officially Christian Country (Church of England/Anglican state religion) and even though I was raised agnostic/atheist, I really feel that cultural influence when I hear things like this. Because I am offended by these fake-ass "Christians" who will claim that others aren't Christian enough then turn around and reject the word of Christ. Shallow, hateful appropriation of sincere faith - disgusting.

[@bluntblade6887]

Funny enough I was raised in Church myself here in the South (partially by these sorts), but similarly left all of that behind years ago.I have found a few times where I was in a similar situation. It’s an interesting experience being an atheist who shows more disgust for the perversion of someone’s faith than supposed members of said faith.

[@mainstreetsaint36]

As a former Christian, this confuses me greatly. You can't claim to love Jesus and then turn around and hate him. One thing I was taught back in the 80s and 90s going to Sunday school and church services is you cannot perform lip service. Worship and prayer must be fully in spirit and in truth. Otherwise it is hollow and false. And in reality, they're serving a different master. And the bible states you cannot serve two masters.

[@MidnightOracle8]

Chile....

[@RustyhairedAlp9575]

Turns out the red rider was orange the whole time

[@MaskedReviews]

Golden idol worship too

[@destroyraiden]

He's 5,000 years late the party

[@MackerelSkyLtd]

I’m so sad that genuine interaction with scripture in your church was seen as “troublesome” instead of something to engage with meaningfully. If that was how my church or my parents treated me as a child I would not be cool with them today.

[@crlake]

Evangelicals have always followed the god they believe in... YAHWEH = Molock, it was never Jesus. Weird how they just discovered that today/last year.

[@crlake]

Evangelicals have NEVER followed the teachings of Jesus. Never. I hope that helps them.

[@andreabrown4541]

​​​@@crlakeChristian Century (?) was the progressive evangelical magazine until Christianity Today came along. The backlash against Dr. King was real. Then there's the black progressive evangelical Sojourners. Hope this helps you understand the history. I am not an evangelical. I was raised Catholic late 1950s, 1960s in Arkansas no less.

[@goodbher9244]

Yeah. Jesus wants what they want, and God has their values. Rich white men who live off gullible Christians spread their personal ideology, and then they say it's God speaking through them. Even though Jesus was very clear in the Bible and their ideology doesn't line up.

[@crlake]

​@@andreabrown4541 The history of what? I said what I said and didn't stutter. Evangelical have NEVER followed the teachings of Jesus Christ. If the backlash against Dr. King and other black progressives was a problem--and it was gonna be, then you already proved my point without needing to write any of that. YAHWEH in the old testament was very clear on his demands of bigotry, blood s a c r i f i c e, r a p e and mass m u r d e r. I hope this helps you understand, how goofy this was.

[@crlake]

@@andreabrown4541 I don't need a history when the actions of those we're speaking of are evendent. I said what I said and didn't stutter. Evangelical have NEVER followed the teachings of Jesus Christ. If the backlash against Dr. King and other black progressives was a problem--and it was gonna be, then you already proved my point.

[@Emily-d7w3l]

I’m glad folks are finally learning what Jesus was actually teaching us and realizing it doesn’t fit their worldview. Now if only those folks would either really look inward and ask themselves “Why, as a Christian, do I criticize the very issues that Jesus preached about?” or just leave Christianity all together so the religion can become about loving all of humanity regardless of their social or economic class and raising up the marginalized and oppressed. A woman can dream. As a side note, my church has women in pastoral and other church leadership and governing positions and is a kind and empathetic little community. Coincidence? I think not.

[@BlueNotaMaestro]

Yup, right on cue, and it will culminate in the fulfillment of Matthew 7:21-23 Sad but true, and I totally agree with you. Many would be shocked if they actually opened and read the Bible, e.g. Hebrews 13:2, Leviticus 19:33-34

[@Octoberfurst]

Great video! Commenting for the algorithm.

[@rummanamoledina4973]

Hypocrites

[@TMFJ747]

They are who we thought they were!!!

[@gusty7153]

i swear this sounds more like an onion news parody report. the whole point of christianity as a whole is that jesus is god. especially with evangelicals.

[@marieabner]

That's blasphemy!

[@TMFJ747]

It's all make believe ffs

[@SunnyJustice]

@@TMFJ747 Ragebaiting is funny when it's not obvious.

[@panda6907]

Evangelists? Yes, heritacal and blasphemous.

[@DundG]

​​@@TMFJ747So? They claim to believe, so they commited one if the worst crimes according to their stance.

[@gerardotejada2531]

The first one to speak against slavery was a Priest (Bartolome de las Casas). Centuries later Christians used the myth of Adam and Eve to justify universal equiality and the end of a slavery. This is not religion, this is the National Culture of US, the same country that has given us Anti Vaxers, Creationists, Climate Change Denial, Flat Earthers, School Shootings, Manifest Destiny, MAGA movement and Woke Ideology. We have arrived to the point that I firmly think If people experienced living in China (yes a totalitarian Country) for a year they will feel safer, at peace, and wouldnt want to comeback. Because even hell feels better than a madhouse.

[@waddledoo2you13]

Ahh, it’s come full circle

[@Goddess_Infinity]

So the believe is that one of Noah’s sons (Ham-descendants of Africans ) were cursed because he said his father naked . But Jesus was all crucified by the Greco Romans(modern day Europeans ) . So my question is why are Africans cursed, but not Europeans who actually unloved gods children Jesus? That was my wake up call .

[@AntiFaGoat]

The gospels get more antisemitic as they go along. Mark was likely written first, and describes Pilat flatly as the one who ordered the crucifixion. By the time we get to John, the Jewish people are declaring "a curse on us and all our children." 😬 ^ It's easy to see how twisted the ideology becomes when you read the Bible with the context of when it was written and what message was being communicated.

[@antediluvianatheist5262]

because it's all made up.

[@brialapoint2608]

Noah didnt exist. Read the epic of Gilgamesh.

[@Goddess_Infinity]

@ And that right there makes it worse . Because they used that ideology to brainwash the world .

[@Goddess_Infinity]

@ And that right there makes it worse . Because they used that ideology to brainwash the world .

[@KossolaxtheForesworn]

seems pretty heretical to me

[@buddyjones5419]

So Jesus out Cheeseus in.

[@TMFJ747]

@@buddyjones5419 😆🤣🤣🤣🤣😆

[@BlakeGeometrio]

The Onion couldn't even make this up. This is not surprising coming from people who believe that Jesus was a real person and that he'll physically come back soon. 😂😂😂

[@antediluvianatheist5262]

there is an onion skit about this from like 4-5 years back.

[@kaecatlady]

Chistians: The reason Christ had absolutely no interest in creating an Earthly "church" (whatever Christians themselves want to insist).

[@seekingabsolution1907]

Much like the enlightenment thinkers had some influence on all later European philosophers, Christianity has always played some role in different moral principles of the ideologies of Europe and its colonies. When reading the Bible you *should* expect to see where your ideological enemies are coming from, you should see where they got that idea from even whilst disagreeing with their interpretation. The Bible will make you feel uncomfortable because loads of people who wrote down those scriptures over many centuries who wanted to convey different and possibly contradicting ideas to their fellow Christians in their times.

[@halosandhorns8]

Hope he doesn't blame the dudes in prison for what they do to him 🤷 it's not their fault, he shouldn't have ended up in jail with them.

[@hershadowalchemy]

Apostle Paul would love this one

[@Seekstae]

Im not sure whats going on anymore.

[@ursomajor5607]

As a Christian who was raised evangelical, it is infuriating what people dare to do to God’s image. Christianity isn’t supposed to be about control, but of love and acceptance, but it has been controlling like that, really, since the Middle Ages. And ofc overall Abrahamic religion even before that. It’s disgusting. I will never let go of my faith, but I don’t think I consider myself part of the church, because it is messed up and a vile cesspit. Jesus was liberal in his time, and he is “liberal” now. Kindness, acceptance, finding personal strength, and helping others are major aspects of liberalism, and it is also the Word of God.

[@NeilDonald-y5h]

Your generalization is based on American data. In Canada, we see relatively little of this phenomenon. Please do not confuse us with evangelicals who have sold out to Trump and the GOP. Many of my evangelical friends are left leaning.

[@corporatecapitalism]

Pretty sure she’s mostly just talking within america because I’ve never had a problem with a non US Christian.

[@Theomite]

Proof to me that people believe in God/Jesus because they're trying to milk His affinity for gains. That's why loyalty is so important to them. They think that loyalty to Power is what makes a person moral and that loyalty earns them rewards. It's entirely material and devoid of any spiritual insight.