Are these the most powerful brakes in the world?

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Evans MTB Saga

2 жыл бұрын

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Are Shi-gura brakes more powerful than the Trickstuff Maxima brakes? The internet seems to think so! Let's find out!
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@skinnyslide
@skinnyslide 2 жыл бұрын
The harder you pull the lever the more braking power you get is exactly how brakes are supposed to work....
@aaroncampbell1617
@aaroncampbell1617 2 жыл бұрын
Not necessarily
@amielngitngit912ge6
@amielngitngit912ge6 Жыл бұрын
@@aaroncampbell1617 but thats how it works doe
@curtislavoie2242
@curtislavoie2242 Жыл бұрын
@@aaroncampbell1617 please enlighten me then.
@JH-fx2hv
@JH-fx2hv Жыл бұрын
I personally also prefer the on/off feel on my bikes
@sepg5084
@sepg5084 Жыл бұрын
@@aaroncampbell1617 oh my sweet summer child...
@Christophe_L
@Christophe_L 2 жыл бұрын
It's not modulation the thing you didn't like, it's actually brake power. Those brakes had too much power for you. If the brakes didn't have modulation you would have no way to slow down without skidding. To make them less prone to overbrake without changing brakes, I would have just put smaller rotors or changed the pad compound. But Shigura is def a better value proposition.
@kevinstevenson7389
@kevinstevenson7389 2 жыл бұрын
Here, I thought sarcasm was only lost on dogs and little kids....
@Christophe_L
@Christophe_L 2 жыл бұрын
@@kevinstevenson7389 Hey Kevin, I didn't catch the fact that he meant it ironically. Probably a lot of people didn't either since my comment got a few upvotes. Watching it again, I'm pretty sure he meant it seriously but I could be wrong. Thanks for the snark though.
@alexisonbike3652
@alexisonbike3652 2 жыл бұрын
Some people prefer the on/off feeling instead of modulation
@Christophe_L
@Christophe_L 2 жыл бұрын
@@alexisonbike3652 I agree. I'm more in the Shimano camp, I like that instant feel. But the problem he had was the opposite. He panic braked and sent too much braking power to the wheels. If anything he's missing MORE modulation.
@chrisperkins4279
@chrisperkins4279 2 жыл бұрын
I agree. I had to downsize my front rotors to 180 on my Enduro for this reason
@th_js
@th_js 2 жыл бұрын
1:35 No, you didn't "experience brake modulation", you simply pulled the lever too hard and had your center of gravity in the wrong place for the given time. Brake modulation doesn't mean the relative increase in force that the pistons push out at as you pull the lever further in. The modulation means how much "squish" there is that can be controlled before the wheel locks. And for the rider, brake modulation means the physical ability to be precise with the brakes and being able to control the braking force with your fingers, instead of locking the wheels every time you brake.
@mandycharva563
@mandycharva563 2 жыл бұрын
Someone understands
@brianharris4144
@brianharris4144 2 жыл бұрын
This guy gets it. With the right body position you are never going otb from brakes alone with modern geo. Your wheel will lock up and slide well before you flip.
@isaacliljegren1106
@isaacliljegren1106 2 жыл бұрын
THANK YOU i thought i was alone!
@jakers5016
@jakers5016 2 жыл бұрын
@@brianharris4144 exactly, i can lean back and slam front and back brakes and just slide without going OTB
@stanlee28
@stanlee28 Жыл бұрын
dude u are speaking fax
@goobe_r
@goobe_r 2 жыл бұрын
man i love yo videos, even if youre a small youtuber, you still give in one of top tier content, like you explaining stuff feels rlly easy to understand and it feels relaxing
@yengsabio5315
@yengsabio5315 2 жыл бұрын
That's the proper way to naturally grow subscription, in my view!
@chrisperkins4279
@chrisperkins4279 2 жыл бұрын
Nice video. Shigura for the win. Have this setup on 2 of my rigs, (one two pot setup and one four pot setup). I use 9210s on my 4 pots because servowave ftw. It doesn't really matter which calipers you use (get the cheapest ones!), and it doesn't matter which brake fluid or lines you use. Highly recommend bleeding using a syringe on the top side and back-bleeding through the magura calipers for best results. Also, don't connect the caliper to the frame until the bleed is complete so you can get the air pocket that likes to get stuck in there.
@PanaehaliTut
@PanaehaliTut 2 жыл бұрын
Do you mean you can use any magura calipers for this and would work as well? Im curious to try but the price sets me off )
@_.snke._
@_.snke._ 2 жыл бұрын
@@PanaehaliTut technically yes
@funband1t198
@funband1t198 2 жыл бұрын
@@PanaehaliTut Just buy a set of mt5s + m8120 xt levers and sell the unused new mt5 levers.
@ironeinar
@ironeinar 2 жыл бұрын
@@PanaehaliTut You can try MT5 and Deore Lever, too. Does work well if im not mistaken and isn't pricey at all if you compare it. But after a while of riding Shigura, I actually have to say that I like the feel of the MT5 and the 1 finger lever and the feel of the MT7 with the standard lever a bit better. But both is really good.
@chrisperkins4279
@chrisperkins4279 2 жыл бұрын
@@PanaehaliTut I have tried two pot Shimano levers with two pot magura calipers and found them to be massively more powerful than Shimano calipers. Same for 4 pots. Not sure about crossing 4 pot calipers with 2 pot levers but the author of this fine video seems to prefer this setup.
@rafaelgesser9589
@rafaelgesser9589 11 ай бұрын
nice video man, seeing it from brazil and i want to se more crazy things like these
@user-xl6zz2ty7g
@user-xl6zz2ty7g 2 жыл бұрын
I bought a set of Magura Mt5 trail sport . The front brake is 4 piston, the rear 2 pistons. Rolled back in 2021, without mountains and steep descents. Regularly serviced, pumped with the original liquid. This year, on the front brake of 4 pistons, one began to climb out more than the others. and pressed the rotor with a skew to the brake housing. I cleaned the pistons, lubricated them, pumped them again-nothing helped-as the pads worked crookedly, it didn't get any better. Rear brake: the pistons come out unevenly - one goes further, and the other lags behind. One pad rubs on the disk, the second is fine. Cleaned, oiled, enough for a few stops, then again one shoe came out. I concluded for myself that all these games with Magura, Formula and others are useless. Shimano works without problems. brakes perfectly, informative. There are no problems with pumping, pads on Aliexpress can be found without problems, as well as spare parts for the brake itself. Why these experiments with crooked brakes?
@vladmihailungu646
@vladmihailungu646 2 жыл бұрын
Massive fan of your videdos! Keep up the good work!
@Hadroncollider_
@Hadroncollider_ Жыл бұрын
I had the exact same shigura setup, broke a lever and switched back to full magura, used steel braided brake hoses and adjustable Oak root-lever pros... it's a little more expensive, but I like that setup the most so far. You can set it up to have full brake power in like 3mm of lever travel.
@El_Guap
@El_Guap 26 күн бұрын
Seriously, how did AG1 get SOOOO much marketing money... there is not a single area of interest on KZbin where there aren't paying for ads/sponsorship. Bikes, Pickleball, fishing, medical information, physics, instahos, golf, apple tech... the list goes on and on. Absolutely wild!
@stevenpf7843
@stevenpf7843 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome content Evan Love your videos! Keep it Going!🔥👍
@jedlane2977
@jedlane2977 2 жыл бұрын
Man I have been watching you’re vids for a while and you have improved to making some of the best quality films I have seen in a while. I love you’re honesty and experiments, keep up the great work.
@homicidalsalamander3742
@homicidalsalamander3742 2 жыл бұрын
I think it’s funny how a little over a year ago he was a first time mountain biker and now he has one of the nicest bikes on the platform.
@EvansMTBSaga
@EvansMTBSaga 2 жыл бұрын
Haha it is funny. The trail I was riding in the video was the first trail system that I rode too and it's definitely not as fun with such a fancy bike
@marthajam
@marthajam 10 ай бұрын
I made a set of "sramano" brakes. I used Shimano BL-M6100 levers and a set of sram DB8 calipers. Wicked powerful and cheap ! Mix and match for the win! If you have these parts ( any shimano levers will do).
@thephoenixcycle8854
@thephoenixcycle8854 2 ай бұрын
Are they better than pure Shimano, SRAM, Shigura or just an experiment?
@adamneulander
@adamneulander 2 жыл бұрын
Magura makes a model called the mt thirty for $96, which has the same caliper as the mt7. Not only that but it comes with the performance pads. Best value for upgrading your 2 pot shimanos imo.
@robertobravi5426
@robertobravi5426 2 жыл бұрын
I have the MT Thirty and they are very solid
@adamneulander
@adamneulander 2 жыл бұрын
@@robertobravi5426 this man knows what's up
@EvansMTBSaga
@EvansMTBSaga 2 жыл бұрын
Adam you made the video with your comment (again!) I feel like you've given me so many great ideas for the channel, so thank you very much dude. As for the caliper, I wanted that gun metal grey to match the XTR 😍
@adamneulander
@adamneulander 2 жыл бұрын
@@EvansMTBSaga of course, glad to be of service! The gray with thr xtr lever and mt7 caliper looks sick!
@That_Stealth_Guy
@That_Stealth_Guy 2 жыл бұрын
I had to like your post and give you a comment. I have the MT Thrity's on one of my bikes with 180 mm rotors front and rear. Love them. I don't think a lot of people know about them since they are not listed on Magura's website. Boy do they work like crazy though.. Adding a good Shimano lever to them would only make them better and save some $$$, which is a great thing right now.
@jamessmall6826
@jamessmall6826 2 жыл бұрын
Great video as always
@matthewshepherd826
@matthewshepherd826 2 жыл бұрын
Brilliant video mate 👍
@Aboo_G2199
@Aboo_G2199 2 жыл бұрын
I like your channel so much that I subscribed after two videos
@MTBfixHQ
@MTBfixHQ 2 жыл бұрын
Brake modulation means you have more control of the braking power, pulling lightly will give weak braking, pulling hard will give hard braking, a braking system with good modulation is what most riders are looking for although there are some riders who prefer a harder bite with less modulation like the Shimano XT brakes
@dougsrosen
@dougsrosen 2 жыл бұрын
Modulation is where it's at. I don't see the benefit of having an on off brake switch.
@tylerbruce5731
@tylerbruce5731 2 жыл бұрын
Yes and servowave is the opposite of modulation. Its entire purpose is to quickly ramp up power.
@MTBfixHQ
@MTBfixHQ 2 жыл бұрын
@@dougsrosen beats the heck out of me lol, maybe weak fingers? the biggest problem with grabby brakes is its too easy to lock the front wheel if you decide to use any front brake while cornering which always results in a crash, bad recipe for novice riders
@dougsrosen
@dougsrosen 2 жыл бұрын
@@tylerbruce5731 no that's still modulation. Just a mechanical assist.
@dougsrosen
@dougsrosen 2 жыл бұрын
@@MTBfixHQ yep. More modulation equals less lockups. Unless you have your brakes sooo weak you can't lock em up. Which technically means you're underbraked
@rainerbowden2714
@rainerbowden2714 2 жыл бұрын
Man i love the new camera set up on the bike! Keep it up man I remember when you were at 7k subscribers and now your at almost 50k. So proud man, keep going! 👍
@jacobg130productions
@jacobg130productions 2 жыл бұрын
Never heard of this till now, but I have used Shimano Brakes and Magura rotors before. Works good 👍🏻
@jjonesmtb
@jjonesmtb 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the way you did the sponsor message. Loved the way you worked on the other half of the screen! 🤘
@amountainbiker2654
@amountainbiker2654 2 жыл бұрын
Love the longer riding segment
@jtrider3779
@jtrider3779 2 жыл бұрын
While I love your content, I’m a bit confused at your overall objective on this one. You said that in a panic braking scenario, you almost went OTB, so you opted OUT of modulating brakes. The alternative to brake modulation would be an on/off switch, correct? Basically, a light switch vs a dimmer switch. In your case, it doesn’t seem like less modulation should be the solution to your problem. You, or somebody else can explain if I am missing something here, but this seems like the wrong solution.
@EvansMTBSaga
@EvansMTBSaga 2 жыл бұрын
It's hard to describe feel. But with the Trickstuff brakes, I never really had to pull the brakes that hard before then, so I didn't know the power they truly had. With my new set up, the power is there right away and I feel like I can control it better
@jtrider3779
@jtrider3779 2 жыл бұрын
@@EvansMTBSaga ok, so you would say that this new setup feels more predictable then? In that sense, I totally get it.
@EvansMTBSaga
@EvansMTBSaga 2 жыл бұрын
@@jtrider3779 Yes absolutely. Glad we could work through that haha. Its hard covering all the right things to say in a video sometimes.
@jtrider3779
@jtrider3779 2 жыл бұрын
@@EvansMTBSaga I gotcha, no worries man! Thanks for the reply and clarification though! Keep doing what you’re doing. I think you’re becoming a favorite MTB KZbinr among a lot of us.
@mandycharva563
@mandycharva563 2 жыл бұрын
@@EvansMTBSaga try hope tech brakes
@Mikesonbikes
@Mikesonbikes 2 жыл бұрын
Leverage curve and curve in the lever are not the same concept. A leverage curve is in reference the force, depicted by an x/y graph. A curve in the lever is a bend in the piece of metal. I have a similar setup on the way but using saint levers (edited because I misspelled depicted)
@rtgMTB
@rtgMTB Жыл бұрын
that had to have been the hardest "keep your face straight for an ad" i've ever seen well done.
@EvansMTBSaga
@EvansMTBSaga Жыл бұрын
😂
@GokkunGuru
@GokkunGuru 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent video. Love how the ad doesn't interrupt the content using PIP. Great 80s electronic music. I too run Shigura but to a lesser extent of Frankensteinism (Deore XT brake levers/calipers with Magura Storm SL.2 rotors.
@th_js
@th_js 2 жыл бұрын
That's just Shimano with Magura rotors. Shigura is literally only when you connect Magura brake caliper with Shimano master cylinder.
@blacklegsan9918
@blacklegsan9918 Жыл бұрын
Recently I found this KZbinr love ur context bro v interesting 👍
@BowzKnows
@BowzKnows 2 жыл бұрын
I'm a huge fan of the on-off feel of Shimano too!
@compasteedee
@compasteedee 2 жыл бұрын
Man, I love this video. Doing the Frankenstein/experimental stuff is SUPER interesting. Evan, you need to consider this as a regular/semi-regular series. I'm a bike tinkerer and always trying stuff out, the internet is often a place where people share opinions as fact with no real basis in actual facts. I've got so many ideas of things like this that I would like to try!
@byp4ss514
@byp4ss514 2 жыл бұрын
Shigura isn’t a very niche thing
@compasteedee
@compasteedee 2 жыл бұрын
@@byp4ss514 It isn't, but it is a Frankenstein set-up.The reality is that there are more opinions on the internet than actual lived experience with things like this, so it's good to watch someone do it with such quality and entertainment.
@suvikristjan
@suvikristjan Жыл бұрын
Mixing Shimano levers and Magura calipers is actually so 2000-s. I remember times when Magura Marta SL levers used to start leaking after some time and Shimano levers were quite bombproof and at first was experimenting just for fun. And it really worked. The modulation and braking power was totally something else.
@jopal
@jopal 2 жыл бұрын
You deserve more subs and views!
@vickyxd4293
@vickyxd4293 2 жыл бұрын
This is the best review for shigura so far.
@bartvandenbrink2701
@bartvandenbrink2701 2 жыл бұрын
Nice content my g
@ridecrashrepeat3207
@ridecrashrepeat3207 2 жыл бұрын
Brake modulation is the way to go. I don't always need the same amount of stopping power so being able to control it is best for me.
@ElevatedMtbAvion
@ElevatedMtbAvion 2 жыл бұрын
evan channel is grown like crazy man gj
@EvansMTBSaga
@EvansMTBSaga 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks dude!
@harryls1283
@harryls1283 2 жыл бұрын
It is always very interesting watching you doing all those changes and upgrades to your bikes. I admire also your ability, knowledge to do it. 🤙
@MTBAlex
@MTBAlex 2 жыл бұрын
Nice combo
@isaks3243
@isaks3243 12 күн бұрын
the easiest and cheapest way to get that on off feal is to just get a set of magura mt7 with the hc3 lever blades and set them the most towards the grabby setting and then slowly back off to get the modulation you want from the brakes. that is what I did and I have never felt any better feeling brakes.
@zane10
@zane10 2 жыл бұрын
i like that the content didn't stop for the plug ... side by side was amazing !!
@brianbowen295
@brianbowen295 29 күн бұрын
Ive been running shiguras for like 5 years now. Still havent found anything to make me want to swap away from it. MT5 calipers, XT non servo levers, and MTX braking gold pads. cant beat it. I bought the XT levers as used take offs, and I got the calipers used off pinkbike. All in im in it like a few hundred bucks
@ainteasya
@ainteasya 2 жыл бұрын
Playing ads during the labor montage is genius. Let's us keep enjoying the video while also forcing the ad on us haha
@jlrover2k5
@jlrover2k5 2 жыл бұрын
Great way to share the sponsorship for the video
@EvansMTBSaga
@EvansMTBSaga 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks man! I like it too
@ericmathes1550
@ericmathes1550 Жыл бұрын
Watching these vids always reminds me how blessed I am to have a place like TN to ride
@EvansMTBSaga
@EvansMTBSaga Жыл бұрын
I'll visit there soon! I live in Bentonville now.
@ericmathes1550
@ericmathes1550 Жыл бұрын
@@EvansMTBSaga I bet you’re loving it compared to riding in the desert
@BrokeGalaxy41
@BrokeGalaxy41 2 жыл бұрын
In my experience with shigura they were more powerful than shimano saints and hope v4/e4. The magura calliper improved modulation and they felt less on off. Also cheaper to set up than it would be to buy a set of 4 pot xts, after selling the magura levers.
@rareshamburda8120
@rareshamburda8120 2 жыл бұрын
he said he didn't like the modulation tho?
@BrokeGalaxy41
@BrokeGalaxy41 2 жыл бұрын
@@rareshamburda8120 well in my experience the shigura set up has great modulation and you can actually feather the brakes. Much prefer them over TRP g spec, hopes etc
@ancogbernard
@ancogbernard 2 жыл бұрын
modulation s*cks. when you're a type of rider that dont want to hold the lever all the time. cause it a little delay when you sudden brake.
@BrokeGalaxy41
@BrokeGalaxy41 2 жыл бұрын
@@ancogbernard I need modulation if I'm riding wet techy steeps.
@glynparry5796
@glynparry5796 2 жыл бұрын
I've been running MT5 callipers and Deore levers for a few years on my dh bike and they are awesome. I put Saint's on my ebike last July and the pistons have failed on them already so the calipers will be getting swapped for Magura's.
@carsandtools
@carsandtools 2 жыл бұрын
Which Deore levers you have? M6100?
@Adwardok81
@Adwardok81 2 жыл бұрын
Nice video. Did it on my bike after having master cylinder seals issues on my MT7s due to crashes. Bought a pair of XT 8120 levers and never looked back. Amazing feeling and enough power to stop my fat ass.
@cataplt
@cataplt 2 жыл бұрын
LOL, on Wednesday I was looking for parts to upgrade my brakes (2022 Polygon Siskiu T8). I thought "I wonder if Evans has a preferred since we ride a lot of the same stuff" (I live very close to you). I tried to find a way to contact you directly, but did not see a easy way and with Seths recent video about all the questions he gets I decided to just go for broke and order some stuff on my own. I just installed new brakes on my bike 2 hours before posting this. I seated the brakes in the driveway, loaded up my bike for a Prescott ride in the morning, and sat down to drink a beer before bed. I turn on my computer and what comes up....... LOL, really. Oh well.... now lets watch the vid.
@EvansMTBSaga
@EvansMTBSaga 2 жыл бұрын
Shoot me an email man, I'm down for a new riding partner evansmtbsaga@gmail.com
@cataplt
@cataplt 2 жыл бұрын
Great vid as always, thank you. Gotta say that is a bit more then I am willing to spend on brakes, but still great information.
@sonofawil
@sonofawil 2 жыл бұрын
Yep. Panic breaking is deadly. First set of 4 pots, caused me to lock up the front several times. I’m still at risk when instinct takes over.
@johnsonjay60
@johnsonjay60 2 жыл бұрын
Trp🤘 cool video bro!
@renenavarro4121
@renenavarro4121 2 жыл бұрын
Great video as always! What's the name of the tool you used to cut brake hoses and press the nips and olives?
@thegreatzuchini9201
@thegreatzuchini9201 2 жыл бұрын
Good job Evan's getting sponsors, he's spent like $2000 on brakes in one month!
@Justin0765
@Justin0765 2 жыл бұрын
Nice! I’ve been interested in trying my xt levers with saint calipers.
@benatherton536
@benatherton536 2 жыл бұрын
With saint compared to XT the major difference is in the lever. The calliper is slightly larger, meaning more heat dissipation but the lever pushes significantly more fluid with more power. You would be better off simply getting a saint brakeset or doing a shigura setup like the one in the video.
@njasicko
@njasicko 2 жыл бұрын
I have SRAM guide 4 pot on front and level 2 pot on rear with level ultimate levers on trail bike, enduro is guide ultimate front and rear. Both with Brembro dot 5 fluid from my race car with a boiling point if over 650 in each. Never had any issues with either and the modulate just fine even when it has been over 95f this whole week of riding.
@david.vandergoes
@david.vandergoes 2 жыл бұрын
I like this video. Nice work. I have to ask: When did you order and receive your Trickstuff brakes? I ordered a set back in May 2019. Still have not received them. Thanks in advance for the reply!
@ismaelburdilesarriaza4653
@ismaelburdilesarriaza4653 2 жыл бұрын
hi Evans. im from chile, and i writting you to talk about particulary from this video. to have some answer, to left clear obviously. in fact, you got points with the bleeding using with bionol. but the use off that shimano XTR lever are for recreational use, because that handle you used is very light, and again i give you points for do this kind of video, for those don't know this kind of brakes. but for other riders, make this combination requir more than a a few bucks to buying this things. for other side, but for those riders who do enduro or Trail, and prefeer more brake power ... the Magura MT5 Caliper, and shimano ZEE Lever , Deore, SLX levers are the exact lever to use it. for who do Enduro and downhill, Magura MT7 with Shimano Saint Levers are the key, both are made to resist elevate presure. so much the brake caliper like the brake lever. other thing to have clear, i don't recomend the magura hose... personally i choose use Shimano hose, cause the shimano hose are more stronger in case off impact o fall. all of this using Magura Discs, Magura MDR-C or the MDR-P both for E-bikes. if someone want's to use MT7 and Deore XT to combine, must have the aluminum pump for taht lever, because the Deore XT lever filters oil, by pressing it, the preasure made in the brake chamber (i have that problem). but evans let me tell you that it is a great video, also you took weight off the bike, which makes it faster when going down the trails. and sorry, my english is not so fluent... google helped me LOL
@dougsrosen
@dougsrosen 2 жыл бұрын
You know you live somewhere too hot when Vegas in the summer is where you cool off.
@upgrade7865
@upgrade7865 2 жыл бұрын
Nice..I also mix my cheap zoom brake caliper with tektro lever and the result is amazing...more powerful stopping power..
@EvansMTBSaga
@EvansMTBSaga 2 жыл бұрын
Very cool bike hack! I didn't know about that
@karpatibence4136
@karpatibence4136 2 жыл бұрын
it might be just on me but i've blown up 2 xt brake levers on my set. I switched to zee levers and its working perfectly for half the price of the xt levers. Its just some personal experience
@RC-fp1tl
@RC-fp1tl 2 жыл бұрын
Might try this, thanks!
@maozedong3600
@maozedong3600 Жыл бұрын
I have shamino brakes and they are crazy good for me. I bike everywhere and when I go down a black hill when it’s super dry and sometimes wet and shamino brakes work crazy good if u have a downhill bike or if u bike downhill, cross country and every thing els I recommend these brakes if u live in a country where there are steep hils
@ThunderStruckMTB
@ThunderStruckMTB 2 жыл бұрын
Nice video. You actually like modulation and dislike mechanical servo advantage. I know what you were trying to say though.
@mrupholsteryman
@mrupholsteryman 2 жыл бұрын
Totally smoking the unsuspecting racer... haha!
@justgarethsphone9663
@justgarethsphone9663 9 ай бұрын
Those magura caliburs are beautiful
@XeseKaiPese
@XeseKaiPese Жыл бұрын
Shimano lever, magura caliper, trickstuff fluid, sram rotor! I like it!
@johnkarsden9809
@johnkarsden9809 2 жыл бұрын
This guy should have way more attention!
@cesarayala8665
@cesarayala8665 2 жыл бұрын
Finally someone who found the way to keep me watching an ad.
@EvansMTBSaga
@EvansMTBSaga 2 жыл бұрын
Haha glad I figured it out! I've tried a bunch of different ways
@fran.6496
@fran.6496 2 жыл бұрын
I used slx levers with mt 7 calipers and i love it. Only would recommend xt levers but slx is ok
@mac16a
@mac16a 2 жыл бұрын
why would you choose xt over slx?
@alexivkov1415
@alexivkov1415 2 жыл бұрын
as a fellow magura sponsor, i approve of this message.
@moey5574
@moey5574 2 жыл бұрын
hey Evan just wondering where did you get the tool use use to cut the brake housing and to push in the barbs?
@cycling-in-sofia
@cycling-in-sofia 2 жыл бұрын
For my Shigura I used brake levers Shimano Zee, Magura MT5-eStop calipers, special pads with KEVLAR and biggest Magura MDR-P rotors 220 front / 203 back. Reducing speed with KEVLAR pads is safer. The original pads also stop, but with them the chance of blocking the rear wheel is much higher.
@EvansMTBSaga
@EvansMTBSaga 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah I already want different pads! The stock ones make bad noises haha
@cycling-in-sofia
@cycling-in-sofia 2 жыл бұрын
@@EvansMTBSaga I'm using DBP-65E pads on my MT5-eStop calipers. For MT7 you may be need DBP-60E pads. And yes - with the new pads the noise also decreases.
@thiagovieira5249
@thiagovieira5249 4 ай бұрын
Great video Evans. I love the tool you use to push the inserts into the hose or to cut it. Do you have any link to it? Thanks Thiago.
@GhislainLeduc
@GhislainLeduc 4 ай бұрын
I’d like to know too
@theboulderproject
@theboulderproject 2 жыл бұрын
“Man this will give me some confidence” *proceeds to ride a small easy incline
@ninjazzrhythm400
@ninjazzrhythm400 2 жыл бұрын
I'm going to put sragura on my build bike. I like the modulation feel of sram lever and easy pad replacement of the magura caliper. I just dont like the magura's lack of serviceability to replace the caliper.
@tomasmolnar2890
@tomasmolnar2890 2 жыл бұрын
dont forget to replace the seals that play nice with mineral oil in the levers
@carlosnatividad6680
@carlosnatividad6680 2 жыл бұрын
shimano's engineers are rollin rn but somewhat disturbed by your pronunciation of calipers 😂hahaha
@NonLegitNation2
@NonLegitNation2 2 жыл бұрын
I had commented on it in one of your past videos and it kind of applies to this video. I finally figured out why people go with bigger rotors on the front. I had initially thought that would cause you to go over the handlebars, but for the first time ever i actually when down a steep hill using just my front brakes and they did absolutely nothing to slow me down, and just plain using only the front brakes shows that they definitely don't have as much stopping power as my rear brakes. So it looks like I'm probably going to go with a bigger front rotor now.
@trick1420
@trick1420 2 жыл бұрын
You did yourself a disservice by not just running the Magura MT7 master/levers. They're brilliant. You would have been perfectly happy with them.
@TheCerovec
@TheCerovec Жыл бұрын
I don't know where you buy parts but all the shops i buy from sell levers and calipers separately. It costs 320-350€ for two levers and calipers.
@zwingler
@zwingler 2 жыл бұрын
lol thats like when i was little and getting a mixed bag at the candy shop
@Daniel.104
@Daniel.104 2 жыл бұрын
Really enjoying your content I suggest you to make barspin mode and change orange fox stickers to blue
@Jacob99174
@Jacob99174 2 жыл бұрын
That AG1 sounds delicious!!!
@syndo7steil-ng71
@syndo7steil-ng71 2 жыл бұрын
On my Xtrada 6 I only kept the stock calipers and upgraded my levers and I can feel a very big difference (I can do endos with only 1 finger even with a 160mm rotor)
@mudkayak6305
@mudkayak6305 2 жыл бұрын
what are the stock calps and what did you upgrade levers?
@syndo7steil-ng71
@syndo7steil-ng71 2 жыл бұрын
@@mudkayak6305 i used stock calipers with upgraded levers on my xtrada 6 and work like a charm watch this video kzbin.info/www/bejne/qHyTqYKKoKeDo7M
@hammyh1165
@hammyh1165 2 жыл бұрын
Shiguras came about because so many folk were breaking Magura levers and new Shimano one's were cheaper and available. I believe a lot of the problems with levers are sorted now. I know folk that have been running them for years and love them .
@fetB
@fetB 9 ай бұрын
idk, they're still making them out of plastic, for the most part at least
@Montismtb
@Montismtb 2 жыл бұрын
The mt5 caliper is the same as the mt7 for the People that want to get shigura :)
@ivwshane
@ivwshane 2 жыл бұрын
As is the even cheaper mt-thirty.;)
@Montismtb
@Montismtb 2 жыл бұрын
@@ivwshane never heard of the Mt30 but an mt5 is around 79 euro in germany
@squareyesj7170
@squareyesj7170 2 жыл бұрын
The servo-wave and non-servowave are different. I get why you wanted the non servo version levers. Not sure whether you can get them in non-Xtr models though.
@martinjalaksa2816
@martinjalaksa2816 2 жыл бұрын
I am driving shigura for a season and they are the best. I used MT5 I bough for 90eur each, I didnt like the 2 finger levers so i changed them for shimano SLX brake levers a bought for ca 35each, Total Cost 250Eur , Shigura for maximum braking POWER
@andrewh7868
@andrewh7868 Жыл бұрын
Those hose covers look sweet. Keep them.
@mtbalandin9594
@mtbalandin9594 2 жыл бұрын
best price combo is the Shimano Zee levers with the MT5 Calipers. Zee is the same power as the saint and the MT 5 calipers are the same as the MT 7s. You can get a realy powerful set of brakes for a small price.
@AnghelFromInvrsLand
@AnghelFromInvrsLand Жыл бұрын
all the setoff the prev and setup the new ones, thank you sir for all the time you spent on this videos.
@RNicknackpaddywhack
@RNicknackpaddywhack Жыл бұрын
I like on-off for trail riding and Sram (high end) modulation for DH.
@dhicon45
@dhicon45 2 жыл бұрын
I am also running a ShiGura brakes on my bike after braking 2 Magura lever. Immediately I feel the braking power improved drastically.
@tysonscott862
@tysonscott862 2 жыл бұрын
i did this too, both my maruga levers broke in the first year. so i put deore xt levers on it felt great
@cjmpaja
@cjmpaja 2 жыл бұрын
I have a bike that uses a full magura MT5 brakeset. Once the levers break on my bike, I do plan on doing a shigura conversion. Wha is the difference between using shimano levers with servo wave vs using shimano levers without servo wave?
@BMH1965
@BMH1965 2 жыл бұрын
This is done frequently in Denmark. They are using the Shimano cables. Why? The internal diameter of the Shimano is smaller, and more suited to the smaller Shimano reservoir. Also means easier bleeding.
@meesas
@meesas 2 жыл бұрын
@EvansMTBSaga where did you buy that hose cutter? I can't find it online.
@gilberto_caldeira
@gilberto_caldeira 2 жыл бұрын
In portuguese, the name of the brake is ilarious! Looks like a 2 years old kid saying "hold on", and in our culture, wen someone is falling or climbing, we say "hold on". This is the best name fo a brake hahahahaha
@kevinhodgins9071
@kevinhodgins9071 2 жыл бұрын
Evan, you continue to kill it! The creative content and production quality 👌. Loved this video concept
@dionfullysus
@dionfullysus 2 жыл бұрын
I run a saint lever and calliper up the front and a saint lever and Magura mt5 calliper on the rear, the saint comes on harder with not much effort and the Shagura offers more control through the bite point to assist with front break when needed. I could ride saint on the back also but I quite enjoi the feeling of the setup and seems to hold more logic for me having a powerful brake up the front and one to assist on the rear, most people burn their brakes because they don't realise that the back brake is for assistance and your main power comes from the front.
@or-ian6973
@or-ian6973 7 ай бұрын
Could have just switched to a smaller rear rotor
@dionfullysus
@dionfullysus 7 ай бұрын
The rear rotor gives less power and heats up faster, I use 220mm Galfer rotors after swapping form Magura MDRP and I like them a bit more, the magura's were great but got loud after a season due to the rivets.@@or-ian6973
@mateo607
@mateo607 Жыл бұрын
does the shigura work with MT5 magura brakes and slx shimano levers?, bc I see everyone doing it with MT7 and XT or XTR levers
@michalmeskon.r.s.354
@michalmeskon.r.s.354 Ай бұрын
Dude you forgot one of the best must to have part with shigura and that is magura 203mm rotor. You cant imagine what a new life is it. Thats real shigura brake feel. And actualy xt is better lever than xtr (try it) thats a fact.
@bluemootang3239
@bluemootang3239 5 ай бұрын
Honestly i prefer to keep the brakes on all my wheeled things similar, there is no on/off for brakes in a car or motorcycle, gradually putting brake pressure is how brakes are supposed to work while being safe
@martinupchurch5360
@martinupchurch5360 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome video! You have me sold on the Magura., been using SLX Shimano but I am a big boy so some extra stopping power would be great. I have to ask as well, what do people do for mountain biking in Phoenix during the summer heat wave? I took up MTB in the fall so this is more first summer, and right now at 111 . . . that's just a hard pass for me.
@EvansMTBSaga
@EvansMTBSaga 2 жыл бұрын
Haha mainly just stay inside or go on road trips all summer
@povadventure5305
@povadventure5305 2 жыл бұрын
You have to go at sunrise to beat the heat. Thats what we do here in the summer in israel
@vladivanov7645
@vladivanov7645 2 жыл бұрын
I am a big boy too and was suffering from braking power and fading. it was a game-changing solution for me 220 mm Magura rotors. Highly recommend it.
Are $2000 mountain bike brakes THAT much better?
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