Eve Online - 6 Trillion ISK - The Jay Amazingness Heist Reaction

[@nathanthehappy180]

for anyone wondering 6 trillion isk at the moment is roughly 32 THOUSAND US dollars

[@emeukal7683]

He is high profile now tho, wont be able to just sell that isk.

[@TheRaptor700Rider]

@@emeukal7683 does creating alts not exist? Does transferring money/alts not exist? Do you think players can track in game money like the FBI tracks usd? Lmao gotta use your brain

[@brendonprophette8890]

19k USD through the highest $/isk CCP sales

[@SmallKittyPaw]

@@emeukal7683 why not? Just asset safety and move to jita

[@PingWhisper]

That's it? For years of investment... Seems like a massive waste of real life time. Most people make that in a few months.

[@SN1P3R230]

im glad he recorded this, you dont get to see this kind of heist being recorded

[@sowersass2]

exactly i heard people talking about no more clones in 1dq ina fleet days ago but i didnt even bother to ask what they were talking about till someone told me this last night, awesome to see.

[@BadDawg75]

0:18 if the those are all BPOs, then the estimated price is WAY off. The Sotiyo alone is 100B. 0:57 the hangar has 224 items in it with 1 selected. This is why it shows 5.4B. If you use that number times 224, it would be roughly 1.21T. 1:26 the hangar with the 5 titans shows 8B for the whole hangar. IF those are fitted, they're almost 200B each, so 1T+ for that hangar. That was a nasty theft. It could have been a lot worse IF he could have transferred the structures to another alliance. IE: Judgement Day for CO2.

[@Adventures_of_RW]

that's why I stay as a solo corp and in a npc station.

[@margen9328]

I get the stealing and the betrayal is part of Eve. But at that level ? I'm no goon but stealing that much from guys that trust you and with woom you been playing for over 10 years ? I find that behavior pretty pathetic. This guy is not only stealing from fellow officers, he is stealing from hundreds, thousands of players that worked for these ressources for god knows how long. Low human behavior in my eyes and I would not be in a corp that has him on board.

[@taiidaniblues7792]

Things like this were literally advertised on the original EVE retail box when it came out back in 2003. I believe corporate espionage on this level is also what took down the old "biggest alliance" in EVE called BoB. As a bystander I love this stuff. There is a reason compartmentalization and principal of least privilege exist in real corporations. Giving directors carte blanche to the bank is putting yourself at risk.

[@magnumopus8695]

welcome to eve

[@Thescrubshow]

he had to pay bills. :D

[@pauort3890]

Yes, band of brothers fell because of a betrayer who helped mittani@@taiidaniblues7792

[@sunixjester]

I get what you’re saying and I sympathize to a certain degree, but not completely. Eve advertises this type of gameplay and the in-game leadership plays a part in this type of problem.

[@OperationValhalla]

The number is much closer to 7.5 trillion. You have to value the thousands of pods destroyed in the total. If you want to get even more technical you can double the amount as Jay's best option is to sell the stolen items back to the Goon population; adding insult to injury. By the way, thanks Jay, cost me almost 50 billion in pods; well played Jay, well played.

[@Ronaldopopkings]

Destroyed isnt the same as stealing thu. Even if the common eve player seems to think they gain something by destroying something for someone else....

[@Ancient1981]

Its more than 8t for sure. The fittings of those caps, the prices in most stuff is buy orders, not by sell orders.

[@BoinkrNanis]

I do trade of eve and yeah, thr buy price is NOT the sell price and I guarantee that haul is way more than 10 trillion if he takes the time to sell it as you should. This is why I don't trust anyone with shit in eve.

[@thomaslupton2980]

In the world of Eve the salt must flow.

[@xxxslushiexxx4951]

It’s unfortunate, but on the corporations side they all stepped up to help everyone who lost jump clones. Goonwaffe may be bankrupt but the players in there are still afloat and playing so not all that bad. It’s going to suck for the guy who comes back after a 5 year break and realizes he has no clones though.

[@arwo1143]

He should have made a list of all the containers that contain “worth it” amounts of stuff Having to click on all containers to see if he wants to loot them and going to the next cost him a lot of time

[@pythonxz]

I concur with you. Pure EVE, just as a should be.

[@bumpyjohnson5181]

Thanks, I saw it but couldn't understand what the heck was going on. I wish he'd drop me a couple of Billion o7

[@redus2]

Pretty confused what I'm looking at. So, he was in Goonswarm Federation and had access to one, or more, Keepstar's hangars, stole all the ships and items. How many Keepstars did he steal from? How did he move stuff to Jita? Was he able to sell the capital ships in Jita?

[@MerchantIvoryfilms]

....was wondering what happen to my 6 trillion isk this morning >.>

[@thecrimsonwhisker]

Then he makes a new toon and joins goons =P

[@protic4]

The Anti-Judge.

[@p-40war-hawk71]

hahaha poor goonswarm you guy didn't see that coming , i bet they piss the wrong guys. bad for them and good for him steal 6 trillion 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@chrispelletier8654]

Atrum can cover this easily. The issue is , ton sof us loved Jay, stealing from alliance ok fine, you know eve, fucking over line members who sat with him, sometimes, because of him, for hours during battles, who lost faxes and other shit when his fac super got dropped, (told him it was bait) he's just stubborn and too much money, but the worst part here is, the actual love he lost from so many people he didn't have to fuck over. regular joes

[@alericc1889]

A game where THIEVES are looked on as skilled players....

[@stevenboughner7255]

Does anything happen if he gets caught? I don't know that's why I ask. If this is Cooperate Stealing.

[@dennisdeal3323]

As I poorly understand how EVE works. This guy has basically burned his bridges with this act. Should his Identity be known. He might have a harder time joining another Corporation. As who is going to trust a player that has robbed from his own corporation .as he went out the door. But as for it being against the game rules. I am have been told, no that there is nothing that he did that went against any of the rules in EVE.

[@Official.MasterLevi]

​@@dennisdeal3323lol he is already in ph

[@dennisdeal3323]

@@Official.MasterLevi Yeah, I saw that on youtube a couple of days ago.

[@sheogorath979]

@@dennisdeal3323 with the ammount of isk he stole he can easily buy himself a toon with a crapload of SP in the Character Bazaar

[@Kryp7iic]

Dude went out is the most eve way possible.

[@szkoclaw]

It's a heist if you join a corporation with an intention of stealing. If, like Jay, you're there for a decade and then go nuts, it's just being lame. And no, I didn't lose anything here.

[@FlyingSeaMan256]

Good.

[@CakeFine]

Jay is just a chubby lad from Devon, UK. Yes he stole stuff but its not like a planned heist. He'll probably RMT it and buy a house.

[@Razman23]

Goons live by one motto and one motto alone. "We are not here to ruin the game. We are here to ruin your game." And thanks Jay for all the fish!

[@Ludeo]

This wasn't a planned heist, this was just someone throwing a tantrum and shattering friendships over nothing. Something I'm told he's very prone to doing.

[@michalbow691]

Can someone explain how he get that stuff from null?

[@daryll4645]

asset safty

[@shaymcquaid]

Just because you can doesn't mean you should. Pretty sorry behavior. #EVEshit

[@sunixjester]

That wasn’t theft, that was rape. He raped a lot of Goons.

[@karadan100]

Lol good.

[@Happy-nc9zf]

They were gay for jay, that's prolly consent

[@Amathylar]

It sucks this can happen in EVE, as there is literally zero recourse. There is nothing the victim can do after and nothing that can be done to the offender. There is nothing you can do prevent it either. No amount of vetting can prevent it from happening a year or three years after you recruit someone. The mechanic is absurd.

[@Atrophes]

The world isn't fair. They didn't have to give him roles back immediately. They chose to. Imps have done FAR worse to folks in real life with Black Hand.

[@SN1P3R230]

this is a risk you have to take if you are big enough, cant manage one of the biggest alliances alone

[@MJNNP]

bro needed some attention i guess

[@Amathylar]

@@SN1P3R230 Yes I know but its an absurd risk, i mean your entire alliance stuffs can just be stolen with zero recourse. Its idiotic.

[@dennisdeal3323]

@@Amathylar To be honest in happens in other games. I play in a much smaller game than EVE.. A lot smaller. Where we have what is called Guilds. Same basic idea of players sharing an area for buffs and exchanging items, running quests together ect. A guild had its chests looted by someone. There was nothing anyone could do about getting back the stuff the player had looted. It is the unfortunate side of gaming.

[@AlexSKS]

Latency has nothing to do with unlocking large amounts of items

[@BogDustForBreakfast]

you missed the point . latency helps select and remove the items quicker .

[@Amazing_Jay]

It was just a misclick

[@8vI]

God show me the way because the Devil's tryna break me down

[@kenny8465]

Miss input miss input him self to 8 trillion isk

[@Happy-nc9zf]

Fckin legend, next time transfer faction fort to horde though

[@JDog_Unchained]

Legend

[@Agent_Clark]

Miss clicked your way into retirement 😂

[@0cky]

The estimates at the bottom of the screen on a lot of what he took is very wrong. Those estimates are based on market data and for some things like capital ships where there are none on the market, it will value items at scam buy order prices which can be way off.

[@alexlaw1892]

Either way I think it's safe to say he took a lot of fucking ISk from Goons.

[@0cky]

@@alexlaw1892 Oh yeah for sure its a lot. Just pointing out that its likely worse than it looks at first glance. Simple example at 1:26, those 44 selected items (including the 5 titans) are not worth 7b xD

[@whitewolfIOM]

The recruitment team needed to have screened this guy alot more.

[@alexlaw1892]

He was a director and a trusted inner circle member for like a decade.. Don't think they could have done anything else 😂

[@whitewolfIOM]

@@alexlaw1892 guy definitely put the time in for this . Top class spy !

[@MrSilenxe]

@@whitewolfIOM def not a spy tho. Just woke up one day and decided to misbehave

[@FJoeBrainDeadBiden]

@@whitewolfIOM He wasn't a spy.

[@jannloneke8366]

@@whitewolfIOM Not a spy, just greed. He RMTed his own assets and came back to get more.

[@dexmark5]

that is insaine how he can make that much

[@Something.Something]

Traitors are hated even by those whom they prefer

[@nah891]

holy fuck

[@101spacecase]

a theft still a theft they just got more protection via game

[@johnord684]

The guys a toss pot

[@kotkot5452]

the price of the fit is not shown in the hangar

[@sunsetfarming6153]

holy shit that was awesome. I'm all for this, it happens in the real corporate world so its cool its happening in eve too.

[@papiezguwniak]

I'm an eve noob. Can someone explain why he did it?

[@1969bones69]

He's a Democrat. That's why.

[@BerraLJ]

Not sure he has given a reason for it.

[@co59720]

$50,000 USD after sale This is technically referred to as corporate espionage 100% LEGAL IN EVERYWAY

[@quauhtliauva1705]

Holy Shit!

[@PlayerSalt]

its pretty much 10-12 mintues of looting you can see the server shutdown alert near the start and he is basically done a few min before the restart when he pulls the core , i dont think any 3rd party tools were used , he would also have to be a complete idiot to publish the video if he was using 3rd party tools , what amuses me is i dont know basically anything he loots thats not a ship lol subcap life

[@karni60]

It's a pretty weak way of making a foot print.