EVE Online Lore | The Amarr Empire - Featuring Ashterothi

[@lukson981]

Once great empire now suffers under its own pressure . Amarr needs to overhaul and upgrade their ships (CCP Buff amarr for the love of god)

[@jamegumb7298]

Nerf Abaddon cap.

[@trophywolfe]

@@jamegumb7298 heresy

[@mystikast]

@@jamegumb7298 abaddon NEEDs cap !! 8 guns run the cap out in no time

[@lorentzcoffin4957]

Praised be the lord our God, it has come, the golden hour (and a half)!

[@caseylp7121]

I started listening and I couldn't stop. No regrets.

[@oddish2253]

Amarr is a religion of peace.

[@evanray8413]

@@oddish2253 Amarr are right about Minmatar? :P

[@joy_gantic]

You gotta do all the pirate factions and Concord bro you just gotta

[@Jintaan]

No promises. Gotta do the Minmatar first!

[@maniacf150]

May the Holy Light of the One True Amarrian God Shine on us ALL!!

[@pradaeternal1552]

The best empire and survival of the fittest is not fair especially in a cosmic universe hard decisions have to be made but domination leads to order they created an empire that is beautiful

[@bilalwaheed1125]

I feel that the Ammar empire takes some inspiration from the Islamic empires of the middle ages. They both share The emperor being seen as the spiritual as well as political leader An economy based on slavery Belief in the one true God The designs on the empires ships resemble the arabesque art on the walls of mosques. I would be interested to see what you a think

[@dik56]

I never seen it like that but now that you say it, it makes sense

[@shezyam460]

i wouldn't say that they were based on slavery the same level that the amarr are, but yeah

[@bilalwaheed1125]

@@shezyam460 yeah I was referring to the general vibe.

[@Ahmed_M7]

Yeah, seems like they took some inspiration from the Islamic empires, as well as the Catholic Church.

[@shaq3675]

Well i do believe it's normal to misinterpret both Islam as Amarr BUT after looking further turned out it's much closer to classic Catholic than Islam and here's why (all quoted and derived from the official lore) *Feudal system cities (in countries Islam ever ruled there was never a feudal system, until the fall of the khilaphat) *Emperor speaks FOR God (a deity emperor , emperor not a prophet nor a messenger) *Emperor can contradict parts of scripts (Judaism all over it, NEVER Islam as there is a promise from God to preserve the script of Quran from alteration till the end of time) *Emperor only interfere with what concerns the entire nation while 5 families rule under him (Khaliphat on the other hand, quoting from Islamic history, "if a mule or a donkey should fall because the roads are not level, Omar (khaliphat) will be questioned before God on the Day of Judgment as to why he did not repair the roads for these animals.” This is a famous saying. *Amarr have apostles , Muslims only have one messenger (prophet) with normal people as followers (companions of the prophet) and they are limited to what the prophet teaches them (no alleged connection to God) *Amarr have claimed superiority for true Amarrians over the other new followers and they gave them the right to enslave commoners and tax them accordingly while even having the right to establish breeding facility . while in Islam all are equals new or old to Islam and all have the same rights and one never allowed to enslave people o have sexual rights to subjects lol . (many happened in Africa by Christians' though) *Amarr have heirs from high end noble families while in Islam the noble system isn't a thing , an heir is only who a Consultative Assembly elects . while the word heir in Islam means the ones that are entitled to your inheritance when you pass. *Amarr have separate heirs and holders (sub rulers) taxation system , while in islamic rule there was only taxation for those who wish to live under the islamic protection without accepting islam and wish to live freely and benefit of all the newly founded civilization services (basically similar to today's tax but to encourage people to accept islam they exempted Muslims from it) *Public trials , separate laws per domain , which is never the case in Islam (all are ruled by the same law) *Holder's class are Byzantine hierarchy , stated literally by the lore somewhere. in which make them Christians rather Muslims *Eve Echoes have no avatar whatsoever to any character of a color in Amarr selection page (all white) for some reason which is not the case in the islamic world (are of all races and colors) *Eve echoes have one mission states literally that the divine trials are held at the Church (Muslims don't have church) *Lore states that the Amarr's religion was originated from a "Unified Catholic Church" which is again a Christian related place not Islamic. *In Islam it is not allowed to have a female in authority, never were ruled by female figure while Amarr did (empress) * In Islam they aren't allowed to use Gold on their vehicles , weapons and homes (i know some do) but generally gold is only an asset and an accessories for females and females only. *Muslims don't think they are the chosen ones and original Muslims do not claim superiority over the new followers (Judaism all over it!) *Muslims haven't enslaved others they ruled , they insured that everyone is equal under the rule of islam on one region and people are let to live freely doing what they used to do before the conquest. *Lastly now think about Catholics and see the similarities when it comes to (Chosen ones, true amarr are superior to others , they have immense amount of gold collected by raids and conquests , ruled by a queen , at ages ruled by feudal system , noble lords above commoners , , , etc) the way i see it , it is much more likely to be Catholic rather Muslim , and i am welling to discuss it further anytime.

[@N3trunner_]

THANK YOU, i wanted to learn more about my empire

[@lordvanazir1007]

1:10:50 Correction P.I.E is the longest continual Corporation in existence

[@MegaSpurv]

If only this was a podcast feed *cough* do it *cough*

[@marcustulliuscicero5443]

Two things I think are worth pointing out: 1. "Holders" are actually not based on power, but on bloodline (which is in turn absed on power 3 millenia ago). A holder whose domain has been reduced to a single small habitation dome in a small, long mined-out asteroid field does not hold a whole lot of power, but can own slaves just like a holder who owns an entire constellation can. And then of course the domains of major holders are in turn partially granted to lesser holders. The internal borders of the Amarr Empire are probably all sorts of gross as well after 3 millenia of inheritance going on. 2. Slavery is actually extremely diverse, and much more than the temperament of the holder a slave's role has much greater influence on their lot in live. A household slave of an ultra-conservative holder has a better life than a liberal holder's mining slave.

[@seand.g423]

So... it's basically a mix of The Vatican and Bajor, with the "Holders" acting more like Vedeks?

[@enomisitnoc3653]

As a warhammer 40k fan i was bound to this faction from the beginning. The Prophecy is by far my favourite ship the Apocalypse is great as well to see but it so out of my budget :D

[@swirlathon2k]

Returned to eve recently and it seems the prices on apoc have gone up loads! I remember them being cheap.

[@enomisitnoc3653]

@@swirlathon2k yes now they are too expensively for the go BUT if you take a navy drake and you fit the thing well the money you can make is absurd. DED Sites and Guristas combat sites are good now you can make 4/8/10 millions per site and drop things that are worth 70 m some times ( go to low sec or null sec)

[@swirlathon2k]

@@enomisitnoc3653 The drake navy is really good, I agree. Might have to get one again 🙂. If you want to go with battle ships forget the amarr stuff they are all truly terrible. Jumped back into my old apoc navyand geddon navy and wow they suck haha. The apocalypse navy can sorta get through l4 missions. However the Minmatar Typhoon is better in every possible way. The Typhoon can have more range, cap stable whilst repping, selectable damage types, faster, more agile, more resistant to neuts and tracking disruption. All while being cheaper to buy and fit.

[@shaq3675]

​@swirlathon2k apoc is the most used marauder for pve and it's op for what it's being used for

[@TheCyniko]

thanks for putting together your lore series. Definitely subbed for this and have been listening while mining all day

[@blooddixmond]

They tried to scatter the tribes! But we now stand, together, THE SEVEN TRIBES OF MATAR WILL NEVER BE SLAVES.

[@sebathadah1559]

the earliest lore of the Amarr was that they were a schismatic group of Catholics lead thru the EVE wormhole by a self-proclaimed prophet.

[@ilililililili563]

amarr and gallente first meeting must be the funniest shit i ever heard in eve lore xD

[@hungryowl1559]

Well I guess I'll be binging your lore series. Thanks! o7 Also I RPed Amarr too well back in the day. Gallente -7.6 Minmatar -5.53

[@andreacapuano585]

aaaaaah my favorite video talking about my not favorite empire

[@midas15]

O hate the fact that they use people as slaves. But I like the golden fleet. Awesome video!!

[@da_bes]

One and a half hour of l o a r

[@misterjoshua5720]

Oh shirt. OH SHIT the Triglavians are mining our stars for Isogen-5

[@Apollo-tj1vm]

24:23 just another day under the capital umbrella

[@Apollo-tj1vm]

47:00 that sounds like a votron projector that is somehow fitted on an abaddon..

[@mattstorm360]

The votron projector's description states "Originally developed by the Upwell Consortium for use on Keepstar Citadels" IE.The Standup Arcing Vorton Projector. Which fires exactly like the abaddon's weapon. That weapon was a "Terran superweapon". The Terran are the hypothetical colonizers of New Eden who came from the EVE gate. I believe the weapon its self was later destroyed in the seyllin incident which resulted in wormholes appearing across New Eden. So, yes. She did.

[@mar16cris]

some little details left of in the length of the video: -the Ealur weren't forcefully enslaved by the Amarrians once they were discovered, they were actually a very docile people according to the records with only one casualty at the time of meeting each other. for the most part the Ealur lived a very tranquil life without any drive to advance into a higher civilization so they basically accepted being put into servitude without struggling as it still was pretty much a seemingly good deal for them. in Amarrian eyes the Ealur are basically like a dog, they wont bite the hand that feeds them because they are so domesticated they wouldnt probably do something on their own if left alone, there's no reason or drive for them to revolt and become independent like the Minmatar(or in a less problematic way, the Ni'kunni). -the Ni'kunni were a case similar to the Caldari, their planet was partially terraformed at the time but the other way around compared to Caldari Prime (it was a hot planet similr to Kharak from the Homeworld franchise, with scorching deserts covering most of the surface and people living cramped around the poles) and they were in the process of industrial revolution (with an emphasis on Brass rather than Steel due to the poor metal composition of their planet). the Ni'kunni had a culture similar to Amarr with "Water Barons" taking control of the population due to holding the most sought after resource in the whole planet. the whole enslavement of the Ni'kunni was actually triggered by the water barons wanting to exhert their opinion and views over the Amarrian envoys and putting their whole people at risk just to mantain their power. despite this downside the Ni'kunni people served their role as slaves in a very formal and obedient way and perhaps this is one of the mayor causes of why they were emancipated and made into free citizens of the empire, it also helps that the Minmatar were more troublesome so the Ni'kunni gained more prestige by playing it smart and let the slavers give them their freedom by focusing into supressing the other group further. -Khanid stole one of the Iapetan class Titans from the hands of the Royal Navy as part of his secession from the empire. this is one of the many factors of why they were able to keep the imperial forces from invading and subduing the region, they could run on equal foot with the Amarr if having to. in addition to this the Khanid Kingdom had developed really good relations with the Caldari in order to get a technological advantage over their adversaries (thus Khanid ships and faction modules are focused around missiles, albeit with a particular interest in short range stuff like Rockets, HAMs, Torpedoes, etc.. instead of the long range focus of the Caldari missile platforms). -in general terms the Amarr Empire is the oldest and most advanced of the modern empires but their focus on tradition and doctrine had let their technological advantage to stagnate while the rest of the cluster has catched up with them (and perhaps surpass, as its the case of Caldari). the almighty Golden Fleet was legendary back then but nowadays the armies found in the other empires are on equal ground or better than them in the battlefield. one of the sources of why we have gotten stuff like FAXes or new lines of Destroyers, Logistic ships and so one has been because the Amarrian Navy forces have revised their fleet doctrines and strategies and have put a need to create new stuff as a response to their lack of variety (so they are usually the first race to develop a new ship to that particular role while the other empires follow the trend later on to mantain the balance of power)

[@zjoe555]

YEAH AMARR VICTOR

[@mallenkennelsuk5854]

proud to be Amarr

[@Journeyman107]

Any other lore channel or video recommendations? These guys seem to be the only ones to have really done it and I’m surprised it’s taken so long for someone to

[@KarlRosner]

Yay lazers!

[@tcxnt5442]

Amarr is the space Ottoman, having a slavery system based on its religion

[@marcustulliuscicero5443]

Space Spain, actually

[@tcxnt5442]

@@marcustulliuscicero5443 Yeah, you are right

[@dik56]

@@tcxnt5442 *just human, actually*

[@Ghorum]

Love the ships, hate the people.

[@Slesh1989]

Love the ships, love the people.

[@SmallFries01]

@Ghorum That's Amarrophobic.

[@kronoscamron7412]

HEY, what do you have against intergalactic slavery?

[@snowylynx36]

You discriminating against my religion bruv?

[@cagitiruse-x7203]

Basically the Roman Empire

[@CShaners]

oh imma watch this when i get the chance

[@thbran7417]

can you do a lore vidio about the "Behemoth" also called "iapetan" Titans

[@williamgordon]

I was present at the assasination of jamyll Sarum.

[@reggiemaron6310]

good job mates!

[@vaporiiz]

Interesting stuff! Subbed

[@KevinMichaelPrier]

Where do capsuleers fit in the hierarchy?

[@herbertpocket8855]

Disco party!

[@Blackcity940]

Japan Emperor SAMURAI

[@tsunami729]

AMARR VICTOR!!!

[@ronmiller5284]

Jinn plz do an episode on concord!

[@jo1italianstyle]

What's the relationship with the Caldari tho? Why are they allies?

[@Apollo-tj1vm]

I think it's because Gallente helped the Minmatars, and it's kind of a "The friend of my enemy is my enemy, the enemy of my enemy is my friend" situation which pushed them to be allies with caldari

[@japreet_kah]

Space elves.

[@Mic_Glow]

JAMYL IS ALIVE HERETICS Xp

[@matyaskovacs9465]

You mentioned that you were at one of the amarr major lore events. How did you get any notice of these lore events??? How can someone get info about these events?

[@temporalsingularity4264]

Keep an eye on eve news.

[@Feyriari]

One thing I'm a little confused by in this video and might just be that's just how it is but is Amarr the name of; Their faction, Planet and Island on the planet? Or was their just some miss naming happening here? Just seems a bi creatively lacking to say, Hello we are the Amarr from the planet of Amarr on the Island of Amarr. Lol

[@blanca-borb]

They were prob just uncreative

[@FutureAIDev2015]

I have a hypothesis. What, if anything, does the god that the Amarr worship have to do with today's Christian God?

[@joshuaschmidt4161]

Little to nothing

[@King-mj2bn]

Literally never once have I ever heard that Native Americans referring to the coming of the White Man as akin to the coming of a god lol wtf has bro been smoking

[@sunnyp6982]

anyone here from lud?

[@Jintaan]

Lol, I saw that too - I'm mostly inactive these days, but I guess I pleased the algorithm!

[@ostrovnyklinok6165]

Really looks like Islam rising history...

[@The_Real_Maxajax]

My mind instantly jumped to college debt slavery when modern American slavery was mentioned. Silly brain.

[@MrCoolidgeYo]

Jin'taan, Could you do an episode on the economy of eve in relation to asset safety? I personally think that doing away with asset safety everywhere except HS would greatly benefit Eve Online. It would allow for that real RTS destruction of strategic locations and assets. I believe it would entice war especially when defending strategic assets like production facilities and storage locations. This would also encourage the people who have assets in these locations help defend their assets. Even in HS we can limit asset safety to items that an alpha can use. This I think will balance Risk VS reward across New Eden. Spying would become a more integral part of the game aswell. Locating these assets and tracking pilot movements could become a good business. At the same time counter intelligence will become more necessary then ever before. It would allow for the devs goal of coalition leaders and alliance leaders to have the feeling of control with out actually having complete control. I would love to hear your thoughts on this subject. I think this would greatly benefit Eve and allow it to go on forever. All of us eve lovers want our little sandbox to stand the test of time.

[@MrCoolidgeYo]

Maybe we can do a discussion on talking in stations.

[@Jintaan]

I already have given my opinion on this as a part of my video “What’s Wrong With Citadels”

[@MrCoolidgeYo]

@@Jintaan thank you

[@mindsprawl]

Ban cloaky campers who afk on multiple accounts in multiple systems.

[@RifterBlade]

Ah the Amarr... the ultimate proof religion and politics mix poorly (Plays Minmatar :) ) -- thanks for the history though, at least I know they mess over their own as well.

[@kronoscamron7412]

we have golden ships brah... don't fuck with us

[@glennv3176]

Silence heathen. YOU WILL BE RECLAIMED

[@RifterBlade]

@@glennv3176 It has been tried. Still flying free.

[@sevatar2777]

@@RifterBlade all in good time

[@Basspounder5]

Chamberlain Karsoth, was the guy leading Amarr when the Eldar fleet attacked. His role was supposed to be that of a steward, to watch over the empire until a new royal leader could come out. Oh and before i forget, since this ties in with the Elders/Amarr, it was about 3 titans. 2 of them when to Amarr, each one having different objectives with their taskforces. the 3rd went to Yulai. its taskforce went in first, then the titan came in after.

[@zeehero7280]

The eldar fleet? foul xenos! 🤣