What's It Like Returning To EVE Online After A Decade!

[@waffleswafflson3076]

I came back recently and evidently there is a whole line of mining ships now. I looked like a fool in my little destroyer ready to jet can mine

[@Groza_Dallocort]

Yeah the Venture is a better mining ship then a destroyer, 5000m3 orehold to start with on the Venture

[@Drew566]

Jet can mining is a violation of the New Halaima code of conduct. Please purchase a permit when operating in James 315 territory.

[@umadbroimatroll7918]

​@@Drew566 the king is dead, long live the queen!

[@Drew566]

Eve is dead. Praise James 315.

[@AuntJoey]

@@Groza_Dallocort that's why he's jet can mining homie.

[@cyanthelightestbluegaminga646]

i wanna play a game not an obligation. My brother in christ YOU installed EvE

[@bucklinfondue]

Haha yeah, but it's kind of a different obligation. Kinda.

[@williamjones8775]

We use to joke that EVE was reality and our jobs were the dream world.

[@williammarshall8265]

Eve today allows you to not play every day. Much easier to make money. Much easier to be a casual player and still have fun.

[@oijgg3p]

@@williammarshall8265 Can you elaborate on that for a new player?

[@honeybadger9425]

@@oijgg3pBasically do industry buy blueprints and set planets up making stuff because a lot of that is passive income and just takes a few clicks and you can go at own pace. EVE only really becomes time consuming when you take on responsibility and risks from or with others so just don’t put yourself in that position.

[@senstara2862]

I don't think I have ever completed the daily air goal once since it got added, the mix of things you need to do to get the 10k SP is too in the way for what I like to do. So I just ignore it, it is however 3.4mil worth of SP a year if you did manage to do it every day. So it is a big thing for newer players.

[@MrMejIT]

Yep. Used to be kill a few ships for the sp. I ignore it too. Too time consuming.

[@matthiasschafer9023]

Finally somebody playing the game from the beginning as Amarr, my favorite faction back when I played EVE about 8 years ago. Don't see a lot of players doing that - almost everyone starts as Caldari. A Thumbs up for that alone. Would also be interested in a follow up video or maybe even a series of videos to see how you manage the EVE life nowaday. I might even consider starting new as an alpha again.

[@jerrybarnette5148]

I was born Caldari but I identify as Minmatar

[@ShaighJosephson]

It didn't change for the better especially after Pearl Abyss bought it from CCP and started their monetization agenda... 💥

[@michaelf7093]

I'm new to Eve. 6 weeks in, still alpha. You're giving me a lot of insight.

[@bucklinfondue]

Hopefully it's not bad. How are you finding the game so far?

[@michaelf7093]

@@bucklinfondue pretty fun!

[@MnemonicHack]

As someone who's played the game for much, much longer than I should have, my advice to you is to find a good group of friends. Faction Warfare is a great place for that, but really anywhere you can find a good corp is good enough. Playing solo can be pretty boring.

[@michaelf7093]

@@MnemonicHack Yes, I'm working on that, too. I joined Eve-Uni, and am startig to make friends there.

[@ThatGaijinFella]

I just got back into it too after a decade or so away...my once powerful Abbadon/Abaggadon (?) is now like a flying museum piece. I wouldn't even think of getting into a PVP battle with it now!

[@mikeemmons1079]

I have been out since 2011. How does a semi-pimped Tengu rate these days?

[@bucklinfondue]

I looked in on my old characters asset page. Geez, I have some pretty random stuff everywhere.

[@mikeemmons1079]

@@bucklinfondue I spent a week once, going through far flung stations in hi sec, and just gathering crap to dispose of. Was like 300 million. My list looked a lot cleaner. But it meant all that stuff I left in Querilous found it easier to mock me.

[@graythegray]

An updated fit and your Abbadon would be fine for pvp

[@matthewrussell8590]

Like battlestar galactica

[@TheEVEInspiration]

Well, I am done, gave all accounts away a decade ago, lol. So I finally WON the game!

[@LeftJoystick]

Sounds like what I did with RuneScape 3 back in the 2012/2013ish days.

[@RomanianReaver]

Time for me to be evil: You can set up a character, train it up until the point injectors become an option and steroid tf out of your brains.

[@oijgg3p]

How exactly did you "WON" the game ? Do you feel like a winner ?

[@Russell0369]

Hooray!

[@klarnorbert]

He won by not playing this trash.

[@ivangutowski]

Returned from iceland today, saw this video and getting so nostlagic... Just downloading it :)

[@Jake-yf3gv]

Great video, I played back in 2005 - 2009, then rejoined with a new character 2 years ago, took a year off (new little family member had just joined the house) and got back in fairly recently. I will say, the daily challenges are not shoved in your face at all like other f2p games, you actually have to purposefully look for them, and as someone who plays just a bit, the rewards are paltry. I don't even pay attention to it. Once every week or two I check my rewards page and see if I just passively did some tasks and claim the free money which pays for some ammo basically. The expert systems I never paid attention to because I kinda already knew where I was going to spend my SP, but good points as a new account. I don't even know if you can get expert systems on the market or in game, I don't think so.... if you can then I have no problem, if you can't then this is a decent grievance and a critique I will share. Glad you returned. Hope you stay, I'm really enjoying my return! Did some trading for a bit to stockpile a bunch of isk, did some solo stealth bomber hits in null, and now joined up in FW. Lots to do, just don't join the Galmil and I won't have to kill you :)

[@Zetverse]

Its not really an obligation, I keep missing weeks or days of eve play and dont feel the fomo, maybe for new players it can be but it doesnt affect me and certainly many others. I even forget at times this daily reward thing exists until I get a notifcation.

[@bucklinfondue]

It was what I noticed first. But I'll probably end up ignoring it.

[@jeepsblackpowderandlights4305]

naa, i logged back in today after being away for 6 years, i played in 2006 and onward quitting for a few years in between... once i checked the market it turned me off completetly from wanting to play again after logging in today... battleships are now 300-500m... wtf.. they used to be 40-100m, yet mineral prices are the same ??? thats retarded.. so mining seems useless now.. But if i say that youll have trolls saying,, oh you need to multibox 5 accounts and mining is fine... Dude i shouldnt have to multibox 5 accounts.. or mine ina group to make decent ISK.. Back in the day all i needed was 1 other account to haul ore or mine with me.. and now i need even more accounts ?? Na the prices of ore being the same but ships costing 10x more.. whats the point now ?? plex is also like 3b for 30 days... the f.. it used to be like 300-500m.. now its 3b.... so you gatta spend even MORE time farming to just pay to play the game to mine more and to pay to play the game to mine more... do you see the repetitive pointless nature of that.... Oh well just spend money you say ? Yea $20 now.. no thanks.. I also learned that carriers are pretty much 100% useless now... plus skill injections ?? So i spent YEARS to get to 40m sp... and now people can just pay to play to get more sp than me. Im also near 40 years now.. not 20... so to play this EVEN more time consuming game is redicuous. I also learned they changed safe routes in empire .. so if i want to go from say Jita to Amarr there are 4 un policed systems now i gatta go through... so now i see 0 point in flying freighters moving around ships and items to re-sell and make a profit in diff regions... at least my fenrir is worth 3b now.. i paid like 800m for it 6 years ago.. The 7b isk i have which took me months to get also seems useless... i have like 5 battleships in my inventory i was going to sell for a profit back then... at least i can make a GIANT profit now.. i paid like 80m for them.. and theyre worth about 380m now. The games market is absolutely bogus... i would be totally afraid to fly anything now bigger than a cruiser with these stupid prices.. I have 7b isk on me and i felt rich back then... i have about 12b in assets total.. and i should feel set... but i feel like thats nothing now.. 2 battleships and bam 1 billion almost.. rediculous. This game is BS.. and if you need to have 5+ other alts to even make a profit and play anymore.. then i can tell you those 19k ppl logged on i bet the real number is only a couple thousand.. i bet all the systems in the game most are empty now.. The carrier thing being useless really pisses me off, i have so many millions of sp invested in that and now there is 0 point in having them i noticed

[@McShag420]

It's way easier to make money ratting, mission running, etc now.

[@singaporeghostclub]

I started the game in 2006 (I still have the CD that comes with the game back then), and I must say I am grateful to EVE University for being such a great place to learn the game via hand-holding.

[@Rosechuchan]

AIR Daily Goals are reward for what you would normally be doing; and will quickly lose relevance for you. They reward next to nothing for an advanced player and are meant to encourage engagement with the game. You should not be viewing them as an expected part of gameplay. You also dont need to spend any time to get the 10k skill points. Just manufacture an item and run a single mission; things you are already going to be doing.

[@ShaighJosephson]

I quit the game about 5-6 years ago when they screwed over the markets and player investments out of greed, deliberately cut off the hub trade routes to hurt players involved in high sec trade, and started nerfing ships like the Orca so solo players had little to no defense against being ganked... Their manipulation of game against solo players and trying to force them into corps got me totally POed so I quit... Pearl Abbyss and CCP are unbelievably stupid for destroying new player retention with their BS...and the amount of revanue they have been loosing from it is staggering... 😮

[@TorynGent]

10:23 With the Equinox Expansion they are moving to a quasi monthly reward track. That is fueled by daily goals but from my understanding you don't need to do the dailies every day to get the bigger monthly rewards. This is also ment to replace daily login rewards so we'll have to see how it plays out.

[@NimbusTheCloud]

I started playing last autumn and I swear I had no idea about the dailys until today. Haven't cared about them so far don't think ill start careing about them now.

[@lllNiaNlll]

Those daily login challenges are not something that focus should be put on. Many of them seem like they can be completed just through the course of 'daily life' depending on how you play the game. I stopped playing about two years ago after playing since '09, but I never really paid too much attention to the login bonuses. I can't remember if the challenges were even implemented at that point. But, my point with this is that I never felt like I was at a disadvantage, or missing out by not acquiring these 'gifts'. Maybe that's because I come from a time preceding any sort of assistance, though. I had grown used to waiting long periods of time for skills, many of the higher tier ones take upwards of 1.5 mil SP, where 10k just doesn't make that much of a difference. For newer players I can see the value, but I would still not focus too heavily on going out of your way to do them. The only things outside of 'null life' - (Winterco!) - I focused on were the timed events, because those were where the good stuff was usually found. Lately I have been thinking about coming back and giving it another go, I had some amazing times over the years with some really cool people.

[@FactionalSnow85-EL3]

Please do Consider making a follow up video of somekind 😃. Your Commentary are great, pacing of the video are great, and i overall enjoyed every moment in the video ! (some great and solid points too) . Really interested on what your perspective on other aspect of Eve after 10 years of break o7

[@ScrappyDo__]

Agree with them… continue plz 👍🏻

[@bucklinfondue]

Thanks! That means a lot. I will be trying to discover everything in game and not looking at outside sources.

[@Jim-tv2tk]

It took me years to get my soul back from eve. Not giving it back to them. I do miss playing now and then, but no way i handle the hours required to really get ahead.

[@Zemtex47]

Welcome back from your extended break capsuleer. Many things have changed. I came back last year after 8 year break.

[@venum667]

i am in the same boat, about a month ago i hopped back into eve and was amazed at the changes

[@shalalameowmeow3601]

trying to return again I always find the hardest part for me when returning is finding that really good group that makes me want to log in and say hello every day. and deciding to join a group and committing to doing that.

[@fierceapes]

I went 9 years forgetting about the R&D agents running all along. got around 200,000 RP per 5x agents. cashed out all the datacores for 1.8b isk. easy money

[@aldodelarosa]

I guess one of my characters is 9+ years. One of the things I struggle with to stay playing for more than a few weeks is I haven't found an org or community for "new" players.

[@fibthejib]

try Eve University they focus on teaching new players about the game

[@acekokuren]

I am going to come at the Dailies from a slightly different perspective. My character is 2 weeks old tomorrow, and I think the daily rewards for a new player are nice, but ultimately it's about giving new players a direction. I like them for giving me something to do, and I don't have to do anything to strenuous to achieve them. It lets new players like me try different things. It gets you to do a bit of everything, (assuming you complete *all* the daily goals), but you just need to do the 2 to get the free 10k SP every day, so ultimately, it's a good thing for new players, to get them to try different things, and ultimately decide what they enjoy :)

[@kriddius]

I just got back into Eve last week. Instead of jumping in head first I started an entirely new character to re-learn the game from scratch and I'm loving it so far. Not sure if I'll go omega or not, or if I'll ever revive my old main account but for now it's a lot of fun. The daily stuff mostly doesn't interest me and I've never fallen for that trap. I play the way I want regardless of what may be on offer to do X activity so I'm having a blast

[@jacksnow2401]

You just perfectly described what I feel is the reason some people are getting bored of games. "I want to play a game, not an obligation."

[@williamjones8775]

I started in EVE during beta, went to boot camp and came back to the game once my initial training was completed and I was settled at my first permanent station. In beta I played the Mimatar, but I liked the drone boats of the Gallente and the lasers the Amarr used. I pretty much played the Gallente as my industrialist and my Amarr as a fighter type. A few years go by and I ended up getting deployed, when I come back my Alliance had lost a war that was getting started when I left. We transferred to another Alliance. I couldn't get my feet under me any longer and just never continued. I recently went back and couldn't fly any of my ships, 3/4 of my skills were not available. The new player capped out it's skills 5 million SP before running into problems and the way they have the experience setup it's not that long before you run into that. It's wild how fast you can train now, as a free character.

[@bucklinfondue]

I heard back in early Eve you couldn't even que up skills. You had to set alarms to make sure you were always training.

[@williamjones8775]

@@bucklinfondue Correct. I was on mid crew, I worked 11 pm to 7 am I would set my skills to end when I knew I could hit the barracks and change my skill and get back to the shop before anyone noticed. It got rough if I didn't have a skill that was long enough to benefit this, but after a month your ship and weapons skills or harvesting started getting days of training. Downtimes everyone set their long skills because they could break the game.

[@Taz6688]

@@bucklinfondue One thing back then, you could set a high rank skill say rank 5 and set it to train, drop sub and come back to it fully trained, datacores continued to stack up and orders still sold, take a break and return or play a different account, when you re-subbed everything sold and the skill was trained, gametime codes were much cheaper and lasted longer 90 day codes, escrow was full of scams, and you had to buy bookmarks to insta gate jump, if you didn't have them that 15km to the gate was hell.

[@Jake-yf3gv]

​@@bucklinfondue this is true, and worse yet you actually had to train "Learning" skills which gave you a bonus to core attributes first. It was basically idiotic not to train them as your first thing so it was like 2 months after creating a new character in which you were still with all your starter skills because you were busy training learning skills. It's quite nice they got rid of that. I left shortly after they first introduced T3 cruisers. Firstly they were insanely expensive to buy, and secondly if you died in one a random Subsystems skill would be knocked down a level.... crazy times. Oh yeah, and needing to upgrade your clone was a thing. If you didn't and you died you lost a shit ton of skill points. Was wise to ditch that too lol. Lot of good changes.

[@Nabekukka]

Welcome back... so, in case you haven't noticed it yet, you soon will. The old route between Amarr and Jita no longer exists, the shortest normal route now is somewhere around 40 jumps because some years ago, Triglavians captured Niarja along with some other systems as well and cut off the stargates.

[@govapes]

Holy heck! Niarja has been cut off? That is quite a change.

[@RomanianReaver]

Stopped playing in 2014, came back in 2023 Still around though playing in bursts.

[@chadnine3432]

The AIR dailies are trivial for established characters, but huge for new characters. They're a nice catchup mechanic.

[@bucklinfondue]

Between those, the daily login, and air career, I've gotten so much free sp. It's been nice. No waiting for skills.

[@mikeince9784]

@@bucklinfondue one of the best things about the free 10k skill points per day is that it allows a couple of new skill to be trained to Lvl 2 per day if needed for something, it means that the new player can find something that they want to do and go straight into it without having to wait 3 hours for the skill to finish training so that they can use that new ship/module.

[@Honethite]

Just came back to EVE after many years away, it's still a great game, just as I remembered but with tons of nice QoL updates. No MMO comes close to EVE for that adrenaline rush of getting a big haul or barely escaping death.

[@XquizitRush]

I got online today and bought a 3 day omega pass for both of my accounts. I haven't been on Eve for about 12 years. One of my characters has 73 million skill points. I could have sworn I had a Chimera Carrier last I played but its gone now. I'm not sure i am going to get back into it or not. Ive been involved with Star Citizen for over 10 years now and things are finally starting to happen there. If I do decide to get back in I will need to find a stable Wormhole Corp to join up with that can handle a re-nooby.

[@Mcappo]

I was away for 6 years and did the same started a new account to relearn the game. Now I plan on using that account as a pirate separate from my other 2 accounts. Eve is an awesome game. Obviously the daily reward has been revamped and it’s not bad since its daily but have roughly a month to complete. Fly safe!!!

[@nathandi_maggio8297]

Ive returned after about 7 years, i used to treat it like a second job lol. id even take it on vacations with me and play on the beach or in the restaurants if i wasnt out exploring, and yeah its even better now, i can go days without playing i log in every day for the items ive got a 1000 day training skill atm

[@bucklinfondue]

That sounds much healthier.

[@nathandi_maggio8297]

@@bucklinfondue yeah it is but im still enjoying it

[@madmoxie7471]

i may have done this also .... then the wife put her foot down

[@mikeemmons1079]

I did log in briefly about, 8 years ago? I couldnt fly any of my standard ships as a F2P character.

[@williamjones8775]

None of the ships that I had in my hanger were available to me and I just didn't play the game then, I've come back a few times but haven't really got back into it.

[@mikeemmons1079]

@@williamjones8775 Every time I think about rejoining, I recall the politics and general nastiness and I get tired. Otherwise F2P might have lured me back to being a paying customer. I used to pay for my account by in game earned plex. Mostly related to exploration.

[@ejaybrady6849]

Yea once they went f2p and new players are able to just inject skills and be flying t2 and t3 in 3 days I haven't been back took me years to train the skills I have only for ccp to say a big fuck you to the veterans

[@mikeemmons1079]

@@ejaybrady6849 Oh. That is disappointing. I think I was pushing 165 million when I dropped out. Had finally broken down and started training capitals. Mostly cuz you never know what you might get a chance to steal.

[@mikeemmons1079]

@@ejaybrady6849 You know, I kinda have the creeps right now. Just checked when the game went F2P and it lines up with a personal conspiracy theory. About Goonswarm, Russia, avenging dead friends, and DNC employees being mugged to death.

[@EmersonSecondary]

I just reactivated again after a 10 year break. So much has changed. Every change has been perfect. Even the Cyno change...

[@BerraLJ]

I was away from like 2004 to 2019, pretty much felt like it used to, UI had changed but tons of stuff was still there.

[@hylomane]

The daily quest "obligation" really puts me off, too. There is nothing more effective at making a game feel like a job.

[@hajostork9351]

regarding passive income: playing the market is still the most scalable isk-maker, but while a subscribed (omega) account can train tycoon skills to keep hundreds of buy and sell orders on the market, the free-2-play alpha pilots are limited to 17 market orders total, making "playing the market" as an alpha much less passive. This is one of the limitations that gave the alpha account the reputation of not being a free-2-play version of the full game, but more an extended version of the "free trial" eve had 10 years ago. Like, you can try out nearly any game loop Eve has to offer, but you're locked out of both the "highest gain" and the "mostly passive" parts of each of them. Which does make sense, because CCP doesn't want you to have an isk-making alpha pilot running in the background while you focus on something else - if you want "passive ISK", pay the subscription.

[@TorrentUK]

Haven't played Eve in years. I have an account that I created in 2004 and got to 100M sp (in the days when the only way to get sp was by doing the time learning them!). Logged back in in 2019, but didn't really stick around. Perhaps I'll log in again and try it.

[@thedudeabides3138]

Viewing the daily logins you don't receive as penalty's is on you. It's all down to perspective I guess. But viewing something as a penalty because you didn't login (when that's all you have to do, you don't even have to play) has to be a "you" thing. The alternative is to login, and claim the bonus, also a "you" thing, and you've no issue with that. I'm confused.

[@HilarityBribo]

it's still the best mmo

[@bucklinfondue]

There's no other game like it.

[@Steinjung]

I've been out for about 10 years myself. Thinking about coming back.

[@simonlockley-evans3925]

I've played eve on and off from launch, I've recently returned from a 10-year break, too. Didn't start a new character, though, I just play casually nowadays. I'm just playing solo atm. This is completely different to my last stint, where I got heavily involved in alliance politics. I have 4 children now, so I can't dedicate that kind of time anymore. I'm enjoying it though, lots of changes but also lots the same 🙂

[@bucklinfondue]

Same here. My play time is very sporadic.

[@VroomvroomNY]

I stopped playing when skill extractors became a thing. It ruined the game in my opinion. Age of an account used to actually mean something. Now you can find week old characters flying around ships that used to take a year to train for.

[@peterweber4094]

I completely ignore the air daily login rewards. I play when and how I can. For established players the rewards are minuscule.

[@Taz6688]

Daily goals are just to pump the numbers for login recording, otherwise the numbers would be low, what really matters in the account controller, many accounts are run by one person, skill farmers have frightening numbers of accounts, null sec operators have many accounts, if you fly around you will see fleets of Adam1, Adam2, Adam3 in a sort of MMO many fear playing with others, fleet mechanics can still be of use to griefers, the corp interface is part of the same issue, give someone one tick too many and thats your alliance/corp gone, and possibly ships/isk/blueprints. All of which add's to the distrust of others.

[@River313]

Took at 10 year break too , only played 2 years prior

[@albertpietrosanu2667]

One of no erors game I even play. Maybe in june I will reinstall me too, my caracters wayt for me.

[@PenguinWithaGun32]

Air daily goals are not daily login rewards.

[@VultureXV]

"After being a space nomad for months, i now have my own fitted Loki!" _spends the next month spinning it in the hangar_ _desire to not lose it wins out_ _havent played for months_

[@rhiload]

welcome back!

[@totallylegit4092]

I went back about 5 years ago and the thing that surprised me the most was how much the playersbase has changed. I started in 03 and the mentality of the newer people…I just dont know. The game just isnt for me anymore I think. I am too old now.

[@bucklinfondue]

I'm hoping the being older part will help me haha

[@totallylegit4092]

@@bucklinfondue it’s more the personality clash that proved my undoing. 🤣. The newer generations of capsuleers and I dont seem to get along. I have a far more bloodthirsty mindset and a “cruder” sense of humour. But I wish you the best of luck and that Eve gives you some good memories. Personally I am hoping that Star Citizen will finally shape up into something worth while and that I am still alive when that happens 🤣

[@husseinalramini4506]

It is not difficult to progress quickly as an alpha within 1 week and get to the point where the daily rewards are quite insignificant. Eve is ultimately a game of opportunity cost where fun is part of that equation and thos daily rewards become insignificant in that equation very quickly.

[@Riecheck]

the new daily login goals are way better than trying to do the old ones

[@Gamerznation704]

There are so many games out there that I just accept I won't get every daily reward. Thats fine, because in the grand scheme of things it doesn't really matter to my character's progression. Personally though, FOMO doesn't really hit but I guess its why I enjoy gaming now more than I have ever versus when I was younger. If I know I'm going to miss out on something, then its just that. Maybe eventually I will go back to it, but its cool if I miss out cause the game is the game at the end of the day.

[@traviscrockett3640]

I came back after a few years. Not much change in that amount of time

[@VibeRite.videos]

I wanted to and made several seperate attempts to get immersed in this game. Sucks cause it really is a beautiful game and I really like the mechanics, not to mention the player driven economy. But somewhere in between the excitement of learning the basics and fully committing to a corp, it seams to get very shallow, just a lot of grinding isk at the same copy paste pois (for what exactly I'm not sure), and watching the skill timer tick away. I'm sure I'm missing something, it's got it's reputation for a reason, but it's not for lack of trying on my part.

[@OperationDx1]

How to quit permanently. Biomass all your toons. Never log in again. Did this 10 years ago and never looked back.

[@bucklinfondue]

Damn. That's extreme.

[@OperationDx1]

@@bucklinfondue It actually was dude. I was loaded and gave away hundreds of billions of isk.

[@graythegray]

I've been playing on and off since 2003. I often end up starting a new char to try something else, then end up doing random stuff on one of my old chars lol

[@EilthalearinKheru]

30k active accounts and yet only 5k players...

[@KiteoHatto]

the multiboxing is a plague in mmos

[@grassCrow]

The daily login is just fine. Not sure your negative view in it makes any sense.

[@timtomnec]

Do you listen to your self when you talk? first half, daily logins are ok second half daily logins are bad

[@bucklinfondue]

Because only the Sith deal in absolutes

[@jimbobhootenanny4440]

i got the game after leaving in 2011 and all my progress is lost.........

[@bucklinfondue]

Oh damn that sucks!

[@timothypricesr5953]

Make sure you download the software for your muktiple accounts

[@bucklinfondue]

I'm not there yet lol. We will see in a few months.

[@Goldwinefromtheshire]

Welcome back

[@HandlesAreStupid2024]

I made sure I never play again because 99% of my assets are sitting in 0.0 in a station where I am not a part of their alliance. I just have to think about the potential logistics of moving all my shit and then I say "nah, im good".

[@acdimalev8405]

Can still use plex to buy omega. Just open your in-game wallet.

[@jordancharm6780]

I have nothing against daily rewards. Players who play this game everyday should be rewarded! If i choose to only play a few days a week, that's on me. Its not the developer's fault or the fault of players who do play everyday

[@mds698]

I never quit Eve but i just learned from you that they've brought something called "skill renting" lmao

[@RetroLooter]

The Dailies aren't that bad. Usually it is stuff you do everyday anyways. that free 3.6m sp is banger

[@bucklinfondue]

It's been really adding up. No waiting for the small level one or two skills.

[@roninrider1930]

i hear ya bro i played for 5 years straoght 3 toons..and quit for aboot 3 years and just came back.

[@BlackMoridin]

I've not played in 6 or 7 years and suddenly..... This is the first video i'm watching since the itch. Don't like the daily login thing..... not sure yet. Thx for video

[@bucklinfondue]

I've been enjoying it. Coming at it with a much different mindset this time though.

[@NateJ]

You sound a LOT like me... I just came back a couple months ago myself and legit hadn't been on since early 2014

[@DoctorEviloply]

I also stopped playing around the time Walking on Stations was cancelled. That was the big thing I was looking forward to. It getting yanked away, along with a string of other failures since on CCPs part as been what's kept me away. I don't trust the same people who thought making DUST 514 a PS3 exclusive whilst their audience is exclusively PC gamers to make good decisions to this day. And so far, my opinion has been completely validated by disastrous expansion after disastrous expansion. I thank CCP every day for helping me kick the habit by being so bad at their jobs.

[@BanControl]

Im gonna respectfully disagree with your take on the dailies, they are something i dont even think about, and that extra 10k sp is great for newer players to catch up faster with veterans like you were saying was a great thing about buying skill injectors. And the activities are generally stuff you would be doing everyday anyway, like killing npcs, etc. And if you are losing sleep over 2mil isk and 10k sp then the issue isnt the game design lol

[@Jeff55369]

Your take on daily rewards seems odd to me. You could make the same argument for any content you partake in in eve (and really any game.) If you get into a Homefront fleet with some people and manage to do the content, you could make 50-100 million isk in an hour. And the required skills to be able to fly a ship that can do that isn't huge. As for the sp reward from the daily. isk = sp, since you can buy skill points off the market. (Not to mention the fact that Omega time is also purchasable with isk.)

[@bucklinfondue]

A new player would not be buying sp off the market with self earned isk for some time. And would certainly not be doing homefronts for a while. It sounds like you're referencing more veteran players. I'm talking from a new player perspective.

[@h4rdc0r3noize]

I did homefronts for karmafleet university. We had people who played the game for less then a week and ppl who have played for years. Homefronts are literally for all players even day 1 pilots as you only need a venture to start doing the most basic ones and they all still pay the same.

[@realmwatters2977]

Yep left in 2012 came back now.

[@rainy131313]

The dreaded dailies, as you call them, are mostly background noise. The isk and skill points awarded are trivial; and completing two of the four daily (which is all you need for the SP) will usually be achieved just by going about your daily business. Often it's manufacture a single item (easy as pie). Often it is one or more "kill 25 NPCs" which, if you do ANY missioning or ratting, is already going to happen. This only pisses you off for Eve because you have an advanced case of FOMO, and don't want to miss out. Might want to get that checked.

[@bucklinfondue]

Defending it because it's easy, and not because it's good is not a defence. I feel you may just be numb to it from other games.

[@rainy131313]

@@bucklinfondue OP's complaint is that dailies create pressure due to FOMO, and he hates that pressure. My point is that the eve dailies only save you TIME, and they're often completed without even intending to complete them (i.e. via what you were going to do anyways). It's not like WoW dailies, where you have to go do stuff you wouldn't normally do. Complaining about the Eve dailies is just... pointless. You're complaining about trivial levels of cash and skill points, nothing irreplacable or unearnable elsewhere - which was another of OP's FOMO issues. If dailies earned you special skins or something that'd be one thing, but Eve's dailies literally earn you a few credits and some SP. If that gives you FOMO, you need therapy, not a different game.

[@bucklinfondue]

@@rainy131313 you've still yet to say what's "good" just doubling down on stating it's easy and insults. Either way, I just found out EVE is literally doing what I've asked in the next expansion but doing a monthly reward instead of daily.

[@Mic_Glow]

New Player Experience and the UI gets an update/ rework every 2 years (not always for the better) but rest of the game...instead of reworking 15+ year old stuff they add new, similar things. Probably because the code is so ancient and spaghettified that changing a combat site NPC would probably make Jita trade hub explode "f2p" is a lie, it was more true BEFORE the game actually was f2p. Back when plexing an account was

[@basedbuddha777]

Go solo PvP. Just have a minimal dollar budget instead of a time budget. It's way more fun and intense.

[@shaz_kafshaz]

Welcome back to New Eden Capsuleer. o7

[@skullowner3999]

20-25 euros pr a month no ty i will keep my record when i left back in 2010

[@fencer39]

Agree. i prefer to pay a sub rather than have to woork to make isk to use game currency. its a game Not a job.......but since they put up the sub price I dont bother anymore . And CCP making mining an Omega only . they can shove the game up their butt

[@tasede]

Honestly an L take, "I don't see daily logins as bonuses, just the one i miss as punishment." like seriously dude they are optional and only there to help give people some direction if they dont know what they want to do for the day, a small goal that is easy to obtain and maybe will help you meet new people to play with.

[@christierowley4731]

I played for 12yrs not played for 4yrs

[@npcknuckles5887]

Quit after the beta, never went back, and still glad I never went back.

[@bucklinfondue]

I feel like things may have changed a bit since then.

[@resurrectedstarships]

He wants to play a 'game". 😅

[@bucklinfondue]

Spreadsheet simulator is still a game. Because it's in space!

[@Johnjohnthejohn]

No. Escape before its too late. Once you are out, stay out.

[@hpbecraft]

daily things to do is archaic now? that's a joke right lol. The whole anti daily thing is bizarre to me.

[@gamabomb696]

iam still clean :)

[@Russell0369]

uninstall is the best option

[@troy5370]

Nothing changed you still can't fly a ship u give orders watch the results about as fun as watching paint dry for $20 a month rofl

[@praesentius]

No disrespect, but I really can't get onboard with the FOMO feelings you have about daily activities. They don't give you anything that you couldn't otherwise get. So, you can't really miss out. My feelings are that they give new players motivation to log in and maybe try new things, all the while rewarding them. The rewards are super helpful to new players and much less so for established players. And if you miss them today, no worries. Just do some tomorrow. Anyway, food for thought?

[@bucklinfondue]

I agree. But, what if instead there was a weekly reward with a far larger task and it gave you 50k sp. Something a person could chip away at throughout the week or if they have a single day to do it all. Because missing it just 3 times a week for four months is half a million sp.

[@praesentius]

@@bucklinfondue I think you're getting your wish. I was just watching the latest Equinox in Focus video and it reminded me of this conversation. They're changing from daily login rewards to monthly rewards where you have to log in and complete tasks. You have a month to do them.

[@bucklinfondue]

@@praesentius that's exactly what I wanted!

[@govapes]

Day 1 noobs are allowed to pilot Asteros now? Fuck what this game has become. I'm never returning.

[@bucklinfondue]

Turns out only for the tutorial. After they blow it up you start as normal.

[@fellpower]

Nope, it isnt a new game. its the old one - with the same issues ^^ Stopped playing after 16 years - and never come back ^^

[@Drew566]

One thing hasn't, you still need a mining permit.

[@govapes]

Praise James!

[@dungeonmaster4108]

EvE never come close to the game play that you get in Star Citizen. You're cheating yourself if you think it does. Trust me I played Eve back before it became a pay to win, had nine accounts. Even sold a Maco minor for the game. It'll never come close to Star Citiz

[@bucklinfondue]

I haven't played Star Citizen yet. Definitely putting that one on the list.

[@prolamer7]

Another cultist.... SC will NEVER be finished you poor thing...

[@robbinsteffens89]

I've played hundreds of hours of Star Citizen and I own a decent selection of ships. However, I much prefer the economy in EvE. Everything in Star Citizen, other than piracy just feels less impactful than EvE because there is no player economy.

[@megusta6848]

Its ded, gate camps.