Eve Online - My Fountain War Diary

[@scottmanley]

The 'Challenge' was the hunting, the maneuvering, the jockeying for position and they psychology involved in getting a hostile fleet engaged. That's half the game, but I cut it out because it's typically an hour of warping about before the action actually starts.

[@scottmanley]

Even when shooting at Testie's I still remember the good times we had together as space brosefs.

[@scottmanley]

Of course you know I was somewhat heavily involved in advertising and funding that event, so you might argue that this was another amazing example of goon metagaming. But then you see me opening the link in the video, thereby proving that if anything it was unintentional.

[@scottmanley]

It's nothing personal, just part of the game. I'm just glad people turn up and fight.

[@Noctover]

Even tho you started later than me, your eve vids bring back some serious Nostalgia, i remember fighting in Fountain back when i was in m0o, we ended up selling the region off for 1bil (a lot back then).

[@scottmanley]

'Random' TZ - honestly I just joint goon fleets when the timings align. Lots of other games to make videos for.

[@scottmanley]

There are L4's the are doable by a newbie in a frigate - Recon 1 & 2 are possible in a frigate. But yeah your average newbie isn't doing level 4 combat missions in 2 weeks. They are however able to get into PVP on day one, the fight at the end initially started out with a CFC newbie fleet, it just escalated to a major Capital slugfest.

[@scottmanley]

I'm not really joining BLOPS fleets, I'm just killing structures with Stealth bombers, not nearly so exciting.

[@scottmanley]

I don't scam, but I have manipulated markets, destroyed ships for their insurance and I was melting down Pax Amarria for Noxcium

[@scottmanley]

I was using Caldari Navy Nova's too for extra DPS

[@HuntingTarg]

All I needed to know about the Fountain War as a non-player got spilled in the first 30 seconds (plus watching your other video about possible novelization of it) : The Fountain War was Reddit vs. trolls. Edit: +Scott Manley | It's ironic that at the end you sign off with your signature 'fly safe' when in this and the 'Burn Jita' video you're part of a group that makes that less easy.

[@scottmanley]

Good thing I was using them on a hound then since it gets a bonus to explosive damage.

[@scottmanley]

Don't forget the PVPing.

[@scottmanley]

Don't join an Alliance, join Red vs Blue and just have fun. Then, once you've had fun join an alliance.

[@439sparky1]

The way you fly in formation in the wolf is beautiful. And people say that only happens in trailers.

[@nutdragon]

every time I view your videos about eve online the more I want to play this game.

[@AnimeSummit]

For those that may wonder why they were linking the Nyx kill: For about a day after that kill happened, most clients that tried to open the killmail crashed. The hope was that some enemies would click the link and get disconnected.

[@ColinWilson1980]

I found this video through The Mittani's site, and I really enjoyed it. Subscribed and will definitely be going through your other videos.

[@scottmanley]

I have considered doing that just to show people that it's not too late to start.

[@scottmanley]

I have alts in RvB always a good place to be.

[@volatilisjackal]

I have to say this Scott, i just like watching your videos to hear you voice, it puts me at ease. its better then music. Im not quit sure why, but i can listen to you talk all day long.

[@michaelchaney2336]

Time dilation and computer lagging should be put together saying there is a time lag.

[@PhenomAnonX]

Bel, what you're seeing here is not a typical day in EVE. Battles of this size can at times take weeks of planning. 3,200 person matches are epic battles compared to the smaller sized fleets battles that occur. Small group and roaming skirmishes is the real adrenalin rush and where a lot of people spend their fight time. There's 10 years worth of footage here on KZbin, go ahead and check out some other videos or even get the trial game. It's definitely in a league of it's own. Cheers!

[@AramakiMakisan]

wow eve sure has gotten alot prettier since ive been gone. im loving those missile effects

[@BoBoZoBo]

SCOTT! Discovered you with the Kerbal Space videos... lo and behold we are fighting on the same team in Fountain. Ill see you on the field

[@rbfishcs123]

Stuff like this happens somewhat often in alliance wars in Eve. Standard tactics & moves. @ Scott ~ Even your avatar in game looks like you! Well played sir.

[@Etragan333]

Great video! Looking forward to those possible tutorials and I'm mounting a list of questions that hopefully they'll answer as I'm almost a complete noob to the game.

[@mushious]

The Revenant kill has to be one of the finest moments of EVE. Bandwidthh should be proud.

[@MegaZuq]

in large scale wars like this there is a team of logistic pilots who seed the local market with all our needs in our staging systems.

[@fishblades]

If you play EvE you would know how "bombers" work in space. They are fired from a launcher with force and in a vacuum they will obviously continue in the direction fired. They are called bombs because unlike missiles they cannot lock onto their target. They fly in a straight line for a predetermined period of time then explode.

[@ODST_Parker]

Well, I had fun during the trial, flying solo in my Caldari Destroyer, but after seeing this, I know I'll never be able to commit to the game enough to be part of a group like this. The fact that releasing this video on KZbin could give your enemies more information is amazing to me, and the fact that both sides can field so many ships, each for a very specific purpose, just astounds me. I think I'll stick to Star Trek Online unless God blesses me with all the money and time in the world.

[@t3scobag]

There are other reasons we retreat in a bomber fleet apart from just losing our ships or giving enemies killmails.

[@chrissharp8276]

No, the Bantam is a frigate, the Scythe is a cruiser. The Osprey is the Caldari t1 logistics cruiser.

[@SV_Try_Magic]

its under the backgrounds color tab in the overview settings.

[@wereboy2010]

I really enjoy the EVE videos Scott. Keep it up!

[@pretentiousdolphin]

This video perfectly explains why I haven't played EVE in years. Too many people in fleets and losses don't really matter because everyone is rich. Too bad, there were some truly awesome times in this game.

[@MrBurnbabyburn]

Frigates are viable in every fight, though they may not do much damage on targets they can hold points on all ships besides Supercarriers. Meaning they can hold the ship there and it is unlikely able to outrun you while your friends in the ships with more damage kill them.

[@AlexVardr]

It's complex as fuck. This war he took part in culminated in the biggest battle in any game ever 9 days ago. Over 4000 players were present in the system 6VDT and the battle lasted for almost 6 hours because the devs slowed time to 10% normal speed to handle all the input. As a result, the Fountain region fell to CFC, with TEST losing all 62 remaining systems over the last few days as they retreated to Delve region. And all this happened because of players. No devs involved.

[@xXRageGamerXx]

I was having a hard time seeing the enemy capital ships, anyone else? or was it just the low quality on a tablet.

[@thenucularmelons2]

Scott, I don't know if you will find this or reply to this, but keep it up man, you are doing great, I got EvE online shorty after finding your videos and I dream on one day being in battles like that one with the wolf and all. Meanwhile im in a corp in null sec with 20 people but 1 is ever on, but the alliance helps :) anyways I just wanted to say keep up the good friken work man, I am loving it and your tutorials and videos in general have really helped me. -Sabastian.

[@scottmanley]

So how's that working out for you then?

[@zeidamaster]

Priceless! More EVE!

[@scottmanley]

You mean back when they were Bad?

[@MrStew1997]

Hey Scott, I though warp bubbles could just be deployed by any ship that has enough cargo space? Don't the larger ones need to be deployed by battleships/cargo ships due to their large sizes? Interdictors provide a mobile bubble that follows them around, or a directed beam of warp jamming goodness.

[@BartsBiggestFan]

It's nice to see Test and Tribe falling back to lowsec, LE CFC Kicked ass in this war.

[@Xealyth]

Well what I meant by casual is not really being set on a huge goal. I would probably go on a couple hours a day but I wouldn't consider playing it 10+ hours each day.

[@scottmanley]

I will say that the Rokh is a much better looking ship, so you look better on the field of battle.

[@RJReed67]

I really need to decide if I am going to start playing again, or sell everything.

[@mikejohnson8402]

Beanbag sounds like such an intimidating name. I bet Scott's shaking in his highly superior boots..

[@GothAlice]

Epic Mega fleet. Do you Bomber's Bar / sunday special? That Nyx loss has the added benefit of lagging people out of the game; especially during highly TD'd operations. The sheer number of people on it eats all of the RAM and you crash out. In theory a denial of service exploit. ;P

[@AlexVardr]

*11 days Everything that happens in this game is player-controlled. All ships, weapons, etc are produced by players. Empires rise and fall in this game all the time. It's fucking awesome. But it takes at least a year to reach a point where you are actually capable to take part in the big stuff. Maybe even 2 years. BUT! You don't have to do any of that. You can run missions, you can go mining, you can produce goods, etc. It's a sandbox game, after all.

[@MechanizedCaffeine]

W-spacer here: Besides armor and shield differences, what's the tactical advantages/disadvantages of using rail-Megas rather than Rokhs in large fleets?

[@Devroush]

I've been wondering if you were at all involved in this war Scott, keep bringing us the good fights, TEST isn't quite ready to give up yet :).

[@robertellison381]

You are a goon? You are my idol. If I still played Eve I would love to do some swarming.

[@20110102]

Goonfleet has some fairly strict entry requirements. Goonfleet isnt something that you can just 'jump into". Also Scott is not on as often as many fans think.

[@themanwiththepan]

And I thought I was doing something right by posting once in GBS and then making an intro post in the Eve thread. :(

[@AmarrEmperor]

If I am informed correctly, GoonWaffe, Scott's corp, does exclusively hire from the SA forums.

[@GothAlice]

Manley! I'm Draleth, head diplo for Brave Collective, alliance of Brave Newbies Inc. We've deployed to that area, staging in Vestouve, to generally kick everyone's buckets around (not taking sides) and have a hilarious good time. A few nights ago we managed to take out two local non-aligned carriers, which was great fun. I'd be awesome to see you online some time. What TZ do you operate in?

[@baivesan]

Hey, Scott, what happened with your cooperation with Marlona Sky - I wanna hear what you two have to say about the Revenant that got blown up - Its a huge event after all. And its also a cool way to keep people updated on the major events happening around.

[@tyjournalism8060]

Have you thought about recreating One of the smaller eve ships in Kerbal space program to orbit around Kerbal

[@Baleur]

Dear scott please tell me, how did you get colors in your overview tabs, and in the combat log where Capsule is red and the corp/alliance ticker is blue?

[@PterippiGaming]

Yes, they can jump onto cyno beacons. Both normal and covert ones.

[@Calvinxc1]

Love the EVE videos Scott! Keep'm up!

[@JohnShermanify]

The only entry requirement for Goonfleet/Waffe is that you have an active Something Awful account and a pulse. Our alliance will teach you to do the rest.

[@PterippiGaming]

In copmarsion to other PVP oriented alliances in EVE Goonswarm is the one known to reqruit every pilot that can fly rifter. So basically you can find a corporation for yourself if not in the Goonswarm Federation but in the CFC. Have a look at the list of alliances that are part of that coalition aynor.cl/eve/coalition.php and search for the recruit officers' contacts ingame.

[@scottmanley]

We can always use more goons.

[@Tergative]

how would one join?

[@rietveen26]

i think linking that nyx kill is lag warfare as it is so big it can actually crash clients sometimes

[@AmarrEmperor]

The TCU becomes vulnerable when 50%+1 of the gates are covered by SBU.

[@SuperNuclearHamster]

Love bomber fleets, spend weeks playing around with bombers bar, good fun.

[@20110102]

I think he's referring to the lack of actual dogfighting. EVE is more traditional MMO "click, wait for it to die" style gameplay. As opposed to freelancer / X3 / Elite

[@62cents]

Megathrons with rails - been using this in c0ven in war with sys-k back in 2009.

[@ThrashAbaddon]

i think the main problem was that i first played games from X series,FPS control was the thing that i missed in EVE

[@Baleur]

You don't really just join an alliance like that from day 1. They are not just like clans in other games, it's more involved than that. Your first week or so should consist of just getting used to the game, doing all the tutorial missions and talking to people in the Help channel, exploring the market, universe and figuring out how equipping ships and stuff works. Then you can open up the pandoras gate of dealing with player corporations & alliances :)

[@VTOLAircraftMad]

considering he did say bomber PLANES: -you mean atmosphere, not field of gravity? -mines are occasionally dropped by bomber planes -so, a bomb is only a bomb if its a missile or a shell, instead of just being a bomb? but, the thing is that he never said bomber PLANES, instead he said stealth bombers, which are characterised by being frigate-sized ships, with bad defences, but a cloak and the ability to launch torps and bombs

[@supercookie807]

the eve online UI is such a flustercluck

[@Ultamatum0502]

How do you have colourful overview tabs and the names to pop up on ships

[@senorelroboto2]

It's hard to see anything in these battles without all the overlaid icons. When the camera is at a distance of several hundred kilometers, an enormous several kilometer ship just doesn't seem that big.

[@bend1483]

gaahhhh...... this makes me want to play again.. Damn you Scott Manley!!!

[@ubuntuibex]

Yes, its about 10-15 USD per month per account

[@20110102]

in 3 weeks 17.6 years worth of production hours have been destroyed. thats straight manufacture not including resource farming. Guess those hi-sec pubbies are good for something.

[@SASardonic]

This is a really good video, cheers.

[@lazygamerz]

The apoc got a huge applied dps in oddyssey, am I right in assuming goons don't fly that because of being more gallente than other races? I'm pushing 4k alpha at over 100km at frigs :D (with right flying as much as one in two shots are wrecking shots)

[@Epicshadow123456789]

If you like shooting stuff or mining and making weapons you should! And the alliance you should join is something you should only think about when you're well off and perhaps have a few friends.

[@keegamii]

Megas have more tank and no big resist hole and more drone shit The Rokhs have more DPS and range and a giant EM resist hole but also have real good resists against hybrids so it might seem the rokhs are better but the CFC kinda blob the rokhs to death so all those benefits don't matter at all.

[@Orphican]

More of this Scott Its great!

[@rnedisc]

scott what are your thoughts on GEEMU and will you ever concider flying with us? :)

[@majorhans6]

19:00 they were linking that kill because it can crash your PC. Just a troll thing

[@Lansing3600]

During my time in CFC this last winter, id say the blops fleets were my favorite thing to take part in, lots of fun. Ive never liked massive lag fleets in 0.0, before tidi it was no fun, and with tidi its still no fun.

[@Hellyeah989]

As a member of E-Uni it makes me sad to see that you helped blow up so many of my mates. But if there's one thing that we're good at, it's blowing up :-)

[@cgerman5]

this video is a testament to why i don't spend much time in nullsec

[@20110102]

(TEST. SOTA, posted today) "I’m going to get this out of the way first. Financially we're finally to the point where I need to ask people to contribute" No Test, you are the financially strained.

[@t3scobag]

TEST have been saying this for weeks, and yet our bomber fleets are continuing to destroy their SBU's etc. There is another reason that we run, but I doubt you could comprehend that.

[@blueduckpond1]

Scott that Fight for Fountain wasn't fun buddy, so much grind lol. and btw ive found your character in game haha

[@AlexVardr]

Effort, yes. Money, no. If you invest a reasonable amount of time, you can get easily get thrice the amount of ISK needed for a PLEX. That's one of the interesting things about this game: You can buy playtime with ingame currency. Which also leads to anything ingame having a value in real life. People have lost ships with thousands of dollars/euros in them.

[@HuntingTarg]

not really 'in' them; most of the time its just a measure of real-world equivalent value in time and effort. The only tunnels between ISK and real-world currencies are PLEX (which everyone uses) and ADP (which nobody but the fecklessly affluent use).

[@rotorite86]

Scott is a Goon? I am disappoint. Tribal Band FTW!

[@insertnameplz1]

Monsieur Manley, what Corporation and (if) Alliance are you in? Sorry if you'd already said in another video/comment.

[@AnimeSummit]

There isn't really much info that isn't common knowledge out in Fountain. This is almost entirely to show people that aren't out there what is going on.

[@keegamii]

He is a real goon, not one of their alies.

[@schmobii]

I don't think so it tooks so long time to getting into it.

[@r1ch4rd1337]

Oh yeah, that's not really what I would consider casual play. At a couple hours a days you can get stuff done but PVP fleets could get difficult sometimes as some Ops can last 2-5 hours depending on the situation.