EVE Online - starting industry as a small corporation

Here is my roadmap for getting into industry as a small corporation in EVE Online.
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[@violentgrey7144]

i swear you have a great attitude when it comes to eve and how to relate to newer and experienced players. I love watching your videos. no matter what the topic.

[@Nodjia]

great video, I like your explanations for how to start out and what to expect. setting expectations is a big deal.

[@Cobalt_Tree]

Perfect video. Thanks very much. Me n my coworker just started our first corp last night. Perfect timing

[@gideoncervan9915]

Soviet63 good luck

[@Cerealwoken]

I guys still running it?

[@bebop417]

delonewolf, is your corp public/recruiting? Newbro miners and manufacturers could really use a place to go for information, content, guides, saftey, etc. I think you would be perfect for that kind of leadership role, your pretty much doing it already with these awesome videos. It can be very overwhelming for new players but you provide a good direction. I dont even mine but I would love to support something like that. Imo you should think about it if your not already. Maybe even make a cool newbro guide to advertise it.

[@greatestmate2410]

That would be good. It also depends what kinda industry it is, if you build ships, supply the military, get money for self-benefit, et cetera.

[@kickassv8]

Love your vids. Waiting for your logo shirts and podcast to come out.

[@NarrowAscent]

Thanks so much for the help delonewolf. I am trying to set up a new corp and there is few videos helping us start out. I just found ya and even though 5 years later you have my sub :)

[@thsaintful]

+1 for the WH route; so fun

[@Fractal227]

Their is alot of cool stuff you can do in EVE, a few as delonewolf described and i thought i would put a few here that i do (Most in HS). 1) Planatary interactions in 0.5 system, just T1 and sell for profit. 2) When possible i purchase goods in HS stations and sell at LS stations for profit. 3) I make goods with a high margin rate and sell 4) Attack mining fleets and salvage the elite recks (solo, loads of fun) 5) Currently i am getting my gallente reputation up so i can get R&D agents on my side. And as an addon to buying and selling in HS / LS i am also making my own system for market statistics, expenses and profit with EVE Crest, to see what is worth spending time on and what is not. Their are tools out their that exist for this task but they are not very good in my opinion, so that a nice side project for learning.

[@allanmetsar123]

love your vids as always, but as i have lived most of my EVE existence in wh space, i do think that, for a small 1-5 human player corp (20-25 ingame alts probably when in WH) who really can't mount a defence, a C2 or C3 with a low sec static is much safer, tho logistics will be a pain.

[@acemac79]

I am in your research station right now!

[@tzetodizark4101]

Thanks very usefull video, the best

[@broncosfanman69]

Thanks for your videos, have always enjoyed watching them. Was wondering if your station is public then do you receive isk when other players use it with taxes on services and is it lucrative?

[@delonewolf]

My taxes are 0,01% so it's not very lucrative. The market now has a minimum of 1% and 50% of that is taken by npc taxes, it helps a lot with the fuel costs.

[@diggadsuncleharveycgk3637]

Thanks for them help I want to start a corporation

[@vaporiiz]

Interesting video! hope all is well

[@Fractal227]

What happened to your structures in Dodixie? What i miss.

[@brhimes3270]

luv the video wolf

[@acemac79]

I think I use your stations as my staging area for provi thanks!

[@justthisguynick4147]

would defiantly want to join a wormhole corp and gain experience before moving a new Indy corp out there . pvp is required

[@willowtan7113]

Overview on planetary interaction next?

[@EuropeansCars]

So you can only build the Raitaru if you are a Omega. So after end periode cant I use the station?

[@lichdesign]

As a newbro what is the most lucrative way to get the materials? Mining or buying them? I really want to to these type of stuff as well.

[@giltex13]

For Manufacturing Only costs 1512 Fuel Blocks per week. Add research adds additional 1512 Fuel Blocks, add Reprocessing for 0 cost reprocessing as a must costs 1680 Fuel Blocks. Block cost 19500 Isk - Weekly Running Cost 91.7 Mil Isk per week. In my Corp we make our own fuel cells and make 100 Mil isk a week profit

[@delonewolf]

that's good info, thanks for the comment.

[@danielsun0402]

the fuel cost is for an citadel right? but till today i dont understand the difference between POS and citadel. when should i choose to run a POS and when should i choose to run a citadel??

[@delonewolf]

don't go pos, they will be phased out at some point. Structures are what will be best supported by ccp in the future so i'd just bite the bullet.

[@DjNaphthalin]

Don‘t spoil sweet sweet Yona😭 That‘s your homesystem.

[@GamingLife-cp6xj]

Hi im just noticing that you didnt explain how to get the actual structure built from the blueprint that you buy on market

[@VoodooD0g]

these structures are HUGE, why do you need more than one if you want to produce and refine? in the npc stations i can do both as well?

[@alphamarshali8136]

one question can be built industry if we are in military ?

[@dienadel30]

I could just use yours I could do it I think could you explain the risks and overhead for people that can only play 3 hours a day ?

[@acemac79]

Hey if I am going to have my alts in a Corp what is the best one of your stations to use as a home base? I want to minimize moving materials

[@delonewolf]

if you're going to do industry it would be the Manufacturing Raitaru. I keep most ships and higher value items in the Astrahus though. That one has the clone services.

[@durma77]

How does the new quantum core mechanic stuff affect this "starting out" phase?

[@delonewolf]

higher cost and a bit more risk when you deploy the structure.

[@Saltiren]

If you based at first out of Yona VI M5 CreoDron Factory, where was your clone set? Was it at the closest available station?

[@delonewolf]

this was a very long time ago and if i remember right we had our HQ in Villore back then for some reason and a jump clone in the minmatar station after a bit. We were very new to the game back then.

[@aknsanl4223]

Hello. I fear, if I set a Raitaru, someone might war-dec and destroy it. Could you tell me how probable is this in High Security?

[@delonewolf]

if you don't set it up too close to a trade hub i think it's not that high.

[@somndahma9581]

sweet,

[@tengri9459]

What are your (or any other small corps for that matter) plans or advise in case some professional assholes decide to include your little corp in their random wardec rotations? Especially in case of structure defense with the upcoming Upwell changes... if or better when it happens - just cut the losses, pack up and relocate?

[@delonewolf]

we have a base of operations in an npc station in Gallente space and in Soliture, a highsec island, after the moon mining project i'm probably going to make a third in Minmatar space, when wardecked we jumpclone around to avoid giving them targets.

[@PieVsCake]

delonewolf do you have to worry about your structures? That’s my main concern as I doubt we would have the numbers for a defense

[@matheusalvarez7]

@@PieVsCake You'd have to probably have another 2 alt corporations to declare war to yourself that way you'd be safe from others doing it.

[@danieljimenez45]

I can't find that structure to build it or buy it

[@BreakingArt1]

Great info. I spent the weekend getting ganked every time I busted a rock.

[@Justin-je7yy]

In high sec I doubt it

[@BreakingArt1]

What's high sec?

[@shipmate3577]

I want to be a Hauler, but don't have the capital for a Jump Freighter. I do have the Orca. Could I just use that as a Poor Man's hauler? What would be the recommended high-sec hauler that's not a Jump Freighter? Orca, Bowhead, etc.?

[@BaronVonSparklefarts]

You would not do high sec hauling in a jump freighter. A normal freighter with a webbing alt would work best for high sec hauling. If you are doing empire bordering low-sec, you could use a T2 industrial. If you are doing deep low sec or null, then a Jump Freighter becomes the ideal choice, assuming you have a cyno alt to light the way. Ive been away from the game for a few years so some of these things might have changed

[@MaybeTiberius]

@shipmate You can absolutely haul in an orca. In fact i have a providence and i dont even use it to haul. My orca is my workhorse hauler. The Cargo space in total is pretty good if you add all the different cargos together. You can haul expesive Stuff in an Orca just fine because your corp hangar cant be scanned and you can hide the stuff youre hauling. Also with a MWD travel fit, the orca is just worlds! faster than a freighter without even needing a web alt. I used 2 accounts and theres simply no reason to use a web alt on the providence if the orca can do a lot more trips in the same time while i can meanwhile have my other account getting more isk in while hauling.

[@BaronVonSparklefarts]

@softlight Yea, totally safe bro...just ask these pilots zkillboard.com/kill/71579880/ zkillboard.com/kill/71569553/ zkillboard.com/kill/71549893/ zkillboard.com/kill/71527235/

[@briancates3576]

Baron Von Sparklefarts Obviously nothing is "totally safe". However, literally hundreds of Orcas move through Jita everyday unmolested.

[@Alzyan]

Delonewolf if I can drive a chimera, where would be the best place and fit to buy it

[@delonewolf]

best place would be from your alliance, if that's not an option look for a lowsec system where it's sold but it's very risky to do that.

[@abcdefg12435]

A good place is to look through your Alliances contracts. The next is your Alliances trade hub. If you can't find one there, go to Jita or Amarr and buy a Chimera BPC set and buy the ore OR build it yourself. Personally, I try to build all my PvE ships.

[@Durangedkitten]

Cameron Lytle search chimera in contracts filter for ships. My suggestion is play the game more before you do so im guessing you are fairly new do your research and learn from other people.

[@JinaSolo]

@10:00 - I disagree, PI makes money when you are off line and is not that hard to set up. Also, with PI and Ice Mining you have Fuel Blocks. How do these structures stack with POSs?

[@delonewolf]

the new structures have better bonusses because ccp wants us to use them over a POS.

[@mrsmith0310]

If corp is in FW and will deploy station in 0.5 in friendly faction territory. Enemy mil can attack it, but will concord attack them ?

[@delonewolf]

I don't think so.

[@cisflex]

Quick question is it possible to have manufacturer and reposesing serices in the same raitaru i wanne start my own raitaru?

[@delonewolf]

It has 3 service slots so yes, that's not a problem.

[@cisflex]

delonewolf any advice on where to place it i am going start with ammo and build up my industry

[@MaybeTiberius]

I really think this "highsec carebear" mindset is not deserved for alot of things. yes you will prob do less money but its not allways about the money, but about fun and trying stuff and all that. i havent played in 2 years alltho i m getting back into it in a few days for some industry. For me personally, i prefer high sec industry to lowsec or nullsec simply because its more fun to me, i can manage a corp, operations and whatnot without a issue. in nullsec i allways felt super limited simply because everytime you need something you are depending on someone else to fly things over. You want to try a new ship? You ll need to wait for this guy to fly it over. You want to sell stuff? You need to wait for this guy to do it for you. And depending on his online times, you ll need to wait quite a bit for everything you plan to do and i simply dont like this. (maybe having your own jump freighter will change this) But till then i like to be able to do stuff on my own whenever i want them do be done.

[@briancates3576]

SoftLight Completely agree. Im having way more fun in highsec than I ever did in null. In null I always felt trapped, where in highsec i can do whatever I feel like.

[@s6boystu]

Considering doing a station myself, but can’t find any info about fuel - cost, can you make it yourself, Is it readily available ? Just Sub’d to your channel too, keep up the good work and fly safe o7

[@delonewolf]

structures don't cost fuel anymore but the services do, look there for the cost. You can make it yourself but it needs ice and PI so it's not easy to have everything close by.

[@s6boystu]

delonewolf thanks dude, going to look at fuel making first to see if I can use that to fund the protect. I have a Max’d miner / Indy character and have always fancied having my own station 👍

[@dienadel30]

love dital if yu aren;t ready they will mess with ya...

[@scottrodgers2139]

I'm seeing open-to-the-public industrial stations in nearly every hi-sec. Why own and operate a station there if I can just rent an office for my corp and have all the benefits without the investment?

[@delonewolf]

because it's a nice goal and if you have a good location you might even be able to earn tax revenue from the people that use the facility.

[@eposplaysgames]

One of my refineries brings in about 10-20 million daily in reprocessing taxes from highsec corps

[@leverloos]

The owner can kick you out of acces at any moment on a whim. Chances are maybe low. But definately worth keeping in mind. I own my own structures with clone bys to jump between clones because I am paranoid of the owner revoking my acces to my 3+bil clone at any moment.

[@bebop417]

moon punching. you can control the schedule

[@eposplaysgames]

And if you do venture into low and null you can blow up any ninja miners 4 words: Standup Guided bomb launcher

[@nikitachadyuk5393]

You can bring battleships inside a transport ship into c1. Don't need to actually build them inside.

[@Tiamat_ER]

It is still fairly unwieldy, it's just better to have members build them.

[@BoardGamesBooksAndWhat]

can someone explain what the difference is between hi sec and low sec is?

[@Filete]

In low-sec is free PVP

[@w_o_tmarksman2002]

a "small" corp, how many players cause me and 1 friend do missions and trigs with battleships and were alpha and 1 friend does mining only in a venture then so idk if we can actually do it or not

[@marionogueira6211]

he said 5 members in his corp. the problem for you and your friends isnt the isk though, it's the fact that youre all alphas, you cant even train the skills you need for creating a corp and fitting raitarus. if you all were omega, for 3 people with low skills it would only take one or two weeks to get all the isk you need for the raitaru.

[@w_o_tmarksman2002]

@@marionogueira6211 ok well that will be fine cause we're doing incursions to plex our accounts and we've been doing very good in it too surprisingly

[@marionogueira6211]

@@w_o_tmarksman2002 yeah, incursions, triglavian invasion sites (which are basically The same as incursions), gas mining and null ratting are some of the best way to get isk as alphas

[@mrgarcia2086]

what if i find a system but i dont own the poco can i still lay down my raitaru?

[@delonewolf]

yes, that's not a problem.

[@jeffreychapple5705]

The 0.8 system does not protect you from wardecs, in where our corporation lost an Azbel and a Raitaru. :(

[@Luke29121999]

Well, dont put up structures you cant defend then.

[@honeybadger9425]

You get 24hrs notice with a war dec why didnt your leader simply take them down until the war was over?

[@Filete]

@@honeybadger9425 Cause now the structures take 7 days to take it down

[@MA-xw6zy]

OMG there are structures in eve ?!!!

[@rolan4dezwinz381]

Do you still recommend creating a business now?

[@HalkerVeil]

Why did someone take them out? lmao

[@damankharoud5034]

Can you do this on regular edition

[@delonewolf]

for industry you want to be omega because alpha has a lot of restrictions that will make it hard to scale up enough.

[@bifrost1377]

He does such a good job on most of his explanations, then he spouts out something like do PI, but doesn't say what it is.. so good, but still frustrating.

[@abrowncownow360]

To be fair, that explanation is another 10-20 minute video

[@zechariahblackmon6374]

I’m thinking PI is Planet Interactions ( Mining planets) could be wrong as I am only a couple of days into playing eve.

[@svenjelinic3418]

How u can build station? U must be a omega or? Thank you

[@captainharlock31]

Is it still actual? I wanna make a Corp for myself and my toons

[@delonewolf]

it has become a lot more risky, with the cores needed for structures you become a target for wardecks a lot faster.

[@captainharlock31]

@@delonewolf rgr that

[@LordHoenhaim]

Did u see new event site guardians gala on sisi? U can`t do that site with dron ship. Try yourself and faind your own way :P Btw. Carrier spawn in hs on that site.

[@delonewolf]

not yet, i'll try yo find some time this weekend.

[@gnarvana9848]

1:32

[@btocanonymous4464]

how valid is this now? we are a small corp - 3 moon bases and a raitaru and most profits are eaten to pay for "protection" ...

[@jerrydudey5610]

Where is detal

[@dienadel30]

Stage high sec

[@thatone2297]

Somewhere that is no longer safe after this vid

[@greyskull3363]

I would have been nice to List the Building you needed to get started. Picture helped but not real clear.

[@tb7pets]

He said its name, hopefully you figured out it's a ratariu

[@Raspberry1986]

And then the wars come...

[@Tiamat_ER]

Don't be a target, hire members who pay attention, don't claim what you cannot defend, and don't anchor things you cannot afford to lose. Just ask yourself "If this got shot tomorrow, am I okay if we move operations to a NPC station?" If you can't answer yes... not good

[@M_Archive]

is there any way to make real life money in eve online ?

[@delonewolf]

it's not allowed.

[@M_Archive]

@@delonewolf not allowed ? or not possible ?

[@CrystalApex]

btw it takes about 3-4 years worth of training and experience to learn all this shit, and gather THAT much isk…. You forgot to mention all that. You don't just walk into that sort of shit in eve within a couple of weeks.

[@dienadel30]

he cool but his brother !

[@dienadel30]

doh or push you out of your .5

[@Youwels]

Delonewolf, send me a messadge on youtube about that WH space ;)

[@dienadel30]

stop

[@SuperMichael996]

9:44 P.I meaning what? Not only that your accent annoys me, but you also use short terms. imo u i.

[@dismayedtrinket2518]

Planetary interaction.