Even more MYTHBUSTING! | Warframe

[@Moley1Moleo]

For Myth 2, unless it was patched out since happening to me, you can also get a little bit of resources by pressing the levels to activate the mechanisms that reveal destructible tanks in one of the simulated corpus tiles. Destroying the tanks drops some resources (I think it was Hexanon from a Jupiter tile. EDIT: Actually I think it was oxium.)

[@MYPEEF]

Came here to say this. You can still do it and they have a chance to drop oxium. I usually get around 30 each time I hit that mission tile.

[@yurisopilnyak9425]

There an another one too, on an infested corpus ship map there's a whole train cart that can either be moved close with a button or just parkoured into, that has a few regular breakable chests.

[@jackgamer6307]

It is a gas city tile, and the pylons drop oxium

[@yurisopilnyak9425]

On the Jupiter one you can also open Alad V's lab btw, I don't think you get scenes from the chests inside but I do believe you can get sentien cores from the enemies in there.

[@hartantoanggoro]

Eris tile only dropped creds

[@KingMasteron1]

You are the only person who has explained multishot on beam weapons well

[@takezokimura2571]

Rifles and shotguns also have primed cold mods, which are used for blast combination. So you can still use the blast combination with these weapon types.

[@DerekIcelord]

Shotguns have a primed electric mod, not cold. Which is actually better, since that's part of corrosive.

[@yeoldpubman]

@@DerekIcelord Shotguns have both, they got primed cold earlier this year

[@uberwarlocker]

​@@DerekIcelord primed chilling grasp

[@Gwynbleiddsanity]

@@DerekIcelord got both

[@ThatGuyRaylo]

Actually for Myth 2, There is a case where you can get a Jupiter Tile-set that has switches that expose breakable components that drop Oxium.

[@thetexasdolly7885]

Your testing is always amazingly in depth, thank you for sitting there and shooing enemy’s 108 times. Putting in the work always!

[@AmalgamJiena]

The Nekros myth was DEFINITELY never true. I tried helping my friend farm it back in the derelict days and we got back to back systems before we finally got the nuroptics we needed. I forgot how many systems we got, but it was, for sure, more than twice in a row.

[@RevokFarthis]

Literally went through this last month to help a friend, got 6 Nekros Systems in a row

[@mas7rreaper126]

I should probably farm Nekros

[@Trooper10231]

Back in the key days: 14 chassis and 8 neuroptics before one systems on my original nekros farm!

[@cortesyes]

Seems like I got lucky with nekros then, had to do it only 4 times with a friend to get all the blueprints

[@coenx1]

I remember when getting Mesa parts took 3 keys for one attempt. Farmed for several months with a friend, and was still missing the final part we needed.

[@arcanaxiii6665]

I remember when Blast used to inflict a knockdown, I used to run it with Toxin on weapons like the Tysis and Torid. In my mind, the two complement each other, one gaining damage against targets the other loses to, and Blast's knockdown provided CC that could keep enemies from fighting back or leaving the Torid cloud, while Toxin ticked away.

[@Orosian5]

Those were the days...

[@DerekIcelord]

Shotguns have a primed electric mod, which means you can get the same elemental bonus with corrosive and beat a blast secondary.

[@avillegas8857]

Shotguns also have a primed cold mod making both equal. Rifles only have primed cold giving blast the higher bonus.

[@darthplagueis13]

@@avillegas8857 They're not equal though, because if you get the same numerical bonus, corrosive is stronger.

[@grummdoesstuff2983]

There is one case where multishot does effect the number of beams on beam weapons. For the Quanta, and it’s mutalist and prisma variants, if you ever go below 2 multishot, you will only fire one beam. This can only happen with riven with a multishot negative, so it’s not really an issue, unless you build for it for some reason.

[@NotASuspicousPerson]

Pretty much any beam weapon that innately shoots multiple beams use normal multi shot functionality. Pretty much the only time it's different is if the gun shoots only 1 beam. I believe the tentacles from the infested kitguns are also beams, and my go-to secondary is the tentacle multi shot, which has innate 5 beams (tentacles), which thanks to my riven mod I can shoot about like 25 or so beams. Unfortunately those tentacles behave strangely and has innate punch through of 1 so sometimes they tend to target enemies behind what I'm aiming at. But if I can get all of them hitting the same target up-close it can shred pretty much anything in seconds without any buffs.

[@gamingwithjado962]

@@NotASuspicousPerson right, and the phage's number of tentacle beams also are affected by MS

[@grummdoesstuff2983]

@@NotASuspicousPerson you know, I completely forgot about those weapons. Thanks for reminding me.

[@Arventis]

Kinda related to #2, you can also get mods from SO, specifically Repair Kit. It can sometimes drop from domestik drones.

[@Rangerdp117]

In sanctuary onslaught there is one infested ship map with a few crates on it. Very rarely these will drop oxium. Though it is so rare to get the tile and get it to actually drop I have only seen it happen twice, and both were a while ago so it might have been patched out but I doubt it.

[@mehcutcheon2401]

In the gas city part with the buttons to raise the pillars, the pillars will still drop oxium from the corner parts that can be broken.

[@oriondezagrats4228]

Similarly to the Thumper, if you manage to strip the armour off a Necramech, you can use Blast there as they have the Robotic health type under their Alloy Armour, meaning they have a 1.75x weakness to Blast. ----- Blast History lesson: Blast used to be a valued element for Condition Overload back when it was still an exponential multiplier. Back in those days, Blast inflicted a hidden [knockdown] effect in addition to the Blast status itself, and both would count for Condition Overload. To understand the full impact of this, Condition Overload used to be a 1.6x final damage multiplier for every unique status on an enemy, including hidden ones like Microwave, Knockdown, Stagger, and so on. Given that after a while many melee used to have common or guaranteed enemy staggers on it, the damage output of them just kept going higher, and higher, and higher. Gas was similarly valued due to proccing Toxin, so you could have Magnetic + Gas and Blast + Corrosive as great Condition Overload element combos depending on which faction you were up against, but Blast was usually used more because Corrosive has always been more valuable than Magnetic, and being able to CC enemies has always been valuable, even if it wasn't the 'meta'.

[@italyadventuretime]

For myth 5, we also have a primed cold for primary weapons so we can also mod more blast on primary guns too

[@kindredbarkmaw2509]

Also Blaze on shotguns exists, and just adds a raw 90% damage in addition to the heat damage it adds, meaning blast would have a SIGNIFICANTLY higher base dps off the bat on shotguns than corrosive.

[@theunhingedgamer3762]

@@kindredbarkmaw2509 if only blast was actually good

[@CrashSable]

@@theunhingedgamer3762 If you don't care about the proc, then bigger number means deader quicker. If blast gives you the bigger number, it's better

[@RapTapTap69]

@@CrashSable nah resistance to blast damage reduces the damage by 50% where as corrosive is usually 75% more effective against armour. Making corrosive do more damage even before corrosive procs

[@cralo2569]

@@CrashSable on very few ocassions lol, we really need an overhaul for blast

[@LFiles48]

About the first one, I think they mentionned it during a devstream (in September maybe ? it was about the ammo changes), that it's a thing they could do, but Pablo seemed to not really like the idea.

[@nixtafin74]

Myth 2, i have witnessed this with my gf. We run primed animal instinct on our companions, and sometimes, we see loot that has spawned outside of the map, where a room would or could be. AoE weapons or slam attack is sometimes large enough to break them open and we get few credits or some resource. Rare but possible

[@JustAGuy1027]

Blast is now OFFICIALLY useless. With the addition of the mod “Primed Convulsion”, you can now get a corrosive damage boost that is greater than blast’s

[@Xul-Xata]

With the introduction of Primed Convulsion, you can mod corrosive as high as blast for secondary weapon, and thus making corrosive still the most optimum choice.

[@cralo2569]

i love the gymnastics for blast when he calculated the damage vs corrosive

[@khakiwolf4146]

I remember seeing a video where someone accidentally bought a very broken Riven mod for the Opticor that had like -300% multishot. When he tested it in game it shot the Opticor beam backwards.

[@vampireguy24]

*Shot the Opticor beam backwards, damaging and killing them in the process. I'm pretty sure it was MrWarframeGuy

[@awacsrazgriz967]

Yeah it had like -78.2% Multishot Could remember it wrong tho but yeah im pretty sure it was ZitaWup

[@K-lero]

shotguns have Primed Chilling Grasp (165% cold) and also have Blaze (+heat+damage) so this weapon class can also get high explosive damage for the tiny amount of cases that requires it

[@Discokrieg]

That is a wicked shot of Lephantis's mouth in the thumbnail. I didn't even know what I was looking at for a moment. Also, that has got to be one of the most beautiful Trinitys I've ever seen.

[@ML7WL]

"beam weapons are status kings" is still true due to fire rate and multiple ticks of damage, this can be aplied to a fast firing assault rifle too (with better status results) but beams generally have AoE/punch through alongside the above. The only beam weapon that behaves somewhat "correctly" with multishot is the phage.

[@tomodayama7101]

I know this is going to sound like bs, but I actually got oxium during a sanctuary onslaught. But only on one very specific corpus tile set where you press a button to lift giant battery looking pillars and then destroy those, and somehow got oxium. I was just fooling around one day because I was farming a second Khora for the infested room and saw the panel was interactable. I don’t know what that tile set is called, but I think it’s the one from Jupiter? The one with (s)Alad V as the boss of the planet. So I only found you recently, but your videos helped me out when I got back into Warframe recently. Got a new subscriber here :D

[@mehcutcheon2401]

Its the gas city tileset.

[@zzScopoProductionszz]

We need more mythbusting! Let me give you one: I was doing The Circuit as Khora and noticed my Venari also had my companions name. I also noticed Venari doing absolute bonkers damage, so I'm curious if the 2 companions combine mod effects during The Circuit? My Venari in similar level content does not one-shot like they do in The Circuit. (before any decrees obviously)

[@Wooskii1]

I've always felt like AoE doesn't work on tusk thumpers, like the actual projectile hitting the little green hotbox on the leg is the only thing that's accounted for. I don't know if that's true, but they do seem to melt with the Grattler much faster than Voidrig's 4 (which does like 100 times the damage). I would expect it to disappear after a couple of semi closely placed shots, but nope, I only get a couple hundred damage if I hit it directly... It's just weird. Seems like PT could be similar too but that fight confuses me every single time lol.

[@theunhingedgamer3762]

thing is Voidrig's 4 has hit registry issues when it comes to hitting big targets I had issues with it back when the Orphix Venom event was in the game because I was one who didn't have or want to use Bone Widow

[@pogowitwiz]

Your dealing with the Blast Damage doesn't touch on the Blast Status Effect, which while not technically part of the original myth statement, Blast Damage is still the most widely applicable source of the Blast Status Effect (albeit not the sole source, funnily enough). While you've talked about player accuracy, would you considering going into accuracy in-depth for things like blast procs and EMP field alongside evasion and Titania buff?

[@francobuzzetti9424]

i love your videos mate! both your content and your way of speaking reminds me of battlenonsense back when he made videos on fps games :P

[@TheSclerotic36]

Felt compelled to hit that like button when you said 'sharks with frecking laser beams on their heads' 😆

[@TECHN01200]

Correction on the blast myth: Primed Cryo Rounds exists for rifles without any other primed elemental mods. Sure, shotguns have Primed Chilling Grasp, but they also have Primed Charged Shell for electric.

[@m3tal.]

1:39 what is your amprex build??? I've never seen something like that before

[@TheKengineer]

Those are level 1 enemies for demonstration purposes only.

[@tlhpr0vidence579]

For myth 5, blast damage also has a bonus against robotic health, i.e. corpus moas and bursas after you take out their shields.

[@MrKoutsuko]

Myth: oxium farm on one tile. There's a Gas city tile that you can interact with some structures, if you do so, it will allow you to destroy some stuff to get oxium, there's 4 structures and each can give 4 oxium drops.

[@Dancenorigins]

i remeber a really long time ago in the simulacrum i got a singular detonite ampule as a drop.probably from some de spagheti math where they simply reduced the rate the default resources drop to nearly 0 but not entirely 0

[@misteranscho5217]

For some reason i am most interested in what mods are used on trinity during the intro part ^^ i tried to get into trinity myself recently and am looking for mod ideas

[@femthingevelyn]

I can attest to the drop protection not existing for nekros even before with the keys, because I once used 36 assassination keys for lephantis and only got chassis, a clan member ended up buying me nekros because she was tired of doing lephantis

[@BobVonBob]

Is there a reason you didn't mention primary rifles in the Lephantis blast damage section? Primed cryo rounds + hellfire is the same damage boost as primed heated charge + deep freeze and primary rifles don't have a primed electricity or toxin mod. Have I missed something else?

[@miinpajamas6680]

This is the first time ive seen a sponsor of a video and was actually intrigued lul

[@FirstnameLastname-rl4qi]

It's purely anecdotal, but I remember getting multiple of the same Nekros parts back when you needed a key

[@Wabinator]

In ESO on one of the Eris maps there is a box that spawns in a hanging container that drops like 20-30 credits when smashed.

[@milokiss8276]

I use blast on my Cedo purely for the flat damage it gives. Blaze and Chilling reload, With the 60/60s, And thus it is mostly just to barrage anyone down from range- It’s primary use is it’s alt fire, Applying tons of status procs for my C.O. Cerata.

[@matthewhanzo5736]

Merry Christmas Ken have a great holiday and look forward to future vids o/

[@quintessenceoflife7870]

7:18 I now know why the convectrix is so fucking deadly.

[@ВалерийМихайлов-Вознюк]

I have a question, If you throw ashe's shouriken(with augment) into zephyr's tornado, will it strip armor of all the enemies in that tornado? I wanted to give ash zephyr's tornado ability for some cc and thought about this possible synergy

[@George_M_]

No. Though generally that'd be unnecessary, since tornados are so good, damage wise. If you need a strip for tornado use, use an AoE like fire blast or Pillage.

[@noahedenborg4221]

​@@George_M_don't use fireblast why 1 it has a strip cap 2 can only strip if an enemy can be knocked down 3 can't strip if enemy is knocked down

[@Votrae]

Came for practical problem solving, thumbs up for sharks with frickin laser beams on their heads.

[@arbit4468]

As someone that just built a Gaze primary kitgun, the "no multishot on beamsplosions" thing is extremely upsetting. Does this effectively reduce status chance on enemies hit by the explosion as well?

[@joshuaosgood6494]

For #2, there is an infested corpus tileset, with a moving crate on one half of the map. It has 2-3 breakable chests. Found out cus it dropped a star.

[@jaredwhy4]

There’s a Jupiter tile in sanctuary onslaughts that has containers that drop oxium when destroyed too

[@mono_si]

Consider: If you build for armor strip, blast is neutral on most things, and awesome against corpus robot HP and ancient infested HP. I use it to kill those types of eximus on steel path.

[@Commandelicious]

Myth 2: You can also get oxium from the one corpus tile with the four extractors. :)

[@SignificantOwl]

Regarding myth 2: There is a tile, I'm fairly sure it's one from Eris, where there's a sort of free-hanging shipping container-like thing that usually has resource containers in it. It's random and extremely minimal, but it does drop stuff. At least I'm sure I've received stuff from it - including an ayatan or two, over time.

[@pikelboi9674]

Myth: does proteas dispensary count as healing someone with an ability to the archon mod that increases your strength when you heal an ally with an ability

[@noahedenborg4221]

No since it's a health orb and not direct actual healing

[@ThePopeOfAwesomeness]

I actually learnt something here ha I've been playing this game since almost the beginning yet I'm still surprised. The MIGHTY SEER is best for taking out the thumpers

[@RBRSC]

Uh for the Blast one, primaries can use Primed Cryo rounds to also mod for blast damage higher then corrosive

[@Tito-qh7qy]

about the myth 2 on a certain titleset (infested corpus ship) i remmenber i found some little case with ferrite inside and. on one sature titleset, you can click a on ""réactor"" (idk) and if you shot it, it will drop exenon

[@tatsumiplays2625]

Myth 3 found out with the kuva nukor multi-shot just means instead of reflecting to 3 enemies it can reflect to 4 enemies

[@slingodeluxe]

I can tell you that lephantis did not do unique drops back in the derelict, I remember grinding keys for it and not getting one piece for a while

[@Wilveren]

Wow, that companion app is awesome, thanks for sharing. Gonna hunt Nyx Prime down now, because I had NO IDEA she was unvaulted until the app showed me. =P

[@dogma32]

pretty sure shes in railjack along with some other prime frame. she will never enter the vault unless someone else wants that railjack spot.

[@MemeMansion420]

For Myth 5, why not use Primed Charged Shell for shotguns to do corrosive? You’ll get a better bonus for the corrosive and it’s using a primed mod. I’m thinking, change the 1 shot archon Hek build to corrosive instead of radiation and that’d be better. Idk if the math checks out but I think it’d be better.

[@Sonacnights]

I greatly appreciate the Austin Powers reference. Also, as someone who grinded Nekros years back, I don't think that drop protection thing was ever legit. I had to fight him eight times because I kept getting the chassis. I remember being mad about that specific thing because I wasn't particularly well geared back then and I really wanted Nekros.

[@NorybVYemac]

In all the years I been playing warframe I have had endo drop 3 times while playing Elite Sanctuary Onslaught.

[@renstal7638]

100% downloading that add-on when I get home

[@LegendStormcrow]

I hate ow WF sorts prime parts by value on default. It's a small issue, but I hate having to swap the sort type EVERY time I access it. I myself have verified the Sanctuary Onslaught rumor, and it has a chance of spawning ayatan stars.

[@nertulagno1302]

About myth 2, some time ago I got oxium from corpus drons few times

[@aizenreducard8955]

Question in regards of multishot beamweapons... What about vermisplicer for exampel its a beam weapon but doesmt behave in a way that has been mentioned sofar or does it also just get a giant AoE sphere

[@DatMystery1]

About myth 2, I used to get oxium from enemies killed whenever they're killed too fast, by that I mean a mirage's 2 build. This was unusual before prey's update tho, nowdays it's not even possible as far a I know.

[@tomasdeschuyteneer9182]

you can mod higher blast on primaries cuz of the prime cold, only shotguns(and melee) have acces to corosive with primed mods

[@yeoldpubman]

Shotguns can build both, although at that point you're probably giving up crits to do it.

[@zombiTrout]

Myth: The more desperate you are for a primed part, the lower it’s drop chance will be. 100% true

[@stagnantfox3027]

The first Myth is sort of not even a myth. During a dev stream DE themselves said that they were thinking about making it as the myth suggested, however they also in the same segment said along the lines that the idea (and others) aren't set in stone. So it's more of a misinformation out of not keeping up with the updates notes.

[@singletona082]

Primed Cryo Rounds would combine for blast though wouldn't it?

[@melonetankberry5211]

hm in regards to myth 1 its origin could relate to back when you shredded corpses each part of the corpse would be lootable seperate with nekros. only slash weapons could tear corpses apart, hence slash based weapons with desecrate active would increase loot overall. but that was a couple of years ago.

[@Benzinilinguine]

I met someone recently who was CONVINCED that Frost Prime gave you an ephemera from lich, guaranteed. They were still convinced after I told them its just absolutely not how it works, at all.

[@yeoldpubman]

Sinew should be weak to Blast instead of resistant to it, at least then you could make a case for using explosives to crack heavy infested while also wiping out the swarm around them.

[@Dogtor_Orsum]

Myth 1 confuses me, because I definitely remember the ammo bias being mentioned as something they were considering to counter AoE spam. I don't watch a ton of Warframe discussion so I'm not really sure where I would have picked that info up from if not from devstreams? Or they just discussed it as a possibility but didn't implement it.

[@Nekufan1000000]

Possibility, unimplemented. They went with the whole ammo rework instead.

[@kindredbarkmaw2509]

Also a LOT of aoe weapons have a huuugely lowered pickup rate. like 1 pickup giving 1 ammo for things like the Kuva Ogris, but the base Ogris having way more ammo and ammo pickup, similar things with the Kuva and base Zarr. edit: spelling and added a Zarr example

[@ponyforhire]

That sponsor is actually fire

[@decoyoficial6011]

For myth 5, couldnt the non shotgun primaries get the superior blast damage since they have a primed cold mod?

[@Spambot27374]

I think de needs to make a change to the status effects of blast and impact where you could stagger or knock down enemies after enough stacks

[@potatogamerman]

for the blast against lepanthis one, im not entirely sure but doesnt max corrosive status proc grant the extra dmg required to beat blast anyway?

[@Grapplehook_Lemon]

Beam weapon multishot on the old phage actually makes multiple beans doesnt it? Maybe theyre just cosmetic Like how glazion gets a helixing beam from multishot

[@SanguineDoe]

Blast is also good for armor stripped Void Angels

[@KebradesBois]

In the same line of questioning, I was wondering if the weapon you equip with a veiled Riven influences what weapon it will be for once unveiled... it happened to me and some team mates quite a few times already...

[@TheKengineer]

I've found no correlation between the weapon a riven is equipped to and what it unveils as.

[@KebradesBois]

@@TheKengineer thank you for the answer...

[@turboyabo864]

the sencondry fire on cedo thats little knock back is blast damage right , then boom it stuns

[@ickunmatze]

For Myth 4: nope, can disprove that one. we got Neuro, chassis, systems, then 6x chassis since one of the group lost connection when the first systems dropped ... it took us like 20 runs to finish his set and we got like 6 chassis in a row and at least 2 or 3 neuros in a row once too. 😂

[@duoasch]

aleca frame has changed my life

[@Dikjuh]

"Don't rely on outdated information; Trust your eyes." Pf, poppycock

[@alexlotl4475]

could you perhaps show the amprex build if possible?

[@themrkingstone3990]

Please kengineer do it, i need that deadly power in my arsenal

[@alexthehopeless3778]

What about the plague star boss? Is blast better for that too?

[@msterforks]

Myth 5: Add void angels to the list for the same reason as tusk thumpers. An armor-stripped void angel takes the most damage from blast.

[@magmafeline8239]

Void angles are creepy

[@CHNO-kl9bn]

One myth i hear a lot is that you get more endo drops in sedna arenas when you have no primary or secondary equiped because ammo doesn't drop... i think its completely false because ammo has nothing to do with loot drops but i see so many people scream at me for having weapons that i started questioning myself. The only thing i could see is there being too much drops or something but i highly doubt it.

[@ShishouDzukiZaManako]

for nekros from back in the day i remember getting set after set but i did get dupes from time to time. to a degree it was the same with atlas but i know both were just luck in helping newbies.

[@forestor5790]

lephantis is buggy as crap so still pretty much useless. Was farming equilibrium and it wasn't taking any damage except from aoe weapons(glaive prime). The hit boxes were unreachable so despite having the damage to one shot it, it became a grindy mess. Pro Tip: Equilibrium can only drop from the first stage of the fight so aborting the mission if it hasn't dropped when the floor gives way is faster.

[@tqkf8878]

Ohhhh so that’s why you had a master thief Lavos during the last stream

[@TheKengineer]

Bingo!

[@17Qewasdz]

That necros myth is definitely a f****** myth because I had to go through their f****** 12 times just to f****** get necros.

[@dedoun3623]

About the third myth, didn't DE "fix" it and now beam weapons do have two beams like other weapons with multishot?

[@noahedenborg4221]

Idk prob not correctly

[@nicolinrucker5181]

Ok for Myth 3, why didn't you talk about the beam weapons that do have multiple beams?

[@AlfinNurMohammad]

The funny thing is I keep getting secondary ammo drop even I'm not using them when solo

[@Bracket_Man]

For myth 1, it probably originates from the priority of ammo mutation. It gives you ammo for the ammo you are currently using first

[@Mrwouter1231]

i was always wondering if the nuking frame get affinity charm from his kavat will the others also get more shared affinity on hydron or sanctuary?

[@noahedenborg4221]

I believe no

[@heavenlytacos1221]

i will go ahead and and tell you that the OLD lephantis definitely dropped the same piece back to back, cease.

[@MangoeSundae]

Am I tripping or did they remove being able to crit on Lephantis right now