I made an editing mistake at 2:37 - TITULE# should show a score of 12, not 68 (the previous turn of QI scored 68). Sorry about that and enjoy the rest of the video!
@rhandhom1 Жыл бұрын
Your Scrabble privileges have been revoked. lol jk
@theefficientguy72025 ай бұрын
7:26 the v says 4 on it.
@Will-uv9kx4 ай бұрын
Unforgivable.
@fluffyplayery3017 Жыл бұрын
You know, after watching all of these videos, I'm starting to get the impression that Nigel Richards is quite good at Scrabble.
@wanderer15 Жыл бұрын
He’s half decent! :)
@WoolyCow Жыл бұрын
@@wanderer15 hes got potential. maybe he should try play at some tournaments
@JamesCA Жыл бұрын
i too have been picking up on this
@UhOhTheStoveIsOn Жыл бұрын
@@wanderer15I’ve heard he’s underrated 🤔
@TheJohnStone Жыл бұрын
More than that he’s an alright player
@AmaranthRBY Жыл бұрын
That stat about endgame accuracy is truly insane
@wanderer15 Жыл бұрын
My brain broke when I first saw it.
@Raghy07 Жыл бұрын
@@wanderer15Mine too. Do you have a source for that stat?
@TheChumm Жыл бұрын
@@Raghy07 the video from Alex Dings linked in the description goes over it around the 32 minute mark
@wanderer15 Жыл бұрын
@@Raghy07 the source should be listed on screen at the bottom - but here it is as well. elbbarcs.com/en/EndGame/statistics.htm
@dtly50 Жыл бұрын
@wanderer15 If you are the definition of accuracy, then of course you have an inaccuracy of 0%. The 1% comes from the computer being unable to compute, even after the entire match is done. It's much like how a 100% accuracy game in chess is just stockfish, really.
@sgrey9181 Жыл бұрын
Passing in order to win is insane. Harshan was playing checkers, Nigel was playing chess, and the computer analysis was playing Rush-E
@almightyhydra Жыл бұрын
Or, in this case, don't-rush-F
@kobemurphy9023 Жыл бұрын
Actually they were playing scrabble
@jasonduvall9480 Жыл бұрын
rush-e? I'll have to look that up
@sgrey9181 Жыл бұрын
yooooo nice one!@@almightyhydra
@codetaku Жыл бұрын
@@kobemurphy9023 Nah that doesn't sound right, pretty sure this is connect four
@catalin2766 Жыл бұрын
Every single time I head anything about Nigel he just feels more and more like that character in an anime that the main character is desperately trying to defeat but he gets put into his place again and again. The kind of character that every time he puts a piece on the board the ground would shake and the such.
@eggperson17944 ай бұрын
No no, he IS the main character. We're just waiting for him to find the main antagonist
@BorisGamingChannel Жыл бұрын
Never thought zugzwang would be a thing in Scrabble.
@gromburt Жыл бұрын
However, unlike in chess, passing your turn is actually allowed!
@daravel5318 Жыл бұрын
@@gromburt Is that then a flaw in the rules? Could both players just pass infinitely?
@meta04 Жыл бұрын
@@daravel5318 nope, six passes in a row and the game ends with unplayed tiles subtracted from both sides' score, AJIAlRSs214 details a case where that actually happened
@gromburt Жыл бұрын
@@daravel5318 According to the competitive scrabble ruleset, if six turns pass without anyone scoring the game is ended
@hughparsonage4446 Жыл бұрын
@@daravel5318 Six successive scoreless turns ends the game.
@AlexDings Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the shoutout 🙂 I never even looked at the rest of the game, and the CHARD / BOK / NODE sequence is quite something. Like a chess sequence in a Scrabble game.
@verbosed Жыл бұрын
the most beautiful thing about this is that we still have room to improve in scrabble. harshan and nigel both overlooked this, but in the future the top players will not. there’s so much more scrabble to be played
@wanderer15 Жыл бұрын
Exactly - accurately identifying your opponent’s most salient threat and actively defending against it is very chess-like, and is even more impressive in the pre-endgame when the threats aren’t 100 percent clear.
@telph3223 Жыл бұрын
Zugzwang!
@ashbjorn Жыл бұрын
The vocabulary knowledge these players possess is beyond my understanding. Even when they "stumble" it's still mind-boggling what combinations they come up with.
@rhandhom1 Жыл бұрын
It must take years of studying.
@cukka99 Жыл бұрын
For most, it does. For Nigel, it takes a few weeks @@rhandhom1
@albingrahn5576 Жыл бұрын
I wonder how many words they know the meaning of and how many they just know are valid words.
@ronaldwayne7092 Жыл бұрын
@@albingrahn5576 For these players, knowing the definitions of these words uses valuable brain space that could be used to instead learn more words.
@TrondArneAusdal Жыл бұрын
Autecism! WTF!!
@Fratsy Жыл бұрын
I don’t know how I got on scrabble KZbin, but I’ve watched a ton of your videos. I’ve never watched professional scrabble, but I’m officially a Nigel fan.
@shinysparce3708 Жыл бұрын
I know we all love Nigel, but I want to appreciate your clear speaking and entertaining video setup. You make these videos so entertaining, so thank you!
@Sam-oz8pn Жыл бұрын
The production quality on these just keeps getting better 💯💯
@JJ-tm4zw9 ай бұрын
“Harshan answers with the lovely Autecism.”
@jansenmtan Жыл бұрын
0:50 1 Error/2.14 moves versus 1 Error/83.55 moves is insane!!!
@wanderer15 Жыл бұрын
It truly is bonkers
@DrDrao Жыл бұрын
If you look at the Alex Dings video in the description, quackle, the currently used scrabble ai, made almost 4 times as many mistakes as nigel when asked to analyze the same games. Unless you grant large amounts of time and computational power to brute force a mathematically perfect endgame, nigel is literally better than a computer.
@grantofat6438 Жыл бұрын
But is it an error to not make the best moves when you still win the game? Not in my book. Nigel is obsessed by making the perfect moves while others simply go after winning the game. It only shows that he does things that are unnecessary, not that he makes fewer errors. In this example video he could have played the word SADZA and won the game. Is that what would be considered an error if done by any other player, because they could have made more points with some other play? I would say it is an error to not play SADZA.
@cagey300 Жыл бұрын
@@grantofat6438 To be fair, it does matter. Point differential is very often used to break ties in tournaments.
@bomberr358 Жыл бұрын
Your channel is the sole reason I know anything about scrabble
@kenkiarie Жыл бұрын
I've got a fresh set of eyes for Scrabble thanks to you. Amazing
@palebluedotn7147 Жыл бұрын
The comparison of computer aided solutions to real life play in scrabble is so mind-blowing. Even with the computer aided analyses Nigel's play is so close to flawless. Something I felt early on in learning about scrabble play is that two letter archaic words were kinda dumb. And for scrabble play between native English speakers I still stand by that. But on an international scale I love that dictionary knowledge no casual speaker of a language should be expected to know becomes possible. A non French speaking champion of French scrabble is a challenge to scrabble players everywhere. Do you really understand the mechanics of this game? Can you execute them?
@wanderer15 Жыл бұрын
Well put. I do lament that the wonderful depth and complexity of Scrabble is gated behind word memorization, but it does also add an element of preparation that can feel rewarding for you if you’re inspired to put in that effort to learn.
@LRXC1 Жыл бұрын
This is my favorite endgame you’ve shown, I’ve never thought about snaking the letters at the end like Nigel did, and the idea that passing is the best play is so crazy to me! Wow’
@Maker0824 Жыл бұрын
That was an amazing explanation of that. You are a great storyteller
@wanderer15 Жыл бұрын
Thank you very much!
@henrysimonds4640 Жыл бұрын
These videos rock and I'm beyond hyped to see them in my sub feed every time
@wanderer15 Жыл бұрын
Hyped to make them for you!
@Firebringer121 Жыл бұрын
So I've been wondering why the YT algorithm recommended scrabble to me of all things, but I realized its because you use chess language a lot when reviewing these plays, and for whatever reason YT thought "eh close enough" and recommended it, so glad it did, this is really cool.
@emctwoo Жыл бұрын
Love the combo of video quality and top player analysis you provide. Having never even played scrabble casually, I can still follow what’s going on and have really grown an appreciation for its intricacies.
@wanderer15 Жыл бұрын
This means a lot to me, thank you
@gromburt Жыл бұрын
You're such a captivating storyteller. It's hard to overstate how valuable a great storyteller is to any community
@AlphaetusPrime Жыл бұрын
I love this kind of analysis
@aethie5 ай бұрын
Nigel looks like a wizard and lives up to it every bit
@stephenmooney-pursell9580 Жыл бұрын
Have been watching scrabble videos for years. So glad someone is now producing such high quality in depth analysis videos that are awesome to watch. Going to start studying again!
@zmaj12321 Жыл бұрын
The strategies you can deploy during endgames can get SO interesting!
@ChristianHegele3 ай бұрын
The ability to pass your turn at any time is an incredibly powerful endgame tool that is easy to underestimate. In games where there is a compulsion to move, a common endgame motif is to put your opponent in zugzwang, where any move they make worsens their position. What an incredible illustration of the power of waiting this scrabble endgame is!
@toaster7817 Жыл бұрын
Every time a new scrabble history vid comes out, I jump on it. I love how well constructed your videos are, while still being digestible and exciting for non-scrabble players such as myself. On top of that, an experienced scrabble champion making these videos makes it that much more engaging. Keep up the amazing work Will
@Druidy0 Жыл бұрын
I don't play scrabble much at all but I can't stop watching your videos. Great content.
@PPedroFernandes Жыл бұрын
Will: "the top 10 opponents do an endgame mistake every 2.14 end game moves" Me: Okay, that's reasonable... Nigel's a beast tho, let's say... Maybe 7? About 3 times better" Will: "Nigel does an error once in every 84 end game moves" Me: aight I'm out, peace ✌️ Bro, what in tarnation
@Andrew-bz4yo Жыл бұрын
born too late to explore the earth, born to early to explore the galaxy, born just in time to watch Nigel Richards play Scrabble
@wanderer15 Жыл бұрын
Will be printing this t-shirt as merch ASAP
@marek9741 Жыл бұрын
You really can't overstate how genius Nigel is
@duncathan_salt Жыл бұрын
I wonder how often passing your turn with valid moves is an optimal play? It can't be that frequent, but surely there are other examples of it. Has it ever been performed in tournament?
@wanderer15 Жыл бұрын
Very, very rarely, but it does happen. Another time you occasionally see this is when there’s one tile in the bag and a player has a bingo in multiple locations. If there’s tiles like the Q or V still potentially lurking in the bag that might not be playable, passing your turn to avoid being stuck with them can be correct.
@stevegrob9840 Жыл бұрын
It can also happen when a player is trying to invoke the six consecutive zero rule to end the game.
@thomas_delaney Жыл бұрын
These videos are so fascinating - great work
@Ambigious5 ай бұрын
Wonderful. Scrabble has for some reason suddenly started intriguing me so much!
@zalibecquerel3463 Жыл бұрын
I wonder if the potential pass by Harshan would be considered a Zugzwang (an unlikely scrabble word requiring both a Z and a Blank).
@jasonanno3073 Жыл бұрын
Absolutely
@qqw743 Жыл бұрын
I speak English pretty well and I play Scrabble very casually. Of the words played on this board, I don't use and could not define titule oleine pia qi (well, I use it in Scrabble constantly), gatelegs, mooli, ne, oe (Scrabble word), yu, autecism, bredrin, bok (without choi) hin, recheat, flawn. I haven't done the precise math but I'm trying to say that about half the words are not in common parlance. So my question is: to what extent is a popular game still a popular game when special study of a dictionary is not merely a helpful plan, but the only way to win? By analogy: I play reasonably mediocre chess. Every move a grandmaster makes, I understand. I may not know the reason it's being made, but they use the same pieces I do and move them exactly as I do. Of course it takes special study to gain grandmaster status, but the game is all there, all fair. Anyone can win, theoretically. When I watch these Scrabble grandmasters, I think "Well, I wouldn't have thought of any of that, so I guess I'll just be the dog watching tennis. Back and forth it goes." I say all this not out of bitterness but to offer for discussion.
@woobackwednesday2299 Жыл бұрын
Scrabble isn't about spelling long words. It's a game of area control where you try to maximize points by putting letters at the right spots while preventing your opponent from doing the same (and maximizing your chances of doing thus through word knowledge, tile-counting/tile spread awareness, and knowing which letters commonly go together). All knowledge of obscure words does is minimize your chances of wasted turns and maximize your control over the aforementioned area control aspects of the game
@Charles-yi3mx Жыл бұрын
It is true that Scrabble players spend much of their time learning obscure words (a grandmaster like Scrabble will know all or almost all of the words in the dictionary 8 or fewer letters long), but there is still a lot of room for strategy beyond knowing obscure words. If you want an example, watch Will Anderson's video "The Greatest Scrabble Player Ever is Underrated", where Will analyzes a game where Nigel played mostly common words.
@wanderer15 Жыл бұрын
This is a really great point that speaks to a big difference between Scrabble and chess, and I do think it’s a shame that much of the good stuff about Scrabble is gated behind that barrier of dictionary memorization. I have plans to do some videos in the future about this very topic.
@qqw743 Жыл бұрын
@@wanderer15 I'd love to see that video. I wonder if there could be a Scrabble variant that limits the vocabulary to a common parlance dictionary. There would be pros and cons, but it would avoid the gatekeeping of memorization.
@VogonPoetSA Жыл бұрын
I really enjoy playing Words With Friends, where memorization of words is far less important than in Scrabble because (1) you can only play valid words (trying to bluff people with fake words isn't a thing) and (2) you can play around with putting your tiles on the board in various places and the game will tell you whether you have a valid play or not. So vocabulary has a much smaller impact on winning and strategy is correspondingly more important.
@joshcoughx Жыл бұрын
I never thought I would consider someone playing Scrabble a badass. But here I am.
@wanderer15 Жыл бұрын
Nigel is absolutely a badass and I'm very glad to be able to convince others of that fact!
@joshcoughx Жыл бұрын
@@wanderer15 I'd like to see more videos on his best moves, or best defensive moves, or moves that frustrated his opponents the most :)
@Zadck1 Жыл бұрын
This ended up in my feed and is my first exposure to even the concept of competitive scrabble. I'm pretty fascinated now. Great video.
@wanderer15 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for giving my video a try!
@WilliamKiely Жыл бұрын
Lurkers, I'm a non-Scrabble player who recommends commenting and subscribing! Ask your curious questions and Will will respond insightfully! And his videos are consistently high quality. I would have missed this one had I not subscribed and been ignorant of the best Scrabble players' incredible end-game calculation abilities.
@WilliamKiely Жыл бұрын
Will, my question for you this video: How much time do these engames last? Specifically, what's your estimate of how quickly Nigel found his endgame plan from the start of the endgame (when he could infer his opponents remaining letters) to when he played that s-hook? Seeing games on your channel and Mack's in which he plays the whole game in 15 minutes (as opposed to my amateur 90-minute games) and still manages to find so many of the best moves makes me super impressed by the speed with which you all are able to find all these words.
@wanderer15 Жыл бұрын
First off, thank you so much for such high praise! One huge factor I neglected to mention here is that Nigel almost always gets into the end of the game with 10-12 minutes on his clock to think. Many players, even other grandmasters (myself included), routinely get to the endgame with much less time than that to think. Sometimes, as the player going second in an endgame, you only have one move to calculate, and it’s your opponent who will need to calculate a multi-turn sequence. But if you’re the player “going first” in the endgame, so to speak, you’ll have to do some trial and error of some candidate sequences, which involves seeing your best moves, seeing your opponent’s best moves or responses to your specific move, and then seeing your best followup with your remaining letters. It’s a lot, and I typically only feel comfortable if I have something like 8-10 minutes out of my original 25 to make my best attempt at an optimal solve.
@wanderer15 Жыл бұрын
Oh, and Nigel has a terrifying knack for solving even complicated endgames relatively quickly. I can’t speak to how long precisely it took him in this particular case, but it’s exceedingly rare to see him take a ton of time.
@WilliamKiely Жыл бұрын
@@wanderer15 Very helpful answer, thanks!
@ZahraIsMyDog Жыл бұрын
They really do all this with a 25 minute clock?!
@wanderer15 Жыл бұрын
Scrabble is weird this way. Some games aren’t too hard to play well in 25 minutes. Other games are devilishly complex and the 25 minutes is a major limiting factor.
@ltsjack6 ай бұрын
That statistic for # of mistakes per end game move is just beyond mind boggling
@redreoicy6698 Жыл бұрын
In fact I'm surprised Harshan didn't pass when he was going to become stuck, with two equally good options. He doesn't get any benefit from playing his last move early, and loses out on possible disruption. I guess it's just unfamiliarity with "stuck" endgames
@Charles-yi3mx Жыл бұрын
I would think it's also because passing is very rarely a viable strategy, so it isn't really something that you consider when you're coming up with moves. If there are still tiles left in the bag, you're always better off exchanging than passing, since there's no reason to pass up an opportunity to improve your rack.
@wanderer15 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, it’s a really, really rare situation. Also, I believe Harshan was slightly low on time towards the end of this game, which makes it even tougher to imagine a counter-intuitive possibility.
@redreoicy6698 Жыл бұрын
Although passing is rarely a viable strategy in general, in endgames where you are stuck passing becomes the best move very very often. Giving your opponent a free board is often worse than dropping a few points for not making your last move immediately. It's the kind of idea where if you are familiar with it you see it immediately, but if you aren't you may just not notice at all.
@muntoonxt Жыл бұрын
From a chess perspective, zugzwanging and saving up "passing moves" are quite common in pawn endgames. kzbin.info/www/bejne/pGSpppmoi9GnqcU Also, if your opponent can't block one of your plays, it doesn't hurt to pass -- you will have at least as many options as before after your opponent's next move(s) ...and in this particular endgame, more options. #hindsight2020
@woopstertv Жыл бұрын
Will is my favorite KZbinr no joke.
@Acesmcnugget6 ай бұрын
So as an Italian American I spit out my drink when you said that he played "mooli" - turns out it means something TOTALLY different than what it is colloquially used as in the community of NY that I grew up in... learn something new every day I guess!
@garys5175 Жыл бұрын
Very deep! Wow, great stuff, Will!
@louismyers8845 Жыл бұрын
Great video ( as always). Thank you for shouting out the alex dings video i`ll have to give that one a watch!
@dereklindman6914 Жыл бұрын
This is incredible storytelling. Thank you again for an amazing video!
@trentoncharlson5197 Жыл бұрын
As far as Alex’s alternate endgame sequence goes, after Nigel’s play of UN, what if Harshan plays off his F for 10 as you mentioned? If Nigel tries to set up the Z by playing SI (or just PI), Harshan can respond with PIX, blocking the ADZ setup. (If Harshan passes instead of playing off the F or X, I think Nigel can play SADZA immediately to win? I’m not sure if VAX was good at this point (not a collins player) but that would determine if Nigel can try playing AX after PIX to set up ZAX / ZA or not. If VAX is good I think this a win for Harshan, as I don’t see how Nigel can make up enough points with ADS remaining (SAD for 26 isn’t enough). Of course, I might be missing something. Thoughts?
@wanderer15 Жыл бұрын
I considered including this sequence, but opted to omit it for length. VAX was not good in CSW15 (the lexicon used in this game) so saving the X to block with PIX would still end up losing to the ZAX setup, but it’s a great idea and it would completely change the game if the lexicon were the most up to date CSW. (VAX is coming to NWL shortly as well!)
@washyourhands Жыл бұрын
Got a good laugh at me with BUT @ 5:54 , I knew it was coming and said but just before you 😂
@egonzalez4294 Жыл бұрын
God: Your brain be unrivaled in your game, you will see patterns beyond anyone's understanding, not even the machine will come close to you; you could revolutionize anything you want; what will you do Nigel?... Nigel: I don't like fame, I guess I will just play scrabble.
@chrisvisser-fee2631 Жыл бұрын
What has the algorithm blessed me with today, youtube? Competetive scrabble analysis? Why thank you.
@wanderer15 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for trying out my videos!
@gastonEGGS Жыл бұрын
I think competitive scrabble is the most insane thing i have ever seen
@Muzgrob Жыл бұрын
Another amazing video mate. Keep up the great work.
@wanderer15 Жыл бұрын
Thanks man!
@SBYAAS2 ай бұрын
I’ve been binge watching your videos I swear this is my type of content. New subscriber❤❤ sending all my love to you, 50K in no time
@2Siders Жыл бұрын
1:30 Let’s See Paul Allen’s Words
@ptyw. Жыл бұрын
I’ve never had an interest in playing scrabble but your videos are so well made and entertaining that I am now a fan
@wanderer15 Жыл бұрын
Thank you very much, this means a lot to me!
@ptyw. Жыл бұрын
@@wanderer15 i have a ton of respect for pro players you guys are insane!
@rondobrondo Жыл бұрын
Hey that’s funny, I have Autecism too! That’s why I like scrabble so much
@ThomasJohnHyde Жыл бұрын
Your narrative sense in these is !!
@romajimamulo Жыл бұрын
Your videos have inspired me to start playing Esperanto language scrabble (mostly solitaire) to learn more about the vocabulary. I know it's probably too obscure for a video on specifically Esperanto scrabble, but I think it would be interesting to hear about non-english versions of the game and perhaps advice if you wanted to try playing someone in a language you don't speak
@signbear99910 ай бұрын
Yeah... imagine Chinese scrabble!
@romajimamulo10 ай бұрын
@@signbear999 in theory, you could do it with romanization, but with the actual native characters... No way. However, Japanese does have Scrabble, several variants even (one hiragana/katana and one romanization based)
@soundrogue4472 Жыл бұрын
I don't even like Scrabble; I just watch videos like these to see what Nigel has been cooking up again.
@jman7826 Жыл бұрын
Very nice. Let’s see Paul Allan’s endgame play
@CXLP Жыл бұрын
I don't know really much about scrabbles, but I like watching your videos !And in bonus, I learn so many english words I didn't even know existed !
@alexdacat7052 Жыл бұрын
apparently i have no idea how to play scrabble
@anthonys3892 Жыл бұрын
Winning on the Za is goat stuff
@BenitoAndito Жыл бұрын
Growing Scrabble on KZbin 🤜🤛
@SG2048-meta Жыл бұрын
Hey Will, if you ever start doing your Better know a letter series again, I would love to see a video on the Y. Sometimes I love seeing the Y, sometimes I hate seeing it and I would love to know how to use it better.
@nathanialblower9216 Жыл бұрын
Love this channel!
@joshuaperry4112 Жыл бұрын
Very nice, let's see Paul Allan's scrabble win.
@wanderer15 Жыл бұрын
Legit lol at this
@crunchytoast6007 Жыл бұрын
Wait, that isn’t Microsoft Paul Allen winning one of the UK Opens right?
@wanderer15 Жыл бұрын
Sadly not! The Scrabbler is Paul Allan with two A’s, not an E. But…happily accepting all ultra-rich Microsoft founders to our community!
@09SURGEON Жыл бұрын
I wish Mr. Olaiya Kabir (aka Black Knight) could share with you an endgame he snatched from Mr. Nigel Richards. We heard Mr. Richards had to shake Olaiya Kabir's hand immediately he saw the unstoppable setup.
@wanderer15 Жыл бұрын
I'd love to see it!
@adedoyinjohnmaye7525 Жыл бұрын
This is an insane move
@noobiechessjxwyspl Жыл бұрын
I love scrabble and chess they have so much alike. Nigel is best in scrabble my favourite!
@funkyworms Жыл бұрын
I’m here for the unibrow.
@wanderer15 Жыл бұрын
Glad you spotted that :)
@Harrs2 Жыл бұрын
Is Nigel the VILLAIN of scrabble?!
@wanderer15 Жыл бұрын
He’s closer to a hero for me! But maybe a villain if your goal is to be the best player ever…
@jakeholmes9296 Жыл бұрын
Another great video! Love these.
@darcybourke5621 Жыл бұрын
I think watching these videos at 4am confirms i might have Autecism (2:19)
@shadowseeker112 ай бұрын
Doesn't your explanation of Nigel's mistake require him to make that play while knowing his opponent had an F in hand after just passing without playing it?
@socksygen Жыл бұрын
It's insane how many of these words are CSW exclusive
@ri10q44 Жыл бұрын
I love these videos, keep it up!
@wanderer15 Жыл бұрын
Glad you like them!
@ogorangeduck Жыл бұрын
maybe this video will inspire people to keep passing plays in their back pocket
@VladickHelms7 ай бұрын
Bro. There should be 2 different types of mistakes. A mistake, and something Nigel would consider a mistake. Because there is a difference. There is such a big difference.
@MarkBiesheuvel Жыл бұрын
What would happen if Nigel also passes his turn after Harshan passed? Would they be stuck in an infinite loop of both players passing?
@wanderer15 Жыл бұрын
Tournament rules state that any game where there are six consecutive scores of zero ends immediately, with each player subtracting the combined value of the unplayed tiles on their racks from their score. Harshan would easily win in this case. (I have another video, “Ever Seen a Scrabble Game With No Words?”, that dives into a particularly memorable application of this rule!)
@MarkBiesheuvel Жыл бұрын
@@wanderer15 Awesome. Thank you.
@degenerate82 Жыл бұрын
Awesome breakdown
@SuperCrabCraft5 ай бұрын
3:23 the unibrow on Nigel Is top edit 😂
@realteamwall Жыл бұрын
so is nigel the magnus of scrabble
@ronaldwayne7092 Жыл бұрын
To me, he exists somewhere on a continuum between Magnus and Bobby Fischer.
@Botanica946 ай бұрын
Regarding Nigel's alternative Z setup sequence (the one starting with 3M NU 2), what if Harshan plays 7E OF 10 instead and holds on to VX? In that case, he could block the PI setup with D12 PIX 12, and Nigel's best sequence of JA 9, DI/JAI 17 and SAZ/OES 45 (with Harshan playing C10 OX at some point) would lose by 4. It may very well be the case that SAZDA + IN is Nigel's only surefire winning path.
@wanderer156 ай бұрын
Looks right, nice catch!
@Ian07_6 ай бұрын
the problem with PIX, believe it or not, is that in blocking the Z bomb on the right it sets up *another* Z bomb on the left: nigel would play C13 DA +21, B14 ZA +60, and then drop his S for 13 points. i could be mistaken, but if i'm not, then nigel wins by a whopping 19 points in this scenario. instead, harshan should just play 13C X(I) +18, which leads to nigel winning by 4 (the same as in alex dings' sequence). also, if nigel plays SI instead of holding on to the S, then PIX is still suboptimal as nigel will have C13 (S)AD +13 followed by B14 ZA +63, winning by 5. as for the "best sequence" you mention, i'm assuming you got it using quackle's "ask championship player", which led me to a similar sequence (albeit with DI being played last to prevent harshan from playing out with DIV). it turns out that quackle only considers the top 50 equity plays when evaluating endgame moves. as such, it doesn't even consider the possibility of nigel playing D12 (P)I or 13C SI since they're both outside the top 50.
@fabilikesbutter9603 Жыл бұрын
2:39 you edited +68 points for harshan when in fact, he gained only 12
@wanderer15 Жыл бұрын
Yes, I swear I proofwatch these, but I somehow missed that. Good catch.
@fabilikesbutter9603 Жыл бұрын
:)@@wanderer15
@MikeAngri Жыл бұрын
With that pass possibility open, would all these end game moves for Nigel before ZA be considered blunders?
@wanderer15 Жыл бұрын
I think even the very first move of (AUTECISM)S could be categorized as a blunder as it essentially commits Nigel to the ADZ idea, which can always be blocked by FAD. The nice thing about starting by playing the N instead of the S is that you still have the 57 point SADZA in your pocket as a threat.
@kikolokopo_toys Жыл бұрын
This is the next chess equivalent. Just wait until it blows up
@pideperdonus2 Жыл бұрын
Petition for scrabble becoming a sport.😊
@wanderer15 Жыл бұрын
Signed!
@eliedangoor9249 ай бұрын
I love your commentary, Will !
@wanderer159 ай бұрын
Thank you very much!
@kamicausi Жыл бұрын
I'm not too well-versed in Scrabble's ruleset. But, surely, Nigel could pass in that situation too.
@wanderer15 Жыл бұрын
Six consecutive turns of no score (whether by passing or playing words that are challenged off) ends the game immediately, so Harshan would simply pass repeatedly, given that he has the lead. I made another video about a very interesting application of this rule here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/d3uscp-IiNhlZ5Y
@honorarymancunian74336 ай бұрын
You say he blundered, but maybe he factored in the odds of his opponent not spotting the passing opportunity? Furthermore, had his opponent passed the first time, would Nigel not then realise he knew, and counter accordingly?
@wanderer155 ай бұрын
In order to prevent games from continuing infinitely, there’s a rule that 6 straight turns of zero score ends the game, and unplayed tile values are subtracted from each player’s rack. So for that reason, Nigel passing back would simply be met with another pass by Harshan.
@RandomPerson-fg1jf5 ай бұрын
The idea that he factored in the low probability of Harshan finding the winning idea doesn't make sense because Nigel had a much clearer way to guarantee a win, regardless of what Harshan did. You don't give up a guaranteed win for a situation where your opponent has to find a really difficult idea to win. Your win percentage goes from 100% to less than 100%. Whatever you think the chance of Harshan finding the idea is, it makes SADZA the better play. Also, as said in the video, once Nigel plays (P)I, his only way to win is to get his Z setup, so if Harshan finds the passing idea, Nigel can't counter accordingly because there's no other way to win.
@way21337 Жыл бұрын
What happens if Harshan does pass there? Nigel can also pass, yeah? When is the game forced into a tile reveal to end the game? Is it three consecutive passes? Nigel could also take advantage of passes here, potentially in his favor, right? While Harshan has FV, Nigel could pass, play once, then force Harshan to pass/pass, no? Would love to hear your thoughts, Will.
@domino14 Жыл бұрын
the game ends after 6 passes and then the players both lose the values of the tiles on their rack. since Harshan is way ahead, he would win.
@wanderer15 Жыл бұрын
So the rule here (which I touch on in my “Ever Seen a Scrabble Game With No Words?” video) is that 6 consecutive turns of zero score immediately ends a game, no matter what point of the game it is. When this happens, players subtract the values of their leftover tiles from their score. So, given that Nigel is already far behind, passing is not viable for him here - he would just lose the game by even more after getting dinged -10 points for his Z. On the other hand, Harshan is definitely in position to be able to pass - he’s up, and he’ll easily win if Nigel tries to pass back repeatedly. He can simply wait Nigel out until he is forced to play and attempt his setup, which, after (AUTECISM)S, Nigel is absolutely committed to pursuing.
@Im_helpless Жыл бұрын
Didn’t know there was a U in Coventry the more you know
@davidmoore1253 Жыл бұрын
"The only winning move is not to play."
@bakingsoda66265 ай бұрын
Harshan could also play (QI)F(FLAWN)* after (P)I, which has the same effect but funnier
@janrl16 Жыл бұрын
At 2:39 you accidentally put +68 instead of +12. Nice video tho!
@wanderer15 Жыл бұрын
Drat! I swear I proofwatch these many times! Nice catch. Must’ve come from the QI turn.
@urkokrause7472 Жыл бұрын
This videos are way too interisting! Keep it up dude!