Star Citizen 3.23 - 20 Minutes More or Less Ship Review - AEGIS REDEEMER

[@EvenLease44]

Starting with this review, we will have 10 minutes more or less reviews, 20 minutes more or less reviews, and review of the titans. These titles will be hopefully help know the time commitment you'll need to get the details I share. Thanks for watching and hope you enjoy!

[@El1qt]

Is there really much of a difference between the 2? I feel like there is only so much you can cover

[@CMDR_MURR]

​@@El1qt he gets excited sometimes and finds more to cover 😂❤

[@realtimbotube]

Honestly bro, SC has no life left in it. CIG seems to be intentionally killing off their player base to make it easier to file bankruptcy and walk away with backers money. It's coming soon. Good videos, otherwise. Maybe a less scandalous company/game will grow your channel more o7

[@leeproffitt69]

I’ve been watching some of your ship reviews and I’m watching the one on the Redeemer, I don’t think you understand the concept of multi ships, there’s been several ships, especially the bigger ones where it’s always you can’t remote control these turrets again I don’t think you understand the concept of multi ships and they’re designed to have multiple people on them and they’re not designed to be flown by one person what part of that concept you.

[@EvenLease44]

@@leeproffitt69 totally understandable but they’ve always had the idea that even on this multi-crew ships you could get AI crew members or blades to control certain aspects. It’s not always needing a fully human crew.

[@sirberticus3815]

BuzzCutPsycho made a good observation: The Corsair has more firepower when flown both solo as well as fully crewed, is faster, more maneuverable, and carries way more cargo, ... for a cheaper price. Yikes !

[@piedpiper1172]

TFW you are a dedicated flak boat in a game the devs never got around to adding flak to 😔 The Redeemer is the clearest example of why multicrew will never be viable on the model of one person per turret. It absolutely must have all of its turrets converted to remote, and each gunnery station needs to be able to control any two turrets via a Freelancer 2003 style turret mode. (The gunner’s view can be projected on the player’s visor via the same tech the Talon uses for its cockpit, or what ever in universe explanation they need). Ofc, the Redeemer also needs more dps. All of its turrets need either more guns or to go up a size (4x S5, or 2x S6). If you think that sounds like too much, don’t forget 4x S5 is just… one Corsair lol. To justify getting out of a Corsair and into these turrets you have to at least match the dps. If we don’t start balancing multicrew around the actual human experience of being crew (aka: justify getting out of your personal F8C or Corsair and getting into your buddy’s Redeemer) then we will literally never see the ships be viable. Balancing ships this way will finally make multicrew viable, instead of people spending a thousand bucks to be alone in their Idris, we should actually incentivize people to get onto the thing.

[@Rob43955]

Yea but it’s Drake.

[@dwminiboss511]

and half the shields and cant do sht when it gets parts are shot off. redeemer has all the shields and all the hp. if you get shot you just dont care. i fly the redeemer with 2 friends and it slaps.

[@Rob43955]

More firepower on paper maybe, but the big guns are all pilot controlled on what is still a fairly an unagile ship. A crewed redeemer is blasting at all angles.

[@Marlax-101]

i would counter with, the redeemer is more compact meaning more firepower in a smaller area for carriers and fleets. its more of a helicopter for ground missions and area denial and likely is better made for hovering around poi on the ground. missiles are most likely to kill ground targets or scare off fighters in the airspace while it does its job. one of the main debates i have had with people when it comes to cost value, many say that bigger ships should cost more money so why would you buy a small ship. My answer is simple, i can fit 4x those small ships in the same area on a carrier. i am paying for the flexibility and convenience.

[@solomonmitchell6048]

The redeemer is so pleasing to the eyes it reminds me of something Batman would fly in. People solo this ship for the HP of it. And is effective against AI opponents just fine

[@KidInTheHall28]

I love this ship. I fly it solo and I pledged her. My favorite daily driver.

[@slashsf5467]

Fantastic job as always man! Your intro music is always on point, and the detail you get into is so insightful!

[@TheBadRandolph]

20 minutes 😂 Clever! Now there's no feeling bad for overrunning. Thanks for the great review and have a good one ;)

[@solomonmitchell6048]

It's not recommended but I solo this ship because it's beautiful

[@slashsf5467]

Likewise lol I mostly play solo, and that BIS paint is too beautiful not to fly!

[@jinxedjuno]

can’t wait for the update to this review. i hope they make the manned turrets remote since they’re only rocking s4 guns now, would keep the crew safer and look much nicer. get rid of that rear turret, upsize the front remote to s4 guns, make it pilot only and make the other two remote and this thing would be perfect. oh and add doors to the cockpit fr. needs to be separate from the rest of the ship. and honestly i’d rather them swap the floors around and just get rid of the escape pods. we don’t need them imo. they’re useless if i have to go down a ladder to get there anyways. make the seats all eject or something and call it a day. they could add a seam across the top of the cockpit and just eject the whole thing in pieces.

[@russwhitfield5259]

that slaved remote turret is dumb , i always felt they should redesign that seat for a dedicated radar and maybe missile operators station since no-one is manning it to take pilot dps away , plus shes just not heavy enough for the sluggish flight , a mole is heavier and more manouverable! she was fine as she was, the cost for that power was always needing multiple crew to be viable , now its right back to the one person one ship mindset. Hopefully she'll see some love again

[@Chronoclysm17]

Great review. Love this series. Keep it up!

[@novalis791]

I quit flying the Redeemer when small missiles were killing the occupants; but leaving the ship intact - circa 3.22. I hope one day a fully crewed Redeemer will be much more formidable than a solo Corsair.

[@Karl_Reyes]

I think there is a role for thus ship in its current iteration. The hints are there. It is an escort gunship for armadas. The intention isn't to hunt things down with the redeemer, its meant to have staying power. In a large armada type fight, the target (for the enemies) would be the carriers & destroyers... thus leaving the redeemer to do its thing. Personally, I've been soloing this ship for 3 days. It has been fantastic. I do bounties on it & fight off cutties all the time. I also make quick work of reclaimers.. or whatever comes my way. I multicrewed it with 2 other people and my goodness we were slappin. Switched all guns to attritions though so we don't have to worry about ammo. I agree with your assessment of bed placement and the useless jump seats. We could have had the hab upstairs & 5x the cargo. I'd also prefer one other entrance - but hey.. for now, im enjoying it as my pledge.

[@anthonyrjoyce]

Love the honest reviews

[@novalis791]

I daydream we could have a ship similar to the Redeemer that was more agile and swift; like Airwolf lol. I watched old stock footage used in the Airwolf TV show and this is what I'd want from a ship like the Redeemer lol.

[@joelmulder]

I cannot believe they don’t let us slave the turrets to the pilot seat when they aren’t manned. Seriously, it’s not a technical limitation, and it’s not like these turrets can’t aim anywhere the fixed forward guns can.

[@AlexandreParchomenko]

yeah, interior design is always a mess in ships, beds in the strangest locations ... (thinking about the Spirit and Hercules and Carrack more precisely)

[@HaayNL]

@EvenLease44 Love your ship reviews and the fun you have describing all the good and bad details. Please do the Aegis Vanguard Warden next! 🙂

[@Marlax-101]

been awhile since i have been in the redeemer but i think it was 3 or 4 crew for minimum use. say 3 for main guns. puts it on par with the cutlass black with more hp and simular missile payloads with more seats for carrying passengers. 4 beds 4 jumpseats and all the extra gun seats up front. special ops

[@MidKnight2142]

I was actually gifted this ship after people in global chat were giving me a hard time for having 'Redeemer' as part of my character name and not having ever flown this ship prior. I LOVE this ship, I typically play with 1-2 other players, and when we are not salvaging we are typically in the Redeemer doing combat missions, or we were, prior to master modes. Does the Redeemer still have the issue that if you leave the pantry door open on the bottom deck, that the contents will fall out, bounce around and destroy the ship? I remember that used to be a problem lol.

[@FoxVelox222]

Its been riddled with issues in recent patches. Guns being blown off with shields up, nose extra weak, falling through the floor, exploding if people touch anything in the fridge, etc. Still keep it hoping itll get its pass someday haha

[@realtimbotube]

I predict CIG will be filing bankruptcy, or making some real changes very soon.

[@nightdevil6666]

This ship is a beast. my crew having problems suffocating in turrets tho...

[@Matmat_307]

Great video as always

[@asmkalrizion7078]

Imo it'd make more sense if the redeemer was much more manueverable in atmosphere compered to other ships that are basically just bricks with engines. Meanwhile other ships may be more manueverable comparably in space creating an environmental balance.

[@diegomolinaf]

As far as I know, CIG is balancing armor (which is still not in thr game) by adding more hit points. I suppose that's why this heavily armored ship is similar to a Carrack in terms of HP.

[@schlagzahne6741]

But.... but Carrack is an anvil ship, king of brick ship making!!!

[@realtimbotube]

They aren't balancing anything. They'll just announce it and take your money.

[@solomonmitchell6048]

Evenlease is terrified of space toilets

[@wrextheblind3787]

Flys like a big brick but I really like this ship. Was really disappointed how 3.23 did this ship dirty

[@AltzillaSC]

Such a cool ship, wish I could rent it.

[@Uku123]

I wonder how well the Redeemer holds up after the big changes its said to have in a soon to added update.

[@PsyEm-p1j]

I hear you on this ship and many ships are being adjusted right now as they search for balance and that’s fine by me. Personally, I like the direction they are going. Solo’ing big powerful ships with lots of pilot DPS had to change at some point and nerfing manoeuvrability makes sense. Solo’ing this ship isn’t very good and I’m glad about that. If you want to solo a ship, get a smaller ship. I’d hope to see that once ships like these are fully crewed they become WAY more powerful and punch above their weight. I think the incoming turret buffs CIG keep hinting at will be the game changer here

[@realtimbotube]

Their hints mean nothing. They are the most dishonest game company in existence.

[@PsyEm-p1j]

@@realtimbotube haha yeah I understand that perspective. Either dishonest or incompetent …but they are getting there slowly. I think. 🙏

[@WaywardLone]

It has style! But dang... Do they ever abuse the substance of it.

[@Xialya]

Nice ship, but I can only wonder why the Redeemer is so expensive, compared to a Retaliator, being both a gunship built by Aegis. The Retaliator is bigger, faster, and has more functionality due to its modularity.

[@piedpiper1172]

TFW you are a dedicated flak boat in a game the devs never got around to adding flak to 😔 The Redeemer is the clearest example of why multicrew will never be viable on the model of one person per turret. It absolutely must have all of its turrets converted to remote, and each gunnery station needs to be able to control any two turrets via a Freelancer 2003 style turret mode. (The gunner’s view can be projected on the player’s visor via the same tech the Talon uses for its cockpit, or what ever in universe explanation they need). Ofc, the Redeemer also needs more dps. All of its turrets need either more guns or to go up a size (4x S5, or 2x S6). If you think that sounds like too much, don’t forget 4x S5 is just… one Corsair lol. To justify getting out of a Corsair and into these turrets you have to at least match the dps. If we don’t start balancing multicrew around the actual human experience of being crew (aka: justify getting out of your personal F8C or Corsair and getting into your buddy’s Redeemer) then we will literally never see the ships be viable. Balancing ships this way will finally make multicrew viable, instead of people spending a thousand bucks to be alone in their Idris, we should actually incentivize people to get onto the thing.

[@QuotidianStupidity]

This is a good example of a ship that wasn’t really thought out in terms of how to balance it out.

[@MeatSalad84]

I would love a redeemer but it's too expensive for me atm

[@NoleBuddy-ep3zl]

isnt the lower deck going to be modular in the future? i heard of a possible cargo module?

[@louhodo5761]

I am still waiting on an Aegis multirole ship like a Cutlass, C1 or Freelancer.

[@Thristed]

Hi @evenlease, are you taking PTU changes in consideration?

[@EvenLease44]

Hello! Yes with 3.24 nothing changes with the redeemer from 3.23.

[@FrazzleCat]

Redeemer looks like someone used office supplies to play a game of space ship. Two staplers strapped to a Chinese take-out lunch box.

[@darkside7109]

Great. Now I can't unsee that

[@Marlax-101]

i dont fully get the takeout lunchbox part but it looks like a helicopter with engines instead of propellers. its very simular to boss fight helicopters you see in many games. people say the engines are dumb and yeah sort of but there isnt many other engines that would look much better. it would also make sense the engines are unique since there are not many ships i would consider helicopters in the game.

[@trullin9326]

Hows this one going in 3.24.3 @EvenLease44? Think of IAE and (hopefully) AI blades in the future for solo play

[@EvenLease44]

I’ll be running another review on this ship here soon. Blades will be interesting!

[@trullin9326]

@@EvenLease44 Fantastic! Thank you! I'll be interested to see how they solve removing components from this too. That hatch just isn't going to cut it 😂

[@Weevil-Knievel1134]

My first multi-crewed experience was in a fully crewed Redeemer. Good times! 🫡o7🚀

[@artlife9563]

This is the largest injustice conducted by CIG to date. There is someone on the CIG development team who does not like this ship and is deliberately crippling it despite is costing $100 more than similar ships (Constellation, Corsair). This ship is in the game to rip players off.

[@Kaileris]

I eat redeemers for ERTs all the time

[@asog88]

I hope they fix it up though. I always saw the hammerhead as almost like a base of Arian denial and this as the ship to extend Arial denial Also, it’s basically a space ac-130

[@AllThingsKen]

the carrack is fast though what u talking about my man 1280 top speed

[@EvenLease44]

The carrack? No. Top speed is 1050 on the Carrack in nav mod. SCM it’s 140.

[@Sent-x8t]

Should be max the price of the much better connie.

[@timgodderis1918]

I can be wrong, but wasn't this a dropship ... not a gunboat ?

[@Raedon_VoGraza]

Initially, yes. But then it was competing for space with the Valkrye when it came to sq42. Instead of just leaving it as is for the PU, they forced it to be what it is now. Love my redeema, but man the layout is God awful.

[@Raedon_VoGraza]

At least that is what I've heard

[@timgodderis1918]

@@Raedon_VoGraza if you take 8 or 9 players on a raid in this ...4 as crew the rest as assault team ... all the numbers do make sense and would give real fun gameplay in the pu. Take some escorts with you as well and the numbers make even more sense. Dropships need to well armed and do not need to be fast. the 4 extra seats are for the assault team ... You can even cram more people in in.

[@kilamir]

Hey what is the name of that intro music?

[@EvenLease44]

The Drive by Kevin Macleod

[@kilamir]

@@EvenLease44 thx! (your vids are great bdw)

[@CptFugu]

It was great when it was launched. It was nerfed into incompetence.

[@EvenLease44]

I hear she got some love recently, going to give it another look soon!

[@CptFugu]

@@EvenLease44 I would call it hate. It got massive cuts in protection and firepower in exchange for returning it to a level of mobility similar to a freelancer.

[@EvenLease44]

Oh that doesn’t sound good!

[@kingofspades76]

CIG give me a Medivac Redeemer and my bank account is yours, let me fulfill my Trauma Team Dream

[@kira68200]

I love how people complain about the fact that a multicrew ship needs multiple people on it ... DUH !

[@BigBobBlazer]

That ship is dead to me. I melted it for the last time. Knowing CIG, they've neutered it in advance of them releasing some new ship that will be OP. They're not trying to balance the game, they're trying to make more profits.

[@SivohNagol]

They just nerfed it again... Gutted.

[@Sicon1976]

It is clear how CIG HATES this ship since the beginning (the fan contest). Started as drop ship and then a gunship, but too many turrets in a small ship is a problem for balance so nerf after nerf. Sadly another useless ship, no reason to put so many players in one medium ship like this, maybe NPC or blades could help, maybe....

[@realtimbotube]

Worst game company I've ever given my money to. They deserve all the criticism that they receive.

[@chx4268]

I love this ship sadly is slower than a hh I still dont know how or why😅(turning wise)

[@Blade5067]

i feel like a connie would desroy one of these

[@lsmttos]

For me this ship is ugly as fuck. Its a no ❌

[@BrianSmith-ql5nj]

Yip the engines kill it for me. They look stupid and out of place compared to all others.

[@realtimbotube]

Every ship in SC is ugly. They used to once have a good team of designers... like 7 or 8 years ago.

[@Kimi-Olisar]

o7

[@xiuhtezcatl8161]

the main thing is from 7:00 folks, before that just blablabla

[@EvenLease44]

Ouch!

[@tagged_sc_aka_pilotducky]

Really? Started at 0:00 for me.

[@Cam_Wight]

🙏

[@nachtfalke1146]

Using this ship only fully crewed. We do only pve with it, but every stupid pvper regrets if we go to self defence. The redeemer is slow yes. But all turrets manned... imagine 2 s5 and 2 s3 turrets facing at you right the moment you targeting a redeemer should you make run for your life

[@realtimbotube]

It's trash. Just like the rest of the game.

[@BrianSmith-ql5nj]

99% all ships have piss poor design. This is no different. Star citizen is a joke!

[@xiuhtezcatl8161]

its dead game, so dont buy it for cash

[@asog88]

How is it dead?

[@upaSilent]

yeah, for sure, bought it ingame, stands still in hangar, as I can’t find anybody to fly with, everybody doing salvage😂😂😂 Nobody wanna do some fun. But, redem is also good ship for deliveries

[@BrianSmith-ql5nj]

Star citizen is a joke!

[@davewills148]

Some original content would be nice, as opposed to repeating past efforts?

[@EvenLease44]

Due to the huge changes to ships from 3.22 to 3.23 that’s why these ships are getting reviewed again. My cargo hauling series is returning soon as well as my player bounty hunting series.

[@JL-rj9fl]

@@EvenLease44 I think it's good to re-review the ships over time for those new to the game, I'm glad you're doing that. It's nice to be able to send new players to more recent ship reviews/overviews.