There is New Evidence for Life on Mars with Kevin Hand

NASA's Perseverance Rover Discovers Potential Ancient Life Evidence on Mars
On July 21, the Perseverance rover collected its 22nd rock core sample. The team is now analyzing the data to explore various explanations for the rock's unique features. Could this be evidence of ancient Martian life?
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[@jamesmcclanahan4011]

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[@EventHorizonShow]

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[@thundy308]

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[@rocoe9019]

@@pazitor no one cares what you jack it to!!!

[@jonmichaelgalindo]

I love the thought of aliens spying on Mars and watching the rovers. These things are so damaged and falling apart, and they're so slow, and they keep overcoming impossible problems with crazy creative jiggling and misusing systems and just making do. Like, "These little iron and silicon organisms are fragile, always on the verge of permanent failure, yet obsessed with observation and sample gathering, relentless, and incomprehensively intelligent and creative. 😮"

[@ETSpaceRocks]

There is still some life left in Martian soil...!

[@mariusvanc]

Not very creative...

[@Bjowolf2]

"No one would have believed in the last years of the nineteenth century that this world was being watched keenly and closely by intelligences greater than man's and yet as mortal as his own; that as men busied themselves about their various concerns they were scrutinised and studied, perhaps almost as narrowly as a man with a microscope might scrutinise the transient creatures that swarm and multiply in a drop of water." ... " War of the Worlds" by H. G. Wells

[@desertdwellerpete]

@@jonmichaelgalindo cringeeee

[@ETSpaceRocks]

@@Bjowolf2 I can pack you up with that MR

[@ashleydavis9754]

Congratulations to Nasa and Perseverance teams, this is exceptional science that occurs barely once a decade/century - you folks rock!

[@EventHorizonShow]

We agree!

[@liamutcclan9633]

It’s only a matter of time before mankind find solid evidence that mars once supported life

[@EventHorizonShow]

This might be it.

[@ferengiprofiteer9145]

I gotta dollar says it'll never happen.

[@foxuploader]

​@@ferengiprofiteer9145 don't be a party pooper!

[@rickb06]

Perhaps once upon a time, Mars held humanity, or a distant ancestors of ours? Mars has ample visible scars of widespread catastrophes, from pole to pole. We can only imagine what untold events have transpired. Perhaps sometime soon, we can get our hands on some genuine pieces and parts of Mars, samples of atmosphere and some solid ice cores. My gut and nothing else tells me that Mars is home to much more than rusty rocks, biomass detection experiments have long since shown us that some form of life has or even somehow continues to exist, there are no other explanations for why those testing suites popped positive for signs of life.

[@stevenhetzel6483]

Either life is everywhere or we're a fluke, the evidence is preposterously stacked towards the latter. That is to say, I sincerely doubt it. And that's okay.

[@RedSiegfried]

And if they do confirm microbial life on Mars, they'll spend the next 100 years debating on whether it's from Earth.

[@anticksss]

@@RedSiegfried True, we won't know for sure until we get boots on the ground

[@puffpuffpass3214]

The answer would be clear if we could find fossilized remains. But if they are under 3.5 billion years old it's entirely possible it came from Earth considering the slim time frame that life was on Earth but water was also on Mars. If it's 4+ billion years old it's possible that microbial life got it's start in Sol on Mars and then got transferred to US. We could technically find out we are martian in origin in under 50 years.

[@JimmieFulton]

Could DNA analysis possibly identify a common ancestor between life on two planets?

[@420Khatz]

@@puffpuffpass3214Thats such a cool thought- I hope that's the case. Hopefully there's still life living under the surface that's well adapted to the dry and insulated conditions, just as there is here on Earth. Then we could look at it's genetics.

[@ZenZooZoo]

@@JimmieFultonnot from fossils obviously, but if it is found that Mars life has “DNA” at all would be a huge clue.

[@melgross]

It’s not evidence of life. We’ve been through this before, decades ago. It’s something that “could” be an indication of life. It could also be a result of inorganic chemical reactions, as every test so far, from older probes to Mars, has ended up being, despite initial excitement. I would love it if it did turn up to be a definitive piece of evidence of life. But getting too excited by this now, is premature.

[@ETSpaceRocks]

All this excitement means something!!!

[@michaelpettersson4919]

You make a good argument to get out there and take a proper look. A manned base with people digging for a few decades could perhaps provide a more definite answer. In my opinion, any place that could support life but has none should be seeded. That is unless life may arise on its own.

[@vashtivanniasingham6354]

I don't think life is only defined by what earth has knowledge of and what we see with our eyes is limited

[@melgross]

@@vashtivanniasingham6354 it’s a bit more technical that that.

[@ScoriacTears]

40:46 Yes, thank you for coming on Event Horizon and talking to John Michael Godier Mr Hand, very interesting information you are appreciated.

[@anonymusmuggle]

Am i alone in the realization that this moment might just be one of THE most historic moments of human civilization, as we might - only might - have just made our first naive "contact" with alien life? It feels so strange and beautiful to witness this.

[@archmage_of_the_aether]

While simultaneously building unnecessary Great Filters for ourselves here on earth.

[@ETSpaceRocks]

I know this FACT from 28 of February 2021!!! I had a lucky chance to find main mass of "PARENT Stone" If you know what I meant...

[@djunclephill422]

You will know when you see yourself. I did 😂

[@FMDD168]

We made it at Roswell, 1947. And Humanity is an inferior Galactic race.

[@DiscipleJohn1]

You're not alone brainwashing is rampant the misinformation the speculation it's incredible

[@itheuserfirst3186]

If it turns out that it has, or had microscopic life, then it's probably exists in a lot of other places

[@jondoc7525]

Not really by firmed from the same frsp we did which makes the chances higher imo

[@ETSpaceRocks]

They know this from early 1940-1960!!!

[@mackenziecolt]

It absolutely would modify the variables exponentially in the Drake equation

[@mackenziecolt]

@@ETSpaceRocksdude has a whole website dedicated to calling out nasa on this who was part of the 1960s team

[@vashtivanniasingham6354]

I mean define life because the sun is alive technically

[@TheMartian4u]

I believe if NASA hadn’t dug itself in this hole for so many decades, they would’ve acknowledged at least that there is signs of life from the past on mars long ago. There’s always updates like “potential microbial or evidence of salt water” hinting but never just outright admitting that they’ve came to this reality about mars years ago privately

[@CaliforniaBushman]

Clearly, the Ingenuity, Perseverance, and Curiosity lies squarely with the incredible JPL team who actually built them. Then repairs them in the field from millions of miles. And, with Voyager 1, Billions of miles away.

[@robertlussier2944]

Are we going to be around long enough to recover those Mars samples? THAT is a question we should be looking for the answer to.

[@markmiller6402]

Can the yanks even get their astronauts back from the ISS?

[@michaelcox1071]

I've made hundreds of dives to the bottom of the ocean. Just the shallower spots...

[@michaelpettersson4919]

Just outside the beech?

[@JamieSwitzer]

Now the race is on between Venus and Mars, which planet will we discover life on first? (not counting the numerous moons which have potential life on them)

[@michaelpettersson4919]

Current life on Venus is unlikely unless it's something in the atmosphere. Having said that imagine landing a probe on Venus and find something that proves that life USED to exist there.

[@camerontatro9447]

​@michaelpettersson4919 life on venus would very much be Like pelagic ocean life. Possibly diversity in different layers of the atmosphere. And it could have been ground based billions of years ago and free floating microbes could have migrated to the upper atmosphere. The only thing that would be tough is venus is extremely lacking in water. Yes there could be a form of non water based life but it's highly unlikely. Maybe a form of bacteria that is able to produce water internally. And it can pass through a food chain. Much like the nitrogen cycle on earth etc. Imagine blimp like macro organisms on the top of the food chain. How fascinating that would be

[@senecaflint6853]

I appreciate how optimistic Kevin is that we’ll be able to complete a mars sample return mission soon. Unfortunately, it’s increasingly looking like we’re probably decades away from seeing a pristine mars sample on earth

[@JonnoPlays]

This news rocks. You see what I did there? 😅

[@RyanMacWee]

I’m super curious what alien life actually looks like. I’ve heard people say that it could be very different from life on earth, but my weird theory is that due to convergent evolution it could actually look very similar to life on Earth. For example I think all fish in the universe have fins, all birds in the universe have wings, all primates have hand/feet things to climb trees. And that the drivers of evolution would cause life to more or less look the same I also think only primates can become technologically advanced since if we were underwater we could not discover fire, if we were birds we could not manipulate objects in complex ways…really only primates can become technologically advanced. I really think aliens will look a lot more human than people expect But of course it would be cool to be proven wrong, it’d be cool either way

[@jkirch264]

I would expect discovery of very similar life only if the conditions are exactly like Earth's. Birds on any planet all have wings or they'd be called something else. I can imagine a jellyfish like creature moving through a gaseous atmosphere with the right conditions, or even fish-like creatures in a gas if they were extremely lightweight. They could possibly absorb energy through their skin like photosynthesis instead of eating like all animals do here. The possibilities are almost endless with our current knowledge. Earthlike places are probably extremely rare but that doesn't exclude the possibility of abundant life throughout the universe under wildly different conditions.

[@Liquoricilicious]

Centaurs or slugs. All you need is arms

[@RyanMacWee]

@@jkirch264 I agree about the air jellyfish there could be some weird life out there for sure. Ok I give up my above comment

[@madmattdigs9518]

You might be mostly right. But depending on conditions on other worlds, evolution would be different depending on those conditions. But I tend to agree with you…

[@ThatGuy-bx4yi]

Actually to be respectful, I think the ability to understand long term consequences of actions on the immediate environment and events in the future would make a species able to become technologically advanced. Think of beavers, if they somehow get bigger, and develop a communication center in their brain that allows for complexity, those little shits would have destroyed humans had they competed along side the transition of mammals into primates.

[@FesteringGhoul]

I was JUST watching Cameron's Challenger Deep for the 2nd time (so inspirational) right around the time you uploaded this! Thanks, John!

[@rocoe9019]

Wow!

[@JohnnyWednesday]

I'm still holding out that our first evidence will be an alien mooning the rover camera

[@fortressgothika]

Or giving it the middle finger.

[@JohnnyWednesday]

@@fortressgothika - it'd be nice if they introduce themselves without too much panic. "Aliens exist and they think Star Wars sucks"

[@MrFu75]

@@JohnnyWednesday Ahh, like the golden age of Chat roulette?

[@Zerbii]

It would be smarter to return samples to the ISS or moon rather than risk our biosphere. It sounds crazy but we can't rule out the possibility of abiogenesis occurring on Venus, migrating to mars and then earth as and when the atmospheres allowed. We have containment concerns in near earth, returning samples from foreign celestial bodies is kinda insane.

[@rogerphelps9939]

@@Zerbii Probably not possible. A change in velocity is required at the end of the journey back from Mars. For the moon that has to e provided by rockets burning fuel and there won't be anything in the mass budget for that fuel. The same goes for a rendezvous with the ISS. For the Earth, however, atmospheric braking will do the job, in just the same way that it has been done many times before.

[@horyzengaming3935]

There is an abundance of life throughout the universe. Its just not happening on our doorstep. So we will never know until we have the ability to look further. That is a long time from now. So for now, speculation we will discuss. Unfortunately none of us living now will experience the day of actually finding tangible evidence of life.

[@Lone_Star86]

Well life is so alien and vast on planet Earth but instead of being in complete awe of it we live our lives in the matrix till we die and don't actually live.

[@stephenfrench3888]

Interesting guess

[@Kendro311]

Finding remnants or possibly active life on another planet in our solar system would open up a wealth of explanations, knowledge or substantial clues to so many questions.

[@grindcoreninja6527]

I won't be around to see it, but I would find it equal parts incredibly disappointing and amusing if we find complex life in the universe, but much like SG1, they all just resemble something close to human. Almost as if the universe is trying to be creative, but run on a low budget.

[@pavel9652]

Evolution runs on a low budget, in a sense, and does things that are just good enough, with a minimum energy cost.

[@zapfanzapfan]

Ah, a present for Thursday night!

[@hrdowns9464]

Absolutely gripping talk. I can hardly believe humanity is actually doing this. 🙏🏽👏🏽👏🏼👏🏽

[@aragornii507]

So when are those samples arriving back on earth to be tested?

[@LS-pv4dh]

Depends, can we borrow a billion or 2. Ukraine n China kinda tapped our pockets some.

[@aragornii507]

@@LS-pv4dh Slava Cocaini ❄️❄️

[@CamronLocke]

Likely early 2030s

[@ETSpaceRocks]

We already got them in earth long time ago... just they want to be super sure before they tell US.

[@LS-pv4dh]

@@aragornii507 😭😭😭😭

[@entity_unknown_]

Too bad they abandoned the sample return 😂

[@dirremoire]

Ever watch the movie "the Andromeda Strain"?

[@michaelcox1071]

Originally, NASA said ESA would do it, which meant it wasn't going to happen. At this point, I'm hoping Elon sends an Optimus Prime to pick them up.

[@rocoe9019]

​@@michaelcox1071musk needs to be in prison and his obsessed fanboy should be publicly shamed

[@benjiunofficial]

@@rocoe9019 another unfortunate sufferer of EDS (Elon Derangement Syndrome). Many such cases!

[@pavel9652]

​@@michaelcox1071The guy in Spandex leggings from few years ago could have picked it up.

[@Sloshy_garage]

5:03 layers? Shrek? Shrek is life?

[@miran6341]

Nice🎉

[@stingray427man]

Whats the cost plus over-run fees for hardware and support 😂

[@muffelfluffel3966]

that was super interesting, thanks for this podcast!

[@DiscipleJohn1]

The keyword is perhaps perhaps this is sedimentary rock it's from volcanic activity

[@Apoplectic_Spock]

Here's Johnny! Looking forward to this one!

[@MJDP1840]

Don't worry about the mars sample return mission.....maybe if we ask REAL NICE, China bring them back for us. 😮

[@Adriaticus]

At least somebodies advancing humanity during our era of stagnation.

[@pavel9652]

Do you call Curiosity and Perseverance stagnation? How many rovers China delivered to the Mars or at all?

[@T.efpunkt]

Well, to bad the sample-return-mission budget was cut because it's way to complicated and expensive.

[@ETSpaceRocks]

The only thing what's left for US to discover is the actual exact location from where it come from... lol

[@l.j.krumenacker9802]

Very interesting discovery!!

[@EventHorizonShow]

It is! Thanks L.J.

[@76rjackson]

We are closing in on abiogenesis. A recent experiment using random bits of code demonstrated that snippets of code will spontaneously rearrange and begin self-replication. It's an emergent phenomenon of information. Now we need to figure out what the 1st molecules were that were able to encode information. Mt money is on amino acids 1st then nucleotides. Amino acids form easily.

[@nmart1n]

I hope this will encourage the government to invest more money (not less) in NASA.

[@jamesfowley4114]

NASA hasn't brought in votes like it did during the moon landings since the last landing. Don't count on increased government spending until it brings in more votes.

[@Liquoricilicious]

NASA has plenty of money, they need to spend it more carefully though

[@liam3104]

@@Liquoricilicious thing with nasa is they are too careful. dont get me wrong they waste tons of money also but they are kinda stunlocked into not making any mistakes so everything takes ages and then wastes tons of money. like jwst

[@tuomasronnberg5244]

​@@LiquoriciliciousDo they have plenty of money though? In 2020 US spent just 0.3% of its budget on NASA, which comes to about 22 billion. For comparison, net value of NFL is estimated at 20 billion in 2024. One sends probes to study the solar system. The second sends grown men to carry a pigskin back and forth on a grass field, yet both are valued to be equally worthwhile pursuits. It really shows where our race puts its priorities...

[@perryrhodan1364]

Great interview!

[@dantetomic7049]

Kevin explains thing’s very simply. Thank you Kevin and Michael. Very soon we will discover life in our own solar system ( apart from life on our own planet ) and then we will realise that there is life everywhere in this amazing Infinite universe.

[@mbj__]

Very interesting interview. Thx 👍

[@williamkacensky4796]

I guess as an accomplishment one would seek this path unknowingly that extraterrestrial visitation is already here. Knowing this since 1959 pains me because if civilian scientists would have taken this seriously and perform the proper research the technology and funds could have been appropriated to making friendly contact.

[@Exiledk]

I see. We have everything needed for life to exist and yet, no signs of life. How utterly unexciting.

[@QuantumIllusionStudio]

Podcast drop days are my fav ❤

[@prophetofthesingularity]

Great episode! New data and science like this episode are my favorite kinds of science shows compared to produced documentaries. I do love black hole documentaries, but you can only hear the phrase "With gravity that is so strong nothing escapes it, not even light" so many times without it getting a bit repetitive :)

[@ETSpaceRocks]

I wish they add some real stuff in Space documentaries...

[@brandonortega926]

Love the show and this episode. I have a quick question. Are the core caches vulnerable to Martian winds blowing them away from their location or being buried? My thoughts are, the longer we wait the greater the odds of losing the data. Yes, I realize the rover has the other cache of cores, however my thoughts are we spent so much money getting there. Wouldn't it be awesome if we came home with both core sets? Double the data.

[@alcrooks9095]

Man I didn't see no life when I was on Mars. I did find some really good smoke growing though 😁

[@ArtTaggerr-223]

In case of contamination, I’d rather see the samples be tested on the moon for life with a laboratory built specifically for that purpose.

[@thevagabondtree6426]

That opening image is gorgeous so epic it gave me chills finding evidence of life is so cool, are there crater lakes on earth? I’m so freaking glad more and more people aren’t buying that we are alone in the universe. I can’t wait to see our first alien biology , im so curious if life follows a particular pattern everywhere or if there is heaps of variation. There is almost certainly life underground but on mars. Count the rings of the trees count the craters of a planetary object

[@ETSpaceRocks]

Curiosity works you will find answers! x

[@humanitypeace1080]

Life is everywhere in our universe but intelligent life is very very rare .

[@patrickglaser1560]

We've yet to find it on earth...

[@liberty-matrix]

Once they find life on Mars, they'll find it everywhere.

[@Harrybrown4570]

There not going to let anyone know. They are so tightly bound in a cult of secrecy and silence they can never change Defund NASA There is nothing for us to see there that's the private business of NASA and it's holdings

[@helge666]

A bit off-topic, I'm always surprised when a science fiction author and futurist does not want to be part of that future. I'm both of these things, too, and I will see the future... or die trying :-) Anyway, as usually, exciting conversation! Thank you for the many hours of great content that I've listened to over the years.

[@robbleeker4777]

An other interesting episode.. Well done, you manage to captivate me everytime

[@noleftturns]

If life is found on Mars, traveling to Mars would be a one-way trip. The astronauts would not be allowed back on Earth if there is even a one-in-a-billion chance that a Martian lifeform could harm life on Earth.

[@againsteternity110]

Listening from South Africa! Thanks John and company!

[@ETSpaceRocks]

You are good of making baby's spread a word biaatch

[@balimbula]

Did the rover look overhead while it was sampling and see the saucers curiously watching it?

[@FrankJohnson-r3e]

Jeeze, he sounds like Alex Philipinco

[@naciremasti]

John, have you made a video on the ESO’s VLTI GRAVITY project that shows the stars orbiting Sagittarius A? I saw the clip in a melodysheep video and instantly came to this channel to scour but haven't any luck.

[@EventHorizonShow]

What aspect of it would you like John to cover on that project?

[@naciremasti]

@@EventHorizonShow it'd be interesting if John could interview Reinhard Genzel on the entire project.

[@jimgraham6722]

Viking 1976. Gil Levin discovered LOM with LGR experiment.

[@RedSiegfried]

Every experiment ever done on Mars to test for life has come up positive at first until someone (rightly so) questions that result and finds a reason why it may not be life. This tells us that either no one wants to go out on a limb and say that it's probably life, or someone is incredibly bad at designing life-testing experiments. NASA should not be a jobs program for planetary geologists. Design an experiment that actually answers the question. You've only had 50 years now.

[@samburbank8708]

Kevin, it’s your old friend Sam, looking forward to this!

[@Houshalter]

I'm convinced that in 100 years, there will still be people insisting there is life there and the 120th probe will find it.

[@ETSpaceRocks]

I wonder why.... lol

[@vociferon-heraldofthewinte7763]

If an alien spacecraft landed and aliens exited, scientists would still say that is not definitive proof that alien life exists and more study is needed. Alien microbial life was found in Mars in the 1970’s by the Viking 1 and 2 landers.

[@dirremoire]

@@vociferon-heraldofthewinte7763 Extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof. *Does not apply to Dark Matter.

[@Ploskkky]

While the Viking missions did search for signs of life on Mars, they did not find conclusive evidence of microbial life. The landers conducted experiments, including the Search for Organisms and Biosignatures (SOB) experiment, which analyzed Martian soil and atmosphere for signs of biological activity. However, the results were inconclusive and did not provide definitive proof of life. In fact, Gilbert Levin, a scientist involved in the Viking mission, has reinterpreted the data from the 1970s to suggest that the mission may have found evidence of microbial life, but this interpretation is still debated and not widely accepted by the scientific community.

[@ETSpaceRocks]

You know what I am talking about great MAN

[@vociferon-heraldofthewinte7763]

@@dirremoire Yup

[@paulbennett772]

Given that there's nothing currently alive on Mars, it appears, how about a Martian version of tardigrades? Would we detect them?

[@EventHorizonShow]

Tardigrades are a form of life, if there’s a Martian equivalent then it’d be life or past life.

[@Harrybrown4570]

They are probably looking for pathogens they can weapoize.

[@imperialcitizen4811]

Speak to the hand.

[@zapfanzapfan]

Now, get that rock back to Earth pronto!

[@sportsfix6975]

Sooo, who's taking the video of the gadget rolling around on Mars? The same guy who's always there? He must be lonely

[@amangogna68]

Great video and information !

[@NewGoldStandard]

Yeah, we'll find life on Mars and immediately discover it's our cousin. Mark my words, this upcoming discovery will tell us nothing other than that Mars is our nextdoor neighbor.

[@MikaelLevoniemi]

Doesn't curiosity have an oven it could use to see if there are biological reactions in samples or is that impossible or perhaps even banned procedure?

[@patrickglaser1560]

They have oven chromatography but it's energy intensive

[@dcorgard]

They should be asking why practically the entire surface of Mars is littered with large rocks and boulders - that does not happen from normal formation. Something devastating happened to Mars, such that its crust (especially the northern hemisphere) was ripped off the planet and strewn back over itself. Something unimaginably terrific had to have happened - something we have not seen likes of since, and something we can't remember - and there is a chance it happened with humans as witnesses. It speaks loudly that the Solar System is not like clockwork - but rather it is only in a temporary state of stability, having reached this state after a cataclysm of epic proportions. One other point of evidence of instability is how weird our Solar zsystem is compared to others, which have giant gas planets closest to their stars. Maybe even Earth was a giant gas planet orbiting close to the sun and over eons, and due to time and various phenomena (Mini-novas? Periodic Novas? Massssssive CMEs?), the gas was stripped away to near completion - and this is wanting one to consider a situation for a decompressing Earth (no - I don't mean flat, hollow, expanding, or something else ludicrous) We can't rule anything out until there are extraordinary evidence and reasons proving otherwise. We can't keep assuming the Solar System has always been in the state it currently is ever since it settled in from its initial formation. A lot of the Solar System theory is based wholly upon totally unproven assumptions - assumptions that are being challenged daily by JWST and many other space probes. The best example of an outdated assumption is thay of Comets - we have visited so many, and NOT A SINGLE ONE has had enough water to explain them as "dirty snowballs"; yes, water was found in their comas, but this is very easily explained by electrolysis and recombination from particles from the Sun. We only ever found negligible amounts on the actual surfaces (in essence, a very light "frosting.") No "vents" are found. Every single one has been a hard, rocky body (at least one was two wholly different rocky bodies 'welded' together into a peanut shape). And why do some flare up their comas (IIRC a comet in 2010) larger than the Sun when moving away from the Sun and they are beyond the orbit of Saturn - where, even if they were "dirty snowballs", there wouldn't be enough heat to cause it... how many times do our textbooks need to be proven completely wrong until we accept the flaw and reformulate the theory..? It seems very off and of a stubbornly dogmatic mindset instead of following the scientific method.

[@francissantos7448]

I thought the blueberries were fossil remains. The leopard spots look like lichen-like remains.

[@kevinsayes]

I thought that said Kent Hovind for a second and I almost choked.

[@addipoom]

Imma use this vid as a sleep aid

[@dreamok732]

The best evidence we have that there is life in mars is the continual use of a green filter to turn every image red.

[@user-xy8ol7sj8v]

There's life in Mars. I believed I have rocks from Mars. It has micro living organism in them and they are very much alive even after 3 years of being inside the house.

[@freighttrain7144]

a hint of life... OH LIKE A BABY HUMAN HEARTBEAT?

[@vashtivanniasingham6354]

You mean like a white one?

[@letsgobrandon416]

Didn't the Mars return mission get canceled? Also, we've been studying abiogenesis for over a century. We've pretty definitively proven it's hard beyond anything we originally envisioned.

[@EventHorizonShow]

It might not be all that hard. kzbin.info/www/bejne/jZelfoajmcaap5o

[@letsgobrandon416]

@@EventHorizonShow we still haven't figured it out, and every time we think we have, we learn something new that sets us back.

[@EventHorizonShow]

Watch the video I linked to.

[@letsgobrandon416]

@@EventHorizonShow I did, I'm not sure how it's relevant. If you are referring to Dr Benner's experiment, that isn't life. Clever as it was to use a natural catalyst, the basaltic rock, it did nothing more than create random strings of RNA. There is no coded information contained in that RNA. Furthermore his experiment, as with all other's before his, come no closer to generating the complex chemical machines necessary to transcribe the RNA into proteins. Life is not a random collection of nucleotides. It requires specific coded information to be contained within nucleotieds that are transcribed by complex chemical machines into useful proteins. And that alone isn't even enough, as that must all take place within an enclosed and precisely balanced environment within the cell wall in order for the proteins to fold correctly. We have never come close to any of that in the lab, never mind developing a rigorous theory of this happening naturally. And thus, we know, unequivocally that abiogensis is hard, because the harder we try, the only thing we discover is how much harder it is than what we thought. This all lines up perfectly with David Kipping's latest paper detailing how we should expect there to either be life everywhere, or for it be exceedingly rare. He applied that to intelligent life specifically, but the principle is universal. If abiogenesis is easy, we should find life everywhere, if it is hard, life should be exceedingly rare. To date, the difficult/rare hypothesis has the most rigorous evidence on it's side.

[@MICHAELsill-ve4id]

We know we evolved from simple one-cell life. We are now getting close to discovering living bateria-like life on Mars and elsewhere. We should be planning what to do (if anything) about interfering with the potential evolution of those other beings. What if some bungling space-faring aliend species wiped out one-celled life on Earth a few billion years ago. "Do unto others as you would want done unto you "

[@jonrichardson8249]

If life were on Mars I don’t think we’d have to look too hard. This planet dead too long.

[@st3venseagal248]

The thing that really freaks me out about the hunt for life on other planets is if the planet is for the most part inhospitable to life on earth then how could we ever be sufficiently confident that whatever containment or sterilization protocols would actually work? I know it would be so much harder to develop some type of laboratory that was completely run by robotics but wouldn't that be the only real ethical way to do this? Seriously am I being too paranoid? I've never heard of any plan to just leave that stuff on the planet (or in the most extreme case, park it in orbit of that planet) and then send a specialized ship /testing facility there to do everything. You could even bring astronauts to the vicinity of the lab to remotely conduct all the testing, negating signal lag.

[@Liquoricilicious]

Alien life would look different genetically and biologically due to statistics

[@michaelcox1071]

Pathogens are usually adapted to very specific conditions. A virus that infects one animal won't easily adapt to another animal. Imagine a cell adapted to life in caustic frozen sand, with almost no air pressure, and high UV radiation. Would you expect that to thrive in your nose? Probably not.

[@earlycat170]

People will be excited but not surprised imo

[@matthewwalker6621]

It looks like Lycans growing in the rock

[@gegwen7440]

Had to stop at 3:55 after all the Might be/ Could be/ It might change ie: we do not know ! No surprise from someone making a living from modelling guesses (at best) about the outer solar system.

[@questjoyner5086]

You can find some good rocks in Chicago 😅

[@ryanb9749]

Could ceres have had an ocean or lake in the early days when it was still warm?

[@davidperezbabich]

I'm sure I'm way behind on this topic, but are we contaminating the planet by bringing a rover there?

[@rh001YT]

Exploration of Mars, especially search for liife, is a big waste of the people's tax dollars.

[@annakeye]

Nooo.., 2064. I'll be dead by then and I want these samples next week. PS: Another great fall into the Event Horizon. Thanks JPG.

[@ETSpaceRocks]

You can have them samples NOW! great to be alive in it x

[@xgjgxoycdfgghuggf]

Great video

[@losthewar]

this is a sign of life but a babies heart beat is not

[@ourcommonancestry6025]

This is upsetting as hell. Yes, we may have discovered layers and all the ingredients that make life possible but we won't ever know because we have zero capacity to retrieve samples before a micronova and the collapse of the AMOC... So upsetting. TY however, a compelling guest and great show... just damn upsetting to get the never a straight answer to anything.

[@art.is.life.eternal]

He probably DOES have a good memory, but the first indication of life was made by a very early Viking mission - but was hemmed and hawed into the background, until it seems as though NASA didn't really WANT to acknowledge the existence of even microbial life on Mars. Later on (after NASA had "discovered" water on Mars (again and again, including seeing very clearly the accumulation of melted ice on the legs of a lander), several indications of methane were discovered. Given these other signs, to assume that there is an EQUAL chance of the genesis of any methane being produced by mineralogical or biological processes would be misleading. The preponderance of all the other indicators leans HEAVILY on a biological cause. Now that we know how much water-ice is sublimated in the soil of Mars, it becomes even more likely that there is CURRENT biological life on Mars. Do you know what REALLY surprises me? How easy putting even a relatively SIMPLE "life-detector" on one - or all - of our Rovers would have been - but never happened, except for that one time when they HAD a detector, and it showed positive. After that: nothing. Close call, eh, NASA? If you REALLY wanted to know if there was LIVING microbial life on Mars, how hard - really - would it be to develop a scoop, and a little glass plate to run samples under a multi-zoomable microscope IMAGER? Imagine that, for a moment. Why hasn't it been done (it's a rhetorical question)?

[@reallyneed2know]

I love the idea of visiting Mars but nothing of this makes sense to me... what about the moon? we have a huge moon, close to us, where we could test material, people, after the Apollo Mission the natural step would have been and still his, colonization of the moon, permanent base on the moon.. probably from there would be easier and fast to launch mission to Mars, it would keep the interest of the people, it would inspire millions, it could have changed our society for the better in the past and it could still inspire millions today.. Now all this about Mars in the last years and zero moon... even privates.. now... either the moon really is not what we think it is, or the war lobby that took over like Dwight D. Eisenhower predicted diverted the money for weapons ... what if the Cold War was a cover story so countries could make a arms race because of what they found out in the moon landings and with the space programs all around the world? that could be a good script or book hehehe

[@ETSpaceRocks]

I could add tons of staff to this MOVIE

[@cernunnos_lives]

If you send me there, I'm bound to produce something that will live there. Score #1 for colonization. And I'm pretty sure it will add more methane for everyone.

[@genestippell1833]

Doesn't Amazon Prime deliver from Mars? Or is Bezos still working out the details...

[@jimclarke6136]

Have we found caves or similar structures on Mars ?

[@giantclam1822]

Bong hits Cheeseburger Onion rings Atorvastatin Event Horizon

[@thevagabondtree6426]

If we find alien dinosaur fossils on mars one day that would be soooooo coool

[@Ploskkky]

It most definitely would be, but I don't think development of life got that far on Mars.

[@thevagabondtree6426]

@@Ploskkky finding microbial life or evidence of it in the past is cool enough.

[@Ploskkky]

@@thevagabondtree6426 I think so, too.