Evergreen Review: Let The Sun Shine!

[@lr6403]

At 8:31, when describing the lake effects, Zee got it backwards. A lake always provides 1 generic growth to any 2 adjacent trees (always 2 trees). The track at the top of the board is how many lakes you gain by the lake action. 1, 1, or 2 lakes.

[@DrCy616]

Love this new format- emphasizes how reviews can be so subjective. Also love the different points of view and helps me decide whether go purchase the game or not. Thanks, dice tower!

[@Norm-R]

This was my favorite game I picked up at Gen Con. Absolutely loved it and randomly running into Hjalmar Hach at my hotel, he was a wonderful man who went out of his way to sign my copy of the game.

[@rabidpickle]

Thanks for the review! I missed the numbers for each person's score showing up.

[@memoman88]

yes, please add back. I want to see all the scores and then decide if I want to watch the whole review. I'm not going to spend 24 minutes watching a review for a game to find out people didn't think highly of it.

[@thedicetower]

You know that's why we do Week in Review, right?

[@rabidpickle]

I'll spend 24 minutes watching. but I still liked the numbers :)

[@tomasxfranco]

@@thedicetower it's being done on at least half of the group reviews now. It should just be consistent.

[@Skarpo89]

@@thedicetower That's a weird answer, as you do say your score, it's just a viewer experience thing here, it would be nicer if they were also shown

[@joaovitorcarvalho588]

hey guys, great video! I'm looking for a plant themed game to give to a friend and your video gave me a lot of perspective on how the game works and its main aspects. thank you so much!

[@jameskirk4692]

Thank you all for the review.

[@IZaubermausI]

Perhaps it works best with two players to have the most influence on the scoring?! No matter what - I just ordered it….

[@wendyisgrowinginwisdom6350]

Sounds like score wise, this game is a personal best with company of friends, which is nice. Also "Treezers" is going to be a thing from now on Chris!

[@santeeblack3580]

The girl and I give it a 9/ 9.5.. this game sings. She suffered like Camila in her first game.. I wish the lakes , triggered lakes maybe . But this game is such a good couples game we pull it out all the time .. and Tom's right on the teach , I don't understand how ya'll get so confused.. lol

[@bagookster]

Love the new format and thumbnails. Dice tower is always improving!

[@tomasxfranco]

I don't really like the thumbnails, the white on blue looks too flat for me. The dice tower part doesn't pop enough.

[@zyater]

I completely agree with Zee. One of my favorite from Gen Con. Very elegant graphic design and gameplay. I do agree that while they made the box eco-friendly including the baggies that components came in, its not the best for gameplay

[@littlekong7685]

A neat little game, certainly looks like it is for more veteran board game players that like puzzles more than competition. That said It looks like it could use more player interaction as Tom says, like with objective cards. Or maybe a rock card, lets you force another player to put a big stone somewhere that interrupts areas (but can be mitigated for bonus points somehow, like maybe surrounding it with tall trees or something). A reason to look at others players boards.

[@merccc1]

I don't get the whole end game points, "who won?" issue. Seems to be a fairly common and shared aspect of most point based games. Games like that, everdell, flamecraft, and so many others tend to all have this. You do your own thing, rack up points in different ways and at the end see how everyone did with what they had. You can sometimes gauge how well they are doing sometimes, but that is only slightly and unreliable. After all they could have all different manners of scoring points, even just saving surprise end game score and such.

[@radrabbit011]

Any game with hidden scoring or points that aren't tallied until the end.

[@jr637-1]

Definitely want to at least play this one.

[@chrisleyba3665]

Thanks for review. I have a question about the "new" format if that's what it is. I looked up and expected there to be numbers for everyone's review. Is the "9" overall rating an average of everyone's rating of the game? I looked up when Zee said 9 and saw the overall rating - but I do recall Camilla saying a 6.5. Thanks again for the review!

[@codym6376]

They always went with whoever rated the highest they just haven’t done this many multi-person reviews before except the 4-squares. I’m really liking the multiple people giving input though. Much more useful of a review.

[@Crazyc131]

I do think they should list the numbers under everyone at the end for clarity. The bottom line lists the highest score given by the reviewers and that is the score that determines whether the dice tower seal of approval or excellence is given since every score is just an opinion. If someone feels like the game deserves a seal, then it gets a seal. No one's opinion invalidates someones else's (an average of opinions would just be the BGG rating in the end). I believe this is a summary of what Tom expressed in the past.

[@cailin5301]

Yeah, I missed Tom's, and tried to scrub through and find it but I struggled with that

[@nelly2191]

17:45 - scores start here

[@ClockworkWyrm]

I'm with Tom on this one, objective cards would be a fantastic addition (though I tend to like them in most games).

[@amchasteenable]

Zee Garcia - Voice of the People! Good call!

[@DarthPizza777]

for a while there i thought Zee was trolling about how much he loved this game. lol

[@radrabbit011]

Ugh, small treas block the sun from shinning on the tall trees that are direclty behing it. This annoyed me in Photosynthesis too. The sun is in the sky and small trees won't cast a shadow that big. I know its nit picking, but it sticks me. I would play this over Photosynthesis anytime.

[@Poiuytrew.Q]

I don’t get it - in photosynthesis if a tall tree is behind a small tree, it isn’t affected by the small tree’s shadow…

[@mariocontrerasfleury6442]

No it does not! Small trees don't block taller trees light

[@davidrusca2]

Feels kinda like photosynthesis with engine building 🤔

[@StevenStJohn-kj9eb]

Treezers? Chris, you're a national treesure.

[@TheMr02drop]

This looks like a kinder, gentler Photosynthesis.

[@Skarpo89]

I'd very much like having the score show below each person so I don't have to keep them in my head as they talk. Otherwise really enjoy this format

[@Elionai413]

Haha there is an expansion coming. Tom called it!

[@jean-christopherioux3546]

What is the difference between this format of review with four of you and the four square ones? I really like the group review format btw, ?

[@thedicetower]

There is no difference. We just dropped the Four Square nomenclature.

[@gozzywozzy485]

haha, treezers made me snort! +1 Guffaw skillpoint to Chris

[@nshaw1299]

21:36 omg omg omg screenshot this double facepalm and put it next to the famous startrek triple facepalm meme template! (yeah, I know the triple facepalm is a poor photoshop... it's hillariously poorly photoshopped)

[@dbungart3044]

Very cool looking game!

[@RynoKenny]

Why the round marker in the corner if the sun movement also marks the round? I must be missing something

[@simonb9898]

Because it also shows how many cards to draft

[@neverlooz]

its look like this will kill photosynthesis for me.

[@guillermoz4914]

Game looks good but i dislike games that have this solitaire feel. Another game i own, Dinosaur Island Phase 3&4 is solitaire. I usually house rule these moments where every player takes their turn before the next. So in this game Evergreen I would let everyone score their pts a player at a time so everyone is aware and make sure we score correctly…similar to Azul scoring. Yes the game slows down a bit but at home it’s worth every interaction 🤓

[@RynoKenny]

Seems like too little interaction. Does this have any more interaction than Kingdomino? I think I’d always choose Kingdomino over this game because of the simpler teach for the same amount of player interactivity.

[@lastburning]

Multiplayer solitaire where everyone is only fixated on their own player board. Hey, it's not the first of its kind but it's boring when people are not playing with each other.

[@LorenzoLiverani]

Don't ask me how, but wouldn't this has been better with 1 board only, where all players can put their trees etc? Looks a lot like a solitaire to me maybe?

[@henrikwakman7776]

We love mean games! The meaner the better, and having a great laugh at the expense of others:P

[@Poiuytrew.Q]

Whenever I hear Zee’s theme song I’m always hoping it’s a Zee review.

[@koalabrownie]

Zee, it's Gardener of the Galaxy not Guardian. . . smh - - - also enjoy the new format with 2-4 people. Differing opinions is really what I want to see in every video if possible. Single person reviews honestly rarely interest me.

[@Sachora]

Zee just lost all credibility when he said it's a better "looking" board than Photosynthesis. This game looks like a MUCH uglier version of it