Everton's new stadium: Can Toffees ever be great again? | BBC Sport

[@historyoffootball87]

Before the start of the Premier League, Everton had the third most league titles, just one behind Arsenal.

[@kps.77]

Hmmm, so who was 1st? 😀

[@xxitactical_8723]

@@kps.77Liverpool

[@MadHarri17]

Ask anyone who doesn't support Everton (or even some of their own fans) and they won't have a clue that Everton have 9 league titles and are 4th in country in terms of success. What a failing of Everton branding - this fact should be plastered into everyone's minds just like the Neanderthals talk up their CL wins.

[@Amanveer5]

@@kps.77 it is Manchester United with 20

[@cov9290]

@@Amanveer5 that premier league. He’s talking about the top division

[@fisherpeter695]

Having watched Everton since the late 1950s, and seeing the 1963, 1970, 1985, and 1987 Championship teams i feel it a tragedy hearing young supporters, who having spent more than past fans following the team, say they have never seen success. Everton were once lucky to have the leadership of John Moore's who often felt the pulse of fans. And took action that day.! We often recruited players with strength of character skill and intelligence to cope with the heavy demands of the season. Look at many of Howard Kendall and David Moyes buys from the lower leagues who played a big part in their teams. The huge outlay recently, often brought in players who simply couldn't cope with trips to the likes of Newcastle or Leeds in the depth of winter nights. Whatever the reason no decent striker wasn't brought in, the failure to address the loss of form of Calvert Lewin could effect the club for years. Jermaine Beckford, Yakubu, Louis Saha, and Wayne Clarke are but a few whose instant goal scoring lifted their teams. Maybe an 8- goal striker since January might have unlocked goals from other players. and seen a higher points return.

[@johnwilson-tq9gr]

true mate heysel didnt help tho

[@phaywood5883]

As a villa fan, I feel the pain of relegation worries that Everton fans have. The main worry, is that football evolves. Dyche in theory is the right man for the job, but just being hard to beat and relying on 1-0 set piece wins won’t cut it now I don’t think. I hope Everton stay up.

[@WingmanLive]

UTV!💜💙💜💙

[@kmc79228]

Does it ruin your club going down. I can see us going further down if we go down

[@WingmanLive]

@@kmc79228 Villa went down for 3 season's we came back up as a completely different team, gettin relegated for villa to the championship was like a hard reset for villa we had massive clear out and been rebuilding ever since, even now its our 4th season back in the prem only a few players remain from the team we got promoted with the transformation and evolution of villa is coming on strong! 💪 Even our 2nd season in championship we got to final of playoffs and lost to Fulham, so really we flew the championship and got back up fast. It was just our first season in championship that was horrible!

[@kmc79228]

@@WingmanLive I think that's what we need. To get rid of the ones that are hanging on. The ones that don't play for the shirt. Did you worry you wouldn't get back up to the prem x

[@kmc79228]

@@1980_LFC I'll be very surprised if we do mate. Got no goalscorers so if other team get a goal game over xx

[@neilburns8869]

Anything is possible, just look at Leicester City winning the Premier League title. And of course Liverpool won it after 30 years so I wouldn't really say that Everton could never return to their previous heights but obviously paying off the stadium will take time as it did with Arsenal when they moved to the Emirates. However, Everton's new stadium at Bramley Moor Docks is very impressive and iconic looking structure and will be part of the Everton folklore for many seasons to come. There will be all sorts of memories to be created here when it's eventually completed and the club are given the all-clear to move into their new home. But no matter what happens nobody can take away the history of Everton FC.

[@GROBU]

What history? And Liverpool won it after 30 years, is that like saying "anything can happen" because since then Liverpool won every single trophy in football. Everton haven't. So a big difference buddy

[@shutup2751]

arsenal had done the invincibles only 2 years before moving to the emirates, everton have won nothing since 95

[@noname52768]

Liverpool finished in the top 3 several times in those 30 years and actually won other silverware during that period. Everton are too busy hating on Liverpool since 1985. It’s about time they moved on

[@thomasfoster1899]

Hans seegers an wimbeldon yrs ago.any one remember hum.😈

[@GROBU]

@@thepaddedcell8140 hahaha mate you aren't a red if your saying that believe me. Your baiting. Everton do not have a great history. They have great history for all the wrong things. They were OK in the 80s but that's it. No European cups, they have a milk trophy. And another milk trophy in the last 30 years. The British army has a great history winning 2 world wars. But that's over 100 years ago. Don't live in the past.

[@me5969]

It would be the most Everton thing ever if the sea levels rise when that stadium gets built

[@31cify]

I like that one. That would be the curse of all curses. Most of us don't even really want the new ground anyway, there's still a lot of divided feeling about all this, and we all understand why.

[@Paul-jw7dc]

Sea levels are not rising,don't believe all this climate change nonsense.

[@fredfredericks3496]

The stadium is sinking just like the club. Happy days.

[@jamesmcdaid6124]

The sad thing is the sea levels are rising 😊

[@3chords490]

When clubs are run by people who don’t understand football and don’t understand fans , then it never ends well.

[@pietropes1322]

Top-level Football is now a Business first, sport second.

[@alanwann9318]

Yes, we suffered Mike Ashley (nufc)

[@sergioalmasy8722]

I completely understand your point, we have that American, Kroenke, at Arsenal who has been holding us back for over a decade!

[@ItsAlimonda]

Relegation might give them a reset but i think more likely they could end up in the wilderness for years like Leeds. It's pretty critical they stay up before the new stadium comes in

[@RS__7]

There's no way Everton would get lost in the wilderness....even if they went down they would win the championship with 100 points...they got too much money and too PL established to get stuck in the championship.... especially with this new stadium

[@craigmoore4876]

@@RS__7 Leeds were premier league established and ended up in the wilderness for 16 years

[@Spaced92]

Relegation while building a stadium could kill Everton for good, forget a reset IMO

[@RS__7]

@@craigmoore4876 Not like Everton....Leeds went out the league when their wasn't the enormous amounts that's we've had for the past 15 years...no parachute payments back then

[@31cify]

​@@Spaced92 Yeah, of course it could. No one wants relegation, no fans of any Club wants it. Anyone who says different is an absolute fool.

[@andrewgreen6429]

I remember the mid 80s side. What a team that was. Expectations are so much lower now and it proves that money without direction and wisdom counts for nothing

[@31cify]

Yeah, absolutely.

[@55victorf]

I hope Everton has a better future from a SPORTING Clube de Portugal fan , my top 3 English football teams are Tottenham, Everton and Aston Villa , cheers from Lisbon 🇵🇹

[@TJS2212]

Crazy to think but a few seasons ago under Ancelotti we were top of the league for a bit and spent most of the season in the top 5, eventually finishing 10th after an abysmal end. Some of the signings we've made have been absolutely appalling. The management of the club has been farcical for some time now, the best part of 25 years. I hope we don't get relegated but have no complaints if we do. Just hope that it serves as a reset rather than years in the wilderness. Be the latter knowing Everton's luck.

[@Sizdothyx]

The management of the club hasn't been farcical. The recruitment and training/backroom staff have been. The upper management has poured loads of money into the club to buy absolute bums for players. That's not the fault of the management - that's the fault of the recruitment. When a defender scores an own goal it isn't the striker's fault.

[@davidtogi5878]

@@Sizdothyx does the management have no control over recruitment?

[@jamesmccarthy6764]

Frankly it's a miacle Everton haven't gotten relegated in either of the last 2 seasons, better teams than you have gone down. All 3 teams that went down last season had better squads.

[@briankiernan4756]

I’m a Spurs fan, but I have a real soft spot for Everton. A club of their stature shouldn’t be in this kind of this position. Hopefully they can turn it around soon.

[@Luckenw]

thank you sir, I sure hope Ill see Everton win something in my lifetime :D

[@tonyhughes3690]

Thanks mate!

[@Bronson-357]

There not gona turn it around and they deserve to be in predicament there in

[@shanelee4764]

As a Sunderland fan I know all too well about relegation, no club is too big to go down but too see a club like Everton in the championship would just seem wrong. I hope their fortunes change

[@humanhybrid924]

Dunno, highly doubt we’ll see united liverpool or arsenal relegated in our lives

[@hughjorgen30]

As someone that is new in the UK, I have nothing but respect and admiration for these fans. Come rain or shine win or lose, they still show up . These clubs are like religions. Whether they are bottom or top. As someone that's from a country without much of a footballing history or fan base to talk of, I can never understand this almost "blind" loyalty. I can only respect it.

[@enei7045]

"These clubs are like religions" yeah football has replaced religion in this country. for better or worse.

[@chrisbarker1046]

I wish Everton all the best, my Man City had a taste of that great 80s side under Kendall then Reid, and with the likes of Heath and Harper playing for us too. They were really good for us even in their declining years.

[@craigmullen9046]

Would have been interesting if Kendall would have stayed at Maine Road. I don't think we would have had 35 year wait for a major honour. Maybe not the league, but certainly the league Cup or the FA Cup. But the pull of going back to Everton was to strong as he stated at the time, City was the love affair, Everton was the Marriage. But his return never really worked out. He even went back in the summer of 97. Again he couldn't rekindle the good times at Goodison like he did in the 80s. They always say never return to a club as manager in football. MCFC

[@bazingacurta2567]

Your City is good now just because of dirty Saudi money.

[@BenM388]

Even through the hard times Everton fans have endured, i still do not think Everton will go down this season, i really hope you do not because i will definatly be at your new stadium when we play you

[@edwardkelly3280]

If they find board members that care and find scouts that care Everton will be a good club again

[@TheSm1thers]

I reckon Sean Dyche will bring them back. He's the perfect manager for a club like Everton.

[@Victory..I]

MEGA! Make everton great again..

[@hi--tEk]

😂

[@brianennion4832]

🤣🤣🤣

[@dogsbod]

So sad to see our great club struggling under this useless lot if we do survive this season things must change 100%

[@vangledosh]

'Struggling' pfffft come off it, you ain't seen struggling mate. Not struggling like being down in the depths of div 3. Time for yous to get relegated, it's been far too long since it's happened 😉

[@dogsbod]

Dont be bitter lad we all care about our club whoever you support

[@ashleyburns6752]

The problem is Everton have delusions of grandeur about how big a club they are. Times change.

[@semicharmedlife311]

How big a club is has much to do with it's history, not just what state they are in currently. Fact is, Everton is a massive club historically.

[@garethfieldstead7547]

I don't think we are delusional - we just don't think one cup in 36 years is acceptable. Kenwright has eroded expectations from title challengers in the late 80s to little Everton punching above there weight. Magnificent 7th still makes my toes curl. The guy is a cancer. The sooner he and his cronies are out of Everton the better.

[@timhanser1943]

Wonderful stadium , best in the country with spurs . They have the right man at the helm now , finally , they will be back at the top table soon hopefully. Massive club with a massive history and tradition. ( Derby County fan )

[@dan003]

Haha, Tim, this stadium won't be a patch on Spurs' ground. It'll be nice, but the build quality is absolutely nowhere near that of Spurs.

[@mymemories925]

More relevant history than man City period

[@spartybrearly7221]

History and tradition is all very well but Everton have been mediocre also-rans for years. It’s time the Toffees had a spell in the Championship.

[@pleasantville4529]

@@spartybrearly7221 I suppose that would make you happy? Why take joy in the misfortune of others? They call us bitter blues, but the real bitters are less than a mile away, for now that is. We tried our best to get as far away from your pathetic fans as we could. Our new home is on the banks of the royal blue Mersey. You can only dream about having such an iconic setting.

[@31cify]

​@@spartybrearly7221 OK. Well we'll take that on the chin as the men of the world we are. We'd rather not suffer the fate, but our spirit will see us through.

[@brotherseverus4962]

We can still save this season,three more games to go and last one was a solid victory. Come on Everton 💙

[@blinify]

Everton are and always will be great.

[@highdefinitionstanleytm9614]

Stop smoking crack again BlinRing

[@bettytigers]

Everton won the league in 1962 with Wednesday's manager and one of our best players Tony Kay the year after Wednesday were runners up to Tottenham's double winning team. Then Harry Catterick wanted to sign a good forward (Baker from Forest) but when the board invested in the cantalever stand instead Mr Catterick joined Everton. Perhaps the two Liverpool teams could swop stadiums if Everton are going to be the more successful in the future? I personally hope both Sheffield teams are more successful, but I'm prejudiced 🙂!

[@johncryan7244]

Sorry mate you got the year wrong, Everton were champions in 1963 not 1962 that was Ipswich Town

[@barneyb1857]

As a Forest fan Everton are a similar club to us, great fans, proper football club with no tourists, great history, I mean Forest are still the 10th most successful club In England and we've been away for 23 years....I had a great day at Goodison when forest played there (1.1) the music when the teams walk out was what i heard all the time on MOTD as a kid lol hope you lot stay up, can't imagine Everton In the championship.

[@tafanlee7639]

dont forget leeds united

[@barneyb1857]

@@tafanlee7639 You know what, as much as I hate Leeds and most of the country you can't argue with that, the prem is looking good now, just a shame that Shitty Burnley are coming back up

[@royfudgemonkey9940]

Most Everton fans are welsh That’s not English There for they have tourists Forest don’t have tourists coz use are shite

[@barneyb1857]

@@royfudgemonkey9940 funny because when I went most of them spoke scouse, Forest are not shiite, there just not as good as 10 other teams in the prem lol forest are still one of the most historic clubs in England pal and did it all by not using suger daddy money

[@mymemories925]

​@@barneyb1857 yep forest has achieved in Europe what man City still is failing to achieve even with the world's best talent? European pedigree is the stumbling block

[@Cal157]

When they get people in who know how to run a club then yes!!!

[@hakc97again]

Didn't Everton struggle like this for most of the 90s and early 2000s until David Moyes came in?

[@1878Originals]

Yeah. So?

[@hakc97again]

@@1878Originals Just that first statement isn't true then that he's never known the club in such turmoil. Although is it as bad as that period? I don't know

[@brianennion4832]

@@hakc97again Having lived through both, you make a fair point. The only reason I'd say it is worse now is that going down in 1998, the last time we stayed up on the last day, would have been rectifiable. Going down now with the amount of debt the club has accrued and the sheer competitiveness of the Championship, could be the start of a very long downward spiral.

[@hakc97again]

@Brian Ennion I think you are safe for another season thanks to Dyche. I'd be inclined to say the same as you about the downward spiral if they do but Newcastle and Aston Villa recovered, and they're of similar size and stature

[@fredfredericks3496]

Moyes won loads of trophies for them, didn't he?

[@waynewalden6311]

If Everton go down they will find it very hard going back up to the premier league from a fulham fan

[@peterburry2531]

Even more so with that the massive debt on the stadium to pay off

[@royalnavyveteran3164]

I'm a Liverpool fan and have been for 41 years, growing up with mates who supported Everton always moaned for investment and if they got it they'd be fighting on all fronts and i agreed with them as back in my youth days everton were solid and I dreaded the derbies but even with investment they've gone backwards and i love seeing Everton do bad but I hope they don't get relegated because I love my derbies, the fans deserve more so I feel for them and I feel for moshiri as he's pumped millions into that club, moshiri has been advised badly and with the likes of chippy Bill involved is something that needs to change in my opinion. Anyway please stay up everton, good luck 💙

[@RS__7]

It's not man city levels of investment....FFP came in at the wrong time for Everton

[@royalnavyveteran3164]

I agree mate but for Everton that's a huge amount of investment from a owner plus the new stadium, i hate when I hear Everton fans slating moshiri, yes I know he calls the shots but he's been advised wrong and no doubt he knows that he ain't stupid, also another problem has been with sacking managers who have a plan and never get to fulfil their ideas then another manager comes in with a different plan and you can see that on the pitch, the squad everton have they shouldn't be were they are id say 12th at best, and the ffp has hurt Everton and thats why they had to sell richarlison to balance the books and couldn't replace him.

[@brianennion4832]

@@royalnavyveteran3164 You're spot on, mate. I really don't think Moshiri is the villain of this piece, either. Although, it is difficult to exculpate him for his gullibility in listening to people who clearly didn't have the best interests of the club at heart.

[@fredfredericks3496]

I hope they get relegated. It would be funny

[@garethfieldstead7547]

A decent red!! Cheers fella - for what its worth I think Klopp will have you challenging again next season. The Premier league need it. I just cannot see anyone else coming close to City. We will be back. A couple of years of mid table stability and then challenge for Europe. Dyche is terrific. For all his critics some of our football since he came in particularly against Arsenal, Chelsea and Brighton was superb. If he is given money to spend we will be fine.

[@Chigleybus]

But some things never change. Even in 84/85 we couldn't win at Arsenal and got knocked out of the League Cup at home, although I remember thinking during that Grimsby game we should have been 8-0 up before Paul Wilkinson got the winner. Then again, we did the double over the RS so it was (almost) the perfect season.

[@IndieVolken]

13 corners to 1 ????

[@garethfieldstead7547]

Harsh Chigley!! The football was fantastic - we won a European trophy beating the mighty Bayern Munich on the way. We set a new points record for the title at the time. We simply ran out of energy by the end of the season. Only allowed one sub. Can you imagine if we had of been allowed five subs back then? We had already beaten Utd twice that season, including the perfect performance at Goodison 5 - 0. Treble without a doubt.

[@rogerdecoursey8341]

Im sure everyone else would have had 5 subs also. ​@@garethfieldstead7547

[@loby24]

Everton has to stay in the prem with Dyche in chargre this may be the first recruitment they have done right i think they will stay up to play in that amazing stadium in Liverpool they have spent but poor recruitment has led to this place

[@ManiPlaysYT]

The location of new stadium is cool

[@ordinarystuff]

Not if you live by it! It's a cool location for sure

[@chrisstrider]

@@ordinarystuff just fishes?

[@charliebaarg303]

theres barely anyone living close to this, its mainly just warehouses round there

[@harbottle8580]

And a sewerage works right next to it. Fact. Everton where conned into that particular dock. The next dock along would have been ideal. Nonetheless, the stadium is good for the Liverpool waterfront skyline.

[@simonlewis720]

The area it is in is horrible,I think they are hoping it will redevelop the whole area ,not so sure it will but the stadium does look nice

[@Dude0000]

4:36 Can’t remember seeing a good pic of Anfield from Goodison before, only the other way around. Looks very imposing, and with the new Anfield Rd end, will look even more imposing now.

[@sawyertuide7636]

As a young Las Vegas Raider fan who also somewhat starting to follow English Football, the Generation Gap I can relate to. A team with 3 super bowls who thinks playoffs is “our Super Bowl” is the equivalent to thinking 5th-6th place with no hardware is “our trophy”. It’s sorta just discouraging if you really look into it. Of course my solution is for the Raiders is to tank to set a new standard, but you can’t tank in the PL. Maybe an emphasis on stability and development would work for Everton.

[@lukemiller7381]

It was not the first purpose built one in england it was Molineux Stadium in 1889

[@JayEFC1969]

The money is in the champions league and tv. Come 4th on goal difference and there's a wealth of riches open to you compared to coming 5th - the gap will only grow with current football structure.

[@John49910110]

Ive never seen a stadium win matches

[@edgeman148]

Sean Dyche is a brilliant bloke and he will be good for Everton.

[@janellek21]

True enough, but what good can he do working for this nincompoop owner we've got?

[@mariarusso3790]

Hi Mike how are you doing today? I wish you a nice Sunday 😊

[@billycole3565]

£40mil for iwobi says everything

[@JW93.]

Guess your illiterate because in the graphic he was 28M

[@redwheelbarrow9729]

@@JW93.lol he was £40 mil.

[@JW93.]

@@redwheelbarrow9729 Read the graphic at 2:45 and stfu

[@phaywood5883]

@@JW93. or maybe you don’t understand football let alone being illiterate. Including add ons and appearances etc, the fee actually is nearly £40m. Check your facts before slagging someone off. Clown.

[@JW93.]

@@phaywood5883 The fee is in black and white. Im certain none of the add ons have been met as he has been terrible and so have the team.

[@gerrymcalinney3504]

Sean Dyche seems to have got a bit of fighting spirit in the Blues,but we are a long way from being a good team,and I do feel sorry for the owner,he’s put a lot of his cash into the club,and it’s NOT his fault if the managers/staff haven’t turned out as good as expected,the one guy I thought might do it was Marco Silva,but unfortunately the fans knew better,even though most of them haven’t kicked a ball since they left school

[@VincentMuambiAuthor]

As Manchester United supporter (25.5 years and counting), I want to say how much I empathize with the supporters of Everton Football Club. They don't deserve the hardship, but they have a billionaire owner who - I'm sorry to say - is somewhat a light version of the Glazers. He's happy to have this magnificent club under his wing. He doesn't care about how the football operations department is run. It's a toy collection for Moshiri, a thing to show off. I'm afraid he'll use the new stadium as an extension to that toy collection. The new stadium is brilliant, and it will help elevate the club. Everton needs an owner who is smart and will put the right persons in play..

[@cliffjones9922]

I remember the gap between winning the league in 87 and the Cup in 95, they were 8 horrible years. But never in my days did it think, that after 95, we'd go over quaternary of a century and more without any success.

[@dingopisscreek]

a sobering thought for ANY fan......no club is too big to be relegated. poor management, poor players or a multitude of other factors can undo the efforts of a club to succeed

[@droitwichblue]

Spot on. It’s painful. People talk about Leeds but the view into the vortex is Sunderland. That’s what can happen.

[@MANCHESTER.IS.BLUE.49]

The similarities between Everton of now and Manchester City in the 90s are incredible. City during that period had Man utd going through their most successful period whilst City just could not compete with no money. Really hope Everton get it together as they seem like a really great club with real fans

[@keynesianeconomics4113]

Very different. Everton is an historically big club run terribly, whereas City are a traditionally smaller club run impeccably. Everton aren't skint; they've just made consistently poor decisions.

[@MANCHESTER.IS.BLUE.49]

@@keynesianeconomics4113 very good point. City are unlucky that they have United on their doorstep and will always be judged against them which is truly unfair..Same with Everton who have Liverpool on their doorstep. Both Everton and City are very successful clubs in their own right.

[@Spaced92]

@@keynesianeconomics4113 They've been skint for a long time in comparison to most clubs, even now with rich owners they have only one single striker and didn't make a move when in the relegation zone. Before them, it was only investments into the team when they sold a player.

[@indiekiddrugpatrol3117]

​@@keynesianeconomics4113 Everton are bigger than Man City but calling Man City a small club is just wrong, even before the takeover

[@craigmullen9046]

​​​@@indiekiddrugpatrol3117 thankyou I remember when we were shit in the Nationwide Div 2 now Div 1 Old Division 3 I got told of rival fans oh you should be back up their. Big club, sleeping giant. Once the takeover came, in 2008!!! we was then a small club etc. The green eyed monster of envy certainly changes a opinion. We actually had some great sides in the 60s and 70s but we overspent got in lots of debt and never really recovered as the 80s and mid to late 90s testified. MCFC

[@johnceragioli9671]

I’m a Arsenal fan, a few years ago things looked poorly for us and now look where we are! There no reason why Everton can’t do the same.

[@mylom8397]

Big difference. Arsenal had owners who didn't care, so for better or worse just left things alone (no good investment, but also no bad ideas). Everton have terrible owners making bad decision after bad decision.

[@BaljinderSingh-cq6sh]

Good owners and good manager , anything is possible.

[@jacobfield4848]

The owners have backed the team with a new stadium and Millions to spend. The directors of football have wasted almost every penny of it.

[@highlander72b69]

The fan right in the opening said it right…they could slide to league 1…. Ask any sunderland fan about bad ownership overspending and sliding 3 divisions!!!!!

[@BlueBadger24]

I believe they can I think Everton must invest in the possibility of coaching and understanding this club

[@nikreece6295]

I’m a Liverpool fan…But as a neutral… Everton moving to the Bramley Moore stadium next summer is defo a step in the right direction for them… But if Everton are to become a force again in English football, and challenge for future trophies?…. They will have to get a mega rich owner like newcastle … Who will give the club money to get Everton the players to get the rest of the team playing again…And a manager with the potential to take Everton back to were they want to be …and in all fairness. Where Everton should be

[@eamonreidy9534]

I understand why they needed to move ground, Goodison was at risk of falling apart, but why did they settle on 53 thousand seats. Only an extra 13 thousand or so. Why didnt they aim for 60 or 70?

[@aidy6000]

always had a soft spot for the toffees, hope they bounce back. Bout time they redeveloped Goodison though.

[@aidygooner]

The amount of money which Everton have spent should have taken them to the Champions League, let alone a solid top half finish which shows how incompetently they're run. 🤦‍♂️

[@AKA001]

Being a Dutchie, I’ve been a fan since Koeman joined. Great potential, but lack of patience. It hasn’t become better since his sacking. Go you Toffees!

[@flashtheoriginal]

2024 pre season. And apart from the PNE game we have been SHITE. No formal Owner has been decided, financially up the creek, poor communication, bloated ineffective and expensive squad, crap management. 2 relegation battles in a row. Likely to be bottom by October. DYCHE OUT

[@aaronleelayoga]

- the majority of us have had to deal with it, unfortunately - whether you’re a Newcastle, Villa, West Ham fan..at some point you hit the worst of your decline. and granted it’s usually poor board and ownership-related decisions (like cuts in investing in new talent) that send you down. It becomes too difficult to compete with top half of the table teams - so ultimately you have your period of stagnation before eventually succumbing to relegation. All the best to Everton regardless, and I do think Dyche is the guy to keep you up, but there needs to be a “renewed” team spirit. A lot of the players seem loyal, but no one wants to take accountability for the results and lack of quality in the final third. It’s also bizarre to me that while I do think Pickford should be England’s #1…when i’m the last 30+ years have you ever seen an England #1 keeper not playing for a top 6 team?!

[@robertparry4929]

I think the way to go is sign a manager on a long term deal. Start with stability

[@EvoGoody]

It's hard to see Everton staying up with the lack of quality in their squad. They've wasted so much money on players that haven't cut it.

[@liammerrick6399]

not with current upper management they wont. most inept board in the division.

[@All-Outta-Bubblegum]

Everton have never in all of their history been the best club in the country. That's a ridiculous statement.

[@JackoLid]

If they won the league 9 times who come above first 9 times? Amazing

[@markymark3572]

Spending so much on a new stadium when there are so many other problems in the running of the club, the results, the disjointed spending on the squad...I really hope they know what they are doing

[@derekmooney2771]

As a Newcastle fan born and bred some 64 years of supporting the Toon have given our fans very little. The Ashley years when he simply rinsed the club for his own ends were terrible. take heart that things can change, but scapegoating certain players sin't the way.

[@marksavage1108]

right on the River Mersey????? magnificent it is NOT. Regent Road is one big long industrial estate, sewerage treatment works next door, working docks offloading lots of stinking cargoes, an asphalt plant, giant flour silos, giant scrap metal mound in Nortons. Regent Road has 5 HGV wagons to every car. It has no parking, no shops, no food outlets, no public transport route within 10 minutes walk. It will be a shiny new button on a dirty old pair of overalls.

[@lordred4116]

They have to be shut of Kenwright to start the comeback. Thats from a red, who grew up in the 60s when Everton were the top club in the north.

[@justincoombes4485]

Blimey I thought we had it bad at Tottenham before watching this video. And irrespective of not winning trophies, I can't complain too much about the football on offer at the Lane in this past decade thanks mainly to Potchettino. Everton need a direction and I don't know if the new stadium alone will be a viable option that will allow them to compete again. As it's not like they haven't had money previously but as it says in this video spent it badly. What on earth happened to the team from 3 years ago under Ancheletto ? pardon the spelling, as I thought that team was moving in the right direction. Indeed could well awaken memories of the 80's when I was a kid.

[@KPP365]

I am a Red and I hope Everton stay up. Its important for many reasons

[@jesseb5076]

When I was a lad growing up in the 80s Everton and Liverpool where dominant. I remember Liverpool beating Everton 3-2 and rush scoring 2, after that it seemed they just started to slip away. Tbh Liverpool did come 1990 until lately .

[@Ali74]

Liverpool “started to slip away”. We’ve been top four for the vast majority of PL history. Had the best PL game ever (4-3 vs Newcastle), had the best collection of forwards of any PL team (Fowler, Owen, Torres, Suarez), consistently won trophies prior to winning the PL (including two CL, the 2005 final being the best ever).

[@peterburry2531]

The mid 80's were a blip for Everton... They were shit for 20 years before that and have been shit for the 30 odd years since.

[@somebawldy3789]

I think it's funny that Anfield is in Everton 😂😂😂😂

[@dan003]

Everton fan here. We are down. You can't score goals, then you cannot win games. Five games under Dyche we've scored two goals. Our top scorers are Anthony Gordon, now at Newcastle, and Demarai Gray, who doesn't start games any more. We have no strikers capable of scoring goals, and none of our midfielders ever get on the scoresheet. We may get a few more lucky wins this season against teams who are already on their holidays in the final fixtures, but it won't be anywhere near enough. I'm quite confident that we'll finish in 20th place. If ever a club was deserving of relegation, it's Everton.

[@stevenhoughton1406]

These Everton fans don't know how good they have it. I'm a Birmingham City fan we have a rubbish ground and a bunch of on loan rejects that are stuck near the bottom of the Championship. Stop moaning there are hundreds of clubs in England who would love to be constantly in the Premier League and have the money you have spent lately on players and a new ground. Birmingham has every right to be just as successful as Everton after all we are the second city with twice Liverpool's population

[@eggyfart4738]

You'll be playing Everton next season

[@davidbragger8616]

I don’t think he is the long term man for the job but i think he will do for now

[@Josh-cm9jw]

I don't see an immediate way back if Everton go down. There'll be a lot of balancing of the books going on particularly with the new ground, and unless they get sold on to competent owners, they could be in the wilderness for a very long time. As a Leeds fan, I've been there, it's not pretty. I'd like to say hopefully they avoid that, but if it's not Everton it could be us 😅

[@BobTheBlue]

Everton is the only club in the world to have built three top-tier stadiums in the same city. We will be back. UTFT💙💙💙💙

[@MrMallum]

Recruitment is the biggest problem. Get a manager to galvanise the fans and the players and stop wasting money on poor players. As a Gooner, a friendly warning: a new stadium will not guarantee success. It's all about getting the right manager to change the culture. The owner seems to be putting the money in but it's being poorly spent. At the Emirates, when Stan Kroënke became the majority shareholder, he put money in but too much faith in the wrong people (recruitment, training, attitude). A few years after the right person is in charge, we're top of the league with a real chance of winning it. Don't be too down guys! Everton are an historic club and I believe one day, they'll be lifting silverware. The fanbase is too large and passionate for the club to whither away.

[@KDC_1899]

Videographers, how would you go about making the graphics like in this video, anyone?

[@munkeypuzzle5309]

They can be dominant in the championship

[@bukayonosakadebanda7163]

Signing Benitez was the worst decision ever. They had two top class players capable of saving the team from relegation themselves, Rodriguez and digne

[@xxitactical_8723]

Dyche will keep Everton up. But that’s all he’s going to do. You should’ve really push for a manager like Frank at Brentford.

[@acewhitey9862]

Everton haven't been relevant since 95, almost 30 years ago now. Avoiding becoming another Sunderland, Forest, Birmingham each year has been their entire existence . Relegation may be a blessing if they come straight back up, alot of clubs come back completely renewed and refreshed

[@ianlayton6949]

"If you're under 35 you can't really remember Everton winning anything". Ffs - you'd have to be over 100 to remember our lot winning anything (except Div 4 title). I've always quite liked Everton - they're not the sickening, plastic football fan Glory Hunters that you mostly get in the PL. Having said that - a year or two in with real fans and real clubs in the EFL might be the grounding the club and the fans need.

[@ericstewart9189]

I am a red and Liverpool born and bred. I want Everton in the Premier League.

[@charlietwotimes]

as a kid in the 70s and 80s I remember Merseyside being the centre of English football. Everton were as big as Liverpool. That seems ludicrous now..

[@simonlewis720]

Please tell me you are joking,they had a good team but in terms of size of club liverpool where and are on a different level to most clubs in world football

[@charlietwotimes]

@@simonlewis720 To be fair, the best squad Everton probably had during that period were denied the chance to prove how good they were in Europe. Don't want to get into a debate about that but that is what happened.

[@rodrigorodders7173]

As a chelsea fan I am worried this is where Todd Bohely and co are taking us to😢

[@brianennion4832]

You'll be alright, mate. Chelsea aren't going anywhere. They just need a bit of time to bed all these players in. As an Everton fan, I can confidently say I wish we had the same problems as you.

[@johnjonesToffeeman]

Liverpool in the champions super league and Everton in League one it is unthinkable

[@Tom-se9ge]

I don’t see how a stadium move is considered something to look forward to. Arsenal, West Ham and Tottenham have all digressed after moving stadiums. Man City are the only team to prosper, obviously due to the 1 billion player investment. I know Goodison is far from fit for purpose but I can’t see how relocating instead of redeveloping is going to benefit them. Until they get someone in who can manage their spending and transfers properly, there’s no benefit to this ‘extra revenue’.

[@nothingtosee7718]

Let’s see if they get out of it. Big clubs like Wednesday have gone down and struggle to get back. Here’s hope leeds go down, certainly not a big club, just a hated one.😂

[@spartybrearly7221]

Everton have been drifting around the top tier, achieving nothing for years. A spell in the Championship is long overdue.

[@Sizdothyx]

The weird thing is that money is no object, but the players they get just aren't firing. What's going on here?

[@garyprickett339]

Nice ground for the championship

[@gamingkami9148]

If they go down they could very well spiral with how bad the club has been managed, honestly reminds me a bit of Leeds in a way.

[@wirralnomad]

It pains me as a red to see Everton doing so badly, we need a good and strong Everton so that we can return Merseyside Football back to the very top of English Football. I honestly believe that this new stadium will kill Everton, they have not been consistently bringing in enough revenue from gate receipts and prize money as well as top tier sponsorships to be able to pay for such a stadium and to build and sustain both first and reserve teams supported by strong youth teams as they had under Howard Kendall. Plus I honestly believe it to be sacrilege for Everton not to be playing at Goodison Park and I have seen far too many teams suddenly drop down to a status of non-competitiveness when they have had a new stadium constructed for them. Look at Arsenal with the Emirates for example, there they were wiping the floor with United consistently winning almost everything under Wenger and then they got themselves burdened with Stadium Costs that stripped them of the ability to sustain a strong team and they ended up as consistent also rans. What has happened with Spurs since Pochettino had them challenging for everything? I honestly felt they were half a step away from winning something nice and shiny until they got themselves lumbered with Stadium Costs and look at them now. The only thing that Everton have consistently challenged for over the last 30+ years is a place in the top flight with God knows how many relegation fights with some taking it right up until the final match of the season before they avoided the drop and now they have got themselves stuck with Stadium Costs that will prevent them from sustaining a strong enough team to compete for a place higher than 18th place. I know they seriously need to upgrade to a bigger and better stadium but even Liverpool have been cautious enough to take their upgrading one small step at a time whilst competing for trophies and managed to consistently juggle both costs of a new stadium and sustaining a strong team by taking baby steps. I believe that had both clubs spent 3 to 4 seasons sharing each clubs stadium in turn as each stadium was replaced we could have seen such big cuts to the financial costs of both teams by by up to 50% and we could have seen those very same savings of both clubs over a 6 to 8 year period being invested completely into both clubs first two teams to make them both strong enough and competetive enough to consistently compete/fight for silverware and the related prize monies plus the bigger and better sponsorship deals that come with success.

[@azharfikri8446]

I'm here just for the new stadium and the accent..

[@pietropes1322]

That fan said 'The fans are the football club' - well, that used to be true but it's not anymore tbh. The Premier League is not an English league - it's a world league - the matches just happen to be played in England (for now) The owners, managers, and players are majority non-English.....for example, there are more Premier league fans in Asia than there are in England. If the stadiums were full of tourists and invited guests the Premier League wouldn't care as the money comes from the TV audience and the worldwide online streaming audience. (Viewers in the middle east don't care who's in the seats) The local match-attending fans are of least concern to the PL, hence why they are treated so badly. Football has unfortunately moved on from what it was meant to be - local clubs for the local community - it's now a worldwide business and that has changed the game forever - and beware - the ESL is coming, PL matches being played overseas are coming (in the middle east, Asia and the US) and the local fans will eventually be lost to the game. It started with the breakaway and formation of the PL back in 1992 and it's snowballed ever since. It's all coming so don't be surprised when it happens.

[@spookybizzle]

£500m on players and building a new stadium while swimming in relegation - crazy.

[@peterburry2531]

The new stadium was desperately needed... The overpriced duds not so much.

[@chrisdawson6156]

I just hope and pray that Everton stay in the Premier league

[@georgestuart8656]

Not got the details but how much money have Everton spent since Arteta started looking for a managerial post and how much money has Arsenal spent since he got the job compared ? Fantasy football is easy though.

[@1701_FyldeFlyer]

They werent complaining when 'Uncle Uzi' was supposedly splashing his cash on them. Never their fault.

[@franciscomira2958]

Everton deserves better. Always support Everton in England. I really want to see Everton winning the Premier again.

[@williamthomson7820]

It's not "Get Carter", it's get Moyes back now!

[@craigsimons817]

Unfortunately “Greatness” in today’s game is defined by the financial wealth of a club’s owners. Were City and Chelsea (under Abramavich) successful without their billionaire backers? No, both experienced relegation when it was solely down to the clubs themselves to provide financing. Everton can be great again if they are taken over by a fiscal powerhouse, but that can be said about any football team. It’s not about the club itself anymore, it’s all about the owners.