Every 2024 LMH and LMDh EXPLAINED

[@FormulaJonah]

Quick correction! I know the video said that Lamborghini will race the SC63 at Daytona, but that is untrue! To be honest with you all, I made that part of the video before it was officially announced, and I forgot to change it! All my videos September onward (besides this one) regarding Lamborghini have the correct info! Hope you all enjoyed the video! Got 1-2 more coming this week on the 8 hours of Bahrain 🇧🇭

[@harveystrodejr.0351]

I would really like to see Ford do an LMH or LMDH car for the 2025 0r 2026 season. That would be epic. To have a Ford vs Ferrari in the top class again in endurance racing. I think alot of people would love to see them back at the top of the sport.

[@slevingaius]

Just a curious question, doesnt brands competing in IMSA this year have an advantage in WEC going into next year?

[@FormulaJonah]

Yes they should. BMW is definitely in a good place out of the four manufacturers coming in 2024, considering WRT’s experience and BMW’s IMSA 2023 season with the M Hybrid V8.

[@Calibra95]

Vanwall has possibilities to continue. Really hope they stay and work on the car performance. This type of teams are the ones who started this era of racing.

[@Benzer-jb8rg]

it's also the best sounding car on the grid. I am a fan of this team.

[@DestinysComputer]

I wish I were a billionaire so I coud just go up to Jim Glickenhaus and say, "How much do you need to continue racing?" I'm gonna miss them.

[@Tyranastrasza]

I think Jim would have been happy to race in IMSA if not for the 2500 car sell rule.

[@matsimmo6208]

@@Tyranastraszaiirc Jim said he only made the LMH because he was given verbal approval that he’d be allowed to join IMSA. Seems IMSA then backflipped on this later after he’d started racing in WEC. A lesson in always getting things written down I guess

[@TheTutch]

​@@matsimmo6208he also said he thought thered be bop 😂

[@CharlesMiddleton-ms2ng]

The 2400 rule had always been in IMSA's rules for quite a while. It was Glickenhaus that was looking for a way around it. Even if he wanted to go to court, he still would've lost. That's why he chose to race in the WEC, as the rules about production was more lax. It's what happens when you decide to race 'on the cheap', running the exact same car, season after season, with very little attempts at improvement or upgrade, and expecting the ruling interests or the BoP to reduce everyone else just to make you look competitive. They tried this until the LMDh's came in, and proved they were no match for them. Both Glickenhaus and Vanwall spent more races in the back of the line. Even the independent Porsches contested for podium finishes, and this is the first year for LMDh competing. That says a lot.

[@Calibra95]

Will back Vanwall and IF. But also will miss Glickenhaus a lot, still dreaming about a possible come back, at least just in Le Mans

[@xnotasweatx]

I believe they said they might run a car at Le Mans, but that’s it

[@Calibra95]

@@xnotasweatx all hopes there

[@ratiolibek]

I would love to see all WEC entries at Daytona grid. And Acura in WEC.

[@Xtonishing]

They will only late cuz Andretti need set up EU HQ for WTR there and will badge Honda

[@ratiolibek]

@@Xtonishing I didn't know that, great!

[@Xtonishing]

@@ratiolibek yeah plus Andretti need EU HQ for their F1 program and possible to use Honda PU and Alpine PU

[@motorsportfan1246]

Maybe the ACO could tell Kolles to sit it out for one year and further develop the aero/cooling elements so it can come back and be somewhat reliable and competitive. Give them a wildcard for Le Mans. Hopefully by 2025 we will have enough space for 40+ cars full time so they can be accommodated.

[@TheNecromancer6666]

They would also need a new engine. The Gibson GL458 (the same engine as the Rebellion R13) has around 720hp at the Clutch. So is down by 80hp on everybody else.

[@motorsportfan1246]

@@TheNecromancer6666 they just announced that Kolles switched to Pippen Motuers

[@TheNecromancer6666]

@@motorsportfan1246 That's the Glickenhauses engine. That should quite easily provide the power.

[@motorsportfan1246]

@@TheNecromancer6666 yes but they got rejected for 24

[@albertomegapro]

I hope Vanwall continues

[@FormulaJonah]

Agreed!

[@jimross5838]

I don't. Why should the ACO grant them a spot on the grid at the expense of a high quality GT3 entry who has a higher chance of competitiveness

[@KuroNeko44ttv]

@@jimross5838 They'll reach 10 manufacturers if they continue. That would be as many as in F1. They might let them enter based on this. Also ByKolles has been in WEC since 2012. They definetley have history in WEC.

[@CharlesMiddleton-ms2ng]

What they really need is a proper powertrain, from a proper manufacturer. The Gibson is too limited to give a real performance in this category, and the Aston Martin will show just that. They need a developed engine, not a stopgap.

[@KuroNeko44ttv]

@@CharlesMiddleton-ms2ng This is true. I heard they're using 75 hp less than they're allowed to. In these cars this should be at least 2 seconds per lap, maybe even more.

[@TheRundas95]

Always love your hypercar video, next year is gonna be insane

[@FormulaJonah]

Glad you enjoy the content! 2024 will definitely be awesome!

[@Bncxx1275]

2025 Will be more

[@kpl4174]

Yes but 2025 with Aston Martin and Honda will be even better not to mention potential 2026 Alfa Romeo and McLaren entries

[@purwantiallan5089]

​@@Bncxx12752025 and beyond could be way more awesome.

[@Bncxx1275]

@@kpl4174 hyundai on hydrogen class with mission h24, Toyota, Peugeot, bmw and forze ix

[@alphazeuri]

Am I the only one who thinks that at WEC they should separate the non-hybrid LMH/LMDH and place them in another separate category? as a replacement for the LMP2 Sorry if it is not understood well, my English is not very good 😅

[@legeekdechepaou411]

they should make it like in the group c era with c1 and c2 classes : hypercar for manufacturers, supercar for privateers with heavily reduced costs

[@TheTutch]

All the big names running lmdh cars would leave immediately. They may be running their programs on a somewhat tighter budget than Toyota & co but they are still trying to take overall victory at le mans (and in the series). Take them out of the fastest class of cars and they are gone

[@ronronchau]

Actually when the day they have non-hybrid LMP1s, the hybrid is still a super costly thing due to in-house parts, and development cost but currently privateer can supply it from existing solutions like Bosch, McLaren and Williams and they're readily available and cheaper to supply a whole motor-battery-driver solution instead of developing a whole hybrid from scratch, like how LMDh does Being non-hybrid as privateer in this day is more being a placeholder than a genuine competitor, unless you have some weird thought or being as based as Aston brings cosworth V12 back to the grid

[@garycarmichael8432]

I don’t see the point of Vanwall continuing with their project. It would make more sense for Bycoles to see about getting a customer LMDH car. A lot cheaper to run than an LMH and as the customer teams have to have all cars as the same spec as the factory cars. Saying that though, Bycoles probably wouldn’t meet the requirements needed to run a customer team.

[@TheTutch]

Tbh this season they mostly got attention for crashing, causing others to crash and being overtaken by lmp2s. I dont see them putting themselves and others through another season of that

[@spdwy777]

I put the equitus sponsorship on the scg 007h. It was a great run. Jim was a man among machines...

[@lee.melvin-racing]

I super love ❤❤❤❤ FIA world endurance championships always

[@francisbissonnette80]

This is like a dream come true!

[@styrianrebel8143]

Hello, thank you for your work! although as an Austrian viewer of your channel, I sometimes find it difficult with my school English, which will soon be more than 30 years old, I am 42 myself to understand or comprehend everything. Yes, use a translator as a little help :D I have a question. Let me expand a little. On Saturday I watched the complete 8 hours of Bahrain. Immensely cool race. On Sunday, I was looking through the comments on KZbin on the WEC channel, and I noticed something about a topic that has been on my mind for a while. The Balance of Performance. There were comments about the race like: The Toyota fair BOP... Toyota #8 was already considerably ahead of the competition after an hour & Toyota #7 made up a lot of ground in time after the push from the Cadillac in the first corner after the start Porsche made up a lot of ground in the last races of the GTP class and led for 4 hours in Fuji and Jota Porsche had an exciting duel with Ferrari in Bahrain Cadillac was allowed to go 7 kilos lighter, but never caught up in Bahrain after the 90 second penalty. What do you think? Would both classes be better, GTP/Hypercar, without BOP? Or, as the WEC presenter said in Sebring: The teams, with the exception of Toyota, will be test teams in 2023 and will first have to grow into racing teams? Despite the BOP? Can the difference between GTP and hypercar be compensated for without BOP? Greetings

[@purwantiallan5089]

Well thats kinda nice.

[@ssk-_-dotz3773]

I honestly feel like they should take out BOP.. BOP removes the whole “who’s the better manufacturer “ question

[@styrianrebel8143]

@@ssk-_-dotz3773 I can't remember where I read that. Toyota & Ferrari were ridiculed by politicians for being better manufacturers in the WEC. FIA, ACO, IMSA & other manufacturers like Porsche want the principle of equality. Please do not misunderstand. I like the WEC. Experienced its atmosphere this year in Spa at the 6-hour race and will watch it again in 2024. Thursday work, Friday 1000km Austria Belgium, Saturday race, Sunday 1000km Belgium Austria return and Monday back to work. As a Toyota fan and also a Toyota driver in my private life, I was somehow amazed when Toyota still came second in Le Mans despite the difficulties with the lap times, the performance of the GR010, the extra 30 kg and Hirakawa's mistake. What fascinates me about the squad as a whole is the team spirit. Where else can you see that when a Hirakawa was close to tears at the podium ceremony and a Buemi tried to console him. And despite everything, Ferrari delivered the whole season. But you can't afford a faux pas like the one in Bahrain in 2024. Despite the BOP, the atmosphere within the WEC and the line-up of manufacturers, it currently remains by far the most attractive racing series. As I said, the BOP is something that will also be on my mind in 2024. Greetings from Austria.

[@AloneRacecar]

Let’s hope that these new entries in LMH will make an impression!

[@Shootout_23]

Next year me and my dad are planning to see our first Le Mans race and I’m really excited for all the new cars!

[@FormulaJonah]

That’s awesome! Hope you and your dad have a great time!

[@Shootout_23]

@@FormulaJonah Thanks! I really hope for the best.

[@purwantiallan5089]

I just hope Vanwall and ByKolles returned in 2024 FIA WEC season. Those cars are already iconic...😢

[@KohliN7]

I mainly support BMW in Lmdh and IF in LMH.

[@SamuelRR31]

Could you do one on all the GT3 cars next year please?

[@motorsportfan1246]

Corvette 2x TF Sport Porsche 2x Manthey BMW 2x WRT Ferrari 2x AF Corse Lamborghini 2x Iron Lynx Ford 2x Proton Lexus 2x Akkodis Aston Martin 2x HoR? (Potential) Mercedes 1x Unknown Audi 2x Sainteloc (unlikely) Honda interest expressed Bentley customer interest rumoured

[@NikitaOnline17]

Wait the Valkyrie is actually happening !?? Nice!

[@BDMotorsport]

Awesome video - very well explained and presented. So excited for sportscars next year!

[@CobraFerrariFth]

Hopefully Ferrari can with the 499P next year fight for the Title

[@salmanfarruz]

I support Toyota as the topdog and Isotta Fraschini as the underdog. In IMSA, I support the Acura but I want them to enter the WEC as Honda.

[@scarface9767]

im all time toyota and ferrari fan but i will love to see that alpine hit the track and race i love the sound of its engine with the turbos reminds me the group c era

[@chrisl211]

Hi Jonah. Do you have any news about the Pescarolo program with the Peugeot 9x8 next season? We haven't heard from them since May.

[@manuelmanterola7070]

last i saw it ran out of money

[@louiienation8497]

A very interesting line up for 2024!! I wonder if Imsa and WEC will merge into one giant series in the near future

[@kpl4174]

I will be following how Isotta Fraschini does

[@SultanNizi3000GT]

I'm supporting BMW next year!

[@ssk-_-dotz3773]

I’m not a huge fan of BMW (I’m a Mercedes guy) but WRT is one of my favourite teams so I guess as well as this year I am forced to support bmw😂

[@blackhorsegaming393]

I love how Lamborghini is getting the "its my first time treatment" lol. Im here for team ferrari glad to see this class take off . All we need is Bugatti and Koenigsegg to show up and we have a party

[@ssk-_-dotz3773]

Bugatti and koenigsegg would be pretty sick

[@jacksonbarinowski3966]

I would love to see a Walkenhorst M Hybrid V8

[@Robintalesfighter]

It's funny how in 2022 I was rooting for Vanwall to get on the grid, and for 2024 I'm hoping they get off the grid. I get why people like them, they're kind of like "the little guy that could", especially now that Glickenhaus are gone. But honestly, up to this point they've been a meme. What's the point of having a team that is always at the back of the grid? Especially considering their effords at convincing the ACO they're a "manufacturer" come down to stripping the rear wing of their racecar and rolling it down a hill, plus making renders in blender/photoshop where they add their own bodykit to a Hyundai. (seriously, at some point they literally photoshopped an IONIQ5 in camo to pretend they were actually testing the car. People found the original image and the post has since been removed) But other than Vankolles, the hypercar and GTP classes look really exciting, and with even more potential manufacturers on the horizon, stuff is only about to get better.

[@RicoOCHO85]

Only reason i got back into Wec and watched imsa was cause of Caddy..man did i wish they were more competitive in WEC..got. apodium at lemans so thats a plus

[@cartermcmasters2874]

Vanwall has the coolest looking car

[@FormulaJonah]

Yeah! That Vandervell 680 is so cool!

[@drivingduck2234]

only now that the Glickenhaus left...

[@phildunne7260]

Thanks FJ, I support Porsche, mainly because Audi aren’t there and former Audi star Andre Lotterer is driving for them.

[@Kroockartorias]

can you do the same for lmgt3 in wec ?

[@FormulaJonah]

Yes! I plan to release it this month!

[@robthecatwillshire7429]

I read that the Lamborghini were skipping the first round of IMSA for more testing time and joining at Sebring.

[@FormulaJonah]

Oh yes that was a mistake! To be honest I made that part of the video before it was officially announced, and I forgot to change it! All my videos September onward (besides this one) regarding Lamborghini have the correct info!

[@aaronneoceinn9542]

2024 will be exciting, i wonder if Toyota will dominate again considering this year

[@FormulaJonah]

My thoughts exactly!

[@garycarmichael8432]

I would imagine so, saying that though, it’d be great if there is some stiff competition for Toyota next year. With a year under their belt, Ferrari, Porsche and Cadillac could close the gap. Also with Peugeot tweaking their car, that could help.

[@salmanfarruz]

As a Toyota fan, I hope they won't be as dominant. I wouldn't even mind if they don't win the championship but I hope they'll win Le Mans. I feel like they're robbed at Le Mans this year. I certainly don't want them to finish 2 minutes ahead of the other cars.

[@nicolasl8210]

A point of view on the Bahrein WEC 2023 Rookie Tests Session?

[@ludinalemans]

I think in the current economical situation it is so hard for the private teams in the top class to find a decent sponsor . Testing, Windtunnel, upgrades are so expensive. The Vanwall had to struggle with the best LMP2 laptimes. And unfortunately what I see on the Isota Franchiti tests the laptimes are only on LMP2 level too.

[@Robintalesfighter]

it kinda difffers with Isotta. The times they got during testing in Monza would've gotten them in the top 5 in qualifying for the 2023 6 hours of Monza

[@Harmonic14]

​@@Robintalesfighter conditions and tire choice make a massive impact on times. Also if the car isn't homologated yet, they could be running an aero config that's not approved

[@ezequielsanuy8895]

Lmp1 comes back again. They lower the specs to start new classes but they are rising the performamce of the cars more and more what will result in new lmp1 cars after some time. Eventually the cars will reach lmp1 performance specs again.

[@drivingduck2234]

I heard a rummor that The Acuras might go to le mans rebranded as Hondas... if thats the case, i dont belive Vanwall will start the 2024 season: their star driver Esteban Guerrieri is a Honda driver and they probablily were just puting him in the Vanwall car to gain experience. I would love to see a Honda car with Albuquerque, Guerrieri and Deletraz

[@maxb148]

If Honda/Acura don't have a car in WEC they are unable to race at Le Mans and from reports I have seen they are not likely to have any Hypercar on the grid for next year and are waiting to see if LMDh cars can be competitive in WEC before joining. Also do you remember where you heard the rumour?

[@drivingduck2234]

@@maxb148 portuguese nacional press during the podcast post the petit le mans race. The rumor just said that the organization of the Acura teams would change would the possibility of also changing to honda and going to le mans.

[@drivingduck2234]

@@maxb148 so basicly you need at least one car in wec to race in the 24h of le mans? What abaut all those years corvette did the gte-lm class?

[@GhibliNova]

Glickenhaus needs to sell some road cars to fund their racing a la Ferrari

[@Michaelbrl638]

Could u do a video on the lmgt3 cars

[@azumafurqaniramadanta4426]

Always support TOYOTA GR!

[@alexisbrisseau9766]

Do you have any news on lmgt3 entries ?

[@aryantotanoto2307]

Toyota still reign the following year's if others in WEC can't even make progress to even beat in some race because this year Toyota dominated the race and in GTP also the same if others can beat Cadillac next year even in 1 race then Cadillac will dominate the race like this year

[@Pewnhound112]

BMW’s LMDH car was sooooo lacking for pace in IMSA this season, I hope WRT does a better job with it than RLR is doing.

[@gtone339]

2024 will be a banger in sportscar racing! F1 who?! 🤣🤣

[@dgomes265]

Will be close between Ferrari and Toyota.

[@zjaranay5874]

Are Peugeot planning to make an evo version of the 9X8?

[@Tyranastrasza]

yes

[@maxb148]

Kind of, they are basically overhauling the 9X8 for next year if they are allowed to. And per reports they will be scraping the wingless and ground effect design and going down the traditional rear wing design like every other car.

[@markswasey4301]

Support: Ferrari #1, Lamborghini #2, Isotta Fraschini #3

[@able-fox]

Can we just go ahead and make a Toyota category?

[@TheNecromancer6666]

Kolles/Vanwall dont deserve a grid slot. Lets just take the engine. They know, they have to deliver between 500 and 520kW to the wheels for the current BoP. That means they need around 600kW at the Clutch. At least. They knowingly bought an engine with only 520-550kW at the crank. Minus around 15% gearbox losses thats 468kW at the wheels. They knowingly accepted a deficit of at least 32kW. Kolles is frankly too incompetent to deserve to race at WEC. Or anywhere.

[@giratina_86]

i want ferrari to win wec, and the BoP to dont be a joke, its all good behind the toyotas, but does it, its not balanced

[@maxb148]

In defence of BoP, coming from a neutral fan, it isnt there to make Toyota slower and isnt a success ballast, it is to make everyones maximum performance as equal to each other. If Toyota who have run the car for 2 more years than anyone else is able to reach that potential and all new teams are falling short that is not the BoPs fault, thats on the teams. And all the teams said this at the start of the season, that Toyota was going to be the quickest because they know how to get the most out of the car, and that showed this year. Am I saying the BoP is completely accurate, no, am I saying it is more accurate than certain fans like to make out, yes.

[@wingnut4200]

Great job. I have become an IMSA and WEC fan since F1 has just gotten boring.

[@ronieclemente8597]

Toyota

[@alialibeyoglu7532]

Are Lamborghini race in Daytona ? I remember they won't gonna make a debut in Daytona.

[@FormulaJonah]

Mistake on my part! Lamborghini’s will not race Daytona. Tbh I made that part of the video before the info on their cars not racing at Daytona, and I forgot to change it! My bad

[@SareN36]

Press F Glickenhaus🫡

[@omarferro6153]

Bop is going to screw everything up

[@craigmoy5428]

Mercedes is the obvious stand out non player. With GT3 the new other category, they must be asking questions particularly as they have built a real road going hypercar, McLaren also another miss for now

[@eamonahern7495]

I don't think vanwall are continuing.

[@ventisette.]

Vanwall will continue until Colin Kolles and his father run out of money to launder.

[@torque-drive2488]

Wec bullshit bop killed vanwall and glickenhaus

[@Harmonic14]

They were given max power and minimum weight. They needed to show up with better cars

[@yomammaspoodle]

Toyota won't be in LMH, they're clearly their own category that doesn't have to comply to the same BoP restrictions as the rest of LMH cars. Ridiculous.

[@milesr4609]

Toyota was the heaviest car on the grid all year. FIA even helped Ferrari in Le mans. Stop crying, Toyota was simply the best thanks to their experience (mostly managing tyre wear), learn a little more instead of talking bull.

[@maxb148]

Even if Toyota had a bad BoP they still would be quick, they have 2 years of knowledge over every other team. They know how to race their car and get the most out of it. BoP is about making all the cars maximum pace as close to each other, if Toyota are the only team to be able to reach that maximum potential that's ever other teams fault for being slow. I am not saying that Toyota didn't have the best BoP, but even if they didn't they still would have won (not as by as big of a margin) through knowledge and knowing how to race in WEC.

[@ssk-_-dotz3773]

I honest feel like they should take out BOP because then that way we get to see the real manufacturing prowess

[@milesr4609]

@@ssk-_-dotz3773 it would be similar, but Toyota would be doing several laps to the others instead of several seconds...

[@ollie311]

The van wall should be dropped it’s a waste of an entry

[@garycarmichael8432]

I agree. With so many manufacturers coming into the Hypercar class, the privateers are going to struggle. Porsche has customer and works teams and Ferrari are looking at running an additional car next year. When the other manufacturers become more established they may also have customer and works teams too.

[@motorsportfan1246]

That argument is valid for next year, but for this year? I’d take a hypercar over an AM entry regardless of how slow it is. And honestly a potential hypercar entry should always have priority over something like a gt3/e entry