Why is the Porsche 963... Underwhelming?

[@jsrsnakez7813]

I am aware that I literally just reverse jinxed them... GGs 💀

[@DuvJones]

You might not have.... they had a rather commanding win at the Road America.

[@kenchen704]

@@DuvJonesonly because Toyota and Ferrari are not racing them 💀 Porsche is LMP2 speeds in WEC

[@DuvJones]

@@kenchen704 Road America with not a WEC race, it was a IMSA race. To which their biggest concern ends up being Acura/Honda.

[@kenchen704]

@@DuvJones that’s my point 💀 there’s no Toyota and Ferrari to embarrass Porsche because it’s not WEC

[@ananastudio]

@@kenchen704 WEC BOP is a joke. Look at the lap time differences between IMSA and WEC at Sebring and it clearly shows that WEC needs to fix their BOP

[@II-Dabolpaepus]

Very good summery. As a fellow Porsche Fan, I can agree that this season so far is extremely hard to watch but like you said Porsche operates in both IMSA and WEC, plus has the most cars so they have by far the most data to work with over the Winter. Most people seem to forget that the now legendary 919 was also underwhelming in its first season (2014) with only one win in Sao Paulo at the end of the season (3rd and 9th in the Championship). In 2015 they won 6 out of 8 races (1st and 3rd in the Championship), therefore I have big hopes that we might see a Porsche resurgence in 2024.

[@n8pls543]

If that fails they can always just fill half the grid with Porsches and have the best statistical chance of winning, that worked before.

[@II-Dabolpaepus]

That's a good point. But what if both happens? I know that's big hopium but they fill the grid and the the 963 becomes a good car. The return of 1983.

[@KavinRamchandran]

You're not alone. I'm also a Porsche fan, and throughout the year, I keep reminding myself about the underwhelming debut of the 919 in 2014 and how it evolved to become an icon. I still have hope that the 963 will be fighting at the front next year, not to sound like a [Formula One] Ferrari fan.

[@BlasterJunos]

Personally my comfort comes from the fact that Porsche is still doing pretty well in GT3, all things considered. After all, the 911 is the car we can buy, so seeing it doing well gives me peace of mind that Porsche's 911 still remains a beast

[@vwjetta4138]

@@n8pls543but back then those cars were privateers, usually the works factory backed cars won the race, so that doesn’t really make much sense

[@porsche.963]

The one thing ive noticed with 963 is that it gets faster in night conditions Daytona-Tandy was actually fighting the #60 Sebring-Was actually fighting to win Le Mans ending up leading with all 4 963s at points

[@julianturberfield7101]

The Nissans were the same under the previous rules. Decidedly mediocre for most of the season, then blitzing people at night at Atlanta and Daytona.

[@barney172]

Probably the cooler temps at night help the car massivly. It seems to be hard on it's tires which helps building up heat which they probably did because there are no tyre warmers normally in IMSA or WEC besides Le Mans and turbocharged engines can run better while in cooler conditions. A good exsample of this was Spa till the cars starting having problems. The Ferrari struggling to get the tyres up to temp and the Porsches seemingly blizzing out of the pits.

[@deadleg6]

Most turbocharged cars are like that.

[@Dexter-nw2fe]

​@@julianturberfield7101nissans?

[@AfterburnerGSXR]

I’m a huge Porsche Penske Motorsports. The Porsche 963 won the Rolex 24 at Daytona today. I couldn’t be happier. The 963 is the most beautiful GTP car ever.

[@c3gfboy7]

and the clean sweep at qatar: 1 - 2 - 3

[@Crasher1982]

She's gotten better this year.

[@Crasher1982]

3rd place at long beach, won daytona and 3rd at sebring too.

[@vwjetta4138]

Leading the championship in both IMSA and WEC, plus wins at Laguna Seca, Daytona, and Qatar and Hertz Team Jota winning in Spa

[@user-xi9py8es1s]

BOP got me buggin

[@akifhossain5122]

It got Toytaboys maldin

[@BPF80MCar-vi1pg]

I absolutely Haye BOP

[@askeladden450]

All my homies hate bop

[@LJW1912]

What's wrong with B.O.P.?

[@skyhigh6089]

It's an abomination. But if it's used to favor the WEC teams which invested in their own cars from scratch as opposed to the cheap IMSA "buy what Multimatic, Dallara or Oreca have" it's justifiable.

[@lennoxbaumbach390]

What really stuck with me from this years Le Mans, was certainly the golden Jota 963, they too faced alot of setbacks, including alot of damage which took them out for good eventually. But seeing them fighting their way back towards the lead, again and again was still hugely impressive and inspiring, regardless. ...I guess the livery color also helped quite a bit with maintaing peoples attention, I love it.

[@herozero8809]

Not have the car to test for very long at all - face issue and qualify last - saved by aitkins weird spin that seemed like the car just decided to spit him out into a spin, his one and only spin the of the 24 hrs, whilst his teammates spun a dozen times throughout the night - look incredibly racy and tears through the field - stop earlier because you went rich to catch up - be in the prime position when another safety car comes out and you don't need to pit - pit????? - drop back - profit????????. It's so weird but perfectly shows the issues the Porsche has, wtf is penske doing when Jota in their 2nd race with the car make it look like a COMPLETELY DIFFERENT CAR

[@valentin7574]

Completely agree, sadly the Jota Porsche had many issues at Le Mans but none of them were due to how the team ran it. That's why I'm thinking the 963 is a well-born car but Penske struggles with it especially in WEC due to lack of experience.

[@j.paulm.1575]

Me: sees this video. "How is the car that's winning all the races underwhelming?" Also me: checks date of video's release. "Oh, that makes sense."

[@fernando.espaniol.alonso]

didn t win le mans ... :(

[@larsrichter858]

Classic Porsche. Sucking in Year 1 and absolutly smashing it in Year 2 just watch

[@vwjetta4138]

True that

[@kben24]

I feel like the Porsche & Cadillac Lmdh cars in WEC are being balanced with each other, instead of being freed up to race against the LMH cars.

[@tjroelsma]

Wasn't Penske saying during the first race in the US that their Porsche's were quite heavily ballasted due to the BoP? It seems like the WEC "erred on the safe side" when ballasting Porsche, thinking that Porsche would have an advantage against Cadillac & Toyota because of..... reasons?

[@elizacevert4017]

@@tjroelsmawhich is a bit of a massive oversight seeing as the majority of the Porsche LMDh operation is brand new, especially on the engineering and mechanic side of things.

[@tjroelsma]

@@elizacevert4017 That's why I said "reasons", because if the WEC has actually made that decision, it doesn't make any sense.

[@Puntatacosimuladores]

@@tjroelsmathe gt3 porsche was not the LMDh Currently the Acura is the one with most ballast in IMSA and Toyota and Ferrari are the ones that got hit harder by the bop if we look at their power to weight ratio

[@tjroelsma]

@@Puntatacosimuladores Well, I said it was Penske who claimed that Porsche was being held back by the BoP, so that statement might have been an excuse for the lack of performance their Porsche's showed. This consistent lack of performance is remarkable though, as Porsche usually gets it pretty much right from the start in a new category.

[@deepankar2303]

Whose here after the Rolex 24 win

[@mieshta6607]

Yeah this ain’t aging well. Porsche was fixing the bugs all last year on the car

[@MGK-fm9hc]

Great video recapping Porsche’s story so far. I believe these regulations have worked a treat as most teams have been competitive at times. It won’t be long till we see Porsche batting for wins again, as a Ferrari fan I can’t wait for the Ferrari v Porsche fights!

[@AntaripChoudhury-z5n]

If it does end up happening, it'll be like the early 70s all over again!

[@OscarZheng50]

@@AntaripChoudhury-z5n just with a lot of other top manufacturers also in the fight

[@MiguelGarcia-vj7oo]

​@@AntaripChoudhury-z5n you mean the entire 70s decade and most of the 80s........

[@AntaripChoudhury-z5n]

@@MiguelGarcia-vj7oo Well no... Sure, Porsche were involved during the entire 70s and 80s but Ferrari left in '73.

[@kriegpanzer61]

Speaking of Ferrari, the Italians been on fire on WEC this and next year, we have lamborghini and Isotta fraschini entering the race next year, rumor also that Alfa Romeo also considering join LMH class, exciting times ahead, another golden age of WEC is upon us (correction lamborghini join lmdh IMSA regulation, interesting, it's seem IMSA regulation is more tempting than WEC lmh, because so many manufacturer join IMSA regulation)

[@c3gfboy7]

so....who wants to tell him?

[@Deadorphanss]

Lookin at this 1yr later they are garenteed to win the gtp insa championship

[@martrex5477]

And also Porsche Penske is in a very strong position to win WEC World Championship as well

[@rafaywasayshafay3655]

Now, a year and a half later, 8 time race winner, 27 podiums, 6 pole positions, the only LMDH to win a WEC race, the only hypercar/gtp to sweep the podium. Never underestimate Porsche and their programs

[@eskeleto707]

As a long time Porsche fan myself, I can definitely hear the disappointment in your voice hahaha I am happy to say, however, I was there at Long Beach to see them win!!!!!!!!!

[@cezarb4047]

I think its a pattern for Porsche. Even going back to their 917 days, first year is always development. 956/962 did bang it out the box but then again the engine and systems were passed on from 936… so who knows. The 919 also had a meh year first time out so I’m looking forward to what they can do next year 👌👌👌

[@g-low6365]

as i said in another comment. just give them time. 2014 was similar.

[@johnsullivan937]

I'm watching lemans right now every night before bed, I'm about half way through. It certainly seems like porsche have picked up the pace and are getting quite a bit more competitive. The main issue I see plaguing them is reliability. They've had so many races where they'd absolutely have gotten a podium finish just completely botched after electrical issues. They were actually surprising me quite a bit at lemans, sometimes fighting and keeping up with toyota, peugeot, cadillac and ferrari. Which is a far cry from races earlier in the year where it just felt like they werent even competing in the same class. I'm really excited for next year, hopefully most of the electrical/mechanical gremlins can get snuffed out, and with 4 more manufacturers heading over to wec its going to be a proper site to behold. I cant believe they are coming to my local track at cota, I'm beyond ecstatic.

[@DuvJones]

There seems to be two things that really hurt the 963.... First is the reliability, and some of that isn't down to Porsche. For example.... at Daytona... that 30min garage work, that was for the spec electric battery. It failed. Porsche doesn't make that part, Williams does and it's been a thing all season that supply is constrained. Still, some of this IS in Porsche's control and it's been bad. Their is a instance in Monza where the 38 Jota..... De Costa was just slamming on the wheel as it just cut out, as he entered the pits and could not run the speed limiter for the pits. Taking a penalty for that. The other thing isn't so much top speed, tho that is an issue. It's the aero? I don't know why, but hearing some of the drivers talk on WEC Full Access about the 963 problems at Monza, the aero seems to have been coming up a lot. That is likely a harder fix to keep the vehicle in compliance. There have been other smaller things, like tires... it eats them, a bit higher than normal (and WEC [sans LeMans] stopped using tire warmers this year). And well, bugs in the software (See the Spa race). I will say this much... I think that the 963, when things are going for it... it's something as it flies, it might have the pace in it to keep up with the 499P/GR010. However, this season seems to be a "death by a thousand cuts". When the problems do show, it's never been a consistence one thing that fails. I will be honest, I think that it would be asking a lot out of Porsche in it's first Hypercar/GTP season given that it's it first run at this after years away, partly why Team Penske is involved in the factory effort to be blunt. Peugeot has had a miserable two seasons (half of 2022 and all of this one) but by LeMans, things have been looking up... It will still take time to get Porsche up to speed with its car, but it should be in the fight when they do.

[@wolfthiel1894]

@@DuvJones It seems like the car might have issues with the aero balance leading to tire wear and drive difficulty, but hopefully the aero can be fixed relatively easily for next year.

[@DuvJones]

@@wolfthiel1894 Hopefully but aero issues tend to be a structural challenge, and again their is only so much they can do to be compliant. We'll have to see. The only good news of this season... in WEC at least, they have been in the mid pack of hypercar, so they are fighting.

[@omara9648]

The quality of this video was amazing, I fully expected you to have over 100k subs. You have a lot of talent & are very good at keeping viewers engaged, keep it up!!

[@Seyeler]

Genuinely wondering about the reliability of the spec hybrid system. Yeah it may be cheaper but sheesh being able to QC your own system seems like a huge benefit. It’s expensive, but not that expensive.

[@f0en966]

Coming back after the Quatar 1812 seeing that it Aged like Milk Lol

[@13thMonkeyz]

Their first season in WEC with the LMP1 back in 2014 wasn,t great either, with only a win at Interlagos. We still have Fuji and Interlagos to come in WEC and they had a nice commanding win at Road America with Indianapolis and Road Atlanta still to come. i reckon 2024 could be really good for Porsche. Regardless i enjoyed the video. Thumbs up!

[@haryosoo]

I kinda think the limiting factor of the Porsche proto endurance program in WEC is their platform of choice. Yeah the LMDH is a more cost-effective than hypercar but it has more restrictions. Oh also the BoP in WEC so far hasn't helped any LMDH cars to be more competitive against hybrid hypercars. I won't be surprised if there's no LMDH cars winning a WEC race this season.

[@TassieLorenzo]

" I won't be surprised if there's no LMDH cars winning a WEC race this season." It seems grossly unfair to penalise Ferrari and Toyota for building better racing cars and to penalise them so heavily to the point of LMDh cars winning races IMO. If anything it is a relief that the two properly engineered, thoroughly developed cars are at the front as they should be, in spite of carrying the most BOP ballast. The idea that you should be able to just stick an old LMP2 engine (Porsche), or old DTM engine (BMW) or F2 engine (Alpine) in an LMP2 with some stylised bodywork and be given "by rights" a high probability of winning the 24 hour Le Mans or WEC races (against much higher budget cars that have been traditionally engineered in the F1--like LMP1 way) just seems crazy.

[@sciath1841]

At the Glenn, the #6 Porsche had its victory and all it's points from that race taken away because it failed the post race inspection. Allegedly, when the post race inspection was conducted, the officials found the #6 car was less than one millimeter too low. This is what Porsche Penske came out saying after the race. Seriously? Less than one millimeter not only ruined Porsche Penske's only victory, but put them at a huge point deficit after getting 0 points from that race when every other car except the #24 BMW got points. That one millimeter might ruin their chance at the championship too.

[@vwjetta4138]

I feel the same way, especially since I went to the race in person. Getting disqualified for something so minor that can be caused by anything is completely unfair and might’ve cost them the championship this year. The 963 has had a strong run so far this year other than Daytona and Mosport.

[@nickhowatson4745]

bro thats shits a literal space ship

[@paulreilly3904]

Good video sir. I'm a big endurance fan and there's so much going on I'm struggling to figure it all out. And you've helped answer the very question I had about Porsche. More please.

[@deadleg6]

Funny you released this video a few days before the IMSA road America race. Porsche ended up dominating that race start to finish.

[@Bozar069]

Give them time to get the car figured out and make improvements and Porsche will once again be a force. Porsche and Penske are real winners. Its hard to say they can return to their former dominance with bop and the large field but they won't take this lying down.

[@welltorium]

this video was so true at the time, just for the 963 to become so great in 2024

[@OscarZheng50]

IMSA's sebring was an interesting race to say the least. it would've been one of porsche's best result with the 963 hypercar and they were so close to winning the race, unfortunate that incident happened and collected both porsches. Watkins Glen too, porsche had potential to win there but they got disqualified by the smallest of margins.

[@user-xi9py8es1s]

I’v been questioning some of the Cadillac drivers’ abilities throughout the season

[@ALLRNDCRICKETER]

​@@user-xi9py8es1sWestbrook in Portugal locking up coming into the pitlane ruined their race. Bit of a weak link there

[@maximus0g933]

They did still get the podium with #6 at the 12h though technically, people seem to be forgetting.

[@Giratina575]

That race made me despise Wayne Taylor and Felipe Albuquerque. Reckless morons the whole lot of them. And the glen was complete BS.

[@DuvJones]

@@user-xi9py8es1s Cadillac drivers seem to have their hands full with a car that just seems to be fighting them all the way. It's the simplest Hypercar/GTP on the grid, cross-plane V8 with spec battery and motor, but they way that they have been driving is... aggressive, to put it mildly. They are "grabbing this thing by the collar" in every single race. It's impressive driving, but it is a knife's edge that they are playing with which has cut often.

[@shawness93]

Seems like the Multimatic chassis is a dud. Porsche should have know better.

[@pedromakotto3344]

yeah man, i'm also a porsche fan and i'm little disappointed with 963, but , hey, things started slowly even with legends as the 919 back in the day

[@brrrake]

Great video, Snakez! I still want a Porsche.

[@biodegradablexiao]

I am happy that I believed in this car. 1-2-3 Qatar ❤

[@LeftUnderSounds]

It's won twice in IMSA and is starting to be competitive. It's hardly underwhelming bar Le Mans which was a shocker. It's the first year... Give the car time to be ironed out.

[@fga00090]

Great video, there's definitely room to grow on KZbin regarding hypercars / lmdh content. Keep it up!

[@Gerodon]

Thank you for summarizing all the pain I had to endure this year, I have faith Porsche will come back with the 963.

[@Gerodon]

And not even 24h later I watched a 963 win at Road America, happy.

[@Gerodon]

Hehe. The 963 seems to be a strong contender at almost every race now. :)

[@newone-gd9sk]

16:15 I love how the caddy crashed in front of a Porsche safety car or whatever it was! Great video!

[@jdbb3gotskills]

I couldn't believe that double DNF at the 12h of Sebring when I was watching 👀

[@Giratina575]

Yep thanks to argy bargy WTR. No respect for them . Hope someone puts them off track

[@prestonm.64]

This is a really high-quality video. I’m surprised you don’t have more subscribers.

[@Holoflux]

I have to say some of it is feeling like the balancing is inherently towards Hybrid Hypercars having an inherent advantage to the less purpose built and fine tuned LMDhs with their Homologated Chassis and Hybrid Power Units

[@schoolgalarza]

Extremely professionally made video good sir. Please make more long form content like this

[@peterflynn9123]

As an LmDh - is is REALLY a porsche? Or a Multimatic with a porsche engine..... soz but buying a kit car isnt in the same commitment league as LMH so they deserve to be behind toyota, ferrari and peugeot

[@bk_nreynolds3278]

I was not expecting your sub count to be as low as it is (I’m not rubbing it in fr). Video was excellent, commentary was witty and to the point and I throughly enjoyed it. Definitely going to subscribe. Keep it up dude

[@JaymondoGB]

Because its not really a Porsche, but a new gen LMP2 car. Porsche went with the cheaper option. Hopefully in time, they will see the light and build a LMH

[@TheNecromancer6666]

Do you remember how useless the 919 was 2014? In 2015 they were up there with Audi, way ahead of Toyota. And Porsche just getting less unlucky.

[@haydonclampitt]

this was some historically funny timing

[@jorhop4005]

Just came across this channel and I see motorcycles, F1, Nascar and sportscar. Excited to see where this channels goes.

[@JamesWilson234]

Amazing video. Well put together and sums up the Porsche plight so far very well!

[@WilliamJOHNSONJR]

I have only casually observed this new "LMH /LMDh" business, but as a fellow Porsche freak, I gotta think the problem is that the 963, is not a 100% Porsche design as it is LMDh using a chassis made by somebody, and common stuff to other cars. To win, and assert the dominance that is expected from a successor of the 962 ... Porsche has to stop half stepping, and do a 100% Porsche design. Norby Singer spoiled us... The 956 /962 proved to be such a killer extension of 917 greatness, that "excellence is expected". First place, is not enough. First through seventh place ? ... Yeah ! More like it ! Yeah, this new crap allows more lesser folk to compete ,and has bunch of brands competing ...But for my $$$ , (about $0.02 US) Racing has to advance technology. Push beyond current limits. Do great things. This "leveling" may be fun if you are a slot car racer (I am) ... But prototype has to be ultimate , killer state of the art stuff... Yeah ,the $$$ involved runs everybody else out ... Maybe this LMH business, can be a not quite "hypercar" (as old LMP 1's are supposedly much faster) and still allow LMP to be the real "Hypercar". The new Toyota, 11 seconds slower that the LMP Toyota ? (at Le Mans ?) ... That's just going backwards ...

[@rnako-_-]

Porsche did just win at Road America ISMA yesterday

[@MrSabumaru]

i just found this ... and just laughed so hard ... after yesterdays race :D

[@KD-oi9sk]

It sounds mega, but they really should have built an LMh.

[@shawness93]

Multimatic chassis is trash

[@OumuamuaOumuamua]

@@shawness93only thing it has going for it is looks

[@A.F.Whitepigeon]

I said this after Daytona, and so far, it's proving to be true: Porsche's struggles are eerily similar to those of Mazda and Acura; that is to say, typically very fast on a single lap and often highly competitive over a full season, but plagued with myriad struggles at the (much longer) blue-riband events. Remember that the engine of the 963 is the only bit that's pure Porsche, with not much else of this effort in common with their successful programs in GTE Pro and LMP1. The chassis is built by Multimatic, and the operations are handled by Penske. While these organizations are, on paper, highly capable outfits, recent history indicates that Stuttgart may not have done their homework. Multimatic's LMP2 chassis has always been a turd, and even with years of work, their Mazda-powered DPi never achieved much, despite lightning-fast quali pace. Meanwhile, the Acura DPi was the best car in the later years of the category in the hands of WTR and MSR, but when Penske had exclusive rights to run it, it never quite matched the Cadillac in endurance events.

[@dra911]

Because it's a car that was a joint project with Audi and subsequently went off the rails when Audi pulled out and they were left holding the remains - that is, a chassis without an engine. Playing catch-up ever since. Yes, it's painful...

[@xnotasweatx]

Glickenhaus will stay, SGC, Toyota, and Alpine are the sole reason LMH survived

[@neoguaren]

I think that a brand with the prestige and technical capacity of Porsche should have opted for the LMH class, which has proven to be superior to the LMDh even with the BOP applied. But the commercial interest was put forward...

[@sebastianschmidt1595]

Awesome video, mate! The algorithm did well for once, hehe. Let's hope Road America was a sign of things to come!

[@worlow1841]

Watching imsa and wec as a Porsche fan this year has been pure pain. But we'll be back...

[@legoferrari14]

Compared to the previous two big Penske-Porsche collaborations; the 917/30 Group 7 from the 70's and the RS Spyder LMP2 from the 2000's, the 963 LMDh is a _huge_ step down.

[@Bozo_Lord]

i was so pissed when i saw the lmdh crash in the last couple laps of sebring i was on the edge of my seat seeing that we might get a podium and then BOOM

[@Giratina575]

Yep, WTR shoulve faced major penalties for that. Unjustifiable risk ruined the race for 3 others

[@Bozo_Lord]

@@Giratina575 it’s unbelievable mate, hopefully we can learn from this or at the very least instate some kind of punishment for WTR at sebring. either way, i just hope Porsche can get out of this slump

[@Giratina575]

@@Bozo_Lord the number 6 is still in the top 4 thankfully. WTR seems to have bad luck at atlanta and the porsches seemed dto have strong pace at the 8ndy test weekend

[@0AFonseca]

Funny that Porsche wins the next IMSA race after this video xD

[@wolfthiel1894]

I'm not a Porsche fan but I do have a ton of respect for their racing team and history, this is just baffling to me. In addition to fighting for outright pace, I though Porsche had always looked for ways to be consistent and easy to work with. As an example, I heard they were one of the first teams to make sure the pedal, steering wheel effort were balance to make the car easier to drive. I thought in a field where outright pace is constrained, you had to either look for innovation to compete in non-outright conditions (Pug looking for gains in dirty air and the wet), or be consistent, easy to drive, and easy on the tires. I thought Porsche would surely be great at the second one, but they've seemed hard on the rear tires, difficult to drive and inconsistent. Hopefully they can fix their car balance to make them more consistent next year.

[@AllStarSnork]

Great vid. And as a Porsche fan myself it has been an interesting year P. S. Though it was good to see at least Penske Porsche car no. 6 get a podium this weekend at Fuji.

[@deyeatdapoopoo7582]

I'm sure you wish you could take that back now lol. They fixed their tire deg issues and at worst they've had the 3rd fastest car out of 7-10 in both the WEC and IMSA.

[@bernardoberner4]

I just had hopped on board the #10 WTR in Sebring before the wreck, I was just baffled at what had just happened

[@Giratina575]

I was definitely baffled at how stupid albuquerque was. For a high ranking driver, that was the dumbest thing I've seen since francois perrodo at le mans last year

[@bernardoberner4]

@@Giratina575 honestly I think it was a racing incident and I'm a Porsche fan so I should be more upset about, but I really think it was jus an unfortunate chain of events, with the GTD Pro guys battling and all that

[@Giratina575]

@@bernardoberner4 the gods definitely had some blame there. Lack of awareness of the faster cars behind them. It was a whole mess. At least long Beach gave some payback

[@naufalayrton9249]

Probably some reason for the 963 underwhelming performance in WEC was because 963 isnt a fully porsche constructor enrty like the 919 Hybrid.. for example Ferrari’s hybrid system was derived from their F1 project and 963’s was a homologated standardized parts supplied by bosch for all GTP cars, technologically the Penske Porsche isnt a full constructor entry like Ferrari or toyota

[@hallo_welt_ag]

Nah, I'm Sure Porsche Just has growing pains. Wait till 2024 when they have the cars figured Out

[@marktucker208]

Will always be hard to beat the Acura because it has great straight line speed

[@giovannieusebi955]

I was at Long Beach this year, and it was INCREDIBLE to watch. Such a fun track. WEC to Long Beach please 🥺

[@iceblade019]

I remember being so disappointed when Porsche came out with an LMDh instead of LMH 😂

[@Dledesma493]

you deserve way more subs! great video, keep it up!

[@quetzaltorres9325]

It's normal, mostly dominant cars tend to have starts like this, but I think the 963 has shown many things, being a fan of Porsche the truth is, I expected less from the car, because the debut year is always bad; but the 963 has shown great potential, let's not go far, in 2014 the 919 HY debuted and it was slower and less reliable as the 963 is today, to later become the car that broke records in 2015, you just have to be patient , and we will see the 963 era with great pride and happiness

[@TassieLorenzo]

"mostly dominant cars tend to have starts like this" This era has BOP so it doesn't matter if Toyota, Ferrari, Peugeot, Porsche, Cadillac, Acura, BMW, Alpine or Lamborghini build the best car. No car will be allowed to dominate. Any car that is too good just gets more compensation weight on it and/or less power and fuel. 🙂

[@SPMinerva]

What interesting to me is how the back of the car almost sliding around more than other car tho.

[@FreehhZe]

I just wish the bop in wec would boost all lmdh cars a bit, but i think they want lmh cars to look like the faster cars

[@horsepower288]

Great review. Loved the Vanwall pun. Keep it up!

[@NoahRail]

this video aged like fine milk

[@wife9571]

i know that this is the least original comment ever: but the quality of this analysis is superb, and far outstrips what one would expect for a smaller and newer channel. i am mainly a “grand prix” fan rather than endurance but this was hugely educational and entertaining for me. excellent work - subbed!!

[@JanitorIsBack]

it just won imsa at road america so maybe do these videos at the end of the year

[@nicholaspont9001]

Ah yes, one more good weekend to go with long beach definitely cancels out porsches lack of results all year

[@DKMediaTV]

I personally thank you for the reverse jinx

[@satyakisil4289]

I imagine Porsche be doing whatever it can to have enough funds and focus on F1, which is probably why LMDh with customer teams were chosen. Otherwise Porsche could've made the best LMH on the grid by far if it was committed enough.

[@barney172]

I don't think it's that simple. If i remember correctly the IMSA rules at the start didn't allow LMH cars and Porsche wanted to take part in both so they were forced to build a LMDh. They changed the ruling before 2022 i think and than it was far to late. That's probably why we don't see any LMH cars currently run in IMSA or why Cadi also build a LMDh

[@svelob1944]

yes i think this is the most probable scenario. If i were Porsche, if development is too limited in lmdh to fix their problems, I would start designing an LMH from scratch, wait a couple of years with the 963 until the LMH is completed and racing that after, offering it with a discount to ex 963 customer teams

[@satyakisil4289]

@@barney172 didn't WEC also not allow LMDh to compete before 2023?

[@barney172]

@@satyakisil4289 Don't have an answer to that but might be. I only know the stuff with Imsa not allowing LMH at the start

[@DuvJones]

@@satyakisil4289 Yeah, because the LMDh spec was finalized just two years ago. It's actually a joint spec between IMSA and the ACO, with the stated intention of being the successor of the DPi class in IMSA. It's part of the reason to why you're seeing it in the World Endurance Championship. There was one other thing, the reason to why the spec is so attractive is because it is highly cost controlled.

[@Tutel._.2522]

I don't really follow what happens in endurance racing, so this wos kind of a resume to me so, thank you, but I just wanna say that dayum, the Peugeot 9X8 looks so good!

[@BrotherJP333SP]

The 963s looked great last week at Road America.

[@robinhood184xD]

may i honestly ask why the actual 🍟 this man doesn’t even have 3/4 of 1k, I mean this video seriously has 70k views

[@houseking9211]

it seems just really unlucky so far, they have the pace, but in every 24 hour race so far they start having issues, and the glen thing was bullshit tbh

[@wolfthiel1894]

At the glen they new about the rules beforehand and chose to run the car really low. They took a risk of being DQed and it didn't pan out. I remember reading that a different team (maybe BMW?) ran their car low there, but avoided the curbs to avoid rubbing down and breaking the rules.

[@Lego_Huracan_SuperTrofeo]

Wow, amazing quality video and barley even 250 subs. (At the moment) Hope to see you prosper!❤

[@soraaoixxthebluesky]

Solid entrance from Ferrari making me think fo “What are they even doing in F1?”

[@jairjanga385]

they had some problems with switching to and from the pit limiter. They need to fix there straigt line speed and electronics to go for podiums. Such a shame.

[@CanonicalBomb]

Porsche has the tools to improve, and one is BIGGER TURBOS

[@BigMeanyVids]

Whatever the case just the amt of participation in this category is so awesome. It’s becoming the best category of sports car racing period and with it’s excellent support on iRacing it makes it all the better. I mean Lamborghini is coming soon too. How cool is that? Golden age yet again.

[@Jesko.]

The Cadillac overtaking the Porsche in Sebring was tire related not the car.

[@samuelgt2811]

Who's here after Porsche Penske swept all the IMSA titles?

[@ryanyoder2694]

Porsche 1-2 at Indianapolis today!

[@spadon5678]

And they were challenging Toyota for the win at Fuji

[@hondacivic-uo8ne]

good video but i think people say double-u-ec instead of WEC otherwise keep it up

[@jazzbassrocker]

The thing about the failures at Daytona is that IIRC they were all spec parts - the gearbox and Bosch hybrid system, which were also issues that affected both BMWs and the AXR Cadillac. They've had flashes of brilliance even in the races where they didn't ultimately finish well, Sebring in particular; Le Mans could have been a real coup for them, but Ye's crash in the Jota and the various screwups of the Penske team saw that off. I don't think the FIA is ever going to truly balance the LMH and LMDh entries; there's an order of magnitude of difference in cost between the two, and the likes of Toyota and Ferrari aren't going to want their investment beaten by a cost-saving formula developed for the US.

[@vwjetta4138]

Correct about the reliability. I think the car is solid in IMSA, with the only convincing defeats at Daytona and Mosport

[@趙祖睿]

LMDh won't have any higher celling than LMH sadly(maybe Acura/Honda can compete with Ferrari and Toyota). But at least LMDh is more cost effective than LMH and more higher chance than them is selling to the customer team,which Porsche did well the most

[@vr5lover]

Nah Acura honda definitely can't even come close to Ferrari or Toyota,they can't even beat Porsche properly yet beating fastest lmh cars. They would do even worse at wec tbh

[@mr8I7]

Favourites for Le Mans now.

[@yungjaypee]

Great video man!

[@snakebitten6967]

Kind of disrespectful to the competition. Its not underwhelming, its just up against very good competition.

[@CaveManSkating]

Good story telling and good work!

[@PropDeskJunkie]

Well Campbell took the 2nd position today at IMSA Road America.