You can also kitbash 3-4 extra characters with the GSC box, bc the Truck comes with extra bodies. Becomes a 900 point box. Insanely good deal
@TheCommandPhase10 ай бұрын
Great shout!
@onyxcrusader953610 ай бұрын
only disadvantage is you have to play GSC
@rickrivers202110 ай бұрын
@@onyxcrusader9536 I love GSC. Their playstyle is super fun
@onyxcrusader953610 ай бұрын
@@rickrivers2021 fair enough, they look cool Ive just heard they are ridiculously expensive
@rickrivers202110 ай бұрын
@onyxcrusader9536 without the combat patrol, yeah they become pricey (though with the nerfs in September it did get better than it's been historically) But if you buy the combat patrol 3 times and kitbash most of your characters they're actually cheaper than average
@belldracka9 ай бұрын
The prices are nuts. I used to paint and play GW 35 years ago so yeah it’s changed a lot but £95 for 12 miniatures is crazy. Horus on his own is £85 and Angron is £100 🤯
@TheCommandPhase9 ай бұрын
To be fair most things are far more expensive compared to 35 years ago. At least the model quality has improved significantly. Although it’s still a pretty expensive hobby, as computer games now cost upwards of £70 new I supposed it’s all relative in that regards 🤷♂️ Plus there are way to make it cheaper than buying directly.
@Darthvegeta80008 ай бұрын
@@TheCommandPhase steam sales. The amount of value games give for far less is insane.
@radiomuffin5 ай бұрын
@@Darthvegeta8000not defending GWs inflated prices at all- i think they're absurd. However, you're comparing a physical product with very little competition in a slower moving industry to an industry where if a game isn't heavily marketed in it's first few months it's dead in the water with lots of platforms driving down prices legitimately or illegitimately
@SnorriTheLlama29 күн бұрын
@@radiomuffinAlso GW hasn’t offshored all their manufacturing to lower energy cost (cheap Russian import), lower wage countries like China and India. If they had intense competition that did this, they might have to follow suit. Which is why their unique IP is so integral to their business.
@buckobrian796010 ай бұрын
Getting back into it in 9th, the Deathwatch box was a great start for my Imperial Fists. Tons of bolters, and this made me fall in love with Aggressors. In 9th when IF could turn any bolter weapon into pistols, they absolutely shredded in melee.
@TheCommandPhase10 ай бұрын
That sounds like great fun and I really do like the Aggressor models too, nice a chunky! While the boxes many not always be suitable for the Chapter named on the box it definietly gives marine players a lot more options to get started.
@hagel720810 ай бұрын
tbh as someone getting into DG that was able to get the boarding patrol box, The combat patrol for Death Guard is a snice pickup seeing as with the poxwalkers youll get the 3 plague marines to have a force of 10 plague marines. At worst you have an extra 10 poxwalkers you might not use. At best you have 20 for typhus and 10 for playing objectives and using them as fodder while you pickup a 10 man cultists squad to replace them.
@TheCommandPhase10 ай бұрын
The boarding patrol was a great box and hopefully should be the base when they update the combat patrol this edition 🤞
@kevinlau91609 ай бұрын
Holy shit, the production value on this is sick. Great job, mate!
@TheCommandPhase9 ай бұрын
Thank you very much, very glad to hear you enjoyed it!
@TeeKayBee9 ай бұрын
My favorite CPs so far would have to be Black Templars & Tyranids. (played Nids a few times online TTS) I bought Black Templars on a whim. Never looked at Space Marines before, never wanted them. BUT THE TEMPLARS WERE ON SALE at my LGS and I love me a bargain. First models I've owned in 3-4 years. Since then I'm really digging the lore and plan to expand to 2K points in the future! I played my first IRL game of CP today and it was Templars vs Necrons. I got lucky a couple times and ended up almost tabling them turn 3. All he had left was his warlord.
@TheCommandPhase9 ай бұрын
The black templars box looks really good on the table and a really fun army to collect. Glad you’re enjoying yourself and having fun on the tabletop 👍
@TheDarkChaplain9 ай бұрын
The nicest thing about the Daemons Combat Patrol is that it basically packs everything you'll want to summon to the table in a large Blades of Khorne AoS game. Throughout, you rack up points for killing or being killed, and then can summon Bloodletters or Hounds etc for free. That Combat Patrol is basically a must-buy if you don't want to spend all your points on short-term unit buffs but keep yourself in the game.
@TheCommandPhase9 ай бұрын
Great point!
@GarretWaldron10 ай бұрын
The Chaos Havocs has 2 of each weapon on the sprues except for the Reaper Chain Cannon
@TheCommandPhase10 ай бұрын
Ah apologies, thanks for clarifying for the other viewers 👍
@chochopete10 ай бұрын
Great, I am starting csm army atm. And thank you
@anophelesnow395710 ай бұрын
Good stuff. Consider an analysis of of a couple of boxes. Blood Angels and old Dark Angels without upgrade sprues is a pretty good 1000 points. Both Elf boxes is near 1000 points of Ynarri.
@TheCommandPhase10 ай бұрын
For sure and with the marines, if you can sell of the upgrade sprues at a reasonable price you'll get a great start at a low cost. Then it's adding in fun options to get to 2k. Great shout!
@pr0ng99210 ай бұрын
I would just like to mention that with a bolt pistol, non helmet head, spare rocket launcher left hand from a havoc sprue and a bit of optional kit bashing you can definitely make a legionary with balefire tome
@TheCommandPhase10 ай бұрын
Oh that's a cool idea - love that! Thank you for sharing.
@banhammer72439 ай бұрын
People really expect far to much from these sets, they are not additions to what you have they are to start people off in the hobby. I mean for many years people complained that these sets didn't contain HQ options to make them a complete table top force, now they have started doing that people are still complaining!
@SnorriTheLlama29 күн бұрын
Think the ideal situation would be that this can form the backbone of a starter army, and also be repeatedly bought to allow you to efficiently grow your army. So no redundancy as you want every unit to be a staple of the army, which you can then bulk out with more niche/situational units. Blood Angels box looks like a decent base for a Space Marine player.
@DaveMcMuffin9 ай бұрын
I'm thinking of starting grey knights. Will probably get 2-3 combat patrols and a boarding patrol. The 3rd librarian will either be spare parts or a cool figure to overlook my shelfs
@TheCommandPhase9 ай бұрын
I mean that would be pretty much a perfect army right there, especially if you can find a boarding patrol too as Crowe is a great model and evens out the number of strike squads compared to terminators!
@Mr_Waffle.10 ай бұрын
Great roundup! The new combat patrols coming in so far are definitely "downsized" compared to existing ones, seemingly getting rid of the big/tough centrepiece units, so I'm picking up the ones that will be replaced soon... if anyone wants to know more about the Combat Patrol game itself, "Empire of wargames" on youtube has a lot of reviews and guides for it.
@TheCommandPhase10 ай бұрын
Thank you! I can understand why they are removing them for trying to balance the format, but as a product it becomes less enticing for someone starting a new army. At least for me as the centrepiece model was generally one of the main exciting points to pick up the box, especially for a newer player. Hopefully they’ll realise this is the case, but one thing that is nice is GW putting new combat patrol rules into white dwarf magazines. I’ll be very curious to see what they end up doing with the next armies to get their codex, and like yourself grabbing whichever ones I want while I can!
@martinholden62142 ай бұрын
2 years ago I grabbed a dark angels patrol for £65 5 intercessors, 3 inceptor, 1 Chaplin, 1 redemptor dread. Now £95 for a 1 capt, 10 intercessors, 5 hellblasters, 3 blade guard. From 10 models to 19. Experienced players tell me whats better. I can see both are good value at release vs price points at release but the price creep seems quite huge to me. £15 pounds a year for a similar points count.
@TheCommandPhase2 ай бұрын
The price increases, especially for what is meant to be a starter/entry box into an army is pretty disappointing. Technically it’s still value for money compared to individually, but in your example the old dark angels combat patrol was far better in terms of the game.
@brandonlowe50943 ай бұрын
Getting back into it since playing Space Marine 2. Got my old space marine models from 10 years ago but have no idea how to play them with all the new stuff. Maybe I’ll start drukhari the models look fun to paint
@TheCommandPhase3 ай бұрын
Drukhari are a fantastic looking army!
@isaacgraff82889 ай бұрын
I started with the Aeldari, but I might be able to get one of the 'old' Dark Angels. If I can, I will
@TheCommandPhase9 ай бұрын
It’s a great box if you can 👍
@stotgunvsface509210 ай бұрын
I just started collecting with the warforged strike team (aka salamanders) box and was looking to grab the starter set which for 140 Canadian is pretty much the combat patrol box minus one unit and tyranids. Add the old dark angels box would probably be a good start. If anyone has any recommendations, they would be helpful.
@sheeemt39910 ай бұрын
im going to find the watchers at the gate box to start my custodes army in about a month.. and maybe a tank and blade champion. i still have to look at the points
@TheCommandPhase10 ай бұрын
If you can find that box it’s an incredible start - that’s what I ended up using myself! Fingers crossed for you 🤞
@sheeemt39910 ай бұрын
@@TheCommandPhase ive seen them from $300-400 on ebay.. someone told me its $200 in the uk.. . how do you feel about that price $300-400? seems worth it
@TheCommandPhase10 ай бұрын
@sheeemt399 if all the components end up cheaper than buying them separately from an online game store then it’s still a good deal.
@Markynaz10 ай бұрын
I wish the boarding patrol boxes are still around. I bought the Black Legion one and it was great.
@TheCommandPhase9 ай бұрын
They were fantastic boxes - was a shame they stopped making them.
@Markynaz9 ай бұрын
@@TheCommandPhase I think the best of the BP boxes are Black Legion, Tau, Ork, Grey Knight, and Ultramarines.
@TheCommandPhase9 ай бұрын
Having a look back through the boxes, I definitely didn’t see many duds to be fair! I’d certainly add Custodes and Thousand Sons to your list. Especially as the Tsons actually got rubric marines in their box instead of Tzaangors 😂
@Markynaz9 ай бұрын
@@TheCommandPhase Tyranid and Khorne Daemons are not that great. I forgot that Death Guard BP box is also pretty awesome, especially compared to the terrible CP box...
@brenden147710 ай бұрын
The space marine combat patrol box is the starter set box plus the librarian, now in Australia this box is $265aud meanwhile the starter set is $150aud and the only thing you don’t get is the librarian ($66aud), you also get the tyranids which can be used for as you said a friend, some cool scenic bases or diorama…….the fact gw think inserting the librarian is worth an extra $115aud is astounding, I’m not sure what it is in other currency but as it stands both the space marines and the tyranid combat patrol boxes are the worst deals gw has made and shows how low effort and poor their business practices are, imo none of these combat patrol boxes are worth it and gw need to start putting real savings and have sales on their products.
@TheCommandPhase10 ай бұрын
100% agree. Those two boxes are very lazy and like you said definitely not worth buying with all the other ways to get hold of the same models for less.
@efrenarzate47582 ай бұрын
Was leaning towards grey knights as my first army and im now convinced, thank you
@TheCommandPhase2 ай бұрын
Hope you enjoy them!
@furseplace3 ай бұрын
Thanks for this video, really informative, I want to get into warhammer and want to start with orcs or necrons. This video was great in helping point me in a direction.
@TheCommandPhase3 ай бұрын
You’re welcome! Glad to hear the video was helpful and those are two great factions to choose from with a lot of personality and great units. Hope you have a great time collecting whichever you decide on.
@citadel7946Ай бұрын
So I don’t know Jack about the tabletop game.. There’s so much stuff like codex’s, rules for specific army’s? Then there’s metas that seem to get updated every few years that change stats of whatever army? I watched people play 10E but is combat patrol a different game and rules, can I use patrol boxes to start off and use for both game modes? It seems like these boxes have different “point(s)” values how many points should I start with ?? Maybe I’m overthinking but the start up prices for this game are too high to make a mistake, are these just collectibles or can I play with whatever patrols I chose?
@TheCommandPhaseАй бұрын
Sorry I haven’t replied sooner, I’ve been ill unfortunately but hopefully I can be of help. Each army has a set of rules, which can be found in either a Codex (for those that have been released so far) or the indexes (which are free and can be found on the Warhammer community downloads page). The indexes get replaced once each codex for every army is released through the edition. The edition usually lasts for 3 years before the cycle starts all over again. In terms of the “meta” - we get regular balance updates from games workshop to try and make the game as balanced as possible, which has put it into a pretty good state these days. These changes do affect the meta with new points costs for units and so on, but certainly nothing to worry about when starting. That being said the points are available for free in the munitorum field manual on the Warhammer community website downloads page. In terms of the combat patrol boxes - there is a format to play each of these against each other with free rules to do it. These unit rules are slightly different to that of the full game, but allow you to learn in a more balanced way before progressing into the main game. In terms of points, you can start at any amount that you agree with your opponent. As a new player I’m sure people will be happy to play smaller games with you to help get you up to speed and grow your army to the “standard” 2000 points that is typically played. To be fair the only thing worth worrying about is which army you like the models of the most and want to collect. Then it’s just enjoy yourself :) If you are worried about the prices, there is a video on the channel on how to save money when collecting.
@Bagels-s6x6 ай бұрын
I'm new and planning on starting dark angels with their new combat patrol but I'm also going to buy a squad of Primaris Aggressors so that the captain in gravis armor is usable, thoughts?
@TheCommandPhase6 ай бұрын
It’s a good starting point for a lot of the infantry you’d need for a force and the aggressors are a nice unit to have too! You can then expand how you’d like going forward with all the cool units, tanks and Dark Angels specific models too. Hope you have a great time putting it together 👍
@StefanGinoFeuz3 ай бұрын
for all the Europeans its seems most CombatPatrols are a bit cheaper in Switzerland compared to the rest of Europe (100 Euro isteand of 120 or so)
@dahksinol5610 ай бұрын
Love the video and presentation style. Though, you made a minor mistake with the CSM CP. Havocs get 2 of each gun, not 1. Still not ideal but you only need to buy 2 to get a full set :)
@TheCommandPhase10 ай бұрын
Oh that’s handy to know for the viewers, thank you for sharing 👍 Glad your enjoyed the video!
@Ramirezdothat10 ай бұрын
Two of each except the chaincannon, that's a single copy, which is really awkward considering that's probably the second thing most people want them for.
@Alun_Fratenity2 ай бұрын
I wanted to start Grey Knights and I'm SO GLAD to listen to what you said 🤩
@TheCommandPhase2 ай бұрын
Enjoy! That combat patrol is incredible value 👍 Plus make sure to find yourself an online store or local gaming store to save up to 20% more.
@chrystlerrific2 ай бұрын
same here! My first ever mini is actually a Nemesis Dreadknight (bought just last week!), stoked to get the GK Combat Patrol once the budget allows ;(
@hodelngasu3103Ай бұрын
I chose Deathwatch to start out my Salamanders army. First time doing this hobby and I’m having fun building and painting!
@Sean-tl7bk3 ай бұрын
I was watching your how to start video, and you said to get a small squad of you chosen army first, and I was wondering what squad to get for grey knights?
@TheCommandPhase3 ай бұрын
So the beauty of the grey knights is that each of their standard troop squad options come from the same box being a slightly older kit. So you can build anything from either a strike squad, interceptor squad, purgation squad or purifier squad. I’d probably suggest a strike squad because they’re the more typical troop option (less specialised) and a good point to start. But the index is currently free on the Warhammer community downloads page so you can find the grey knight index and had a look to see which sounds the most fun to you. Hope that helps 👍
@Sean-tl7bk3 ай бұрын
@@TheCommandPhase ok thanks a million
@PhillipOnTakos10 ай бұрын
I got the T'au box myself as my first ever purchase for 40K. Despite the fact the box point wise is lesser than most and the Ethereal at this point has been phased out of my army. I still think the T'au box is a great pick up. The Ghostkeel is a stupidly good unit for the points it costs. A squad of Breachers with a Fireblade can be VERY powerful. The Stealth suits are a great spotter unit that can clear out chaff and with the meta do some major damage. My only issue is more so a T'au issue in general. Where they list the Drones as models (And they're included as part of the price). I understand for newer/casual players the drone models are important for remembering them. I also know that in previous editions taking drones cost extra points but now they don't, so now they add to the price tag for no point value. I myself at this point have no need for them and unless it's a unique drone, I'm not building it or wasting space on it. Still the combat patrol box is a great pick up. I just think without the drones being forced in it, the box could fit an extra unit. It's the same issue as divergent Space Marine chapter boxes.
@TheCommandPhase10 ай бұрын
I totally get what you mean about the drones, great points about tau and the box. I do need to actually get to painting mine up with the kroot just around the corner. Thanks for the comment and hope the upcoming codex treats you well 👍
@musicaccount711610 ай бұрын
Love the video! I just bought my first 3 models to see how I like the the building and painting. The faction i was wanting to play was Salamanders but seeing how they dont have a combat patrol, how much do you think it would cost to get the proper units for a Salamander army?
@TheCommandPhase10 ай бұрын
Thank you, I’m really glad to hear you enjoyed it! Welcome to the hobby and hope you enjoy building and painting up those kits 🙂 In terms of salamanders, with 10th edition you can play them in any of the detachments as it’s more of an aesthetic choice than anything else - and a really cool choice at that! You can use pretty much any of the combat patrols and sell of any upgrade sprues, although if you’re able to grab a leviathan half off eBay at a good price, or even the starter set half if not to get the new space marine combat patrol at a cheaper price would be a good start. Or something that may be a harder find would be the Salamanders Warforged strike force from a couple years ago. Again only if it’s RRP or less for that one. Hope that is of some help.
@PhillipOnTakos10 ай бұрын
Look for any unit that has torrent/melta weapon options. Of the boxes available the Blood Angel box is probably the best starting point just for the aggressors with the flame throwers. If you can ever see a Land Raider Redeemer GET IT. It's a big point value has the best flamethrower in the army and can have a melta weapon. If you're buying units from a physical store only, you will never find Vulkan He-Stan. One of the two unique Salamander characters. He is online only, so you won't find him in your local store. Also he is a resin model so make sure you have the proper glue for him. The other Salamander character Adrax you can find at stores and is not resin. Just make sure if you want to play Salamanders to not get any other named characters because the game doesn't allow that. Infernus marines (Flamethrower marines) are not buyable on there own at the moment (The pre-orders just came out). So unless you get them in a box which at the moment is the starter boxes or standard space marine combat patrol. You'll have to wait to get them on there own. I know that's a lot. I'm sorry if it doesn't all make sense. TLDR Blood Angels is a good starting point and if you want basic flame thrower marines you'll have to wait a little bit. I really hope this helps and doesn't scare you.
@gavvy8434Ай бұрын
I wish GW figures were cheaper. I’d love to start collecting and painting but the price points are absolutely insane.
@MrNobody036910 ай бұрын
Recently got 2 lov combat patols and 2 Christmas boxes. I think I have just bought everything. The Army provides add 2 boxes of the engineer.
@TheCommandPhase10 ай бұрын
That's a really amazing start to an army - good work getting hold of those christmas boxes as they sold out fast!
@MrNobody036910 ай бұрын
@TheCommandPhase yeah I moved quick, also got into a frenzy and snagged a WE xmas box... I don't even play WE. Idk if I should pick up a WE CP or sell it to a friend at cost.
@TheCommandPhase10 ай бұрын
The WE combat patrol alongside that incredible army box would give you 30 berserkers which is more than enough for a force and would make for a good addition if you did want to play that faction later on down the line. Certainly wouldn't need any more troops. But if you don't fancy playing/painting up that faction, no harm in getting your money back for it. If you don't need the money right now, no harm in keeping it for a bit until you decide what you'd like to do.
@NightfallTH10 ай бұрын
quick answer: all the old ones, none of the new ones, because GW is greedy af
@TheCommandPhase10 ай бұрын
The newer ones are disappointing - I’ll be interested to see what they do with the new few codex releases. Else I’ll have to grab a couple of them before they go!
@CatroiOz3 ай бұрын
Except Custodes which became even more insanely good value
@NightfallTH3 ай бұрын
@@CatroiOz I'm not 100% sure about that. Yes, Sisters are not in high demand. Yes, the Custodes are in much higher demand; But the Sisters-Kit is expensive; and the Custodes kit is good value. Generally, you don't want your good-value-kits in your discount box...
@joeayotte2012 ай бұрын
@@CatroiOz and custodes can be used in AoS. Insane value if that's your thing.
@KieranM-kn3ltАй бұрын
I think so are really good. but definitely not even Steven for all. but definitely money saver for most
@Jay-ws6kj7 ай бұрын
For people wanting to start Tau just get 1 Combat Patrol Box (Ghostkeel, Stealth battlesuits, Cadre Fireblade, Breacher team) the new one sucks imo
@TheCommandPhase7 ай бұрын
It’s definitely a downgrade in terms of building an army from it, although I can see the the new one being more balanced for the combat patrol format with the changes GW have been making to the boxes.
@CatroiOz3 ай бұрын
Reminder guys that the Drukhari comvat patrol is actually 20 kabalites not 10 due to the ravager's and raider's passenger/pilot coming on the sprue with their full kit !!
@TheCommandPhase3 ай бұрын
Great point!
@donald93779 ай бұрын
The CSM box if you can afford 3 or 4 of them . They are not a bad combat patrol to begin with as you get mutipol of the same kit . Assuming you do not mind the lack of the CSM kill team do not losing out on that war gear. As the darkdiisple of you are creative enough with the extra bits they can be made in to other CSM characters from all of the war gear ( IE a chaos lord or even a chaos sorceror ) with using the base model as a conversion base . Still like the old 9th edition CSM shadow spear combat patrol box you are limited still This box is not bad to get in to CSM if you do not mind the play style the box is made for. As getting 4 of them at a good discount at a local hobby store. You have quickly made army to get a 2k list . This box even if you get 2 or 3 of them as start then you have solid begining force to add other models to .
@joejoe46018 ай бұрын
If you are playing OPR any of them. If you are playing 40k, Dark Eldar, Tau, or Necrons arent the worst.
@TheCommandPhase8 ай бұрын
I’ve not tried OPR myself, but thank you for your input 👍
@FreeLancer0nyx10 ай бұрын
First time watching and you have the "how is it made" vibe. Love it and now sub.
@TheCommandPhase10 ай бұрын
Thank you so much for the kind words - really glad you enjoyed the content and I appreciate the sub!
@zoon4498Ай бұрын
Hi! Thanks for video. I just bought a box of Adepta Sororitas and it turns out that I can't play with 3 flagellants and 4 repentias + sister s?🙄🙄 Or can I still do it? im new in 40k
@TheCommandPhaseАй бұрын
Not to worry, you can run a 3 man squad of flagellants and the 5 sister repentia squad (4 plus the superior) so all good 👍 In the Warhammer community downloads under 40K you’ll find the munitorum field manual you’ll find the squad sizes and points values for everything.
@zoon4498Ай бұрын
@@TheCommandPhase awesome!🥳🥳 u made my day!❤ take care and goodluck🍀
@Eldên2810 ай бұрын
Just buyed an Imperial Guard combat patrol. While it is sure not the best, the Astra Militarum is one of my favorite factions, that's the main reason for me to buying it.
@TheCommandPhase10 ай бұрын
Thats all that matters tbh, whether models are good now or not is inconsequential. I hope you enjoy building and painting them up!
@MrJameslupien9 ай бұрын
Whats funny is the cadia stands box comes with the same units as the combat patrol while also coming with their codex book and mission cards for less money.
@thesherbet10 ай бұрын
For the guard box; if they replaced the FOB with either a second sentinel or a heavy weapons team, it would be massively better for most players and you would easily justify buying multiple boxes even with the total points in the box dropping by 50-60. Such an easy fix its annoying lol
@TheCommandPhase10 ай бұрын
That is a good shout - it will be interesting to see what they decide to do with it come the codex release later on in 10th
@BahamutDX9 ай бұрын
I feel like the Tyranids Combat Patrol is kind of a weird one. You're getting many new units and it feels more like an introduction box than a box to get into the army. It shows very much when you're playing directly against the Space Marine box, since you're not really getting a counter to the Terminators. Usually you want heavy hitters to deal with the Terminators, but you're looking at many units that dont even have AP when shooting and melee against Terminators isn't really what you want. The characters having Terminator armor as well isn't helping either. It might be a really good box to play against other armys, but directly compared to the Space Marine box, it feels like getting the "player 2 controller" if you know what I mean.
@TheCommandPhase9 ай бұрын
I haven't really checked out the rules for the combat patrol specifically to see if there were any changes to make them better at dealing with that type of unit for internal balancing the boxes. But I totally get what you mean here. It was very much a starter set product repackaged, although the Terminators can only be in one place, so you do have some mission play with your larger amount of units I suppose. I think if they swapped the Psychophage for the Screamer Killer if we are talking just the models from Leviathan, maybe that would have helped solve the problem. The new sculpts are fantastic though!
@BahamutDX9 ай бұрын
@@TheCommandPhase Oh yeah. Don’t get me wrong, I really love what they did with the Tyranid one. The old box was way more unbalanced I think. The Hive Tyrant is missing for sure and the Psychophage is kinda weird sometimes, as it can be a little bit unreliable sometimes when you really need to do damage. But other than that, I like the Barbgaunts and I really love the Von Ryan’s. The Winged Prime is a bit weak sometimes, but that’s okay. What I would have absolutely loved is to see the Tyrannofex in there. Just finished my first one (the posable legs were a pain tbh) and really love this model. This one and the Norn Emissary were the reason for me to play the army, so of course both of them get a valuable spot in my army :D
@TheCommandPhase9 ай бұрын
I recently grabbed Deathleaper as like you, loved the Von Ryan's, but that Norn Emissary model will be coming home one day - such an incredible looking model, so not surprised it gets a spot in your army!
@Skull-Render9 ай бұрын
I've been looking to buy a space marine combat patrol to add to my pile of shame... so this video is really useful in deciding which specific chapter box i should buy foor the best value. That was until i noticed an error. In the blood angels value section its says 5x Primaris intercessors is £50? Also, in the space wolves value section 10x Primaris intercessors for £50 too. You have the correct price for intercessors in the other combat patrols at 10 for £37.50, but the way blood angels ones were overpriced does skew their value a lot. They are still comparable to the other space marine combat patrols in that you save probably around 30-35%. Still helped me decide though. I need 10 extra intercessors and i could do with filling out some other small squads that i have, and I'm seeing all the combat patrols as low as £76 from 3rd party sellers. ive decided to go for the new dark angels box as I have a 5 man hellblaster squad that could do with some reinforcement and i have 3 bladeguard veterans too that need filling out too, so i think thats the one for me. Its just a shame my army is ultras and i wont be using the upgrade sprues.
@TheCommandPhase9 ай бұрын
Thanks for pointing out the error, turns out the discounts were correct, I just forgot to move the different units to the correct places for those. So the overall total and discount is still viable to use for those two. Apologies for that. Below is the correct pricing a placement for reference. *Blood Angels* 1x Primaris Librarian £25.00 1x Impulsor £50.00 5x Primaris Intercessors £18.75 5x Primaris Incursors £18.75 3x Primaris Aggressors £35.00 2x Blood Angels Primaris Upgrade Frames £20.00 TOTAL £167.50 DISCOUNT £72.50 DISCOUNT 43% It does sounds like you've made your decision though and grabbing from a discount retailer is the best method. Plus selling off the upgrade frames, with a little bit of effort at least makes the price even cheaper for you which is a plus. Shouldn't take long to sell either.
@Skull-Render9 ай бұрын
@@TheCommandPhase ahh I see now. I was assuming that you'd input the wrong amounts but clearly the amounts were correct but the unit names were in the wrong place. Thank you for explaining that. Blood angels are still the best value of the space marine options. I've simply decided based upon my own needs for army expansion. I could go for the blood angels box instead but I'd want full 10 man squads of of incursors and intercessors and not the 5 in that box. I find boxes with 5 man squads are a little awkward because if you want to expand the squad you have no real retail options to turn a 5 man squad into a 10 man squad. Unless you buy two of the combat patrol boxes or go looking through ebay. Everyones needs are different though, just because the dark angel box would be good for me doesn't mean the other boxes are not ideal for other people.
@sitrucsimian545010 ай бұрын
The dark eldar box is so tempting to me.
@TheCommandPhase10 ай бұрын
Oh I can imagine - it’s pretty much the perfect starting box for that faction. They’re next on my list to start 😂
@gavvy8434Ай бұрын
I just got and introductory set and a bunch of paints, is a combat patrol s good second step for me?
@pokelogikx4 ай бұрын
Im thinking of getting into the game. Originally I was looking at age of sigmar and while I like those models more, my local GW just has very few AoS players. I dont mind that and even have a nighthaunt team that I built just for aesthetic purposes, but I really do want to get into 40k and actually play with people. Ive been thinking of going either Tyranids or Chaos Space marine, but overall im a bit conflicted due to the 40k models being less aesthetically cool than the AoS stuff. Any advice on starting armies with each beyond the combat patrols as starters?
@fizzyhero3502 ай бұрын
I'm so confused I priced out a combat patrol for daemons in the app and it said my points were like 1500
@TheCommandPhase2 ай бұрын
The points have changed since this video came out, with GW doing their balance updates - as of the latest munitorum field manual this box is the following: Bloodmaster - 65pts 3x Bloodcrushers - 110pts 10x Flesh Hounds - 140pts 20x Bloodletters - 240pts So a total of 555pts in the box. Hope that helps.
@fizzyhero3502 ай бұрын
@@TheCommandPhase much appreciated dude that's the first straight forward answer Ive gotten since playing. I'm going to a Warhammer store on Saturday to get a full run down. thank you!
@TheCommandPhase2 ай бұрын
@@fizzyhero350 You're more than welcome - hope you have a great time and if you have any more questions don't hesitate to reach out.
@royaltyfree96079 ай бұрын
Death Guard is legitimately criminal.
@TheCommandPhase9 ай бұрын
It certainly isn’t a very nicely thought out box - hopefully this edition we get something closer to the boarding patrol box as that was actually good.
@JAXisARK9 ай бұрын
Pretty new to the hobby and I'm having a tough time deciding which army to start collecting. I love the new Leagues of Votann, the Tau seem like a lot of fun to paint, and the Grey Knights are such a great value and look sick! Awesome video and very informative! ❤
@TheCommandPhase9 ай бұрын
All 3 of those are really great armies and honestly I’d pick the one you like the look of the most and excited about modelling and painting up. In terms of the armies themselves, the tau are getting their new codex soon which may well help for the gaming side, plus all the new amazing kroot. Votann are in a great spot and should get their second wave of models in this edition which will help but being so new it’s a great time to pick them up. In terms of grey knights, the combat patrol is great value, the only hesitation i’d have with them is the age of the models but they are a really cool force. If you still can’t decide, the other option you have is to pick up a single box/unit from each and see which you enjoy working on the most. Hope you have a great time picking and enjoy starting your first army! 👍
@JAXisARK9 ай бұрын
@@TheCommandPhase thank you so much! I'll look for some cheaper sets or figures and see which one I like more!
@The80sWolf_9 ай бұрын
If you "love", Votann, I guess thats your dudes right there
@JaxTheReaper219 ай бұрын
When I first started 40k around 3 years ago, my first box was the T'au start collecting box. I would not recommend T'au as your first army. They are hard to paint, especially if you don't have an airbrush. The models are small with really small nooks and crannies to try to get paint into. And white is a really hard color to paint right even for people who are experienced painters. GW's white paints are among the worst in the miniature painting world. I would stay away from T'au as a beginner. Grey Knights are not a walk in the park either. The overall silver color is really easy to paint, especially with an airbrush. But then you have lots, and I really mean lots, of really small parts to paint as well, just like the T'au, and even worse in some cases. I haven't painted any Votann yet but I have the combat patrol assembled and they don't look like they'll be hard to paint.
@neratsan96564 ай бұрын
When I need to paint a big miniature for the tau I pray to watever comes in mind with the big flat surfaces of the robots and hammerhead ( I dont have an airbrush so its really hard ). So I dont really recommend them even if they are a cool army and they are quite squishy in melee
@Icarus_78910 ай бұрын
there is rumors that the new sisters combat patrol is changing by only removing the rhino and everything else staying the same
@TheCommandPhase10 ай бұрын
That would be extremely disappointing if true
@tylered8510 ай бұрын
I bought 2 of the World Eaters Combat Patrols to start my WE army and honestly plan on buying a 3rd when I can afford it. Lol
@TheCommandPhase10 ай бұрын
That’s pretty awesome to be fair and a horde of Khorne Berserkers would be a scary sight! Plus all of the models in the box look fantastic too!
@MrJameslupien9 ай бұрын
I don't play. I just collect and paint so they're all worth buying to me.
@TheCommandPhase9 ай бұрын
That’s fair enough!
@EloiFL10 ай бұрын
I picked up the AdMech box a week ago. It's my firs WH set 🗿
@TheCommandPhase10 ай бұрын
That’s awesome, I really do hope you enjoy building, painting and playing that faction. It’s a really cool looking range 👍
@EloiFL10 ай бұрын
@@TheCommandPhase Thanks! Already well on its way. Will make the most of it! (Tbh I picked them 70% on their looks, 29% for the lore, and the remaining 1% was the afterthought of the stats after I had already bought them)
@TheCommandPhase10 ай бұрын
That’s the best way to choose a force tbh!
@kirilsotriov269810 ай бұрын
You can build 3 characters from the custodes box.
@TheCommandPhase10 ай бұрын
Ah apologies I forgot about the sisters of silence character
@wiseman872810 ай бұрын
Should I get the world eaters christmas box and the combat patrol?..... I am new. Or should I just pick one?
@TheCommandPhase10 ай бұрын
First of all, Welcome to the hobby! If you can find the Christmas box at retail or less it’s an incredible start to a world eaters army and a bargain! That being said the combat patrol is still a really great option if you can’t and potentially a lot more manageable for a newer player as Angron while incredible is a big model. Hope you have a great time getting into the hobby with that army, great new sculpts and pretty fun! If you have any other questions feel free to get in touch 👍
@wiseman872810 ай бұрын
@@TheCommandPhase so I should not get both? You are saying christmss box id better start?
@TheCommandPhase10 ай бұрын
If you were only getting one box, the Christmas one is the best option (If you can find one at a good price). But they certainly do pair nicely together if you did want to buy both boxes. After that you won’t be too far off a 2k list and probably will want some more eightbound. Hopefully when they get phase two of their model release there will be some more options for the army later on in the edition.
@dariostabletopminatures10 ай бұрын
8:42 Pretty Crappy Flavour GW delivers. I remeber Getting into the GAME in 8th Edtion. Every Space Marine Faction had so much Flavour. So much Value for 65 to 70€ here in Germany back than (2017/2019?). Every Box had its own cool Centerpiece and Flavour. This is VAnilla Chocolatte in evevy Pack. Kinda LAME! 38:00 Where are The RUBICS MARINES?
@TheCommandPhase10 ай бұрын
I do find the marine boxes disappointing for the lack of pushing each chapter properly. Space wolves start collecting box with thunderwolves and grey hunters was far superior and more useful for actually starting that force.
@dariostabletopminatures10 ай бұрын
@@TheCommandPhase Exactly that! I remember not knowing what to pick back in the DAys. Thunderwolves, Baal Predator Tank...each with a Great Leader and a Squad of Marines. But the Line has Increased.... It got Wider. And maybe that is why we lack some depth.
@georgeaitken27199 ай бұрын
Can wait till the new combat patrol magazine later this year😊
@TheCommandPhase9 ай бұрын
Should be great - I'm hoping to grab a few issues myself!
@ghostparty20629 ай бұрын
I just recently started collecting grey knights and for two reason. One became i had a cool idea for a unique colour scheme, and two because the combat patrol box is so damb good 😂😂 Awsome video dude 💚
@TheCommandPhase9 ай бұрын
Oh nice, what colour scheme are you going for? 100% their combat patrol is awesome value for money! Thank you for the kind words, glad you enjoyed it 🙂
@ghostparty20629 ай бұрын
@TheCommandPhase yeh absolutely. I'm going with a scheme inspired by the green knight from fantasy, so doing metallic green armour, white shoulder and cloth, bronze trim and on forrest bases. I haven't finished any yet but look cool so far 😆
@TheCommandPhase9 ай бұрын
@ghostparty2062 that sounds great! You’ll have to share some pics with me once done
@ghostparty20629 ай бұрын
@@TheCommandPhase I'd be happy to. What would be the best way to do that 🙂
@TheCommandPhase9 ай бұрын
On my channel page are all my social media links or email address - any of those work :)
@TheGuySonny9 ай бұрын
Just picked up the death guard combat patrol
@TheCommandPhase9 ай бұрын
I hope you have a great time collecting that army! They are a really cool faction 🙂
@l.lolosparks3655 ай бұрын
I want to start playing and I've been liking the Tau
@TheCommandPhase5 ай бұрын
They are a great choice and a really cool army! I'm a big fan of the Farsight model myself, although the new kroot do look great too. If you do decide on the Tau, I hope you have a great time collecting 🙂
@l.lolosparks3655 ай бұрын
@@TheCommandPhase thanks I appreciate it.. I look forward to the playtime.
@stephenb28177 ай бұрын
You earned a sub thank you so much! Just geting into the hobby.
@TheCommandPhase7 ай бұрын
Welcome to the hobby! Hope you have a fantastic time exploring Warhammer and if you have any questions don't hesitate to reach out 👍
@wolf-xf6hf10 ай бұрын
Could you imagine if two people bought combat patrols to play against one another and the first bought admech and the other bought greyknights or custodes. Jesus that would be unbalanced
@TheCommandPhase10 ай бұрын
I'd like to think the changes GW made to unit rules for combat patrol would make it a little fairer, but not sure how they'd deal with all the terminators/dreadknight! Happy to be wrong there as I've not really delved into that ruleset much.
@rjlarose527110 ай бұрын
My friend has bought 6 of the Grey Knights combat patrol..... He is a bit mad.
@rjlarose527110 ай бұрын
3 Grand Masters in armor and 3 normal dreadknights is scary.
@TheCommandPhase10 ай бұрын
God damn! I mean it is an exceptional box and I shouldn’t be surprised but my word. He certainly will have more than enough terminators for the current meta!
@rjlarose527110 ай бұрын
@@TheCommandPhase i think he didn't want to have to buy more later on as getting the knights this way was cheaper in the long run.
@TheCommandPhase10 ай бұрын
Definitely understandable!
@rifqiabdurrachman.n84442 ай бұрын
I think GW main focus is for starting players to have the armies rather than choosing faction which coming later when they start to paint
@marcarthur10010 ай бұрын
The dark elder one is defo & the one for gen steeler cult are bof and probably the custods one I'd probably say but I coud be rony tho
@TheCommandPhase10 ай бұрын
I agree, they're all really good boxes and a great start to each army!
@wolf-xf6hf10 ай бұрын
Absolutely based takes just try to turn down the music a little bit.
@TheCommandPhase10 ай бұрын
Thank you for the comment and feedback - will take that into consideration for the video I'm currently putting together 👍
@justforfun-lw9vu3 ай бұрын
Even recasters would choose to recast older boxed sets. GW, what on earth are you doing!!!😮
@blackrabbit685810 ай бұрын
I picked up 2 T'au boxes. I feel it is worth it.
@TheCommandPhase10 ай бұрын
I definitely get that, all really good models for the army. Love the ghostkeel, my second favourite suit behind the riptide!
@blackrabbit685810 ай бұрын
@@TheCommandPhase Glad I found your channel.
@jimewelsh4 ай бұрын
What is an "upgrade sprue"
@TheCommandPhase4 ай бұрын
This is an extra sprue in a set with additional options, whether it’s weapon options that weren’t in the original kit or for space marines you can take the standard unit and use these upgrade sprues to change the shoulder pads, heads and weapons for your chosen chapter’s iconography.
@jimewelsh4 ай бұрын
Oh damn, that's really cool! Thanks for helping the new guys. I've ordered my first marines and am nervous about building and painting but excited too
@TheCommandPhase4 ай бұрын
Awesome! I hope you have a great time putting them together and painting them up. Have you decided on a scheme/chapter for them?
@A-McDrae2 ай бұрын
What is an upgrade screw?
@TheCommandPhase2 ай бұрын
An upgrade sprue is an additional set of pieces that you can use on the standard models in the kit to make them look more like a chosen chapter/legion, or occasionally gives you more weapon options.
@ThroatSore10 ай бұрын
But who is using the field Orfinance teams?
@TheCommandPhase10 ай бұрын
They’ve started popping up in some tournament lists so not completely unusable
@Yoe-Mama10 ай бұрын
Hate monopose models compared to some other boxes you get so much more plastic to convert and decorate for the same price Hope GW stops with then someday❤
@TheCommandPhase10 ай бұрын
I get why they have monopose for introductory sets, but it feels bad for players that want to have more variety in their units.
@Yoe-Mama10 ай бұрын
Plus it encourages you to be more creative and helps building your army And thats the soul of 40k for me ❤️💜🩵💚
@TheCommandPhase10 ай бұрын
@Yoe-Mama love that!
@realitycheck90823 күн бұрын
Thx for video 📹
@TheCommandPhase22 күн бұрын
My pleasure 😊
@GraydonMiller-v2fАй бұрын
Why too expensive to buy figures. I wish buy some more figures and tanks. I only have one figures and tank.. that all. I really want mores but ... love model figures and tanks.
@mykyzer2310 ай бұрын
Easy the answer is None buy it all second hand or remind yourself that you already have the models somewhere😂
@TheCommandPhase10 ай бұрын
How did you know my pile of potential is that high? 😂
@thedandy67658 ай бұрын
a combat patrol is only 100 euros for me every single one
@TheCommandPhase8 ай бұрын
That’s a good price - is that from your local game store?
@thedandy67658 ай бұрын
@@TheCommandPhase yeah its an online store in the nehterlands they sell combat patrols for just 100 euros which 110 quide i believe and about 105 dollars
@ReaverLordTonus2 ай бұрын
@8:11 Well, this didn't age well.
@TheBugB10 ай бұрын
Hello
@TheCommandPhase10 ай бұрын
Hey 👋
@TheCommandPhase10 ай бұрын
Hey 👋
@stuartnewman696822 күн бұрын
None because once you get into the hobby. Your army changes. Don't fall for these adds and sponsored streams. And don't fall for the "buy this box set" it's the best value. Buy one squad. Buy the basics of what you need. And start to learn the basics of painting and playing
@nathanwhite60492 ай бұрын
Really getting tired of people reviewing games they haven't played. 🙄
@majormaccas2 ай бұрын
I'm sorry, this video looks fantastic, really nice animations and tons of details, but I just cannot make it past 3 mins of listening to you. VARY YOUR CADENCE, every single sentence ends with a down pitch, up pitch and extension of the last word. Is this how you actually talk in real life to people? It's incredibly distracting, to the point I wasn't even listening to what you were saying, just waiting for the inevitable ending on every sentence.
@TheXxmp40xx7 ай бұрын
None because GW sucks and printers exist
@farpointgamingdirect10 ай бұрын
NONE of these are worth the price. Mantic makes comparable models at around half the price. Better rules too...
@josegarcia-sy5nt10 ай бұрын
The answer is NO. 40k is unplayable and a total waste of money.
@williambooze12510 ай бұрын
My brother in Christ why are you here then
@oneechanknowsbest61510 ай бұрын
Any hobby will look like a waste of money, it all depends on personal value. $70 for a video game is already considered a "waste of money" by some people, but omst people who say 40k is overpriced and a waste of money usually are people willing to shell that out for a video game.
@AirWolf23019 ай бұрын
Thats why I am thinking of getting a 3D Printer... UNLIMITED LITTLE SOLIDER MAN!!! Also this, that, this and that I want to print.