Every Day Carry - What is Legal in the UK?

UK Folding pocket knife exemption explained per s139 Criminal Justice Act 1988
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[@davidwebb4904]

How are knife crime, machete knife crime, still happening? Don’t the criminals know these are illegal?

[@graywolf6498]

Odd thing, criminals don’t follow the law.

[@ornatus9616]

Criminals don't care about the law...

[@Strider9655]

Which means the law isn't for them, it's for us.

[@elingrome5853]

Buekele kind of showed the way...

[@ivanbuckingham2302]

😂😂😂 great comment

[@johnj4860]

Every schoolboy in the 1950s had a penknife in his pocket along with a bit of string, a broken pencil and various "stuff". The stuff varied with the season and could include marbles and conkers. Penknives with additional functions such as a point to get stones out of horses hooves were prized possessions despite the extra functions never being required.

[@colinhume365]

Boy Scouts motto, BE PREPARED, now, its be a victim.

[@zogzoogler]

at 42 that is still the basic contents of my pockets, add a random spade fuse, a piece of kids lego

[@bamberlamb6512]

Even if it was provably true that "every" schoolboy carried a penknife, they weren't carrying a £126 pound Spyderco lockback, also you are still able to carry a penknife for the daily occurrence of horses with stones stuck in their hooves as long as it doesn't lock and the blade is under 3.5 inches long.

[@jb-zr4ez]

How did we ever go from young boys, conkers and marbles to young boys, drugs and stabbings? What happened to society between then and now? I feel that my generation has really failed in their responsibilities towards the young.

[@johneaton25]

@@jb-zr4ezCoz the f-fin STUPID idiots running the show have allowed this current f-upped society we’ve allowed to breed!!…..and breed…..and breed…..and bre…..

[@terminsane]

Self defense is illegal. You might hurt your attacker.

[@KopperNeoman]

To a Socialist, it's the only violent crime.

[@peterturner8766]

That is incorrect. Self defence (spelled with a "c") is legal in the UK provided any force used is reasonable and proportionate. Even lethal force can and has been lawfully used on occasion. What is unlawful is carrying something with the intention of causing harm.

[@imnotconvinced4833]

@@peterturner8766so you can defend yourself using deadly force or a weapon and cause harm as long as you didn’t intend to defend yourself with deadly force or the weapon, causing harm, if necessary. Makes perfect sense.

[@anjou6497]

​@@peterturner8766 Exactly. Well said.

[@anjou6497]

​@@imnotconvinced4833 Honestly grow up. It's pretty bleeding obvious.

[@DeborahDonnellan]

I know this is about Knives, but I do recall when hand guns were banned as a result of the terrible tragedy in Dunblane Scotland Many former legal hand gun owners said” when hand guns are outlawed , only the outlaws will have hand guns”

[@captainchaos3053]

@DeborahDonnellan I know what I'm going to say will sound terrible but hand guns were banned as a result of Mr Bill Clinton. Tony Blair was so easily led and Clinton was pushing gun control hopping that 8f he could do it here then the states would see how much better it is and he could do it there. However as you can see violent crime figures are in no way lower.

[@fortnitefred1351]

Read Dunblane never forget. 👀

[@LibtardTears]

I never gave up my hand guns. Only the mugs done it.

[@anonnona8099]

@@fortnitefred1351 > Read Dunblane never forget. Never forget that if the police had done their job properly, and properly enforced the existing firearms legislation at the time, Thomas Hamilton would never have been allowed to own those guns in the first place.

[@AddyBittler-]

@@fortnitefred1351some say it was a hoax no one died no one got hurt (so I’ve heard) like the abedid thing in Manchester they say he blew himself up at the arena!!! The someone got a FOI request for the police Comms and apparently abedid was apprehended near the Renault garage in Salford in a silver Audi that he was know to drive.. but it was covered up as per.. so ask yourself how does a suicide bomber blow himself up then drives off in an Audi 😆. Oh and his dad was a asset of the security service on the attempted overthrow of gaddafi in the 90s then end up living in rusholme in Manchester so it’s no stretch for his son to get into that game.. 👍 don’t shoot the messenger

[@donaldcarr8766]

It is important to remember that any item you claim to have for defensive reasons can then be interpreted as an offensive weapon in UK law.

[@garygilbert1127]

nothing is ever for defense in the UK, if you say that you are the offender.

[@bikergamersoldierspy533]

That's my point too. By definition your defensive object is not an offensive weapon. Could it be, sure. But it's not why you have it. You might want to ram some pedestrians with your car, if you're not right in the head, and yet I don't see everyone's driving licences revoked and cars destroyed. Criminals, by definition, don't care about the law. You, as a law-abiding citizen, have no right to defend yourself, or else you become a criminal yourself. It's absurd.

[@StarlasAiko]

I always carry a book with me, in case I have to defend myself against boring people.

[@gibsonms]

That’s exactly it. Any item that you carry for protection that has an different use simply *has* to be stated to be being carried for that other use. I carry a 6D Maglite torch with me.

[@MrRedeyedJedi]

Which is absurd.

[@Martin-ox6ox]

A screwdriver is more dangerous than a 3 inch lock knife.

[@blow0me]

Stupid rules and lawmakers, and police, are even more dangerous than any knife.

[@terminsane]

That's why the UK police brag about confiscating screwdrivers, metal files, and other general tools they find in people's yards during "weapon sweeps"

[@alexthorpe2522]

Worked in a hospital years ago. Guy came in with horrific injuries to his thighs, arms, abdomen. Found later he'd been attacked with a screwdriver that had been sharpened to a very fine point.

[@blow0me]

@@alexthorpe2522 car thieves in Northern Ireland killed a car owner quite a few years back with a screwdriver. I don't think true justice was ever served either. That's how the UK law works, They target the innocent, and ignore the killers.

[@BRM101]

True

[@AmeobaKing]

Buying a £150 knife to open parcels...I'm in the wrong job.

[@Ramsay77]

For that price it has to be made from titanium.

[@somescottishguy1314]

I have a £3 keyring knife from wish for work (mailroom stuff). Works fine.

[@tescoprimark1299]

It’s kind of a flex you know.

[@Clembo]

It's more like £50

[@Ricksta-op3qj]

I saw it as a massive humble brag

[@Morio412]

I have had a police officer hum and arr about arresting me for having a fish filleting knife in my tackle box when sea fishing a couple of years ago. I used it for cutting up my bait and also cleaning and prepping fresh caught fish to put in the cooler to take home. I can tell you my back end tightened when having that conversation.

[@Treblaine]

That "good reason" defence of section 139 of the Criminal Justice Act (1988) has to do a LOT of work. Even small nail scissors are a liability as it doesn't say "knife" but any "article that has a blade or is sharply pointed".

[@garygilbert1127]

hasnt happened to me but I have knives when fishing and camping, I also use a billhook to clear brambles from walkways and mtb trails in the forest because the council stopped doing it when the tories got in, it's unfair we risk punishment for the acts of a few idiots in shopping centres, druggies etc.

[@alanmumford8806]

@@garygilbert1127 As a contributory member of a fishing club in the previous millenium, I would regularly carry a billhook or an Irish slasher, for clearing bankside vegetation. Apparently, if I did the same now, I could potentially be imprisoned. I no longer live the the UK, a life-choice which seems to have been wise.

[@Jones-xx2gc]

What a joke.

[@snowywelsh]

Quite right too, and you should have been imprisoned for A 1000 YEAAAAARRRRRRRRSSSSSSS. . .

[@andyxox4168]

WTF am I supposed to sharpen my quill with?

[@kierhudson1328]

A pebble.

[@ziggarillo]

Your " pen knife" They're still legal.

[@thomasmooney5653]

Razor sharp w..

[@operationsauce7511]

whoa whoa whoa, didn't you know quills were made illegal in public areas after king george 3rd cut his cuticle whilst on horse back!

[@andyxox4168]

@@ziggarillo .. you haven’t seen the size of my quill 😂😂😂

[@damienalexander3450]

I carried a locking folder for the 10 years i lived in London. Never had an issue. I cut more cake and sausage rolls with it than anything else.

[@alanmumford8806]

Just like most people would. It's not the 'thing', it's the person wielding the thing that matters. But the idiot lawmakers deliberately don't want to hear that. Just like the spurious gun control arguments in the US.

[@mojo-zombie]

I used to carry one for cutting up Apples (posh) but changed to a 3" folder when it became an instant criminal record!

[@christopherquinn5899]

…and you cut things with relative safety because it could lock.

[@snowywelsh]

I'll have to remember that. . . "Hmmmm. . .always carry a sausage roll. . ."

[@snowywelsh]

Conversely, I always carry a cake for defensive purposes. . .but not a sausage roll. That's a step too far!

[@349UrbanVlogs]

Don't bring a pocket knife to an umbrella fight

[@binkwillans5138]

And vice versa, obviously.

[@LuxFerre4242]

Isn't it lovely that one city being a crime-ridden hole means the rest of the UK gets pummelled with these stupid laws.

[@victororlov1236]

Im sure everything will improve under Starmer. 🤣

[@andyxox4168]

@@LuxFerre4242 ‘One’ city? … the list is long!

[@cliveo3]

@@victororlov1236 Yes ,he will give everybody a free magic carpet ,so we can fly away from danger .

[@KX36]

I don't know what city you mean, but I assume London. I'm not anywhere near London but I see about equivalent number of major traumas due to stabbing as to car crashes in my A&E. About 500 of each per year.

[@victororlov1236]

@@cliveo3 Or you can pay attention to your environment and maintain a casual level of situational awareness ... but that does requires some rational thought and intellect. ... ummmm I see the problem now.

[@andybowie8590]

£146 for a knife to open parcels? Wow you're better paid than me! I got a Stanley knife for £3.

[@sprinkz6187]

My thoughts exactly 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@awatt]

Opening "parcels"

[@KX36]

I use my teeth.

[@soylentgreen326]

🤔 to a barrister that’s loose change 🎉

[@awatt]

@@soylentgreen326 Are you people? Asking for a friend

[@andyxox4168]

I don’t carry a knife but I do carry a wicked spoon and a pair of chopsticks …

[@victororlov1236]

Do you have a small rubber ball on the end of your chopsticks?

[@vatsmith8759]

It would be an offence to carry the chopsticks for self-defence but you could sell tickets if it ever came to court.

[@thedirectorschair1054]

@@vatsmith8759 He carries them on the offchance of coming across chinese food.

[@knightowl3577]

I carry a viscously sharp piece of fruit at all times.

[@victororlov1236]

@@knightowl3577 YA, that's great! Until you encounter a 16 ton weight... see what your banana does then.

[@DawleyDude]

I've worked in the security industry for many years. In those years, I've dealt with two knife incidents, the first was a stanley knife, the guy was threatening me and my colleague with it as he was trying to steal and we caught him, thankfully we managed to take it from him and hold him until police came, fast forward to court and despite the charges against him, he did no jail time and was released, his fine was peanuts.. the 2nd was 2 guys who were removed from premises because they were harrasing women who were on a birthday night out, they left without incident but came back "tooled up" again we handled the situation quite well, once we detained the one and got his kitchen knife the other chap ran away, police caught him later, fadt forward again and the case is dropped by police, all they got was drunk and disorderly to which they paid a small fine and were free to go. So if you wonder why knife crime is so high please not its because the law is lying to us, same as flytipping they say 10k fine, but in reality, it never is! The Uk justice system is nothing to fear. For whatever reason the justice system is easily beaten every time by solicitors who seem to be able to get around things.

[@binkwillans5138]

So, there you go. Lesson 101 in the security industry. Don't call the police, and don''t let the guys go.

[@doug1066]

Short answer: Nothing is legal in the UK. Your right to be prepared for an emergency has been taken from you in the name of public safety; yet the public is far less safe than before.

[@TheGreatest1974]

Remember, even if a cop asks you ‘do you agree this knife could be used as an offensive weapon’ say ‘no.’ If he asks you what reason you are carrying it, say ‘because I’m legally entitled to.’

[@binkwillans5138]

When he walks away, mutter "Yaah fuzz" in an insulting tone.

[@baldbeardyandbiking6686]

@@binkwillans5138 If you're carrying a knife in public and it is legal (as per Sect 139) then it is up to the police to prove you are committing a crime. If you agree a knife could be used as a weapon then you are one step closer to the officer arresting you. If asked, a knife is a tool, not a weapon.

[@storcy]

Only a lawyer would have a £150 knife for opening parcels. The rest of us using our keys or an open pair of scissors 😂

[@garygilbert1127]

are we still allowed scissors?

[@NitroNuggetTV]

@@garygilbert1127As long as you have paid your scissor tax.

[@RandomShart]

I use a £30 swiss army knife, it's a great little tool to have in your pocket.

[@steveo4991]

Meanwhile, people on the dole are walking around with £1000 phones and £250 ear buds. At least the knife is useful and nowhere near as disposable. £150 is hardly a lot for an incredibly useful tool which will last decades with proper care.

[@50CALIBREROUND]

Im a career criminal, and it breaks my heart that i have to walk the streets of London without a tool to protect myself🤥, just like a law-abiding citizen does !!! Makes me sick !!!!!

[@ivanbuckingham2302]

Laws take away your freedom but if you break the law you go to jail, and loose your freedom, you loose freedom either way. Most of us don't need laws to control our behaviour and those that do don't care about laws.

[@AI-Records24]

Well said. Something about most brits though, they love to be governed. Love to be told what to do, how to do it, what’ll happen if they don’t do it as they’ve been told, and most importantly, what they cannot do, and again what’ll happen if they do do those things. It’s beyond me why people like rules and laws rather than freedom to choose, and it’s infuriating😡

[@rosiefay7283]

@@AI-Records24 Why do you prefer the freedom to go out in public and stab people? I prefer the freedom to go out in public and not risk getting stabbed.

[@DrGreenGiant]

​@@AI-Records24I'd say it's because we believe that the law is doing net good. In this case a limitation of freedom in exchange for safety. For example, we don't have the freedom to carry guns and as a benefit I've never once worried that someone is going to point a gun at me or a stray bullet might hit me in the crossfire. Different cultures have different reasonable views on things. If I was to go to America, my views would no longer be reasonable in that culture.

[@TheChees1996]

In fact you have more freedom in jail than outside, cause you don't have to pay taxes, rent and other stuff. You even get free education. But most prisoners are too lazy to see it.

[@schrodingerscat1863]

@@AI-Records24 errrr no, most Brits are intensely annoyed by this type of thing.

[@User-3O3]

The law-abiding citizen is persecuted for carrying something as a means to defend themselves while the police and the criminals go around carrying whatever they like. Make it make sense.

[@chrisfs150]

Police and criminals you say? Can anyone tell the difference i say..... 😊

[@gavinr4214]

It makes perfect sense if you accept certain truths about the world we live in. Though I suspect you'd see those truths as looney.

[@KopperNeoman]

Constitutionally speaking, those Subjects who are Protestants are allowed to carry arms appropriate to their self-defence. The ones who should be getting pilloried for carrying are the very ones who would get the luvvies crying racismus.

[@KX36]

@@chrisfs150 easy. the criminals are the ones who do things, the police are the ones who don't.

[@CristiNeagu]

1. Yes, only law abiding citizens suffer from this, since they're the only ones that are likely to carry a locking blade knife. Criminals all carry massive kitchen knives and machetes, so they don't care about small knives. 2. That being said, don't carry a knife with you for self defence unless you are trained to use it as such. If you're not, chances are you will get hurt. It's a bad idea. Don't do it.

[@greamespens1460]

I know that you have touched on this subject before but I thank you for refreshing it for us.

[@shaunrogers2256]

If I'm in my work clothes I'll more than likely have a knife in a pocket. Never crossed my mind to use it on another person.

[@sybentley6675]

same.

[@binkwillans5138]

Remind me not to insult you in your work clothes.

[@JamesBakerAdventurer]

same. As a gardener and landscaper a pocket knife is the least dangerous tool i carry.

[@DarkRainUK]

​@@JamesBakerAdventurer I specialise in tradional Japanese horticulture so i use alot of traditional Japanese tools in my work . My hori hori that I use alot is bigger than most rambo knifes but at the end of the day they're tools to do ours job not weapons

[@John-ou4rm]

As a kid I worked in a service station, under the counter was a hollow metal bar, i was told that the police had told them that having a handgrip on it would fall into an offensive weapon, a simple tool etc picked up to deter a criminal would be less problematic. Hence they had taken some grip tape off it.

[@davidmwood560]

I keep a multi-use Swiss Army knife in its leather case, in the toolkit section of my car. It is adapted by the manufacturer for one-handed use. (My left hand/arm is compromised due to injury). I also have an automatic knife with a glass-breaker at one end of the handle; this lives in the driver's door pocket and is in a leather case. The latter has a 5" blade and I had to prove necessity in order to have it in my car. The knife is of historic interest yet, I encounter no problem having, on occasion, a bootful of historic weapons, including firearms! (I am a collector in a small way) I think you'd have loved the reaction from a lone copper when he saw a 4·5 foot long, ancient Executioner's sword on the rear seat...... Priceless!

[@FaanBoerseun]

Just wait until the eye of sauron turns to you

[@joshuastebbing7408]

“Under no pretext should arms and ammunition be surrendered; any attempt to disarm the workers must be frustrated, by force if necessary” -karl marx

[@Andykerrfield]

I carry and use my Leatherman multi tool every day.. even used it at my mates wedding to fix one of the speakers, he didn't want me wearing it because it didn't go with the kilt🤷‍♂️

[@Clembo]

Those knife elements lock, technically against the law.

[@baldbeardyandbiking6686]

The irony is you could have had a Sgian-dubh dagger in your sock! One of the 3 exceptions in Sect 139 of the CJA 1988 is as part of a national costume. If you're wearing a kilt as part of traditional Scottish dress then you have an exception to the law.

[@baldbeardyandbiking6686]

@@Clembo Not all multitools have locking blades. I carry a Leatherman Kick. Totally street legal (confirmed by showing it to a number of police officers)

[@simongrushka983]

in other words: don't you even think about defending yourself, as anything brought for defense will be quallified as 'offensive weapon'

[@davidwebb4904]

Exactly. Our society has been turned into a nation of victims. And youths still carry machetes which they are not at all afraid to use. Then they disappear in Tenerife. ……

[@simongrushka983]

@@davidwebb4904 is the comment about that missing guy necessary thou?

[@davidwebb4904]

@@simongrushka983 He's a wrong un. As is his entire family. He should be in high security for a decade for his crime of attempted murder, but no. He's off partying in Spain

[@JohnLamjohnlsl]

The law is designed in a way that only bad guys can have weapon, good guys can easily became a victim, Because the bad guys don't have consequences if they attack someone Waiting for the police? You can wait in your coffin for justice

[@outofthetrash5925]

​@@simongrushka983Not too familiar with the story but if he previously used a Machete on the streets of the UK, then yes.

[@NahBroUK]

Not allowing locking knives is a public safety risk. An absolute joke

[@ziggarillo]

Just don't carry a knife, if you dont like non locking blades. If you have a legitimate reason to need a knife with a locking blade, you can legally carry one.

[@gavinr4214]

Diversity and it's many gifts.

[@mikeharris2650]

I accidentally cut my finger to the bone once using a non locking blade. Still dont like using them.

[@NahBroUK]

@@ziggarilloit’s just a tool. What’s your problem with them?

[@hexrag5901]

making a safety feature illegal is indeed moronic

[@eddiecatflap3838]

The govt want you defenceless and reliant on the police. Criminals will not wait for the police to turn up to protect/defend you. The govt have made you an easy target and easy victim.

[@FNG0000]

Got 3 blokes coming over fence to garden at 8p.m winter. Do you think police ever arrived?

[@-YELDAH]

Why would they want that? Seems rather tinfoil hat

[@233kosta]

"When seconds matter, the police are minutes away." ... if they turn up at all. Some fuching GENIUS had the bright idea to dedicate quite a lot of police resource to watching tw@tter for people insulting each other.

[@233kosta]

​@@FNG0000Call 999 and tell them to send an ambulance for them. Watch armed responce roll in ASAFP

[@lewispowell1681]

Yet amazingly your more than twice as likely to be the victim of knife crime in the big country where your allowed to walk around with a gun than you are in the UK. Almost as if more weapons doesnt mean your less likely to be the victim of one, but thats an absurd notion

[@billienomates1606]

Hypothetically speaking 'LEGAL' is only an issue if the person carrying is identified/arrested. So many ferals wear the same black track suits and fanny packs with hoodies and face coverings. The law would only seem to be there to be effective and to restrict the law abiding citizen from being able to defend themselves inside/outside their abode.

[@Nym146]

"If you take a knife out for self defense then you are taking it out with the intent of causing harm." That is the most screwed up logic.

[@binkwillans5138]

No, it's not. Using a knife for self defence is a clear intention to cause harm.

[@Nym146]

@@binkwillans5138 nope, any attempt at self defense is an attempt to prevent yourself from being harmed. I don't care what legalese people want to use to justify removing peoples right to defend themselves.

[@user-qz3wv7tq6v]

Thirty odd years ago, my father was coming home and got mixed up with a crowd of football fans (mid-week match) who were herded to one side after some trouble. They were all searched and my father was found to be carrying an 'open (cutthroat) razor'. He told the officer he was a barber, and proved it by partially shaving him in the back of a police van. No charges were bought. He was taking it home to give it its weekly oilstone sharpening.

[@CazSmith]

So the copper let the man he'd just arrested with an offensive weapon have the blade back and offered up his own throat to it? wow

[@user-qz3wv7tq6v]

@@CazSmith Absolutely... but different times.

[@Daimo83]

Imagine a society where trust is so high a cop could trust a potential criminal not to be a murderer 😂

[@CazSmith]

@@Daimo83 I can just imagine a copper accompanying an arrested suspect while letting him hold a cut throat razor to his neck while driving around in the back of a bumpy van.

[@user-qz3wv7tq6v]

@@CazSmith OK Mr Richard Head... Who said ANYTHING about the van moving? Or do you lie EVERY time you open your mouth? Standard procedure for todays trolls. Society was different then, and it's sh1ts like you who've changed it.

[@jogasinghkhalsa5526]

Sikh here - the religious reason is for us. We're the only faith in the world religiously and legally allowed(in majority of countries) to carry swords/blades in public

[@mungoh42]

What about a Scottish Skean Dhu?

[@jogasinghkhalsa5526]

@mungoh42 yes that's ceremonial not faith related. In the UK there are only three types of soldiers legally allowed to carry bladed weapons in public. The King's soldiers (ceremonial), the Scottish soldiers (ceremonial) and the Sikh soldiers (Religious and practical means)

[@Jaccayumitty]

​@@mungoh42allowed if worn as part of a national costume. I don't know if a kilt alone counts as national costume, or if you need the full head to toe getup.

[@captainchaos3053]

What is the religious reason? I only ask to educate myself.

[@jack_attack]

@@Jaccayumitty kilt alone should suffice provided there’s no underwear present.

[@DeusNyx]

Does the law really believe criminals abide by the law? And does the law also believe law abiding citizens spontaneously commit crimes with inanimate objects?

[@neshiah4747]

There was an event yesterday in the town where I live. A man armed with a knife chased a group of 13 yr old kids. The law doesn’t work since those who will break it will always break it because they can, it’s easy to do so.

[@PINACI]

A friction folding knife doesn't have a locking mechanism, yet the blade can locked in place by your hand holding it. These are far safer than spring folding knives which have the potential to close over your fingers.

[@simonh6371]

Also the Spyderco UKPK, the first one he shows, is designed in such a way that you can prevent it closing by holding your finger on the choil (the blunt metal part before the actual cutting edge). I have a slightly smaller one than the one he shows here, the Spyderco Urban.

[@Treblaine]

This is tricky as nowhere in the legislation does it mention anything about locking mechanisms. A trial court simply ruled that the definition of a folding knife is that it must be able to fold at any time. I know, this isn't how the adjective is used anywhere else, a folding chair is still a folding chair even if it can be locked in one position or another. They specifically ruled that the danger of a knife blade closing on the hand is what made it legal. They were all ever so impressed with themselves, they acted like they had carefully avoided a loophole of people carrying folding knives with the blade permanently welded into the open position... Yet that is not what anyone was found to have.

[@nickgood8166]

Tosh.

[@simonh6371]

@@nickgood8166 I think the OP should have qualified his comment, you are actually right that 99% of friction folders do not lock into place by the hand. However there are some based on ancient medieval designs, such as the Svord Peasant Mini, which have an elongated tang, which means it will not close when in use. Some Higinokami knives have a similar tang.

[@keithalderson100]

There are also venue-specific, like football stadiums or knives in hand luggage on an plane, where security will confiscate the item, knife, scissors, metal nail file, often with no route to getting the item back.

[@JelMain]

Bemusingly, my daughter had left some scissors in my backpack after borrowing it to instruct a friend in bookbinding. Not knowing it was there, I took the pack to the Passport Office, where it was discovered and held on one side until I'd finished my business, at which point it was returned on leaving.

[@SpikeXtreme]

The Spyderco knife you show on a website is a 'Para3' which is a locking knife. The one you hold is the Spyderco 'Urban' which is a slip joint -non locking.

[@vodkaman1970]

For safety when using that Spyderco knife make sure your fingers follow the grip shape of the knife with your forefinger over the hinge portion. Rather than having a locking mechanism this puts your finger as a blocker to it folding back on your fingers. As with all folding knives, don't try to use if too forcefully since the blade is on a pivot.

[@2tone209]

I'VE CARRIED A PEN KNIFE SINCE I WAS 5 AND I. NEARLY 60 I'VE GOT A SWISS ARMY KNIFE THAT GOES EVERY WHERE WITH ME VERY USEFUL TOOL

[@Tsnafu]

See if you can use it to unstick your caps lock key

[@datcrazytwitch3677]

@@Tsnafu lol

[@Liberty_Freedom_Brotherhood]

No need to shout

[@2tone209]

@@Liberty_Freedom_Brotherhood IM A BIT DEAF

[@northeastcorals]

They really do like to keep increasing the reasons for you needing weapons of self defense UP, while also ramping up the laws against them.

[@KopperNeoman]

You can't have a revolution without stripping the loyalists of weapons.

[@benchapple1583]

Strangely, you can't legislate crime away. You can however have highly visible police at every hour of the day and that does the trick. Where I live, Serbia, I can't go to the corner shop for a bottle of milk without seeing a policeman and the crime rate is statistically zero. I haven't seen any, anywhere in 9 years. Recently I walked home from the pub with a full bore splitting axe over my shoulder. No one batted an eye- and yes the police saw me. I think that the UK police would have kittens if they saw that.

[@binkwillans5138]

At least you weren't splitting any bores.

[@paul7t5]

You bought a 140 quid knife for opening parcels? Blimey!

[@DontPanicDear]

….and to feature in this series of legal carry videos I’m sure. Spyderco are also lovely things, so he might have just bought it to have it.

[@WaxerUK]

I have had the Dewalt knife in my pocket for as long as I can remember. I’m a tradesman, I cut cables, I run it around the edge of cable sheaths such as wf100, cat5e, cat6 etc… it’s such a handy tool, it’s never crossed my mind to do anything other than trim back cables! Sometimes I finish work and go to Tesco and it’s in my pocket. I never even thought about it! I only commented as I saw it in the thumbnail! Great video.

[@OCD_Sparkies]

Same here, I have a small gerber brand utility knife in my wallet all the time alongside a tiny pair of pliers. If anyone ever questioned it I’d just bin the blade without hesitation. But I’ve never been asked. Unless I whipped it out in a fight I doubt I will, and I have no intention ever of doing that!

[@AngelaH2222]

Maybe I'm suspicious minded...but if someone breaks into the BBB's home he's going to claim he was "opening parcels" at the time

[@johnnyhock]

I have a Swiss army style utility knife which I bought from a National Trust site when my wife & I were National Trust members around 10 years ago. It is around 5-6 inches when folded up and I keep it in my car console. The penknife blade is around 31/2 inches and easily foldable. The main reason I leave it in the car is for the multitude of tools it has built into it, including various screwdrivers, scissors, pliers, wire cutters, spanner, saw etc which may be useful when camping or during a breakdown.

[@gazftn201]

so john wick defo in trouble for taking few out with a pencil.....

[@Codysdab]

A man near where I live was killed by a single punch to the head just the other day. I'm now expecting laws to be created to ban the carrying of hands in public. Everyone must at all time keep their hands securely encased in boxing gloves whilst out in public, for safety of course. I hate the idea that the object is the problem. It's always the person.

[@bendavies8881]

Back in the 90s, when I was in my teens, I went on holiday to France. I bought my three best friends an Opinel pen folding knife, with a rotating locking collar, and one for myself of course. One of my friends had a dad who was a policeman, and he explained to me why it was illegal in the UK, but he let us roll with it, since we were just using it for camping.

[@stevec5922]

I believe Opinel now do non locking versions of some of their knives.

[@happykharl]

its so bizarre that you aren't allowed to defend yourself and if you do you have to justify your own defence

[@sybentley6675]

I am 51. My dad carried a knife, so I carry a knife.

[@binkwillans5138]

Same with my dad. Maybe they were both in the same gang?

[@lennonpolo]

So, If your dad was bisexual, would you be bisexual?

[@quagmirewasere]

Why are the police allowed to carry multitools ie leatherman its a locking blade and had mine confiscated i was going camping

[@victororlov1236]

because acab

[@ziggarillo]

You can carry a locking blade if you have a good reason, a police officer could give a good reason to carry a multi-tool with a locking blade.

[@simongrushka983]

@@ziggarillo a PC would give a 'good reason' to another PC when questioned. don't forget that

[@ornatus9616]

@@ziggarillo I mean, self-protection is a great reason.

[@dav6131]

You shouldn't have had yours confiscated if you were going camping!!! Definitely would be appealing that one.

[@khaaaaaaaaaannn]

Living in Poland is a lot more relaxed. I carry around a 4 inch locking blade with gravity assisted opening, without a care in the world. The length, lock, and opening mechanism would all be illegal back in the UK 😂

[@VulcanDriver1]

I was a member of a pirate reenactment group and once a year we marched through the town to the port to celebrate our pirate past. We carried a cutlass and a flintlock pistol. The police told the group as long as the cutlass remained sheathed its fine and the pistols were non firing.

[@terminsane]

Adults have to ask permission first because they've been infantalized and institutionized.

[@user-tn1vc1xz5d]

I love Opinels....but i can't leave home with it. You can buy them commonly on the continent but France has also tightened its laws recently.

[@matthorrocks6517]

My mom loves them too it actually has lasted forever. Good steel

[@awatt]

The no 6 and 8 work well for me. I'm carrying them when I go hiking. Am willing to test whether they are legal for that purpose in court.

[@catman2629]

@@awatt they don’t automatically lock , you have to turn the end round to get them to lock . Super sharp nice pocket knives great for gardening , opening parcels etc

[@binkwillans5138]

I can't leave home without my gatling gun. I never use it, of course.

[@graywolf6498]

My EDC is a G19 with a red dot, extra mag, HFB knife, flashlight, and TQ

[@BlackBeltBarrister]

😂

[@victororlov1236]

Might have a difficult time explaining why you carry that in the UK. AND... what is like to live in such fear of the world that you need to carry a pistol every day to feel secure? I'm ex military ... Ive never found the need for a firearm outside of service... partly because the world is not really that dangerous and partly because I'm not an insecure pussy afraid of the world. Cheers.

[@simongrushka983]

must be hell to live in the constant fear, isn't it?

[@graywolf6498]

@@victororlov1236 former 68W. And I’m not afraid of anything. Self defense is a human right. The world is a dangerous place. But keep up with the name calling. Your comments reek of jealousy.

[@benh715]

@@UKRO404some sort of firearm with bells and whistles

[@Derecq]

My every day carry knife is Swiss Army Knife which meets the exemptions you mentioned. I have declared it going into the Scottish Parliament building it was taken off my and returned when I left. No problem with Eurostar check in although once it was removed and checked the blade was not locking and replaced. I've carried it for so long the scales are worn smooth and the logo worn away.

[@StarlasAiko]

I always carry a bundle of handtools for leatherwork, sewing and whittling with me. Some blades are only about a quarter of an inch long, some are well longer than 3 inches. And they all either lock or are rigid/don't fold at all. The way they are bundled, I couldn't use them for defense unless I happen to have the bundle unrolled and am using the tools already when a situation arrises. I also always have a set of travel cuttlery with me, which includes spoon, fork, steak knife (non-folding and longer than 3 inch) and chopsticks. The only daily carry item that is sufficiently reachable to be used in a sudden unexpected emergency situation are my gymnastic dumbells. Not that I would have to quickly pull them out in an emergency while walking, since I'd already be holding them. When I am not walking, they are in my jacket pockets. That is their purpose, to add weight to your arms to increase muscle and energy exertion while walking, increase the exercise value of walking. Goes well with the weighted ankle and wrist cuffs. They are small enough to fit in my fist without any risk of object touching attacker, but they harden my grip, thereby reducing the risk of hurting myself when punching something. That is why self-defense classes teach you to hold a lighter or your key ring in your fist. At the end of the day, when anybody attacks me, the attacker will be able to sue the government for breach of guaranty that their vicitm will be defenseless.

[@marksolum1794]

As member of The Church of the Holy Singularity that requires you to always be prepared my locking folding knife and fixed blade knife are religious knives and should always be carried.

[@graywolf6498]

Amen

[@aesopstortoise]

Is that 'Holy' or 'Holey'?

[@KopperNeoman]

@@aesopstortoise Take cover, Carmine. I don't want you getting religious out there.

[@Nuts-Bolts]

Richard Vobes who has been featured on BBB has just been banned from YT for 3 whole months due to one of is guests mentioned ‘something about something’ which of cause I had better not say. Apparently there is no appeal for this ban. YT censorship is still marching forwards. So do be careful BBB as to your guests.

[@anonnona8099]

@Nuts-Bolts > Richard Vobes who has been featured on BBB has > just been banned from YT for 3 whole months That's a shame. In that it should have been 3 whole years. Or 30.

[@UK-Blue]

​@@anonnona8099 He's jumped on the ... Every trail is a chemtrail.... band wagon. So I agree 😂

[@outofthetrash5925]

​@@anonnona8099Yeah shut down any topic of discussion that you don't like. Shame We can't vote for the Monarchy. I have no doubt you'd get straight in. Clearly you possess wisdom beyond that anybody else in the world can hope to wield.

[@stevenhodgson834]

Shame, it's entertaining watching how Vobes plays the game.

[@PrincipalAudio]

@anonnona8099 I wouldn't agree with banning someone just because they jumped on a belief bandwagon. All views should be heard, criticised, discussed, debated and figured out. To rally behind bans of certain people because you disagree with their point of view is authoritarian. That authoritarianism will eventually come back to bite you, because it won't be controlled by you. *Edited to put correct handle in.

[@Gildermesh]

Credit cards and keys are great for self defence and you can still carry these. A twelve inch steel ruler can cause attackers some serious wounds enough to put off the most dedicated attacker. You just need to think outside the box.

[@donaldcarr8766]

When choosing an edc folding knife, it is best to choose a design such as the spyderco shown, which incorporates a finger choil that helps prevent the knife closing on your fingers. Another good design for use in the UK is the twisted assisted Junzi.

[@jamesmacdonald1116]

just carry a bit of 2x4 around. surprising light and easy to swing, good reach and sturdy. If the police ask: On my way to a building site.

[@simontmn]

A walking stick is probably safer. Anyway don't carry a knife for self defence, it's a very bad idea to stab someone even in self defence as you are very likely to go to jail.

[@sybentley6675]

2' I bar spirit level!

[@Zeyr01]

Frustrating when cops lack the common sense for the "work" exemption or just looking to get their arrest numbers up? I know a chef who was arrested for carrying his knives from his car to work while dressed in his chef whites 🤦‍♂️ One of the questions in the interview was "Why don't you leave them at work?" A "Because these cost me over £1000" NFA but what a huge waste of time.

[@AI-Records24]

They joined the police for one reason and it wasn’t to help others

[@sybentley6675]

Cops....common sense? ....come on!

[@H4WK6969]

Last year i was wrongly accused of a crime, to clear my name i gave police access to my mobile phone and on it they found 2 photographs of my grow tent containing 4 cannabis plants which ive grown for medical reasons for over a decade. Police used these images to justify raiding my home whilst i was in custody and obviously take my plants. In the process the female officer in charge spotted my Spyderco collection which consisted of mainly 4 pocket knives, the UKPK, paramilitary 2, Manix and a Siren. When questioned about them in an interview i explained that i am a collector and that i use them for camping twice a year, use them when i go fishing and i explained how the UKPK is completely legal and is my general use around the home knife for opening parcels etc but police were having non of it. The questioning officer said they were zombie knives with no purpose except violence. Then i was forced under duress to sign a form giving police permission to destroy my collection otherwise they threatened to charge me for possessing offensive weapons, even though those knives have NEVER left my home. I was told by the officer "you need to find a better hobby than collecting daft knives" Police dont care about the law, their personal feelings come first. And just to add i have no criminal convictions or history with the police whatsoever.

[@TheSockWomble]

When will people wake up to knife crime. I grew up in South London in the early 1970s - 2000s and growing up knives were common back then on numerous occasions I had knives pulled on me but I was able to deal with it. They have got bigger and more common but the big difference now is kids don’t care and are more prepared to use them at a drop of a hat! The kids need something to do like youth clubs and engagement from older role models in combination with stop and search community driven locally in conjunction with the police. Makes me sick to hear politicians who clearly never grew up in a council house or flat talking as if they know what the problems are. I lived and breathed it and see it for what is is and to see young people stabbing others and people drying on out street is so so sad.

[@DontPanicDear]

I know the law and have chosen to ignore it. I have a 5cm folding lock knife on my keys. I use it a dozen times a day and am not prepared to use a non locker. It’s the smallest one I’ve ever carried, but have had a locking pocket knife on me for 40years now.

[@cannybearsed]

A £150 knife for opening parcels!! Really?

[@basslinerider48.17]

Rich ass bizzness init,what ussy as a knife to open a letter

[@ItsMeJoshLee]

Risk of being attacked 90%. Risk of being stopped & searched 5%.

[@Jon6429]

It's gets even more fun with bladed articles that have an assisted opening feature such as a stud or hole that permit one handed operation.

[@lindsayheyes925]

This law is illogical. A locking blade is a safety feature. I can buy a fixed blade which is much bigger, and I have some REALLY dangerous garden tools with motorised blades. And when I was at school EVERY boy had a pocket knife which they took to school. There we played games with them, made swanee whistles and all sorts. NOBODY got stabbed. NOBODY in my schools, NOBODY on the buses, NOBODY in the Boy Scouts, NOBODY in the towns I lived in. And from the age of 14 I went shooting every other weekend, and most of my friends had air-guns that had been in their families since the days when pubs had rifle ranges (yes, they did). NOBODY died! Now we have these prohibitions, powers and punishments - and massive knife and gun crime problems. If correlation is not causation, it is a sign of policy failure.

[@beyheter]

Browns came in, thats the difference

[@AI-Records24]

This is what happens when 1) we pay generous amounts to those who make policy/legislation with no limits and 2) import the 3rd world

[@anjou6497]

The real problem is drugs.

[@okaro6595]

In Finland it is simpler: It is illegal to carry anything that can be used to harm others without a good reason and carrying just in case is not enough. You must know you need it. I carry a small Victorinox knife with a 4 cm blade and that would also be illegal. I carry it so that I can open various packages and also because it has a pen.

[@binkwillans5138]

What if you sellotape a pen to a combat knife?

[@andykane4414]

Thank you for this important information It's appreciated

[@TimmyBobinson]

I know a guy that almost took his thumb off using a non-locking blade whilst in the woods preparing kindling for a fire. The issue is not the knives/tools. It is the change in culture introduced by those of another culture that have led to the increase in knife crime.

[@davidwebb4904]

You have no right to defend yourself from being a victim of crime. Hence why crime is out of control.

[@solaris8592]

Yes you do.

[@dav6131]

​@@solaris8592in practice, you don't

[@UK-Blue]

​@@dav6131 In practice you do. There's many court cases where self defence has been deemed... self defence.

[@dav6131]

@UK-Blue I think that most people don't have a lot of confidence in the law that they would be safe from prosecution if they defended themselves in some kind of physical altercation. It would be helpful to get somekind of a general, but accurate breakdown of results of cases of self-defense of this nature. I have never understood why for example, people don't have complete immunity from prosecution for defence in a situation that involves aggravated home burglary or similar.

[@KopperNeoman]

@@UK-Blue It's too vague. This is true everywhere. If Kyle Rittenhouse hadn't become world famous, he would have been thrown in a gulag.

[@thecovidprisoner]

Many things you can carry ,don't say its for protection. Would rather be judged by 12 than carried by 6.

[@robertlane913]

I see what you did there😉

[@thecovidprisoner]

​@@robertlane913 Good , maybe use it yourself. Be strong.

[@ks812]

that's the spyderco uk penknife. i got mine in 2015 for £44. they're about £99 these days. i love mine, it's been useful for more than just opening letters and packages. often a friend or family needs it and i've also used it in the garden.

[@binkwillans5138]

You bought a knife for 44 pounds? Remind me to visit a different planet next time.

[@jgomo3877]

"Legal, but not without a good reason" So, illegal if the police don't like you. Legal if you have the right connections or have the "correct" outward qualities.

[@Malpriorvids]

The Right To Bear Arms was taken away (illegally?) from British citizens as it was deemed that the police would defend crimes against the person and property with the Government protecting our borders and shores. Both parties have failed spectacularly, so they have reneged on their contract with the peoples of these isles.

[@alasarcher400]

There is no such thing as "The right to bear arms". Thats just something slave owners invented on stolen land in order to keep slaves from escaping or revolting.

[@taekwanlew]

Christ what a rediculous comment. The right was taken away in 1689 and had nothing to do with the police as they did not exist. It was a bigoted bill to stop catholics from owning weapons. England is world famous for its bigotry which is still true today, as your comment proves

[@Real-Ruby-Red]

Pepper spray is non lethal and I can't understand why it isn't legal to carry. Being able to defend yourself should be a god given right.

[@NOT_SURE..]

nicorette anti smoking spray is a brilliant substitute for mace, if you get it in the eyes you've got a good 15 mins to amble off

[@danlancia]

What I can't understand is pepper spray is seen as a firearm in Britain so we would be in a lot more trouble than carrying a knife that could actually be used to kill, the laws in this country are ridiculous

[@Real-Ruby-Red]

@@NOT_SURE.. how do you know this 😅

[@grahvis]

When you get mugged by someone giving you a face full of pepper spray, you might realise why it iis not legal to carry.

[@Real-Ruby-Red]

@@grahvis genuis! I have an idea why dont we make mugging illegal so the criminal cant mug me, 2 birds 1 stone!

[@angryparsnip9363]

"In self defence, you're taking it out with intent to cause harm to someone." No, im taking it out to prevent someone harming me...

[@ninaaniston1717]

Clearly, the law works like a charm. Streets are safe, people don’t get stabbed, banning handguns had similar miraculous effect.

[@navajojohn9448]

Against the law to use a locking knife that is legal to carry to the fishing lake and legal to use but is illegal to use for self defense. Does that include when fishing? My God, the insanity of being forbid the right to the most effective self defense available at the time and place. Forced victim hood.

[@Aitch-Two-Oh]

Illegal to CARRY for self defence. Not illegal to USE for self defence. In both instances it would be an offensive weapon, but only the latter can be justified.

[@AI-Records24]

@@UKRO404that’s why you use pepper spray if you have no experience in martial arts or have a disability, or are female.

[@philipkaminski163]

The UK citizen has about as much rights as the North Korean citizen when it comes to self defense... Any government that requires its citizens to render themselves defense less is criminal by definition.

[@louislouis2525]

nobody here talking about a man spending £150 on a knife to open packages?

[@navajojohn9448]

In my state anybody can carry a knife with a 4inch blade or smaller but can't be a switch blade type. Additionally swords are legal carry as long as they are not hidden under clothing and such. Then it is legal to carry martial arts Ninja throwing Stars as long as blades less than 4 inches.

[@navajojohn9448]

After the knife rules you would think at least non lethal tools would be allowed. But pepper sprays, stun guns, tazers, no. Just rape alarms.

[@mikehipperson]

Can't even carry a torch that has a distracting flash option as it may cause your assailant eye problem in a mythical future!

[@syndrome5372]

The fun part is if you or your house get searched theres a very very good chance theyll confiscate it anyway.

[@bobadams7654]

The spyderco is safe when open as it has an indentation for the thumb. This stops it from closing. Excellent knife.

[@KnowledgeIsPower-dn4hx]

That was helpful to me. Thank you 👍🙏

[@noelward8047]

What will the police do if the pencil in your pocket is too sharp !?!

[@Jaccayumitty]

Exactly the same as carrying a small non-locking penknife. That is; Absolutely nothing, unless in either case you're stupid enough to tell them that you carry it for self-defence. Because it's illegal to carry a weapon. Any object that you can normally carry quite legally becomes illegal if the purpose of carrying it is to cause harm to anyone else. No matter what it is, if it's capable of causing harm and you're carrying it to use as a weapon, then a weapon is what it is.

[@misterg1157]

They may say, while addressing you in a friendly, chatty manner: “That’s very handy in case anyone attacks you, isn’t it?“. You reply “Yes” even though the thought has never crossed your mind. “It’s dangerous around here, isn’t it?” “Yes”. “You carry it to defend yourself, just in case, I assume?” “Yes”. That’s it - you’re nicked.

[@RandomShart]

If you were to tell them that you carry the sharp pencil to defend yourself then it will be treated as an offensive weapon. No joke 😂

[@binkwillans5138]

Tell them you use it to attack people and rob them. You're from Newcastle, right? The police will understand.

[@HeathenGeek]

Narwhal tusk? 🙄

[@peterturner8766]

The Narwhal tusk incident has taken on something of a legendary status. However, in that incident, tusk was on display on the wall when as the incident developed and was taken in the heat of the moment. There was no intention to use it as a weapon beforehand.

[@wrightfamily4373]

I was recently pulled over in my motorhome. This was because of an issue with stolen motorhome in the area. But whilst he did his checks ( enjoyed a coffee along with the officer)he went inside the rear and we sat around the table in comfort. He had noticed there were kitchen knives in the sink And a knife rack on the side attached to the wall however he pointed out these should be in a drawer and not within reach whilst driving which I could at that time. Although it was within the area of what it was safe he pointed out it could be considered unsafe and should be in drawers not within easy reach whilst driving. He didn’t do anything to take further but was making me aware.

[@greatscott369]

At work i won't use retractable knives because they often retract when trying to cut things, foldable ones can fold on your fingers. I've been doing this 20 years. I'm not changing that.

[@Countryboy071]

My edc is the Benchmade weekender-317BK. Highly recommend. Also has a smaller utility folder and bottle opener 👍 According to statistics the majority of uk knife crime is committed using kitchen knives and utility blades. Unfortunately this affects us enthusiasts and collectors who use blades responsibly 😢

[@MikeR-pq8qe]

Get a svord peasant mini.... they are like 25 quid, don't lock but the tang presses against your hand so it won't close on your fingers. Great little pocket carving knife or parcel opener or whatever you need it for, always take it when I'm hiking and it's a solid, legal edc option.

[@SodaBread-ie]

Many multitools often sold with a belt pouch .Have screwdrivers, pliers, ruler, can opener, short knife blades which lock when open. The locking part can be permanently removed by snapping it off. police stopped me in a Manchester street, searched me nothing found although my house keys & car key caught their attention. Was told my car key had been altered sharpened and it locks in position. They asked me where my car was parked, car park i replied. I ask would you like to walk with me to the car park. They said yes. After half a mile they ask which car park, i reply Gatwick airport long stay. They ask how did i get to manchester. i reply British Airways. They waddled off....

[@ianlivsey7200]

Daniel, another caveat. I bought a knife for everyday carry and use believing it was perfectly legal as it wasn't lockable, but wouldn't close on the fingers as the palm of ones hand prevented that from happening. However, I later found out that, despite the length of the blade being under 3", it was still not a legal EDC knife because, measuring around the curve of the blade, it was more than 3". They make a slightly smaller version of the same knife, so I bought one of those to carry with me, and keep the slightly bigger one for home use.

[@Al3x1066]

Whoever measured that must measure their dick starting at their asshole haha

[@DontPanicDear]

This has already been covered. The length from the tip to the hilt / body of the handle. This is including any dull area near the hinge.

[@pjaj43]

How are multi-tools like the Leatherman classified? It has a blade that folds out and locks in place, as do all the other tools it contains except the pair of pliers. It's a two handed exercise to open or close them. By the time you've removed it from it's snap lock leather case, unfolded just the blade you want and refolded the body to make a handle, your prospective antagonist has either already killed you or is in the next county.

[@TheGreatest1974]

Any fixed blade or any blade that locks is illegal to carry. Any blade with a cutting edge longer than 7.5 cm is illegal even if it doesn’t lock.