Every Reason Why Attack on Titan Chapter 139 is Objectively God Awful

if you watch it all you a real one.

[@saintitchief]

I'm not the type to cry but when I tell ya'll I was holding back tears when I was talkin about how Isa did Eren LMAOOOO also I shoulda made this 2 minutes longer so it coulda been 1:39 lol Subscribe to hear me bitch about AoT some more

[@whymahe8382]

Oh boiiii I'm gonna love this

[@Sam-sv4yy]

Great work man

[@maeneae]

will do

[@thatoneblackdude3333]

The worse part of the chapter is that it's just emotional manipulation giving all the favs happy endings , making eren some sympathetic hero , eremika , the Damn scarf

[@Sam-sv4yy]

@@thatoneblackdude3333 The funny thing is that ending is forced made to look positive, but the logical conclusions from it lead to the opposite effects. This is called "forced trash ending", similar to the death note - where the main character was made an idiot so that he would quickly lose to the old opponent's substitute (all to extend the plot after L's death).

[@takakei6887]

The line that ended it all: "I don't know"

[@thatoneblackdude3333]

How to kill half your fanbase with s single line

[@__-dq9ev]

@@thatoneblackdude3333 How to kill 80% of your fanbase with a single line

[@saloni22815]

Lol

[@roman108]

“Only Ymir knows”

[@thatoneblackdude3333]

@@roman108 only kondancha knows

[@frostdice3252]

When you realise that armin is heading to sign a peace treaty when the government of eldia is named after the man who killed 80% of the world

[@Capo_4L]

Lmao

[@rajpandey5901]

Big Oof

[@saloni22815]

Lol

[@user-zv6cf3km6h]

@_______ and people call this ending realistic😭😭😭

[@thedeal6017]

Too bad Armin has a leaf with him

[@Its.Chenzilla]

They show us the panel that Ymir is in love with the king while he’s flirting with his concubines what a joke

[@luxeternity]

Really make me puke. People defending this chapter literally defending rape, slavery, cannibalism, thanking for doing genocide etc lmao

[@ayesha_h]

As a female fan, I was deeply troubled by the whole ymir loving king shitz message

[@myesharose9819]

Honestly I had no idea they were cocubines cuz I literally thought that they were Ymir daughter's for a minute there disgusting.

[@rickchakraborty2087]

Wait they weren't ymir's children?!

[@myesharose9819]

@@rickchakraborty2087 That's what I said too! 👀 that shocked me.

[@Krax0n-]

Eren: _Massacres 80% of the world_ Armin: "We good" 20% of the world: "An eldian just killed 80% of the world and you think it's fine because you saved u-" Armin: "I SAID WE GOOD"

[@luxeternity]

That's what happen when you got monged

[@safinhh8312]

armin: stfu, we gooodddd, eldians dont exist no more

[@rickchakraborty2087]

Armin will win using Talk no Jutsu so don't worry guys! Be optimistic! 😀

[@darkbornelines4587]

Bruh lmao

[@TonysLittleFavorite]

Extra pages leaked: Paradis DESTROYED hahahahahahahahaha

[@mutesgraveyard6733]

Armin can easily talk no jutsu a more seasoned military stoic person but cant talk no jutsu his closed friend who always by his side is kinda tragic.

[@filip.b345]

Armin tried talk no Jutsu lots of time in the series and it always failed until Zeke like when he tried to not get them cannoned in the 1 season and that guy was about to blow them up until Pixis appeared or when tried it on Berthold and he nuked them instead.

[@mutesgraveyard6733]

@@filip.b345 thx for the reminder. Yeah, it just kinda sad when a person he want to convince the most, but he cant.

[@kiattim2100]

Yeah because tHiS wOrLd iS cRuEl

[@MangoboyEdits8382]

​@@filip.b345thats too bad man some zekes character got ruined by armins no jutsu talk

[@watchamigos1232]

Still can't believe this chapter is canon. Eren wanting to live after killing the world, wanting redemption, wanting Mikasa. Ymir did all the stuff out of love for king Fritz. Love? Mikasa was the chosen one even though she only protected Eren, nothing more. Armin thanking Eren for becoming a mass murderer. 80% of the population died but the people in Marley of all places like Annie's father survived? And suddenly after killing Eren, they are all remembering Eren, even Pieck? And Eren just said he killed his mother in some way? What, I mean literally what is this?

[@user-74856]

Also......... Paradis got destroyed in the end anyways lol

[@aegonii8471]

Isayama was depressed af nigga should’ve gave himself time to release the final chapter. He was creating a modern classic and made his Manga company millions of dollars they should’ve been treating him like the Pope and let him release the ending whenever he wanted.

[@aegonii8471]

@@user-74856 Imagine if Isayama got the same amount of time as Miura to release AOT chapters dis shi would’ve been the greatest story ever.

[@user-74856]

@@aegonii8471 bro even if he wanted to go with this ending........he could've atleast made it a little better like - 1- remove the scene where eren Kruger , grisha,etc come back to fight eren.(this scene did nothing but ruin the storyline) 2- remove the scene where eren is crying and simpin for Mikasa (it was totally out of character for eren to behave like a pathetic clown). 3- Historia's baby should've been erens kid (I'm not saying this because I'm a shipper or something like that.....it just would've gone well with the overall story). 4- remove the scene where Armin is thanking eren for genocide of 80% population..... 5- there was no need of the scene where eren is revealing that he was the one who murdered his mom all along (that did nothing for the plot but just made erens character look more dumb and clueless). If isayama has half a braincell left then he would atleast correct these major problems in the AOE .

[@user-74856]

@@aegonii8471 it's so frustrating bro.......it's like he purposefully butchered the ending..... 🤦🏻‍♂️

[@xeternalxeyesx]

Annie sleeping for 9 years just to wake up, not answer for anything and have a happy ending…

[@annett5]

actually, 4 years but yeah

[@user-xx6vy9ri8p]

Well, happy assuming she wasn't executed on Paradiz with the rest of negotiators...

[@MrsPokefan2009]

Bruh, how did Armin even know what he told Mikasa lmao

[@DrJay-iy8rv]

🤯🤯🤯

[@thatoneblackdude3333]

How can he plant or suppress memories of mikasa when she's a arkermen she's not supposed to be effected by that

[@MrsPokefan2009]

@@thatoneblackdude3333 I mean you can argue he sent her the memories before he died unlike Armin. She's still an Eldian and can communicate through Paths. In this translation it says "the day" which suggests it was at least a couple days ago but in the official translation it says "when" which is pretty vague. Idk how it is in the original text 🤷‍♀️

[@thatoneblackdude3333]

@@MrsPokefan2009 there's a difference between talking through paths and straight up messing with her memories he can talk to her through paths in real time and she'd hear him but he shouldn't be able to suppress her memories of talking to him that memory manipulation which is established he shouldn't be able to do

[@MrsPokefan2009]

@@thatoneblackdude3333 he didn't have to suppress them, only send them in his last moments. According to grandpa Ackerman, the Founding can't alter and erase their memories, but Eren might have done neither. Unless the translation is correct and it was few days ago that she received this "dream". Or the headaches are due to this suppression. Then you are right. Honestly this could be somewhat believable, among other major ass pulls.

[@keytra6291]

To this day I don’t understand why Mikasa is the one person Armin and Eren are talking about. Eren just slaughtered 80% of the world, billions upon billions of people. But no, let’s talk about the stalker girl and how unacceptable it is to turn down someone’s feelings for you if they’ve been obsessing over you for years. What a disgusting message. And the complete destruction of Armin’s character.

[@euph1na]

I think Armin was manipulating Eren to make him talk by mentioning Mikasa, since until then Eren seemed pretty emotionless about all this

[@keytra6291]

@@euph1na But then when Eren’s finally talking they don’t mention the Rumbling at all? Doesn’t make sense, Armin should be absolutely flipping out on Eren for murdering so many innocent people

[@euph1na]

@@keytra6291 Eren told Armin that he did the rumbling, and there really isn’t anything for Armin to do except ask why. I don’t think he would yell at Eren for something he’s done already, when he’s about to die. But Isayama definitely should’ve shown Armin to be more upset

[@keytra6291]

@@euph1na True. Actually thanking him for the Rumbling was disgusting beyond measure

[@euph1na]

@@keytra6291 Yeah. That line Isayama even said he regrets writing like that since it looks like Armin is thanking Eren for genocide.

[@eurasiaacaci.-110]

- code giase route is too idealistic he said ( *which he copied miserably* ) - he hate childhood relationship he said - he hated characters lying he said - historia is his favorite character he said ( *which he yeeted her out of the story* ) - eren view mikasa as a mother he said - a man holding the baby would be the last panel he said - the baby would be important he said - keep moving forward he said All the things isayama said and hinted contradicts all that happened in the last chapter.

[@th3_ph4ntomreborn31]

He did a little trolling Maybe not that little

[@Sam-sv4yy]

Liar

[@meawiyaothman7872]

When did he say that the Code Geass route is too idealistic? Do you have a source bro? I need it

[@thatoneblackdude3333]

Order Ishyama was forced to change the ending or this dude was capping for years years Idk which is worse

[@thatoneblackdude3333]

@@meawiyaothman7872 he was talking about how eren dismissed the idea of a code geass ending but then ends up doing it anyway and it's garbage

[@ralphr2711]

There's already a dislike from cringy EM Stans that still defend this messy ending, most likely from Twitter/Tiktok/ or those pseudo-intellectuals from their snk/AoT subreddit circlejerk... The SNK/AoT fanbase has become a laughing stock for other fandoms...lol

[@th3_ph4ntomreborn31]

I the ending is not that bad not that godlike how some blind people say. It's average

[@ralphr2711]

@@th3_ph4ntomreborn31 Nah, these final chapters we especially the last one makes no sense if you focus on the plot and not the cringy shipping wars...

[@bnyx33]

@@ralphr2711 yea fr tho the EMs shippers kinda toxic after chapter 139 is out

[@th3_ph4ntomreborn31]

@@ralphr2711 the plot is confused, it took me 2 weeks to figure out but makes sense (at most Ymir love is incredibly disturbing but can be explained, literally chap137 armin-zeke conversation help to understand)

[@th3_ph4ntomreborn31]

@@bnyx33 EH AND EM are both toxic I don't know which of the two piss me the most

[@aquazircon32]

Your rant is my therapy. Thank you bro

[@Gas-maske]

Bruh saaaame Bro 😭Those Video where they say the Ending is Peak Fiction just worse my Mental health 💀

[@immentallyhandicapped2903]

@@Gas-maske please by all means give me a link.

[@Gas-maske]

@@immentallyhandicapped2903 Just look up at KZbin,you'll find many stupid Defenders

[@artemistheory]

I’ve given hours to people’s rant to heal my hurt.

[@nutritionandphysiology8023]

@@Gas-maske Isayama did it. He's finally free from the shackles of consistent characters and a coherent plot.

[@generaljeanmoreau6853]

Eren in chapter 139: waaaaaaah I don't want mikasa to find another man, I wanted her to only think of me for 10 years waaaaaaah. I could have dated her but didn't waaaah. Armin: eren why genocide? Eren: OK 80% Armin: thankyou eren..

[@fr0ck360]

Also Reiner: Mmmm historia’s hands *kira yoshikage intensifies*

[@StinkiiAlt]

This ending is payment for all the slander AOT fans brought to other series.

[@shamarbrown2677]

Yep

[@alexstein2691]

Most other big series are far more trash, they’re just consistently trash whereas AoT just completely and totally fails to end well and stick the landing. It’s much easier to land a paper airplane than an airliner

[@AnnaMarianne]

As a Tolkien fan, after years of slander by GoT fans, I admit my condolences to them 2 years ago weren't entirely sincere.

[@felixtla93]

@@AnnaMarianne LOTR is the true masterpiece Its about consistency and tollkien manage to do that, What a legend.

[@akaza.3597]

Tit for tat

[@user-ug2to5bo1q]

Zeke literally said to Armin Eren was the only one to understand Ymir and now this chapter is telling us readers that Eren never understood her and along was in love with someone who enslaved her. Characters like Reiner, Eren, zeke were all ruined so Armin could be seen as hero and make mikasa the centrepiece of the show.

[@blee-bleep3906]

literally,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, “MCs” ruined the whole series

[@rachichi4092]

Even Armin's character is ruined, Mikasa never had a character development to begin with (for the most of the manga until few chapters before the end).

[@Krax0n-]

@@rachichi4092 yeah but even that "character development" from mikasa gets FUCKED OVER the literal next chapter by her still grieving and not getting over ereh, "my genocidal bf"

[@user-ug2to5bo1q]

@@rachichi4092 Armin fucking kept on mentioning mikasa like stfu

[@ziphyzephyr7131]

@@user-ug2to5bo1q he even disregarded the horror of Eren killing his mother and would rather talk about Mikasa....

[@SnuSnuDungeon]

Finally someone said it. Mikasa is insignificant. She was literally worthless and has been for some time now. She went from a Yandere, a literal discount Yuno Gasai to a freaking Mary Sue! She's an Ackerman, decendant of a supposed royal Hizuru bloodline on her mother's side and Ymir's chosen one!? GTFO with that bullshit

[@celinecathalie1588]

Thank you for remind me all of that, i almost forgot all of it wkwkwkwkwk

[@keyboardwarrior3807]

@@celinecathalie1588 awokawokawok

[@alexvaughan1013]

It reminds me of how Kurosaki Ichigo turns out to be a human, Shinigami, Hollow, Vizard, only one who can defeat Aizen, Fullbringer, Quincy, Titan, Hokage, King of Pirates...

[@Borderose]

Wouldn't say she's worthless or a Sue, but goddamn did Yams throw a curveball at us. Unless we get a different ending in the anime, when AoT passes into public domain, let's will our descendants to make sure that the Requiem ending is the one that gets passed on.

[@shezyam460]

@@Borderose her character depends on eren, without eren, her character would actually have progression and develop, but it seems that in the ending mikasa still couldn't let go lmao

[@user-zv6cf3km6h]

Waiting for the: YoU jUsT DoNT UnDErStANd ThE StOrY. Comments

[@Zerohopexe]

Or the "You don't like it because it's not the ending you wanted." Assumption everyone throws out when running into someone who doesn't like the ending

[@ayesha_h]

Don't forget "YOu're juSt mAD yOur sHip iSN't cAnOn"

[@rillzy9637]

It’s sad that people just can’t accept that someone could have a different opinion and that’s perfectly ok.

[@fr0ck360]

Oh boy here comes the 300 words of essay from defenders/shippers saying “yOu’Re jUsT a HatEr jUsT bEcAuSe eReN iSn’T aN eDgY gEnOcIdAl mAnIaC” argument that I’ve seen for the 50th time in aot videos

[@titanblade3706]

“You’re just mad EM is canon” - some dumbass

[@tobecontinued436]

Floch was trying to save us from this horrible ending. RIP 👑

[@mugiwaraluffy1857]

He's one of my fav characters in aot. He grew so much as a person and a great character.

[@francozzogiannatelli4360]

@@mugiwaraluffy1857 used to hate floch but i now see he's the eren i always wanted. RIP

[@VGInterviews]

What the fuck are you talking about, if anyone got what he wanted in the end is floch, sure the rumbling didn't kill EVERYONE outside as he wanted but still Eldia ended up as the clear strongest force and the island turned into a full military state where apparently not even Historia can oppose them Hell if the idiot hadnt delayed them they would've arrived earlier and falco wouldn't have been on time to save them, Eren would've won, Floch caused the rumbling to fail

[@justadummy8076]

@@francozzogiannatelli4360I used to hate him coz of his haircut, but he really grew on me after the attack on Marley/Declaration of War arc, and by the end he was probably my favourite character coz he was 100% right about everything. He was also right about resurrecting Erwin over Armin

[@Chaoswalker.]

I hate mickasa she killed floch the legend she is truly a bicth

[@elvisalanbay7443]

the way Armin wanted to convince Eren not to do the rumbling for about 30 chapters, but in the end chose to mention Eren hurting him and Mikasa instead xD

[@luxeternity]

He cry like a little bitch about mikasa and not Carla.

[@dorkknight7225]

Eren hurts mikasa Armin: YOU MFING PIECE OF FUMING PILE OF DOGSHIT RRARARARARA REEEESESEEEEEEE Eren: I killed mom lol Armin: Thank you eren

[@annett5]

​​​​​​@@dorkknight7225 Eren: I killed my mom, made my dad murder a family, so I could eat him later, am responsible for sasha's death and killing hange, destroyed more than 50 % of humanity, endangered you guys even more for no reason and didn't know if you would survive this far Armin: it's ok

[@theswagman1263]

@@dorkknight7225 I feel like mikasa was isayamas favourite character since he made her not only from some special family but also the chosen one of Ymir. even though he gave her virtually no character development other than being the best at everything and liking eren, her two character traits.

[@GT_rising24]

Armin didn't guilt trip Annie but he guilt tripped Eren💀

[@johnrenwelmauro2387]

Typical simp

[@stark0168]

The sad thing is , the more I think about this THING , the more I get pissed at myself for wasting my time , my money and my love for THIS ..... .

[@elonaackerman4163]

For real the analysis and for what ?

[@yourlocalhuman3526]

@@elonaackerman4163 4 years of analysis gon to waste 😭😭

[@elonaackerman4163]

@@yourlocalhuman3526 I was like: « Omg what a philosophical masterpiece » Turns out it’s a fascist masterpiece bye

[@SnuSnuDungeon]

Yeah I feel that. If Isayama thinks he's going to have my support for his next manga he's out of his mind. This ending has destroyed any intention of me following his career now

[@tender3545]

*looks at my collection of 32 volumes on my shelf, feeling grief overwhelm every fiber of my being

[@joseph-bs8yn]

My main problem with the dina reveal, is that it means eren can manipulate the past and that opens a massive can of worms and plotholes in the series

[@michaelcarnevale5620]

exactly... and he can manipulate the memories of eldians and build whatever he wants wherever he wants and everything... so we have no idea what rly happened in this story at all... no idea what was relevant and wat was just the doing of a 4-dimensional god-being that no character ever even engages with (a few panels with armin don't count cuz that didn't even amount to anything).

[@zenldh]

@@michaelcarnevale5620 let's don't forget that as founding titan, they have the power to change eldian biologically if not physically, thus why the infertile plan by zeke. can't eren and zeke just make the eldian strong or what not. bcm an ackerman, einstein or something. the rumbling can be used as a decoy or something. eren can even explain to the eldians using path and they would probably support him or whatnot. Just imagine a strong eldians take over Marley's government. I rly dont know the limit of the founding titan's power. it can alter memories, it can euthanize, it can control titans. it is basically a god power from the source of all living beings which is halluchan. 🥴

[@michaelcarnevale5620]

@@zenldh for sure ya... overall the story left me with a bunch of questions and no conclusion. i've never been so disappointed in a work of fiction in my entire life. i literally thought AoT was going to be this generation's masterpiece until the last few chapters.

[@husseinmoussa2947]

@@michaelcarnevale5620 for me aot is a masterpiece after the episode the rumbling beginns and maybe some episodes after it but what bothers me is how annie has no talk with levi or was introduced so dumb with cake eating. Could have been way better isayama already did A LOT more and better things and that‘s not hard at all

[@michaelcarnevale5620]

@@husseinmoussa2947 for me it is also a masterpiece, but only until the final act ... the ending totally ruined it for me ... i thought AOT was truly groundbreaking until everything felt random and cobbled together

[@klmknop]

We could have had the greatest ending ever with Eren being a villain till the end, succeeding with the rumbling and all of his friends dying in the process, and him living with grief and regret for the rest of his life. But nope, the cucks at Kodansha were more worried about their merch sales and we got this corny garbage ending with Eren’s character being assassinated and retconned, being thanked for genocide, getting a burial and being a bird symbolism for freedom.

[@ralphr2711]

TataCAW TataCAW 🐦

[@thatoneblackdude3333]

I wasn't even a big fan of " Chad eren" and I'm upset at what Ishyama did with him

[@thedeal6017]

Lol I think he is actually a bird not just symbolism

[@klmknop]

@@thedeal6017 even worse lmao

[@Iam_wIll1]

Bro AnR wouldn't make sense. There would be no reason for Eren to kill his friends

[@itswhatever1737]

Thanks to Isayama for downplaying controversial political issues to love. I’m sure future Mangakas will not make the same mistakes as you.

[@elmehdi8332]

It's actually the opposite, most of Japanese fans liked the ending which is bad cause this ending will influence future mangakas, they will became lazy and this ending will push them to make cliche ass mangas with no creativity and people will still like them. People who are defending this ending should realize that they're not helping the manga and anime industry this will just kill the creativity of future mangakas and they will keep making trash stories with bad endings cause everyone will like them at the end

[@itswhatever1737]

@@elmehdi8332 I don’t think most liked the ending but was tolerable to them and they are usually so polite with the endings because of their culture that they usually don’t openly criticise, forums is where you see criticisms.

[@eurasiaacaci.-110]

@@elmehdi8332 eramika fans man, they are the majority

[@elmehdi8332]

@@itswhatever1737 no the majority of Japanese fans liked it they love the romantic cute endings, most of them have trash taste they enjoy watching cliche shonens and shity isekais

[@elmehdi8332]

@@eurasiaacaci.-110 yes bro it's so unfortunate, most of erimikasa fans who are defending the ending are cringey af they don't care about the plot at all

[@LegendaryBattalion]

None of the characters, are the same ones I’ve been following for years. It’s like Iseyama forgot who his characters were. So disappointing.

[@ralphr2711]

only Ymir knows why...😂

[@firejeff12354]

Exactly smh

[@ayesha_h]

Isayama literally ignored all the character arcs that he himself created just to give us a cheap plot twist for the sake of shocking us.

[@oneandonly8746]

Even Historia is a lot minor in the final arc

[@cris9242]

Give me an example of AoC

[@werewolfkid9211]

Honestly I'm kind of glad Erwin died because I'm afraid if he lived he would've been turned into a terrible character like the others. This way he at least died a champ

[@dailydoseofspoilers8089]

Same for Floch. Tbh I think he’s more loyal to Eren than his two closest best friends Armin and Mikasa cause he died for Eren and believed in him.

[@nekozombie]

@@dailydoseofspoilers8089 I don't get why some people are so infatuated by Floch. To me sucks as a character not because I disagree with him, but he's just such a forced plot-devicey character. Why do you like him? :o

[@Vortex_ICEcold]

@@nekozombie because he’s the result of Erwins leadership in a way. Him and Jean are great examples of what happens to people in that environment. One has control of his emotions and the other doesn’t. Jean and floch had a good amount of character development. Armin and mikasa had none.

[@nekozombie]

@@Vortex_ICEcold I'd say Armin and Mikasa suffer from character deterioration, they freaking suck, especially Armin. How can a character become so bad; I cannot fathom. Regardless, I don't feel that people like him because of him being a result of Erwin's leadership, I seriously think it's just because he fits in the nationalistic pseudo-imperialist archetype. The issue. to me is that I feel people like him because of that in a very superficial way. The character is really hollow imo, and his development feels like a necessity to instigate conflict. It would've been great to see him become what he did in an interesting way, it would've been great. I feel something similar about Eren as in, I wish they showed his development from the very beginning instead of showing us the serious longhaired version first in Season 4.

[@hawkeyemihawkgettingmoneylord]

​@@nekozombie because floch was the only one that made sense he wanted to live and wanted all his comrades to live. The alliance just thought all there problems would just magically disappear. Floch had enough balls to confront the problem not runaway.

[@tobecontinued436]

This ending completely ruined the series for me. It's incredible how years and years of loving an anime can be destroyed by the worst ending anyone could ever imagine.

[@sammybutler3027]

There’s no way there can be that many contradictions in one chapter unintentionally, I feel like he pulled an Eren with the “I’ve always hated you” line, he wrote it to be so bad intentionally to make us have absolutely zero expectations for the ending and that way when AOE happens we are so shocked bc not only has it hardly happened before in anime/manga history, but also everyone who knows the ending is astounded by how he planned it out to be that way

[@PositivelyPresent1]

I always thought Eren and Historia were a thing and he got her pregnant … Historia was a main character because we have an entire episode named after her, season 2 and 3 almost revolve around her… her story her history, her family , her relationship with Ymir, her pregnancy coinciding with the rumbling… everything was so detailed… I thought she had a character growth curve similar to Eren… Mikasa‘S backstory is hardly explored… we don’t even know about the Ackerman powers, her only role is to protect Erin like she has OCD… he never shows any interest in her but he is shown taking interest in Historia … so I don’t understand how was this ending screwed so bad…

[@Philthorn]

Just don't, I neither wanna talk nor hear anything about it

[@taigaseji]

@@Philthorn says eren yeager

[@solymossyakos8526]

Aside from the million problems of the last chapter,, i never understood people who thought that Histroas kid is Erens. I always thtlught thats the dumbest sht, even though it would KINDOF make sense thematically. But they can not even make contact. I dont think Isayama ever planned it to be Erens kid.

[@marhoon7737]

@@solymossyakos8526why not? These memory stuff happen at random with historia you need a Titan with Royal blood to actually get the founder powers

[@deadcindrella1296]

​@@solymossyakos8526 you are saying "they can't even touch or make contact with each other for future memory thing" if you are intelligent reader then you will know Eren doesn't always gets future memories when he touchs historia. That future memory this is predetermined event that ONLY happens when future eren allows present eren to experience them under specific circumstances. Historia is touching eren in the cave but eren was not experiencing neurotic flashbacks . Right? Farther more jean implies they tried awakening more memories by holding hands but that didn't work either. ("Maybe if you stopped holding hands with historia for once....") Next time read the manga or atleast watch the anime carefully 😑

[@xhy9178]

What breaks me is that AoT's ending is so bad, that its logic contradicts literally everything the series has set up. What a great let down.

[@lxfj2128]

Agreed

[@ziphyzephyr7131]

True and you can't reread it with ch139 in mind. It will just give you a headache for seeing plothole after plothole and a whole lot of contradictions...

[@taka3634]

Wrong

[@v4n113]

contradicts what exactly??

[@sieveign]

@@v4n113 literally every character interaction we've seen. every. single. last. one.

[@PushLikesAwrinjes]

I really thought the ending would grow on me after a couple days but the more I look at it and try to make sense the worse it gets. It pains me that I spent money on this series

[@mia3033]

Thats the thing, it ages like milk

[@deuce5546]

Honestly. The ending gets worse the more you think about it. You would think after the rage and disappointment goes away, you would see it better, but with a clearer mind, the glaring flaws just increase in number.

[@gg2fan]

Same, immediately after I read it I was like "I guess... that wasn't THAT bad?" But within a few hours, the more I thought about it the more I hated literally every single thing about it.

[@YHWHsam]

@@deuce5546 I’m a year late😂 but I read the manga ending like a week ago and I had the same thought process of u and I’m hating it now more than ever

[@__-dq9ev]

The fact there are less videos defending AOT's ending than criticizing it, proves the ending is trash

[@th3_ph4ntomreborn31]

Actually it's pretty balanced in number if you watch the visuals

[@ralphr2711]

@@th3_ph4ntomreborn31 There are more people shitting on the ending on YT than shilling it. Meanwhile EM stans on Twitter/Tiktok/ SNK Subreddit (there are a lot of cringy pseudo-intellectual circlejerking in that subreddit) are defending that shitshow of an ending...😂

[@th3_ph4ntomreborn31]

@@ralphr2711 yea but the neutral videos have more visuals than the hate one so the thing balance

[@Jakovegan269]

True. When I even saw the reaction of the usually hyped and opitimisic RogersBase and him not really liking the ending I knew it was just no good

[@maeneae]

I cant wait for soul's take on the ending

[@valthiriansunstrider2540]

He totally destroyed the themes and story he was working with. Isayama is not above reproach or criticism, he *should* be criticized for this. It's morally wrong to lie to your audience and assassinate your most inspiring characters.

[@sumukhsai2097]

Honestly I am happy for the characters that died prior to this. At least they didn't get butchered to the point where you hate the characters. Like Freckled Ymir, Erwin, etc. Would have been sad to see more well developed characters suffer with bad writing

[@ConstantinDOSSOU-vy1zo]

Eren is an inspiring character now 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣. This ending is trash but Eren never was a good character to begin with

[@annett5]

Armin should have punched eren after "I don't know why I did the rumbling" But no, Mikasa's feelings are more relevant

[@mithvibes4727]

it's almost like the rumbling already happened to punching him would literally do nothing but cause unnecessary tension . eren explained his reason , as delusional as it was because he's a delusional character . armin understands this and knows what eren went through . he's simply making the best out of the situation which is what armin always does

[@annett5]

@@mithvibes4727 then armin shouldn't punch him at all. Prioritizing mikasa over genocide is not consistent with his character

[@JojoSmacks]

​@@mithvibes4727Eren literally had just killed ramzi. Meaning the rumbling had just begun. Eren freezed time in paths as he talked to Armin we presume. Meaning 139 happens briefly after ramzi dies and erens freedom monologue.

[@RedLaneArts]

At the end Floch was a better character than 90% of the characters.

[@mariekano9730]

Him and Gabi were the best

[@Itach1Uch1ha]

Average titanfolk user.

[@JForsha]

🧢🧢🧢🧢🧢🧢

[@Wolf-vy7et]

What a chad

[@deuce5546]

Yeagerists always had better arguments than the Alliance we just didn't see it at the time.

[@javrocks]

The funny thing is that those girls around King Frit's weren't his children they were his concubines yet Ymir still loved him

[@nighthunter8738]

A detaile that a lot of people that miss is that with Eren having the ability to control people like Dina to eat his mother, Eren being able to manipulate eldians, shifters and ackermans and Eren being able to see all of time. Eren lets every eldian that dies after Ymir happen. The Eldian Empire. "Well i can influence them so that the world achieve peace, plus i have the power to see the future so i will know the consequences of this and find a way to do it, but i wont do anything." The wall is broken: "Well i can move every person out of the way, so they don't get hit by Bertholdts rubble and freeze the titans so everyone gets to evacuate without any deaths, again i won't do that." "Oh, sorry Sasha i know i can manipulate and fix you body, so you don't die when Gabi shoot you, or just stop Gabi from shooting you in the first place, but i won't, sorry i just don't." Eren is responsible for practically every death for 2000 years, and by what Willy Tybur tells us that is possibly billions of people...

[@thatoneblackdude3333]

Right ? The implications of eren killing his mom breaks the story

[@saintitchief]

facts. didn't even think of this.

[@th3_ph4ntomreborn31]

I think he can control dina because of her royal blood

[@nighthunter8738]

@@th3_ph4ntomreborn31 Eren can also control normal titans as shown when he kills Dina, with no real understanding of his powers at the time. Also the colossal titans.

[@ayesha_h]

YoU JuST dIDnt UnDerStANd tHE StORy

[@PieceOfCherryCake]

Eren 139 and his 80% trash plan makes me want to shake him, force him to watch Breaking Bad and scream Mike's quote "NO HALF MEASURES!" into his face over and over again.

[@sergiosalazar8702]

Breaking Bad is so peak fr

[@meawiyaothman7872]

Armin is by far the worst character in fiction

[@ralphr2711]

You don't rike the Umi Da speech and Talk no Jutsu? 😂

[@meawiyaothman7872]

@@ralphr2711 the fact that he was such a good character before the time skip, now he literally assassinated zeke and eren 😂

[@ralphr2711]

@@meawiyaothman7872 His Talk no Jutsu powers is very effective in this "fumbling arc" 😏

[@thatoneblackdude3333]

@@meawiyaothman7872 I was so God Damn disappointed in Armin he had so much promise before the timeskip and then Ishyama fucked his entire character

[@rajpandey5901]

He is the fuking 'HE-RO' .

[@jadaisborn4604]

so the answer for everything is basically “idk lol” 💀

[@rickchakraborty2087]

Only the founder Ymir knows

[@deuce5546]

Bruh this was even worse than Gantz's answers.

[@leaflenster7340]

"Does no one find this fucking disturbing?" Frankly I found the part where Ymir SMILED at Mikasa holding the head of a decapitated man very disturbing. I love this series overall and all of the effort Isayama put into it, but this ending is just a disaster, confusing, senseless and disturbing. Ymir also just wanting to see if someone would kill the person they love just so she could play out her "I wish I killed him" fantasy is just atrocious. Like... it basically means the entire reason Eren did what he did was... so Ymir could... watch him be killed? All that tells me is Ymir took two people, someone in love and the person she loved, and made the person she loved do this that and the other thing to test her loyalty just to see if she'd kill him... and that if she did, Ymir would get to "live her fantasy"? And then she just... smiles all happy that she ruined all these lives just to live out her happy little "I wish I killed him" fantasy? If you ask me that makes it sound like the whole "there is no villain" is incorrect, because it makes me view Ymir as a villain. She toyed with people's lived just to have her happy ending. She had her chess piece commit genocide and ruin all those lives so she could be selfish and be free. Eren's existing character up until that point was basically wiped out because he ended up her pawn, and like... we're supposed to see Ymir in a good light? We're supposed to feel uwu bad for her because she used to be a slave who for some reason fell in love with her enslaver and forced her to have his kids? Being a slave doesn't justify her enslaving someone to play out a role so that she can fulfill her little fantasy, and it also doesn't paint slaves themselves in a good light. I understand that may been a huge oversight by Isayama and that he probably didn't mean harm or anything like that, but my takeaway from all of this is that even though yeah, King Fritz is a villain, Ymir also became a villain and was the main villain of the entire story because of what she did. And again, the way she SMILES after all is said and done, after supposedly 80 percent of the world was destroyed and she's /watching a woman hold a man's decapitated head/, is just disturbing to me. You could argue that Eren was manipulated by her all along because if she was manipulating future Eren who was manipulating the past/past Eren to eventually enact what would lead to Ymir's goal, that would mean she always had a hold on Eren, but like... I'm supposed to LIKE that ending? Accept that as the ending to this story? It doesn't feel to me like Isayama made Eren the villain, but that Eren was a victim of Ymir, who was the actual villain, and took the fall for her nonsense. Ymir's smile at the end wasn't a sad smile either (still wouldn't be good, but wouldn't be so icky to me). It was just outright, pure happiness. Aside from everything /else/ wrong with the ending (including like... the whole Mikasa bullshit and how Eren should just love her back because she's been willingly committed to him all this time and it's HIS fault if he doesn't love her back, and that you MUST love someone if they commit to you regardless of if that's what you want or not), that entire concept just feels so gross and I'm at the point where I'm just going to happily pretend this ending just never happened lol.

[@JojoSmacks]

I'll read this later. Can you reply to me

[@armannstraughter3296]

@@JojoSmacksHey.

[@aot9199]

THANKKK YOUU

[@nikolakrstic8079]

Ymir is a villain.. she was a victim that became a villain just like Eren just on even a bigger scale than him. She for sure is a villain

[@blackcatbrewz]

EXACTLY! This is my whole issue because like… why does Ymir need to see Mikasa do this to Eren? This implies Eren is like King Fritz even tho he isn’t??! Fritz enslaved Ymir, sexually abused her, used her as a weapon to conquer, etc. Eren MET Mikasa because he freed her from her captors and freed her from a life of enslavement and sexual abuse!!!! Eren never sexually abused mikasa WTF and he never used her as a way to conquer ppl etc like it’s just ?!?!!? Makes no sense. And it makes me mad too in regards to eremika because what a way to shit on their relationship!

[@cinnamunbun]

How did Armin know Eren told Mikasa to forget him when he wasn't in Mikasa's vision?

[@__-dq9ev]

Only Ymir knows that one

[@klmknop]

At this point just go with it lmao

[@th3_ph4ntomreborn31]

Plothole/misstraslation/Araki forgot

[@jemmor3382]

Lol

[@maariyaahmed3608]

Because he can see erens memories

[@mia3033]

Chapter 139 recontextualizes all Eren POVs in the manga. People still think Eren put a damn facade in the majority of the manga? A proper 'plot twist' needs foreshadowing AND buildup but none of it were present. 139 Eren is a retcon, stop the mental gymnastics.

[@milesyoungblood7173]

For the love of god please stop the gymnastics

[@DenisK21]

Eren being controlled by his rage and hate while also being horrified by his own actions to the point that he wants his friends to kill him before chapter 139: perfectly understandable. Eren being controlled by his rage and hate while also being horrified by his own actions to the point that he wants his friends to kill him in chapter 139: apparently out-of-nowhere somehow.

[@deuce5546]

@@DenisK21 Jesse what the fuck are you talking about

[@DenisK21]

@@deuce5546 I'm talking about everyone complaining about a change that never happened.

[@user-qx1id1dt8x]

@@DenisK21 I don't think eren being so horrified he wants his friends to kill him makes sense at all, I can buy the other things, but I'm pretty sure he never wanted to be killed as he stated in his conversation with armin, I think he did know the weight of his actions to some extent but did it anyway because his emotions are so strong he can't get affected by anyone's opinion or rationality. Then he just let them kill him because he himself set them free, if it was their decision to stop him, so be it, he can't harm the friends he so much wished to live long lives

[@RobertBrown-kw4of]

Isayama wanted to make EM canon. If he wanted to he should have give. Us hints in the earlier episodes. And yes agree or not Eren and historia relationship was like wayyy better than EM. Historia is the only charector who he did not rage at, smiles the most at, and they have lot more in common. And I am not an erehisu shipper

[@RobertBrown-kw4of]

And yes I am not an cringey shipper

[@RobertBrown-kw4of]

One thing I noticed is that mikasa wanted to protect eren, eren wanted to protect historia in aot caring is love I think

[@RobertBrown-kw4of]

I don't know what kind of weed isayama was smoking while eren was simping

[@__-dq9ev]

@@RobertBrown-kw4of Historia saved Eren vise versa. Their feelings are mutual. What does Mikasa have special with Eren?

[@thatoneblackdude3333]

@@__-dq9ev the scarf it trumps all

[@ndeididjfhrhhe7786]

there’s no way isayama didn’t change the ending i’m sure eren x historia was supposed to be a thing but he changed it to a fan service ending to make them eren x mikasa shipper happy because what was the point of historia being introduced pregnant at the beginning of season 4, it was never confirmed who the father is but there were so many hints that it’s eren, or for example when zeke told eren mikasa loves him why did he think of historia there and not mikasa? why would isayama add that if it meant nothing. historia is still my favourite aot character but what was the point of her character in season 4? all the parallels with ymir fritz for nothing?? and her relationship with eren? why did eren even tell historia about his “plan” it makes no sense, i’m not even rlly a erehisu shipper it’s just what makes more sense to the plot like for example ymir being reborn as historias baby and finally being free all of these theory’s were better then whatever the fuck this ending was and the fact historia is a side character doesn’t excuse how she was sidelined in season 4 she was literally one of the best and most important characters

[@nah2685]

He didn't even tell her his real plan ??? Why would he lie to her he made her the new karl fritz while his friends even warriors are the heros now meanwhile historia has to bear all his sins and why ? Why did he have to do that to her when she is the person who never hurted him she even saved him she was the one who understand his plan and stood by his side just to him end up using her like for no reason at all ? That doesn't make sense even if he dont like her or she is irrelevant in his life ( which isn't true she was the last one he talk about in his pov before post timeskip ) why would he do something awful like that letting her be with a irrelevant bully for his plan ? Cant believe people defending this just because they dont like erehisu ??

[@ndeididjfhrhhe7786]

@@adamrosewood8561 agree! eren was literally my fav character but 139 made me hate him also there were so many hints for erehisu that could definitely be interpreted as romantic for example how historia called both ymir and eren her allies and eren and historias conversations in general but all that was for nothing ig

[@adamrosewood8561]

@@ndeididjfhrhhe7786 I don’t even know anymore like all these parallels with Ymir and Historia/ Devil and Eren I just I don’t even know i have no words.

[@ndeididjfhrhhe7786]

@@adamrosewood8561 it was all for nothing and i wasted so much time thinking about theory’s😭

[@mn3ko]

Adam Rosewood Same. I was a nonshipper but EH fits the theme of surpassing the father.

[@maeneae]

how can people defend this ending :/

[@rachichi4092]

Because their ship sailed.

[@luxeternity]

EMtards and half of peace ending stans

[@ayesha_h]

One would think that EM stans would really hate this ending cause it ruined their two most favorite characters' arcs...

[@user-fp6zc7fx6y]

Zasshu

[@Aswar211]

@@rachichi4092 but even that didnt happen like they never even kissed(apart from,you know) or confessed to each other i dont know how even shippers could be happy with this.

[@islandboy9381]

"B-but he's just a emotional 19 year old ofc he wouldn't be able to comprehend what he was doing at that age and get carried away" he was fucking 8 years old when he conciously tricked and stabbed an adult in the throat and could fully explain why he did it to his father

[@Tazq8p]

Naruto was 17 years old in the Fourth Great Ninja War, he literally saved the hole humanity 😐

[@mikeantony252]

@@Tazq8p Obito was 14 when he unleashed the kyuubi

[@shindj2382]

Wasn’t Light 18 when he killed L?

[@reinhardt3090]

@@shindj2382 Light was a genius at the top of his whole school and got a proper education and upbringing. Eren was uneducated and traumatized from a young age. both were a bit insane from the start though.

[@reinhardt3090]

@@Tazq8p How is that comparable?

[@peagames2002]

I just don't get it... how Armin knew Eren said "Forget about me" to Mikasa? He wasn't in that dream, and their convo is happening much earlier than the dream with Mikasa. This whole episode had more plotholes than a pin cushion.

[@milesyoungblood7173]

Path magic. Only Ymir knows. Etc. Etc.

[@lxfj2128]

It’s so so bad I’m still in pain. It literally ruined the character themes journey. Show . Credit to u to have the balls to admit aot was dogshit unlike some of the fandom

[@freddyrodriguez8769]

Eren had the best talk no jutsu. He gathered everyone's sympathy.

[@meawiyaothman7872]

True they even come to his anniversary to his attempt to kill humanity outside the wall, isn’t that nice?

[@rikudou947]

It's not even worthy of being called Talk no jutsu, at least when Naruto did it it was actually well written and convincing.

[@fr0ck360]

What about armin?

[@albertjackson9553]

Am I the only one that has a problem that armin is considered the savior and takes all the credit even tho he barely did anything in this arc and mikasa was the one who got rid of Titans and kill eren just me ok

[@nah2685]

This ending is the perfect armin happy ending he is traveling around the world getting the hero treatment that he absolutely dont deserve he is also the peace group leader when reiner jean , peick exist ..... He even got himself a girlfriend . No wonder he is soo grateful rumbling happened

[@ayesha_h]

You are wrong. Armin did use his talk no jutsu ability to save everyone and is now on his way to sign a peace treaty with yeagerists whose leader he supposedly killed lol🙄

[@Bakergirl86]

Nope, that was infuriating that Armin gets all the damn credit, when Mikasa did the damn work, I hate Armin!😑😑😑

[@TheYoungGeninSasuke]

I hate Mikasa so I don't give a fuck if she killed Eren and or got no credit.

[@ghoulage]

What I love is when Armin says 'We need to tell them the truth' and that so-called truth is gonna start with 'Armin killed Eren' pffff ok

[@arminarlert7273]

Marco is literally the reason Jean is even there and joined the scouts in the first place. And Isayama totally forgot about him lol.

[@annett5]

After the rumbling started jean should've stayed on the island and show his leadership skills to help innocent people and help historia rule

[@biggamer7245]

If Isayama forgot about Marco as you say then why did he beat up Reiner when they were sitting around the fire, it was because that is how Jean acted after finding out that Reiner, Annie and Bertholdth were responsible for Marco’s death.

[@arminarlert7273]

@biggamer7245 Yeah, but wouldn't it have been fitting for him to appear again like Sasha? He wasn't even mentioned and only used as a plot device.

[@biggamer7245]

@@arminarlert7273 Yea, maybe he should have, I personally am one of the people that had wanted him to because he has always been an important character in my eyes because of his influence on Jean. The criticism you brought up is one of the best criticisms that I have seen, I know that Isayama couldn’t include every single character, but Marco was pretty important. If he did not forget about Marco than maybe he had thought of Marco a character not important enough to be shown, but either way I will take that as him forgetting about Marco considering the fact that there was basically no purpose of not showing Marco. I do feel though that when it comes to things like that that end up getting picked on, it makes us assume that the author forgot his whole story and all of his characters(one of the things I have seen a few people saying), which is something that I don’t believe in the slightest. Others are saying that the ending was retconned, and although I believed that it could have been at first, after looking at the reasonings that people had for the ending being retconned I have come to believe that it wasn’t retconned. Either way I want to thank you for telling me of a pretty good criticism, it is one that I can take seriously and something I feel can’t be overlooked as the author either forgetting about Marco or thinking it wouldn’t be good to include Marco.

[@Archer170]

Nigga I totally forgot about him 😂

[@ythandlename]

Armin: We're not monsters anymore! We can't transform, if we did then don't you think we would've killed you no- Marleyan Soldier: THEY'RE DEFENSELESS NOW! KILL THE ELDIAN DEVILS AND SEIZE THIS MOMENTUM! THEY WILL PAY FOR DESTROYING OUR HOMES! or 139 Marleyan Soldier: Understandable, have a good day.

[@aegonii8471]

On god they acting like Mikasa is gonna kill the rest of the world.

[@kacperthegamer4556]

It was also the same soldier who upon looking at the rumbling said that it's every nations' hatered fault for pushing Eren to this point and if he gains the chance to fix that mistake, he'll take it. Then he immediatly orders his men to turn their guns against Eldians the moment the danger passed

[@user-xx6vy9ri8p]

@@kacperthegamer4556 Did you watch the show? He unloaded his gun into the air and ordered others to stop.

[@grully1326]

Eren killed 80% of the population for peace.. The 80%: 😐

[@WallNutBreaker524]

And in the end, there was no peace. 😂 Paradis and Eldia were destroyed. 🤦‍♂️

[@infinity-8250]

What pisses me off more is that after eren dies Historia tells them all that eren was right yet they all just go be happy and golly, pissed me off to the extreme oh and they're just chilling with the people who literally started the Titans getting in the walls situation

[@Sg6CrossOver]

They just did the Gabi's way, "we didn't see they getting tortured, transformed and dropped", so *we" just turn a blind eye. Reinner decision to break the walls literally killed 250k+ and they're just chilling

[@user-xx6vy9ri8p]

@@Sg6CrossOver Well they killed millions in return, what's your point?

[@southofheck]

You really gotta love how Eren’s buddies are so quick to accept the whole “he became a mass murderer for our sake” deal. Like seconds ago they were throwing their asses out on the line to stop Eren from wiping out 99.5% of humanity. But suddenly it’s cool because he was making himself a Martyr. And nobody questioned it. Not one person was like “dude that’s still a bit fucked up.” It’s even funnier since they all wound up going to war again anyways and humanity got nuked back to the Middle Ages. The ending is basically saying that Eren’s initial plan of a full genocide was the best course of action to preserve the Eldians’ safety.

[@annett5]

The funniest thing about this ending is that some nameless and faceless dude, who has no impact on the plot or other characters and is not even a character himself, gets to become the king of paradis after marrying historia 🤡

[@m.3tamorphos1s]

ong it should've been me

[@thrilla72]

Exactly how it should be. Also he is the guy that Historia knew growing up

[@lordvastor98]

​​​​​​@@thrilla72yeah , who terrorized her and threw rocks at her

[@thrilla72]

@@lordvastor98 Didn't Ymir fall for the man who abused her? It happens in the real world

[@annett5]

​@@thrilla72mfg... historia is NOT Ymir. She unlike fritz refused to live for somebody and became queen on her terms. She got pregnant by her will, ran an orphanage by her will. Marrying the farmer doesn't make any sense not only from the psychological / relationship (or whatever) perspective but also from the narrative one cause one of important characters became a wife of a dude we know nothing about. It's bad writing. So funny to see how the ending defenders buy everything Isayama drew in ch 139: buy the fact he didn't complete his themes, buy Eren's amnesia when it comes to his motivation, buy Armin's out-of-nowhere violence, buy ymir's stupid reason for doing shit, the unexplored lore, Mikasa's sudden importance with no buildup (meanwhile historia and Ymir actually had one), reiss's arc abandonment and so on

[@blackcatbrewz]

Really my whole problem with this ending isn’t the Eremika thing, it’s more the implication that Eremika is supposed to parallel King Fritz and Ymir which… canonically isn’t true??? King Fritz enslaved, r*ped and humiliated Ymir.. Eren literally met Mikasa by FREEING her from her captures who were trying to ENSLAVE her… he also never sexually abused Mikasa, he offered her his home and actually cared about her. King Fritz did none of these things and this is my whole issue with chapter 139, because it acts as if Eren is basically like Fritz or at the very least implies that Ymir didn’t break the curse until she saw Mikasa kill Eren… for some reason. Why did she need to see Mikasa kill Eren?! Why does this empower her to break free from Fritz LMAO like ??!?! Eren is nothing like Fritz??!!?!!!? Makes no sense to me

[@muffmuff3631]

You're goddamn right and one of many reasons why the ending is trash

[@blackcatbrewz]

@@muffmuff3631 exactly and it pisses me off tbh because it basically is such an insult to eren and mikasa’s entire relationship and it also feels like a huge slap in the face to any eremika shipper. Isayama basically strung us along the entire manga giving us subtle hints and crumbs to tease us and then pulled the rug out from under us by creating this horrible implication that the canon didn’t even support at the last second, and that has me more upset than most anything else. The rest of the writing for the ending is questionable, but it feels especially insulting in regards to eremika and how it was handled because these two characters are so important and their whole bond is constantly highlighted throughout the story only for it to be insulted by the ending

[@muffmuff3631]

@@blackcatbrewz Retconned ending. Simple as that. Isayama had an ending in mind when he started this story but I would bet my corpse that it wasn't this one. Isayama is fucked up for putting Eren on the same level as King Fritz to create a Ymir-Mikasa parallel, even more fucked up for ultimately still having Mikasa deeply bonded to Eren, after his death, TIL HER DEATH lmao

[@blackcatbrewz]

@@muffmuff3631 exactly, I agree I think this ending isn’t the original plan. Because nothing about it makes sense, there’s no way it was all supposed to be this weird ymir mikasa parallel that somehow ends everything lol. And right? If Eren is soooo evil to Isayama, then why did he make sure that Mikasa would grieve him for the remainder of her life and then be buried beside him having never moved on? That’s fucked up??? Isn’t that what Ymir did anyway by never moving on from what Fritz did to her? Sorry Isayama but you’re literally never gonna force me to view Eremika as being anything like Ymir and Fritz LMAOOO like idc how much he tries, I refuse to accept that because they were never portrayed even somewhat similarly until the retcon ending. And anyway, the whole idea that Mikasa must kill Eren to appease Ymir is dumb regardless because WHY does she need to see this? Wasn’t Eren somewhat kind toward her and wasn’t he the only person who ever viewed her as a human, rather than a slave or god or anything else? Didn’t he free Ymir when he did this for her? So why does she want to repay his actions by seeing him be literally beheaded by the girl he loves? Wtf 😭😭😭 if anything this just makes me view Ymir as the ultimate villain

[@muffmuff3631]

​@@blackcatbrewz Yeah, Ymir was even a good character... until 139, like saintitchief said, seemingly she created titans for 2000 years cause she needed to see a girl kill the one she loves. evil haha. since that doesn't even make sense, Isayama had to put in "Ymir loved King Fritz" to make it make sense, but it doesn't lol. It's so sad, AOE should have happened but of course the fans who paid attention to the story won't get to win

[@PieceOfCherryCake]

This is so heartbreakingly bad. If someone would have given me the key points of the ending some years ago - Eren dies in order to make the world a better place for his friends, Armin becomes a hero and lives up to Erens words of "saving humanity", Eren admits his feelilngs for Mikasa - I would have been delighted and deemed it a great way to end the series. And then along comes this horrible, horrible execution with OOC-ness, bad dialogue, terrible "romance", retcon and degression.

[@pawnscrib1842]

The whole rumbling arc seems pretty rushed especially near the end it gets me thinking that isayama was just sick of it and wanted to end it asap

[@thatoneblackdude3333]

When you think about it the fumbling arc was sus fork the jump we just didn't want to except it

[@rickchakraborty2087]

This is what happens when u make so much money and lose all interest

[@alejandromaldonado6159]

The last chapter was a massive troll, there's no way he made that ending in good faith. It contradicts the entire story and plot assassinates every character.

[@JinxMaster95]

How do the mindless titans that turn human again have clothes. Lol

[@adrithmanvik1853]

Um aren't the humans who were turned just inside the nape. Just like any other titan shifter. Well at the beginning at least overtime they merge and become one but not for a while.

[@fovnder7355]

Right like that’s not possible

[@cinnamunbun]

Mindless titans becoming naked after turning back into humans hasn't really been consistent in the series. Eren had clothes on after becoming one when he ate Grisha and so did Grisha when he ate Kruger

[@nah2685]

@@cinnamunbun exactly which is still dont make any sense because they are not shifter but their whole body become titan so their clothes should get ripped but ig they can't just make keith finding both eren n grisha naked lol

[@th3_ph4ntomreborn31]

@@nah2685 probably if they stay i inside the titan for a little time the body doesn't absorb at 100% and clothes stay there I mean whit all the problem the ending has this isn't really that big one

[@piyoweb]

Armin.....the one who tried to resolve conflict without violence.....what did he do when he learned of Eren's plan to murder million or billion of people? A: Try to stop his best friend from commiting genecide by convincing Eren peacefully. B: Try to stop Eren by force or at least condemn such plan (not possible in dream, but he could've at least try) C: Suggest something less violence, maybe just declare war on one country instead of the entire world. D. Ask "What about Mikasa?" .........(wtf???)

[@magiv4205]

Ymir: To you, 2000 years from now. Eren: Is for me? Ymir: ¡NOoooOoO! iS fOr MikAsA!!

[@wlweavski]

notice how people who dislike the ending just tell people they dont like it whereas ending copers get genuinely angry and super defensive over opinions

[@Kaika433]

Lol havent you seen people's comments saying that the ending makes their blood boil? Both sides get genuinely angry

[@luxeternity]

Before 139 : man, Ymir had it rough. I hope Eren can free her soul and end the titan curse. After 139 : you Ymir, stay there and be a good slave and pleasure thing for Chad Fritz

[@fr0ck360]

The greatest simp of all time

[@deuce5546]

Remember. All of the suffering and pain in AoT is because of a simp who never got over her abuser.

[@memonson5586]

I don't know how a lot of people are still defending this ending🤦🏻 I understand many people love AOT and don't want to admit is a shitty conclusion. I was okay with the ending at first, but then I opened my mind and realize this ending ruined what could have been one of the greatest manga stories. People need to be honest and stop being idiotic fanboys.

[@mithvibes4727]

yea no , u need to be honest and stop moaning and crying that u didn't get ur headcannon ending 😂 u people didn't understand the true themes of the story and are crying out of straight ignorance lmao it's sad

[@yetanothersimplehumanbeing3245]

46:15 I'm crying bro. Deadass how did Eren connect with birds? We didn't see any birds in Paths when he brought ALL the Eldians there to announce the Rumbling, so they're not linked by blood and it can't be titan shit. He literally just did that because... Like it doesn't make sense. Then, let's assume titan related thing somehow did do it, how the fuck is he a bird AFTER death? When he died the powers ended. Ymir, the worm, Mikasa, Reiner's mom, whoever the fuck, ended the powers. When did Eren have time to just become a bird? Is that what he was doing while he was sleeping? The fuck? Also I agree with you, but don't slander Isayama too hard. I'd bet my life this wasn't his ending. It just goes against almost everything he's said about the entire series ever. Sad way to end this shit fr. Editors and fans cloud people's judgement and we get stuff like this.

[@saintitchief]

this is all under the assumption that this was isayama’s choice. i should’ve pointed it out in the video but of course if this was not his work (which it helps me sleep believing that it wasn’t) then of course none of my words are targeted towards him.

[@Lurker27819]

Two years. So nostalgic. Jeez, time is moving so fast. I’ve gotten over the ending already, but I do miss the community at the time. It was so crazy

[@saintitchief]

come back for our full series rewatch on twitch, 2 weeks before they air season 4 part 4

[@Lurker27819]

@@saintitchief That sounds cool. I'll be there, most likely lurking (:

[@JojoSmacks]

​@@saintitchiefAYO man do this?????

[@peptobismol3949]

why is he a symbol of freedom when in the end we are told he was never free at all, and doesn't even know why he did those things lmaoo

[@beastcannon]

Let's not also forget the war hammer titan was completely useless

[@v4n113]

he would've died against porco and renier so not exactly

[@annett5]

@@v4n113 nah, he needed it only once against them. Destroying almost the whole city just for taking the titan away and 5-minute usage of it is bullshit

[@user-xx6vy9ri8p]

@@annett5 He also used his abilities to escape the prison and hide himself and Zeke in the Founder.

[@Qbedrivin]

"They probably did not want to die part" BROOOO THAT PART GOT ME SO HEATED!

[@yusoufhakim3429]

80 percent of the world? more like 80 percent of your fanbase

[@alexvaughan1013]

The part where Armin tells Eren off for hurting Mikasa's feelings would've been 10,000x better like so. Instead of crying about Mikasa finding another man, Eren cries about how much it destroyed him to push his two dearest friends away.

[@JojoSmacks]

Eren: I DIDNT KNOW HOW TO KEEP IT ALL ARMIN. I COULDNT SAVE EVERYONE. IM SORRY *CRIES LIKE BABY* I'm hacksayama now

[@thatoneblackdude3333]

My man is back at it again to roasting the final chapter a second time also nah bruh I loved the energy from the first one it really showed how much bullshit this chapter was

[@__-dq9ev]

The first one reached me on a spiritual level

[@thatoneblackdude3333]

@@__-dq9ev same

[@sungod9797]

One thing I just noticed: this whole time, protagonists in this series used the sunk cost fallacy (I.e. “we already sacrificed so much so why waste whatever we already lost”) to justify actions. But now that Eren was willing to kill 80% of the world’s population (hundreds of millions or likely over a billion people, depending on exactly how long ago this takes place)... he’s not willing to say “I already killed so many, why stop now? I have to finish what I started.” Like seriously this is the character whose main motto is to never stop moving forward until all his enemies are completely destroyed and removed from the earth. But then he stops short of his final plan in his final moments. He talked down to Reiner for being half-assed in his conviction, but is doing the same thing himself. Granted there’s a panel in one of the last chapters when Eren acknowledges he’s even worse than Reiner, but that’s not the same context. Besides, if you leave 20% of the world alive (more than enough people to be able to take revenge... and in the relatively short term future too), all those lives you killed were actually genuinely wasted for nothing. Your goal of protecting the island would fall short, but you’d still have the moral stain of killing almost as many people as if you had just finished your goddamn plan. Wtf is this ending. The extra chapters version that Isayama released have an even worse ending. It shows for a fact that Paradis will eventually get bombed completely into the ground, confirming that Eren failed in his goal simply due to stopping at 80%. Plus, it implies with the tree and the child that the cycle of titans being created will happen all over again, which means he also failed at his second goal of ridding the world of titans. Garbage writing all around.

[@CATDHD]

Don't forget his stupid 3d motivation - to have his friends lead a happy long life. It's very optimistic considering they will live in fascist Paradise after a mass genocide of the rest of the world. How can one overcome this? DId they get desensitized after so much hardship they had been through?

[@deuce5546]

Here waiting for the usual "Eren is a hypocrite he's a realistic interpretation of what a person would do in his place that's why his behavior is inconsistent" just like how they justify shit like Ymir. Also, really hated the bit with the tree and the child, I fucking hate "and a new story will begin" endings with a passion, and before AoT ended I tended to joke about how AoT would end implying the beginning would come again, but I didn't expect for something like this to happen.

[@sumukhsai2097]

I first saw the alliance in the show and made me super annoyed that they were doing this avengers bullshit with the save the world crap. When I read the rest of the shit in the manga, they confirmed my worst fears. They actually made this into a Marvel movie, with the insane alliance plot armour, etc. They bloody made my boy eren into a discount thanos. What the hell does 80% do??? Most of those left were from marley. Like he didn't even achieve full revenge on Marley. Sure as hell didn't save Paradis. All of this political drama finally boiled down to seeing wheter Mikasa could kill eren. It sure as hell was obvious Armins magical Talk no Jutsu skills wouldn't hold up for long. Like Paradis was like 1% of the world population. Eren left 20% bitter population alive and the most fun part, he took away the power of titans just like Thanos did with the stones. It was literally their biggest defence against enemies. The best part is he took them away only till Paradis was eliminated totally and then the titan tree was back. At least before all this Eren was a piece of shit i could root for. One of those rare villains like Walter white where you get attached to them. The ending just made him into an absolute idiot who i now hate.

[@KARINA29534]

I'm convinced Isayama was either drunk or high when he wrote this garbage ass ending and you can't convince me otherwise. I just couldn't believe what I was reading man, Eren killing 80% of humanity, achieving absolutely nothing and then becoming a bird at the end? Like seriously? 😑 we aren't exaggerating when we say that this shit was beyond terrible

[@parkourmaster7610]

bro if eren controlled dina to kill his mom, why couldn’t he control berthold and reiner when they were breaking the wall? and why not let dina kill berthold cuz bruh she was a part of the eldian restoration group and they woulda had a colossal titan with royal blood!!! also if he can control titans through time then all the fucking deaths and casualties of his soldiers, friends, families, pretty much all eldians were POINTLESS!!!

[@hehe-ok3pj]

I was about to write the exact same comment! Everyone died for “i don’t know” lol. Erwin’s charge, Hange’s sacrifice, Sasha’s death was just Eren clowning

[@v4n113]

because he needed everything to be the way it was so he could save his freinds and give them freedom why cant yall get that. if he changed things that drastically there's no telling how much worse he could've made the timeline

[@parkourmaster7610]

@@v4n113 those r just ur speculations and from a logical standpoint his plan was garbage even from the start

[@v4n113]

@@parkourmaster7610 no it would be speculation to assume changing time that drastically would have made things better. Eren knew the safest way was to continue with his plan

[@v4n113]

@Solange Parker for his people that is. Which is al he cares about because he belives all the people on the outside are monsters which is understandable

[@DavidsonJBJ]

Worst ending I could have ever imagined, I hate to hate on it, but the last chapters were so dissapointing to me.

[@rachichi4092]

This dude called every single panel garbage/ trash I wanted to say Thank you sir. Now, i can rest because i thought i was just being a whiny bitch. This could be an average ending for another anime, but because it's aot it's a piece of shit. Issayama either lost sight of how he wanted to close this story or he was sick & tired of this manga so he decided to write "whatever" to get this shit over with. ( I liked the scene were Levi did the salute for the last time).

[@meawiyaothman7872]

137-139 ruined the manga in the retrospective

[@kabir8297]

If Armin could really negotiate with them, then why didn't they send Armin to negotiate when they all got to Marley to negotiate..😂 cause all of them saw, negotiating isn't an option, so why do that in the end of the story??

[@annett5]

Only ym...

[@demdil76]

Reiner and Annie should be in prison for war crimes

[@nochettally3316]

After reading the manga ending, to me it all boils down to why armin was chosen over Erwin, seeing how armin was practically useless and didn’t even attempt convincing eren to change his mind or talk to him about why he acted the way he did, being content with eren’s “I don’t know” and “only Ymir knows” answers. Like boi, you had one job and that was to use your talk no jutsu but you didn’t even TRY. Isn’t that your implied role?? To be a pacifist and see the good in people? Anw, I know I’m a huge Erwin simp, but still setting aside all my loyalty to Erwin and looking at it in a logical way, Erwin was definitely the better choice. Initially I came to terms with the fact that probably armin would undergo a huge character development and play a vital role at the later half, but seeing that he basically just existed to be part of that one attack on marley, and be Annie’s boo, it just brings back all the exasperation and disappointment I had at the beginning when they chose armin over Erwin. And don’t come at me with the “oh Erwin solely existed to find out what was in the basement and that’s it, he would have just given up beyond that” crap. In the conversation w Levi before they left, he clearly states that he will exterminate the threat, after they find out the identity of the threat (by discovering the secrets in the basement), so it makes no sense to me why people even bring that argument up. Also going by that same Logic, we can say armin would give up all his will to continue and forge onwards towards a bigger goal, as soon as he sees the ocean/sea, which was basically his driving force his whole life. Well whatever it is, the point is I just think Erwin would have added more thrill To the story, also can you imagine people’s reaction if ishiyama went against the traditional shonen arc, where friends of the mc have plot armours thicker than Kim k’s ass and made the choice to pick Erwin. I think it would have been just refreshing and interesting to see someone completely shock us with non conventional story twists. Also Erwin as the colossal Titan would just be amazing to say the least and I would have loved for that story aspect to be explored further and how it would have changed the dynamics and outcome of the story, but sadly all we got by them choosing armin is colossal pain and disappointment. My god, the ending of this manga was just a bummer.

[@saintitchief]

agree 100%. Armin video should be out by next week I think you'll love it

[@aryanbhola3046]

Commander Erwin would have ended the whole manga in 5 chapters. We needed Erwins Strategic and leading skills so badly in season 4😭. That's why I consider se as the end of AOT. Shinzou wo Sasegyo!!

[@aegonii8471]

@@aryanbhola3046 After Erwin visited the outside world and saw how much the rest of the world hated Eldians he would’ve for sure used the colossal Titan nuke in the middle of Liberia.

[@nekozombie]

@@aegonii8471 then I don't think you truly understand Erwin's character.

[@tesstinggnw1822]

yeah i was an armin simp and no matter how stupid i thought the choice was, i did not care because i just liked armin a lot. but he disappointed the shit outta me post time skip, like he was ridiculously useless and nobody ever said anything. id rather he die a hero than devolve into this bs atp. erwin shoulda got the shot 😪

[@DrJay-iy8rv]

Yo when you think about it tho this whole first part of this ch is out of context Eren breaks down says he’s bout to die like it’s the end ch but this whole conversation takes place before The Alliance even reaches him. They haven’t even gotten on the plane yet.

[@__-dq9ev]

I think it's because he can see the future or some other paths shit.

[@nah2685]

@@__-dq9ev but still tell armin he didn't know if they are going to survive or not ....

[@jemmor3382]

The more I think about it, the less sense it makes

[@rickchakraborty2087]

Lmao wtf now this is more messed up 😂

[@v4n113]

eren can literally see into the future lol

[@PeanutButter281]

you know, if i remember correctly one of erens conversations with falco was something along the lines of "only those who are willing to die should fight/go to war". and then in this chapter he whines about not wanting to die right after killing 80%. wtf. You know what really fucks me up about peoples reaction to this ending? the fact that the people who where on erens side are MORE upset about armin thanking eren for killing people then the people who where against eren. like htf does that even calculate right?

[@sungod9797]

Because Eren killing everyone was one logical conclusion to his character, whereas Armin wasn’t an angry revenge-fueled person. Someone can believe Armin shouldn’t thank him, even if they’re personally on the side of Eren’s plan.

[@mhmm4553]

56:47 "So remember when I make you felt guilty for the death of my mom? It was actually me Reiner, I killed my own mom"

[@dantdmfangamingrich9802]

Armin: Why did you kill everyone Eren: idk Armin: Understandable have a great day

[@nausheensiddiqui8745]

It's like a complete different person wrote 139

[@rachelbergen6444]

29:10 “All those people probably didn’t want to die” had me DYING. Eren: LMAO maybe they wanted to idk 🤷

[@canyouseeanything8010]

Even now some intellectual folks were saying 80% was strategically good lmaoo

[@fr0ck360]

Kinda ironic that Isayama became eremika shippers’ slave after writing a good storyline about betrayal, freedom and slavery

[@annett5]

1. Why did the Yeagerists allow mikasa to return to the island and stay there after killing their leader? The same goes with kiyomi and her people 2. "Ymir saw herself in mikasa, that's why she refused her power when mikasa killed the one she loved". Um, couldn't fritz find someone else for 2000 years? Mikasa is the only one who had a lover and managed to assassinate him? The only person among millions? 3. If the female titan can get any power from any shifter after just biting him/her, then why the hell didn't she get one from Eren? In the forest, she bit off the attack titan's neck to take eren to marley. Why ftgs didn't she possess the ability to see the future? 4. Why does historia protect Jean's and Connie's families in ch 139 if she supported the rumbling? 5. If eren knew he would die, then why didn't he know the result of Mikasa's decision? Isn't it a contradiction? 6. Where is yelena in the last chapter? 7. How tf could mikasa hide from the marleyans and get back to paradis? 8. Why could eren sacrifice sasha, floch and hange for the rest of his friends but not historia (1 person) for sasha, mikasa, armin, jean, levi, hange, connie and floch? 9. How did king fritz know about the way of passing titan powers? 10. Why were 9 titans formed from the founder? 11. Why did eren even take the war hammer away? For a 5-minute fight against porco and reiner and for breaking out of jail? He attacked the city and killed so many people only for THIS? 12. How can yeager turn into the colossal titan? 13. Why and how does falco's titan change its form and nature? 14. Why does levi want to kill zeke, who murdered his comrades, but not annie, who murdered his comrades? Why is she even alive in the end? What kind of logic is this? 15. If eren can manipulate titans through the past, why didn't he make his colossal titans leave hange alone? You wanna say, he can in the past but not in the present? 16. Why do the Yeagerists let historia do whatever she wants (to remain the queen, to protect her friends' families, to host armin and the rest)? Don't they have power on the island? Who even is on Historia's side, so she's still the ruler? These are the questions I could recall. There are even more

[@rak2995]

I'm sorry, I'm not a native speaker. 3. Here, most likely, the same thing is meant as Rice's jar. 4. Most likely, because they are not guilty of the sins of their children. 6. Most likely she was shot, but then why is Kiyomi in Paradise? 7. Not so. How could Mikasa walk across a scorched continent, swim across a bay without a ship, carrying a decaying head with her? 9. Most likely opened by accident. 11. It's just a nice bonus for destroying the fleet. 16. Hisa is already a Yegherist, there is no reason to overthrow her.

[@JojoSmacks]

3. The attack Titan doesn't have power. That power originates from the Eren who resides in paths. The attack Titan is more equivalent to a regular titan with human cognition

[@JojoSmacks]

5. Eren said he knew the results of her choice which is why he moved forward right?? Which is why he wondered what she would do. Which is still stupid since he knows he dies

[@JojoSmacks]

6. Yelena rode a dolphin back to paradise.... 😁 😊

[@JojoSmacks]

7. The bigger question is how did she get back. Without him being the father. It's just weird favoritism not explained. Hacksayama

[@yeicore]

Also Tom Xaver stated that Eldians are like an extension of the founder titan and Ymir. So, if Ymir is gone, shouldn't all Eldians die with her? If not, why?

[@ruben4257]

Only Ymir knows

[@tinienteabanil2922]

Because lazy writing

[@reinhardt3090]

Why should they die? Why not just become disconnected? Where is the implication that they should die? you are just looking for shit to complain about even when it makes no sense.

[@aryanbhola3046]

For me this manga ended in SE when Erwin died and Armin was revived. Shinzou wo Sasegyo!!, Commander Erwin Smith. A true and deserving leader.

[@ayesha_h]

Its been 3 weeks and I'm still pissed at the ending

[@keytra6291]

It’s been four months and I’m still angry every time I remember this dumpster fire

[@shakeriacantrell44]

Speaking of which Where's Yelena?🤣

[@klmknop]

Only Ymir knows

[@shakeriacantrell44]

@@klmknop 🤣🤣🤣😂😂 that was classic 👌

[@ayesha_h]

'Isayama kind of forgot'

[@shakeriacantrell44]

@@ayesha_h 😂😂🤣 how can the baddest sexy Yelena be forgotten like that🙂 after reading Chapter 137-139 it gave me nightmares

[@ayesha_h]

@@shakeriacantrell44 I legit got nightmares, now I have insomnia and I'm not able to sleep since the past 3 weeks. This ending was painful for me.

[@maeneae]

here from isayamas leaked interview, he admitted he wasn't good enough for the themes portrayed plus the ending was changed (twice I think I'm not sure), and the editor did have something to do with it

[@ayesha_h]

He gave an interview? Do you have link or source?

[@dorkknight7225]

@@ayesha_h it was a leak by zekken. You can 100% trust the leak

[@ayesha_h]

So isayama admitted the ending sucked? Now the fans should shut up about how perfect the ending was.

[@maeneae]

@@ayesha_h www.reddit.com/r/yeagerbomb/comments/n1vgnj/isayama_admitted_in_the_latest_interview_that_the/?

[@ayesha_h]

@@maeneae honestly, this makes me even more sad.

[@candypietravels]

So sad the ending was rushed and not fully flushed out that's why what they said it was going to end soon I'm like there's still so much more we need to know why rush it, let's finish it right

[@meawiyaothman7872]

It’s not just rushed, the whole idea with mikasas Choice was stupid just as 137 and 138

[@candypietravels]

@@meawiyaothman7872 maybe he had a different ending insight but the editors made him change his story

[@oneandonly8746]

@@meawiyaothman7872 This is why Pieck is the best girl rather than Mikasa

[@jaegeristss_]

Honestly this ending would have been better if everyone just died. But no. We got this excuse of an ending.

[@WeekendWarrior1]

That Armin handshake really rubbed me the wrong way. You became a mass murderer for our sake" Isayama really wrote that lmfao

[@v4n113]

it'll probably sound better in the anime because there's no such thing as tone in manga

[@deuce5546]

@@v4n113 Apparently you can't convey emotions through facial expressions.

[@TheEmperorRaidou]

@@v4n113 you gonna answer his question?

[@Sm64wii]

I love how the replies to people saying the ending is bad are filled with people saying YOU DIDNT UNDERSTAND THE STORY!!!!!, but I cant find one comment here saying that cause they know they got proven wrong lmao