Every Starter Pokemon Signature Move Ranked Worst to Best

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@JPRPokeTrainer98
@JPRPokeTrainer98 4 ай бұрын
ITS JPR FRIDAY
@wikiuser92
@wikiuser92 4 ай бұрын
My favorite day of the week! I'm not sure, but I think the visuals and audio got a bit de-synced during the S-tier segment.
@Vandalieu
@Vandalieu 4 ай бұрын
Where would court change for Cinderace rank? It's a signature move for it.
@TheShadow1347
@TheShadow1347 4 ай бұрын
7:37 Speaking of Incineroar, I think it might have one of the hardest starter Pokemon raids in Scarlet and Violet
@MnwklrGlx
@MnwklrGlx 4 ай бұрын
Where is Mat Block
@TheTakato122
@TheTakato122 4 ай бұрын
You forgot Court Change, Mat Block and Skull Bash.
@njivwathomassilavwe2056
@njivwathomassilavwe2056 4 ай бұрын
The day torch song is put on other Pokemon is the day competitive weaps
@DigiRangerScott
@DigiRangerScott 4 ай бұрын
Weap what they swow😂
@Castersvarog
@Castersvarog 4 ай бұрын
I’d also add Triple Arrows to that, that move is disgustingly good. Focus energy, a 50% defense drop _and_ a flinch chance all in one? That could get so much use on a mon, close combat be damned
@DigiRangerScott
@DigiRangerScott 4 ай бұрын
@dhsheb Do you have evidence of your claims?
@gnarledcox
@gnarledcox 4 ай бұрын
I would like it on Exploud, just a kind of random mon who wouldn't destroy the universe. Like when Cacturne got spiky shield, it just sorta made a bad Pokémon less bland AND bad Or... give it to Primarina because liquid voice and watch people lose their minds
@calebehhh-jx7ic
@calebehhh-jx7ic 4 ай бұрын
Until gen 9 powercreep attacks.
@LuDogg805
@LuDogg805 4 ай бұрын
Things you missed: - Pyro Ball also doesn't make contact so you don't have to worry about contact abilities. - Torch Song is also sound so it goes through Substitute. - Flower Trick doesn't make contact and also doesn't miss.
@TheRymHero
@TheRymHero 4 ай бұрын
Also the fact that Sparkling Aria and Surf are equally as strong. They're both 90 base power. Surf got nerfed from 95 to 90 in Gen 6
@Estra_Estra
@Estra_Estra 4 ай бұрын
@@TheRymHero Though for some reason Surf does have more PP.
@aristotelesemblem2506
@aristotelesemblem2506 4 ай бұрын
But Surf is just a neutral move without your opponent going Dive
@ernestomoreno4409
@ernestomoreno4409 3 ай бұрын
Just learned that sound moves hit through substitute. Thanks!
@LuDogg805
@LuDogg805 3 ай бұрын
@@ernestomoreno4409 Other interesting mechanics the game doesn't tell you: - Poison types will never miss Toxic, and will hit through Fly and Dig. - Ghost types can always flea a wild battle. - Emergency Exit will not switch Golisopod out if hit by a Pokemon with Sheer Force hold a Life Orb... and will not switch out by the effects of Substitute, Curse and Pain Split - Gravity not only Grounds ALL Pokemon on the filed, accuracy is increased by 34% for all Pokemon moves, excluding OHKO moves. - Grassy Terrain reduces the power of Earthquake and Earth Power - Hypnosis is the only Psychic move that will land on Dark types - A lot of moves have certain interactions with others: Minimized Pokemon take more damage from Stomp Dive Pokemon take more damage from Surf Defense Curl increases damage of Roll Out And many, many more hidden mechanics like that.
@Quipen248
@Quipen248 4 ай бұрын
You forgot the fact that Snipe Shot ignores moves like “Follow Me” and “Rage Powder”. So it’s more useful than its critical hit ratio.
@laterferaligatr2947
@laterferaligatr2947 4 ай бұрын
Snipe shot also ignores Storm Drain in doubles
@IAmGalaxian-bi6co
@IAmGalaxian-bi6co 3 ай бұрын
Damn really? If that was on a Pokémon that was better than Inteleon that could be kinda broken
@dominquedoty458
@dominquedoty458 3 ай бұрын
Should have been a B tier. Since it is decently useful.
@HoennMaster
@HoennMaster 4 ай бұрын
I’m pretty sure we all ran Leaf Blade, Blaze Kick, and Volt Tackle back in the day because the anime made them look so cool. We all remember watching that Charizard vs Blaziken fight and thinking Blaze Kick was awesome.
@exeggutivejudge3747
@exeggutivejudge3747 4 ай бұрын
Blaze Kick WAS/IS AWESOME, still a great alternative of ypu don't wanna deal with the Flare Blitz recoil
@F14thunderhawk
@F14thunderhawk 4 ай бұрын
tbf pikachu is a physical attacker, its just that pikachu's movepool has never actually been fully available to it. Double Team - Volt Tackle - Meteor Mash - Flying Press is the best coverage any pokemon in all of pokemon got Pre-Gen-9 giving us Pawmot and Iron Hands who can get Electric, Fighting, ice, and Ground simultaneously.
@Imslowasfboi
@Imslowasfboi 4 ай бұрын
Dude, memory unlock
@zexalbrony4799
@zexalbrony4799 4 ай бұрын
I know I did on my Sceptile back in Ruby, and I tried to give my Pikachu in Pearl Iron Tail to make it like Ash's.
@tomato2517
@tomato2517 4 ай бұрын
grovyle was so dope and i loved seeing him use leaf blade, shame it sucks for him now
@ryza_hd
@ryza_hd 4 ай бұрын
It feels weird to realize Emboar's technically the only gen 5 starter that got a signature move
@harutosoma7186
@harutosoma7186 4 ай бұрын
I always thought Razor Shell was OG Samurott's signature move...
@ryza_hd
@ryza_hd 4 ай бұрын
@@harutosoma7186 It would have been if they didn't give it to Shellder at the same time
@harutosoma7186
@harutosoma7186 4 ай бұрын
@@ryza_hd Shelder my detested
@DanifromDani
@DanifromDani 4 ай бұрын
Samurott had razor shell and serperior had leaf tornado
@MaahirMomtaz12
@MaahirMomtaz12 4 ай бұрын
​@@DanifromDaniThose two moves were on other Pokémon in Gen 5
@Real21Gamer
@Real21Gamer 4 ай бұрын
Forgot Court Change, which is my favourite move of all time. This move would change singles forever, if it was distributed to other mons. Although it doenst fit Cinderace well, its still used and pairs well with its most common item - heavy duty boots. Definitly my number 1 pick, the utility is just unmatched.
@exeggutivejudge3747
@exeggutivejudge3747 4 ай бұрын
I think it fits with the theme of Cinderace being a soccer player and all
@Real21Gamer
@Real21Gamer 4 ай бұрын
@@exeggutivejudge3747 it fits Cinderace's theme, but gameplay wise... not too well. Give this move to a wall/bulky pivot and its even better.
@antoniopriego5660
@antoniopriego5660 4 ай бұрын
Yeah and Mat Block. He forgot double signature moves
@Bitchmadeshay
@Bitchmadeshay 4 ай бұрын
Same goes for mat block for greninja, a protect that shields both you and your team mates with the only downsides being a. Greninja is mostly offensive And b. There's no priority on this move
@sivara750
@sivara750 4 ай бұрын
agree, i used to run a support cinderace in sv ou and court change was super useful
@venrosonitas
@venrosonitas 4 ай бұрын
"Hisuian Decidueye is a pretty bad Pokémon competitively." Reg H: im about to ruin this mans whole career
@bulborb8756
@bulborb8756 4 ай бұрын
the only reason it's bad is simple due to 2 things: bad defensive typing and that it's slower then regular decidueye who was already slow
@rockowlgamer631
@rockowlgamer631 4 ай бұрын
@@bulborb8756 The one thing that irks me is when GF makes pokemon mixed attackers who are slow..........also most of the time mixed attackers prefer using either Physical or special for maximum potential damage output so why bother do a mixed attacker? Change the 100 special attack Decidueye and trade it with it's 70 speed, at least then it would be better.
@MaahirMomtaz12
@MaahirMomtaz12 4 ай бұрын
​@@rockowlgamer631Then you gut its special sets because special Decidueye gets used
@MaahirMomtaz12
@MaahirMomtaz12 4 ай бұрын
​@@bulborb8756It screws over Gholdengo and Palafin which makes its shortfalls irrelevant
@thanib7796
@thanib7796 4 ай бұрын
@@rockowlgamer631 I'll never understand why GF decided to make BOTH Decidueye forms slow. In Gen 7, Primarina and Incineroar were already slow special and physical attackers respectively. Decidueye being an archer should have been faster and more physically focused. If they wanted it to be a mixed attacker, just trade its defenses and put the points into speed.
@typemasters2871
@typemasters2871 4 ай бұрын
Some changes that I think might be interesting -Heat Crash being fire type body press, higher damage the higher the defence stat -If Snipe Shot is to stay an Intellion exclusive then it should always critical hit like Meowscarada’s Signature Move -If Aqua Step was on more Pokemon then it would be treated like the water type equivalent of Flame Charge and Trail Blaze
@singingcrow439
@singingcrow439 4 ай бұрын
I do feel you should have mention Quaquaval's hidden ability Moxie effectively turning aqua step into an attacking dragon dance. Its requires Quaquaval to get a ko, which is restricted by Aqua step's 80 base power, but it can still potentially make Quaquaval unstoppable once an opponents team is weakened.
@TheCorey1734
@TheCorey1734 4 ай бұрын
Aqua Step could be good for several Pokémon. Also, it could give Hitmonlee a water type “kicking” move.
@MaahirMomtaz12
@MaahirMomtaz12 4 ай бұрын
Unburden Hitmonlee with Aqua Step 😮
@user-fz9vk4js5l
@user-fz9vk4js5l 4 ай бұрын
@@MaahirMomtaz12 Would be overkill. Nothing is really outspeeding unburden lee anyway
@sinnohperson8813
@sinnohperson8813 4 ай бұрын
Aqua step + Moxie is fun . Just hard to use
@miikaroos3809
@miikaroos3809 4 ай бұрын
​@@sinnohperson8813 It's not that hard to use. I've swept many battles with it.
@sinnohperson8813
@sinnohperson8813 4 ай бұрын
@@miikaroos3809 hard in doubles is what I meant
@daylimp2961
@daylimp2961 4 ай бұрын
Can wait for Gen 10 When Flower trick and Torch song will be no longer signature moves and see how competitive will be blown forever
@theamazingspooderman2697
@theamazingspooderman2697 4 ай бұрын
which mons do you think would be capable of learning them?
@spyroclone152
@spyroclone152 4 ай бұрын
While that would be interesting, I think that the gen 7+ starter pokémon had their signature moves carefully crafted into specifically fit their theme and anatomy without most of the other pokémon being able to replicate them. It also gives an excuse to let the starters stand out amongst their peers in order to give people a reason to keep them in their teams since no other pokémon can do those moves. (Incineroar's Darkest Lariat is an exception for some reason). Who knows, perhaps we'll get another musical themed fire type, or an archer bird, or grass magician? Either way, it would be sad if the gen 9 signature moves get distributed more because GF would probably need to nerf them if they did.
@varanus5622
@varanus5622 4 ай бұрын
@@spyroclone152 Pyro ball is pretty easy to redistribute thanks to its animation change in S/V
@daylimp2961
@daylimp2961 4 ай бұрын
@@varanus5622 all of them can be shared among other pokemon The British ones : how you mention Pyro ball - is easy Grass one - you don’t have to have drums for it , same thing with “punch” and “kick” moves. Snipe shot also
@RaccoonImpact3rd
@RaccoonImpact3rd 3 ай бұрын
​@@theamazingspooderman2697for Flower Trick, I'm thinking about H. Liligant. For Torch Song, it would be cool if Toxicitry also got it.
@chaosgallade2331
@chaosgallade2331 4 ай бұрын
1. Surf got nerfed to 90 BP in Gen VI onward, making it the same power as Sparkling Aria and Liquid Voice Hyper Voice. 2. Incineroar gained Knock Off in Ultra Sun/Moon; it wasn't able to get it in Sword/Shield without transferring it from one of the Alola games.
@alexdehatter2151
@alexdehatter2151 4 ай бұрын
Torch Song is scary with Throat Spray. It becomes Flamethrower and Nasty Plot in the same turn.
@CashMoneyBeater
@CashMoneyBeater 4 ай бұрын
Small correction (prob not first to call it out), but there is one F tier stater exclusive, and it’s so bad you forgot to include it: Greninja is the only Pokémon to learn Mat Block in Gen 6, making it an exclusive (and unfortunately unspeakably garbage) move for it
@thedragoknight6437
@thedragoknight6437 4 ай бұрын
Mat Block can be used in doubles and was really good back then making it more useful than 80% of all signature moves on this list
@leeeroyjenkins555
@leeeroyjenkins555 3 ай бұрын
​@@thedragoknight6437 pretty good for cheesing the battle maison and tree in super doubles back then
@EllipticalReasoning
@EllipticalReasoning 2 ай бұрын
mat block is an excellent move...
@CashMoneyBeater
@CashMoneyBeater 2 ай бұрын
Yall out here counting doubles smh. Get a pair and play a real format smh
@boasyV2
@boasyV2 2 ай бұрын
@@EllipticalReasoning it's ass. really ass. it doesn't get priority and only works first turn on the field. it doesn't even have a use in vgc and was so trash they removed it
@castform7
@castform7 4 ай бұрын
I will say Pyro Ball has to be me favorite. Not only is it stupid strong with the small 90% accuracy drawback (didn't stop me from missing it 3 times in a row once), it (at least in Sword and Shield) looked fantastic, one of the best animated....things in a Pokemon game. Unfortunately Scarlet and Violet gutted the cool factor dramatically.
@theamazingspooderman2697
@theamazingspooderman2697 4 ай бұрын
Pyro Ball is one of, if not the best animated starter signature move
@wikiuser92
@wikiuser92 4 ай бұрын
It and Flower Trick are probably amongst my favorite moves, and a big reason why I loved using those Pokémon in their respective games.
@harrycarter7683
@harrycarter7683 4 ай бұрын
Cinderace was my first starter for sword and sheild and has been one of my favourite starter pokemon ever since
@danovadragonplayz7115
@danovadragonplayz7115 4 ай бұрын
Sadly, we had to trade cool animations for open world. Hopefully they are able to bring the cool animations back for Z-A seeing as how they hired/are hiring more people to work on games.
@theamazingspooderman2697
@theamazingspooderman2697 4 ай бұрын
​@@danovadragonplayz7115 which is just a downgrade as the open world wasn't even good, no level scaling just makes it feel linear because as soon as you enjoy exploring, you remember that you can't overlevel or gym battles won't be fun anymore
@dc_dachi
@dc_dachi 4 ай бұрын
I think you’re massively overstating how “bad” Leaf Blade is for Sceptile. Yes, Sceptile is built for Special Attacks and the mismatch is unfortunate, but it’s not like Sceptile sets never run Leaf Blade. Like you mentioned, Sceptile’s movepool is geared towards physical attacks. It sometimes runs physical Swords Dance sets, in which case Leaf Blade is its primary STAB option. Compared to Emboar’s Heat Crash or Blaziken’s Blaze Kick, or even Inteleon Snipe Shot, Sceptile gets much more use out of Leaf Blade.
@lucasalarcon3230
@lucasalarcon3230 Ай бұрын
Sd unburden exist and the move was good in gen 3 not sure why is at the bottom
@bdletoast09
@bdletoast09 Ай бұрын
For the life of me, I will never understand why Game Freaks gave Sceptile such an amazing physical movepool... just to give him a better special attack instead. Like, he's already a glass canon with pitiful health and defense, you can't really afford to share his stats equally in attack and special atk. Just let him be a rare physical oriented grass type, that's what he looks like anyway. With his incredible speed, he feels like he's built to trash those who say that Grass type sucks because of its many weaknesses.
@devanteembreybanks424
@devanteembreybanks424 Ай бұрын
Snipe shot is an incredible move. It ignores move redirect, while having high crit ratio while also being on a sniper mon
@KuroBlitz
@KuroBlitz 4 ай бұрын
8:17 that heal timing in sync with the avatar change was perfect
@robertlupa8273
@robertlupa8273 4 ай бұрын
Another W for the editor
@adamsever697
@adamsever697 4 ай бұрын
They’ve been doing my boi Sceptile so dirty. He doesn’t deserve to be in ZU.
@Sparkarnation
@Sparkarnation 4 ай бұрын
Sceptile is one of my GOATED mons and my first starter. Sadly it wasn’t doing well in competitive over the years.
@dimentdash
@dimentdash 4 ай бұрын
They gave it Shed Tail at least
@zolyoo
@zolyoo 4 ай бұрын
just swap it’s base attack and special attack
@MeatbagSlayer
@MeatbagSlayer 4 ай бұрын
Just give Sceptile Earth Power and Nasty Plot already.
@zolyoo
@zolyoo 4 ай бұрын
@@MeatbagSlayer it does have swords dance and earthquake though
@ZachaRicO
@ZachaRicO 4 ай бұрын
13:10 Uh...did something happen in the editing process? It looks like the video skipped ahead, because the commentary seems to be a few seconds behind what's on the screen.
@gokuultrainstinct2479
@gokuultrainstinct2479 4 ай бұрын
Exactly my thought
@probablyjinxed
@probablyjinxed 4 ай бұрын
i’m just glad to find another pokétuber vouch for delphox’s design i’ve been fighting for that thing’s life ever since it first came out 💀 (it’s been a painful decade…)
@DZK312
@DZK312 Ай бұрын
Fr man it's one of my favorites, I've always loved it and was genuinely shocked when I first found out like years later that it was getting so much absolutely unfounded disrespect. (and chesnaut too, he's fine and doesn't deserve his sheer hate either)
@ethejumper6568
@ethejumper6568 3 ай бұрын
Timestamps: 0:00 Intro D-Tier: 0:32 Delphox 1:50 Sceptile 2:42 Emboar C-Tier: 3:16 Inteleon 3:56 Blaziken 4:40 Pikachu 5:14 Primarina 6:18 Swampert 7:23 Pause B-Tier: 7:27 Incineroar 8:22 Chesnaught 8:53 Rillaboom 9:29 Hisuian Typhlosion A-Tier: 9:54 Decidueye 10:36 Hisuian Decidueye 11:25 Greninja 12:09 Quaquavel S-Tier: 12:49 Cinderace 13:16 Hisuian Samurott 13:49 Meowscarada & Skeledirge 14:55 Outro
@varanus5622
@varanus5622 4 ай бұрын
Volt Tackle should've been a widely available physical electric move; this would make it a counterpart to flare blitz, wave crash, and wood hammer, and give all of the physical electric types a better attack than supercell slam.
@akshayreddy4071
@akshayreddy4071 4 ай бұрын
Who had the audacity to make wild charge 90 power AND give it goddamn recoil
@robertlupa8273
@robertlupa8273 4 ай бұрын
@@akshayreddy4071 AND not even give it a chance to Paralyze to compensate.
@akshayreddy4071
@akshayreddy4071 4 ай бұрын
@@robertlupa8273 I just looked at the list of pokemon that learn it, and turns out a really big portion of them aren't electric types, so ig as a basic physical electric coverage move its good that it can't para-not to mention it does really low recoil compared to like flare blitz and stuff. Still supercede slam being the only good physical electric move is tragic.
@varanus5622
@varanus5622 4 ай бұрын
@@akshayreddy4071 SERIOUSLY!!!
@dse763
@dse763 4 ай бұрын
Being an Electric Physical attacker is one of the of the worst fate a Pokemon can face (unless you're a Togedemaru with a good built-in signature move) due to the options being hot garbage. It's worse than Physical Fire really.
@theamazingspooderman2697
@theamazingspooderman2697 4 ай бұрын
2:57 Rob Liefield's Captain America jumpscare
@joekewl7539
@joekewl7539 4 ай бұрын
Spiky Shield is 100% top tier. Its protect but damage on contact. Its the single most optimal Protect clone there is, even better than Burning Bulwark or King's Shield. Its even better than regular Protect.
@AaronfRogers
@AaronfRogers 2 ай бұрын
+1
@Ribombastic
@Ribombastic 4 ай бұрын
Sparkling Aria has the same base power as Surf after that got nerfed in gen 6, actually. And Aria is the move of choice in Battle Stadium Singles (the in-game 3v3 format), at least, due to it bypassing Subs and the drawback of healing burns not being particularly relevant.
@valiantchris6456
@valiantchris6456 4 ай бұрын
Give Quaquaval Victory Dance to Pair with Aqua Step and Moxie, and that duck will break UU in half.
@spyroclone152
@spyroclone152 4 ай бұрын
Wow, a rare Delphox compliment! Video deserves a like just for that. It's kind of surprising considering the rest of the podcast unapologetically hates its guts. A W for JPR.
@Juniper_Rose
@Juniper_Rose 4 ай бұрын
unrelated, but it's really cool that delphox got wish and toxic at one point, because it fits both the D&D-style wizard (Wish being a super powerful spell) AND the Final Fantasy Black Mage-style (Toxic = Poison or Bio) it really felt like it was a proper wizard!
@Team-Eclipse6024
@Team-Eclipse6024 4 ай бұрын
Honestly, just change sniper to be the same power and effect as flower trick. An inteleon becomes viable (sometimes) as a special reg H legal urshifu.
@fyrex7797
@fyrex7797 4 ай бұрын
I love how if you breakdown flower trick, that deceptively weak seeming 70 power move becomes insanely broken conceptually. Its a 105 base power STAB move that ignores the user's attack drop and the foe's defense drops and also ignores screens. Oh yeah but it will factor in the user's attack boosts and opponents defense drops 😊. (your only damage reduction is burn lmao)
@LegionA.Bedard
@LegionA.Bedard 28 күн бұрын
Zippy Zap is the one best absolute attack. 80 power, +Speed AND evasion GUARANTEED and it's a priority move. It literally has been BUFFED in gen 8 even though no pokemon can use it
@frozenandchosen
@frozenandchosen 4 ай бұрын
I love getting new JPR videos on Fridays to get me through the last few hours of work 🔥
@ktvx.94
@ktvx.94 4 ай бұрын
Have we all forgotten about Court Change??
@JAILYNMORRIS-ot4gl
@JAILYNMORRIS-ot4gl 3 ай бұрын
Yes what is that
@daigustoemeral3710
@daigustoemeral3710 3 ай бұрын
Forgotten about mat block
@DaddyFutbol
@DaddyFutbol 4 ай бұрын
Blast Burn, Hydro Canon and Frenzy Plant are still god level
@ОрханСулејмани
@ОрханСулејмани 4 ай бұрын
They really aren't. All the physical attacking starters will never run them, and even the special attackers would only have them so they can have more powerful max or z moves of their respective types. No two turn move that doesn't have weather synergy, raise an attacking stat or is Geomancy sees any serious play in competitive play.
@renegade6578
@renegade6578 4 ай бұрын
Sure if you want a fancy hyper beam/giga impact
@gerardoortega323
@gerardoortega323 4 ай бұрын
I think the only time any of them were viable was blast burn with charizard in gen 3 ou because of how absurdly strong it would hit after petaya berry, blaze, and potentially sun. I think it can 1-shot a Blissey with all those power-ups which is really insane
@williambrinkmeier1772
@williambrinkmeier1772 4 ай бұрын
Blastoise was the only pokemon to learn skull bash by level up in gen 1 F tier
@miikaroos3809
@miikaroos3809 4 ай бұрын
But it was a TM, so it wasn't truly exclusive.
@leeeroyjenkins555
@leeeroyjenkins555 3 ай бұрын
The Kanto starters could only learn Hydro Canon, Blast Burn, and Frenzy Root on gen 3 via move tutors. Lets put all on S tier cuz of them as gmax moves!
@daigustoemeral3710
@daigustoemeral3710 3 ай бұрын
​@@leeeroyjenkins555so the jhoto/hoenn starters couldnt?
@wentoneisendon6502
@wentoneisendon6502 22 күн бұрын
Hydro cannon too in gen 3
@Gerg_BrawlStars69
@Gerg_BrawlStars69 4 ай бұрын
4:57 is footage of the fan game called “this gym of mine” the aggron was its regional form for that of you were wondering how I knew
@TKnHappyNess
@TKnHappyNess 4 ай бұрын
Technically Frenzy Plant, Blast Burn, and Hydro Cannon were exclusive to the Kanto starters' final evolutions, with the others not able to get them until Diamond and Pearl onwards, the only exception being the Johto starters in XD
@augstradus
@augstradus 4 ай бұрын
3:52 It also doesn't learn Scald in Gen 9
@kapiquantum
@kapiquantum 4 ай бұрын
Bro forgor about Mat Block on Greninja (like any other person probably)
@lenlimbo
@lenlimbo 4 ай бұрын
Gonna be honest, while I did remember Court Change actually exist and is one of Cinderace signature moves, I didn't remember Mat Block even existed. At all. In fact, I never learnt how it worked in gen 6, because I didn't consult wikis as much at that point, and the game didn't tell you that it only works on the first turn. So yeah, I erased the existance of that move from my mind.
@bryceharvey5572
@bryceharvey5572 4 ай бұрын
Thanks for making these videos JPR keep up the good work
@yaylaytorest
@yaylaytorest 4 ай бұрын
I used an inteleon in a romhack and it was CRACKED oneshotting most if not everything with critical hit rain boosted snipe shots
@kayleifden
@kayleifden 9 күн бұрын
Which hack?
@yaylaytorest
@yaylaytorest 9 күн бұрын
@kayleifden radical red
@marinagaleotti
@marinagaleotti 4 ай бұрын
Inteleon's snipe shot should have honestly gotten meowscarada's effect. A sniper built on critical hits makes more sense than funny magician cat to have an always critting no miss move.
@ninjakirby777
@ninjakirby777 4 ай бұрын
Sniper shot has the can’t be redirected quality which is good because storm drain exists and it has sniper as its hidden ability anyway
@SomeDudeWhoIsntDead
@SomeDudeWhoIsntDead 4 ай бұрын
0/10 me like funny magic cat
@robertlupa8273
@robertlupa8273 4 ай бұрын
@@SomeDudeWhoIsntDead me like cat furry :3
@scoobiusmaximus9508
@scoobiusmaximus9508 4 ай бұрын
In 8 they were trying not to break the game wide open with the starter moves. In Gen 9 they stopped pretending to care about balance. That's why Torch Song is literally just Volcarona's already powerful signature move Fiery Dance but with the effect chance doubled. They moved the goalpost on balance.
@robertlupa8273
@robertlupa8273 4 ай бұрын
@@scoobiusmaximus9508 I don't think Fiery Dance was used much, but that's because Volcarona already has the obscenely powerful Quiver Dance.
@mpesposito6973
@mpesposito6973 4 ай бұрын
The one good use I can think of for sparkling aria is against a flame orb guts user. For example, against an Ursaluna, that would be devastating.
@solarbear7229
@solarbear7229 4 ай бұрын
If it's still holding the flame orb, the guts would just re activate.
@14akamaru
@14akamaru 4 ай бұрын
@@swag_uwu Oh. Sorry. My stupidity was showing.
@daigustoemeral3710
@daigustoemeral3710 3 ай бұрын
​@@solarbear7229yes but if you move faster then you deactivate it till the end of the turn
@ezelalia5739
@ezelalia5739 4 ай бұрын
till this day Greninja's Protean nerf and Battle Bond nerf hurts me, i know im probably the only one since Greninja was hated for being in almost evey team but damn he was a fun pokemon
@wentoneisendon6502
@wentoneisendon6502 4 ай бұрын
Aqua step terrifies me. One moxie boost and it's game over
@abhiveerbirdi9377
@abhiveerbirdi9377 3 ай бұрын
I'm surprised elemental hyperbeams didn't make the cut. Also razor shell, leaf tornado, eruption, petal dance?
@aohitsugis
@aohitsugis 19 күн бұрын
None of them were signature moves!
@skillhunter4804
@skillhunter4804 4 ай бұрын
ceaseless edge is definitely the most broken in singles, followed by torch song the former is insane on literally any mon
@RBGolbat
@RBGolbat 4 ай бұрын
I think near the end, the editing is slightly off for the images are showing up a few seconds earlier than they want to based on the audio
@Honeybee9630
@Honeybee9630 4 ай бұрын
0:58 That just earned you a subscriber and a like Keep up the delphox love!
@artimist0315
@artimist0315 3 ай бұрын
I don't know if they are proper signature moves but Razor Shell, Leaf tornado, Flame wheel, Tatamigaeshi and court change could have definitely been mentioned.
@degeneratewithasideoftidep6795
@degeneratewithasideoftidep6795 4 ай бұрын
Another thing about Inteleon’s signature move: It has innate Stalwart/Propeller Tail, giving it a niche over its other water stabs since it can’t be redirected by Storm Drain, Follow Me, or Rage Powder
@kroganshepard6594
@kroganshepard6594 4 ай бұрын
Delphox's design is egregiously overhated
@wikiuser92
@wikiuser92 4 ай бұрын
100% agreed.
@nintendolife25
@nintendolife25 4 ай бұрын
Honestly, I don’t get the hate for it. I actually liked it tbh.
@koffeetechshow
@koffeetechshow 4 ай бұрын
Especially considering other mons designs 🥴 delphox is definitely better, including starters even made after the pokemon. People are just coping
@jaioncebollero1168
@jaioncebollero1168 4 ай бұрын
It’s easily one of the best looking new Pokémon in a while
@SirLucian
@SirLucian 4 ай бұрын
I also love it. It fits magician vibe so well. In fact, I don't really hate any post gen 6 starters. The one I'm not fond of is just normal Typhlosion. It's bland but still nice.
@켄지
@켄지 4 ай бұрын
Court Change : "Am I a fk joke to you?"
@oddsmile1234
@oddsmile1234 4 ай бұрын
I wonder how much this list would change if we just considered the moves by themselves and not how they perform on the pokemon they were made for.
@yaya6195
@yaya6195 2 ай бұрын
The lower ones def might move but the really high ones are probably not gonna budge
@Pishooter
@Pishooter 4 ай бұрын
Sincerally, i would separate regular gren from ash gren. In greninja case i agree with everything you said thats a A rank move for being a priority stab that has a chance for big damage. But in ash gren case, thats a priority stab in a hands of legendary level sp.atk that always deals big damage, cuz battle bond not only raises the move's bp to 25 per hit, but guarantees 3 hits instead of 2. For good mesures the only priority that surpass the bp of a 5 hits battle bond water shuriken is none other than kingambit's FIVE FALLEN BLACKGLASSES sucker punch (thats S+ for me)
@mrsnatural2368
@mrsnatural2368 4 ай бұрын
Wait, sound moves go through Substitute?
@MrGunner121
@MrGunner121 4 ай бұрын
physical leaf blade at 90 base power is slightly stronger than special leaf blade at 70 power (in gen 3) for Sceptile, so your ranking makes no sense. It should at least be B tier imo.
@kieranreed944
@kieranreed944 4 ай бұрын
Quaquaval with Moxie makes Aqua Step an S Tier. Basically a Dragon Dance that does damage (assuming it KO's)
@Jlaps941
@Jlaps941 4 ай бұрын
Another problem with Muddy Water is that you’ll probably have already Surf from beating Norman before Swampert gets Muddy Water at level 39, and Marshtomp only gets it if you hold off evolving it to Swampert for one level at 37
@marioipod
@marioipod 4 ай бұрын
Actually Swampert gets Muddy Water at Level 46. I know because I have personally used Swampert.
@Jlaps941
@Jlaps941 4 ай бұрын
@@marioipod you’re probably misremembering because Serebii, Bulbapedia, and PokemonDB list Swampert learning Muddy Water at 39 from gens 3-7 and 42 in gens 8 & 9. He does learn protect at 46 in gens 3-5 and XY and doesn’t learn anything at 46 in ORAS or gens 7-9
@thewindysage1538
@thewindysage1538 Ай бұрын
One thing to take into account is that in USUM is that water type attack tms are kinda rare until poni canyon so sparkling aria can be useful in an adventure as the best other option us running water pulse until you get surf
@Naxoie
@Naxoie 4 ай бұрын
7:42 T-POSE RED LION JUMPSCARE
@RockOrso2
@RockOrso2 4 ай бұрын
Darkest Lariat haunts me as it is the best move the Unrivaled Incineroar brings when you keep your defense very high via Psych Up from it's Bulk Up spam.
@alphamarigi
@alphamarigi 4 ай бұрын
Leaf Blade, Crab Hammer, and the Fire, Ice and Thunder Punches should have been exceptions to the pre split rules
@pratikgurung7153
@pratikgurung7153 4 ай бұрын
Wait what? First time I've ever heard that sound based moves pass through substitute 😂
@MLmaster135
@MLmaster135 4 ай бұрын
one of the interesting aspects of Water Shuriken is that its surprisingly effective w/King's rock when the flinch chance works, especially if Greninja can come in behind a substitute and/or is able to have Evasion stacks as long as there's no water immune mons. I can still recall my Greninja flinching a human opponent's venusaur for legit over 10 turns straight from Water Shuriken Spam w/King's rock flinch chance activating back in da x & y days. sure the chance is low since you're more than likely to hit 2-3 times rather than 4-5 but it weirdly works decently well 🤔 as for da High Crit rate moves like Leaf Blade/Blaze Kick, those're some of my fave moves, esp Blaze Kick's animation in the Colosseum/Battle Revolution spin-off series. sure their power/accuracy(for Blaze Kick) may be their weak point but the high crit ratios really nice. I always like using these even if there's stronger moves that could be used (depends on generation)
@Zenithal1843
@Zenithal1843 4 ай бұрын
Incineroar got Knock Off in Gen 7 with USUM’s Move Tutors
@superfox5707
@superfox5707 4 ай бұрын
Wasn’t razor shell the signature move of regular Samurott? Idk if I heard you even mention that one. Which might be saying something.
@juanpabloelizarrarazoliva2804
@juanpabloelizarrarazoliva2804 4 ай бұрын
The thing is it wasn't, Emboar hat heat crash so people assumed Samurott also had a move, razor shell it shows Oshawott's shell in the animation after all but it was able to be learnt by shellder (not cloyster, only shellder) There's also Serperior's leaf tornado which also wasn't signature but I guess People were looking for a move to complete the trio
@SethRietdijk
@SethRietdijk 3 ай бұрын
It’s crazy how all the starter signature moves in d tier are excellent on Ubers in that meta, like heat crash primal groudon being like 120bp against Pokémon like necrozma dusk mane, leaf blade is the grass attack for physical attackers, and mystical fire is a great addition to xerneas to hit steel types with a move stronger than hidden power
@shanelloyd853
@shanelloyd853 4 ай бұрын
I feel bad for Inteleon. It's got a signature move that only has a higher chance of criting, Only fot Urshifu to show up in the DLC and have signature moves that do what Inteleons should have. Then just to rub salt in the wound, gen 9 just makes Meowscarada.
@Ogerponyo
@Ogerponyo 4 ай бұрын
Oi Josuke! I did a little dance and now all 6 of my opponents pokemon are dead! Ain't that wacky?
@elinoris8047
@elinoris8047 Ай бұрын
Was half expecting to see eruption on johtonian typhlosion, those two are just so linked in my mind
@leeeroyjenkins555
@leeeroyjenkins555 3 ай бұрын
The Kanto starters were the only ones to learn Hydro Canon, Blast Burn, and Frenzy Root on gen 3 via move tutors. Lets put all on S tier cuz of them as gmax moves!
@GamingGuyTy429
@GamingGuyTy429 28 күн бұрын
Snipe shot at C tier is INSANE 😭 In addition to its increased crit chance + inteleon having sniper, it ignores ALL redirection! This includes follow me, rage powder, ally switch, AND storm drain. As a VGC player, I'd have it in at least A tier of signature water moves. Other than that, I think the rankings are fairly accurate. You earned a sub 👍🏾
@ShayTheValiant
@ShayTheValiant 4 ай бұрын
I can't wait for a gen 10 starter's signature move to just give an omni boost every time it's used.
@zachmowat8994
@zachmowat8994 12 күн бұрын
While Pyro Ball is Cinderace's main attacking move, it also gets another, much more useful signature move: Court Change. Just having a cinderace on the team, with the potential of having court change on the back pocket, most people will be hesitant to set up entry hazards or screens. Court Change is the main reason Cinderace was banned in Smogon. It belongs in SS tier, above all else
@BruceBoyde
@BruceBoyde 4 ай бұрын
I haven't played LA, so it's always kinda funny hearing about Hisui Decidueye. My only frame of reference is PMex, where he's absolutely busted good.
@BJGvideos
@BJGvideos 4 ай бұрын
It's a good game! You should check it out. And it has no competitive so use whatever you want. I cheesed the superboss with a Hippowdon of all things.
@BruceBoyde
@BruceBoyde 4 ай бұрын
@@BJGvideos yeah, I'll definitely get around to it. Only heard good things, and I bet I can get a used copy at this point
@eimardgomes1128
@eimardgomes1128 2 ай бұрын
08:07 Incineroar already had knock off in gen 7
@Tunit9320
@Tunit9320 Ай бұрын
Poor Sceptile. How the mighty have fallen. 😔
@Angelovizk
@Angelovizk 4 ай бұрын
Flower Trick is basically Slash and Razor Leaf in gen 1, which would crit nearly 100% the time, only difference is that Flower Trick never miss and have higher base atk. l'm a huge fan of the entire Sprigatito line but who the fk thought that bring back the most broken thing in gen1 but on steroids was a good idea? 😂
@matjepson2192
@matjepson2192 4 ай бұрын
What about Mat Block and Court Change?
@gutpunchYT
@gutpunchYT 3 ай бұрын
how did you forget! cinderace has 2 signature moves, it also has court change!
@gutpunchYT
@gutpunchYT 3 ай бұрын
also, technically in PLA, torterra, empoleon, and infernape gain headlong rush, wave crash, and raging fury as signature moves, respectively! (and lowkey also razor shell for samurott in BW)
@gutpunchYT
@gutpunchYT 3 ай бұрын
oh yeah, and greninja has mat block as well!
@TheManadeath
@TheManadeath 4 ай бұрын
When i was doing my first playthrough of violet. i just used torchsong and swept every team once i had the evolution. pumping special attack every turn, made it to where was one shotting with 1/2 or 1/4 effectiveness still.
@StephenMeek
@StephenMeek 2 ай бұрын
Aqua step also activates Oricorio's Dancer, but that's a minor and niche detail and will hardly ever see competitive use
@bathilra5364
@bathilra5364 4 ай бұрын
Finally a list of all starter signature move lists that includes spikey shield
@mudkiporsomething9755
@mudkiporsomething9755 4 ай бұрын
i hope the johto, sinnoh and kanto starters get signature moves in the future, it would be pretty fun to speculate on what moves they could get, especially with the ones that dont see much action like meganium maybe some sort of grass type hex for venusaur, or a move for meganium that works like giga drain but heals all active party members that you have out (maybe 50% for singles and doubles like giga drain, but 33% in triples? idk, not like triples is a super important format) something like ceaseless edge for torterra but with stealth rock could be interesting an idea i had for blastoise could be a multi-hitting water type move that always hits either 2 or 4 times, and knocks down flying types like with smack down. going for a sort of "surface to air missile" cannon approach to fit with blastoise
@F14thunderhawk
@F14thunderhawk 4 ай бұрын
Skull Bash is actually the squirtle Line's signature move
@matts5747
@matts5747 4 ай бұрын
The Sinnoh starters had pseudo signature moves in Arceus. I say pseudo as Headlong Rush, Raging Fury, and Wave Crash are shared by Ursaluna, Hisuian Arcanine, and the White Stripe Basculin line, they were the only other Pokémon that learned it but yeah It would be nice to see that
@mudkiporsomething9755
@mudkiporsomething9755 4 ай бұрын
@@F14thunderhawk i didnt actually know that damn weird for squirtle to get one and not the others
@daigustoemeral3710
@daigustoemeral3710 3 ай бұрын
​@@mudkiporsomething9755i would prefer blastoise relearning zap cannon and having the ability mega launcher and allows it to also boost cannon moves
@darkcerabrate
@darkcerabrate 4 ай бұрын
i dont play competitive but for raids my Skeldirge is a special wall. Max HP and SPDef with assault vest XD Torch Song makes it possible to actually deal damage
@greenbrick5969
@greenbrick5969 Ай бұрын
Well sparkling aria has one very specific niche in that it can shut down guts users if you have knock off on a different mon
@FalconsEye58094
@FalconsEye58094 4 ай бұрын
Swampert’s Muddy Water used to be a favorite but wound up just replacing it with Surf
@SeventhGod77
@SeventhGod77 3 ай бұрын
Here’s a little tip for everyone: go on Pokémon showdown, stabmons, skill link cloyster, shell smash, water shuriken, any other moves you want. Throw a fire and grass type in there for coverage and win games.
@cheeseburgerlazers
@cheeseburgerlazers 4 ай бұрын
i disagree torch song raising your special attack every turn its used has way more utility than always landing critial hits man. like even if you use it once it boosts all your other attacks
@Kuropopex
@Kuropopex 4 ай бұрын
I know its not a signature move but i really think Infernape goes really nice with Fire Blitz. Maybe its because Diamond was the first game I ever played, or because the anime really did an amazing job with Ash's Infernape. And, with Fire Blitz being introduced in Gen 4, where if you didn't choose Infernape probably you didn't had a fire type on your team. Nice video
@fnfeve
@fnfeve 2 ай бұрын
People forget skeledirge can have throat spray making a +1 boost into a plus two on your FIRST torch song
@SonBlackHeart22
@SonBlackHeart22 4 ай бұрын
Do the elemental hyper beams count they where exclusive to the Kanto Starters in Gen 3 first before the other starters can use them.
@KnightLineArtYT
@KnightLineArtYT 3 ай бұрын
I'd put Blaze Kick a bit higher. But since other moves got updated here and there, maybe the accuracy can too, even if I personally didn't have issues with it.
@oscarmorales9606
@oscarmorales9606 4 ай бұрын
I use to use mystical fire during that gen. It actually worked pretty well and helped me rank higher than I have before 😂 I would run a full defense/Sp. Defense delphox with will-o-wisp, mystical fire, grass knot, & psyshock with a weakness policy.
@zhongli6370
@zhongli6370 4 ай бұрын
You forgot to mention that Flower Trick will also always hit no matter what. And a question, do the Evoli Signature-Attacks from Let’s Go count as Starter Signature Moves?
@kamentrainerhorn2073
@kamentrainerhorn2073 4 ай бұрын
Good to see the coolest Gen 9 Starter getting the respect it deserves! Meowscarada FTW!!!
@anitadash6959
@anitadash6959 4 ай бұрын
Bro what happened to regular typhlosions’s fire spin or infernape’s Mach punch and blazing fury
@adriangenao22
@adriangenao22 4 ай бұрын
Found this video on my recommended, great video definitely worth subscribing to the channel
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