Fantastic wow!! I think you may be the most detailed, best mastering teacher on youtube. Thanks SO much for sharing this knowledge
@panorama_mastering2 жыл бұрын
Wow, thank you! You're very welcome!
@r0bzmusic7772 ай бұрын
@@panorama_mastering why do you gain stage at -6 db true peak ????? how does it make it possible to swap the plugin placement or delete without it affecting the sound level ??
@nathanieljohnsonjr775 Жыл бұрын
Probably one of the best videos I’ve ever watched. While I’ve been mixing for years, I’m now having master records for clients. This video has helped so much!!!
@panorama_mastering Жыл бұрын
Mate that's awesome ! Super humbling!
@bassinblue Жыл бұрын
Absolutely loved this bro! I felt the vocals seemed separated from the instrumental, or the 'karaoke effect' as I like to call it, but you really glued it all together perfectly. Very helpful and informative. Keep up the good work bro!
@panorama_mastering Жыл бұрын
Appreciate it! Thanks for listening! Much more to come!
@AndyBhullar2 ай бұрын
Would you happen to have a similar setup for Logic Pro X ? Your explanations of the concepts and science behind working in the audio spectrum is top class..!! I have not come across anyone else who has explained this topic in such detail... KUDOS !!
@user-kx9vz2my6f5 ай бұрын
This is a really great, fundamental mastering flow. Can you clarify why you perform clipping after Dynamics and Tone, instead of before Dynamics? I assumed that by doing clipping first, you are providing a more even set of dynamics to the compressor.
@diegooliveirabenjamin2 жыл бұрын
That was straight up awesome, and I’m already a pro, really cool content man
@panorama_mastering2 жыл бұрын
Thanks man; that's super humbling; thanks for watching!
@saardean44812 жыл бұрын
In Kotelnikov i use the internal sc of the compressor or better said the "Low Freq Relax" all the time. Especially in this kind of scenario. I usually land with a xover point of around 150-200 hz and this makes it ultra clean on the summ without pumping with the low end. Nice video . Enjoyed
@panorama_mastering2 жыл бұрын
Yeap; the HP-SC filter on kotelnikov is great; and also super flexible in terms of filter slope and variable FREQ selection!
@panorama_mastering2 жыл бұрын
p.s Thanks for watching ;)
@witnessthelightmusic2 жыл бұрын
Awesome!! Looking forward to your video!
@panorama_mastering2 жыл бұрын
Thank you mate! Drops in about another 4 and a half hours!
@wazzpqazzza2 жыл бұрын
Love it, really specifically useful information throughout and using lots of free plugins, too. Keep rolling like this and you're gonna go places fr
@panorama_mastering2 жыл бұрын
Thanks, will do!
@sgdsgf50892 жыл бұрын
Amazing work, thankful for your content
@panorama_mastering2 жыл бұрын
My pleasure! Thanks for watching!
@plusheldergod Жыл бұрын
Extremely useful tutorial, both at the conceptual level and the practical implementation. Thank you!
@panorama_mastering Жыл бұрын
You're very welcome!
@Formlessrecording2 жыл бұрын
Excellent video. Your stuff has been much appreciated as I started my journey in mastering this year.
@panorama_mastering2 жыл бұрын
Thanks man! Super happy to hear!
@sgfdancecompany Жыл бұрын
StandarClip rules!!!
@panorama_mastering Жыл бұрын
Yeah; super easy and intuitive to dial in!
@sgfdancecompany Жыл бұрын
@@panorama_mastering and cheap, to my ears the best clipper plugin in the market
@TonyCooMusic-m5cАй бұрын
Great video, im bit bit confused with the way you did the clipping. Would it not be the same thing to just set the clip to -6 then drive the input 2db and leave the output at 0. Please could you explain the reasonings for the way you did it. Thanks :)
@elonthebass68702 жыл бұрын
Great video! Love your channel! You really know your stuff! Thank you for sharing some of your insights in mastering. It’s really informative and enlightening. Surprisingly you and I have very similar approaches so I’m really interested to see more of your channel. Just subscribed!
@panorama_mastering2 жыл бұрын
Amazing; thanks for watching and subbing! Excited to share more with you as time goes on!
@chris_johnson_music2 жыл бұрын
I'll be watching this video a lot! Thank you so much ;)
@panorama_mastering2 жыл бұрын
No worries, if you need clarification on anything; feel free to reach out!
@Warcrumbler2 жыл бұрын
Great video! Would love to see when and how you add saturation into your mastering process.
@panorama_mastering2 жыл бұрын
Definitely! Will add that to the concept list :)
@tumicologytaungmusic87802 жыл бұрын
I subscribed just because you reply to everyone as you can. Great content. 👍
@panorama_mastering2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the sub! I definitely try to respond to every comment; I think if the channel continues to grow at this rate; I'll create a chat room (Discord or something) so that way I can channel more niche/indepth communications with the audience on the go; (Commenting and responding inside KZbin can be a bit clunky at times)
@zweiklangmusic2 жыл бұрын
Free Clip from Venn Audio is a free alternative to Standard Clip. TDR Nova is also a great free plugin for mastering.
@panorama_mastering2 жыл бұрын
Yeap! I actually DLed that before shooting this but it wasn’t loading into my plugin list on PT :(
@marceloribeirosimoes8959 Жыл бұрын
Cool! Hornet has some plugins for gain-stage that could help, too.
@panorama_mastering Жыл бұрын
Awesome; I'll definitely have to check it out!
@zoleska9 ай бұрын
Great straight forward video, I was expecting some exciters and widening plugins on the master bus but I guess it didn't need it, would you be able to do a vid on how to master a bad mix? Thank you
@audioishmedia5 ай бұрын
it help a lot man! thank you
@panorama_mastering5 ай бұрын
Glad it helped!
@CLdwyer2 жыл бұрын
It’s interesting. You made a comment about the guitars pulling you in. I actually noted the opposite, they seemed too pushed compared with everything else. Liked the depth of the vocal and wanted more. Wondering if pulling more from the mid low signal can give more vocal and low end rhythm. Loving the approach!
@panorama_mastering2 жыл бұрын
That's the beauty of mastering, sound and music; as soon as we move into subjective territory all our ears hear things differently; and it's what makes for the colours; shades and diversity in our music production craft!
@CLdwyer2 жыл бұрын
@@panorama_mastering and what’s interesting is that we kinda heard the same things anyway. Ultimately you made it warmer. Your moves with the snare and the top in tamed what I was hearing in the guitars and it also gave everything more density. So I could hear more depth in the snare and vocal. That’s fun ha 🙌🏾
@mdt371 Жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot for yours videos, i've learned a lot ;) cheers
@panorama_mastering Жыл бұрын
Glad you like them! My pleasure!
@juanchis.investigadorsonoro2 жыл бұрын
❓ For some reason, is it me? I listen to this a lot. Hi Hat is sounding first left side, then right side. Sometimes Overheads are inverted. It could be a bit lower. I find it quite crispy and “disclocated from the mix” (as I usually say). Like it’s own world. There is some digital distortion in the pre-bridge part that’s kinda rough on the ears. Maybe a bit more 60 Hz. I feel like the mix doesn’t really change through macrodynamics. Even when the last hit comes back, it doesn’t hit. I’ll explain myself below. 💕 Gtr, Drum & Bass groove hard, these draw me in. The vocal is really consistent, I love that. The tone of the main elements is great. 💬 I’m having this struggle at the moment with the way I listen, just putting more instruments is not the same as actually lifting the energy just because. We have macrodynamics, a way we go into section from another section. How Verse 1 compares to Verse 2 & so on. Microdynamics is another balance we should be also putting attention too, even though mix should be safe by now. Ideally Oh you precisely talked about macro & micro after writing this (I paused the video to copy my text before listening ha). I found you on TkTk, I really like how precise you are. I couldn’t agree more with a lot of the things you say & show. Thanks for taking the time to share & make in depth videos as well. Internet is a lonely place. :) My only actual complain with your process is why -.2? All Streaming requires -1 dB TB, codecs need that space to avoid distortion. .8 dB is not going to turn a song into a hit & even though everyone listens on headphones an only 5% of us care about that distortion, why? It's a very honest question.
@panorama_mastering2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for dropping by; lots to unpack in that comment; but appreciate you taking the time; I'll take one bite at a time here; The -0.2 is because I will always audition with a codec before committing the master and make changes if audible distortion is being introduced; and often; unless you've got raving ISP's rarely is it causing audible distortions; never had the streaming platforms punish me or my clients for it; as an ADM certified engineer I also do print out in parallel a -1.0dBTP version if my clients wish to submit their masters for ADM(Apple digital masters); that's really the only platform that has documented a standard which the engineers need to ADHERE TO; Spotify's -2dBTP is simply a "suggestion".
@itrema Жыл бұрын
great video, thanks for sharing ! on my side the thing i do at the end is to compare AT THE SAME VOLUME the track of client and the master so can you realize sometimes you lost energy, modified tone, brought too much distortion or other plenty things from the original (or not ) it prevents me from making errors, we never know ;-)
@panorama_mastering Жыл бұрын
Great tip! Definitely advise this too!
@patsony Жыл бұрын
U save my music life brother
@retsucharliez1502 жыл бұрын
The most important thing for an engineer (record/mixing/mastering) is acoustic treatment and good quality gear. Why no one talk about it lol.
@panorama_mastering2 жыл бұрын
You are correct; it's a very important thing for an engineer; For myself, I'm fortunate to work in a space which is purpose built; even though I'm well versed in acoustics I don't engage in acoustics/discussions in day-to-day operations; That's why a lot of my videos are centred around my process in sessions that I am actually doing; Out of curiosity though what would you or others be interested in hearing from a Mastering Engineer on the topic of accoustics? Warmly, N.
@ampersand64 Жыл бұрын
@@panorama_mastering how useful are good headphones vs. full speakers? Seems like I can get good headphones for
@sebg2193 Жыл бұрын
Awesome video man, mastering can be so daunting after doing the whole production and mix, But I think I was just overthinking it and trying to add to many steps when the mix was already 98% there. Cheers
@panorama_mastering Жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it!
@zenluiz11 ай бұрын
18:04 why gain staging with True Peak instead of just Peak value? Awesome video!
@panorama_mastering11 ай бұрын
Thanks man; Plugins that have oversampling will read closer to the true peak than the original sample peak
@imcymk Жыл бұрын
tinder logo in the preview is still the best part of this video
@panorama_mastering Жыл бұрын
Ouch... shots fired!
@Mdjagg Жыл бұрын
Great video! Ashame you can't "Lyrics Replace" like you can sample replace with drums though! Lol
@runemidsun Жыл бұрын
Topp formula, thanks and cheers
@DjFreethesheep9 ай бұрын
For me maybe EQ down a bit 400 -600hz that range seems to to create too much hollow sound.. As if it's coming from a Behringer mixer hollow.. But just me🤪🥂
@alexsdmmx11 ай бұрын
Really helpful video man, the PT session should be in the resolution of the mix file for what i understand (24-48), but can it be in 32 bits for example, would it be a benefit if i do so?
@alexaguilar6789 Жыл бұрын
Thanks man! Amazing tips!
@maxxn98636 ай бұрын
really love it !!
@YohannDore2 жыл бұрын
Great Video! this was very informative! In the details!
@panorama_mastering2 жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful! Thanks for watching!
@paakwesinewman-crentsil419 Жыл бұрын
Your content is #justplainincredible Really appreciate the time and effort you put into helping "us" And yea, I smashed that like button right when you said it And I don't regret it at all [having finished watching this tutorial] #blessings
@deadshot4245 Жыл бұрын
genius gain staging starter point so many people dont think about that at all
@deadshot4245 Жыл бұрын
the bass in the verse needs some more depth. and for me drums panning of toms individually if able and making sure the cymbals have some width that is equal roughly to the same stereo fields as the toms give or take by 15 % of the panning so for example if the left side tom was panned out 40 % left the the left cymbal slightly further panning by an amount all by taste more than a specific variable depends on the song im picky as hell about where drums set in a mix and i like to have my cymbals and toms to be very wide and giving the kick and snare more center pan space same for the hi hat and ride i go in vs the other cymbals and toms like only 15% to 25 or 30% panning and try and set it up to where they all have there only pocket in a stereo field as if you were behind the drums but slightly exaggerated and then i throw reverb and blend the dry and the fx channel in and eq the reverb as well to cut out the low end kick range some and roll off highs
@deadshot4245 Жыл бұрын
also forgot to note something i do too on my snare eq is boost 820 hz by anything from 3 6 up to about 9 or so db boost alex van halen trick apparently and i like the results depending on the snare
@kiko8u2 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@panorama_mastering2 жыл бұрын
You're welcome!
@joeyf8082 жыл бұрын
Great Stuff. A video on more RX details would be great. What do you do when a client sends multiple files of a mix, and want them to be all exact lengths in Protools?
@panorama_mastering2 жыл бұрын
Hey Joey! Thanks for watching; I usually have them sequenced one after the next in the read track; then AFTER I print them (It will be one continuous region now); click to highlight the read-regions; then use the selection tool to select that part of the print/capture channels region and cut the region to that exact length; rinse and repeat for following alternatives; THEN; Drop them into a playlist where I can edit them all together stacked ontop of one another;
@joeyf8082 жыл бұрын
@@panorama_mastering Awesome! Keep up the great work. Looking forward to your future videos.
@panorama_mastering2 жыл бұрын
My pleasure! Will do!
@manthosdamigos Жыл бұрын
Great tutorial, thank you so much! Kazrog released a new free clipper, probably a great addition to all of us wanting to add a high quality tool to our arsenal! One question. By gain staging on true peak -6db, I noticed at times the processing increased the perceived loudness. Whilst it is the point from a "maximizing loudness" perspective, won't the increased perceived loudness skew our ears to prefer the louder/processed signal? Wouldn't it be good to also test on the same perceived loudness to make some critical decisions for eq, compression, etc?
@panorama_mastering Жыл бұрын
No worries; You're correct; namely I keep peak levels consistent so peak detectors on dynamics processors in a chain can continue to operate with similar chain signals; the level matching/perceived loudness; I'll do by level matching the output of the master to the original mix;
@manthosdamigos Жыл бұрын
@@panorama_mastering Oh great great! Good to know! Thanks for taking the time to reply! :D
@bygonebotanical7 ай бұрын
Your videos are phenomenal! 👏🏻 I’m wondering if the mix is less than -6db true peak (say -8db) would you increase as opposed to attenuate the gain?
@karolis.burzinskas20 күн бұрын
I'm doing my own mix and master, but I invested some time in learning stuff, made some shitty albums and then everything clicked and I'm good. 🙂 Mastering services can't do justice to music.
@NoQualmsTheArtist2 жыл бұрын
Awesome explanation. Why do you set your ceiling to -0.2 instead of -1.0 TP? Do you not care about intersample peaks when encoding to small compressed files etc? This still confuses me 🤷🏾♂️
@panorama_mastering2 жыл бұрын
Hey man :) It's simple; whether you're at 0.2 0.3 -1.0dbTP what matters is that you audition the material through a codec; that's what matters; is what actually happens to that specific master when it goes through a 96kbps aac codec; Probably need to do a whole video on this topic alone;
@4dmind Жыл бұрын
If you did a heavy rock/metal mastering course, I would be all over that. Love this channel!
@cesaravila4748 Жыл бұрын
copy paste of my notes while listening to the mix without looking your notes. first guitars get a lil harshy sometimes vocals need presence on the 3.5-5k area to harsh some highs kick needs more punch mids of the guiitars arent well balanced i didnt understand the 2 questions of whats pushing me away and whats pulling me in but im glad i feel like im in the ballpark of feeling it great experiment to test my ears tbh
@panorama_mastering Жыл бұрын
Awesome; good work!
@JKash74112 жыл бұрын
Absolutely incredible video and will definitely help me make huge strides! I do have a dumb question since I've heard many people argument both for and against this: when would you use a linear phase EQ in mastering? I know that LP can cause pre-ringing, but I can't exactly hear that on anything other than a sine wave at this point in my learning journey. What are your thoughts?
@panorama_mastering2 жыл бұрын
To be honest; I rarely use linear phase when mastering; a lot of the pre-ringing you'll be able to hear will be on LF content; The only specific use case I can think of for using linear phase consistently in mastering is if I'm looking to cut low frequencies from the side signal; as keeping that signal in phase is important for the mono-translation of the low-end;
@DarrenAudioguy Жыл бұрын
If you wanted to use different compressor setting on different sections of the track with the setup you outline here, how would you go about that and maintain the gain staging?
@panorama_mastering Жыл бұрын
Automate the parameters from one section to the next; including the gain;
@DJTwenty20206 ай бұрын
Grade A tutorials SIr, thank you!
@FredDeMassiveAlambic Жыл бұрын
Hi, liked this course very much ! Focusing on simple tools, notes..etc So good ! I was wondering : can true peak really be our reference ? I understood that it makes easier to calibrate tools, but A/B listening seems wrong (for me !).. The dynamic tools brings a lot of loudness and I was thinking that A/B should be done on apparent loudness rather than on same true peak's levels.. I might be completely off, but isn't it what LUFS is designed for ?
@panorama_mastering Жыл бұрын
peak level; is more-so just for line-level/signal flow sakes; not necesserily for A/Bing, LUFS and RMS are both more accurate for that!;
@FredDeMassiveAlambic Жыл бұрын
@@panorama_mastering thanks !
@thevi_olin2 жыл бұрын
Interesting topic!
@panorama_mastering2 жыл бұрын
Glad you think so!
@thevi_olin2 жыл бұрын
@@panorama_mastering I'm trying to learn mixing and mastering lately and it's such a fun journey. Your views on the topic ,and esp. the workflow you went through, is super helpful. So much to learn, so little time :) thanks for sharing!
@garyroberts18432 жыл бұрын
Really helpful. Q: Why not put the clipper before the compressor?
@panorama_mastering Жыл бұрын
Clippers tend to introduces harmonic distortion; introducing those harmonics early on in the process as low-level information makes way for the possibility of them to be amplified with any further processing; I like leaving it at the end of the process for a bit more control and a cleaner sound;
@ampersand64 Жыл бұрын
@@panorama_mastering wow, I learned something today, thank you!
@blueflame9966 Жыл бұрын
Is there a reason why you create a separate mix for the master ? sorry I may have missed it
@davidasher222 жыл бұрын
Goldmine!
@panorama_mastering2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching mate!
@spickeys50782 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the resourceful video! Is it legit to use the Pro-L2 instead of a clipper to trim a bit before the real final limiter ? ;)
@panorama_mastering2 жыл бұрын
Well; interestingly enough; you might want to explore this video on how fabfilter pro-l2 has a clipper stage in it's actual process based on the attack time; kzbin.info/www/bejne/gWfKeoiFa9aSaac
@DjkopiN Жыл бұрын
thank you For this video
@panorama_mastering Жыл бұрын
My pleasure!
@voodoochili12 Жыл бұрын
When you are making EQ and compression changes, is ProTools tracking those changes as automation? Does anyone know how to achieve this same workflow in Logic? Thanks!
@panorama_mastering Жыл бұрын
Could you give me a time marker to reference for this?
@voodoochili12 Жыл бұрын
@@panorama_mastering Sure thing - at 15:37 and 20:40, a 'marquee' selection is made, and changes to compression and EQ are dialed in, respectively. My assumption is that upon playback, those changes are locked into the selected range. In my experience in Logic, this would entail creating automation lanes and creating fiddly start and end points of the individual automation parameters.
@panorama_mastering Жыл бұрын
OH ! thankyou for that clarification; NO! that is not dialing in any automation what-so-ever; I'm just auditioning the loudest most intense parts of the tracks to help me set my compression;
@CoolDali2 жыл бұрын
Is it better to use another converter to bring to 44.1k 16 bit or just use pro tools converter?
@panorama_mastering2 жыл бұрын
Good question; the SRC (Sample rate converter) standard in protools is perfectly fine; Depending on the assets needed to deliver for a project; (E.g I'm starting at 96k native) for a client's session I will use iZotope Audio Editor's SRC not for anything other than I can batch there on larger projects when exporting multiple formats;
@claragary Жыл бұрын
What’s pulling me away? The singer😂 just a joke. Great video, thanks!
@MYPSYAI5 ай бұрын
😂 step one, get a notch filter. Optionally, you could just dl ripx
@gdanila5 ай бұрын
Vocal is sitting too low in the speakers and overpowers the bass guitar. The only thing that bugs me. Otherwise, great mix
@FinnJain4 ай бұрын
6:46 bypross
@sigurtsigurt5492 жыл бұрын
why not use normalisation to -6db ?
@panorama_mastering2 жыл бұрын
Force of habit checking where that peak level is as I'm always checking for crest factor as well... for more advanced mastering techniques/managing overall loudness;
@KidKyroOffical Жыл бұрын
Bruh who going on tinder for masters 😂😂😂
@MOSMASTERING Жыл бұрын
Is is me or does song have a car horn in it ? Good track though!
@KNOWLEDGETHEMYSFYT9 ай бұрын
lol
@oinkooink Жыл бұрын
Try to keep your arms a bit more still
@phoenixrize2411 Жыл бұрын
My man...nice video... But you talk too much... Get to the point.. 🥱🥹
@panorama_mastering Жыл бұрын
Yeap! I feel you; I've refined my style for presenting in most recent videos;