Every Street Fighter: The Storytelling Game Release 1994-1995... and 1999

[@sydneycardew1923]

You know you've played too much Call of Cthulhu when "Vega kills the entire party" seems like a perfectly reasonable GM instruction.

[@Chronoplague]

That first adventure ending with the players providing backup to a significantly stronger and more important character sounds like such an amatuer gm's idea of a good story climax.

[@RexDartEskimoSpy]

It was pretty typical of how White Wolf did things too. There was a lot of "Watch as the powerful characters we wrote do things while you're unable to do anything to them!" in the writing of all their games back then. So, in a sense, this is an improvement. Not much of one though.

[@timothymclean]

To be fair, it's an entirely reasonable act 1 sub-climax...for a less interactive medium, if you plan to actually write acts 2 and 3. It shows how far the main character(s) have to go, making it all the more meaningful when they surpass the overwhelming antagonist, without actually letting them get overwhelmed by the antagonist. Of course, for this to work in a TRPG setting, you need to give the PCs something to do. Letting the PCs collectively control the friendly NPC is a...unique choice, but I don't think it's very effective at solving the problem. Doubly so if the PCs have no particular relationship with Guile. It's one thing if their master sacrifices himself to let them escape, but it's another if Some Dude overshadows the PCs in their own story.

[@alexandreturcotte6411]

Wouldn't surprise me if the Brazilian expansions have something to do with the Brazilian Street Fighter comics (Ditto for the Megaman and Mortal Kombat ones). [Do some research] Well the issue of the Dragao magazine I find first on the internet archive has an editor in common; Marcelo Cassaro. The Street Fighter wiki says he stepped down of his role of editor for the brazillian Street Fighter comic after issue 5, then created the Dragao Brazil magazine in 1995. I do remember from St1ka's videos on this "scene" of Brazilian/Portuguese comics in the 90 that there's some shared artists betwen those series... All I'll say is that this rabbithole's a bit wild. Excellent video!

[@DPLEET]

In Street Fighter Alpha 3 he refers to himself by the full title of Master Bison ("Vega-sama" in the Japanese version), with Cammy and the Dolls referring to him in the same way as well. Despite M. Bison's followers (and himself) referring to him as "Master Bison" in Street Fighter Alpha 3, he is named "Lord Bison" in his Arcade mode introduction sequence in Street Fighter IV.

[@zigmenthotep]

Okay, but he could still be Master/Lord Mike Bison.

[@StarkMaximum]

@@zigmenthotep I've always heard it was "Major Bison". Still doesn't contradict a potential Major Michael Bison.

[@kalajel]

@@StarkMaximum Maurice Bison

[@vladt7150]

20:54 Just to clarify: the Shikomi-Zue entry is NOT in error - it is essentially a "Ninja Sword Cane", consisting of a hollowed-out Bamboo or Wooden "walking cane", which conceals a short sword or spear that can be unsheathed; hence, the attacker can use the drawn blade as a weapon, and can use the cane/shaft as either a second weapon, or as a means to block or deflect incoming blows (depending on the user's skill, and how strong/reinforced the cane shaft is). That's why the entry has the following "shaft" and "blade" dot points on the table. Now, as to why the Shikomi-Zue's Shaft is denoted as using the "Staff" Technique for it's function, while the actual *Staff* entry is blank....well, that's just "White Wolf Editing Magic" , init? 🤷‍♂️😉

[@mizublackriver7021]

I find interesting how 'Panic at the Dojo' kinda borrows some of the mechanics, intentionally or not, of SF TSM. I would love if you would take a look at it!

[@WilliamHostman]

at 10:14, you missed a major typo... "A thirty-degree turn (one hex side)[...]" a hex side is 60°. The online scans I've got match the dead tree I also have. I can't find the WW PDF of the missing maps, nor the interface with the WoD. The complete list of maneuvers is actually the most useful part of the GM screen. (I say this having run two campaigns). The online pirate consolidation is great. But given that the IP license is expired.... it's the only way to get it without selling organs...

[@nilus2k]

Got me excited when you said that the secondary market for these was on the high end. I got a compete set with a few extras somewhere in the “library” storage. But on eBay I see them going for like $50 which isn’t “Dig through boxes in the basement” level of cost. It was “Dune: Chronicles of the Imperium” money.

[@ryanmrich]

I own all of the books except Mexico (I never saw it) and the screen. Was a big part of High School gaming group. Kylie Minogue was at GenCon and signed the core book for me as Cammy.

[@rory7590]

When are you going to generate a character for Traveller?

[@moviefan752]

Love your videos. You always go in depth and are very fair with systems even when those systems have no right to such treatment.

[@DemiGodzilla0]

I always love to see more videos of this type.

[@killroy7917]

Woooo! Sequal to my favorite video in my favorite style? Series? I love these post-mortem retrospectives. And I love your coverage of street fighter

[@cazao24]

You really should do 3D&T. A very easy to learn system, made very popular in the 90's by the efforts of Dragão Brasil magazine.

[@zigmenthotep]

I would like to, however the language barrier is an issue. I was thinking of running one of the shorter adaptations through Google Translate and seeing if it's understandable. I mean, a poorly-translated game can't be that much worse than a poorly-written one.

[@Rodrigok1k0]

​@@zigmenthotep Yo! I support the 3d&t idea! And could help with the portuguese translation, if you want the help. Street Fighter RPG was big in Brazil in the 00's . Both in the storyteller's system and in 3d&t.

[@notachannel447]

Vocês vão matar o cara, só o atributo Habilidade tem trocentas versões XD

[@MacKravitz]

I desperately wanted to run an adventure where various Street Fighter characters slowly came to realize the tourney they were fighting in had been organized by a Setite who wanted to corrupt them all. Never came to pass, sadly.

[@Lazysupermutant]

*Me shouldering my shovel* "Ah a fellow TTRPG grave robber, good evening sir! Kindly help me with this coffin would you?"

[@ConspiracyOpossum]

I loved this game was a lot of fun . Also used the combat book. Also there is an eastern wod book with shin who are basically street fighters

[@angelg9070]

Thanks!

[@zigmenthotep]

And thank you too!

[@tipulsar85]

I am now obligated to make the following referential joke: "This is the song written for the train chase. This is the fight of Rocky and Ken... He tried to kill me with a forklift, huzzah!"

[@CastironWhisky]

Certified Forklift Operators Unite!

[@zidarose]

I loved the WoD combat book and always wanted to do a tournament. Knowing it came from a Street Fighter TTRPG has me wanting to chase down the books myself.

[@StarkMaximum]

Finally, I can play out my dream game: Street Fighter 2 But Also Dracula And Wolfman Are There

[@johneppley9615]

this is the most important video ever made

[@nilus2k]

Goes without saying with my other comment that my group played this in the 90s a bit. Never an ongoing campaign but it got busted out for random one shots or when someone wanted to really screw with the storyteller running a Vampire game that says “you can use other White Wolf books to make characters” What we did use is combat for a long running Werewolf RPG. It seemed to help that game run combat better then the base rule set.

[@MrBrothasky]

Funnily enough, White Wolf added the combat system as an optional rule in their World of Darkness Combat supplement book.

[@MrBrothasky]

Haha. Didn't see the reference in video.

[@anthonyross1405]

The Secrets of Shadoloo does have the maps in the back. I own the physical book and checked right now to see.

[@RexDartEskimoSpy]

White Wolf did later try to expand fighting styles again, this time in their usual semi-compatible with other systems sort of way. When they made Kindred of the East, that book included a Martial Arts skill, with a few associated fighting styles that you could take maneuvers from. It cost more points than the Brawl skill, but for that extra XP you got a lower difficulty on some attack rolls, depending on your style, in addition to getting 5 techniques a character can use. It worked fine with the existing combat system, but I don't know how many people ended up actually using any of the content from that line.

[@ringo2715]

Been watching a lot of your videos and I'm kind of left with the question. Do you like anything?

[@Lazysupermutant]

Hunter the Vigil actually does what you brought up during combat! Unlike in Reckoning you're just a dude, no imbued powers. You do have tricks, things that help you get a leg up on the things in the world of darkness

[@SirExal]

This is the song written for the sourcebook This is the song of OC and Ken They try to kill you with a forklift, olé!

[@chakravant]

Almost all WW books before Y2000 (and more than a few supplements after that): - NPCs outside all possible character scale - Typos - Softcover - Material cut to make the book printable - No polishing after the cut material - See page XXX - or the page with a random full-page picture. Also, with probable exception of Exalted (which was after Y2K so I'm not sure if it counts) the characters built in any Storyteller game seem to be on the virtual "level 1", or max "level 3". And levelling is harder than in WFRP. And not always possible (generation in Vampire for example).

[@Painocus]

I'm still not over that Capcom and White Wolf were also working on marketing one of the Darkstalkers games as a World of Darkness spin-off and these two projects in no way interacted. Making a Darkstalkers supplement or version feels like such a no-brainer. It's be an easy way to bridge the Street Fighter game and White Wolf's other games by allowing more cross-pollination ("you want to play a werewolf fighter? you can get ideas for how to play a werewolf from...") encoring at-least some people who might be more interested in one or the other to maybe check out the other stuff. And Darkstalkers feels like a more logical fit for WhiteWolf's player base and also for the SF:TSG's own wacky anything-does kitchen-sink mixed both 90's edgy while at the same time not taking itself as seriously as something like the actual WoD. Some of the stuff here and in Combat, like bite-attacks, animal-claw attacks, elementals, animal hybrids, cybernetic/robotic attacks and so on really feel like they were made with Darkstalkers in mind rather than Street Fighter. Even the whole issue of the game being designed for fighting tournaments, but the game seemingly expecting you to do other things I feel would be less of a problem with Darkstalkers, since the setting and lore is set up to make tournamentesque fights happen between characters, without it being an actual tournament (and also their fighting moves would have more out-of-battle applicability). It wouldn't surprise me if some of this was actually made for, or in anticipation of, a Darkstalkers RPG/supplement and that this game maybe not selling as well as Capcom/White Wolf had expected lead to that's cancellation (and possibly having some of it's content turned into Combat?) as well as maybe the whole marketing-Darkstalkers-as-a-WoD-tie-in thing quickly dying with a whimper, although that didn't happened until 1997. Hell I wouldn't even be that surprised if the whole game was initially developed as a tie in with the first Darkstalkers game which came out just shy of a month after (and had, I think, a lot more input from the western side of Capcom than previous SF games), but Capcom or White Wolf felt Street Fighter would be a safer bet and changed it during development. Or something like that. (Also it just now hit me that I may have left almost the exact same comment on the last video you did on SF:TSG).

[@nimkiibineshi24049]

They call him Master Bison iirc but it's funny thinking he's named Mike Bison too

[@khyron1144]

I'd love to see what you have to say about the Animal Hybrid and Elemental stuff.

[@notachannel447]

Also...to this day... there is a Fan-made online Magazine called "Punho do Guerreiro" (Warrior's Fist) made by Brazillians

[@beesbeesingtonvi614]

I am the same age as the Street Fighter RPG

[@venom66656]

Maybe there's room for videos on zombie games? Dead games that are kept alive by fans?

[@zigmenthotep]

I did originally go over the various fan project's in this video, but it got cut for time and relevance.

[@JeremyLevi]

I think you missed the core appeal of this game which is it is canonically set in the shared World of Darkness setting. For a brief shining moment before Game Masters fully understood the ramifications of allowing these characters outside of their meta box there was no better published White Wolf material for completely trolling your GM. There is no greater joy than the look on your GMs face when you rip an elder vampire's head off with your bare hands, or when they realize that the only damage type that actually deals aggravated damage to you (except via overflow damage of your excessive amount of health boxes) is god dang frickin' lasers.

[@chakravant]

Also: Player's Guides, a.k.a. let's do a book with a few Inphobia articles about how to play / gamemaster the game and all stuff we couldn't fit in the main book. In modern term - the paid DLC.

[@clarissejunqueira1994]

i guess this could be fun, i may give it a try, but i would probably just do 1v1 fights, cuz like, if i am going to make an adventure with this, idk how i would go about it XD

[@KidK32]

I had all the books. Still have the Core book others got stolen in the 90's. It was a Gateway game that got me into the Storytelling Games. Lol We made a Grab version Repeating Fireball to act as Raging Demon .

[@JunAoi]

One of the references in the lexicon of the book says 'Babality Fatality' on a page that doesn't exist. Like the old Malkavian sourcebook. Source: Yes I owned this book.

[@Gaigaia]

Hei, I'm Gaigaia, a brazilian rpg youtuber. If you'd like, we could talk a bit about brazilian rpgs. I can tell you about 3det (a new edition was published in 2024, marking 30 years of the system) and can talk more about SF rpg, which has a cult following here with many supplements up to date with SF V.

[@Malcadon]

Great review! Dragão Brasil is a whole rabbit hole I fell into years ago after learning about the insanity that was Novas Aventuras de Megaman (New Adventure of Mega Man) and its. . . . an experience. Mind you, due to the close cultural ties with Japan, Brazil embraced anime and manga well before mainstream America and it had a huge impact on their content. The biggest setting worth checking out for 3D&T is Tormenta (Storm), based on the manga Holy Avenger, that centers around Valkaria---a huge city built around a massive mile-high statue of a nude petrified goddess. (Being the product of Brazil, expect big boobs on everything.) By the way, the Mega Man RPG and it is dirt-simple, although the skill system noted in the rules is a lie!

[@MattiaBulgarelli]

I wonder if anyone ever played this. Yes, including playtesters, if they ever existed.

[@cariocaemfuria3946]

Well, of course initial characters are not as strong as the World Class Warriors like Ryu, Ken and Chun Li. This is like wanting your 1st level D&D character to be as powerful as Drizzt Do'Urden and Elminster.

[@StarkMaximum]

You can talk about the Street Fighter Storytelling Game as much as you want. I find it endlessly fascinating and that perfect balance between bad, weird, and good that I think requires extensive study and preservation! That said, your flumph avatar having a moving mouth is very distracting and deeply upsetting, even if it may be morphologically accurate (I am not aware enough on the flumph's anatomy to criticize).