Every Time THE ACOLYTE Broke Canon (...or didn’t?)

[@definitelynotabot1743]

The ugly clickbait thumbnail is on point

[@Geekritique]

Hahaha! Thank you, that was what I was going for

[@theswan1852]

@@Geekritique I saw that guy who hates everything and almost blocked this channel. Good thing I looked further.

[@Geekritique]

Glad you checked haha

[@darththor3982]

special editions ruined Star Wars, the PT ruined Star Wars, the ST ruined Star Wars, the shows ruined Star Wars, a series will finally ruin Star Wars once and for all until a new series ruins Star Wars. This is what a certain section of the fan base sounds like.

[@Geekritique]

😂 Love this perspective. You’re right.

[@Iwillone]

As Honest Trailers pointed out.

[@MysticTroll]

The Star Wars Holiday Special saved Star Wars.

[@stoves5877]

it's funny how much they say that and how each new entry into Star Wars is the worst thing ever when the first new Star Wars after ANH was the Holiday Special. Nothing has even come close to how bad the Holiday Special was.

[@maskerriz2616]

Too true! My philosophy is if you dont like it then simply dont watch it, dont even class it as part of your personal canon if you hate it that much 😂 but why try and ruin it for people who do like it? People today can be unbelievably stupid

[@chocolatebar6785]

normal people: osha sees fire, fire gives flashbacks of a forest fire, the next scene is a youngling talking about fire fire must be a motif for the darkside and its influence culture war conspiracy theorist: osha sees fire, fire is in space, fire in space is unrealistic the writers/directors must be inexperienced to not know that you cant have fire in space despite the 4 decades of movies/shows of fire being in space fire cant possibly serve any symbolic or stylistic purpose also ofc starwars must be a sci fi because its set in space and sci fis must all be hyper realistic

[@Geekritique]

They just want something to be mad at, cause it pays the bills.

[@chocolatebar6785]

@@Geekritique ^^

[@chronicguardian9684]

Star Wars is best described as Science Fantasy: there's a good margin for "rule of cool" baked in, but it's also got to have room for the mysticism of the force.

[@rhodrage]

A force choke is such a simple thing, that it makes sense that people have been doing it for years.

[@Geekritique]

Yep! Exactly.

[@psecretpseudonym4801]

Agreed, but that’s what also made it feel sort of odd that it was hinted at like some sort of mystery and revealed like it was something special. Mae and Qimir seemed to discuss how killing without a weapon seemed implausible… I was expecting Osha to become overcome by emotion and release force lighting, mortally wounding Sol, leaving her conflicted over whether she had truly intended to do so and letting him forgive her as a final act.

[@Geekritique]

That would have been very cool.

[@petertaylor4758]

But sadly Jedi don't force choke living things, only robots.. force choke is a bad person's weapon

[@Geekritique]

That’s not necessarily true. Force chokes come inherently to young force users. Where else would Grogu have learned how to Force Choke if it doesn’t come naturally.

[@harrisonhemsworth161]

Love the video! Very informative and it’s great to see someone who still passionately loves and cares about Star Wars as the fandom is very divided and in a much different place then it used to be. Keep up the good work 👍

[@Geekritique]

Thank you very much! I’m glad to share some level-headed criticism and love to a franchise I care deeply about.

[@apryllbrown3582]

Anakin couldn't bleed his crystal anyway because Luke gets his blue lightsaber in episode 4. It wouldnt be consistent with the OT.

[@Geekritique]

Bingo.

[@MartoLun]

I suspect the crystal being stolen may be a pre-requisite for bleeding. Perhaps Anakin's old saber was still too imbued with his light side to be bled. I'm not familiar with the Jedi Survivor example, though. Was that one also stolen from a different user?

[@fduranthesee]

just bleed it then when Obi gets it and passes it, unbleed it? simple?

[@Geekritique]

If you unbleed a red kyber it turns white. That’s how Ahsoka got hers. She bled out two red crystals from an inquisitor she killed.

[@Doddser]

This is a terrible argument in defense of the show. A show made to be set in a pre-established universe must follow that which came before it if it is to maintain consistency. The argument "Anakin couldn't because Episode 4 already existed" is nonsensical because you're acting as if the new show is the rule, rather than the other way around. What you're doing is defending a meta reason rather than looking at the internal writing consistency of the universe. If Anakin couldn't bleed his crystal when he was literally murdering children, regardless of the meta context, then others in the universe shouldn't be able to either. It'd be like if they made a new show where suddenly every Jedi has the ability to grow up to fifty feet tall, and we say it's alright because "the other shows were written first so they didn't know jedi could do that". Consistency falls on the part of the most current writer, and if you break that consistency no meta reason can excuse that. If Osha can bleed her crystal, Anakin should have (in universe) as well. We now have to question IN UNIVERSE why that didn't happen.

[@aarongriffiths-nq3qe]

Similar to the fact that the clones went crazy in a new hope, however in the clone wars they were following order 66 through a chip in there head. Or the fact later that they were completely replaced by humans and retired quietly and ended up pan handling on the street.

[@mrmeteor64]

They say the word hell in other Star Wars media and in Star Wars legends they had a sith hell.

[@Geekritique]

Yeah, it’s a very common phrase.

[@RoguePlutonia]

In the thrawn trilogy by Timothy Zahn while Luke is on Coruscant, he's literally drinking hot chocolate, something that Lando bought him. These books are non-canon. Now that's something that pulls ppl out of the story

[@richardd5645]

Jedi council: Chancelor Palpatine, we see you have added Cortosis to all the clonetrooper armour, is there a reason you think the Jedi are going to attack the clones? Plapatine: oh….no reason. Vader to Imperial officer: The emperor has permanently dissolved the senate after they complained about the cost of adding Cortosis to Stormtrooper armour. Apparently, they could not understand why they were spending money to protect troopers from a non-existent enemy but not weapons more dangerous than sharpened bits of fruit.

[@Geekritique]

Lmao oh this is a great thought experiment. 🤣

[@MysticTroll]

Slug Thrower: I'm going to ruin this whole man's Cortosis career

[@frogoat]

This is so good to see, all laid out and sensibly considered.

[@Geekritique]

Thank you! Good you enjoyed it!

[@diggdirkler9445]

The pacing is absolutely my biggest criticism of the series Also point 4. Many jedi dont even believe in the prophecies both in legends and canon, (the prophecy was actually in either padawan or jedi lost) so the prophecy is canon but many jedi dont believe it

[@Geekritique]

Agreed. Sometimes it moves from one scene to whole days later too fast, and next it slows to a crawl and wants to give you another flashback ep.

[@diggdirkler9445]

​@@Geekritique yea I enjoyed a few episodes and the characters but it was honestly almost a slog to get through because of the pacing

[@MFBugsBunnyy94]

Im late but after watching 11 minutes and 31 seconds of this. I realized that you are literally throwing out logic from the argument so your points can make sense. You are rewriting the lore pretty much. Your first 6 points, make no sense. I couldn’t bring myself to watch the rest if the first 6 are this bad at trying ,desperately trying to make the show fit in the starwars lore. My realization came after you tried to convince everyone that the force has been called multiple names when literally EVERYONE in all the movies, has always called it one. THE FORCE! And my final point, are you telling me, your theory of the twins being so evil, more evil than Darth Plagueis and Darth Sidious combined. Is why the chosen one was born. Is just fucking ridiculous. If this character is so evil,why is she having a change of heart in the middle of her journey to becoming a sith. You are a fucking people pleaser that’s too scared to hurt anyone’s feelings. I was excited to watch this video but you’re trying to feed me 😊a shit sandwich. Fuck no,Holy fuck was starwars theory right. I watched his videos before i watched this.

[@lteelana]

I tend not to click on videos like this, cause the algorithm tends to flood my timeline with videos from The Fandom Menace, but I recently found you from your timeline videos and thought "they seem like a rational, sane, individual when it comes to fandoms..." So here I am. Thank you for this. I get it if The Acolyte wasn't someone's cup of tea, but the arguments these folks put forward are - as you so eloquently highlighted in the video - just ridiculous. The confirmation bias is strong with these arguments. I remember when the fan base hated Lucas during the prequel era. They were mad that the creator of Star Wars, made changes to his own Canon. How dare he? 😂 Frankly, the Star Wars Canon prior to Disney was a bit of a mess, in my opinion. I believe there were even tiers for what was considered Canon. I welcomed Disney's "soft reboot" so to speak.

[@Geekritique]

I’m very glad you did click on this video. (Sorry, was trying to make it look like a Fandom Menace video to draw in the people who’d normally click on that sort of thing.) I totally agree, just because you don’t like something doesn’t mean your criticism needs to devolve into madness haha.

[@joshuafrazier3904]

That my main issue personally. Its that people are critiquing for petty things like this and not the actual genuine flaws that makes sense the show bad.

[@moneyandbones]

Subscribed! As an OG fan who burnt through the 48 novels released before TPM, I would love for Star Wars Theory to recognise that nothing broke his precious lore in so many ways than his beloved prequel trilogy.

[@Geekritique]

Thanks for subscribing. And yeah, those early novels were just irrevocably decanonized haha

[@VOLUMEnightclub]

Clearly you don’t watch SWT…this was quite a bad faith video…the main issue of acolyte was the ridiculously bad writing, plot conscience…”Jedi bad”. This video doesn’t live in the real world didn’t address much of the core issues. And even got basic information wrong 😂

[@Geekritique]

The thing is, I’m not arguing that the show is good. I’m arguing against creating fake narratives to push the idea that it breaks canon. What is the “basic information” that I got wrong?

[@richardd5645]

People see what they want to see. If you’ve heard from social media that the show runners have an agenda, you will go into the show looking for that agenda, even if you perhaps don’t believe that they do. Humans are easily influenced, just look at Peter Kay's misheard lyrics sketch; you know that’s not what they are singing but because he has told to you what to hear, that’s what you hear. It’s a real world problem (and our addiction to social media) that extends to way more important things than Star Wars.

[@keyshawnwatkins4362]

I appreciate the fact that, even though you had problems with The Acolyte (which is completely fine and valid as nothing is free of criticism), you still took the time to explain why the show doesn’t break canon and that some people are watching it not off the basis of what the show is adding to the lore, but what in their eyes, is taking away from it. I’m not saying that Disney’s Star Wars projects shouldn’t be criticized. They absolutely should. Criticism is necessary for stories to improve and have better writing and development. But, there’s a difference between creative criticism and hating on something simply because you hate the company that owns the thing you love. I feel like the people who are the most vocal about hating any Disney-released Star Wars project are those who are still mad that Legends is no longer considered canon to the franchise. And that anything that contradicts what was established in Legends is Disney disrespecting prior material or “shitting on George’s work”. Which is ironic considering that even George himself contradicted Legends with The Clone Wars. The fact is: Disney and Lucasfilm are not required to adapt anything from Legends to an exact letter. They are well within their rights to adapt whatever they want from Legends, bring it into Canon, and ignore what they don’t want to use. Similar to how Marvel Studios uses the comics to make the MCU films and shows. If we’re gonna criticize Star Wars, it’s gonna be because of writing, directing, or cinematography. Not because of “lesbian space witches” or “Disney hates white men” (which they don’t). There’s no agenda being pushed, Disney isn’t invalidating George’s work, and their shows are Not. Breaking. Canon! 👏🏽 Anyways, thank you for making this video. This was really helpful and needed to break those “broken canon” arguments.

[@Geekritique]

Excellent comment. Very thoughtful and honest. Thank you! I agree, Lucasfilm shouldn’t have to adapt prior stories exactly like people saw them playing out in their heads to still make good content. And nothing is free from criticism!

[@thelukeofficial9626]

The thing is there are some realistic answers, but it doesn’t matter what the answers are because it’s change and people don’t like change

[@Geekritique]

Like I said in point 19: “Instead of watching a new canon entry in a franchise they enjoy and approaching it with the mindset of “how is this going to add to what came before,” they’ve got their guards up and are instead only thinking “how is this subtracting from what I love?”

[@bobisuncanny2760]

Funilly enough you're one of the only channel on youtube that made a positive The Acolyte video

[@Geekritique]

Criticism is important. It helps the creatives behind stuff like this to gauge what to fix in the future. I have many criticisms of the Acolyte. It’s not perfect, and I mention that plenty in this video. But if I ever sell out to blind negativity and irrational hate, I’d have lost my core beliefs as a creator and I would stop making videos altogether.

[@bobisuncanny2760]

@@Geekritique Internet needs more people like you

[@Geekritique]

@bobisuncanny2760 Thank you! Have a great day.

[@filmobsessednerd]

The quote that I will go to live by moving forward when addressing grifters online is this one here from Jason Schreier, "You are chasing angry hallucinations created by grifters who make money off your rage." Truly could not have said it better than that and this is coming from someone who actually views The Acolyte as my least favorite live action Star Wars show. At the same time I didn't find it absolutely horrendous and a blow to the fabric of society. I just saw the movie Madame Web for the first time believe me I know what HORRIBLE looks like when I see it lol. When it comes to the lore and canon stuff, this is something that will never not be something fans complain about. They did it with George multiple times during the prequels and even with the Clone Wars stuff. Filoni has gotten a lot of it too, book authors of the old Luke books and even here now in the Disney era with other creators. This is not new and fans just have to understand... I appreciate you making this video because it should help prove a lot of people wrong for how they use their platform as a weapon based off that quote I put up above.

[@Geekritique]

Excellent response. I hadn’t heard that quote before. But you’re totally correct, the question of canonicity has been raised for as long as Star Wars has had sequels. 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@Oceankage]

Dude thank you.

[@richardd5645]

We live in a world where a lot of people access news through Social Media. News that is actually only really gossip, because that drives up engagement which is in turn monitezed. Maybe some channels are genuine, maybe not, but we are bombarded with it because the platforms encourage and promote such content. The intenet has ceased to be a useful tool of "what the fans really think".

[@Geekritique]

That’s a great way to look at it, sad as that reality is. Just a collection of echo chambers and monetized confirmation bias. 😞

[@filmobsessednerd]

@@richardd5645 yes you’re correct. It has turned into a place where instead of getting what people truly feel, you get potentially a more misconstrued view of things because it’s more beneficial to think a certain way in order for KZbin to prioritize your videos and recommending them. I keep my circle very small now when it comes to trusting certain creators who I know aren’t phoning it in anymore and actually make passionate content.

[@SAVarXX]

Actually for #10 we learn the answer to that really in the true flashback and the finale. He can't tell them apart because they aren't twins; They're the same person in two bodies. He mistakes them several times prior to this as well. He seemingly can't properly read their thoughts the same way due to the shared soul thing.

[@Geekritique]

You’re definitely right.

[@gman3901]

He shouldn't need to read thoughts, Mae has a massive symbol on her forehead that Osha doesn't.

[@Geekritique]

@gman3901 Which she hid from him, as was shown on screen.

[@gman3901]

@@Geekritique They didn't 'show' her hide it at all. They expected us to believe her fringe of braids made it impossible to see. I couldn't care less about Star Wars canon since the prequels. They just need to make better shows than this. Debunking the breaking of 'lore' with the mess that is Disney canon is giving a terrible show credit it doesn't deserve.

[@Geekritique]

Her hair covered at least 90% of the mark at all times during the moments she pretended to be Osha. I’d consider that a conscious effort on her (and the show’s) part, considering in all other scenes it’s far more prominent. Regardless of whether this show is the best or worst thing ever, genuine criticism will always be more valuable than bad faith criticism, misunderstandings, and outright lies. I don’t care if you like the show or not, holding those who spread dumb criticism accountable for lies they’ve led others to believe has value. As many of the comments here will attest to.

[@shaunblake2215]

28:58 - I must say I've got this feeling that these type of people have their guard up this way not just about Star Wars but anything Disney produces at the moment. These reactions have also been regularly occurring on Twitter from these types of people on movies like Wish and Marvel movies as well, especially The Marvels, and to a lesser degree Madame Web. While I'm not saying they are perfect films (Madame Web certainly not in particular) these people seem to be thinking Disney has some agenda to "ruin their childhoods" or something by making all protagonists become people THEY don't identify with.

[@Geekritique]

I’ve noticed that, but to see it explained so vulnerably in this moment made most of their criticism for this show snap into place.

[@fondercarton533]

​@@Geekritique fr, I even liked the acolyte, ok not the peak of star wars but it was really interesting. And the s2 got even canceled😮‍💨

[@HoldoPod]

You have been granted the rank of master AND added to the council. Well done Dakota. If only more of the fandom would make measured responses & thoughtful discussions around things that they say that they love rather than bad faith criticisms.

[@Geekritique]

Haha, thank you. What an honor 😭

[@delvinindaryn561]

I really appreciate you making this video! I actually really enjoyed watching Acolyte, and it’s annoying when people make such stupid arguments about it ‘breaking canon’. Thanks for going through the different examples, I was starting to wonder why so few people seem to understand these things. This video is well done and your points are well said!

[@Geekritique]

I’m really glad I made it and that you (and many others) are enjoying it so much.

[@joshuafrazier3904]

I mean it does considering one character is an adult before he should even be born but you know no one really talks about that even though its the easiest thing to poke fun at. I'm happy you managed to enjoy this show somehow because I… I mean I enjoyed episode five and eight. That was about it but hey you found value where I couldn't so good on you!!!

[@delvinindaryn561]

@@joshuafrazier3904 If you’re talking about Ki Adi Mundi then you obviously haven’t watched the video lol

[@Geekritique]

Yeah, there’s quite a big section dedicated to the age of Ki-Adi-Mundi.

[@brunopereira6789]

It's sad to see how far Star Wars Theory has fallen. I used to enjoy his content.

[@Geekritique]

I definitely agree.

[@brunopereira6789]

@@Geekritique same for Shadiversity :(

[@VOLUMEnightclub]

@@Geekritiquelol..insult SWT but also want him to live stream your video 😂

[@Geekritique]

Yes, use his own words, and then explain how it doesn’t make sense. I’d love to see a live reaction to that.

[@chronicguardian9684]

Speaking to point 6: You're missing the point entirely and opting for condescension, bad form. Mundi, who has been shoehorned (and yes, as this is a century before and there was nothing forcing him to be included, I will say he is shoehorned) into the conversation by poor writing decisions, is the one who establishes the Jedi understanding that the Sith have been extinct for a millennia. Mundi is now present during an incident with a dark force user. This implies Mundi either wasn't paying attention to the events he has been shoehorned into (neglect), that he wholly swallows whatever coverup story Vernestra cooks up (incompetence, as it requires not following up with any of the evidence or witnesses), or that he is complicit in the coverup (corruption). In keeping with the rest of this video, I will note none of these are technically breaking canon. However, they do open up additional questions of what the heck is going on with this guy. Was that Headland's intention? Perhaps. Maybe it is addressed in Season 2 or ties into something Clone Wars that I haven't seen (I will fully admit this possibility). However, the point of the original post was simply that the very individual who claimed ignorance to the Sith's continued existence was now shown to be involved, thus breaking the assumption that he was acting in good faith in the original. Maybe not canon breaking, but kind of a weird hill to die on?

[@Geekritique]

I personally don’t believe he’s acting in good faith in the original, as per the faces Yoda and Windu give each other after his line is delivered.

[@2QAYL1138]

​@Geekritique Isn't the point of KAM saying the Sith were extinct a sincere belief that showed the genuine blindness of the Jedi to Sith dealings from the get-go? Yoda has no reason to tell KAM what V tells him (KAM wasn't a high council member at the time), which isn't even that there's a Sith out there, only that there's a lightsaber-wielding killer. KAM is in The Acolyte because of what he represents in TPM, the arrogance of the Jedi believing the Sith couldn't rise without their permission. The point is that KAM couldn't conceive of the Sith returning in spite of his experience being aware of someone in his lifetime succeeding in killing several Jedi in a short span of time even though the Jedi seemed to him to be in control.

[@Geekritique]

That’s a good read on Mundi’s narrative purpose, yeah.

[@chronicguardian9684]

@@2QAYL1138 My point is that KAM's confidence makes more sense if he isn't around for this suspicious incident. It would make fewer headaches if we just had a character who shared his attitude instead of having the same character duped twice.

[@2QAYL1138]

@chronicguardian9684 So to rephrase your question, you're asking, "Why did they have to directly connect TPM with this show that's being made for the express purpose of directly connecting to TPM?" (It was promoted as "the prequel to the prequels.") I understand wanting The Acolyte to not touch anything else & steer clear of TPM because you think it's sacred text or something, & for Jedi to behave, shall we say, more sensibly, but that's not who they were at that point, & KAM embodies that idea by his dismissal of a rising Sith in TPM. That famous line in TPM doesn't establish anything true that The Acolyte breaks because we know well before he says it that he's simply wrong. He is a thematic link that no other Jedi could have represented better, because we already know what he's about as soon as he appears in The Acolyte. He's in The Acolyte BECAUSE of what he said in TPM, not in spite of or in conflict with it. The Jedi didn't become what they were in TPM overnight. They were struggling for a while before TPM. They couldn't sense Dooku turning dark. The were oblivious to any danger from Palpatine. The Acolyte shows how friction with some senators snowballed into a cover-up, which only begins to tarnish the Jedi's reputation because they were still able to cover up the worst part, that there is still a threat out there that could continue to threaten the Jedi's standing just by existing. If you were expecting see the Jedi make better decisions or be an unshakeable bastion of goodness, a show sold as being from the point of view of the Sith isn't the place for that.

[@Ne0Nights]

my fav youtuber fr fr

[@Geekritique]

Thank you 🙏

[@chronicguardian9684]

Speaking to point 1: how long is the blade of that knife? Is it reasonable that this length, appearing to enter mainly in breast tissue, will puncture and stop the heart? Not saying these questions can't be answered, but if you're going for the full debunk, debunk it all the way.

[@Geekritique]

Based on the other blades thrown, probably somewhere between 3.5-5” of actual blade. I believe that would be enough to hit the heart.

[@rayjenkins7211]

kinda irrelevant to this video but any updates/news on the next mcu timeline update happening anytime soon?

[@Geekritique]

My current plan is to release it alongside Captain America: Brave New World.

[@jt3enigma]

Would love to see more videos like this!

[@Geekritique]

There’s only so much stupidity a guy can subject himself to. 😭 Maybe after the next Star Wars show, who knows.

[@diggdirkler9445]

Point 9, she held her own for maybe a few seconds Point 13, how the hell is even a rational comparison? These disney haters and legends glazer reach like crazy

[@Geekritique]

Point 13 had my jaw on the floor when I read it.

[@chronicguardian9684]

Speaking to point 7: Why would the council lie to Qui-Gon if he is claiming to have met a Sith in the flesh if they are aware the Sith are still around? Telling people to disbelieve their lying eyes seems like a recipe for disaster but... I'll grant it's not outside the realm of possibility. Just because something is stupid doesn't mean it won't be done and this does match with the picture of hubris meant to be painted about the order. As for knowing about the rule of 2, it makes the most sense that this is something learned from a recovered holocron and not from an actual encounter with the surviving Sith order. Can you imagine that as a conversation? "Hey! Are there any more of you out there?" "No, we only ever have two people now: a master and an apprentice" "Okay, cool! See you next time you want to challenge us for control of the galaxy." Silly projections aside, we know the Sith wouldn't volunteer this information and the Jedi would have no reason to believe it was such a specific number unless they are quoting from a Sith source. I would agree that it makes the most sense that some members of the Jedi council are still learned in the lore about the Sith and suspect they are not entirely wiped out while others truly believe they are extinct. ...However, it makes even more sense for this to be a rational view if the disbelieving members are not around for suspicious incidents. Again, I will cede it is technically not canon breaking, it just retroactively makes Mundi either kinda slimy, a doofus, or a slimy doofus. Which, I mean, we don't canonically have evidence that he *wasn't*, but you get the idea.

[@Geekritique]

Thanks for your thought exercise here, I went through a similar mental quandary when trying to rationalize it. And I really like the idea that they could have gotten that from a holocron. 🤔 I like that a lot.

[@Elvisbackpack]

Personal headcanon, the Rule of Two has existed forever, the present interpretation of the Rule of Two hasn't. We saw from the Sith temple on Malachor (from the Old Republic era) that two has always been an important number to the Sith. Bane didn't straight up invent the Rule of Two, he just changed it from "We will always be partnered in groups of two" to "There will be only two Sith, period".

[@Geekritique]

@Elvisbackpack I like that reading of the Rule of 2, and certainly considered that possibility when making this video - but decided to stick with the current interpretation within canon.

[@chronicguardian9684]

Speaking to point 10: Was this stated as a lore break? You chalk it up to story telling contrivance. If it is simply a complaint, it seems a case of a rose by another name. However, if the show wanted to cover this point, maybe they could have brought up that since Mae and Osha are the same consciousness split into two bodies, they feel identical in the Force?

[@Geekritique]

I like that theory, that they're essentially the same person in the Force.

[@0TAFE]

Do you plan on going back to the MCU and making chronological timelines for it? You were one of the best at making those. Especially now that the MCU has grown so much with all new universes its pulled in I feel like now would be prime time to step back in the game.

[@Geekritique]

I’ve begun working on my MCU Timeline v8. It’ll be a while, and I expect it to release the weekend of Captain America: Brave New World.

[@0TAFE]

@@Geekritique Oh wow that's really far out how come your waiting that long? Don't get me wrong take as long as you need but that just seems so far out.

[@Geekritique]

1. It takes many months of work to complete a timeline of this scale. 2. It’s best to attach it to a big film for algorithm purposes.

[@user-yl4lf9mh1w]

Great video

[@Geekritique]

Thank you!

[@xardo007]

29:00 So, what you're saying is "Fear leads to anger, anger leads to hate, hate... leads to suffering..."?

[@Geekritique]

Oh excellent, I wish I had thought about that when I was writing the script!!

[@azharuddinzahaur7683]

The Acolyte was far from perfect but it was also very far for terrible too. I actually enjoyed it and wished it had gotten a season two. Although I am not a big fan of everything that Disney has done with Starwars, i was really disturbed by the amount of bs which some of these diehard fans like Starwars Theory were throwing at this show. The Acolyte revealed that a lot of these people who claim to know a lot of starwars are actually living in their own fanfiction bubble.

[@Geekritique]

This is exactly the case. Great comment.

[@antonn.mp4]

16:00 and don’t forget the multiple scenes of jedi fighting each other in the novels (vernestra vs imri, reath vs dez, reath sparring vernestra etc.) which SWT probably would know if he read them but apparently he gave up on light of the jedi after 30 pages (take this with a grain of salt) and like I don’t care if he didn’t read it because i get that some books aren’t for everyone but my question is why does he continue to yap and yap about shit he doesn’t know

[@Geekritique]

So this particular criticism was made by Echo Base Network, not SWT, but it’s true, he couldn’t get through Light of the Jedi lol. 😂

[@langlois.1756]

Couldn't agree more, people will believe anything as long as it fits THEIR own narrative. Legends is canon to them until it isn't. The double standard is crazy, if something they claim non-canon happens with characters or stories they like, they will dismiss it or try to explain it to satisfy their own idea of what Star Wars is. Like the great Neil Degrasse Tyson said "The universe is under no obligations to make sense to you". All this Acolyte cancellation agenda is pretty ironic ... it's almost like the dark side has clouded their minds 🤷

[@Geekritique]

The dark side has definitely clouded their minds if these are the arguments they’re making to bring it down a peg 🤣

[@bryzantine1571]

Also in Jedi: survivor, one of the villains bleed their crystal. It only took like less than a minute. Wonder why no one has an issue with him doing it so easily, but they do with osha

[@Geekritique]

It’s because they have a predisposed bias towards things they like, I guess? 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@psecretpseudonym4801]

For very much of the audience, this was the first time to see a force user bleed a crystal. For them, this is introducing a new and meaningful concept to the universe, which could feel like a big change introduced just to give this one moment an overt visual metaphor to make the emotional subtext all the more obvious (one could argue the actor’s performance should have been enough to make this moment land) - all for what is, at least for now, a relatively minor side-plot character. It’s understandable how that could feel out of place for a very large proportion of the franchise’s fan base and the show’s intended audience. Doesn’t make it wrong or “breaking”, but understandable how it might leave behind or not really land with much of the audience.

[@Geekritique]

I can understand that sentiment, sure.

[@gelsboy0369]

Because Jedi survivor is good.

[@Geekritique]

@gelsboy0369 So… you excuse things you dislike on a curve?

[@chronicguardian9684]

Speaking to point 16: See point 3. While they technically have a mostly blank slate to work with and thus this isn't breaking canon, it is generally advisable not to shuffle dates and details without considering why they were there in the first place. At this point it, it is too early to tell why Plaguieus is there, but in general I feel Headland is biting off more than she can chew by including him. Are there conclusions being jumped to? Yes. Are they reasonable conclusions given the surrounding evidence of what is presented in the show? They are possibilities. And when we have torched good will (which admittedly is not 100% Headland's fault as she has not helmed the franchise as a whole) then possibilities quickly become liabilities in the theory space.

[@Geekritique]

The issues is that the conclusions are being jumped to as factualities. This is poor criticism, which I’m now critiquing.

[@beresaurus]

thank you for this

[@Geekritique]

You’re very welcome!

[@Gat-Man55]

I think the issue(at least my issue) with the thread is that there’s nothing distinguishing between it and the force, and therefore no reason to refer to the witch coven as witches. As opposed to the dathomir nightsisters who use magick, which they still admit is a primal aspect of the force distinguishable enough to be referred to as something different. A Jedi/sith can use the force but cannot use magick as a nightsister can. The witches of brendok just use the force and call it a thread so there’s nothing unique or interesting about them other than they use the force without moderation from the Jedi. They also claim that it’s not a power that’s used then immediately use it in combat

[@Geekritique]

The distinguishing factor, that I can discern either way, is that they don’t wield it. They simply pull on it. If they pull too hard, or if that thread is severed, their link to it, and their link to life, is over. That’s why, I think, most of them died when Kelnacca was severed from their thread.

[@itsjaymedia6130]

Really appreciate this video dakota! I really enjoyed this show, but its nice to see someone who didnt enjoy the show as much still defend it from the unnecessary hate! Keep up the good work

[@Geekritique]

Thanks so much! And I didn’t hate it. Probably like a 7/10 for me on a good day. But yeah, the blind hate needed to be explored.

[@roldanelvis2449]

Very refreshing ☺️ someone without hate.. great 👍 content and I'm for sure a new 🆕 subscriber 💙

[@Geekritique]

I’m very happy to hear that! Thank you.

[@chronicguardian9684]

Speaking to Point 19: By "looking at contextual evidence", I think you might be overlooking the reaction of the characters in the scene. While I suspect you would say (and is probably the intention of the show?) that Qimir is impressed that Osha is accomplishing the task that had been set out for Mae and does so without direct training in the Darkside, I think it is being mistaken for "You did what no one before you has done!" Which, considering that was pretty much what happened with Rey and Force Healing, has some precedence in Disney Canon. As for "But Disney canon has mentioned it as happening before and it even happened earlier in the same show", remember that this is the same show that has bugs attracted to lightsabers (until they're not) and Osha having a little thing for Jecki (until she doesn't) and the Sith wanting to work in secrecy (until they don't). Nothing forced Qimir to confront the Jedi. He could have peaced out after killing Kelnacca and, if he felt she was really a risk, Mae, and the only difference would be fewer bodies with incriminating lightsaber wounds. My point is that logic and consistency has not been this show's strong suit. When the show can't remember its own rules or stated motivations, why would we expect them to be following canon? However, as shown by your defense, there is no canon break here, just jumping at shadows. Bad writing does have that effect on people, though.

[@Geekritique]

I appreciate you going point for point with me here, very thorough. I understood that surprise from Qimir as being simply that Qimir had learned earlier in the episode that Mae had found a way to kill without a weapon, as per Osha's vision, so he was confused by the turn of events.

[@chronicguardian9684]

@@Geekritique You know what? That makes sense. ...Although I do wonder if this is an open ended test for Darkside abilities. Is the point to urge an incoming Acolyte to delve into the Force for destruction? If so, I wonder if any came out with Force lightning instead of the choke.

[@HeroEdits01]

Im sorry if this is the 3rd time Im asking but How long will DCEU timeline take?

[@Geekritique]

A while, considering it’s not a major priority at the moment.

[@HeroEdits01]

@@Geekritique Alright Hopefully you post it before Superman Legacy

[@ModernMouse]

You killed it! I love bearded smart guy Dakota!

[@Geekritique]

Thank you, my friend! (I love the beard too 😭)

[@zaranyzerak]

This is the kind of well researched, level headed analysis the fandom needs more of. THIS is the content that should be getting millions of views, not the endless rage-bating grifters. Well done! I'm sharing this everywhere and hope everyone else watching does the same. May you succeed in doing your part to bring balance back to The Force!

[@Geekritique]

This is one of my favorite comments in a long time. Thank you so much.

[@joshuafrazier3904]

I'm 99% certain all of the Jedi are bad comments are pure sarcasm and you didn't need that in your video. Nerdrotic himself defends the Jedi in his own video on the Acolyte so I don't think anyone actually thinks the Jedi are genuinely bad. You’d have to be stupid to think that genuinely. I personally think the Jedi in the flashbacks are just being idiots more than anything.

[@Geekritique]

Sarcasm or not, their audience eats up and believes everything they say, so pointing it out as flawed criticism is still valid.

[@hoos3014]

No, some people straight up believe that if the Jedi are less than perfect that means they are bad.

[@Chris_92164]

24:49 that is because bleeding was first mentioned in 2017, 12 years after the youngling scene

[@Geekritique]

It was mentioned in the Ahsoka novel the year prior to 2017, but yes.

[@wordlesslfiddling]

This is how i understand the twins being born from the force Since the planet is a force nexus it makes sense to me that extreme feats could be accomplished of course the witches are relatively low on the power scale so life is created and nothing else but when plagiues does it being a sith lord hes able to do it at a greater scale and creates the chosen one And for the people that say it ruins plagiues because he gets the idea from the witches how do we know it wasnt plagiues who taught the witches to do it as a proof of concept if some low level force users could create life surley a sith lord could Also the empire did create arnor made entirely of cortosis in jedi outcast and its seen as big deal that happened galak fyar goes off on how awesome he is for creating cortosis armor near the end of the game And lets not even get started on the fact that cortosis is a rare metal why dont the empire just make armor out of beskar becauses its rare

[@Geekritique]

I like this theory. Makes sense to me. And good call, forgot about Jedi Outcast. Good game.

[@richardd5645]

It's my understanding that Matt Martin, one of the people who worked on the comic where it's suggested that Plagiues and Sideous created Anakin indicated that it was actually just Sideous lying to Anakin/Vader and the vision was his fear that it was true.

[@morgancurran4837]

I think The Acolyte's hate is unwarranted in my opinion and I relay liked the show and it should't be hated on and a lot of its world building is being built on what has already been establish in the High Republic comics and Novels so you should't be hating on Patty Jenkins she is a Star Wars fan like all of us and she is just building on to the already expansive world that is Star Wars like Dave Filoni and George Lucas before her so every one should stop hating on the Franchise they love and just be happy that there is more Star Wars like me. Also I relay love your stuff cant wait for Your MCU Timeline 8.0.

[@Geekritique]

I think you mean Leslye Headland, not Patty Jenkins, but otherwise I agree!

[@morgancurran4837]

Oh I didn't Realize thanks for that and will you be doing a update for the DCEU Timeline and a first Timeline for James Gunn's DCU.

[@alecjackman2655]

I find it funny how Theory goes on to complain that the show makes the Jedi look like “The bad guys” but at the same time though, Theory is one of those people who think the Jedi are arrogant fools for not granting Anakin the rank of master. He thinks that the Jedi brought on their own destruction in episode 3 because they didn’t trust Anakin (even though the council had every reason not to trust him since Anakin was spoiled brat).

[@Geekritique]

Anakin was obviously not deserving of the title. He simply wasn’t mature enough or ready for that title. If Theory doesn’t see that, idk what to say 🤣

[@raidenthenctzenwithinsomni4961]

@@Geekritique Idk about maturity level but on other stuff he definitely was deserving of the title.

[@Geekritique]

@raidenthenctzenwithinsomni4961 Skill level isn’t generally a deciding factor for stuff like leadership.

[@raidenthenctzenwithinsomni4961]

@@Geekritique Fair enough.

[@alecjackman2655]

@@Geekritique it’s a miracle that he even passed knighthood and the only reason that happened was because the Jedi were desperate for more Jedi Knights after the war started. They basically rushed the knighting of most Padawan’s regardless of wether or not they were actually ready. Anakin obviously wasn’t, lol.

[@lostxwoods6702]

How about your take on another issue I have heard brought up a lot and find myself agreeing with: Sol and Torbin don't make sense as Jedi. Its heavily established in Star Wars lore that the Jedi way is to not act on emotion, but instead act on reason in a calm state of mind. That acting on emotion leads to the dark side. They believe the Jedi should not have wants, and should act for the sake of the community rather than for themselves...well it is easily apparent that Sol and Torbin don't fit into this mold, so it begs the question, how are they Jedi? It especially doesn't make sense since they don't even have the excuse Anakin had by starting training at an older age after he already had attachments and grew up not following this code for his early childhood (nor did they have the pressures/ego boost of being "the chosen one" to influence their attitudes). For them any tendencies to act this way should of been ironed out of them during their first several years of training, at a very young age. Yet, Sol acts on emotion repeatedly, and out of self interest. Torbin straight up whines about wanting to abandon the task at hand, then acts on emotion as well. Sure, Torbin was young, but surely would have already been through several years (a decade at least?) of training by this time and should have had better control of himself. From a writing perspective it makes sense, as not much of what happened could have happened if everyone was behaving the way that would make sense given established expectations in the lore for Jedi, but in a Star Wars sense it just seems like lazy writing that had little respect for things.

[@Geekritique]

This is a great question actually, and there are plenty of Jedi within canon and Legends that fall into that same camp as someone who easily falls prey to their emotions. These individuals usually fall to the Dark Side, more often than not, or battle their emotions because of this emotional desire. There are tens of thousands of Jedi. You’re going to have some who are calm (Indara, Qui-Gon, Windu), and you’re going to have some who are emotionally centered (Sol, Torbin, Dooku). The teachings of detachment are meant to guide one to being better Jedi, they don’t necessarily change one’s disposition entirely.

[@psecretpseudonym4801]

@@GeekritiqueI think there’s a more subtle issue in the implied broader culture of the Jedi Order. They were using colloquial speech very much intended to evoke police or military undertones and felt pretty anachronistic and incongruent. The gradual militarization and downfall of the Jedi order was a major overarching theme later (the Ashoka series touched on this), so it seemed out-of-order to try to establish this now. It felt a little like a cheap attempt to seem relevant to contemporary tensions and events. Also, they are supposedly carefully selected not just for their talents but also for their temperament, and then are trained by the order since very early childhood. Galactic diversity and varied personalities is expected, but they ought to each reflect some core common culture, values, and traits in all aspects. Their personalities and mannerisms were varied in ways we’d see in a Disney/WB high school sitcom - a stretch in some subtle ways that we don’t usually see among Jedi, and not enough in ways that would make more sense when recruiting across such a diverse galactic civilization. Not objectively breaking anything, but feels like a weird fit. By analogy: Imagine a story about the astronauts on the ISS but they look and act like the cast of The Office or Glee.

[@Geekritique]

Eh, I don’t see that as an anachronism. Star Wars has always utilized modern day speech mixed in with a heavy dose of technobabble. The Jedi of the High Republic hundreds of years earlier also used similar speech.

[@psecretpseudonym4801]

@@Geekritique A bit of the Jedi use of colloquialisms and idioms was like it was lifted from a ‘80s beat cop film. E.g.,: “no rest for the wicked”, “You *made* Jedi knight?” (As if it’s a like making Captain”, “Stop in the name of the republic and the Jedi order”. It’s all subtle, but these and other colloquialisms and idioms felt about as out of place as hover-vespas in Boba Fett, unfortunately. It’s not “lore-breaking” so much as it breaks immersion - kinda like dropping contemporary pop songs into the score… Not “wrong” in any objective way, but just artistic decisions that ultimately result in an underwhelming experience for much of the audience and contributes to the drop-off in viewership. In all likelihood, the vast majority of the audience stopped watching because they didn’t find it entertaining or engaging storytelling, not because they’re all secretly horrible and bigoted people (some may be, tbf). The Nielsen data reflects that. The authentic looking audience reviews also mostly reflect that too (I skimmed the top ~100 on Google and tbh it was actually the positive reviews that looked blatantly AI generated - some even with markdown formatting characters/syntax, a few repeats, some referencing what seemed like positive points in their prompt, and mostly with vague but flowery praise; the negative reviews had the sort of detailed, poorly written, and specific nitpicks that seemed authentically annoyed, disappointed, and petty).

[@richardd5645]

My take on Torbin, from watching the show, was that he was more bothered by how easily his mind was invaded by the Witches; hence the scene where he seems to be trying to centre himself (outside the ship). This then becomes his fear that leads him to act rashly; he needs an excuse to leave the planet, he later insists that he had now fortified his mind. As for him acting like a teenager I feel obligated to point out that Obi-won in PTM says “why do I sense we have taken on another pathetic lifeform” - jeez Obi, that’s kind of a dick thing to say! The irony is that Aniseya, in using such an aggressive tactic to try and get the Jedi to leave, to protect the coven, starts the ball rolling on the destruction of the coven. For Sol, is he repeatedly warned by Indara that he seems to be acting on his emotions (and thus not like a Jedi) and after the event she admonishes him to contemplate why he acted the way he did. Unfortunately, we later find that despite the instant regret he seems to have after killing Aniseya, that he spends the next 16 years convincing himself that he did the right thing (based on incomplete information); an error further prompted by the fear that the jedi council will take Osha away from him if the truth came out. Sorry for the essay 😊

[@williamloenhorst5805]

Put the haters in their place, loved the video

[@Geekritique]

Haha thanks!

[@chronicguardian9684]

Speaking to Point 18: I will leave this at "I don't buy it", but could probably be canon.

[@Geekritique]

Fair enough.

[@chronicguardian9684]

Speaking to point 4: Please don't strawman your opposition; there are many reasons why a forced immaculate conception is problematic. Life creation in any story is usually grounds for massive hubris (see Frankenstein's monster for the root of modern literary discourse on the subject) and having what is essentially the backwater mystics club intentionally pull off what centuries of traditions and research could not culminate feels kind of insulting to the established powers. Could this conceivably be explained by a large dose of development in how the Thread works and why it uniquely positions itself to create life? Possibly. However, that homework was not done on screen and, I am tempted to believe, was not done off screen, either. Perhaps this is again more a point against the storytelling than canon breaking (There is nothing explicitly saying it can't happen, but there is canon implying it is a miraculous event previously unencountered by the Jedi judging by Qui-Gon's reaction, which is notably not shared by Sol upon hearing identical circumstances) but I would contend it still has not been properly supported by the show either way.

[@Geekritique]

It’s not an identical circumstance, and it’s not immaculate conception. Frankenstein’s Monster is a great example of it not being immaculate. As the witches claim, it’s a “dark,” “unnatural” ability. One person, Anakin, was born from the will of the Force to balance something out. The twins on the other hand, were born from abuse of that Force, an imbalance. No strawman here. I’m refuting the notion that this makes Anakin less special. As for the circumstances surrounding how their birth was possible, not enough info is known on it yet, so I don’t see the value in my commenting on that.

[@chronicguardian9684]

@@Geekritique You're right, I probably should have led with "life creation in general" to parse out Frankenstein's monster before addressing "immaculate conception in particular". That was poor formatting on my part. It is identical in so far as "Here is a child born outside of natural means with an affinity for the Force". If my wife waved her hands and a creme brulee appeared on the counter and then a second, even better creme brulee also magically spawned in afterwords, I would agree that there are distinct causes but both are magically spawning creme brulees. This similar point is what everyone is commenting on as the extraordinary circumstance that draws parallel between the two circumstances. To Sol as an outside observer with only the facts that these children were not born of a father, would the diverging factor be Anakin's "m" count? It is a strawman because you directly dismiss people complaining about its inclusion as dismissing the show on purely ideological grounds. Don't take my word for it, replay that entire section and look at how you talk about your opposition. That is bad faith criticism because it assumes your opponents have no reason to object to these circumstances except that they have not intellectually engaged in with the content and disagree with it for unrelated reasons. Explain to me how that is not a strawman. Is it impossible for your estimation of their dissent to rise above the level of ideological midwits? Because that was the impression your addendum left on me, and it felt pretty strawmanny. As this is a conception purely from the Force or use of the Force (no biological sperm source), I would classify it as immaculate. I see you draw your distinction at "Anakin is a product of the will of the Force" as opposed to the will of the coven. Yes, that does make Anakin unique from Osha and Mae, but both are "born of the Force" in that they would not have been conceived without some intervention from the Force. They are both unique to the general populace in at least a similar way. If not the same species, can we at least claim a unique Genus? (Midichloro-Geminus and Midichloro-Chosenus, if you will) Consider this: what does the show lose by Osha and Mae not being born of the Force (perhaps not the will of the Force, yes, but the Force was still directly, nature-breakingly involved)? Why not just be twins that are adopted into the coven or even be Aniseya's children from a man who is no longer in the picture? I would assume (but have no direct proof) that Headland wanted the coven to be purely female energy and not be tainted by any male influence. I further posit (on more solid ground) that she wanted the coven to be their blood family to contrast with Jedi philosophy (putting aside that the coven is not the blood family of any other coven member). How do we get there? Born of the Force. The consequence? We are suggesting at the very least that the Force can be used to create life. By your admission with Anakin's circumstances, Plaguieus was not able to achieve the same. This thus canonically demotes Plaguieus' abilities below the coven. Taking Aniseya at her word of "I created them", it isn't even the coven using the power of many, it is only the one. Thus, Plaguieus is canonically below Aniseya. Was there anything canonically saying he was the most powerful ever? Only in the soft penumbras, as near as I am aware, but it is an upset to the general understanding of the universe. You cannot say it changes nothing. You could argue that this is Aniseya hopped up on Brendok Force Vergence, so Plaguieus' big mistake was not conducting his experiments on Brendok. Sure. However, the bigger point is that Aniseya successfully pulled off an otherwise unheard of task (canonically shown to be extraordinary with how Palpatine talks about it to Anakin) and that thus warrants some explanation.

[@Geekritique]

@chronicguardian9684 For me, had they not been born through dark side manipulation of the Force, that loses quite a bit of appeal. I have long wanted to see a rationale for their being a need for a Chosen One prophecy, a need for the Force to balance itself, and I believe this act of creating the twins was exactly that imbalance. I could be wrong of course, but in Legends there’s a reason behind Anakin’s birth. In Canon we don’t yet have that, and I believe the seeds are now sown for the story to logically take shape.

[@chronicguardian9684]

@@Geekritique For me, that raises a question of: If Anakin is in response to the coven creating Mae and Osha, why is he not created sooner? That creates the possibility for making the will of the Force a "The Arc of History is long, but it bends towards Justice" narrative, and I won't deny there is appeal to it. However, long arcs have not been a Disney Star Wars strong suit so far. Perhaps this will join with Andor to break that mold?

[@emmah4793]

Thank you for this video! Personally, I loved the show, it's characters, and ESPECIALLY its choreography. That isn't to say I have no criticisms though; for example, I wish the episodes were longer to fix the pacing issues and perhaps give us more time to delve into character's motivations. Some of the character's decisions were dumb, but they each fit into their circumstances one could understand. Now whether you enjoyed the show or not, that's up to you, but many of the fan's treatment of those who worked on The Acolyte is just atrocious (actors, writers, etc.). There is a way to criticize and push for improvement without being an utterly terrible person who wishes for the worst : /

[@Geekritique]

Glad you enjoyed the video! I totally agree, the way some of these “fans” have acted is shameful.

[@Mrlukemonster]

Hi, I know it sounds strange, but since the last MCU chronological timeline is two years old now, I wanted to know if you could create another chronological order of all movies and series, including Deadpool, X-Men, and all other related content. Please let me know when you complete it, as the last one is two years old now.

[@defaultant8814]

I am of the opinion that this show is the worst thing that Star Wars has ever put out but knowing that these are the most common criticisms is funny and frustrating because there is so much you can complain about without being wrong.

[@Geekritique]

I still think this is way better than BoBF, Mando s3, and Kenobi, BUT, I see your point. lol. Yeah I don’t get the point of hating something to the point where your criticisms make you look unintelligent.

[@JediHangout]

Thank you for making this video. All those you mentioned were things that I noticed too and I just laughed at them thinking “Are they watching the same show as I am?” They were determined to find flaws in The Acolyte. It’s not the best show in the world and there are flaws, but not earth shattering. There were good elements to the show, but none of them really did a critical analysis. They just trashed the show. Lucasfilm will be careful as to allow canon or life to be broken. It’s about adding not taking away. Sometimes I think these KZbinrs are delusional or on something. They act like they know Star Wars better than anyone else. I know pretty much a lot about Star Wars, but I won’t say I know everything. It’s impossible unless you have made a true academic career out of it. I have been a Star Wars fan since May 25, 1977. I grew up with it and I don’t feel that canon was broken. I’ve seen changes and I’ve read a lot of the EU novels. I enjoy and find positive things, but I don’t ignore the flaws. I just don’t keep focused on hating or the flaws. I find the strengths in each of the creations, TV Shows, films, and novels. This comes from my professional experience as a college professional. I have always taught my students to be critical thinkers and look at things from the outside and look at both sides of the picture and not be negative going into it. They get too emotional and dramatic. On another note, they use profanity in their videos. I do not and will not take anyone serious who uses profanity. It’s inappropriate and not professional.

[@Geekritique]

Really appreciate this comment. I’m glad I could make a college professor enjoy my study and breakdown of other’s criticisms. Thank you.

[@JediHangout]

@@Geekritique Don’t think of me as a college professor but rather as a Geeky Star Wars fan who appreciates another Star Wars fan’s analysis. We Star Wars peeps need to keep the Force strong and moving.

[@joshuapattee2905]

The other problem i have with the mae a nd asha birth is because its heavily stated that after the fall of the old republic the only ones capable of using the force to create children were palpatine and the night sisters

[@Geekritique]

This is never stated anywhere in Canon or Legends.

[@jamesstark4136]

Okay, good points you make. AND two points i must make. First: the Jedi are the bad guys, they have always been the bad guys though not just in the Acolyte. It's an easy argument to make everything they did and the hypocrisy that they live led someone like Anakin who knows what they are doing is unfair to join the opposition. Yoda said, Fear leads to... The dark side. What he was really saying is Love leads to the dark side because love leads to fear. AND the Jedi were always afraid! Afraid of emotions afraid of fear itself. They were afraid of Anakin. That is what created Vadar not just Palpatine. Second: (Yeah this is just the second point). I just rewatched 1-9 saga and let me tell ya; all of them have gaping plot holes just like Acolyte so maybe that's what makes Acolyte part of the club. Bonus point for those that complained about "Hell". How many times does star wars refer to the nearest star to a planet as the Sun. The Sun, is the name of Earth's star. You can't go around calling every star a sun it just ain't right! Lol, and Sol...Sol...Yeah that's another reference to Earth's star! It wouldn't be Star wars without the plot holes. But the cry baby crowd cares more about their 'rights' being taken away by movies, than actually watching a good movie.

[@kawaiigirluwu1153]

16:09 another thing to note that sol never could distinguish the twins, before killing aniseya he mistaked mae for osha

[@Geekritique]

Yeah, also considering they’re the same person, he might feel like they’re the same person in the Force.

[@chronicguardian9684]

Speaking to point 13: This is a joke because the show is taking the sort of actions one might use to reset an ipod and applying it to a droid, which have been shown to be at least semi-sentient in the Star Wars Universe. In the spirit of calling balls and strikes, I don't think you should approach a joke like a complaint against canon. It is, at most, a complaint against the aesthetic. The two button reset feels close to how we operate simple devices in this world and it is here being applied to something arguably far more complex. However, it is shown in Empire Strikes Back that Chewbacca can switch 3PO on and off, so it's not without precedent that droids can have simple manual control points. If we are arguing this as a point of canon, I would say the examples were ill-chosen all around but the point is in your favor.

[@Geekritique]

This point was just pointing out dumb criticism.

[@robertangus616]

I can't wait for the updated MCU timeline, it'll be interesting how you deal with Loki S2 and Deadpool & Wolverine

[@Geekritique]

That will be interesting 👀

[@jjgaminglegend942]

@@Geekritiquewhen is it coming out? Cant wait

[@Geekritique]

@jjgaminglegend942 In a few months probably.

[@robertangus616]

@@Geekritique Take as much time as you need. Endgame was probably annoying but Deadpool 3 will ruin your sleep schedule

[@chronicguardian9684]

Speaking to point 9: How is this a canon problem? If the question is "How did she get the skills to wield two when she is only shown practicing with one?" I suppose a similar question could be asked of Anakin from his Attack of the Clones dual wielding encounter with Dooku. ...Which I am tempted to say ended faster for the most gifted Jedi ever than it did for Jecki, but we could also argue Qimir is a less gifted dualist than Dooku. ...Which then begs the question of why the other Jedi who had presumably also been drilling with their sabers just like Jecki went down with such comparative ease. As has become the pattern with these points: maybe not lore breaking, but really not great writing decisions.

[@Geekritique]

I struggled putting all this together into a “canon-breaking” list, but after 7 weeks of this commentary, I saw that people believed it clearly broke lore, or was a plot hole, so I threw it in anyway. My theory, and perhaps not a great one, is that Padawans would in theory be the more likely victors in duels over knights and maybe even masters, thanks to recency and repetition. After turning Knight, I don’t believe the training sessions meant to train Padawans are required for members. That doesn’t mean they necessarily stop training, but it’s no longer part of their routine as it would be for a Padawan. It’s like someone who’s on the high school basketball team playing someone who used to play high school basketball a decade ago. They’re both skilled, but one has trained more diligently and more recently for their current skill level. Idk. Just a thought.

[@psecretpseudonym4801]

@@GeekritiqueIt seemed implied that she was just exceptionally talented in lightsaber combat. Jedi vary in their individual aptitudes and talents. That’s fair. However, holding her own as a padawan who hasn’t finished training against a villain who killed a half dozen or so Jedi with ease and who could dual a high ranking Jedi Master implies she’s one of the most talented duelists in the show if not much of the canon. That suggested she was an intriguing or special character, which I think was the intent and meant to drive home the loss when she was killed. Options to make it just a little more balanced and believable: (A) Show Qimir as a little sadistic by showing that he enjoyed toying with her when he could have just as quickly killed her. (B) Have the other Jedi mount a better defense and injure Qimir more severely before being killed, justifying why each of the remaining characters seemed able to fight him 1:1. A severe injury cold have also created a more humanizing and deliberately vulnerable moment later with Osha so her decision not to kill him wasn’t just out vs seemingly underdeveloped romantic tension. (C) Establish earlier that lightsaber combat is a particular talent, but that she has other areas she still has much to work on as a padawan, making her more balanced and avoid claims that she’s a Mary Sue. (D) Show that the other Jedi were more capable, too. All Jedi should be quite capable. Their fight with Qimir was used almost entirely to show how capable he was, at the cost of making them seem ineffectual and irrelevant as “redshirts”. Backstory for nearly every character on screen no matter how small is something very special to Star Wars, so the showrunner’s use of Jedi as what she herself called “redshirts” made them feel oddly disposable, incompetent, and irrelevant. That made Jecki’s abilities harder to believe in contrast. The issue here isn’t so much that this breaks canon, but that it’s lazy storytelling that pushes the work onto the audience to justify and rationalize what they’re seeing. Yes, you can help do that work for them after the fact, but it’s a failing on the storyteller, not the audience.

[@Geekritique]

I don’t disagree with most of this. There’s another answer to it, as Qimir suggests that Mae could learn from this Padawan. I think it’s fairly clear that he was toying with her, until she unmasked him - at which point Qimir ended the conflict in less than 2 seconds. He could have done so the entire fight, but obviously chose not to.

[@psecretpseudonym4801]

@@Geekritique I can see that - aligns with the first option I suggested, but then doesn’t explain how Jecki also was so capable to not only survive but capture Mae in a duel when we just saw Mae murder Indara in a duel. If we are supposed to believe Mae could beat Indara in a duel, and then we see Jecki capture Mae single-handedly, then see Jecki hold her own against Qimir and hold him off better on her own than a whole hunting pack of Jedi, then it the implication seemed to be that Jecki is a talented duelist and important supporting character who was able to perform far beyond what we’d expect from a padawan, all to make it feel like an even bigger loss and surprise when she is killed. That’s fine, but it does ask the audience to believe that every other Jedi killed was a “redshirt” and Jecki was just exceptional. I can see how that feels like a weird plot contrivance without anything shown to justify it. It seems like weak storytelling to ask the audience to rationalize why what they’re seeing somehow makes sense for reasons never shown nor even implied when otherwise inconsistent with the world and the rest of the characters and story.

[@chronicguardian9684]

@@psecretpseudonym4801 Why include a whole hunting pack of Jedi in the first place? Qimir is already going to kill Yord and Jecki. We don't need a pack of redshirts to show he's dangerous when he's already doing that with named characters. Agree, though, more sadistic clips, as we see with Dooku vs. Anakin, could help the case. Also, it should be noted that as far as canon goes, Palpatine took out three Jedi Masters with less fight than these Jedi put up, so canonically it is not out of the realm of possibility for a group of Jedi to just get punked. ...It's just unsatisfying from a storytelling perspective.

[@chronicguardian9684]

Closing: My goodness! The shallow pool that is Acolyte criticism? Certainly, you showed that most of these don't have to be lore breaking, but almost every one opens up a bigger can of worms and, without a proper pay off, will be sloppy writing. At best, most of this writing lives in limbo supported by the graciousness of good-willed viewers until it can maybe be paid off in season 2. Also: don't fall to the Darkside. Do not jump to the conclusion that every criticism is a lore break instead of a writing criticism. Many of the examples you showed here did not appear to be tagged as lore breaks. Do not fall to the same faults you see in others. Transcend them that you may be respected.

[@Geekritique]

I appreciate your council. *bows low* I’m not the one suggesting these are or aren’t writing issues. These are things people have actively been saying broke canon for weeks. I merely compiled it into a list and found good examples of said shallow criticism.

[@chronicguardian9684]

@@Geekritique I appreciate your indulgence. *bows in return* You have obviously put thought into your responses, I hope I have done the same in return.

[@Geekritique]

@chronicguardian9684 I’ve very much enjoyed the back and forth. Well done.

[@irvingsegovia8543]

It's a good video. Thank you for debunking him

[@Geekritique]

You’re most welcome! 🙏

[@joshuafrazier3904]

I'll be real I didn't know we didn't actually have a canon age for that guy so that's interesting. In which case joy this show doesn't break any lore which had no bearing on why I dislike the show anyway bravo. I mean like seriously why do people even care about this show’s canonicity when there are much more realistic reasons to dislike this show like inconsistent character writing and the general idiocy and incompetency of most of the characters.

[@Geekritique]

I really don’t know why they didn’t stick to normal criticisms, but here we are. 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@chronicguardian9684]

Speaking to point 15: Fact check true! Headland says they aren't lesbians. ...Put aside the obvious point about two ladies partnered together in a relationship that creates life and I'll even agree this isn't just a nominal distinction. You also correctly point out we have no idea what the heck is Plaguieus even doing here. Canonically problematic? No. Good writing? Also no. Either develop what is going on or leave him out of it. The script is just making more headaches for itself by dropping him here.

[@Geekritique]

I’ll cede to that point, yeah. He was simply a tease. Not a very good one, from a logical perspective, but I for one was pleased to see him.

[@chronicguardian9684]

@@Geekritique Well... I can't fault you for that one. The only moment of Rise of Skywalker that made me smile was seeing Dennis Lawson as Wedge Antilles again, so we all have our weaknesses.

[@Elvisbackpack]

I assume she means the whole of the coven isn't lesbians, not that the twins mothers aren't lesbians.

[@Geekritique]

@Elvisbackpack if I remember correctly, she was referring to the mothers in that quote. Have to double check though.

[@joshuapattee2905]

I do want to say that the force choke thing isnt saying "its the first force choke" those are both, pretty clear to me, forms of sarcasm which is trying to poke a poorly made hole in the plot as osha kills her master as he "doesnt fight back"(even tho its clearly meant to be his personal form of atonement for the wrongdoings HE HAD COMMITED towards the twins)

[@VactorVerse]

Dakota rules!!

[@Geekritique]

No u

[@mydeaddad2927]

My biggest complaint about the show was Vernestra’s jedi squad. Those jedi extras looked so bad and since the rest of the characters (main and background) looked good they just stuck out. Otherwise i enjoyed the show, hope it gets a season 2

[@Geekritique]

That’s actually a really decent complaint. They just stuck out as you say, and didn’t feel genuine.

[@chronicguardian9684]

Speaking to point 3: Not sure why this is counted as a canon break instead of an issue with how the show is told? Yes, definitely not an issue for there to be alternate interpretations of the force. However, coming up with alternate interpretations that are poorly explained (Ex: "Not a power you wield!" *immediately wields it to make supernatural phenomena occur*) seems like the writer wanted the witches to be ideological martyrs without fully thinking through what exactly they were standing for in the first place.

[@Geekritique]

If their philosophy surrounding the Force and how to interact with it is to simply pull on its thread, then that is their philosophy. For all we know, “wield” connotes a theft of or a break in said thread. We don’t know the intricacies of thought behind the two beliefs because we can’t actually interact with it. I never once believed this dark side coven was an ideological martyr. I included this because I had seen others complain that it had broke canon. Again, I never thought it did.

[@psecretpseudonym4801]

⁠​⁠@@GeekritiqueThe showrunner seemed to imply if not directly state in interviews that we’re meant to see them as something like matyrs/victims and not as dark side users per se - as a peaceful third-party which wanted to coexist and thrive in solitude, but who were misunderstood by a Jedi order that had grown so overconfident in its singular and “paternalistic” view of the force that they didn’t realize the extent they became something of a system of oppression to alternative cultures/relationships with the force, e.g., the coven and the thread. Like you seemed to have, I didn’t personally see that as how it came across on screen…

[@chronicguardian9684]

@@Geekritique You're right in that this isn't stated on screen. As @psecretpseudonym4801 points out, surrounding interviews give me the impression this is the intended end point. To unpack my poorly connected thought: -The Witches obviously see this understanding of the Force as either worth preserving or superior to the Jedi approach in some way. As we see by their actions: it is worth defending, even to the death. If this is not the case, why resist the Jedi? The crux of their conflict with the Jedi is that the Jedi want to train Osha in a way different from the coven, to adopt her into a different ideology. Ergo, they are ideological martyrs. Regarding "wield": to hold, use, or have power/influence over. Mother Aniseya clearly uses the Thread and at minimum channeled it to her own intentions with the Force Push. We can say there is a difference between redirecting a river and making it run, but for our purposes here it seems a petty distinction: she turned the power to her own use. Tugging on the Thread would be making someone lose their footing or making Watto's chance cube "happen" to land on the desired side. Making things happen that otherwise wouldn't seems to fall outside "I was only tugging on it" by popular consensus. Further, there is the question of Lightside vs. Darkside. You can cut me off at the pass and say "What about gray with elements from both?", which, sure, why not? However, saying "Nope, I don't have any connection to either" is equivalent to answering "Is the pan hot or cold?" with "Actually, it doesn't have a temperature." The Lightside and Darkside are established forces outside the Jedi and Sith orders, and to treat them as social constructs would constitute a lore break (not saying you have suggested they do, just setting the table). From what I can gather from interviews, there is meant to be a Darkside element to the coven. I think Headland interpreted "attachment" as a Darkside trait because the Jedi eschew it. If this was the basis for the Thread, that many users build attachments and multiply their power through harmony in the Force and eachother, then it may have benefited Aniseya's demonstration to instead of contrasting her use of the Thread on one coven member with her use on two, perhaps show her trying to draw a plant from the ground alone (twisted or sickly result) before doing the same task with Koril alongside her to produce a better result. While this may not show a particularly Darkside trait to the philosophy, some quick exposition about how it is joining each other in your desires and passions feeds and nourishes the Thread between you could help cement the more intuitive/wild side of this philosophy. ...It would also make it harder to deny this is a lesbian coven, but at what point do you just say "Look, if you see it that way then fine, but I have not and will not give you canon evidence to support your argument"? The question is, do you make the Thread defy natural order on purpose and take that Darkside trait as well, or make it heterodox and balance it with some Lightside notions of harmony?

[@KingDueceND]

Get ‘em!!

[@Geekritique]

🤣

[@piterllo]

getting info from Wookiepedia says a lot

[@Geekritique]

I know right.

[@chronicguardian9684]

Speaking to point 12: Again, not so much a lore break as sloppy writing that is pretty blatantly hand waved away by the show. Basically "I guess fusion cutters are different" is just as valid as "you don't actually have rules for this, do you?" at this point, and we just have to shrug and move on. Not saying it's impossible to come up with a distinction, just that the show did not put in the effort to do so.

[@Geekritique]

Sure, though if Qimir were to stop, look at Osha, and then explain how he can weld his helmet back into place, fans would simply have more to complain about. “Show, don’t tell.”

[@chronicguardian9684]

@@Geekritique Yeah... ultimately, this one is very livable and might not be worth the price of exposition. Might make for a nice throw away line if there is a reason, though.

[@richardd5645]

Maybe a throw away addition; "Cortosis, useful against lightsabers and also a sensory depravation helmet. But a fking bitch to weld!"

[@chronicguardian9684]

@@richardd5645 Right as his welder shorts out? That would have been fantastic!

[@bestintheworld568]

Loved watching this video. My issues with the show were pretty much the same as yours, although I did overall enjoy it. Unfortunately, it seems easier to hate and pre-judge, than to take the time to understand and learn.

[@Geekritique]

Glad you liked it. Was really fun to make. And yeah, I’d say I sit around a 6 or a 7/10 for the show overall.

[@bestintheworld568]

@@Geekritique I’d say that’s a fair assessment, I thought it was a fairly solid show and can understand why it wouldn’t be to everyone’s tastes. Certainly didn’t deserve the hate it did get though. The constant whining just got tedious, eventually.

[@chronicguardian9684]

Speaking to point 5: Adjusting old canon for new canon is totally understandable. However, let's agree that you should generally have a good reason for doing so instead of just-for-the-lulz. Instead of "He's just an alien who now lives longer than previously thought. It's just a birthdate, bro", maybe realize that these little things can add up and we shouldn't be changing them willy-nilly? Thought experiment: would we have the same reaction to Mace Windu showing up in this show? What about Qui-Gon? After all, there is nothing canonically saying they have "natural Earth" lifespans in canon, so why not? On its face, it feels a little silly to set a show a century before the events of Phantom Menace only to then weasel back in more characters from that alienated point in time. Technically lore breaking? No, because the lore was nuked along with any baked in reasoning. However, it still stands as a poor writing decision because smuggling these characters in means also tying yourself to things they say and do in later canon. As a writing free-spirit, Headland would have done herself more favors staying as far away from established characters as possible so she wouldn't have to contend with such baggage. What would be the harm of just having a different Cerean Jedi who wasn't Mundi?

[@Geekritique]

We’ve seen MANY human characters age at a normal rate, so that would absolutely break the established canon.

[@chronicguardian9684]

@@Geekritique Why are you assuming all humans are of the same genetic make up? Our standard humans in Star Wars are usually of Corellian ancestry, if I remember right. Who's to say characters we saw as human aren't actually hybrids with a longer lifespan? It's a big big galaxy. Is there any tacked down canon that the people of Harun Kal have normal life spans? ...Heck, is Mace even from Harun Kal anymore? My point is, if you're going to say "well, technically it isn't explicitly stated in present canon", then you get yourself into murky territory. Instead of playing that card, it would be easier to just not include more characters from TPM a hundred years earlier than we absolutely need to. Yoda has a canon age tacked down, he has to be around. Anyone else requires canon at least be augmented (as seen here with Mundi) to be present.

[@richardd5645]

My understanding from interviews Headland has given, is that she really wanted to include Plagueis to tie the story into the previously legends only Darth Palgueis story and thereby the grander story of the Sith vs the Jedi (rather than the Skywalker saga). The addition of Ki-Adi-Mundi is a direct reference to the scene in TPM to highlight his statement in that film. In the TPM he's either lying or wrong. In this time period he's only seen Mae (and assumed that she has been trained by a fallen jedi, which she has) and nobody who heard Qimir's statement that he might be called Sith survived the series physically or mentally. Does Venestra know Qimir is a Sith? There is no clear indication that she does, so what could she tell Yoda? I've seen plenty of reactors saying there not supposed to be any Sith because of what Ki-Adi-Mundi says in TPM, even though that's not true in both Legends and Canon prior to the Acolyte. Thus, any story that included the Sith was going to raise this issue, so you might as well address it directly by having Ki-Adi-Mundi in the scene.

[@AmozMedia]

Very well made video. I feel like they should take then narrative far into the future, like a hundred years after Rey to see what force sensitive groups there are or what horrid space monsters are causing havoc in the galaxy. If there are any writers worth their paycheck they'll make a compelling plot without insulting the audience into not watching it.

[@Geekritique]

We’ll get there someday. I give it 7 years and we’ll get stories 100 years post-Episode IX.

[@EAS76]

Ok, to your first argument about the knives not being lethal, of course they are. I would say it’s not very good in your IP to have different show creators have wildly different rules on whether a charged beam of plasma through someone’s body would be a slight flesh wound that takes a few days to heal when the original lore follows physics in that a beam of charged plasma would kill a person if inserted most anywhere in the torso area for more than a split second. Perhaps have consistent rules across all shows in the universe so that a viewer of the IP could know beforehand with some consistency on what harm different weapons may cause. The argument people make here is from several of the new shows, a knife to the heart has a BETTER chance of killing someone in today’s Star Wars than a lightsaber MIGHT.

[@Geekritique]

I don’t disagree with that.

[@chronicguardian9684]

Speaking to point 14: I find your logic for Indara fuzzy. Why would the Jedi show less compassion for an orphan if they knew the full context? As for "it is shameful to claim the show is trying to say the Jedi are bad", please stop for a second and consider: Vernestra created and covered up Qimir and then dragged Sol's name through the mud. Could we at least agree that she is a less-than-upright individual? Dare I say, she might not be living up to the ideals of the order? In relation to the Brendok 4, though, I would argue that yes, the show portrays these as mistakes, but also as "culpable" mistakes and does not treat the Jedis' deaths as unwarranted. The show feels Osha is validated in choking out Sol at the end as the writer and director at least seems to take this as a "positive corruption arc", which we can't really say unless the writer (and by extension, the show) feels he deserved it or that Osha is in some way doing the "right" thing. So that gets us into the weeds: Is this a case of a good person committing an honest mistake? That doesn't seem worthy of retribution, so that would put Osha at fault in the end. Director's response indicates "no." Is this a case of a good person committing a sin so grave it overshadows his goodness? Show seems to say yes. So what is the sin? Stabbing Aniseya? I hope not, because that was entirely preventable on Aniseya's end and the ball was in her court. Not telling Osha the whole truth about what happened? Seems a little disproportionate considering he wanted to confess to her. But we know from the director's response that was Osha did at the end was in some way "right" for her. Third option: This isn't about right or wrong. At the very least, right and wrong don't map onto good and evil. Perhaps the Jedi aren't malicious, but doing their best, as you put it, was not enough to save them from the muddy intersection of characters with a legitimate emotional axe to grind and a director who appears to be actively cheering them on. If they are not bad, it must at least be allowed that the show sees them as worthy of the punishments they are handed. All that to say: Substitute "Bad" for "Guilty" and I think the argument disappears. Would you argue the show is trying to say the Jedi aren't guilty?

[@Geekritique]

Great comment, your best argument yet. I believe what the writer is expressing is certainly guilt, and perceived fault. “From my point of view, the Jedi are evil.” She’s taking that quote and taking it to a logical extreme, and showing us both parties very righteous rationales. As for Vernestra, I agree, she’s not looking too good under this light. We still don’t know why she feels lying to the senators will help the Jedi Order, but she clearly feels her actions are in favor of the Order. It’s hard to say.

[@JG-kq5el]

I haven't finished watching the whole video yet but I thank you for making it. I binged watched the show the other day and I honestly didn't think it was that bad. Absolutely nowhere near as bad as the 'reviewers' made it out to be, anyway. As you say, there's a ton of bad faith in their videos and they're just inciting hatred amongst the fans. The show was not perfect and had a ridiculous budget for what it was but it still does not deserve all the hatred it's receiving. These people really are babies.

[@Geekritique]

I’m really pleased to hear you’re enjoying the video AND the show. Thanks for this comment!

[@Macken-n9l]

Let me say, I haven’t watched it. But I know d@mn well how the canon should pertain to the prequels. Also no extended lore, because two reasons. Firstly, George’s version of extended lore did not take away, it added to the story, providing details that weren’t previously known, but cool to learn. And two Disney’s version of extended lore are answers to questions that should have been IN THE FILMS! So if these require extended lore, it’s already doomed to fail. You can’t make a person go watch or read something else to understand a stand alone story. This is why AHSOKA fails horribly.

[@Geekritique]

Lucas’ canon needed extended lore to bridge films. That’s why he oversaw 6 seasons of an animated series.

[@Macken-n9l]

@@Geekritique The reason George made the animated series was to show how the war affected the Jedi, the clones and the people the Republic. To shed more light on everyone the war was affecting. George wanted to add a lot more in the prequels but didn’t have the time. If you watch only the prequels and never one single episode of the animated series you won’t miss a thing. However, Disney seems to think that fans either have already watched certain series or films or must watch them to understand their other projects. This is why if you haven’t watched Rebels, you won’t understand who AHSOKA really is. And it’s a shame, because AHSOKA manages to misrepresent Ahsoka and the other characters, while also never really explaining who they are. My own mother watched it with me and she kept asking me who Ahsoka was. That is a massive problem.

[@Geekritique]

@Macken-n9l I don’t disagree with you. Ahsoka relies too heavily on prior knowledge. That is not an issue The Acolyte has. They’re completely new people.

[@rafaumtgavioli]

I almost did not watched this vídeo because of nerdrotic face on the thumb, even knowing this is a critique on those SW “deep thinkers” Yes, the acolyte did not break any canon! However, the bad writing, horible edditing with episodes ending like someone pushed a pause button, bad acting, realy bummed me out… the acolyte had a huge potential. But YT got flooded with toxic revews and all of them talking about lore breaking, and conspiracy theories… Thank you for releasing this video after some time because now maybe some people got their emotions controled and maybe listen to you.

[@Geekritique]

I’m glad you ended up watching the video. And you’re welcome. Hopefully I can help a couple people off the fandom menace ledge.

[@exbyte7248]

when will you update the mcu timeline with the fox x men movies

[@Geekritique]

I’ll begin work on it soon enough.

[@user-yl4lf9mh1w]

16:40 also… Osha and Mae are THE SAME PERSON

[@Geekritique]

I chose not to use this point because at the time the criticism was made we didn’t know that yet, but it’s a great point!

[@True-Believer616]

Great video. I watch your channel because of your research of the SW Lore and timeline. Most of those other channels are like much of this fandem entitled and easily triggered. They also know what subjects in a show will trigger their audience for clicks.

[@Geekritique]

Yep, they’re definitely just trying to fish for views. 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@Geekritique]

And thank you, I’m glad you enjoyed this!

[@Razorgeist]

17..What the...huh?

[@Geekritique]

Yeah I was floored by that one.

[@Razorgeist]

@@Geekritique The pearl clutching over Ki-Adi-Mundi's age really gave me a headache as I was under the impression that the EU was no longer canon. But apparently lore established by a trading card from 1999 is sacrosanct.

[@Geekritique]

It was crazy haha

[@benedwards2566]

Are you on Threads or Blue Sky? Recently deleted Twitter because of recent events

[@catandouva-producoeseentre2672]

It's refreshing to see someone lucid in the midst of so much gratuitous hatred that blinds their vision, the Star Wars fandom has really surrendered to the dark side

[@Geekritique]

THANK YOU! Yes, we need more nuanced takes in our critiques.

[@BigBaldandBeardiful]

I literally have a friend who claims to be a HUGE Star Wars fan and he absolutely refuses to watch any of the new Star Wars since the Obi Wan Kenobi show. He claims they've ruined Star Wars and he's fed up with their woke agenda. And I get so sick of hearing it cause I just want to watch the shows and make my own opinion! And he just continues to try convincing me I'm wrong for watching and liking anything Disney has done with Star Wars, like I'm not a true fan because I do like some of the new stuff. I could never come up with the words to describe the kind of "fan" my friend is but you said it best! "These people approach the shows from a place of deep insecurity! Instead of thinking how this can add from what came before, they think how does this subtract from what I love." It's such a shame how they can allow something to ruin their love because they are basically gatekeeping the franchise. Also wanted to point out that everyone complaining that Light Sabers don't kill anymore needs to look at where those surviving blows were landed. Did those blows go right through the heart like that knife? No! Reva and Sabine were stabbed in the stomach area and lived hopefully because they had their wounds treated before they bled out. I don't understand why they think a belly stab equals an auto kill like they took a bullet to the head...smh 😔 (also people have survived being shot in the head too 👀)

[@Geekritique]

Hopefully your friend comes around to reason at some point. I’m glad that my phrasing made sense. And yeah, excellent point about saber strikes and where they land.

[@BigBaldandBeardiful]

@@Geekritique Also I just realized that you don't bleed out from light saber wounds cause it would cauterize the wound lol. But anyway you get my point, they didn't hit a vital organ unlike when Qui Gon was hit in the stomach. People should stop complaining about the light sabers not being deadly and complain about the people doing the stabbing clearly not wanting to kill their victim at this point in time...

[@Elvisbackpack]

The idea of taking "The Sith have been extinct for a millennium" at face value when it's proven wrong BEFORE IT'S EVER SPOKEN is the thing about the internet rage that's pissed me off the most. It requires no media literacy whatsoever, it merely requires paying attention to the hour and twenty five minutes before that line is spoken.

[@Geekritique]

Media illiteracy is rampant in the Star Wars universe 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@chronicguardian9684]

Speaking to Point 17: Obviously vindicated by Empire Strikes Back. You're all in the clear for this one.

[@Geekritique]

*Phew*

[@Brendyn4222]

Another banger of a video. I can’t stand the Fandom Menace and I don’t have time to reply to their non-sense myself, so I just avoid it all together. But you blew this out of the water! Every point was perfect, minor criticism with the first one but it still made perfect sense, it really put that part of the fan base in their place! Bravo Dakota! 👏👏👏 Love your work as always! Hope you’re well!

[@Geekritique]

Thanks so much, Brendyn. I enjoyed putting this one together. Dunno if I’ll ever have the mental capacity to do it again, but I had to get this out of my system.

[@isaacazocar3155]

WHACK 'EM AGAIN FOR ME It shouldn't even surprise me anymore, as these "deep thinkers" will reach for anything and everything that "justifies" their hate and steers it away from their real underlying problem with this show, but seriously, Dakota, some of these complains I hadn't even heard about and had me CACKLING! lmao The Pip to Death Star pipeline! 😂 Thank you for being explicit about who these deep thinking personalities are and the stupidity of their conclusions! And thank you for providing unbiased facts even when you didn't like the show that much. Goes to show how you can watch a show, not really enjoy it and still be critical of it, only when you approach with an open mind and the anticipation of it adding and not substracting from the franchise you love. Keep up the good work! I'm excited for the next videos!

[@Geekritique]

Thanks so much for this comment, I’m happy you enjoyed the video as much as you did. The Pip to Death Star pipeline 🤣

[@suukbang]

Thank you for this video! I’m so sick of whiny so called fans picking everything apart! I used to watch SWT all of the time! Now he’s the worst! Theory is literally in his name and he comes up with his own, but then scoffs at new ideas that he doesn’t agree with?! C’mon! Again great video!

[@Geekritique]

I don’t dislike Theory, but he’s certainly stumbling over his own headcanon.

[@Nacho2003YT]

I for real feel the criticism of the witches interpreting the Force as a thread is widely lacking any evidence. Those people must go nuts whenever they hear a case of multiculturalism and of different ways of approaching-in essence-the same concepts. Nonetheless, the show still sucks jdjdjdjd

[@Geekritique]

It’s okay to dislike it, so long as your criticisms make sense 🤣

[@chronicguardian9684]

Speaking to point 8: This one gets murky. With the Jedi precognition and Qimir's murderous intent, it could be argued that they should at least be able to "spidey sense" that something is coming. However, by adding 'Vong style "force repellent" properties to cortosis, Headland is technically covered by technicality. ...Feels awful cheap on the writing side, though.

[@Geekritique]

I'd argue this is more a case of fans wanting to find issue with something than it is an issue with the writing.

[@chronicguardian9684]

@@Geekritique Hold on, if it is established as a Jedi trait to sense danger (a disturbance in the Force) and here we have an expected danger (because they know someone is out killing Jedi) that they don't sense, how does that not at least raise your eyebrows?

[@alecjackman2655]

⁠@@chronicguardian9684This isn’t an entirely new concept. Like spider sense the force isn’t always reliable as we do see Jedi getting caught off guard at times. They’re cases where powerful force users such as Ventress were able to get the drop on her opponents in the midst of combat without them noticing. During her first encounter with both Anakin and Kenobi she was able to sneak in behind them without the Jedi noticing at first.

[@nicolasmiranda8452]

This is one of the best videos you have made on the channel, it has really made me happy

[@Geekritique]

I’m very happy you think so. I’m glad it’s made you happy!