How Many Solar Panels Are Needed To Charge A Tesla

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Many people underestimate the number of solar panels needed to offset the energy consumption of an electric vehicle and normal daily use. I will run an experiment with a DIY solar setup charging my Cybertruck all day to see how many miles of range we can add. Additionally, I will show you a calculator where you can enter in your own EV, daily range, solar panel size, and a few other factors to get the number of panels needed for your own use case.
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@brianmills4891
@brianmills4891 2 ай бұрын
We really need a DC to DC charging option for EV's the Conversion of DC solar input to AC battery output, back to DC battery is also inefficient.
@everydaysolar
@everydaysolar 2 ай бұрын
For sure, a LOT of loss. There isn't a good option for DC-to-DC on the market, right?
@brianmills4891
@brianmills4891 2 ай бұрын
Not that I’m aware of
@mnotlyon
@mnotlyon 2 ай бұрын
@@everydaysolar Charge controllers are technically DC to DC, but I'm not aware of one that outputs the 400 or 800 volts needed to charge the CT. You'd need a pretty good set of panels in a series to support that, and it would make the set up a bit more dangerous for amateurs.
@rynieryarom4277
@rynieryarom4277 2 ай бұрын
@@brianmills4891 the channel Out of Spec Reviews, just reviewed a small portable DC charger. It was meant for fleet charging, so there isn't a solar input. But I guess the tech isn't far off
@Remas20007
@Remas20007 2 ай бұрын
@@mnotlyon Most commercial panels don't support a system that is above 500 volts in series
@musashi-san____1409
@musashi-san____1409 2 ай бұрын
Smart putting the cardboard insulation. 👍
@mwaldyke
@mwaldyke 2 ай бұрын
Here’s my example: I have a 6 kW solar installation that is good for about 40 kWh on a sunny day. From this I can add about 20 kWh to my Model Y if the car is home and can be charged during the day. I get about 4 miles/kWh, so about 80 miles added in a day. That’s more than enough for my daily driving. The catch is that if my car is at work with me, it’s not charging at home. I have a Powerwall, but its capacity is 13.5 kWh (about 11 kWh if I maintain a 20% reserve on the battery), so that’s the most I can get if I charge the car at night from the Powerwall. And clouds, rain, or snow can dramatically lower the output of the panels. The panels and battery cover the entire load from the house during the day when electric rates are high, and I charge the car at night when rates are low, so it works pretty well for me.
@Juicememelord
@Juicememelord Ай бұрын
Wait... You bring in 40 kWh but your powerwall only holds 13.5 ....and you and 20 kWh to your car? How does that work?
@mwaldyke
@mwaldyke Ай бұрын
@@Juicememelord The solar panels also power the house during the day. Any leftover production goes into the grid, and I get paid for it. DTE Energy no longer offers net metering, so I get about half what they charge to send me power, but my excess production gets used and I get some money for it.
@ChristmasEve777
@ChristmasEve777 13 күн бұрын
@@mwaldyke DTE here in Michigan is bringing back Net Metering in (I think they said) October of this year, which is just next month. The program will have a different name but essentially be the same. I'm grandfathered in to Net Metering but the problem is that if they drop it completely and never reintroduce it, people grandfathered in only have a set number of years before it expires. It's a huge game. I dread having to use expensive batteries to store power. I like paying DTE $8 to $12 a month to be my 3 MWh battery.
@brianmills4891
@brianmills4891 2 ай бұрын
This is good to show for the sake of reality. I get asked all the time why Tesla doesn't make their roofs out of solar panels. People who have never used solar don't really understand the amount of panels and consistent sun it takes. That being said, whole home solar is very affordable these days and people also do not understand how quickly a solar system pays for itself when you're offsetting the cost of gasoline or diesel fuel in a vehicle. Residential solar paired with an EV or two is a very good combination for personal finances.
@Bercik87
@Bercik87 2 ай бұрын
There should be at least an option for solar panels. This maybe couldn't charge the car to full in reasonable amount of time but could reduce consumption while Sentry is on, or at least offset this annoying Vampire Drain.
@endstay
@endstay 2 ай бұрын
You may not realize that in California, where the sun is abundant, it now costs more (@ 48 cents per kWh) to fuel with the sun than with gasoline.
@CaseyMau
@CaseyMau 2 ай бұрын
@@endstayall the more reason to charge off the SUN than the grid. The point of DIY solar is you pay for the equipment up front and then get electricity for the life of the solar.
@whattheschmidt
@whattheschmidt Ай бұрын
22 panels (14 on my garage - 5.4kw and 8 on my house - 2.5kw) offsets all of my EV and my house electrical use every year. 9mwh per year or just under. Small house in Michigan. YMMV.
@koruki
@koruki 23 күн бұрын
It’s cause Nissan stuck a pathetic little panel on their spoiler pretending it does something lol
@Jferrari427
@Jferrari427 2 ай бұрын
Holy cow, that’s a lot more panels that I thought! Great video.
@everydaysolar
@everydaysolar 2 ай бұрын
Thanks for the feedback. It is surprising for 95% of people. Including me 🙂
@unaffiliated_x9279
@unaffiliated_x9279 2 ай бұрын
​@@everydaysolar Honestly, I thought it would take more panels.
@PeterSedesse
@PeterSedesse 2 ай бұрын
to be fair, he didn't put his solar panels out until late in the day, and his math was for the cybertrash, not for a normal EV.
@NanjingOrientalMetalworkCoLtd
@NanjingOrientalMetalworkCoLtd Ай бұрын
@@PeterSedesse And the panels are in quite old type. 9 pcs of modern same size panels can output max. 4+ kW power.
@hsew
@hsew 2 ай бұрын
In reality, you could build a 10kW solar charging array for about $10-15k DIY and that would be basically perfect for 80-120 miles per day depending on the vehicle.
@ahaveland
@ahaveland 2 ай бұрын
@@hsew pretty sure that's less than 10k now.
@macmcleod1188
@macmcleod1188 2 ай бұрын
And you probably would have a day a week you really didn't drive and that would slowly charge you up to full.
@SSJRapter
@SSJRapter 2 ай бұрын
10kw full setup without mounting is like 8k pre-rebate
@rxonmymind8362
@rxonmymind8362 2 ай бұрын
Basically need a farm of solar panels to charge a Tesla model x or truck.
@Willabeast
@Willabeast Ай бұрын
@@rxonmymind8362 as long as its not mounted to a house or tied to the power grids at all. maybe in this price but most places require it to be installed by professionals on a house
@erictstahl
@erictstahl 2 ай бұрын
I have a 1,800 watts of panels on my house roof with DIY victron charge controllers/inverter, and 2 206 ah batteries. I use it to charge my model 3 every day while the car is sitting around the garage. On a good day in the summer I get 25-30 miles of range. I get more miles charging during the day vs filling my solar batteries and then charging the car from them.
@philsmock4943
@philsmock4943 2 ай бұрын
Cybertruck and a Delta Pro 3. You the man. I really enjoy your videos. Keep them coming and thanks for sharing.
@everydaysolar
@everydaysolar 2 ай бұрын
Thanks Phil, I am starting to really like the Delta Pro 3 👍.
@philsmock4943
@philsmock4943 2 ай бұрын
@@everydaysolar From your review of the Delta Pro 3 it is way better than the Pro 2. I have a Delta Max and a Pro 3 would be a great upgrade.
@Yusufu-92
@Yusufu-92 2 ай бұрын
Very good experiment. Thanks for sharing and take care of yourself.
@tomc.4860
@tomc.4860 2 ай бұрын
My son and I built an electric car about 12 years ago. I drove it to work everyday and charged it at work. We thought about using solar power to charge the car but the problem was that the car was at my workplace all day when the sun was out and back at home at night. The only way we could figure to use solar power at home was to buy another battery pack big enough to store the energy that could then be transferred to the car in the evening. This proved to be way too expensive at the time so we could not use solar power. If you have solar power available at work where the car is all day then you're all set.
@everydaysolar
@everydaysolar 2 ай бұрын
That's sweet, did you guys retrofit an ICE car or build it from the ground up? What did you use for your battery pack?
@rynieryarom4277
@rynieryarom4277 2 ай бұрын
The channel @solarcannonballrun did this running a tesla from coast to coast. He had a portable system with theoretical power of 6.4kw, but 5kw real world. That took him something like 3 days to charge up his car each time. It's a cool setup with space and weight constraints
@everydaysolar
@everydaysolar 2 ай бұрын
I saw a few of those videos. That was a pretty cool test trying to get from coast to coast on only Sun Power.
@bradallen1832
@bradallen1832 2 ай бұрын
@@everydaysolar A robotic tent that puts itself up and has very thin solar membrane members so it can stow well probably would work better than strong hail-resistant panels made for home, but current tech is bad for that since it breaks when it is bent. For now, the big challenge would be packaging it in such a way that the panels remain totally flat and low weight. The robot helps, since it could do a consistent job each time, but programming and engineering all this would be costly, and out of range of most corporations on something with such thin margins like this. But if this is solved, then it could conceivably turn into as large an array as someone can afford; perhaps 20kW? That's a lot of space, and would require some tricky wind tech to handle gusts. Currently very very difficult, but not impossible.
@volvodashcam
@volvodashcam 2 ай бұрын
One think this shows is that with a pretty small setup you would still be able to have a working car in a total crisis where nothing around you works. Like after a big hurricane or other disaster. Even longterm you would be able to use the car/truck. That would not be doable with anything needing diesel or petrol.
@who6339
@who6339 Ай бұрын
Fuel can be stabilized for a very long time and is vastly more energy rich.
@volvodashcam
@volvodashcam Ай бұрын
@@who6339 Fuel like diesel and petrol can't be stores for long. It gets bad in a few months. You can buy special fuel and diesel for 2-3 times the cost that will have a longer lifetime. I used to do that when I used petrol for my lawnmower and snowblower before I switched to electic on those as well.
@davidbeppler3032
@davidbeppler3032 2 ай бұрын
Next do how many gallons of fuel to fill a gas car. Start with the energy required to pump it, transport it, store it, transport it again, refine it, transport it again, pump it again, then burn it.
@maximusjoseppi5904
@maximusjoseppi5904 2 ай бұрын
Would you like to talk about how many gallons of fuel it takes to make a battery? 🤣 The car battery in your ev required more diesel fuel to create than an f350's engine will consume in it's lifetime of service. Rare earth minerals are mined on the other side of the planet in huge mines with huge machines destroying countless acres of land and poisoning the earth with slave labor, then put on trucks to go to a container ship that travels 10,000 miles to the US where it takes more huge machines to put it on another truck to take it to battery factories...... Where an f350's diesel engine is made right here in the US. After all that, the 123kw lithium ion battery in my cybertruck is useless toxic waste cause it costs more to recycle it than it does for slave labor to get raw mats. Electric cars are not better for the environment on a grand scale, just as far as the nose.
@TheHoofSmith
@TheHoofSmith 2 ай бұрын
@@maximusjoseppi5904 That was back in the Tesla Roadster days. Now with every device on the planet moving to electric from laptops to phones to mowers to chainsaws. The recycling of Lithium has become easy and cheap and this is the first generation. Think of model T level of development in battery tech. Over the next 100 years wth solid state batteries and solar roof/windows your care will charge for free. Plus an upgrade to 2000mile batteries will be a swap out for common old EV's. Look at the 100 years of development of combustion engines.
@snakevenom4954
@snakevenom4954 2 ай бұрын
​​@@maximusjoseppi5904 Your first argument is extremely false. An ICE vehicle will pollute more from the fuel alone than producing an EV, the battery, and charging of the car for it's lifetime. Nevermind the cost of producing the ICE vehicle and maintaining it. My source is the ICCT paper called "A global comparison of the life-cycle greenhouse gas emissions of combustion engine and electric passenger vehicles."
@maximusjoseppi5904
@maximusjoseppi5904 2 ай бұрын
@@snakevenom4954 haha there's countless data and math, no studies needed, to prove what I said is true. A diesel engine is made in the United States, it never needed to cross the Atlantic Ocean on a tanker for any part of it. The battery components do.... That alone, not including the mining, uses more fuel than the engine will in its entire existence. If you want facts, never look at something called "life cycle of greenhouse gas emissions" 🤪🤣 They have an agenda literally in the title.
@yankeedoodle7693
@yankeedoodle7693 2 ай бұрын
@@TheHoofSmith find me one company that is currently recycling EV batteries and functioning in the black without federal grant money
@yeanswers
@yeanswers Ай бұрын
Epic insight. Literraly free fuel.
@tmmehedi
@tmmehedi 20 күн бұрын
Charging your tesla in home with solar is good idea , at least you can daily drive it totally free of cost.
@tris3s10
@tris3s10 Ай бұрын
This is great insight and true experience on what others may not have the capability to do. But I appreciate your testing and methodology. 18 miles may not get you far but it’ll definitely move the ball forward. I’d say depending on your scenario will dictate how effective this is. Also there are features you can turn off on the EV to manage your demand.
@evahsia
@evahsia 2 ай бұрын
Per your Cybertruck calculation: 30m/day * 365 days = 11,000 miles for a 3.57kW system. For actual results, I get 10.0 MWh per year from my roof system (7.62 kW rated, eastern WA, 4.4 solar hours, ~83%). That will give me about 20,000 miles per year at 0.48 kWh/mile in my F150 Lightning. (F150 Lightning is not on your list in the calculator, consider adding!)
@everydaysolar
@everydaysolar 2 ай бұрын
Great stuff and thanks for the feedback. I will get the Lightning added 👊
@timcat1004
@timcat1004 2 ай бұрын
Your math is way off. Try and get those numbers in December.
@whattheschmidt
@whattheschmidt Ай бұрын
@@timcat1004 You miss the point - he offsets across the year. As for the winter time, people tend to drive less during the winter as well, less trips and less driving on average typically. Who cares.
@ripvanstinkle
@ripvanstinkle 2 ай бұрын
That was actually more than I thought you’d get
@chrisregister8021
@chrisregister8021 2 ай бұрын
My question would be. How many stick on solar panels could you put on there? And how much would it extend your range while driving?
@MIkeKDBA
@MIkeKDBA Ай бұрын
It would probably be about the same or worse results. you can drive 320 miles on the interstate, which is the cybertruck range, in about 5 to 6 hours. During that time, you probably won't be able to get more than a few kwh from the sun. If you consider that the highest rated residential panels are about 500 watts and the battery capacity of the cybertruck is about 123 Kwh, you would need about 50 panels to collect that much power over a five hour period.
@macsvoltage5723
@macsvoltage5723 2 ай бұрын
I can't wait for dialog like : "Wearing this ring is like how a sinking boat floats".
@chadsway88
@chadsway88 2 ай бұрын
Great video, thanks for the info. Ideally, a foldable solar package that can charge the car directly or at least add 100 miles within a 1-2 day time frame. Also once portable battery packs come down in price, it’ll be great.
@graphguy
@graphguy 2 ай бұрын
Great practical experiment!
@everydaysolar
@everydaysolar 2 ай бұрын
Thanks!
@SirDragonClaw
@SirDragonClaw 2 ай бұрын
Your system had so many extra losses, another 20% for the in/out of the ecoflow. Also considering no one has cybertrucks and they require twice as much energy as most EVs like a Tesla model Y, you should have that for your range estimates.
@polarbearigloo
@polarbearigloo 2 ай бұрын
for all that utility im suprised they did not add a mppt in the bed for direct solar. and they do have bidirectional..
@Electronzap
@Electronzap 2 ай бұрын
Nice test, good info.
@everydaysolar
@everydaysolar 2 ай бұрын
Thx!
@JaySelle
@JaySelle 2 ай бұрын
Very cool. In an apocalypse situation you could go for years as long as not exceeding ~18 miles a day. While all gasoline vehicles would rust out. But more practically, this is a lot of money in charging and storage so it will never pay for itself. It’s just fun and because you can kind of thing.
@denisbalic3229
@denisbalic3229 Ай бұрын
This is great! I wish more people played around with charging on portable solar/wind. I think someone should do try to travel across the country charging only on their portable power systems.
@YeOldeTraveller
@YeOldeTraveller 7 күн бұрын
Already been done. Model 3 last year.
@macsvoltage5723
@macsvoltage5723 2 ай бұрын
The writers of this show are so talented, someone in this series might be encased in Carbonite before the end of this season!
@klaymoon1
@klaymoon1 Ай бұрын
Tesla needs to release DC to DC chargers for the homes with a Powerwall.
@everydaysolar
@everydaysolar Ай бұрын
That would be awesome!
@Oxazepam65
@Oxazepam65 2 ай бұрын
I use a special device to heat the interrior of my car during the cold months with solar power. That same device also allowes me to see outside the car without having to open the door.
@liamvg
@liamvg 10 күн бұрын
What is it?
@Oxazepam65
@Oxazepam65 10 күн бұрын
@@liamvg Windows
@sokmunky4104
@sokmunky4104 Ай бұрын
All I know is that even with home solar panels you don't make your money back until after like 7-10 years of continuous usage and that is as long as nothing goes wrong. So even then after cost you would have to do this regularly for years to really make the cost back.
@johnqcitizen9177
@johnqcitizen9177 2 ай бұрын
Great video. I thinking of buying the ecoflow 3 and some panels to offset my electricity for my M3 and Mx so this video was right on target for me. I also live in Illinois
@everydaysolar
@everydaysolar 2 ай бұрын
Yeah, it is doable and with the 2600W solar input of the DP3 that helps make the numbers a little better for offsetting daily driving needs. Also, take a look at the Ultra it might even be a better option since the solar input of the DPU is 5600W!
@johnqcitizen9177
@johnqcitizen9177 2 ай бұрын
@@everydaysolar thank you I will.
@jebediahkerman3946
@jebediahkerman3946 2 ай бұрын
This is why I want an Aptera. Up to 40 miles per day solar charging with the 700 watts onboard solar. If they could just get the dang thing into production.
@everydaysolar
@everydaysolar 2 ай бұрын
Yeah, I am rooting for them to make it but producing a car is not an easy task for sure.
@JWG2014
@JWG2014 3 күн бұрын
Kind of what I expected. I was thinking of using the Cyber truck as a battery - Putting some panels in the back yard - about double of what you had and when the power is out, use the truck as a battery. Im moving to Fl and well... hurricanes.. if the truck can charge a couple of days and get 50 miles then I dont have to worry about being stuck if the power says off
@teku412
@teku412 23 күн бұрын
This would make more sense for a more efficient car like a model 3. For the surface area, solar panels really need to double in efficiency at these DIY prices. It will happen, just need it to be here faster
@scanadaze
@scanadaze 2 ай бұрын
Most power stations are like a home. Only 40 amps. I own a power converter that is 5,000 watts at 500 amps. I always wandered what my power converter would do charging an EV. I have land. I haven't touched yet. It's 100% off grid. In the middle of nowhere. Why I want an EV but to be able to charge it on the property. Three nearest towns are 30 miles away each. Thanks for sharing.
@everydaysolar
@everydaysolar 2 ай бұрын
You bet, best of luck on your future project(s).
@YellowBoltTC
@YellowBoltTC 2 ай бұрын
Anything to show off the cybertruck lol
@everydaysolar
@everydaysolar 2 ай бұрын
Kind of but more realistically this is the only EV I own so it is going to be a bit of a guinea pig for the channel.
@RoadLifePursuits
@RoadLifePursuits 2 ай бұрын
I know right, had zero to do with the truck..lol
@wzDH106
@wzDH106 2 ай бұрын
Summer in the PNW - I'm usually able to fill my 10 kWh of DIY off grid batteries in a day using 1600 watts of solar. But after charging our Mini SE, that translates to a similar 7 kWh post losses. Still, a far more efficient vehicle offering up to 35 miles a day from the big ball of fusion in the sky.
@georgeinczauskis7871
@georgeinczauskis7871 2 ай бұрын
Great video.Some very useful information. More!
@markm6488
@markm6488 2 ай бұрын
It shows one thing, it is possible to charge an enormous EV with just a basic solar setup. It could come in very handy in a bad situation, especially if you can't get a hold of gasoline to run a generator or use a gas car.
@12vLife
@12vLife 7 күн бұрын
I know roof mounted solar will never be enough to charge the car for driving, but what if the goal in a future EV van, was to have 500 watts of solar on the roof so that running the OEM A/C while parked did not deplete the EV battery. Also wonder if this is a safe DIY project since we would be tapping into a very high volt battery and sophisticated electrical system. Worry it would void the warranty too. Would be awesome if future EV vans offered a safe interface input for solar input.
@tripzero0
@tripzero0 2 ай бұрын
This is similar to what im doing now. I charge up a bluetti ac300 6KWh bettery while im at work with solar (or at night during off peak) and charge my truck when i get home. It adds a 4-6% more juice. I only use 4% to work and back, so it works fine. Its anything extra i do during the day that sets me back. I probably need to expand to 12KWh or bring in the grid when the battery goes below 20% or so. I'm planning on doing both. I also want to put panels on the truck itself. My calculations suggest i can get 800W of panels over the bed and sunroof. If I go backpacking, I fugure I can get around 40 miles back with 800W over 4 days.
@Juicememelord
@Juicememelord Ай бұрын
At my house we have poles that have wires that bring electricity directly to my house. I just pay based on how much i use. Much cheaper and easier. You guys should look into it
@everydaysolar
@everydaysolar Ай бұрын
😂, sounds fancy.
@JFabric500
@JFabric500 2 ай бұрын
You should also add in the daily drop when Sentri mode is one. It’s close to .8 per day.
@chipchiperson679
@chipchiperson679 Ай бұрын
The fact that you have to provide shade for your power station instead of having a solar energy source for it is an oxymoron. When they come out with an all in one for that and the vehicle itself then it’s a real game changer.
@ThomasReedy-j6u
@ThomasReedy-j6u 2 ай бұрын
You just tested how many miles can be added to your truck using a 17amp source. That is limited by the strength of your solar inverter - not necessarily the solar panels. It would be much more instructive just to show the math rather than putting together a random setup.
@tmmehedi
@tmmehedi 2 ай бұрын
Solar panels can produce good amount of electricity but the amount need to charge your EV/Tesla is huge...
@maxh4195
@maxh4195 Ай бұрын
Cool idea. I’m not an engineer but is there a way to charge the EV without using the battery? I would think there’s a lot of waste charging a power station to then charge another power station.
@ethereal.fluffy
@ethereal.fluffy 2 ай бұрын
You can actually triple number panel using flexible panel
@everydaysolar
@everydaysolar 2 ай бұрын
In terms of what I can fit in the Cybertruck bed? I am trying to think through how to make a string of flexible panels that I could quickly pull out of the truck bed and easily pack back into the truck bed.
@whitlockbr
@whitlockbr 2 ай бұрын
Theres a fellow that did a 'solar cannonball run'(name of the youtube channel) using only solar panels and his model Y. He had 6kw of flexible 100 watt panels(they could be stacked like paper so took up less volume than your rigid panels) and they were angled toward the sun. It got him across the country... He used a different inverter/charge controller setup though because of the power input (6kw) What does that ecoflow top out at?
@majid_us
@majid_us 2 ай бұрын
I am adding this comment because I am not sure if the online calculator is clear enough for someone without technical background to fully understand it. The calculator is simply showing that one needs to use an inverter with ten 360-watt panels for 4.2 hours to add 30 miles to the Cyber Truck or 12KWH (0.4 KWH/mile * 30 miles). However, the calculator doesn't use KWH unit and is not aware of any battery storage (KWH). For example, you mentioned that you have 4KWH+4KWH of battery storage. So, "ideally", one can add 30 miles to the Cyber Truck much under 4.2 hours if the batteries are charged and the inverter is rated for the output current. The calculator is a good start but needs more parameters (e.g., battery KWH and amount of charge level). Average driver uses 30-50 miles per day and I have looked at the KWH numbers to get those miles and it requires a very small solar system (i.e., 10KWH for battery storage and 5KW rated inverter).
@ArtorMachine
@ArtorMachine 2 ай бұрын
Inspiring! Thanks for the video. 💯
@everydaysolar
@everydaysolar 2 ай бұрын
You bet!
@pro.rodrigoh
@pro.rodrigoh 2 ай бұрын
I have a Y and had a 3. I always though about using a setup like that but unfortunately for my need (150 miles/day average) it wouldn't cut :( One thing that you didn't mention was the price and when you would break even (in miles !) That is something I havent' seen around.
@thespencerowen
@thespencerowen 2 ай бұрын
This is the video content I like to see
@gregdoyle829
@gregdoyle829 2 ай бұрын
18 miles of range, wow very impressive.
@firesofcreation
@firesofcreation 26 күн бұрын
That was less than what I thought you’d get. How much did that setup cost you?
@AdrianMcDaid
@AdrianMcDaid 26 күн бұрын
How many are needed to charge electic vehicle. In short alot. Lots of sunshine. Required.
@chibiblaziken1587
@chibiblaziken1587 2 ай бұрын
I'm pretty sure the math would cut the number of needed panels in around half, at least nearly with 700w panels. The issue is the startup cost, The higher wattage panels you get the less panels you'll actually need which means you can fit more that accomplish more in less space. But also those same panels cost more making it hard for many to justify buying the better ones when they can barely afford the average 300ish watt panels from Amazon or what have you as is. Regardless I would be interested in seeing the difference on a diy settup using a few 700 watt panels In the same ground configuration or even leaving the truck bed on the cyber truck open and letting it charge through at least one of them while you're driving around to see if it makes a good dent or not. Regardless awesome video, the more information people get on these types of situations and setups the better informed they can be about making a decision.
@NickWindham
@NickWindham Ай бұрын
You need an ultra efficient EV, like the Aptera, for solar to add significant range. However, charging an Aptera from panels on your roof would be enough to be its sole source of energy.
@everydaysolar
@everydaysolar 29 күн бұрын
I hope they get to production. Sounds like they are production some "production intent" vehicles soon so they should be getting close 🤞.
@isiahfriedlander5559
@isiahfriedlander5559 23 күн бұрын
Reminds me of that book "The Martian"
@gregpochet4812
@gregpochet4812 2 ай бұрын
You should mention that not all EVs and EVSEs can change their amps. So if you use a 40 AMP EVSE with say a Bolt EUV, it would not work with this setup. I own a Bolt and ID4 and had to buy a EVSE that I could change the amps to charge at family and friends places. Great Video!
@mnotlyon
@mnotlyon 2 ай бұрын
Really? So if you were in a bind, you couldn't charge your Bolt with a standard extension cord?
@odnamrod
@odnamrod 2 ай бұрын
There are some losses when going PV -> battery then battery -> inverter. How much less overhead would there be if your battery was pre-charged to N% and the car was directly charged at a rate similar to what the panels would generate? The battery would serve as a volltage buffer for clouds/etc.
@DK-hv7xp
@DK-hv7xp 2 ай бұрын
You know… I was just thinking. What if… you could make a solar power driveway?
@ntsecrets
@ntsecrets 2 ай бұрын
I’d love to see a setup where there wasn’t any dc ac dc conversation going on.
@everydaysolar
@everydaysolar 2 ай бұрын
Me too, I continue to be on the lookout for a true DC to DC charger. 👍
@jessemitchem3880
@jessemitchem3880 2 ай бұрын
Basically tells us nothing. Also, how much loss is there from having the battery in between. 5, 20%? Seems like we lost a lot and didn’t account for it wisely at all
@Zellot360
@Zellot360 Ай бұрын
Not sure you meant to display your location from the Tesla app.
@uhjyuff2095
@uhjyuff2095 2 ай бұрын
This test shows how using 3000 watts of rated solar panels only outputs 1980 watts in real world.
@about2088
@about2088 2 ай бұрын
66% efficiency, that’s garbage lol
@bkanegson
@bkanegson 2 ай бұрын
These panels were not oriented to the sun. The shadows were long. Proper tilting up from where they were would have bumped output tremendously. Not a fair test; one hand tied behind their backs.
@matthewhuszarik4173
@matthewhuszarik4173 2 ай бұрын
The incident angle isn’t great laying them flat.
@MaxCaud
@MaxCaud 2 ай бұрын
@@bkanegson Well maybe from 66% to 70-75%. 66% is not "garbage"
@therealcmplx
@therealcmplx Ай бұрын
Tilting the panels will increase efficiency
@Maui-Love-808
@Maui-Love-808 Ай бұрын
Would be so much better if you could just hook panels up direct, without the redundant battery etc....(the car already is a giant battery!) whatever power comes in, that's what the car gets.
@moderngunguy3666
@moderngunguy3666 2 ай бұрын
You could have backed the truck all the way up to the end of the cement and put the panels in the grass where you would have been catching sunlight sooner
@everydaysolar
@everydaysolar 2 ай бұрын
Want to be able to mow the lawn that same day 🙂
@SlickEdge
@SlickEdge Ай бұрын
How many total solar panels can be attached to the Delta Pro 3 at once? Do you have all 9 of those 300W+ panels plugged into that single power station? During off-roading trips in something like a Cybertruck, is it possible to pack like 12 EcoFlow portable 400W solar panels, then also pack 2-3 Delta Pro 3’s & the EcoFlow Smart Home Panel 2, granting 100+ miles of range per day when stationary at a campsite? If that is possible, I’m surprised Tesla doesn’t sell their own portable solar panel pack, I know it would be crazy expensive but still.
@vidzilla1
@vidzilla1 Ай бұрын
Wow, I had no idea that the cyber truck was that inefficient, but then again, I am comparing it to my BMW i3 at 4.2 miles per kw.
@philiplaundy5651
@philiplaundy5651 2 ай бұрын
Seems like we’re miles away from solar car charging being a feasible option. No pun intended.
@everydaysolar
@everydaysolar 2 ай бұрын
The Cybertruck is a bit of an extreme example but agreed we have plenty of work to do.
@ahaveland
@ahaveland 2 ай бұрын
@@philiplaundy5651 physics and requirements dictate the feasibility, unfortunately. Solar panels will never likely be able to improve beyond twice their current performance and remain affordable. Still feasible with a much less thirsty EV and more idle time in a sunny country.
@tofan2622
@tofan2622 2 ай бұрын
Great video man.
@everydaysolar
@everydaysolar 2 ай бұрын
Thanks!
@brianyerington3798
@brianyerington3798 8 күн бұрын
Depends on where you live; in the California North Bay area, my commute is 120 a day - so, not being able to do such a commute on pixie dust and unicorn piss, I rely on good dependable gasoline. I'm okay with solar, but it has its limits, practicality speaking.
@michaelfoster3441
@michaelfoster3441 Ай бұрын
Great video Can you charge an electric car or electric truck using a Delta pro 3 and ecoflows Dual fuel smart generator combined , once the delta pro reaches 30% the smart generator can kick in at 2900 watts. And charge the delta pro back while you are charging the truck, could you charge the truck up fully using that method?
@jamesdiserio4020
@jamesdiserio4020 2 ай бұрын
Will an EV truck manufacturer ever put an MPPT input in the bed so u can charge it with panels - like on a campsite- for days when u are camping offgrid. Ecoflows solar generator works, but seems like it should be built into the vehicle.
@everydaysolar
@everydaysolar 2 ай бұрын
That would be cool and more efficient if we could go DC to DC.
@evchargerreviewsnet
@evchargerreviewsnet 2 ай бұрын
Cool test !
@BoBo-tx9sp
@BoBo-tx9sp 2 ай бұрын
Entirely unrelated question, but what kind of plants are growing on your garage?
@swilhelm3180
@swilhelm3180 24 күн бұрын
Can one not charge the car directly off the panels without charging the battery then discharging the battery by charging the car? Seems wasteful. Of course an inverter would be used to match up the voltage.
@benkanobe7500
@benkanobe7500 Ай бұрын
Isn't the question: "How many watts?" not how many panels?
@liveyourdream7102
@liveyourdream7102 2 ай бұрын
put all thoes solar panels on a trailer roof and trail it with your cybertruck charging whole day long directly your cyber truck.. 2 benefits you have a lot of space loading stuffs on the trailer and your cybetruck is always fully charged ;-) only bad aspect is the needed parking and turning space ;-)
@tomc.4860
@tomc.4860 2 ай бұрын
This big electric car uses a lot of power and so solar is a difficult sell. I ride an e-bike to work everyday and I do charge it off the solar panel in my RV. Because it's only a 12 amp hour battery it is very feasible to charge it off solar power
@MrGanbat84
@MrGanbat84 2 ай бұрын
Add BYD cars in the calculator
@benkanobe7500
@benkanobe7500 Ай бұрын
Would it hurt the Tesla if you cut out the Delta Pro battery and had an enphase Iq8 or Hoymiles 2000 micro inverter connected to the panels and then directly connected through the NEMA 50 to the Tesla's charger?
@iguanaman08
@iguanaman08 2 ай бұрын
It's so inefficient to have DC current from the panels to a power station which is AC. Then the Tesla has to convert back to DC to charge it. I have seen systems that charge an EV direct from panels to via DC to DC charging. Let's hope the price comes down though on these systems.
@PrestoMoto02
@PrestoMoto02 2 ай бұрын
You need about 20kw of solar if you drive it everyday
@Reelbassin
@Reelbassin 2 ай бұрын
its kind of crazy how much the capacity of EV batteries is. I would've thought 3kw would do more but that's the sad reality.
@johnkayak10
@johnkayak10 2 ай бұрын
So about $2.38 worth of diesel for my chevy Colorado 2.8 diesel that gets 25 miles per gallon How many days equals payback for the cost of that equipment?
@charlesk46563
@charlesk46563 2 ай бұрын
Saved around $3 a day on gas, around $1000 a year, solar panels at $300 x 10= $3000 ecoflo delta $2000 wires and controllers $500 total around $5500 so it would pay for it self in only around 6 years.
@anthonymalovrh2912
@anthonymalovrh2912 Ай бұрын
Calculator did not work for me. Have had solar since 2008.
@everydaysolar
@everydaysolar Ай бұрын
Hmmm, thanks for letting me know. What web browser are you using?
@23rdsphotographyandaerials93
@23rdsphotographyandaerials93 Ай бұрын
You only need one but have to wait 12 months for it to charge 😂
@everydaysolar
@everydaysolar Ай бұрын
Sounds about right 😂
@greggg4011
@greggg4011 2 ай бұрын
Using your method you're going to use up battery cycles. Why aren't you trying to generate 660W and using the 110 charging plug?
@PeterSedesse
@PeterSedesse 2 ай бұрын
The easier math is this. On an average day, you can charge about 30 miles of charge per1000 watts of panels in good weather for a regular ev (not the cybertrash). But that is well placed panels that are going from sunrise to sunset. You didn't really start yours until 11am? I mean I looked at :15 and you were setting your panels out in the shade and it was clearly daylight already. 30miles per 1000 watts per day.
@rustyheyman214
@rustyheyman214 2 ай бұрын
Interesting. Renting with a plug in and work from home in SoCal. Would like cheap and easy portable system to charge my car.
@keithrosenberg5486
@keithrosenberg5486 2 ай бұрын
Obviously if you do a lot of driving, you will need a lot of solar panels to charge your Tesla. Or a grid connection. Now for a word problem in mathematics. Calculate going across the US in your Tesla using nothing but the solar system it can carry along. How long would the trip take?
@everydaysolar
@everydaysolar 2 ай бұрын
There was a guy recently that did a "Solar Cannonball" run coast-to-coast and took around 60 days.
@keithrosenberg5486
@keithrosenberg5486 2 ай бұрын
@@everydaysolar That does not surprise me.
@DxModel219
@DxModel219 2 ай бұрын
the problem with pro installed vs diy is a pro install is 10x this cost vs diy with maybe 60% the effectiveness
@6YJI9
@6YJI9 Ай бұрын
I am watching this video at 2am and under the influence of medication & alcohol, but it does sound like to me that the math ain't mathing around the 6:00 mark. You're talking about only adding 7 kwh worth of energy into the cybertruck total, but then at the same time mentioning having a 3 kw solar system. So the way I look at it is, your 3kw solar system would produce 3kw/h, you waiting to start counting at 10am would still give you a very good decent amount of solar energy with let's say 6hrs, so 6hrs times 3kwh equals 18kwh sent over to the cybertruck. I don't think my math is wrong, or that I'm missing something. But at the same time, I want to ask everyone else if his estimate/logic seems off, or if it's me indeed missing something?
@Madsci-zy8wm
@Madsci-zy8wm 2 ай бұрын
Because that cheap, high frequency, transformerless inverter offers no galvanic isolation between its DC boost stage and its AC output, one day you will fry your EV's onboard charger and will void your EV's warranty. If you want to safely charge your EV with solar, you should be using a low frequency, transformer based inverter.
@everydaysolar
@everydaysolar 2 ай бұрын
I wasn't under the impression Tesla had any restrictions on what type of outlet is used for charging in their terms and conditions.
@ag4eng
@ag4eng 2 ай бұрын
Doesn’t seem to be worth because the panels+battery will be expensive and 1/3 loss is not very efficient.
@Terrillthegreat79
@Terrillthegreat79 2 ай бұрын
Any thoughts on the EV roof rack solar systems? Would you review them?
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