Is the Chinese-Built BYD Shark BETTER Than the All-American Tesla Cybertruck & Rivian R1T?

[@ins344]

When US is dominating the market: "Free market! Let the consumer decide! No more restrictions!" When China comes up with a great product: "Yeah, let's charge 100% tariffs". 🤪

[@WhiteWolfos]

Only because that would destroy the banker backed car markets by a landslide. Us manufacturing is more expensive paying more for resources and employee rates. So if you want to buy a Chinese car and import it's 100% tariff aka the same price as a cyber truck/rivian.

[@pbm___000]

bot

[@pbear216]

China hasn't come up with any "amazing technology", they simply copy others.

[@tren133]

@@WhiteWolfos That's not even what the 100% tariff is for. You legally CANNOT self import (AKA gray import or parallel) a car into the United States and be able to legally register it for road use until it is 25 years old. So even if you are personally willing to buy a BYD in Mexico, China, wherever and pay the 100% tariff, you still not allowed to do it. The only way to legally sell a new car in the US is for the manufacture to come set up sales and service networks. Which is why the 100% tariff was put into place. It is basically telling the Chinese carmakers don't even bother thinking about legally importing cars into the US market for sale.

[@Leonard-nb7jk]

It’s literally left wing unions pushing the tariffs but go off shill

[@ELECTROFELO1]

Here in Mexico BYD is growing very rapidly, 3 months ago, I took ownership of the SONG plus SUV, and I am impressed with the quality of the vehicle,and also it'sincredible efficiency( Former Audi,Mercedes and BMW owner)

[@orovalleyview8103]

Yeah built by slave labor in China or if built in Mexico same

[@李青松-o2r]

Congrats

[@jamesverner9132]

I'm sorry America is the most buthurt country in the world. Love from Canada

[@yooyo3d]

Chinese may not get to the US market, but they will sell their cars worldwide. Good luck to American car brands competing on the world market.

[@alexklein455]

They don't need to

[@alexklein455]

@@gneluap considering buick is one of the best selling brands in China, we have nothing to worry about lmao

[@Sinkorswim1225]

They never did. They don't have to.

[@tucakov91]

​@@alexklein455Buick's market share in China is 3.1%, and that makes 80% of their worldwide sales. BYD has a 37% market share in China and has actually sold more EVs than Tesla in 2023. I would be worried.

[@nipponsuxs]

​@@alexklein455GM is getting crushed in China

[@davidrumsey3180]

Here in New Zealand, the BYD battery electric vehicles (e.g.Atto 3) have become one of the most popular EVs on the market. Every owner I have spoken to is very happy with their purchase. Toyota has announced that for their next BEV, they will be using BYD electric motors and electronics. If Toyota is happy with the engineering and reliability of BYD drivetrains, that says something...

[@dreamon220]

Christchurch here an no you are so wrong byd have corrosion issues software problems and btw the Ford Ranger is still king of sales!

[@dingyi6891]

​​@@dreamon220 I am in Christchurch, I love my BYD. no issues at all after 2 and half years driving it!

[@Huwadwink]

​@dreamon220 that's all? 😂

[@mduduzibhebhe4268]

I read an article that Rivian bought a byd to study it to understand how its so efficiently made.

[@jogana6909]

I like BYD cars.

[@gangpw924]

100% tariff should give you some idea how good the BYD

[@AlfarrisiMuammar]

This vehicle is $40,500 + 16% Mexican tax = $47,000. So if this car get 100% US tax = $81,000

[@Huwadwink]

No it's just geopolitics.

[@Rooboy-619]

The tariff is for a vehicle 100% subsidized by the CCP, which gives BYD a competitive advantage since they don't have to worry about profit margins.

[@AlfarrisiMuammar]

@@Rooboy-619 US subsidizes car and oil industry.

[@XenglenangUS7197]

@@AlfarrisiMuammar last time I visited China, I visited BYD's factory in Hunan, China, and then I went to the retailers in Changsha and the retailers in Chongqing, and they quoted me 27,500 for the regular version, plus tax exemption. This is the local quote in China

[@futo]

FYI, Toyota is quietly working with BYD to use BYD hybrid platform

[@满城風雪]

The average American cannot enjoy high-quality and low-priced products from the world market. Who is to blame! ?

[@pablerry]

@@满城風雪 the elite, there is no free market in the US, its an oligarchy where everything is designed to benefit the elite.

[@科普头像]

The Toyota bz3 and bzx4 use BYD motors, batteries and electrical controls

[@portlanddrums]

They better if they wanna stay in business. Theyre way behind

[@futo]

@@portlanddrums not only that, Toyota is also trying to stay ahead of their home competition rivalry, because Honda is working with Nissan to produce some EV...and don't know when that will be release

[@carsonassociates3263]

The thing that matters most is that the BYD is HALF the price of the Cybertruck or Rivian. If this vehicle were allowed to sell at MSRP in the USA, the truck market would be forever changed, and the UAW would be terminally ill.

[@TarulWarlord]

Half the price is because of slave labour, absolutely no rights for the workers and billions of dollars in subsidy by the Chinese government.

[@gardoni]

Yes, but that’s because it’s an hybrid with a very small battery ( most expensive part for electric vehicles) it is more appropriate to compare the BYD vs. an ICE pickup. 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@AuralioCabal]

UAW is terminally ill no matter how you look at it.😂

[@billybobbob3003]

THE NISSAN FRONTIER IS BETTER THAN ALL OF THESE TRUCKS

[@bunsw2070]

The unionized workers aren't the problem. They have incredibly difficult jobs that don't pay very well. The union executive is a big problem (all unions are corrupt) but the main problem is management. They're management experts only concerned about keeping their jobs. And you have to realize that the cost to the environment of these Chinese vehicles is tremendous. They're made with coal in a country with almost zero environmental restrictions. What are we trying to save here? The environment? So we can virtue signal by driving an EV that caused outsized environmental damage in it's manufacture? And the Rivian is impossible to fix.

[@andywang7052]

The bad thing is that we have done almost nothing except adding tariffs. High tariffs will not prevent the progress of Chinese cars, nor will they make American cars stronger.

[@strokerta1986]

Lmao actually it will... Tarrifs when used properly, protect your market from government subsidized take overs... People like your self should have no opinion because you very clearly don't see what china is doing lol They will subsidize their companies long enough to crush your domestic companies, and then start increasing prices after their is no more domestic competition... At that point you will fund china, or you won't have a car... The US knows this is china's plan, so they employ Tarrifs to stop it... China has used this strategy many many times in the past.

[@ganbatsteel9284]

BYD

[@PeteLenz]

High tariffs will drive them to build North American plants - increasing the problem!

[@treborheminway3814]

Wait. The US auto mfgs are in fact doing alot, it's just that it's all in huge, unearned CEO pay. Meanwhile, they chase the tail of different markets, while claiming to " have done it".

[@andywang7052]

@@PeteLenz If they build factories in the United States, at least they can generate jobs and tax revenue, and promote competition among American automakers. The worst case scenario is that they build factories in Mexico or Canada and sell them to the United States with zero tariffs, and the United States gets nothing. The Chinese have actually built factories in Mexico and sell their own products. The "Wuling" 310C car even uses the Chevrolet logo and is sold in Mexico. Soon we will be able to drive American-branded, Mexico-made of china cars.

I own a BYD Dolphin in Thailand and these Chinese cars have evolved a lot the last years. Most of them have now European designers. The quality is very good. BYD dominates the Thai EV market.

[@angelozhangS]

As of design, BYD's chef designer is actually Wolfgang Egger, former designer of Audi, Alfa Romeo, he designed one of the most beautiful car in 21st century: Alfa Romeo 8C. After he's on board BYD has thrown away their history of copying Toyotas, Mercedes. So I'm quite shocked that the Shark has a f150 face. I hope their next gen would came up with sth. bold and unique like their sedan, SUV lineup.

[@shemshap]

i visited thailand in march for the first time and byd's were everywhere in phuket, i checked out the seal there and was so jealous it's not in my country, i'd love that car if it could get it

@@shemshap Yes, the Seal looks amazing and outsells the Honda Accord and Toyota Camry. I tested the Seal and it drives very well. But the Seal is too large for me and I don’t like the traditional trunk.

[@NACHITOGALLO]

@@shemshap

[@sis-l1i]

Copycopycopycopycopycopy and some variation. Infinitely repeating like a Möbius strip.

[@tonys9413]

As an owner of a Polestar car (Chinese built), build quality is as good as any of the German, Swede, Japanese cars that I’ve owned. The two worst cars were American made.

[@remix-yy1hs]

Americans live in a bubble. They really think they make good cars 😂😂

[@ELCEV]

But you still have software that's not up to current standards.

[@dzonikg]

@@ELCEV POlestar has google

[@andrewdubose9968]

Since you mentioned Swedish cars, would you like to know more about Polestar’s provenance?

[@935_moby_dick]

Lol i have polestar 2 and now I'm going to have polestar 4😅

[@szhou008]

Chinese sold 25 millions cars domestically every year. The competitions in build quality, fuel efficiency, technology, service and price are extremely fierce.

[@yourtemp6135]

Over 30 millions a year.

[@مرواریدمشرقزمین]

The latest data is 30 million

[@妮姆芙-o3z]

China has surpassed Germany and Japan in terms of automobile exports for three consecutive years, becoming the world's largest automobile exporting country

[@batmanlives6456]

But not as fierce as the fires they start !!!

[@Demertech]

@@batmanlives6456 thats bullshit propaganda, tesla uses chinese batteries too and all EV batteries catch on fire if they are penetrated, the only one which wont is BYDs blade battery which is immune to exploding like a tesla..

[@jesusserrano8769]

I sold my 2019 Tacoma TRD sport and i bought a BYD shark, no regrets , i was a little skeptical about quality but they are pretty solid trucks, and im a toyota guy, i still keep my 01 Taco Prerunner

[@Musicformybuddies]

im about to sell my tacoma 2021 trd sport! this shark looks awesome

[@coveben959]

@@jesusserrano8769 I good to see that I was also skeptical with BYD, but I buy the King instead a Prius and I was amazed to the level that I'm looking for the Shark

[@rdeh1678]

What sucks if you ever move to usa or Canada you could not bring your truck

[@cheeto1hot]

If BYD was sold in the USA it will definitely make the market competitive again.

[@remix-yy1hs]

Yes it would, byd and geely, owner of volvo. And gwm and huawei. You missing so much

[@NomenClature-o8s]

@@cheeto1hot No, it would shut down the American market. Just like the textile market which went overseas.

[@mcnuggetapple]

@@NomenClature-o8swe’re getting the most expensive vehicles ever with the worst quality control we’ve ever had

[@mcnuggetapple]

@@NomenClature-o8sbring the Chinese trucks so they can figure out what to do

[@NomenClature-o8s]

@@mcnuggetapple it would be much more honest of you just to say you’re in favor of shutting down the United States auto industry.

[@xiaozhong5198]

smuggle BYD will be more profitable than drugs in USA one day😂😂😂

[@yslee1401]

@@xiaozhong5198 BYDs are best used as a herse. The dead may get a free cremation when it goes thermal runaway

[@minhazsikder1002]

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@MrGanbat84]

I am from Mongolia, I definitely buy byd with no regret.

[@Grrzyy]

China doesn't care about a country with 3,000,000 people. A failed country with failed citizens. Whether you buy or not, it doesn't determine anything. A failed country with extreme nationalism. Your citizens are only worthy of buying second-hand garbage trucks from Japan and South Korea. Who cares about you?

[@jinchaosu]

qin？ 秦

[@yuejuanzhang6024]

元 alto3😂

[@mysticman1671]

if that BYD truck was allowed to be sold in the US market and sell at under 50k ; I would buy one for sure and I think that BYD would sell a lot of them here !

[@DaleWilly]

No they wouldn't

[@ThunderandLightningEvPickup]

Bought my f150 lightning for 37k

[@robfern66]

Wow! Great deal. Was it new or used?​@@ThunderandLightningEvPickup

[@kbram7363]

@@ThunderandLightningEvPickupreally?

[@AdiGV]

@@ThunderandLightningEvPickup 🤣 🤣🤣🤣 Try Stand Up as well.

[@wassimratel2133]

The craziest part is that it's their first pickup truck ever!!!

[@wassimratel2133]

​@@billybobbob3003Does it have a 30 kWh battery? And how much does it cost in Mexico?

[@ーーーーーーーーーーーーーーーーーーーーーーーーーーーーヅ]

No. china copied many many car designs including trucks

[@JeremyKennelly]

to be clear, also tesla and rivian's first trucks ...

[@uncledeeproductions8854]

BYD nailed it !

[@JeremyZ22]

It's all of these companies first truck lol

[@nikonmark37814]

The BYD truck would put American made trucks out of business that's why the Chinese aren't allowed to compete, it's called protectionism and we did that to Japanese made vehichles in the 60's until they started being built in the USA!

[@TheSterlingArcher16]

It’s all so stupid. We screw over all US consumers with higher prices to help out a relative handful of autoworkers. If we did this to all industries the US would implode.

[@王班超]

哦是吗？那你就等着吧，全球又不是只有你们美国能卖车。没有美国市场对于中国来说真的很无所谓，毕竟销量增幅在那摆着。而且现在byd产能貌似有些不足。

[@taotao98103]

It's protectionism, but the American government said it was over production.

[@Lo-sy9fz]

Lol no they wouldn't.

[@taotao98103]

@@Lo-sy9fz Are you sure? Remember 2008? American government had to bail a few American car makers out. Otherwise, at least 3 American car makers would have gone out of business.

[@ericawong2135]

Rivian will sell 57,000 vehicles this year. BYD will sell 4,000,000. They're not even remotely comparable companies. One of the problems with Rivian is you don't know how much longer the company will stay in business.

[@louiepierce1692]

@@ericawong2135 BYD has been around for 30 years, Rivian is startup. So yeah they are different. If BYD wants to sell cars here then they should build them here just like the Japanese do. Tesla builds cars in china to sell in… CHINA.

[@alanOHALAN]

@@louiepierce1692 I don't the US politicians will allow Chinese companies to setup factories in the US.

[@DaRealRoachDoggJr]

Look at the Chinese population in numbers compared to America what do you expect

[@MMA-gb6to]

@@louiepierce1692 i bet they won't trust US government anymore - they shouldn't - one day US will confiscate their factory for sure

[@karimroufaou3579]

​@@louiepierce1692 have you forgotten the US no longer willing to receive Chinese investments in it?

[@jorgenor]

The price that you mentioned for the BYD Shark includes a 16% sales tax, to have a better idea of what the cost could be in USA, it would be better to deduct that sales tax. There are two version for sale in Mexico right now, and their current cost (deducting sales tax for USA comparisson) is $38,610 and $41,580 USD.

[@ShihanQu]

Deduct 16% tax and add 100% tariff

[@inquisitvem6723]

@@ShihanQu even if no tariffs, the dealerships in the US will jack up the prices. Their predatory pricing will deter people from buying.

[@foxtrotwolf6081]

@@inquisitvem6723 Here's to hoping they don't buy into the dealership model.

[@ShihanQu]

@@inquisitvem6723 You're assuming BYD would be sold by dealerships? Don't see why they wouldn't follow a direct to consumer model

[@inquisitvem6723]

@@ShihanQu I hope you’re right. I hate dealerships

[@lionheart3025]

Sorry for my bad English. But I want to say that the middle and senior managers of Chinese car companies have experienced hardship. Many of them come from poor backgrounds. Their philosophy is to build cars for the people, not for the capitalists. Through continuous efforts, it has been proven that the Chinese can manufacture vehicles with reliable quality and affordable prices. I struggled with this for 20 years. I hope everyone can have the opportunity to choose a high-quality and affordable car.

[@LiTang-t7g]

说的太高尚了，无非是中国人力成本底，产业链健全。😂

[@exga29]

Very true, China has pathed an exclusive lane in the EV market of high build quality and reliable battery.

[@统一台湾-l2n]

国人总是有种奇怪的癖好就是先道歉，你为什么要为英语不标准道歉呢，就算是老外也不都是说的很标准，每次看到你这样的评论都让我很难受，以后别先道歉了好吗😅

[@vjthemad4852]

@LiTang-t7g 说的太对了，还有发达的物流交通，当然还有政府补贴也是非常关键，这些因素使byd有极大的成本优势，这100多个点赞的估计都是专门翻墙出来看老外夸中国的未成年😂

[@paulb1951]

Anyone who’s owned an LDV will tell you about the rust issues 😂. Bots posting on such content doesn’t change that.

[@zimuli3549]

In the past 20 years, BYD's power system has evolved to the fifth generation and is widely used in many household cars and taxis in China. This power system has been proven to be very mature and reliable. BYD, with its PHEV powertrain and unique EV and battery technology, has surpassed the German and Japanese car brands with the highest market share, becoming the best-selling brand in China, the world's largest automotive market. The originally expensive German and Japanese cars have significantly reduced in price and sales, even the second-hand cars of these brands have depreciated crazily.

[@_CarlosA]

A vehicle like this would take over the truck market. Let these companies COMPETE! We're falling behind the world's tech by protecting our domestic market which are overpricing dated technology. Let the market decide what succeeds.

[@calumkylee]

The US is all about 'free-market capitalism' until the socialists are better at capitalism than the capitalists are LOL

[@jlv3x]

Ram is releasing a similar truck in 2025 with Ramcharger, I believe people will flock to it because it's a plug in electric vehicle with a gas generator that eliminates range concerns. These type of plugin hybrids are what auto makers should have released first instead of fully electric trucks.

[@garysarratt1]

You’ve never heard of Toyota, BMW, etc?

[@TJ-mn1gx]

@@jlv3x According to my AI friend, the MSRP for the Ram1500 REV is expected to start at $57k for a base model, a loaded version will top $100k

[@civicilian]

No we aren't. For half the money you get half the capability, just like the current market

[@jesusserrano8769]

The problem with u.s. EV trucks they seem to be built as funny toys for rich ones, the BYD feels like a real usable truck !

[@lttntzttnt]

absolutely, just check cybertruck, which is a joke

[@Phrancis5]

Agreed. It's also more of a traditional looking truck and with a more practical "series-hybrid" drive train, so I guess it would compete with the Ford Ranger hybrid if it were allowed in the US.

[@妮姆芙-o3z]

@@lttntzttnt Cyber trucks cannot be sold in China temporarily because China requires the front of the truck not to be too hard, as it may seriously injure pedestrians in a car accident

[@DonaldTuan]

Interesting

[@Scott-u1q]

​@@Phrancis5 it's a series / parallel hybrid. In my location it is going to compete directly with the ranger PHEV, when they both launch in a couple of months. Byd has double the electric range, but the ranger phev gets a higher tow rating.

[@passby8070]

Luckily we are here in Australia will have access to this truck for less than the Mexican price, it will be a perfect camping truck for me carry very thing I need + all the creature comfort electric appliances that won't normally make sense when driving a ICE vehicle. I am looking forward to see it in metal.

[@christover1]

Me too.

[@doublebackagain4311]

Please report back when you find it is junk just like the Chinese EV cars.

[@christover1]

@@doublebackagain4311 Mexico and New Zealand get them first, so we Aussies should get our reports from them before we see them here.

[@MichaelSmith-px1ev]

It would be good to have the choice of all Utes / Pick Up’s in Australia. For people who think that Chinese EV’s are junk my advice is to drive one. They used to say Japanese and Korean cars are junk and look what happened. At the end of the day value for money matters and regardless of your political or social views things change.

[@christover1]

@MichaelSmith-px1ev I survived the hatred of Japanese cars when they took over, so have heard all the anti before.

[@interiorsretailfacts]

This really shows we are all overpaying in North America and mega bucks going into the big corporation pockets. We need affordable and good quality vehicles from BYD in US and Canada. Let the consumers choose!

[@rbfarrell1]

Don't forget the unions that push for higher wages and benefits. I can see many more American car companies moving to Mexico.

[@ramoraid]

​@@rbfarrell1it's not the workers fault the blame lies with investors

[@smokindauberdoo4208]

​@@ramoraidCEOs

[@kanat_evcars]

I am the owner BYD Leopard 5 (Fang Cheng Bao) good SUV 677hp, same technology in BYD Shark

[@shawnhe6180]

looks both is based same platform

[@夏君-k3i]

兄弟，鲨鱼是哪款车？

[@shawnhe6180]

@@夏君-k3i byd pickup

[@夏君-k3i]

@@shawnhe6180 我还没见过这车

[@testy010]

I think the BYD is the most convenient of all of them, no range anxiety to be your worry, would have loved to meet you guys while on El Paso! We don’t get many celebrities on our town

[@ajaylal5892]

That's because it's primarily a ICE vehicle with a 30kw battery i.e a stock standard hybrid. And what range anxiety. I've never had an issue with EVs. Do you get range anxiety with your mobile phone? No, because you charge it when needed and if going long distances, plan to charge it as needed

[@yummytummy88]

​@@ajaylal5892not every event in life is planned.

[@jakeko]

@@ajaylal5892 Texas distances are humongous, 300miles from charging points, you will need to tow your own charger if you planning to have a road trip.

[@OW3N_HE]

Actually, the BYD SHARK is not sold in China either; we can only see reviews of it here. The BYD SHARK likely uses the same DMO Super Hybrid system as the BYD Fang Cheng Bao 5 (Fang cheng bao bao 5), which delivers 670 horsepower in the Fang Cheng Bao 5. Many people may not fully understand how the DMO system works. DMO is similar to DM-p and DM-i systems, where at low speeds the gasoline engine is used to generate electricity, and when the speed exceeds a certain point, around 90+ km/h, the engine can directly drive the vehicle. The next model on the DMO platform will feature a 2.0T engine.

[@jasonli794]

I am driving a Bao5 been 5months. it’s perfect .....

[@Quotes_ForLife]

much better, thanks byd, a pick up with full of features, low cost to run and maintain (Chinese spare parts are cheap), and the most important are affordable to buy. In my opinion in the next 3 to 5 years byd is going to dominate in the car Industry!!

[@wanmorais4087]

BYD is the world's largest manufacturer of electrified vehicles, and will soon be the largest manufacturer of vehicles of all types!

[@meeks133]

BYD test drive starts at 18:30.

[@maoss40]

Thanks

[@满城風雪]

Chinese people are smart. From the bottom rough workers, to the successful imitators in the middle, to the great high-end innovators, they lead the world trend. It is really precious.

[@AVB_777]

Bottom rough slaves 😂

[@maxe.1204]

Define smart? if you steal intellectual property that cost someone big money in R&D and then pass it on to your people for free to now try and reproduce. You can call that smart, sure you can. But it's not the same and the people who R&D it, those are the smart ones. Thats a fact.

[@jonathanqiao2295]

As a BYD car owner in China, let me explain how to start the engine. First, switch the mode from EV to HEV. Then, change the intelligent power-saving mode to forced power-saving mode and set the forced power-saving level to the highest. When the battery level drops below the forced power-saving threshold, the engine will start. *some key word translations may be different.

[@remix-yy1hs]

Thanks

[@davidmenasco5743]

This is very interesting. It sounds like the Shark is designed so that it can be driven with the combustion engine off. This is a very important feature and something that all EREVs should do.

[@aussie2uGA]

@@davidmenasco5743 All new stuff destined to be sold in the EU must support about 25 miles in engine off mode for city center use.

[@xuray6082]

Yeah there is an ev/hev button . U can drive it like a pure ev.​@@davidmenasco5743

[@saptarshisanyal]

Is there a key I can turn? Does the car have a label printer so that I can put this on the windshield? This sounds like my class 8 chemistry exam

[@Barrett_Fodder]

A LOT of people in here have no idea how an engine driven generator for electric drive actually works. People claiming this thing couldn't tow must have missed how locomotives move more weight per unit of power more efficiently than anything else we have out there. That's a fossil fuel engine powering a generator to drive electric motors...sound familiar?

[@D3athM3tal-i4c]

Your views are to complex for a lot of people, but great explanation

[@zhengzeng1515]

Another good example is the hybrid mining dump truck which can easily carry 200T payload.

[@Nphen]

Great point on EV torque capabilities. I looked up the towing on the Shark. It's only 5000 pounds. Cybertruck & Rivian are 11,000lbs. Rated. Of course they can all tow a train, slowly, if that's your thing. I love the idea of Cybertruck & Rivian, and they're more capable than the Shark, but I hope to see bigger hybrid trucks with bigger battery packs for commercial & RV use. Edison Motors is refitting semi trucks & work trucks with 250 kWh batteries & motors and a diesel generator. Making an F450 size truck & van with 100 kWh and a generator is the current untapped market.

[@jimmykelly2809]

@@Barrett_Fodder Chevy volt

[@ryanbernard89]

Doesn’t mean much when it has the same tow rating as a 1995 Crown Vic

[@glennO-e9r]

I’ve worked at Ford dealers for over 16 years combined in Australia. I’m now driving a SAIC MG MG4 EV. Unfortunately Ford cannot compete.

[@DavidGamersChannel]

Ford CEO drives Xiaomi Su7

[@juanmj93]

You guys should try to get more BYD's from Mexico to test, I bet you'd like the Seal, the Seagull, etc

[@PickensDon]

Yes! I live in Mexico and just bought a BYD Yuan Plus EV (called Atto 3 in other markets) for about $30k usd it blows the others away for value and tech.

[@Ricer-b4n]

​@PickensDon That means it'll be 100k here in the US assuming byd meet all US regulations. With it's unproven safety and reliability issues, it'll cost the average American 300k so no americans in their right minds will be taking a risk on an overpriced inferior unproven product. This is why vinfast is struggling amd losing billions trying to sell their vehicles here. N0body wants them.. But mexico doesn't have high standards when it comes to safety and reliability and yall dont have as many lawyers to go after manufacturers when things go bad. I hope you don't get into any accidents.

[@kiendao2818]

​@@Ricer-b4nfunny story

[@PickensDon]

@@Ricer-b4ngood thing the Yuan Plus has sold over a half million units then as BYD’s most popular EV in the EU, Australia , Southeast Asia and Latin America. It received 5 stars in European crash testing. Yes, some Chinese cars are poor quality. Not BYD. So were many Japanese and Korean cars at first.

[@israelmiranda4614]

Cuando prueben los sedanes se van a caer de espaldas , BYD es una de la mejores marcas globales

[@Scotty_in_Ohio]

This was the sort of vehicle I was looking for when I purchased my Santa Cruz back in '21 - midsize /small pickup truck with nice interior quality and that's a hybrid. All of the videos showing off BYD products seem to call out the decent, if not exceptional quality of the interior and overall build - features and technology are well above the usual domestic manufacturers.

[@exploringnations269]

Been in Brazil for a long time, BYD are every where here! Seen some Uber drivers with 150k miles and zero battery deg, going strong. And for cheap

[@AnythingUnderTheMoon]

Zero? You sure? Did you look at the individual cells? Lol

[@exploringnations269]

@@AnythingUnderTheMoon not sure if they looked into that, but 150k and getting the same rated range. Im still a gas guy, but for city, and prices of gas here in Brazil, if they get 300k miles off the car, they paid the car off 2 times only on gas savings, pretty good I think

[@georgepelton5645]

The BYD would be a good option for long range towing with a 5000 lb. travel trailer. Nice alternative to the upcoming Dodge RAM EREV pickup, for people that want something smaller. Nice truck, and good value for the price.

[@allencrider]

Towing 5000 lb travel trailer with a puny little 1.5 liter 4 cylinder engine? You really think that's a good idea?

[@waterloo123100]

My Jeep ZJ with the 5.2 would do better then that noodle can

[@alsheremeta]

@@allencrider Like they stated in the video, it has 450 hp from the electric motors, the 1.5 litre ICE is there as a motor generator to recharge the battery when it depletes.

[@waterloo123100]

@@alsheremetaIt’s a Chinese casted engine. They’re not known for their quality like American and Japanese engines. 5000 ILB is a lot of load even for a hybrid. There’s a reason you don’t see hybrid trucks towing. The cost to repair that is going to Total out that BYD pretty quick.

[@ZPdrumer]

@@waterloo123100 the gasoline engine is only a generator. It is not mechanically linked to the wheels. All the towing/motive force comes from the electric motors and the battery. The good thing about the generator approach is the engine could theoretically run at one set RPM value for maximum efficiency and never change. Maybe the engine isn't rated for high torque loads, or does poorly across a range of RPMs, but none of those are concerns in this case. The gas motor doesn't care how fast your accelerating, if your going up hill, or how heavy you tow. It only charges the battery at a set rate. Then the electric motors take energy from the battery at a variable rate.

Honestly one of the most important videos in automotor KZbin right now. Great job guys.

[@jerrycarter1928]

If I gave up my ICE F150, I would want the BYD truck. The others are expensive toys with somewhat limited truck abilities. I agree the Rivian is the better-looking truck; but that is not enough to sway me to buy it. I know the BYD has a limited towing capability, but I would be interested in a tow test to see what it could do when running on the ICE powering a generator powering the batteries/electric motors. If it could realistically tow 5,000 lbs., then this would be the perfect midsize pickup. For the most part it runs on its batteries with a good useful battery range as a light duty truck. When you need to do real truck duties and/or need extended range, the ICE gets you there. Very impressive design and build.

[@stillinthestream]

I would buy a BYD if I could, because it is good, if not great, and HALF the price. I like the concept of a gas generator, less moving parts to wear out. I would run it electric most of the time anyway.

[@reicherk]

Having the gas motor means 10X moving parts and much more frequent maintenance compared to a pure battery electric vehicle. The gas motor will likely wear out and fail long before the battery and electric motor.

[@stillinthestream]

@@reicherk Agreed, unfortunately there are no affordable electric trucks in North America, nor will there be for some time. This is a better option than gas engines that are tied into the drive train. And, if I am running electric most of the time, the gas engine will not wear out for a LONG time.

[@hondajacka2]

520 miles range is very usable and not super annoying for those who don't have a house. For 47k and if this is reliable, this would be very popular.

[@Ricer-b4n]

You'll find out in 30yrs if they able to prove themselves. Will byd be out of business by then? You will be paying alot of money to be their genie pig.

[@TheAefril]

@@Ricer-b4n How could BYD posibly go out of business? They have the Chinese domestic market growing at an extreme rate as their average consumer income is increasing, they also have bus/coach exports to all over the world, they also have an in-house battery division which also sells to other EV manufacturers. I think BYD will be around much longer than the established legacy automakers in the US.

[@ImantsIMSmusic]

Byd sells more than both of them combined

[@Ricer-b4n]

@ImantsIMSmusic Byds hybrid vehicles are counted. Learn your facts. If you count EVs only, Tesla destroys BYD in it's home country. Pretty pathetic.

[@Ricer-b4n]

@ImantsIMSmusic Byds hybrids are also counted. Learn the facts.

[@michaeljennings6647]

Even though he is calling this a hybrid truck, it isn't because the gas engine doesn't propell the truck, only recharge the battery. Like how a diesel locomotive works. There's two new that's suppose to hit the U.S market in a few years called the International Scout that offers something similar as an option.

[@onetwothreefour-s1n]

Those look really cool

[@jcmolette1613]

Just so you know, Scout was bought from International (Harvester) by the Volkswagen Group...

[@rafaeldelgado5593]

I have a JAC T9 4x4 truck with all the equipment you can ask for, great truck and it is half the price of a Colorado ZR2; too bad you are not getting new gen chineese cars, they are killing It here in México. Before you start bashing chineese brands, keep in mind that Chevrolet, Ford, Dodge best sellers here are chineese cars as well.

[@glennO-e9r]

JAC has just been released in Australia.

[@rafaeldelgado5593]

@@glennO-e9r the bang For your buck Is un matched, if you are looking For a ute, check out the T9 , you Will be pleased.

[@bupekaonga]

1:46 the engine can actually drive the wheels directly. There's a clutch that engages during certain conditions when it's more efficient to use the engine, like in highway driving for example

[@sferris33]

Glad to see the BYD Shark has come to the U.S.! American consumers shouldn’t be limited because of stupid politicians!

[@Nerkumsized]

And politicians shouldnt be limited by greedy elites 😂

[@simonpaine2347]

Build quality comments sum up the state of US car manufacturing. Tesla "OK" Rivian "pretty good" BYD "Exceptional"

[@DaleWilly]

BYD is the biggest pile of junk you can get

[@Mandom007]

​​​@@DaleWilly next level hating lol. Get some therapy

[@menglongzhao4370]

@@DaleWilly go to learn how the car market is like in China, it will blow your mind

[@RarefiedError]

@@DaleWilly probably, I think serpentza has exposed china EV's alot

[@Matthew-zl8kr]

If that were true, they wouldn't have been able to become the world's largest seller of EV's. They sell well and have a good reputation for good reason.

[@roguea987]

I honestly expected this drive train setup to be on the Ford Maverick. When it came out as a traditional hybrid, I was disappointed. My father said back in the early 90s, "I don't know why we don't make cars like diesel locomotives. With an engine to generate electricity and have electric motors to drive the wheels." Being young, that statement always stuck with me. It is shocking, that this still isn't the norm for hybrids now.

[@remix-yy1hs]

I think deasel need to get hot, and the battery dont like too much heat, thats why they use gas, and the Chinese think deasel is too old days. They remeber the old days with bad air quality. They even bamned higher than 2.5 i think dont quote me on it.

[@TheDarinseng]

There is no technical reason it can't be done. The hold back has been technology and cost. Electric motors being used in recent years are far more efficient and cost effective enough now to be considered along with the electronics to control them. The drawback still remains is that a mobile fuel based engine is no where near as efficient as a stationary grid capable generator from both output and cleanliness. Having a engine small enough to fit in a vehicle that has to operate under all types of weather conditions, yet be durable enough to take the shocks from road/off road conditions and an exhaust system small and light enough to be emissions friendly has its drawbacks and limits. The same fuel source is capable of producing much more electricity from a large stationary generator that can be then stored in a battery for usage. The ICE vehicle engine is pretty close to its limits for efficiency. Battery tech has huge potential for improvements thus can advance not only vehicle propulsion into the future (the market driver for the tech) but just about every single electronic device will benefit as well from those advancements.

[@妮姆芙-o3z]

BYD's latest technology is very fuel-efficient, which may make oil sales companies unhappy

[@jpg0927]

The Chevy Volt was a linear hybrid - an engineering marvel. GM canceled it shortly after our lease expired. A good experience with the hybrid made it clear that a battery electric is preferable

[@raymonddon8875]

BYD hard as a rock, & on top by far!

[@BeYonD-EV]

Hey guys! Excellent review! A few details about the Shark: - That front bias you feel is because the front motor is 170kw while the rear is 150kw - The motor will only charge the battery when it's below 70%. With the way batteries recharge, charge speed slows down between 70-100. The engine won't be able to put enough charge in the battery in that SOC range so it just doesn't. - That plug ports are 3kw max out, but the V2L adaptor from the charge port COULD provide 6kw. It's not confirmed for the Shark but that is because this DMO platform can output on other vehicles - The Shark is very much modelled off a Ford Ranger. So much so that Ford Ranger accessories will fit onto the Shark (roll bars and tonneau covers) Looking forward to more videos on it!

[@silverstarflite135]

I have a 2012 Chevy Volt. 12 years old! Same technology. Geez. GM should had put this tech in ALL of their vehicles.

[@remix-yy1hs]

It's not the same. Why are Americans keep saying that. Go look it up. On their youtube channel.

[@TFLEV]

We are still waiting.

[@silverstarflite135]

@@remix-yy1hs Perhaps not the same tech, but the same concept. Battery power for x miles then gas generator. Perfect. Love my Volt!

[@doomsday9973]

Because sales were crap

[@Icayn]

@@remix-yy1hsit’s exactly the same, the volt ICE acted as a generator that charged the battery which powered the electric drive unit.

[@deansmits006]

Rhe nice thing about BYDs system is thst its an EV at its base, generator added in. Instead of the other way around with many hybrids. This allows more advancements on the EV powertain portion and a great platform to have wgen they transition to full EV when the battery and electronics technology gets there to allow 400+ miles without a massive pack

[@USUG0]

BYD's "amazing" technology is how all plugin hybrids should have been built already 10-15 years ago

[@clasqm]

My BMW i3 REX works on that exact principle, actually.

[@chuzhewang4813]

However BYD DMO's technology is not the same as volts. the DMO's engine is direct drive to the front wheels at higher speeds. And the thermal efficiency is 46%, both of which are the reason why the DMO's fuel consumption can reach 7.5L/100km. Also, the SHARK's engine is longitudinally mounted, so it has better suspension space.

[@USUG0]

@@clasqm it's only problem is that the engine is underdimensioned, so it has to work at its highest most inefficient revs to travel at motorway speeds

[@DaleWilly]

There is nothing amazing about these junkers

[@lovemyfiero]

Chevy volt has been doing that since 2011

[@EnriqueMtzPromo]

At around $50k that BYD pick-up does sound better than the other electric truck options if were to come to the USA.

[@xiangzhou3882]

BYD Shark seems really promising! The plug-in hybrid feature is a great plus. I'm curious to see how it stacks up against the American rivals. The distinctive design and the bed with useful features like the 3KW, 110-volt power supply are impressive. Can't wait to see more of it on the roads.

[@luting3]

The difference is: Rivian cost to build over 100K but sold for 70K. BYD cost less than 15K to build and sold for 40K.

[@deahelkcunklaer2180]

You'll never know the cost of the BYD as it's financed by the Peoples Republic of China and that government lies about everything

[@everbeever]

How sad is that the 100k build quality is worse than the 15k build quality?

[@jbwshox]

So made in US is even more pathetic😂😂

[@jlv3x]

​@@everbeever but didn't they just say that Rivian had the best build quality of the three trucks? They said they were surprised at the build quality of BYD compared to other Chinese built vehicles.

[@louiepierce1692]

So the Chinese have taken Chevy volt ideas/technology and applied it to a pickup truck.

[@Longsnowsm]

This is the direction that the domestic truck will likely have to go. Ford is hinting at it. I was expecting the Maverick to come out as PHEV. Not sure why they are dragging their feet on that. This is a good size truck that BYD has here. Not sure it is my cup of tea, but I certainly think this is a good start. Would love to see payload, and towing capabilities improved. We know Ram has something coming in the full size class. Announcements are coming in daily with the Chinese making new car announcements and they are not following Tesla anymore. Things are moving much faster there than they are here. Maybe a trip to China would be worth it? I think BYD is listening and will take your criticism to heart and make changes. Would love to see it.

[@moonjelly84]

The 2025 Maverick will finally have AWD available for hybrid, and 4k tow rating as well. A PHEV Mav prototype was spotted in early 2023, but still not on the market. And all the while the base price went up $10k in 4 model years. I had such high hopes for the Mav bringing an innovative truck market to the US 😢

[@Longsnowsm]

@@moonjelly84 Ford was leading here and now it looks like they are squandering that lead. They had better be getting a PHEV with working capabilities out in the market place and at a price people can afford or BYD will be building that plant in Mexico sooner than they think. It is rather embarrassing at this point. BYD and the Chinese are coming. They will find a way around the barriers we put up to keep them out. This truck should be a wake up call.

[@dontstealth]

BYD is good quality cars. Im used BYD S6 2013 to 2023 and i can say. I trust BYD.

[@williamclark6466]

This is probably not the kind of a comment that you expected to read here, but I'd like to advise everybody, including Andre, to please wear their shoulder belt over their shoulder, so that it doesn't separate their spleen in a collision.❤

[@who2u333]

Cool to see a production Chinese vehicle in the US. It really was basically exactly what I was expecting.

[@Xtraq100vet]

Amazing BYD Truck! I hired a Chinese SUV an MG HS while overseas and was shocked how good the quality was it wasn’t that far off the quality of an Audi Q5, do more reviews in the USA, as a current midsize truck owner of the new Ford Ranger and prior owner of the older Chevy Colorado, I would seriously consider this truck if it was sold in the USA, a lot better than the Tesla and Rivian joke of a truck at double the price!!!!

[@frankrider6192]

I saw a clip of this truck literally floating in a lake with full load of passengers. The front end was almost submerged but it was advancing forward until it reached the bank and drive out. Not sure how real it was but that was damn impressive.

[@vervetech9395]

It was a BYD SUV called Yangwang U8. It's much expensive than this truck

[@LaowaiDaveJCP]

It's not this one

[@remix-yy1hs]

That's byd u8❤❤❤ my dream car. It has a drone too

[@andrewsackey5728]

It's 100% real... It can even turn 360 degrees at the same position

[@مرواریدمشرقزمین]

Yes, he is a real presence of Yangwang U8

[@chmeeeschannel8355]

BYD does manufacture fully electric busses in California.

[@DaleWilly]

No they don't

[@chmeeeschannel8355]

@@DaleWilly ok, assembles them in Lancaster, CA. I ride the busses all the time in Anaheim.

[@kamsunleong6648]

​@@DaleWilly Yes they do. Since 2013. You are slow

[@xuray6082]

Yeah, BYD US made buses and trucks since 2014

[@luisbarraza9709]

This is the most clutch viewer in TFL history lol. Provided all 3 test trucks essentially 🔥

[@238haden]

price difference is crazy but i really really like the look both inside and outside of the shark. still feels like a truck and not a golf cart. and that plane inspired center console is so freaking cool. for 50k id go pick one up tomorrow

[@hmmmzmmm7782]

这个车在美国没有贩售啊

[@Afeeq1011]

the BYD is what I want from a modern hybrid car, a BEV with a Genset.

[@jeffevey5763]

hats off to you guys - this is a super cool comparison that I have been very curious about.

[@KC-vx7gj]

The fact that US gov puts a 100% tariff on it says it all. It has a huge cost competitiveness, solid quality and excellent tech and features. If it's really crappy then nobody would buy it anyway, so no need for tarriff. If it has safety or security issues then the government could straight ban it. Instead, it has 100% tariff.

[@AnythingUnderTheMoon]

You know why it’s on 100% tariff right? Lol

[@christover1]

In Australia we do not have all 3 of these yet. The first here will probably do very well. Looks like BYD Shark will be here first, they are testing on our roads already. Cybertruk and Rivian have no RHD yet anyway.

[@Mandom007]

And now we know why 100% tarrifs lol. But keep in mind that Lotus & volvo which are saling there cars in US are owned by geekly which is also chinese

[@seanchang4442]

Guess BYD is a direct threat to the US auto industries

[@snake08081991]

Friendship doesn't have barriers. We in Mexico do things different for pickup trucks, and this BYD Shark is quite perfect for us as we don't do much of towing or off road, but we do need a pickup for moving stuff. I own a BYD Seal AWD, which is the direct competitor of the Tesla Model 3 and I'm very happy with my car.

[@chaosnix]

I believe Chinese companies excel at producing products that score 85/100 in quality, but at only half the price.

[@tonycanton5611]

That was in the past, but it is no longer the case. They are getting better and better at high-value products, such as DJI drones, and more and more high-quality products are appearing.

[@DavidGamersChannel]

@tonycanton5611 There are cheaper but better Chinese phones than Samsung.

[@azzamatic4190]

American here. Anyone in Mexico wanna swap a Cybertruck for your BYD Shark? Please hit me up in the comment section

[@Rubicon365]

I am lucky that i don't live in the US.. i have the freedom to express my desire and buy a Chinese EV

[@rtcturnemup7028]

Congratulations 😂 not all of us want a ev

[@Telexic]

Sweet you have the freedom to support slavery and inhumane working conditions 👍, congrats!

[@historiapoliticabellum6265]

Me too

[@historiapoliticabellum6265]

Me too. Luckily

[@jeffreymckie3328]

And support China’s disregard for the borders of its neighbors

[@williamclark6466]

I love this truck comparison video. Thank you for finding a way to include the BYD shark.

[@yorkchris10]

BYD could be Mexico's new V-dub for twenty years.

[@davidmenasco5743]

BYD and some other Chinese brands are about to gobble up massive amounts of global market share from VW, Toyota and others like Suzuki who sell cars and pick-ups in smaller markets and developing markets. All of these legacy OEMs will start closing factories and shrinking soon.

[@Mazimo]

The Shark is not technically a hybrid, it's an ERV (extended range vehicle). The difference is that in an ERV, the ice engine only provides power to the battery and not to the drive shaft/wheels (as you mentioned). This is why when you turned on hybrid mode you still didn't hear the engine because they're still power in the battery. Plenty of manufacturers are looking at ervs since you get some of the efficiency benefits of an EV (producing power via gas for the batteries is more efficient than using gas to move the car) with some of the benefits of being able to fill up with gas.

[@Mano-z7t]

Now I know why US car makers are freaked out from Chinese cars. China now is building good quality cars .

[@karlInSanDiego]

I love sand land, muddy land, and snow field. That would make a great BYD Shark T-shirt. If you know, you know.

[@jamesrobert4106]

😂😂😂 They have never mastered translation.

[@TheR8drfan]

GM, Ford, Ram, Toyota, or Hyundai/KIA: A mid size truck with 8k towing and a 30 amp connector would sell. People charge at home in their garage. Electric efficiency around home, no range anxiety with towing.

[@koocie2008]

please try the BYD Tang, Yanguan U8 and U9, i hope it blow our minds

[@Alfred-li0421]

yangwang maybe, tang might be difficult since there aren't any in America 😂

[@XxTournaquetxX]

Holy crap I was expecting the BYD to be $60,000. If those sold in the US, it would dominate.

[@CipherAjibola-ws2tp]

I think you you try to get your hands on the Yangwang U8 and experience the full power of BYD

[@demljd]

Great to see the BYD shark here! The cybertruck is a different buyer type, and should be substituted for a Chevy Colorado, /Ford Ranger, or Ford Lightning in this compare. I understand the tariffs to some point. Too bad we can’t have the Toyota Hilux, and too bad we can’t have the BYD shark. I hope USA eventually gets the 2025 Ford Ranger PHEV that is going to international markets. I want to see the BYD shark on the IKE test!

[@johnjiang3873]

The price for BYD is a steal compared to any other trucks. I would definitely buy one if they sell in the U.S.

[@planetcountryradio8622]

About to launch in Australia and the legacy automakers should be worried. Interestingly, the top 2 vehicles sold in Australia for the past few years have been the Ford Ranger and Toyota Hilux (both similar size to the BYD Shark). KIA are also launching the Tasman, which has taken what seems like a decade to finally launch and despite the Australian name, will struggle against the Ford, Toyota and new BYD Shark. Australia has the most competitive auto market in the world, with over 50 brands sold here and about another 10 Chinese brands about to launch.

[@paulb1951]

Most competitive market 😂, do you really believe that 😂. It’s a tiny market with a very limited range. China is the most competitive market by a long long way.

[@planetcountryradio8622]

@paulb1951 Australia is the most competitive market per capita and per total sales volume. 50+ brands competing for only 1 Million sales a year. That is tough competition.

[@paulb1951]

@ 🥱 yeah sure it is…

[@randallgibson4598]

Ive been saying for YEARS that electric vehicles (non hybrid) need SMALLER batteries and their own built-in generators and here they come with that exact innovation ...

[@dzerres]

it's not innovation. GM did that with the Volt. It's old news.

[@TheDarinseng]

On paper it sounds good but in reality if your a short distance person where they generator does not kick on often then you would be better off with just an full on EV and not be carrying around the weight of an engine and fuel tank. Likewise, if you find yourself constantly engaging the generator then the opposite applies. Hybrids of all types just have more "stuff" to maintain or fail. The flexibility seems good at first glance but it comes at a cost of efficiency and long term maintenance costs.

[@ChrisH421]

​@@dzerrescorrect also you could get a bmw i3 with a range extender as well.

[@OlJackBurton]

@@TheDarinseng a full EV is even heavier than a plug-in hybrid...

[@abcJ-q4v]

I don't understand why it can't generate and charge the battery while vehical is moving, no need to plugin no need to fuel up.

[@F_e_l]

The BYD setup makes a lot of sense as a stop gap until charging network is as widely avaiable as gas counterpart.

[@corresandberg]

Hybrid was popular here in Europe some years back. Then came articles about higher consumption for both petrol and batteries. One is dragging the another along. So it will mostly be gone any year now here in Europe. They exists but sells less and less.

[@dzonikg]

This is not conventional hybrid, Hybrids in europe are mild hybrid with tiny battery and conventional transmition .THis is always power by electric and engine just add range

[@MichaelSmith-px1ev]

When you live outside of the US the only option you have is BYD.

[@JOFEGUBA]

What do you mean? Theres Tesla and almost every brand here in Mexico

[@davidmenasco5743]

​@@JOFEGUBAAre they selling Cybertrucks in Mexico?

[@lecm007]

@@davidmenasco5743 yes

[@stockey]

Putting tarrifs, because you can't compete, is blatantly stupid.

[@LaBambaCL]

27:36 BYD Shark fully loaded price in mexico 47k usd (shock faces) half the price of the others, more range, well made.

[@NP-ek7dl]

We need competition in USA truck market… not 100K luxury mall crawlers

[@NP-ek7dl]

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[@urbanstrencan]

What BYD is doing is just amazing, this Shark pick-up will put Ford, Toyota and Chevy to run for their money 🤑🤑

[@krestovozdvizhenskiy]

This is a gasoline powered car, it doesn't need charging stations. It charges itself in the move. If you drain battery dry hitting throttle hard and all the time , but it will keep moving on those generator 150 hp alone while trying to charge the battery. And don't forget the fuel consumption will be as low as Toyota Yaris.

[@andrewvercillo7584]

If it had a bigger battery it would be so much better. And we don’t want the complications of the engine. Just build up our charging network and full bev will be so much better

[@tonys9413]

Until you build that infrastructure, for a working truck this is optimal solution.

[@chriswilson7138]

Full electric pickups are great for anyone who does not tow, however those that need to tow would love to have more efficient options than ice only (also they have better torque and can take advantage of regen) . The Ramcharger design seems to be that happy medium to deliver power for longer ranges when towing but also have the advantage of a good daily commute distance on battery power only. Trucks should move to full electric drivetrains that have an optional range extender option. Personally, this design would be great. I tow a behemoth RV style trailer (8.5k pounds) 3-4 times a year but the rest of the year i just drive a V8 around a city to run errands, which is a waste of efficiency when compared to a BEV. The reality is that a vast majority of truck owners have a truck for a hobby or reason but do need it’s capabilities day-to-day. I am one of those people. If it wasnt for the RV, my daily driver would be something smaller and efficient. A BEV towing more than 100ish miles is also not practical. Towing my RV from Texas to Colorado with a BEV truck is not practical (time or number of stops). A gas range extender helps out a ton in this scenario. Until battery tech gets much better, gas or diesel still wins the energy density and weight war.

[@chuzhewang4813]

​@@chriswilson7138 I totally agree your point of view. In fact I use BYD PHEV Tang SUV towing Fendt caravan in China. The dmi powertrain is similar to DMO of SHARK(same engine but horizontal, 21kwh battery) . The BEV mode at towing will consume 35 kWH per 100 km, comparing to PHEV mode 11L/100km. No charge infrastration will fit for such a higher electricity cosumption. Though every 50km there are fast chargers in Service area of the highway, it's inconvinient to disconnected.

[@YSKWatch]

EREV is a trend now for chinese manufacturers because not every location in the world have adequate charging infrastructure. the battery should be enough for daily commute, if more range needed, the generator kicks in.

[@texassabre7214]

Well one thing: BYD’s quality is much better than the other two.

[@IanFong-mt4yp]

If you're impressed with this, go to Y.T car reviewers from Austalia,Europe,S.E Asia,etc. and check all the other different vehicles they can buy. I think if U.S car reviewers went to any Chinese auto show, they would have a multi orgasm experience. By the way this BYD Shark is by no means the best from China.

[@Peizxcv]

Rivian is for paved road just looking at the tires and design. Cybertruck I have no idea with the design and tires. BYD is for developing countries in Latin America, Southeast Asia, and Middle East & North Africa where people like car / truck / SUV with stronger springs and more lift at the back. I am not sure why but it's probably because they like to overload their trucks and actually use the bed for cargo

[@josephkimamo8137]

What a seamless team you guys make!